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Conference 7.286::sports_90

Title:OURGNG::SPORTS - Digital's daily tabloid
Notice:Please review note 1.83 before writing anything.
Moderator:VAXWRK::NEEDLE
Created:Thu Dec 14 1989
Last Modified:Fri Dec 17 1993
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:438
Total number of notes:50420

74.0. "Miscellaneous Questions" by AIMHI::DONNELLY (most illegible bachelor in town) Tue Dec 19 1989 14:16

    
    Didn't see an appropriate note for this so, DIY, I figure.  Mr Mod, if 
    it's aproblem, please move or delete...
    
    I need to know who uttered the following quote.  If I've mis-posted it
    here, please correct me.  Thanks... glen
    
    
    "Catching a fly ball is a pleasure.  Knowing what to do with it
    afterwards - that's a business."
    
        
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74.1HAZEL::LEFEBVRERepossess a YuppieTue Dec 19 1989 15:093
    Bo?
    
    Mark.
74.2better not be scumbelcherLEVERS::STROUTa pound of obscureTue Dec 19 1989 15:150
74.3Zsa Zsa?COOKIE::MJOHNSTONIuseTactHammersButaSledge'sMoFunTue Dec 19 1989 15:470
74.4< Proposition 48? >KAOA01::MAWANIWed Dec 20 1989 09:349
    
    
    	Can anyone explain the exact terms of Proposition 48 and how
    it applies to recruiting(sp?) college athletes.
    
    
    Thanks,
    	
    	Aly
74.5USRCV1::COLOTTIRPiece of MindThu Dec 21 1989 14:489
    Not exact, but close:
    	A high school senior must have a CUMULATIVE 2.0 GPA.
    Also, must get 700 on the SAT or 15 on the ACT(Ithink).
    I believe there is an attendance requirement, maybe 80%.
    So, as you can see, its not to hard to be eligible as a freshman
    unless you totally blew off high school. HTH.
                 	    Raider_Rich 
    
    
74.6EXIT26::CREWSWhat we have here is failure to communicateThu Dec 21 1989 15:176
    I've got a case of Iron City bet with a co-worker/forklift operator ...
    
    What NFL team leads the decade in total yardage penalties ... I say
    it's the faiders ... he says its the DONKS ...
    
    -- JB
74.7LEVERS::STROUTa pound of obscureThu Dec 21 1989 15:202
    ooh, i'd have to say the maids or the spoilers.  definitely not
    the roncho's.
74.9must of seen this comingCNTROL::CHILDSNoregia 2 Bush Zip, Nada...Thu Dec 21 1989 16:438
    
    The Donks hahahahaaa  JB you're making a funny right? Now if the
    bet was on who has received the most free yardage due the other team's
    errors, then it would clearly be the DONKEYS........
    
    many smiles
    
    mike
74.10RUTLND::BERTOLINOThu Dec 21 1989 17:517
    Does anybody know what the NFL record is for sacks in a game. I seem to
    recall a Monday night game when Cedric Hardman of the 49'rs had something
    like 12 or so, but I am told that is way too much. Could some one who
    has a stat book settle this for me.
    
                                                    Thanks in advance
                                                    Stan
74.11Lookit up in Mother Goose39131::DHAMELI saw Noriega in K-martThu Dec 21 1989 18:009
    
    There once was a man from St. Ives with seven wives and each of
    them had seven sacks.
    
    Can't remember what year, though.
    
    Hope this helps.
    
    -Dick
74.12RUTLND::BERTOLINOThu Dec 21 1989 18:125
    re -1
    
    Dick thanks. That clears everything up...  I think  :-)
    
                                         Stan
74.13And "Jaws" is on his a$$ again !!QUASER::HUNTERJack's Diner, No Brains, No ServiceThu Dec 21 1989 18:123
    Had to be against the Phily Beagles !!
    
    Big Game
74.14JULIET::MAY_BRIt's a Jingle out thereThu Dec 21 1989 18:217
    
    I had sacks twelve times one night.
                                 
                                
    sacks of potatos.  I worked at a grocery store and carried twelve
    sacks out to a ladies car one night.  what did you guys think I
    meant?
74.15DASXPS::TIMMONSI'm a Pepere!Fri Dec 22 1989 09:139
    JB, based on the history of this notefile, the Raiders must be the
    most penalized.  Point 1), Hoot says they are picked on, Point 2)
    everyone else says they are a dirty team.  Sooo, it must be them.

    It couldn't be the Donks, because, as ALL true NFL fans know, the
    ref only call about 10% of the Donk infractions at home, and 10.03%
    on the road.  :*)
    
    Lee
74.16PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFT!!!GENRAL::WADEGive Panama a U.S. Zip Code!Fri Dec 22 1989 12:181
    
74.17FSHQA2::JHENDRYJohn Hendry, DTN 292-2170Tue Dec 26 1989 17:3516
    Tommy Henrich, former NY Yankee great, is the one who came up with
    the quote.
    
    I'll be able to post the penalty yards once the NFL mails me the
    season ending stats.  I'll be able to look up the sack record tonight.
    Sacks have only been an official stat since either the late seventies
    or early eighties.
    
    A student who does not qualify under Prop 48 may attend a junior
    college for one or two years.  If s/he goes to the college s/he
    wants to go to, s/he cannot practice with the team during that year,
    s/he cannot receive a scholarship during that year, s/he loses a
    year of eligibility and s/he must qualify academically after the
    freshman year in order to play.  Exhibit - Rumeal Robinson.
    
    John
74.18Sacks and PenaltiesFSHQA1::JHENDRYJohn Hendry, DTN 292-2170Wed Dec 27 1989 11:1756
    Individual sacks have only been kept since 1982, and these records are
    through 1988:
    
    Most in career	Lawrence Taylor 89
    			Dexter Manley	82
    			Jacob Green	76
         
    Most in Season	Gastineau, 1984	22
    			R. White,  1987	21
    			Taylor,    1986	20.5
    
    Most in Game	Fred Dean, SF, 11/13/85 vs NO	6
    			Wm Gay, Det, 9/4/83 vs TB	5.5
    			5 by 5 people:
    
    			Howie Long, Rai vs Wash, 10/2/83
    			Randy Holloway, Min vs Atl, 9/16/84
    			Jim Jeffcoat, Dal vs Wash, 11/10/85
    			Leslie ONeal, SD vs Dal, 11/16/86
    			Gary Jeter, Rams vs Raiders, 9/18/88
    
    Team Records:
    
    Most in Season:	Philly 1986, 104
    			Philly 1987,  72
    			Atlanta, 1968, 70
    
    Fewest in Season:	Miami, 1988	7
    			SF, 1970	8
    			St Louis, 1975	8
    			Jets, 1966	9
    
    Most in game:	Pitt vs Dallas, 11/20/66	12
    			Balt vs St Louis, 10/26/80	12
    			Det vs Chicago, 12/16/84	12
    			Hou vs Dallas, 9/29/85		12
    
    11 sacks in a game has happened many times.
    
    And some penalty records:
    
    Miami has had 11 seasons where they've had the fewest penalties
    and had 9 of those consecutively.  The Bears have had 16 seasons
    where they've led the league.  Detroit holds the record for fewest
    penalties in a season, 19 in 1937.  The 1983 Bills had 144 penalties,
    1984 Raiders had 143 and the 1988 Cowboys had 141.  The Brooklyn
    Dodgers in 1944 (yes, they did exist), the Bears in 1944 hold the
    record for most penalties in a game with 22.  0 penalties on both
    teams has only happened 4 times and not since 1940.  Cleveland vs
    Chicago, 11/25/51, had the most combined fouls in a game, 37, for
    374 yards, also a record.  Cleveland was socked for 21 flags and
    209 yards in that game.  The record for most yards in a season belongs
    to the 1969 Raiders with 1274, and fewest goes to the 1937 Lions,
    139 yards.
    
    John
74.19My memory aint was it wasRUTLND::BERTOLINOWed Dec 27 1989 11:585
    John
    
        Thanks for the stats.
    
                                     Stan
74.20IMOBUILD::MORGANWed Dec 27 1989 13:056
    After watching Monday night's game, you have to wonder about this sack
    business.  Doleman "sacks" Boomer while he's in the motion of throwing. 
    That was quite a joke.  So this "in the grasp" rule has tainted the
    sack totals since the rule has been implemented.
    
    					Steve
74.21EGYPT::CRITZGreg LeMond wins: 2nd TdF, 2nd WorldsWed Dec 27 1989 16:546
    	Yeah. Pretty soon we'll see a rule where the play is dead
    	when a defender is withing x yards of the quarterback.
    
    	Give me a break. That call was bogus.
    
    	Scott
74.22"Sacks" Not Always What They Seem To BeSHALOT::HUNTFrom the young man in the 22nd row ...Wed Dec 27 1989 22:3016
    And to add further doubts to the "sack" totals, recall that a defensive
    team receives credit for a sack if it merely chases the quarterback out
    of bounds for a loss.
    
    Granted it's a loss of yardage but there have been numerous occasions
    where Randall Cunningham has escaped *big* sack losses and instead has
    been chased out of bounds within inches of the original line of
    scrimmage.  Nevertheless, the defender nearest him gets a sack.
    
    Also, earlier this year against the Vikings, Randall Cunningham was
    killing the last few seconds off the clock in the Eagles 10-9 win.  He
    took the snap, backpedaled a few yards to burn a few more seconds and
    then took a soft hit from a lineman.  The Vikes got two sacks that way
    although the league office did rescind them later that week.
    
    Bob Hunt
74.23FSHQA1::JHENDRYJohn Hendry, DTN 292-2170Thu Dec 28 1989 12:0521
    And not only that, but if the QB is back to pass and is getting
    pressured and gets back to the original line of scrimmage, it's
    a sack for 0 yards.
    
    There is also something called a team sack.  In the Patriots game
    vs Pittsburgh a couple of weeks ago, Roland James was pressuring
    Bubby Brister and ran Bubby into referee Tom Dooley.  Bubby fumbled
    and James recovered.  That's a sack but it's not credited to anyone
    even though Roland recovered.  Last year in the game against us,
    Dave Krieg dropped the ball while scrambling without being touched.
    It was also ruled a team sack.
    
    If the QB is back in shotgun formation and bobbles the snap and
    never has possession however, that's not a sack.  It's called an
    aborted play.  Any play where a snap is fumbled, a handoff is botched
    or a lateral is missed that loses yardage is called an aborted play.
    The QB gets a rush for no yards, in most cases the QB gets a fumble
    (the exception is when the center snaps the ball over the QBs head),
    and any yardage lost is credited to fumble yardage.
    
    John
74.24FSHQA2::JHENDRYJohn Hendry, DTN 292-2170Tue Jan 02 1990 12:0135
    Someone asked in an earlier note about NFL team penalties:
    
    By Penalties			By Yards
    
    Houston	148			Houston		1138
    Raiders	132			Raiders		1105
    Cleveland	128			Pittsburgh	 986
    San Diego	122			Detroit		 977
    Detroit	121			Minnesota	 974
    Minnesota	119			Cleveland	 973
    Pittsburgh	116			Jets		 957
    Jets	116			Eagles		 938
    Chiefs	115			Niners		 922
    Eagles	114			San Diego	 906
    Phoenix	113			Redskins	 881
    Niners	110			Bucs		 881
    Redskins	105			Chiefs		 863
    Bucs	104			Phoenix		 856
    Buffalo	103			Chicago		 846
    League Ave	102.9			Buffalo		 831
    Rams	102			League Ave	 825.3
    Dallas	 99			Rams		 823
    Chicago	 95			Dallas		 766
    Saints	 90			Seattle		 738
    Colts	 89			Colts		 704
    Bengals	 85			Saints		 676
    Denver	 83			Giants		 675
    Miami	 83			Atlanta		 671
    Giants	 83			Green Bay	 666
    Atlanta	 82			Bengals		 637
    Green Bay	 81			Miami		 614
    Seattle	 79			Denver		 594
    Patriots	 63			Patriots	 509
    
    John
74.25What a team!!!SALEM::RIEUWe're Taxachusetts...AGAINTue Jan 02 1990 13:052
       Pats are #1!!!
                                     denny
74.26FSHQA2::JHENDRYJohn Hendry, DTN 292-2170Tue Jan 02 1990 19:5716
    Someone asked elsewhere about the series between Buffalo and Cleveland.
    The Browns lead it 7-2 and the teams have never met in the playoffs:
    
    1972	at Cleveland 27		Buffalo 10
    1974	Buffalo 15		at Cleveland 10
    1977	Cleveland 27		at Buffalo 16
    1978	at Cleveland 41		Buffalo 20
    1981	at Buffalo 22		Cleveland 13
    1984	Cleveland 13		at Buffalo 10
    1985	at Cleveland 17		Buffalo 7
    1986	Cleveland 21		at Buffalo 17
    1987	at Cleveland 27		Buffalo 21
    
    Points:  Cleveland 196, Buffalo 138
    
    John
74.27NBA helpJURAN::MCKAYWed Jan 03 1990 00:077
    Would someone point me to a conference, magazine or newsletter that
    would have the complete NBA schedule and/or the scores this year
    so far.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Jimbo
74.28Here's the complete schedule. Don't have the scores handy.VAXWRK::NEEDLEMoney talks. Mine says &quot;Good-Bye.&quot;Wed Jan 03 1990 02:201458
1989-90 NBA SCHEDULE, DAY-BY-DAY

FRIDAY, NOV. 3
Milwaukee at Boston
Washington at Charlotte
New Jersey at Miami
Indiana at Atlanta
New York at Detroit
Cleveland at Chicago
L.A. Lakers at Dallas
Denver at Utah
Golden State at Phoenix
Houston at L.A. Clippers
Sacramento at Portland
Minnesota at Seattle

SATURDAY, NOV. 4
Miami at New York
Milwaukee at Philadelphia
Detroit at Washington
New Jersey at Orlando
Cleveland at Indiana
Boston at Chicago
L.A. Lakers at San Antonio
Phoenix at Denver
Houston at Golden State
Seattle at Sacramento

SUNDAY, NOV. 5
Minnesota at Portland

MONDAY, NOV. 6
New York at Orlando

TUESDAY, NOV. 7
Miami at New Jersey
Washington at Atlanta
Detroit at Chicago
Boston at Milwaukee
Portland at Houston
Phoenix at L.A. Lakers
L.A. Clippers at Golden State
Dallas at Sacramento
Charlotte at Seattle

WEDNESDAY, NOV. 8
Miamia at Philadelphia
Boston at Washington
Orlando at Cleveland
Detroit at Indiana
Chicago at Minnesota
Portland at San Antonio
Sacramento at Denver
Charlotte at Utah
Dallas at L.A. Clippers

THURSDAY, NOV. 9
New Jersey at New York
Seattle at Milwaukee
Denver at Houston
L.A. Lakers at Golden State

FRIDAY, NOV. 10
Atlanta at Boston
Chicago at New Jersey
Cleveland vs. Washington at Baltimore
Detroit at Orlando
Miamia at Indiana
Philadelphia at Minnesota
Portland at Dallas
San Antonio at Utah
Sacramento at Phoenix
Charlotte at L.A. Lakers

SATURDAY, NOV. 11
Detroit at Miami
Orlando at Atlanta
Boston at Cleveland
Seattle at Chicago
Philadelphia at Milwaukee
Utah at Houston
Denver at San Antonio
New York at L.A. Clippers
Charlotte at Golden State

SUNDAY, NOV. 12
Seattle at Minnesota
Dallas at L.A. Lakers
Washington at Portland

MONDAY, NOV. 13
Atlanta at Orlando
Washington at Utah

TUESDAY, NOV. 14
Philadelphia vs. Boston at Hartford
Cleveland at New Jersey
Orlando at Charlotte
Houston at Miami
San Antonio at Milwaukee
Golden State at Minnesota
Denver at L.A. Clippers
Chicago at Sacramento
New York at Portland
Dallas at Seattle

WEDNESDAY, NOV. 15
New Jersey at Boston
Charlotte at Philadelphia
Golden State at Cleveland
Miami at Detroit
San Antonio at Minnesota
Washington at Denver
Chicago at Utah
Portland at Phoenix
Indiana at L.A. Lakers

THURSDAY, NOV. 16
Orlando at Milwaukee
L.A. Clippers at Houston
New York at Sacramento
Washington at Seattle

FRIDAY, NOV. 17
Minnesota at Boston
San Antonio at Philadelphia
Golden State at Charlotte
Atlanta at Cleveland
Milwaukee at Detroit
L.A. Clippers at Dallas
Indiana at Utah
Denver at L.A. Lakers
Phoenix at Portland

SATURDAY, NOV. 18
Minnesota at New York
San Antonio at New Jersey
Philadelphia at Orlando
Golden State at Atlanta
Boston at Detroit
Miami at Dallas
Houston at Denver
Washington at Phoenix
Indiana at Sacramento
Chicago at Seattle

SUNDAY, NOV. 19
Miami at Houston
Washington at L.A. Lakers
Seattle at Portland

MONDAY, NOV. 20
No games scheduled

TUESDAY, NOV. 21
Houston at New York
Milwaukee at Washington
Miami at Charlotte
Atlanta at Detroit
Boston at Indiana
Utah at Minnesota
Phoenix at San Antonio
Dallas at Denver
Orlando at Sacramento
Chicago at Portland
New Jersey at Seattle

WEDNESDAY, NOV. 22
Houston at Boston
Philadelphia at Miamia
New York at Cleveland
Atlanta at Milwaukee
Denver at Minnesota
Orlando at Utah
Chicago at Phoenix
New Jersey at L.A. Clippers
Sacramento at Golden State

THURSDAY, NOV. 23
No games scheduled

FRIDAY, NOV. 24
Indiana at Boston
Washington at Philadelphia
Houston at Charlotte
Atlanta at Miami
Cleveland at Detroit
Minnesota at Dallas
Seattle at Denver
Orlando at Phoenix
San Antonio at L.A. Clippers
New Jersey at Portland

SATURDAY, NOV. 25
Milwaukee at New York
Miami at Washington
Minnesota at Charlotte
Boston at Atlanta
Houston at Cleveland
Philadelphia at Indiana
Seattle at Dallas
L.A. Lakers at Utah
Chicago at Golden State
New Jersey at Sacramento

SUNDAY, NOV. 26
San Antonio at L.A. Lakers
Chicago at L.A. Clippers
Detroit at Portland

MONDAY, NOV. 27
Charlotte at New York
Indiana at Milwaukee
New Jersey at Utah

TUESDAY, NOV. 28
Miami at Orlando
Washington at Cleveland
Atlanta at Chicago
L.A. Lakers at Houston
Seattle at San Antonio
Golden State at Denver
Detroit at Sacramento
L.A. Clippers at Portland

WEDNESDAY, NOV. 29
Boston at New Jersey
Cleveland at Philadelphia
Atlanta at Washington
Minnesota at Miami
Utah at Indiana
Charlotte at Dallas
Detroit at Phoenix
Milwaukee at L.A. Clippers
New York at Golden State

THURSDAY, NOV. 30
Minnesota at Orlando
Charlotte at Houston
Dallas at San Antonio
Milwaukee at Denver
L.A. Lakers at Sacramento
New York at Seattle

FRIDAY, DEC. 1
Cleveland at Boston
Miami at New Jersey
Philadelphia vs. Washington at Baltimore
Utah at Atlanta
Orlando at Indiana
L.A. Clippers at Phoenix
Detroit at L.A. Lakers
Golden State at Portland

SATURDAY, DEC. 2
Utah at Washington
Chicago at Miami
Philadelphia at Atlanta
Minnesota at Cleveland
Dallas at Houston
Charlotte at San Antonio
Portland at Denver
New York at Phoenix
Sacramento at L.A. Clippers
Milwaukee at Golden State
Detroit at Seattle

SUNDAY, DEC. 3
New York at L.A. Lakers

MONDAY, DEC. 4
Portland at Orlando

TUESDAY, DEC. 5
Philadelphia at New York
Boston at Charlotte
Portland at Miami
Utah at Cleveland
Denver at Chicago
New Jersey at Minnesota
Golden State at Dallas
L.A. Clippers at L.A. Lakers
Milwaukee at Sacramento
Houston at Seattle

WEDNESDAY, DEC. 6
New York at Boston
Miami at Philadelphia
Atlanta at Orlando
Washington at Detroit
Denver at Indiana
Golden State at San Antonio

THURSDAY, DEC. 7
Portland at Charlotte
Dallas at Utah
Phoenix at L.A. Lakers
Cleveland at L.A. Clippers
FRIDAY, DEC. 8
Denver at Boston
Detroit at Philadelphia
Orlando at Miami
Portland at Atlanta
 Chicago at Indiana
New Jersey at Houston
San Antonio at Dallas
Milwaukee at Phoenix
Sacramento at Golden State

SATURDAY, DEC. 9
Boston at New York
L.A. Lakers at Washington
Denver at Charlotte
Minnesota at Atlanta
Indiana at Detroit
Philadelphia at Chicago
New Jersey at San Antonio
Houston at Utah
Cleveland at Sacramento
L.A. Clippers at Seattle

SUNDAY, DEC. 10
L.A. Lakers at Orlando
Portland at Milwaukee

MONDAY, DEC. 11
Cleveland at Utah

TUESDAY, DEC. 12
Philadelphia at New Jersey
L.A. Lakers at Charlotte
San Antonio at Atlanta
Minnesota at Indiana
Dallas at Chicago
Orlando at Milwaukee
Phoenix at Houston
Detroit at Denver
Golden State at Sacramento
L.A. Clippers at Portland

WEDNESDAY, DEC. 13
Seattle at Boston
Atlanta at Philadelphia
L.A. Lakers at Miami
Milwaukee at Cleveland
Dallas at Minnesota
Phoenix at Utah
Detroit at L.A. Clippers
Denver at Golden State

THURSDAY, DEC. 14
Indiana at New Jersey
Charlotte at Washington
Orlando at Chicago
Houston at San Antonio

FRIDAY, DEC. 15
L.A. Lakers at Boston
Dallas at Philadelphia
New York at Atlanta
Seattle at Cleveland
Milwaukee at Indiana
Miami at Minnesota
Sacramento at Denver
Detroit at Utah
Houston at Phoenix
Golden State at Portland

SATURDAY, DEC. 16
Seattle at New York
L.A. Lakers at New Jersey
Dallas at Washington
Charlotte at Chicago
Miami at Milwaukee
Orlando at San Antonio
Denver at L.A. Clippers
Detroit at Golden State

SUNDAY, DEC. 17
Utah at Minnesota
Orlando at Houston
Phoenix at Sacramento
Indiana at Portland

MONDAY, DEC. 18
No games scheduled

TUESDAY, DEC. 19
Utah at New York
Minnesota at Washington
Dallas at Charlotte
New Jersey at Miami
Sacramento at Atlanta
Seattle at Detroit
L.A. Lakers at Chicago
Boston at Milwaukee
Indiana at L.A. Clippers
Houston at Portland

WEDNESDAY, DEC. 20
Utah at Boston
Dallas at New Jersey
Washington at Philadelphia
Chicago at Orlando
Denver at Cleveland
L.A. Lakers at Minnesota
Sacramento at San Antonio
Indiana at Phoenix
Houston at Golden State

THURSDAY, DEC. 21
Atlanta at Miami
Portland at Seattle

FRIDAY, DEC. 22
Philadelphia at Boston
Detroit at New Jersey
New York at Washington
Utah at Charlotte
Denver at Orlando
Chicago at Atlanta
Cleveland at Milwaukee
Sacramento at Houston
L.A. Clippers at Dallas
San Antonio at Phoenix
Indiana at Golden State

SATURDAY, DEC. 23
New Jersey at New York
Chicago at Philadelphia
Denver at Miami
Orlando at Detroit
Milwaukee at Minnesota
Sacramento at Dallas
Utah at San Antonio
L.A. Clippers at Phoenix
Indiana at Seattle

SUNDAY, DEC. 24
No games scheduled

MONDAY, DEC. 25
Cleveland at Atlanta

TUESDAY, DEC. 26
Washington at New Jersey
San Antonio at Charlotte
New York at Miami
Orlando at Indiana
Minnesota at Chicago
Houston at Milwaukee
Philadelphia at Denver
Golden State at Utah
Portland at Phoenix
Sacramento at L.A. Lakers
Boston at L.A. Clippers

WEDNESDAY, DEC. 27
San Antonio at Washington
Indiana at Orlando
Detroit at Cleveland
Houston at Minnesota
Atlanta at Dallas
Boston at Sacramento
Philadelphia at Seattle

THURSDAY, DEC. 28
New York at New Jersey
Cleveland at Charlotte
Miami at Denver
Portland at Utah
Golden State at L.A. Clippers

FRIDAY, DEC. 29
Milwaukee at Detroit
Houston at Indiana
San Antonio at Chicago
Phoenix at Minnesota
Portland at Dallas
Golden State at L.A. Lakers
Philadelphia at Sacramento
Boston at Seattle

SATURDAY, DEC. 30
Orlando at New York
Chicago at Washington
Houston at Charlotte
Phoenix at Cleveland
New Jersey at Detroit
Atlanta at Indiana
Minnesota at Milwaukee
Denver at Dallas
Miami at Utah
Philadelphia at L.A. Clippers

SUNDAY, DEC. 31
No games scheduled

MONDAY, JAN. 1
No games scheduled

TUESDAY, JAN. 2
Phoenix at New York
New Jersey at Washington
Detroit at Orlando
Milwaukee at Atlanta
L.A. Clippers at Minnesota
Indiana at Dallas
Utah at Golden State
Miami at Portland

WEDNESDAY, JAN. 3
Washington at Boston
Milwaukee at New Jersey
Chicago at Cleveland
L.A. Clippers at Detroit
Indiana at Houston
Philadelphia at San Antonio
Denver at L.A. Lakers
Utah at Seattle

THURSDAY, JAN. 4
Atlanta at New York
Charlotte at Minnesota
Dallas at Phoenix
Miami at Golden State
Denver at Sacramento

FRIDAY, JAN. 5
L.A. Clippers at Boston
Washington at Cleveland
Indiana at Detroit
Orlando at Chicago
Philadelphia at San Antonio
Utah at Portland
Miami at Seattle

SATURDAY, JAN. 6
Boston at Washington
Indiana at Charlotte
Cleveland at Orlando
New Jersey at Atlanta
New York at Detroit
Chicago at Milwaukee
Philadelphia at Houston
Minnesota at San Antonio
Utah at Denver
L.A. Lakers at Golden State
Portland at Sacramento
Phoenix at Seattle

SUNDAY, JAN. 7
L.A. Clippers at New York
Atlanta at New Jersey
Miami at L.A. Lakers

MONDAY, JAN. 8
Indiana at Philadelphia
San Antonio at Orlando
Charlotte at Milwaukee
Seattle at Dallas
Denver at Golden State
Sacramento at Portland

TUESDAY, JAN. 9
Washington at New York
Boston at New Jersey
L.A. Clippers at Charlotte
San Antonio at Miami
Chicago at Detroit
Seattle at Houston
L.A. Lakers at Phoenix
Minnesota at Sacramento

WEDNESDAY, JAN. 10
Detroit at Boston
New York at Philadelphia
L.A. Clippers at Atlanta
Milwaukee at Cleveland
Chicago at Indiana
Denver at Utah
Orlando at L.A. Lakers
Dallas at Golden State

THURSDAY, JAN. 11
Charlotte at New Jersey
Washington at Miami
Portland at Minnesota
Orlando at Denver
Houston at Sacramento
Dallas at Seattle

FRIDAY, JAN. 12
San Antonio at Boston
Cleveland at Philadelphia
Chicago at Charlotte
Minnesota at Detroit
New York at Indiana
L.A. Clippers at Milwaukee
Sacramento at Phoenix
Houston at L.A. Lakers

SATURDAY, JAN. 13
San Antonio at New York
Philadelphia at Washington
Boston at Miami
New Jersey at Cleveland
Portland at Detroit
Milwaukee at Indiana
L.A. Clippers at Chicago
Utah at Dallas
Phoenix at Denver
Orlando at Golden State
Atlanta at Seattle

SUNDAY, JAN. 14
Portland at New Jersey

MONDAY, JAN. 15
Chicago at New York
Miami at Washington
San Antonio at Cleveland
Golden State at Indiana
Dallas at Denver
Charlotte at Phoenix
Sacramento at L.A. Lakers
Houston at Seattle

TUESDAY, JAN. 16
Golden State at Milwaukee
Charlotte at L.A. Clippers
Atlanta at Sacramento
Denver at Portland

WEDNESDAY, JAN. 17
Washington at New Jersey
Detroit at Philadelphia
Boston at Orlando
Indiana at Miami
Cleveland at Houston
Phoenix at Dallas
New York at San Antonio
Atlanta at Utah
Seattle at L.A. Lakers

THURSDAY, JAN. 18
Milwaukee at Washington
Golden State at Chicago
Charlotte at Denver
Minnesota at Phoenix
Seattle at L.A. Clippers

FRIDAY, JAN. 19
Indiana at Boston
New Jersey at Orlando
Philadelphia at Miami
Chicago at Atlanta
Golden State at Detroit
L.A. Lakers at Milwaukee
New York at Dallas
Cleveland at San Antonio
Charlotte at Utah

SATURDAY, JAN. 20
New Jersey at Philadelphia
Washington at Houston
Cleveland at Dallas
San Antonio at Denver
Seattle at Phoenix
Minnesota at L.A. Clippers
Utah at Sacramento

SUNDAY, JAN. 21
Golden State at Boston
L.A. Lakers at Detroit
New York at Chicago
Miami at Milwaukee
Charlotte at Portland

MONDAY, JAN. 22
Phoenix at Orlando
Denver at Houston
Washington at San Antonio
L.A. Clippers at Sacramento

TUESDAY, JAN. 23
L.A. Lakers at New York
Atlanta at Charlotte
Phoenix at Miami
Philadelphia at Cleveland
Detroit at Chicago
Washington at Dallas
Houston at Utah
Minnesota at Golden State
Milwaukee at Portland

WEDNESDAY, JAN. 24
Miami at Boston
Orlando at Philadelphia
Cleveland at Atlanta
L.A. Lakers at Indiana
L.A. Clippers at San Antonio
Golden State at Sacramento
Milwaukee at Seattle

THURSDAY, JAN. 25
Orlando at New Jersey
Boston at Washington
Phoenix at Charlotte
L.A. Clippers at Houston
New York at Utah

FRIDAY, JAN. 26
Chicago at Philadelphia
Phoenix at Detroit
Miami at Indiana
Cleveland at Minnesota
Sacramento at Dallas
Milwaukee at L.A. Lakers
Seattle at Golden State
San Antonio at Portland

SATURDAY, JAN. 27
Washington at Philadelphia
Sacramento at Charlotte
Atlanta at Orlando
Cleveland at Indiana
New Jersey at Chicago
Detroit at Minnesota
Dallas at Houston
New York at Denver
Milwaukee at Utah
Portland at L.A. Clippers
San Antonio at Seattle

SUNDAY, JAN. 28
Phoenix at Boston

MONDAY, JAN. 29
Atlanta at Chicago
Sacramento at Minnesota
New Jersey at Dallas
San Antonio at L.A. Lakers

TUESDAY, JAN. 30
Indiana at Orlando
Cleveland at Miami
Detroit at Atlanta
Sacramento at Milwaukee
New Jersey at Phoenix
L.A. Lakers at L.A. Clippers
Utah at Portland

WEDNESDAY, JAN. 31
New York at Boston
Washington at Detroit
Philadelphia at Indiana
Seattle at Minnesota
Houston at Dallas
Charlotte at San Antonio
L.A. Clippers at Utah
Portland at Golden State

THURSDAY, FEB. 1
Sacramento at New York
Orlando at Milwaukee
Chicago at Houston
New Jersey at Denver
Atlanta at Phoenix

FRIDAY, FEB. 2
Milwaukee at Philadelphia
Sacramento at Washington
San Antonio at Charlotte
L.A. Clippers at Miami
Seattle at Indiana
Boston at Minnesota
Dallas at Utah
Atlanta at L.A. Lakers
New Jersey at Golden State

SATURDAY, FEB. 3
Indiana at New York
Seattle at Washington
L.A. Clippers at Orlando
Detroit at Cleveland
Chicago at San Antonio
Houston at Phoenix
Dallas at Portland

SUNDAY, FEB. 4
Sacramento at Boston
Utah at Detroit
Philadelphia at Milwaukee
Golden State at Minnesota
Atlanta at Denver
New Jersey at L.A. Lakers
Phoenix at Portland

MONDAY, FEB. 5
Miami at New York
Utah at Philadelphia
Golden State at Washington
Seattle at Charlotte
L.A. Clippers at Cleveland

TUESDAY, FEB. 6
Milwaukee vs. Boston at Hartford
New York at Orlando
Washington at Miami
Cleveland at Detroit
Minnesota at Houston
Atlanta at San Antonio
Indiana at Denver
Dallas at Sacramento
L.A. Lakers at Portland

WEDNESDAY, FEB. 7
Charlotte at Boston
Utah at New Jersey
Golden State at Philadelphia
Chicago at L.A. Lakers
Phoenix at Seattle

THURSDAY, FEB. 8
Golden State at New York
L.A. Clippers at Washington
Utah at Charlotte
Philadelphia at Orlando
Miami at Cleveland
Detroit at Milwaukee
Atlanta at Houston
Minnesota at Dallas
Indiana at San Antonio
Chicago at Denver

FRIDAY, FEB. 9
No games scheduled

SATURDAY, FEB. 10
No games scheduled

SUNDAY, FEB. 11
All-Star game at Miami

MONDAY, FEB. 12
No games scheduled

TUESDAY, FEB. 13
Chicago at Miami
New York at Atlanta
Denver at Detroit
Charlotte at Indiana
Boston at Houston
San Antonio at Dallas
Minnesota at Utah
Phoenix at L.A. Clippers
Washington at Sacramento
Portland at Seattle

WEDNESDAY, FEB. 14
New Jersey at Philadelphia
Chicago at Orlando
Indiana at Cleveland
Denver at Milwaukee
Charlotte at Minnesota
Boston at San Antonio
Utah at Phoenix
Portland at L.A. Lakers

THURSDAY, FEB. 15
Seattle at New Jersey
Orlando at Atlanta
New York at Houston
Washington at Golden State
L.A. Lakers at Sacramento

FRIDAY, FEB. 16
Seattle at Philadelphia
Denver at Charlotte
Atlanta at Cleveland
Miami at Chicago
Indiana at Minnesota
Utah at San Antonio
Golden State at Phoenix
Washington at L.A. Clippers
Boston at Portland

SATURDAY, FEB. 17
Cleveland at New York
Denver at New Jersey
Detroit at Miami
San Antonio at Houston
Orlando at Dallas
Sacramento at Utah

SUNDAY, FEB. 18
Indiana vs. Washington at Baltimore
Seattle at Charlotte
Chicago at Milwaukee
Atlanta at Minnesota
Boston at L.A. Lakers
Phoenix at Golden State
Philadelphia at Portland

MONDAY, FEB. 19
Dallas at Cleveland
Miami at Detroit
Houston at Chicago
Golden State at Denver
Philadelphia at Utah
Sacramento at L.A. Clippers

TUESDAY, FEB. 20
Portland at Charlotte
Seattle at Orlando
Washington at Atlanta
New Jersey at Milwaukee
Houston at Minnesota
L.A. Lakers at San Antonio
Boston at Phoenix
L.A. Clippers at Sacramento

WEDNESDAY, FEB. 21
Minnesota at New Jersey
Seattle at Miami
Portland at Cleveland
Orlando at Detroit
Atlanta at Indiana
L.A. Lakers at Denver
Boston at Utah
Philadelphia at Golden State

THURSDAY, FEB. 22
New York at Washington
Dallas at Milwaukee
Utah at L.A. Clippers
Phoenix at Sacramento

FRIDAY, FEB. 23
Houston at New Jersey
Milwaukee at Charlotte
New York at Miami
Detroit at Atlanta
Orlando at Cleveland
Dallas at Indiana
Portland at Chicago
Minnesota at San Antonio
L.A. Clippers at Denver
Philadelphia at L.A. Lakers
Boston at Golden State
Sacramento at Seattle

SATURDAY, FEB. 24
Orlando at Washington
Houston at Atlanta
Philadelphia at Phoenix

SUNDAY, FEB. 25
Detroit at New York
Chicago at New Jersey
Milwaukee at Miami
Charlotte at Cleveland
Portland at Indiana
Dallas at Minnesota
Boston at Denver
Utah at L.A. Lakers
San Antonio at L.A. Clippers
Golden State at Seattle

MONDAY, FEB. 26
Orlando at Philadelphia
Miami at Atlanta
San Antonio at Sacramento

TUESDAY, FEB. 27
Dallas at New York
Charlotte at Orlando
Houston at Detroit
New Jersey at Indiana
Milwaukee at Chicago
Washington at Minnesota
Denver at Phoenix
Seattle at L.A. Clippers
Cleveland at Portland

WEDNESDAY, FEB. 28
Dallas at Boston
Sacramento at Miami
Indiana at Atlanta
San Antonio at Golden State
L.A. Lakers at Seattle

THURSDAY, MARCH 1
Philadelphia at New York
Detroit at Washington
L.A. Clippers at Charlotte
Sacramento at Orlando
Phoenix at Houston
Cleveland at Denver
Portland at Utah

FRIDAY, MARCH 2
Boston at Miami
Milwaukee at Atlanta
Philadelphia at Detroit
New Jersey at Chicago
Phoenix at Dallas
Golden State at San Antonio
Cleveland at L.A. Lakers
Minnesota at Seattle

SATURDAY, MARCH 3
Atlanta at New Jersey
Sacramento at Charlotte
Washington at Orlando
L.A. Clippers at Indiana
New York at Milwaukee
Golden State at Houston
Dallas at Denver
San Antonio at Utah
Seattle at Portland

SUNDAY, MARCH 4
Chicago at Boston
Indiana at Detroit
Cleveland at Phoenix
Minnesota at L.A. Lakers

MONDAY, MARCH 5
Sacramento at New Jersey
L.A. Clippers at Philadelphia
Utah at Miami
Houston at San Antonio
Charlotte at Golden State

TUESDAY, MARCH 6
Portland at New York
Utah at Orlando
Phoenix at Atlanta
Sacramento at Detroit
Washington at Indiana
Chicago at Milwaukee
L.A. Lakers at Houston
Charlotte at Denver
Cleveland at Seattle

WEDNESDAY, MARCH 7
Portland at Boston
L.A. Clippers at New Jersey
New York at Philadelphia
Phoenix at Washington
Orlando at Miami
Denver at Minnesota
L.A. Lakers at Dallas

THURSDAY, MARCH 8
Utah at Chicago
L.A. Clippers at Minnesota
Seattle at Houston
Cleveland at Golden State
Charlotte at Sacramento

FRIDAY, MARCH 9
Washington vs. Boston at Hartford, Conn.
Detroit at New Jersey
Portland at Philadelphia
Seattle at Atlanta
Phoenix at Indiana
Utah at Milwaukee
Golden State at L.A. Lakers

SATURDAY, MARCH 10
New Jersey at New York
Portland at Washington
Indiana at Chicago
Phoenix at Minnesota
Dallas at Houston
Denver at San Antonio
Orlando at L.A. Clippers

SUNDAY, MARCH 11
Philadelphia at Boston
Detroit at Charlotte
New York at Miami
L.A. Lakers at Atlanta
Cleveland at Milwaukee
Utah at Denver
Sacramento at Golden State

MONDAY, MARCH 12
Milwaukee at New Jersey
L.A. Lakers at Charlotte
San Antonio at Minnesota
Golden State at L.A. Clippers
Orlando at Seattle

TUESDAY, MARCH 13
Chicago at New York
Boston at Atlanta
Philadelphia at Cleveland
San Antonio at Indiana
Houston at Denver
Phoenix at Utah
Miami at Sacramento
Orlando at Portland

WEDNESDAY, MARCH 14
L.A. Lakers at Philadelphia
Boston at Dallas
Denver at Phoenix
Miami at L.A. Clippers

THURSDAY, MARCH 15
L.A. Lakers at Cleveland
San Antonio at Detroit
Washington at Milwaukee
New York at Minnesota
Seattle at Utah
Portland at Golden State
Houston at Sacramento

FRIDAY, MARCH 16
New Jersey at Philadelphia
Boston at Orlando
Atlanta at Indiana
Detroit at Chicago
Denver at Dallas
Miami at Phoenix
Houston at L.A. Clippers
Charlotte at Portland

SATURDAY, MARCH 17
Milwaukee at New York
Atlanta vs. Washington at Baltimore
Indiana at Cleveland
Philadelphia at Chicago
L.A. Lakers at Minnesota
Miami at San Antonio
Utah at Sacramento

SUNDAY, MARCH 18
New Jersey at Boston
Cleveland at Orlando
Dallas at Detroit
Minnesota at Denver
Charlotte at L.A. Clippers
Seattle at Golden State
Houston at Portland

MONDAY, MARCH 19
Philadelphia at New Jersey
Dallas at Atlanta
Sacramento at Utah
San Antonio at Phoenix

TUESDAY, MARCH 20
Orlando at New York
Indiana at Miami
Washington at Chicago
Detroit at Milwaukee
Portland at Houston
L.A. Clippers at Denver
Charlotte at L.A. Lakers
Minnesota at Golden State
San Antonio at Seattle

WEDNESDAY, MARCH 21
Cleveland at Boston
Miami at Philadelphia
New Jersey at Washington
Chicago at Atlanta
Milwaukee at Indiana
L.A. Clippers at Utah
Charlotte at Phoenix
Minnesota at Sacramento

THURSDAY, MARCH 22
Dallas at Orlando
Detroit at Houston
Portland at San Antonio
Denver at Seattle

FRIDAY, MARCH 23
Atlanta at Boston
Sacramento at Philadelphia
New York at Charlotte
Dallas at Miami
New Jersey at Indiana
Cleveland at Chicago
Golden State at Utah
Minnesota at Phoenix
L.A. Clippers at L.A. Lakers

SATURDAY, MARCH 24
Boston at New York
Philadelphia at Washington
Milwaukee at OrlandoCharlotte at Atlanta
New Jersey at Cleveland
Sacramento at Chicago
Golden State at Houston
Detroit at San Antonio
Portland at Denver
Seattle at Phoenix
Utah at L.A. Clippers

SUNDAY, MARCH 25
Milwaukee at Miami
Detroit at Dallas
Seattle at L.A. Lakers
Minnesota at Portland

MONDAY, MARCH 26
New Jersey at Charlotte
Denver at Atlanta
Sacramento at Cleveland
Phoenix at Chicago
San Antonio at Houston
Minnesota at L.A. Clippers

TUESDAY, MARCH 27
Washington at New York
Boston at Indiana
Phoenix at Milwaukee
Golden State at Dallas
Seattle at San Antonio
L.A. Lakers at Portland

WEDNESDAY, MARCH 28
New York at New Jersey
Boston at Philadelphia
Denver at Washington
Miami at Orlando
Chicago at Cleveland
Charlotte at Detroit
Sacramento at Minnesota
L.A. Lakers at L.A. Clippers

THURSDAY, MARCH 29
Phoenix at Charlotte
Sacramento at Indiana
Milwaukee at Houston
Dallas at San Antonio
Utah at Golden State
Atlanta at Portland

FRIDAY, MARCH 30
Detroit at Boston
Minnesota at New Jersey
Denver at Philadelphia
Orlando at Washington
Cleveland at Miami
New York at Chicago
Minnesota at Dallas
Portland at L.A. Lakers
Atlanta at L.A. Clippers
Golden State at Seattle

SATURDAY, MARCH 31
Denver at New York
Minnesota at Houston
Milwaukee at San Antonio
Charlotte at Sacramento

SUNDAY, APRIL 1
Orlando at Boston
Washington at New Jersey
Phoenix at Philadelphia
Indiana at Cleveland
Miami at Chicago
Milwaukee at Dallas
Utah at L.A. Lakers
Seattle at L.A. Clippers
Atlanta at Golden State

MONDAY, APRIL 2
No games scheduled

TUESDAY, APRIL 3
Cleveland at New York
Houston at Philadelphia
Golden State at Orlando
Boston at Detroit
Indiana at Chicago
Minnesota at San Antonio
Charlotte at Utah
Dallas at Phoenix
L.A. Clippers at Sacramento
Portland at Seattle

WEDNESDAY, APRIL 4
New Jersey at Boston
New York at Washington
Golden State at Miami
Atlanta at Cleveland
Indiana at Milwaukee
San Antonio at Dallas
Charlotte at Denver

THURSDAY, APRIL 5
Detroit at Atlanta
Orlando at Chicago
Sacramento at L.A. Lakers
Utah at Seattle

FRIDAY, APRIL 6
Philadelphia at New York
Golden State at New Jersey
Houston at Washington
Minnesota at Charlotte
Indiana at Orlando
Boston at Cleveland
Milwaukee at Detroit
Seattle at Denver
L.A. Lakers at Phoenix
L.A. Clippers at Portland

SATURDAY, APRIL 7
Boston at Miami
Philadelphia at Atlanta
Washington at Milwaukee
Chicago at Dallas
Phoenix at L.A. Clippers
San Antonio at Sacramento

SUNDAY, APRIL 8
Miami at New Jersey
Golden State at Charlotte
Houston at Orlando
Detroit at Cleveland
New York at Indiana
L.A. Lakers at Denver
San Antonio at Portland

MONDAY, APRIL 9
Utah at Phoenix
Dallas at L.A. Lakers
Sacramento at Seattle

TUESDAY, APRIL 10
Detroit at New York
Boston at New Jersey
Atlanta at Philadelphia
Houston at Charlotte
Milwaukee at Orlando
Washington at Indiana
Portland at Minnesota
Seattle at Utah
Dallas at L.A. Clippers
San Antonio at Golden State
Denver at Sacramento

WEDNESDAY, APRIL 11
Milwaukee at Atlanta
New Jersey at Detroit
Cleveland at Chicago

THURSDAY, APRIL 12
Miami at Boston
Indiana at New York
Minnesota at Philadelphia
Cleveland at Washington
Charlotte at Houston
L.A. Clippers at San Antonio
L.A. Lakers at Utah
Dallas at Golden State
Phoenix at Sacramento
Denver at Seattle

FRIDAY, APRIL 13
Atlanta at Detroit
Milwaukee at Chicago
Orlando at Minnesota
Golden State at L.A. Lakers
Dallas at Portland

SATURDAY, APRIL 14
Indiana at New Jersey
Chicago at Washington
Philadelphia at Charlotte
Miami at Cleveland
Orlando at Detroit
Atlanta at Milwaukee
Sacramento at San Antonio
Houston at Utah
Denver at Portland
Phoenix at Seattle

SUNDAY, APRIL 15
New York at Boston
Utah at Minnesota
Houston at L.A. Lakers

MONDAY, APRIL 16
Miami at New York
San Antonio at Charlotte
Chicago at Indiana
Portland at L.A. Clippers
Phoenix at Golden State

TUESDAY, APRIL 17
Washington at Orlando
New Jersey at Atlanta
Boston at Chicago
Cleveland at Milwaukee
Denver at Minnesota
Sacramento at Houston
Utah at Dallas
L.A. Lakers at Seattle

WEDNESDAY, APRIL 18
Orlando at Boston
Cleveland at New Jersey
Indiana at Philadelphia
Charlotte at Miami
Utah at San Antonio
Portland at Phoenix
L.A. Clippers at Golden State

THURSDAY, APRIL 19
Dallas at Charlotte
Philadelphia at Detroit
Washington at Chicago
New York at Milwaukee
Denver at Houston
Minnesota at L.A. Lakers
Seattle at Sacramento

FRIDAY, APRIL 20
Chicago at Boston
Atlanta at New York
Cleveland at Orlando
Washington at Miami
Detroit at Indiana
Houston at Dallas
San Antonio at Denver
Minnesota at Utah
Golden State at Phoenix
L.A. Clippers at Seattle

SATURDAY, APRIL 21
Miami at Atlanta
New Jersey at Milwaukee
L.A. Lakers at L.A. Clippers
Portland at Sacramento

SUNDAY, APRIL 22
Orlando at New Jersey
Boston at Philadelphia
Indiana at Washington
New York at Cleveland
Chicago at Detroit
Utah at Houston
Charlotte at Dallas
Phoenix at San Antonio
Minnesota at Denver
Seattle at Golden State
L.A. Lakers at Portland
74.29what decade is this anyway?VERVE::BUCHANANBatWed Jan 03 1990 14:453
I saw this in here and a couple other places - some people say that this is not
a new decade, the new decade doesn't start until next year.  Who thought up
this bunk?  Why is 1990 part of the 80's?
74.30JMHOVCSESU::LANEYou better be good for goodness sakeWed Jan 03 1990 14:509
    
    	The very fist decade atarted with year one, right? So the first
    decade ran from 1-10, the next decade 11-20, etc... That is why alot of
    people say the next decade doesn't start until '91. In my opinion it's
    just semantics. 
    
    
    							Dana
    
74.31HEURIS::METZGEREx-NOTYWed Jan 03 1990 14:5112
assuming that the gregorian calander started at 1 AD then we have the 
first decade going from 0001 to 0010 the second from 0011 to 0020 etc
this decade goes from january 1,1981 to dec 31,1990.

In turn this century doesn't end at dec 31, 1999

it ends at dec 31 2000...


Metz on Time...

74.32Jan. 1, 1990 started the new decade, guys!SASE::SZABObeen TERRIFIED!Wed Jan 03 1990 15:028
    Year 1 ends at 1, not begins at 1.  If it did begin at 1, what happened
    to days 1 through 365 in the year 0?
    
    When a baby's born, they're not 1 until a whole year later!
    
    No whud i meen?
    
    Hawk
74.33COOKIE::MJOHNSTONHell, the fall'll probly kill ya!Wed Jan 03 1990 15:0413
Meanwhile...... Nobody but nitpickers give a crap.

	1990 may be part of the `decade' 

	but 1990 is NOT part of the eighties!

And no matter how many people screech and whine about the fact that the 21st
Century doesn't start until Jan 1, 2001

	Dec. 31, 1999 is going to be one of the biggest New Years Eve blowouts
you've ever seen!

Mike JN
74.34FSHQA1::JHENDRYJohn Hendry, DTN 292-2170Wed Jan 03 1990 15:094
    And this year's Super Bowl technically belongs with the decade of
    the eighties because the championship is for the 1989 season.
    
    John
74.352000, Zero, Zero, Party Over, Outta TimeDWOVAX::HUNTCarolina BoundWed Jan 03 1990 15:2111
74.36PNO::HEISERIt's a BOY!!!Wed Jan 03 1990 15:248
>    When a baby's born, they're not 1 until a whole year later!
    
    My wife missed the first by 17 hours.  I'll take the tax deduction
    instead.
    
    Fortunately she didn't have the baby while we were at Prince's.
    
    Mike
74.37SALEM::RIEUWe're Taxachusetts...AGAINWed Jan 03 1990 15:365
       Congrats Mike, about time huh?
    
    >while we were at Prince's
       Did you borrow any of his funny clothes?
                                          denny  ;^)
74.38But Bob, what about Chinese restaurants?CNTROL::CHILDSDRIVE - the fairy tale of my lifeWed Jan 03 1990 16:042
    
    
74.39hard timesAUNTB::HAASThanks for pouring the gasWed Jan 03 1990 16:334
I think Bob Hunt's attitude has devolved a bit since he got the 1-2
knockout punch, losses by the 'hoos and the iggles.

TTom
74.40Why are they called Gardens?CSCMA::FINIZIOOn line againWed Jan 03 1990 16:4713
    
    
    	Quick Question......
    
    
    		Why are certain places where indoor sports are played
    	named Gardens? i.e. Boston Garden, Madison Square Garden, etc...
    	I understand calling them Forums, but where does the term
    	garden come in?
    
    
    				RIF
    
74.41SASE::SZABObeen TERRIFIED!Wed Jan 03 1990 16:487
    Excellent point, Mike C.!  There won't be enough Chinese restaurants in
    the land o' the free on New Years Eve, 1999 to handle all the business!
    
    And, congrats, Mike H.!  I'm glad your wife didn't have the baby at
    the Grotto too.  Prince, the waiter, would've flipped out!  :-)
    
    Hawk
74.42Attitude In FluxSHALOT::HUNTFrom the young man in the 22nd row ...Wed Jan 03 1990 17:0550
74.43Kelly says "Howdy"AUNTB::HAASThanks for pouring the gasWed Jan 03 1990 17:099
>   <<< ... SHALOT::HUNT ... >>>

If this means what I think it means, then welcome to Charlotte!

If you or your wife are interested, I have about 17 minutes of video of
her favorite player, Kelly, crying the other night. It will, no doubt,
enhance your appreciation of him ;-).

TTom
74.44I'm starting to cheer when MAN is in the forestSHALOT::HUNTFrom the young man in the 22nd row ...Wed Jan 03 1990 17:2122
74.45Tell your kids what I said Bob ... :-)EARRTH::BROOKSEverybody needs an ocassional push...Wed Jan 03 1990 17:465
    You shouldn't stand for that Bob. 
    
    If I it my way, Bambi would be on my dinner plate for Xmas.....
    
    DrM
74.46father of two knows....CNTROL::CHILDSDRIVE - the fairy tale of my lifeWed Jan 03 1990 18:0810
    
    No Dock, you try and tell Bob's kids that and see how far you get....
    
    
    
      you'll wonder why anyone wants to leave their legacy behind  ;^)
      
    such littl' darlin's
    
    mike
74.47Somehow I don't think so, but it had to be said! ;^)RHETT::KNORRCarolina BlueWed Jan 03 1990 18:1113
    BobHunt a Hornets fan.  BobHunt a JR Reid fan.  Gotta love it.  Wonder
    how long it'll be before he starts rooting for that other "local
    favorite" in Charlotte??  (You know, the one that sold out Charlotte
    Coliseum for a 12:00 college game 2 days before Christmas.  Charlotte
    loves the Heels, right TTom?!)
    
    As to Disney stock Bob, believe me we're doing our share.  I've only
    got 1 daughter (uKnorr I) but I haven't used my VCR for a sporting
    event since, well, since the Red Sox were in the Series.
    
    
    - ACC Chris
    
74.48No Tar Heel, heAUNTB::HAASThanks for pouring the gasWed Jan 03 1990 18:239
Charlotte is basically owned by Tar Heels. The banks, the money, the
media. In fact, Jefferson Pilot owns the TV station (WBT) that owns the
rights to the Hornets, ACC football, ACC basketball, etc.  Bob's problems
with Tar Heels are just starting. He's always had the remote view of this 
matter. Soon's he's gonna be in the middle of it.

I doubt if this will endear him to the Tar Heel cause.

TTom
74.49details on the new additionPNO::HEISERIt's a BOY!!!Thu Jan 04 1990 02:1117
    Everyone wanted details so here goes (I'll spare you the gross parts
    for those of you with weak stomachs, okay Dan?):
    
    Christopher Mark was born Sunday morning at 7:21, weighing in at 7lbs.
    10 3/4ozs.  He was also 21" long.  He's our fourth, I have 2 of each
    now (the boys are the oldest and youngest).  
    
    Both boys also have their own offical Boston Celtic T-shirts.  You have
    to start grooming royalty at a young age, you know.
    
    I see the NBA in his future, based on the size of his hands.  I'll tell
    him to go where the money is: NBA, PGA, MBL, or small country
    dictatorship.
    
    4 is the limit!
    
    Mike
74.50CAM::WAYI ain' nothin' but a simple man...Thu Jan 04 1990 11:0716
re the bambino:

Congrats Mike --

Just make sure that the small country dictatorship comes complete
with a room at the vatican embassy 8^)


re TTom --

TTom, next time you see Frank McHugh, tell him the 'Saw said hi... 8^)


'Saw


74.51QUASER::HUNTERJack's Diner, No Brains, No ServiceThu Jan 04 1990 11:266
    Congrats.......  Hope the kid has better taste in sports teams
    than his dad !!  
    
    ;^)
    
    Big Game
74.52Ho, YoAUNTB::HAASThanks for pouring the gasThu Jan 04 1990 11:476
Yo Saw,

We be jammin tonight at the All-American Bar, watching the Hornets play
Minnesota. I'll say hey.

TTom
74.53OURGNG::J_WARDLEGlanville=polyester_WaltonThu Jan 04 1990 12:055
    Hey Mike....where should I send his new Jets shirt....actually,
    Riggen's kid probably grew out of the one I gave him by now, we can
    just recycle it around to all the sports noters.
    
    JoJ
74.54BSS::RIGGENCo Sports teams= BridesmaidsThu Jan 04 1990 12:5910
    Heck Wardle, 
    
    Walton called when he was 6 months old looking for a replacement for
    Lageman. The kid isn't quite thru teefing on the Jet's shirt. 
    Congrat's Mike on the 4th. You should look into having something fixed
    cause it sure ain't broken. My wife gave me a ultimatum after the 2nd
    kid. 
    
    Jeff
    
74.55TSNCAM::WAYHyatt Legal Services to defend NoriegaThu Jan 04 1990 13:027
Question for any of you folks who subscribe to The Sporting News...

Are you satisified with the publication?  Would you recommend it?


Thanks,
Chainsaw
74.56Many people are ditching it these days.VAXWRK::NEEDLEMoney talks. Mine says &quot;Good-Bye.&quot;Thu Jan 04 1990 13:084
You might want to check out the replies in BB_STATS notes 127.29 and on before
you subscribe.  It's on node GUNGHO.  I know you know how to spell that ;^).

j.
74.57wish they give better rated to re-up thoughCNTROL::CHILDSIn Bubby we TrustThu Jan 04 1990 13:1011
    
    yes and yes. unless you're into glossy pictures. also most articles
    are short and prescise and not 12 pages long with information from
    the person first coach to his mother to his highschool sweetheart
    etc...
    
    for me it could have less baseball coverage but that's where they made
    their bones and I sure I'm a minority on the baseball issue....
    
    
    mike
74.59not here anymoreAUNTB::HAASThanks for pouring the gasThu Jan 04 1990 13:475
I liked the completeness of the Sporting News but it suffers from what
every weekly mag does: it's old news. I dropped my subscription and now
try to get a daily dosage of USA Today.

TTom
74.60TSN = BaseballSHALOT::HUNTFrom the young man in the 22nd row ...Thu Jan 04 1990 14:267
    TSN is the Bible of Baseball.  It was born in the 1870s (I think) and
    all it covered for umpteen years was baseball.
    
    If you want baseball coverage, TSN is it.  Anything else and you need
    to look elsewhere.
    
    Bob Hunt
74.61CAM::WAYHyatt Legal Services to defend NoriegaThu Jan 04 1990 14:3510
Thanks...

I knew it had an emphasis on baseball, but I had hoped, considering the
name "Sporting News" that it might give equal coverage....oh well.

I've been toying with the idea of USA today also...that sounds like
it might be the ticket...

later,
'Saw
74.62Get USA Today's on-line service for $10 a month.VAXWRK::NEEDLEMoney talks. Mine says &quot;Good-Bye.&quot;Thu Jan 04 1990 14:390
74.63GENRAL::WADEYou can't always get what you wantThu Jan 04 1990 16:014
    
    	Who won the 1989 NOTY?
    
    Claybone
74.6439131::DHAMELIs Nothing Sacred?Thu Jan 04 1990 16:262
    
    Noter Dame did.
74.65QUASER::HUNTERJack's Diner, No Brains, No ServiceThu Jan 04 1990 17:576
    I don't beleive we had a vote....  I do a directory and see if 
    theres a topic for it... if not, I'll start one.
    
    BTW.... I pay $5.00 a vote...
    
    Big Game
74.66PNO::HEISERIt's a BOY!!!Thu Jan 04 1990 23:368
>       <<< Note 74.53 by OURGNG::J_WARDLE "Glanville=polyester_Walton" >>>
>    Hey Mike....where should I send his new Jets shirt....actually,
>    Riggen's kid probably grew out of the one I gave him by now, we can
>    just recycle it around to all the sports noters.
    
    Better not, I'd be too tempted to throw darts while he's wearing it.
    
    Mike
74.67PNO::HEISERIt's a BOY!!!Thu Jan 04 1990 23:408
>        <<< Note 74.54 by BSS::RIGGEN "Co Sports teams= Bridesmaids" >>>
>    Congrat's Mike on the 4th. You should look into having something fixed
>    cause it sure ain't broken. My wife gave me a ultimatum after the 2nd
    
    We know what causes it now.  I have a date with the garden shears.
    Besides, people started to ask if I was a BYU alum.
    
    Mike
74.68OURGNG::J_WARDLEGlanville=polyester_WaltonFri Jan 05 1990 13:094
>>    We know what causes it now.  I have a date with the garden shears.
>>    Besides, people started to ask if I was a BYU alum.
    						^^^^^^^^
    Well, you do have blond hair....
74.69I'm innocent!PNO::HEISERIt's a BOY!!!Mon Jan 08 1990 14:216
>       <<< Note 74.68 by OURGNG::J_WARDLE "Glanville=polyester_Walton" >>>
>    Well, you do have blond hair....
    
    Purely coincidence!  I have nothing to do with them or their beliefs.
    
    Mike
74.70GENRAL::WADEYou can't always get what you wantMon Jan 08 1990 14:4918
    Why don't TE's get called for illegal procedure when they move
    prior to the snap (ie not in motion and lined up on the line
    next to the tackle).  I've seen this numerous times this season
    and they are never called for illegal procedure.  The instance
    in particular was yesterday's Donk game where Kay moved slightly,
    reset, and then the play was run...........
    
    Also, what's the ruling on possession of the ball when a receiver's
    feet don't touch the ground.  I saw two instances of this over
    the weekend.  The first was Beebe (Buffalo) having control of the
    ball and then landing on his head.  The second was a Ram receiver
    catching a pass on the sideline.  His upper body landed in the field
    of play, he then rolled out of bounds without his feet ever touching
    in bounds.
    
    Please help the hopeless,
    
    Claybone
74.71BUILD::MORGANMon Jan 08 1990 15:016
    Football related question:  What constitutes spearing?  When the TE
    from Pittsburgh, Mularkey, got KO'd yesterday, that to me should have
    been spearing.  There was no mention of spearing by the announcers so I
    was wondering if anyone else thought the same thing.
    
    					Steve
74.72GENRAL::WADEYou can't always get what you wantMon Jan 08 1990 15:336
    Are you talking about the hit Atwater put on him?  If so, no.  I
    don't think it was spearing.  I would bet that the damage was done
    when his head snapped back and he hit the back of his head on
    the ground.  
    
    Claybone
74.73BUILD::MORGANMon Jan 08 1990 16:197
    Re: -1
    
    That's the play I was talking about, but actually I'm looking for a
    definition of spearing.  Seems like a relative term the way it's
    called.
    
    					Steve
74.74COOKIE::MJOHNSTONHell, the fall'll probly kill ya!Mon Jan 08 1990 16:3215
	John Hendry (That Steel Drivin' Man) probably knows for sure, but I'll
take a guess:

	Tight End: I think it depends on what the Wide Receiver is doing. If
the W.R. lines up in such a way that he can go in motion, the T.E. must set. I
think if the Formation is such that the Tight End `could' go in motion, he
doesn't need to set, can move to the side. If he steps back, I think he has to
go in motion.

	Spearing: I've never seen spearing called unless the `spearee' was on
the ground. It seems to be when a player tries to `stick' another player (who
is on the ground) with his helmet. I've never seen spearing called when both
players were on their feet.

Mike JN
74.75BUILD::MORGANMon Jan 08 1990 17:148
    Thanks Mike.  I've noticed the same thing in regard to spearing.  The
    player being speared is usually on the ground, or you sometimes see it
    called when the player being speared is a quarterback.
    
    I was just wondering if anyone had a rulebook handy giving the
    definition of spearing. 
    
    					Steve
74.76Spearing is with the top of the helmetSHALOT::HUNTFrom the young man in the 22nd row ...Mon Jan 08 1990 17:208
    I believe that "spearing" is also defined as hitting the opponent on
    the ground with the top of your helmet.
    
    And, I also believe that the penalty is designed to protect both the
    ballcarrier *and* the tackler.  The tackler is obviously the one to be
    penalized but he could also be a lifetime victim if he breaks his neck.
    
    Bob Hunt
74.78NAC::G_WAUGAMANMon Jan 08 1990 18:5118
    
    Re. .70 (the two-foot rule):
    
    This is one the announcers never get right.  Getting two feet down to
    establish possession is a *substitute* for being downed in bounds.  In
    other words, if you land in play on your rear end, you are down and
    the catch is good, regardless if you get the feet down before sliding
    out-of-bounds.
    
    This is why I thought Beebe's catch was good (although it is
    debatable).  I thought he had solid possession when his head and
    shoulders hit the turf, and that it was the ground that jarred the
    ball loose.  Merlin kept insisting that it was no catch because the
    receiver didn't get his feet down, but this point is irrelevant.  Was
    he down or not when the ball came loose is the relevant question.
    
    glenn
     
74.79GENRAL::GIBSONMon Jan 08 1990 19:077
    
    
    Another thing about that Beebe play is how could it be called an
    incomplete pass when the ball never hit the ground? Beebe had it,
    posession being questionable, lands on his head, ball pops out, 
    Cleveland player catches it. It had to be either a reception or an
    interception.
74.80loose ballCNTROL::GROSSDid all Donks 'fans' lose a bet?Mon Jan 08 1990 19:455
    I saw the replay a few times and it did look like the ball was coming 
    loose *before* Bebee hit the ground.  Otherwise, it should have been
    a reception.
    
    Bill
74.81The play should have been dead right ?EARRTH::BROOKSCap's engaged - I pity the lady ...Tue Jan 09 1990 11:167
    Excuse me, but Bebee (all time name :-) went down as the result
    of a hard hit. I thought that the ground could not cause a fumble,
    therefore, the 'fumble' is irrelevant, right ? It's a completion,
    and Bebee is down at the spot (assuming that he had possession on
    impact) ....
    
    DrM
74.82After further review, as usual, play stands as calledSNDCSL::HAUSRATHWho,Stones in '89. Zep in '90Tue Jan 09 1990 11:2414
    
    Right, Dock, assuming he had possession on impact..  which I don't believe
    he had, it was a completion.  Assuming he didn't have possession, it
    was an interception.    
    
    The bottom line is that the call that was made (incomplete), could not 
    have possibly been the correct call.  Another glaring example that 
    the only thing instant replay has done this year is prolong the
    games.  I can't remember any instances this year (outside of Green Bay
    games) where instant replay has changed a call.  It seems like 
    obvious wrong calls are being passed off as "inconclusive" every time.
    If this is the way replay is going to be used, I say CAN IT!!!      
    
    /Jeff
74.83ok, lets take it from the topCNTROL::GROSSDid all Donks 'fans' lose a bet?Tue Jan 09 1990 12:047
    Seems like the referees were afraid to call it either way, so they took
    a neutral position.  That way it didn't hurt either team.  
    
    Could an official be indecisive and call for a replay (not video)
    of the down?  (No play happened)
    
    Bill
74.84Looking for SoftwareSTAFF::LAPOINTETue Jan 23 1990 00:2919
              >>>>>>>>>Is this where I should ask???<<<<<<<<<
    
    I'm looking for some software that would help me in scheduling games
    
    for the youth hockey league that I am involved in.  Between the
    
    DEC hockey league and the DEC softball league I figure someone must
    
    of written something, but I don't know where to look.  I would
    
    appreciate any pointers. 
    
    
    				Thanks
    
    Leo Lapointe
    Idaho::Lapointe
    
    
74.85extract schedule.comHPSRAD::SANTOSA monster is being built.Tue Jan 23 1990 10:50163
$ ON CONTROL_Y THEN EXIT
$ FLAG1 = 0
$ SAY:== WRITE SYS$OUTPUT
$ !CLEAR SCREEN
$ SAY ""
$ !CURSOR HOME
$ SAY ""
$PIG:
$ SAY "     This is a program that will make a schedule dependent on the number of"
$ SAY "players or teams.  Since an odd number will result in a player/team having"
$ SAY "a Bye once in the season, if your total number of players/teams is even, you"
$ SAY "must deside if they too will have a Bye.   Note also that with an even #"
$ SAY "of players/teams and a choice of the bye for their league, every other week"
$ SAY "two people/teams will have the bye.  Everyone still gets a bye!  Good Luck"
$ SAY "with your Leagues.                Regards, Kevin Freeman DTN 271-6673"
$ SAY ""
$ INQUIRE/NOPUNCT FIL "What is the name of the schedule file you wish to make? "
$ FIL = "''FIL'" - ";"
$ TEMP = F$LENGTH(FIL)
$ TEMP1 = F$LOCATE(".",FIL)
$ IF TEMP .EQS. TEMP1 THEN FIL = "''FIL'" + ".SCH"
$ CREATE 'FIL
$ ON CONTROL_Y THEN GOTO Z4
$ INQUIRE/NOPUNCT RIGHT "How many players or teams? "
$ IF RIGHT .LT. 10 THEN CB = " " + "''RIGHT'" + " |"
$ IF RIGHT .GT. 9 THEN CB = " " + "''RIGHT'" + "|"
$ TR = 1
$ FIX3 = "B"
$ variable_name = RIGHT
$ IF variable_name THEN GOTO FIX1
$ IF .NOT. variable_name THEN GOTO FIX2
$FIX1:
$ ON CONTROL_Y THEN GOTO Z5
$ SAY ""
$ T1 = 'RIGHT
$ T2 = 'RIGHT + 1
$A1:
$ IF T1 .LT. 20 THEN GOTO B1
$ IF T1 .LT. 33 THEN GOTO Z3
$ SAY ""
$ SAY "I can only make a schedule with 32 or less players/teams, Sorry!"
$ SAY ""
$ DELETE 'FIL;
$ GOTO PIG
$Z5:
$ CLOSE OUT
$Z4:
$ DELETE 'FIL;
$ EXIT
$Z3:
$ SET TERM/WIDTH=130
$ SAY ""
$ SAY "Your choice of #'s of players or teams results in too many characters per"
$ SAY "line so when you wish to print or view the schedule you will have to set"
$ SAY "your terminal for 132 characters; use this command   SET TERM/WIDTH=130 "
$ SAY "and   SET TERM/WIDTH=80  to get your terminal back to 80 characters."
$B1:
$ SAY ""
$ SAY "Working........."
$ OPEN/WRITE OUT 'FIL
$ B = 2
$ A = 1
$ C = 1
$ D = " ''C' "
$A2:
$ C = C + 1
$ IF C .LT. 10 THEN GOTO B2
$ D = D + "|" + " ''C'"
$ GOTO B3
$B2:
$ D = D + "|" + " ''C' "
$B3:
$ IF C .NES. T1 THEN GOTO A2
$ D = D + "|" + " ''FIX3' "
$ WRITE OUT D
$ C = 1
$A3:
$ G = 0
$ A = 1
$ IF B .LT. 10 THEN GOTO C1
$ D = " ''B'"
$ GOTO A4
$C1:
$ D = " ''B' "
$A4:
$ IF B .EQS. T2 THEN GOTO BYE
$ IF T1 .NES. A THEN GOTO A5
$ IF B .EQS. C THEN GOTO X1
$ D = D + "|" + " ''C'"
$ GOTO X2
$X1:
$ D = D + "|" + " ''FIX3'"
$X2:
$ WRITE OUT D
$!DONE ROW
$ B = B + 1
$ G = G + 1
$ GOTO A3
$A5:
$ IF B .NES. 1 THEN GOTO A8
$ B = B + 1
$ GOTO A6
$A8:
$ IF T2 .NES. C THEN GOTO A6
$ C = 1
$A6:
$ IF B .NES. C THEN GOTO A7
$ IF FIX3 .LT. 10  THEN D= D + "|" + " ''FIX3' "
$ IF FIX3 .GT. 9 THEN D = D + "|" + " ''FIX3'"
$ TR = A
$ CT'TR = B
$ A = A + 1
$ C = C + 1
$ GOTO A4
$A7:
$ IF C .LT. 10 THEN GOTO B4
$ D = D + "|" + " ''C'"
$ GOTO B5
$B4:
$ D = D + "|" + " ''C' "
$B5:
$ A = A + 1
$ C = C + 1
$ GOTO A4 
$BYE:
$ IF FLAG1 .EQS. 0 THEN GOTO BYE1
$ CC = 1
$BYE2:
$ IF CC .EQS. RIGHT THEN GOTO BYE1
$ CTA = CT'CC
$ IF CTA .LT. 10 THEN CB = "''CB'" + " " + "''CTA'" + " |"
$ IF CTA .GT. 9 THEN CB = "''CB'" + " " + "''CTA'" + "|"
$ CC = CC + 1
$ GOTO BYE2
$BYE1:
$ CB = "''CB'" + " 1"
$ IF FLAG1 .EQS. 1 THEN WRITE OUT CB
$ CLOSE OUT
$ IF T1 .GT. 19 THEN GOTO Z1
$ SAY "Hit a Return and you can view what it looks like.  If you have a VT100 with"
$ SAY "the Advanced Video Option or better, the schedule will have underlines."
$ SAY "Note...they may not appear on all printers as well.  LN03 works great!"
$ SAY ""
$ INQUIRE/NOPUNCT HOLD "Hit a Return to view!  "
$ TYPE 'FIL
$ INQUIRE/NOPUNCT HOLD "Hit a Return to exit!  "
$ PURGE 'FIL
$ EXIT
$Z1:
$ INQUIRE/NOPUNCT HOLD "Hit a Return to view!  "
$ SET TERM/WIDTH=130
$ TYPE 'FIL
$ INQUIRE/NOPUNCT HOLD "Hit a Return to exit!  "
$ SET TERM/WIDTH=80
$ PURGE 'FIL
$ EXIT
$FIX2:
$ INQUIRE/NOPUNCT SELEC "Selection = even Number of Players, do wish for them to have a Bye (Y/<N>) "
$ IF SELEC .EQS. "Y" THEN FIX3 = "B"
$ IF SELEC .NES. "Y" THEN FIX3 = RIGHT
$ IF SELEC .NES. "Y" THEN RIGHT = RIGHT - 1
$ IF SELEC .NES. "Y" THEN FLAG1 = 1
$ GOTO FIX1
74.86 THANKSCSMET2::LAPOINTETue Jan 23 1990 14:2134
	Thanks .85, but I am looking for something a little 
	more sophisticated.

	I would like to be able to create different tables
	for each rink(available ice time). Tell it how many
	home games and how many away games for each team
	then it should tell me who is playing who and where.

	That's the basic that I would like.  It would be nice
	if after each weekend I input who won/by what score
	and it comes back with win/lost record, goals for/goals
	against.

	Most of these ideas came from the Bowling program in the
	Bowling note(93.3) this one even has more information than
	I'm looking for.

	Any pointers would be nice.  There must be someone out there
	who wrote something like this.  Does the NHL us DEC computers?

	If anybody knows something that will run on a PC I MAY be 
	interested in that.

					Thanks

Leo

Also posting in Hockey & Bruins notesfiles.

Is there somwhere else?

					Thanks again


74.87SASE::SZABOTue Jan 23 1990 14:467
    Leo, try the NATURALISM conference.  Look under the nude volleyball
    note, I'm sure there's what you're looking for.  Let me know if they
    invite you to "observe" one of their games.......
    
    Hope this helps.
    
    Hawk  :-)
74.88COOKIE::MJOHNSTONO Ye of little face!Tue Jan 23 1990 15:1114
	Periodically in this Notesfile there is reference to how many plates
can be stacked on T's butt. Comparisons with other platestacking juggernauts
are also common.

" What the hell is this all about?! " he inquired solicitiously.

What's the history on T's plate stacking prowess?
Why does he do it? (because he can or because it's there aren't good enough).

Who started this fad, and are there any other Noters with this particular
fetish/capability?

Expiring Mimes Want To Know
Mike JN
74.89CSMET2::LAPOINTETue Jan 23 1990 16:262
    I was wondering how long it would take you John, oops sorry Hawk.
    
74.90SASE::SZABOKnobbed up and thrustyTue Jan 23 1990 16:423
    No problem, Leo.  Nice to see you're no longer a RON!  :-)
    
    Me.
74.91AUSTIN::MACNEALBig MacTue Jan 23 1990 17:368
    An unusual (to me anyway) situation occured over the weekend as a
    result of the the LA Kings/NY Rangers trade.  A player (Nichols) was
    voted into the NHL allstar game for the Campbell conference, but ended
    up playing for the Wales conference because of the trade.
    
    My question:  Has this ever happened before in any sport?  Has anyone
    been voted in as an All Star representing one team/league/conference,
    but ended up playing for the "opposition"?
74.92HOGAN::COOLEYHope I die before I ACT oldWed Jan 24 1990 01:054
    Actually Nichols played for the Campbell team.  It still was wierd
    though.  Should he play to win?  What if someone on his team started a
    fight with a Ranger?  You think they could of waited a day and
    announced the trade after the game.
74.93It aint over till .........AYOV10::CAIRNSThis is ABSOLUTE REALITY !!Wed Jan 24 1990 06:506
    
   Who coined the phrase "It aint over till the Fat Lady sings"
    
    Also, in what situation did he first use it ?
    
    Walker
74.94SALEM::RIEUWe're Taxachusetts...AGAIN!Wed Jan 24 1990 09:563
       The first time I ever heard it was by the '78 Bullets, but it's
    got to be older than that.
                                      Denny
74.95a little moreCNTROL::CHILDSBroncos&amp;AmericanStandardafinepairWed Jan 24 1990 10:0512
    
    Denny's right about the 78 bullets making it buzz statement in sports
    Dick Motta now the coach of the Sacremento Kings was one who coined
    during the NBA finals when his team was down 3-2 to Seattle......
    
    And if DJ hadn't gone 1-14 in game 7 the fat lady would have sung for
    the Bullets.
    
    The saying comes from some opera, where at the end of the opera some
    fat lady sings.....
    
    mike
74.96la la la la lahSHIRE::FINEUC1Wed Jan 24 1990 10:5618
    Got this from our Mad Opera Singing Welshman:
    
    It ain't over till the fat lady sings is a quote from Mark Twain!
    
    Apparently, he went to see an Aria called Corni von Tutti (sp) where
    this gigantic Swedish lady sang at the end.
    
    Important to note also, is that every Aria ends with some lady
    (preferably fat, I suppose) belting out some tunes which explains
    the whole thing.
    
    First time I ever heard it was the wife of one of the biggest Indians
    I've ever seen. He had on a black ten gallon hat and kept putting
    his drink on the brim while explaining things.  I reckon that the
    poor boy didn't get out to often and just kept slapping back these
    free drinks until his wife (who was rather hefty herself) came from 
      where she was sitting in the back and said "It aint over till the
    fat lady sings - La la la la lah" at the top of her lungs.
74.97FSHQA2::JHENDRYJohn Hendry, DTN 292-2170Wed Jan 24 1990 11:175
    Cosi Fan Tutti is the opera -.1 is referring to.  The first time
    I heard the phrase was from Dick Motta while he was coaching the
    1978 Bullets to the NBA title.
    
    John
74.98MCIS1::DHAMELIs Nothing Sacred?Wed Jan 24 1990 12:289
    
    Didn't the phrase come from the "Mamas and Papas", where Mama Cass
    ended each concert?
    
    Of course, she came from Cleveland, 'cause she choked before reaching
    the finals.
    
    -Dick
    
74.99MCIS1::DHAMELIs Nothing Sacred?Wed Jan 24 1990 12:315
    
    Oh, and wasn't it Little Richard who sang Cosi Fan Tutti?
    
    -Dick
    
74.100famous ladyMSDOA::RASMUSSENUnshakable Kingdom!Wed Jan 24 1990 14:315
    Here's one for ya:
    
        Who's "Basement Bertha" ?
    
    Ras
74.101The fat lady sang two sundays ago.STRATA::WHITEHAIRLet it snow!Wed Jan 24 1990 14:409
    
    One of the BUT sisters.
    
    Right?
    
    Hal
    
    Dick - you better watch yourself!
    
74.102maybe I'm slow today....MSDOA::RASMUSSENUnshakable Kingdom!Wed Jan 24 1990 15:093
    "BUT" sisters ?
    
    nope. keep guessing.
74.104RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JODean Smith :== IntegrityWed Jan 24 1990 15:4711
    Steven,
    
    Yep,  Basement Bertha was in the NEW YORK DAILY NEWS, created, I
    believe, by sports cartoonist Bill Gallo. Gallo's other creations
    include Yunchie and Yoonchi (or sumthang like that), 2 kids who
    talk sports. He's also got a Steinbrenner parody, a Baron Von
    Steinkiller (or unreasonable fax thereof...).
    
    I know that helped.
    
    JD
74.105basketball positions by numbers???WOODRO::GORDONThu Jan 25 1990 15:1616
    could some of you "knowledgeable" basketball people please explain
    playing basketball by the numbers? (is it like painting by numbers?)
    
    I've heared various references to the 2 man or 3 man on the court
    or the 2 position or 3 position but am from the old school where
    a guard was a guard, a forward was a forward, etc.
    
    Does playing by numbers have some "magical" benefit?
    
    Where did this originate?
    
    If it's so great how come it isn't used in the NBA??
    
    Any references to good articles or books on the subject?
    
    thanks in advance....
74.106AXIS::ROBICHAUDThe 49ers. A REPEAT performance.Thu Jan 25 1990 16:2815
    	It's just some fancy technomumble buzz words to identify players
    on the court.  Guards ain't guards anymore they're shooting guards
    (I thought everyone wuz supposed to that?) or point guards.  There
    are power forwards and small forwards, though sometimes your small
    forward cain be bigger than your power forward.  Of course we now
    have point forwards, point centers etc, etc, etc...  But to set
    you straight on the basketball numbers game, it goes like this:
    
    		1. Point guard
    		2. Shooting guard
    		3. Small forward
    		4. Power forward
    		5. Center
    
    				/Don
74.107ThanksMUSKIE::WIERSBECKNothing changes on New Year's DayTue Jan 30 1990 10:234
    In basketball is a tip-in attempt considered an offensive rebound?
    
    
    Spud
74.108YesVAXWRK::NEEDLEMoney talks. Mine says &quot;Good Bye!Tue Jan 30 1990 12:120
74.109REFINE::ASHEWalt's Wackos: 1989 FFL champions!Tue Jan 30 1990 16:0413
    Anyone tape the Bud Bowl?  Can you answer these questions?
    
    After the first td in BB I, was the celbration a hi-5, a hi-6 or
    a hi-mom?
    
    How long was the winning FG?  28 yds, 42 yds, or 8 seconds?
    
    In the pregame speech, did the coach say ro 
    Spill some Bud, Kick some glass or turn out their lights?
    
    Was the Beechwood rollout a pass play, flea flicker or a sweep?
    
    -Walt
74.110VIEW3D::MACGREGORTue Jan 30 1990 16:1112
    Yes, I have the Bud Bowl and that other Bowl on tape.
    
    But only BB II, not BB 
    
    Otherwise I'd say
    1) hi-6
    2) 8 seconds (and 42 yds)
    3) turn out their lights
    4) flea flicker
    
    The Wizard
    
74.111LEVERS::STROUTknocking on heaven's door...Tue Jan 30 1990 16:177
    I'd have to say the beechwood was a sweep, the one Bud dude with
    the ball :) was following a procession of rolling Buds that were
    knocking out all the opponents...                               
    
    the celebration was a hi-6...
    
    sean
74.112VIEW3D::MACGREGORTue Jan 30 1990 16:205
    >was following a procession of rolling Buds ...
    
    That was BB II, he's asking questions from BB I.
    
    The Wizard
74.113okLEVERS::STROUTknocking on heaven's door...Tue Jan 30 1990 16:223
    oh yeah yeah yeah... that was a flea flicker.. definitely..
    
    sean
74.114No Bud-rooskie...NAC::G_WAUGAMANTue Jan 30 1990 16:586
    
    Wasn't that last touchdown an advancement of a fumble inside the last
    two minutes?  What kinda refs were doin' this game, anyway?
    
    glenn
    
74.115:-) :-) :-)PFSVAX::JACOBChuck U, FarleyThu Feb 01 1990 09:2310
    re.114
    
    Yeah, it was an avdance of a fumble......
    
    Bud Bowls are not subject to scrutiny by the NFL rules committee.
    
    
    
    JaKe
    
74.116True story, it was in USA Today Monday ...LUNER::BROOKSRemember the Massachusetts 54th !Thu Feb 01 1990 13:0914
    The Budweiser officials (the real ones) said that they intentionally
    allowed the game to be decided on an play that would have been illegal
    in the NFL. The reason ? So that they could do a Bud Bowl postgame,
    et al ... 
    
    According to the ratings, it was a good move.
    
    Doc
    
    p.s. I remember the Raiders beating the Chargers that way when I
    was a kid living in San Diego. The NFL then put the 2-minute fumble
    rule as a result.
    
    I hated the Raiders for years after that game ....
74.117REFINE::ASHEWalt's Wackos: 1989 FFL champions!Thu Feb 01 1990 21:044
    Can you check the tape.  They showed last years highlights at the
    start.
    
    -Walt
74.118WFOV12::MORRISONStarosc nie radoscMon Feb 19 1990 13:297
    
       Help me settle an arguement. Are Mars Blackman (Nike commercial)
    and Spike Lee (director) the same person? I say yes, but other
    people disagree. A "boot" of Beck beer rides on the outcome.
    
    Bull
    
74.119SAGE::ROSSSend in the clownsMon Feb 19 1990 13:419
>       Help me settle an arguement. Are Mars Blackman (Nike commercial)
>    and Spike Lee (director) the same person? I say yes, but other
>    people disagree. A "boot" of Beck beer rides on the outcome.
	
        One in the same.

	Spike Lee:  "She's Gotta Have It"
	            "School Daze"
		    "Do the Right Thing"
74.120NAC::G_WAUGAMANMon Feb 19 1990 13:416
    
    Yep, that's Spike Lee.  I think Mars Blackman is a character from some
    of his earlier movies.
    
    glenn
     
74.121She's Gotta Have ItSHALOT::MEDVIDNow it's ACID ROCKMon Feb 19 1990 13:538
    Mars Blackman is a character from Spike Lee's firt big release called
    "She's Gotta Have It."  It's been highly recommended though I've never
    seen it.  In the movie, I was told, Blackman makes a big deal out of
    Air Jordans as a status symbol.  Jordan and Nike liked the free
    publicity so much, they decided to try a commercial with Lee.  The rest
    is history.
    
    	--dan'l
74.122WFOV12::MORRISONStarosc nie radoscMon Feb 19 1990 14:277
    
        Thanks all. 
    
        And, for JoJ. Congrats Mars/Spike. :^>
    
        Bull
    
74.123SASE::SZABOOURGNG District Mad Whacker BailiffMon Feb 19 1990 14:303
    Congrats, Bull, for winning the bet!
    
    Haw'k
74.124EARRTH::BROOKSDrM : The Conscience Of SPORTSMon Feb 19 1990 16:3016
    Yup, Mars = Spike Lee ...
    
    Mars Blackman was soooo in love with his Air Jordan's, that he even
    had them on in bed with his lady. No, I'm not making that up !
    
    I **highly** recommend "She's Gotta Have It", one of the funniest
    movies I've seen in my life ....
    
    "please baby baby baby please please please baby ...."
    
    DrM
    
    p.s. BTW, Spike and Co. got screwed in the Oscar balloting. "Do The Right
    Thing" got only two nominations, and neither was for Best Picture
    or Director ... :-(     
    
74.125probably cause of the language DocK....CNTROL::CHILDSHey Fish, GET IN THE BOATMon Feb 19 1990 17:181
    
74.126could be lack of publicity- I never heard of it myself!SASE::SZABOMon Feb 19 1990 17:271
    
74.127SAGE::ROSSFantasy Baseball LockoutMon Feb 19 1990 17:3413
>                       <<< Note 74.126 by SASE::SZABO >>>
>          -< could be lack of publicity- I never heard of it myself! >-

"Do the Right Thing" was a near unanimous Top Ten pick by critics for
1989, some listing it in the Top Ten of the decade.   Danny Aiello, the
owner of the pizza joint in the movie got a Best Supporting nomination.

Of Lee's three movies, I liked "School Daze" best... an inside look at
life at a black college.   Although, it had the most ridiculous ending 
of any movie I have EVER seen.  

"She's Gotta Have It" had some serious hoop talk... Mars was ranking on
Larry Bird pretty heavily.
74.128players versus ownersDELNI::D_ANDERSONInternational Eng. DevelopmentMon Feb 19 1990 19:029
    Can anyone comment (intelligently...:-) on collective bargaining in
    sports. an MBA assignment! For example, how come baseball and football
    seemed to constantly be on the wrong side of the barganing table and
    the nba seems to run fairly smooth. Anything to do with the way the
    perspective unions are run???
    
    Thanks
    Dee
    
74.1291 out of 3 anywaysCNTROL::CHILDSHey Fish, GET IN THE BOATMon Feb 19 1990 19:1517
    
    NBA players agreed to a salary cap to allow the owners to make a profit
    and  agreed to drug testing, suspensions etc...Owners agreed to
    free  agency and revenue sharing (I think players cut is 53%?).
    
    MLB and NFL football the owners are filthy rich and are too greedy to
    share. Football players have revenue sharing but no real free agency
    so to speak. It's there but the compensation is very high. A grade A
    stud comands 2 no #1 draft picks. Owners are know as the good ole boys
    network and simple coluded not to sign others players. There were final
    a few signings after baseball owners were found in collusion to mask
    the good ole boys' network.....George Steinbrener is an onwer of a
    baseball team need anyone wonder why the two sides are at odds in 
    this game?
    
    mike
               
74.130LUNER::BROOKSDrM : The Conscience Of SPORTSMon Feb 19 1990 19:4422
    re .127
    
    1) Doug, the ending for "School Daze" was symbolic, not to be taken
    at face value.
       
    2) re Larry Bird ("She's Gotta Have It")
    
    Mars : "Bernard King threw down this *serious* ... dunk, right
    into Larry Bird's ugly mug !"
    
    Jamie : "You have to admit, the white boy is bad ... he's the best
    player in the NBA."
    
    Mars : "THE BEST ? THE BEST ?"
    
    Jamie : "The best ..."
    
    Mars : "The best ? He's might be the *UGLIST* mutha----er in the NBA !"
                                             
    When Mars dropped that line, the entire theater was floorward !
                     
    (Eat THAT Jihad !)
74.131LEVERS::STROUTColor our world blackened...Mon Feb 19 1990 19:466
>    Mars : "The best ? He's might be the *UGLIST* mutha----er in the NBA !"
 	
    	Yeah, my friends had to peel me off the floor after that one!
    8^)
    
    sean   
74.132DECXPS::TIMMONSI'm a Pepere!Tue Feb 20 1990 09:499
    Regarding pro sports contracts:
    
    Saw a cartoon last week, where a guy says he just saw the most
    ridiculous sign.  It was an athlete, who makes $1M a year, carrying
    a sign that said "Owners are unfair."  :*)
    
    Gotta admit that it's a pretty weird situation.

    Lee
74.133Stern AnswerCGVAX2::REEVETue Feb 20 1990 12:127
    re- .128
    
    Read the article in today's(2/20) USA Today on David Stern. He is the
    primary reason for the success of the NBA, and he deserves the enormous
    contract that he was just given.
    
    Chris
74.134How did Miami, Florida get its name?SHALOT::MEDVIDNow it's ACID ROCKTue Feb 20 1990 15:4416
    OK, here's a question for you history/geography buffs (no not
    Colorado).  ESPN was giving scores at halftime last night and one of
    them was the Davidson vs Miami of Ohio score.  My girlfriend asked me why
    there was a Miami in Ohio.  I told her because the Miami indians lived
    there and there is a river named the Great Miami River.
    
    Then she asked me which came first, Miami in Ohio or Miami in Florida. 
    Miami in Ohio by about 200 years.  Then she followed with one I
    couldn't answer; how come if the Miami indians were in Ohio and the
    Miami River is in Ohio is there a Miami in Florida (i.e. how did Miami,
    Florida get its name)?
    
    Anyone know before I go to the library to find out?
    
    	--dan'l
    
74.135LEVERS::STROUTColor our world blackened...Tue Feb 20 1990 15:464
    
    	your girlfriend asks too many questions.  8^)
    
    sean
74.136Questions don't bother me when the answer's right.SHALOT::MEDVIDNow it's ACID ROCKTue Feb 20 1990 15:498
    Maybe, but she always has the right answer:
    
    
    
    
    yes. Yes. YES!
    
    	--dan'l
74.137PWRVAX::RIEUWe're Taxachusetts...AGAIN!Tue Feb 20 1990 15:583
       Maybe the indians went to Florida for the Winter? 
    Why is there a town in Mass. called Florida?
                                           Denny
74.138RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOIt is done! It is DONE!!!Tue Feb 20 1990 15:5927
    Dan'l,
    
    A very easy question.
    
    The legend on how Miami got its name is well known in the south
    of Florida - school children are taught it at a young, young age.
    Way back when the 'white' man first came to Florida (Ponce Deleon
    and the boys, but  not that far back).
    
    Legend has it that a couple of white explorers were 'discovering'
    parts of southern Florida.  They ran across different Indian tribes
    - some friendly, some not.  They met a band of Indians near where
    Miami is today, led by a captivating creature with the name of
    Amistarbright.   She captured the hearts of the explorers, but a
    few of the Indian men didnt' take to kindly to the explorers amorous
    overtones to Amistarbright.  The head Indian male, and the head
    explorer finally came to blows over Amistarbright, or Ami, as the
    explorers were fond to call her.  The two fought tooth and nail,
    cursing and punching and arguing over whose Ami was.  "My Ami, no
    MYYY AMI, they argued"  They ended up killing themselves, and the
    remaining explorer, sat back, and put his arm around Amistarbright
    and said, "No, My Ami".  They settled there, propogated, and the
    settlement became know as Myami, later anglicized to Miami.
    
    That's the legend.
    
    JD
74.139Hmmmmmmm. SHALOT::MEDVIDNow it's ACID ROCKTue Feb 20 1990 18:4714
    JD,
    
    As a writer, I could probably have come up with better.  But legends
    are legends and I'll pass it on.  I'm now even more curious.  If this
    legend is printed in the World Book, I'll sh!t.
    
    A colleague here told me that indians used some common words throughout
    the many languages they had.  My hunch is that Miami is one of those
    words.  I'll letchall know soon.
    
    Until then, don't lose sleep.  I know many of you are as concerned
    about this as world peace and the ozone layer.
    
    	--dan'l
74.140JULIET::MAY_BRWimp football rules!Tue Feb 20 1990 21:2815
    Re NBA vs. NFL,MLB
    
    One reason that the NBA seems to be run smoother is that several
    years ago, when the NBA was in serious financial trouble, the owners
    came to the players (who realized that their livelihoods were in
    jeopardy) and worked with them as partners.  They've worked pretty
    much together ever since.
    
    Re Stern:
    
    He walked into a good situation.  Much of his success is due to
    the work Larry O'brien did ahead of him to build the foundation
    Stern is living on.
    
    Bruce
74.141GRANPA::DFAUSTNew Sears=Old K-MartTue Feb 20 1990 22:0910
    The reason Stern walked into a good situation when he replaced Larry
    O'Brien is that Larry had an excellent Deputy Commissioner that set up
    alot of the things that are helping the NBA excell today. This prudent
    executive helped set up the revenue sharing, the drug testing policy,
    and the television arrangements. That assistant to O'Brien is the real
    reason that NBA is the healthiest league today. That assistant's name
    was
    
    
    David Stern  .
74.142or the mouse that roared......DELNI::D_ANDERSONInternational Eng. DevelopmentWed Feb 21 1990 13:3812
    Thanks for the comments on the NBA. Basically you all seem to be saying
    it is leadership and the NBA has the best.   Good quote on leadership....
        
                     "An army of sheep led by a lion
    
                                  WILL DEFEAT
    
                      An army of lions led by a sheep"
    
    David the Lionhearted..........
    
        Dee
74.143ORRRRRCOOKIE::MJOHNSTONKeep on keepin' on!Wed Feb 21 1990 18:2011
74.144FWIWCAM::WAYWith malice toward noneMon Feb 26 1990 15:327
	The strength of the wolf is the strength of the pack
	and the strength of the pack is the strength of the wolf.

I like wolves better than lions OOOORRRR sheep....

Chainsaw
74.145ADAWAY3218::REEVETue Feb 27 1990 14:541
    Obviously an NC State and therefore an ACC fan!!
74.14618557::WAYWith malice toward noneTue Feb 27 1990 17:196
No, actually, I'd root for some of those NC State wimens tho! 8^)

I'm not a big hoops fan..... just thought the saying my be of
interest....

Chainsaw
74.147CAM::WAYFrank Wave and the Ozone InvadersMon Mar 19 1990 11:1213
Need a little help...

If any of you are familiar with the area, I need some directions/help.

I want to go into Boston on Saturday, and what I was planning on
doing was parking in Newton and taking the T all the way in.

Is this possible?  If so, can I get directions to a parking area near
the T, and how much will it cost me to get into Boston ($1.50???).

Thanks....

Chainsaw
74.148FSHQA2::JHENDRYJohn Hendry, DTN 292-2170Mon Mar 19 1990 12:0112
    Mass Pike East to 128/95 South.  Take the next exit, I forget the
    number and name.  As you get into the exit, it forks, take the fork
    to the right.  As you get to the end of the exit, take a right again
    and this will loop you back over 128/95.  Pass a Days Inn on your
    left, go down to the bottom of the hill and the parking lot for
    the Riverside MBTA station will be there.  It will cost you $2.25
    to park (the price has gone up) and it will cost you $1.75 to get
    on the train.  Make sure you have enough quarters with you because
    they don't take dollar bills on the train and you can't always count on
    the change booth being open.
    
    John
74.149Be a man, Chainsaw!4159::NAZZAROThanks Minutemen, for a GREAT year!!Mon Mar 19 1990 12:423
    WHAT ARE YOU, A WIMP?!?!?!?!?  DRIVE IN AND TAKE YOUR CHANCES!!
    
    NAZZ
74.150CAM::WAYFrank Wave and the Ozone InvadersMon Mar 19 1990 12:5021
Nazz,

I've done that before.  When I was little, my dad was a truck driver.
He used to go all over New England, and I remember being in Boston,
in the cab, with people passing us on the right at stop lights,
all but going on the sidewalk to do it.

I've driven in Boston before.  On the side of my pick-em-up, I've
got 5 car silhouettes (makes me an Ace) and 12 people silhouettes.
All of them were earned in Boston.

Finally, since I grew up in the country, and don't get into the
big city that often, I love the subway.  To me, riding the T,
or the Metro in Paris, is/was an event I never tire of.

So, therefore, I'll be riding on in, hopefully hit the Broons-Stars
game, maybe go to the Computer museum, and ride back out to
Newton and home....

8^)
Chainsaw
74.151VAXWRK::NEEDLEMoney talks. Mine says &quot;Good-Bye.&quot;Mon Mar 19 1990 20:198
>>So, therefore, I'll be riding on in, hopefully hit the Broons-Stars
>>game, maybe go to the Computer museum, and ride back out to
>>Newton and home....

Better leave da Broons game early, Frank.  All dose Broons fanz head right for
da computah mooseum aftah da gamez.

:^).
74.1527983::RIEUIn search of...Mr Trout!Tue Mar 20 1990 09:183
       Compyuter muzeum!! Sheesh, caint git enuf, eh Frankie? Go to da sports
    muzeum insted!!
                                      Denny
74.153did i really rite this?SASE::SZABOI'm a Titles man myself!Tue Mar 20 1990 10:287
    Yeah, Frankie, goed to da sportz moozeem an take a pitcher a Larreez
    woody an make lotz a copeez to send to all us noterz speshally Dock so
    we cain bow down evry day an wership this grate wite hop!!!!!111
    
    :-)
    
    hwak
74.154CAM::WAYWe are your OverlordsTue Mar 20 1990 10:5214
Was that Ha'wk, or RCASO?

Where's the Sports Muzeum?  

I've been wanting to go to the computer museum for a while.  When I
first started working, the machine I worked on shoulda been in
a museum (PDP-11/40!).  But I was working for a municipality, so you
know how hard it is to get new and good equipment...
I thought if I went to the computer place, maybe I'd see that old machine 8^)

I like science type stuff, and I'd like to hit the aquarium too, but 
not on Saturday...

Chainsaw_a_TRUE_Renaissence_Man
74.155A Bit out of your Way (no pun intended)FSHQA1::JHENDRYJohn Hendry, DTN 292-2170Tue Mar 20 1990 10:595
    'Saw, the Sports Museum is on Soldiers Field Road.  It's across
    the road from WBZ radio and TV, in the general vicinity of Harvard
    Stadium.
    
    John
74.156SASE::SZABOI'm a Titles man myself!Tue Mar 20 1990 10:597
    C'saw, if you like science, check-out the "Laserium" laser light show
    at the planetarium in the Science Museum.  The laser lights are done
    "live" to certain types of music, depending on what's scheduled at what
    time.  I know that 2 of the shows are (1) The Music of Pink Floyd and
    (2) The Music of the Late '60s.  Guarenteed you'll be entertained.....
    
    Hawk
74.157CAM::WAYO God of BattlesTue Mar 20 1990 11:1510
H'a'wk...

I've seen those before.  They used to do it in Ct, in the Planetarium
at the Children's Museum in W. Hartford.  It was great.  You kind of
lean back, space a lot, and check out them lasers.

Kind of reminds me of my wild days, when Dennis Hopper and I road
across the US....too cool...

C'saw
74.158help this hopesMURRI::ROBINSONgrace under pressureTue Mar 20 1990 11:279
    'Saw,
    
    If you are in a pinch you can park at the lower level of the Days
    Inn for free.  It's located right next to the Riverside T Station.
    
    The exit off RT 128/95 is right across from a Roy Rogers restaurant
    and a gas station.  Coming from the south it will be a few miles 
    after you pass the exits for RT9.  You'll see an overpass at the 
    exit and directly to the right will be the Days Inn.
74.159AXIS::ROBICHAUDI cain't be bought...outTue Mar 20 1990 11:424
    	Frank, if you're gonna be down by the waterfront, pray for strong
    winds and lots of girls in mini-skirts.
    
    				/Don
74.160CAM::WAYO God of BattlesTue Mar 20 1990 12:3112
Slasher,

You know me too well.  Those are the things I live for.  That and
a good ale, some fine literature, and some good music.  The
sight of a shapely thigh under a mini-skirt on a windy March day,
ranks right up there with Rodin sculpture, Beethoven Symphonies,
Wagnerian Opera, exquisite whisky, Shakespeare, and the surrealistic
art of Salvador Dali....

Pray tell me, what more could a man ask for?

Chainsaw
74.161$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$CNTROL::CHILDSI need a miracle everydayTue Mar 20 1990 15:021
    
74.162Basketball Rules QuestionMILKWY::RWHITEThu Mar 22 1990 16:2011
    Last night my friends and I were playing our usual Wednesday night
    basketball game when a kind of unusual situation occured.  Two teamates
    of mine were at the baseline vying for the rebound.  The ball was
    flying out of bounds and one teamate grabbed it as he was falling out
    of bounds also.  The second teamate grabbed him to prevent him from
    falling out of bounds thus saving the ball.
    
    Question:  Is this legal?
    
    
    								Randy
74.163CAM::WAYAnd death shall have no dominionThu Mar 22 1990 16:214
74.164JULIET::MAY_BRWimp football rules!Thu Mar 22 1990 16:272
    
    And what state you are in.
74.165LEVERS::STROUTthe last day of our acquaintance...Thu Mar 22 1990 16:273
    	Randy, might be called for travelling.
    
    sean
74.166CAM::WAYAnd death shall have no dominionThu Mar 22 1990 16:432
Yes!  Especially if after grabbing the player he does not
immediately begin dribbling the player....
74.167ACTING::MACGREGORThu Mar 22 1990 16:481
    Hey guys, it's only Thursday, save it for tomorrow.
74.168CAM::WAYAnd death shall have no dominionThu Mar 22 1990 16:5111
Cain't...

Gotta go to a meeting that some bonehead scheduled from 1-5 pm in
Merrimack.

One thing I hate is driving to Merrimack on a Friday afternoon, leaving
at 5pm and getting home in Connecticut after 7pm!  

So, this is my Friday 8^)

'Saw
74.169COOKIE::MJOHNSTONWON MAN ISS NO TOO BLAM! YUO AR!!Thu Mar 22 1990 16:546
I'm roollllin.
	ya never know what topic something insane is going to happen with.

Meanwhile, I vote he can grab him (no tongs, though).

Mike JN
74.170MCIS1::DHAMELIs Nothing Sacred?Thu Mar 22 1990 16:555
    
    Have a Good Friday!  Oops, just checked the calandar and  it ain't
    until April 13th.  Well, have a day.  8^)
    
    
74.171LEVERS::STROUTthe last day of our acquaintance...Thu Mar 22 1990 17:0412
    	ok, here's another miscellaneous question.  say four players
    on a team crowd around the other teammate with the ball like this:
    
    		5
               413   
                2    
    	
    	and they keep passing the ball back and forth between each other
    as they move as a mass towards the basket, never letting the opponents
    get near the ball.  how do you stop them from scoring?
    
    sean
74.172ACTING::MACGREGORThu Mar 22 1990 17:066
    RE: stop the masses
    
    Easy, use a human wall around the 3pt line and let them either CHARGE
    or put up a 3.
    
    The Wizard
74.173FTMUDG::DUGGANThu Mar 22 1990 17:112
    A land mine comes to mind...
    
74.174COOKIE::MJOHNSTONWON MAN ISS NO TOO BLAM! YUO AR!!Thu Mar 22 1990 17:2318
74.175LEVERS::STROUTthe last day of our acquaintance...Thu Mar 22 1990 17:3012
    
    	thanks mike, wiz... gotta come up with some new strategies for
    my pee wee team.  this one's my favorite:  the play is called "snoopy"
    (don't ask why, I guess it's easy for them to remember).  In
    the halfcourt offense, when the point guard yells "Snoopy!", all
    the players besides the point guard dash to the corners of the court.
    Since it's one on one defense, the four defenders follow and that
    leaves a one on one situation for our all star point guard.
    
    	pretty cool huh?  8^)
    
    sean
74.176VIEW3D::MACGREGORFri Mar 23 1990 09:0218
    RE: Sean
    
    Yeah that'll *really* improve the teams ability 8^)
    Why don't you *draft* a 7 footer and just lop the ball to him under
    the hoop all day 8^)
    
    Seriously, I found that with the younger teams things like the pick
    and roll almost always work.  However, when I was younger (and thought
    I knew everything, turns out I was wrong, but now I do) a double
    pick and roll was fun to execute and way just as successful, sometimes
    moreso because then the defense wouldn't know who to cover.  Have
    player A place a pick, player B rolls around him, stops, player
    A rolls back around player B, gets the ball, player B goes towards
    basket and player A passes to player B.  This always left one double
    teamed and one open, and sometimes make a triple team with two open
    players.
    
    The Wizard
74.177CAM::WAYAnd death shall have no dominionFri Mar 23 1990 09:496
I got double teamed by two luscious blondes one night...

Unbelievable how I picked and rolled, picked and rolled....

Yeeee-hah!
Chainsaw
74.178SASE::SZABOHave you had your fahrvergnugen today?Fri Mar 23 1990 10:083
    Must've been one hellacious fahrvergnugen, eh Chainsaw?  :-)
    
    H'awk
74.179Hunter S. Thompson - moved by modAUSTIN::MACNEALBig MacFri Mar 23 1990 12:28385
74.180Wagner CD Wanted - Moved by moderatorAUSTIN::MACNEALBig MacFri Mar 23 1990 13:1279
74.181A message from a moderatorAUSTIN::MACNEALBig MacFri Mar 23 1990 13:154
    Please, if you are going to stray off the subject, at least put it in
    the right topic.
    
    Thanks
74.182DASXPS::TIMMONSI'm a Pepere!Fri Mar 23 1990 15:373
    But Mac, we ALWAYS stray off the subject.  :*)
    
    Lee
74.183New conferenceVAXWRK::NEEDLEFri Mar 23 1990 17:075
I've created a new conference called STRAYING.  Press KP7 to add it.  The only
rule is you can't enter a reply that has anything to do with the topic.  I'm
only afraid it will make this file obsolete.

j.
74.184FAIRWY::KINGRFUR...the look that KILLS...Sat Mar 24 1990 23:419
    Heard this one last night ... Name the 4 players who joined the
    Celtics AFTER they had won a scoring title..
    I can only think of three...
    
    Archibald
    Pistol Pete Marivich
    Boob Mcadoo
    
         REK
74.185GOMETS::mccarthyMike McCarthy MRO4-2/C17 297-4531Mon Mar 26 1990 11:153
Dave Bing is the other one.

Mike
74.186Wrestling Questions....FTMUDG::REEDOklaSt--#29 NCAA Wrestling ChampionshipMon Mar 26 1990 12:289
    Anyone know who won the NCAA Wrestling Tournament last weekend?
    
    Also, does anyone know how many times Oklahoma State has won the
    tournament?
    
    Need to know.
    
    Cowboy
    
74.187compose charactersPNO::HEISERMon Mar 26 1990 12:3841
74.188SASE::SZABOMon Mar 26 1990 13:345
74.189With Pomp and Circumstance...CAM::WAYBe excellent to each otherMon Mar 26 1990 13:4711
Hawkster....

Bow down on one knee.  I, acting as the Royal Ugly Dude of Technoweeniedom,
do hereby, and forsooth, decree, and bestow upon you, the title of
Technoweenie.  Arise, Sir Hawk, and go forth to compose characters,
modify video characteristics, and change line parameters for the good
of all Technoweenies everywhere.

So it is written, so it shall be done.

Chainsaw
74.190JULIET::MAY_BRWimp football rules!Mon Mar 26 1990 22:4818
                                                      
    Back off, 'saw.  I coined the term technoweenie, and therefore am
    the Archbishop of Technoweeniedom.  I also have a hard and steadfast
    rule on what one must accomplish to be dubbed a technoweenie: anyone
    who knows more than the Archbishop is one.        
                                                      
    Hawkster, you have joined the darkside of the force and are now
    a technoweenie of the Lower Order  (you only know a couple more
    compose characters than I do).  Be carefully as you travel through
    the Valley of Microcode, you have much to learn (like how to type
    off the end of the screen so only little diamonds show, like Dan
    Schneider does) and it is a path filled with bugs.
                                                     
    'saw it's a good thing you said you were only acting, or else I
    would let loose my uneducated masses yearning to beat you freely.
         
    Archbishop Bruce I
         
74.191VAXWRK::NEEDLETue Mar 27 1990 01:460
74.192it's a long road to High Order Technoweeniedom!SASE::SZABOTue Mar 27 1990 10:537
    >......type off the end of the screen ....... like Dan does......
    
    Absolutely rollward, Bruce!  I often wonder how Dan does that, but it's
    fun guessing at those mysterious words.....  :-)
    
    Hawk, Technoweenie of the Lowest Order
    
74.193CAM::WAYBe excellent to each otherTue Mar 27 1990 14:3622
Back off yourself, O Bishop of DIS-May....

I recognize no religious authority.  Unleash the masses...for I will
only bend them to MY Will.  

They will inundate you with Macro and with truly portable C code until
you plead for a plague of a thousand years of locusts upon your terminal.

I will make your LAT packets tremble with the greatest fear, and truly
transform you entire universe into the Hell of All-in-1 Mail at 300
baud...

One who possesses the knowledge, and who grows, can far surpass the
inventor, much like the child who's power extends beyond his father.
Yes, the force if Technoweeniedom is strong within me....

Step to the line, and accept the challenge if you dare, else yield
to me, The Black Knight of Technoweeniedom, you miserable piece of
worm doo-doo....

I have spoken....
Chainsaw
74.194which Unix are we using this week?PNO::HEISERVAX MIDI anyone?Tue Mar 27 1990 15:503
>They will inundate you with Macro and with truly portable C code until
    
    Talk about oxymorons!
74.195COMET::MONTGOMERYThe OAKLAND RAIDERS!!!!Tue Mar 27 1990 15:578
                                                      
>    Hawkster, you have joined the darkside of the force and are now
 
Allright Hawk!!  Another RAIDER fan!!!!

Monty  ;^)


74.196CAM::WAYBe excellent to each otherTue Mar 27 1990 18:039
74.197HAHAHAHAHAH!!!1SUBSYS::GROETZINGERTom at DTN 291-7367 NKS1-2/H6Wed Mar 28 1990 23:1712
    Toooooooooooooooooo muuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuccccchhhhhh!!!!
    
    
    
    HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHA
    
    
    
    Loved the dInZ CadEnSe.....
    
    
    					Tom
74.198Desparately seeking a woody! :-) SASE::SZABOThu Apr 05 1990 17:2518
74.199GENRAL::WADEone more radar lover gone!Thu Apr 05 1990 17:5114
    Hawkster,
    
    Are you looking for a baseball or softball bat.  I know you said
    baseball but with you being a little "loose around the edges"
    and all....  Anyway, in my completely biased opinion, if you get
    an aluminum bat, buy an Easton.  If you get a woody, take a cold
    shower, er, I mean get a good ole Louisville Slugger.  BTW, I've
    never seen an Easton for $19.  You musta been looking at some
    *budget* bats.  
    
    Claybone
    
    ps  an aluminum bat will probably last alot longer....not many
        of them break!
74.200RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOG.H.C.C - Home of the Chokers!Thu Apr 05 1990 17:5622
    Hawk,
    
    >Glad to hear yo are buying a wood bat.  Aluminan bats are a bane
    on very moral fabric of American Society.  This great nation slipped
    towards the abyss of mediocrity when the aluminim bat found it's
    way into the hands of our youths and beer-bellied softball players.
    I used one once, and the sickening ping when I hit the ball caused
    me to freeze at the plate - where was the sweet sound - the 'crack'
    of the bat?  Aluminum bats should only be used in domes on artificial
    turf!!!!
    
    When I see an aluminum tree growing out in the wild, I'll use an
    aluminum bat.  Til then, the natural, AMERICAN, bat - the all WOOD
    bat will be my weapon of choice.
    
    If you love this great nation - if you respect AMERICA and it's
    culture - you'll buy a wooden bat.
    
    
    "glory, glory, glory, hallaluyuh..."
    
    Sarge
74.201CAM::WAYOutfielder in the BourbonThu Apr 05 1990 17:5716
Hawk --

I like Louisville Slugger.   Some peopl prefer to carry mace, 
others prefer to carry a Smith & Wesson.  For my money, nothing
is more satisfying that connecting with a cranium with my
friend Loius!

Seriously, ain't nothing like wood.  For baseball or protection.

Hope this helps...
Chainsaw


PS  Speaking of "cranium" I loved it in Wrasslemania VI when 
    Gorilla kept talking about guys softening up the cranium.
    I wasn't aware that could happen...
74.202RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOG.H.C.C - Home of the Chokers!Thu Apr 05 1990 17:595
    Speaking of Rasslin'mania - anyone who saw it care to give a rundown.
    No - I won't go to the rasslin notes file - I just wanna know the
    results.
    
    JD
74.203SASE::SZABOThu Apr 05 1990 18:2312
74.204USRCV1::COLOTTIRIm Bart Simpson,who the hell r u?Thu Apr 05 1990 18:294
    Not many bats are approved for both. Your son's bat MUST say
    "Little League Approved". Check with your daughters league and see
    what type of bat they allow. HTH, Rich
    
74.205FTMUDG::DUGGANThu Apr 05 1990 18:327
    Remember-- pine tar only goes up 18" on the handle! Ask George (Brett
    or Steinbrenner)
    
    8*)
    
    ...mike
    
74.206Bats from hell, bats from Gotham, bats, bats ,bat.WFOV11::APODACAIt's a Kodak(tm) moment.Thu Apr 05 1990 18:3610
    Remembering waaaaaay back when I played Girl's Softball (I coulda
    been a contender....), I think we used almost any kind of bat. 
    There were mostly metal bats, but I think some of the team used
    wooden bats.  I could have used a side of a barn and not hit a derned
    thing, but that's another tale.
    
    My point is that perhaps you simply need a bat for the more restrictive
    Little League, and you can go with that.
    
    ---kim
74.207GENRAL::WADEone more radar lover gone!Thu Apr 05 1990 18:4615
    Yo Mr. Red, White, and Blue (aka Sarge)
    
    "beer-bellied softball players...".  I play competitive softball.
    You won't find no steeeenking beer-bellied boys on our roster.
    We also use aluminum bats.  Aluminum is just as *natural* as a tree.
    Besides, have your ever heard the sound of a softball off of a
    wooden bat?  It kinda goes "FWOP".  Now, I agree that wooden bats
    should be used in baseball.  Nothin' like the crisp CRACK you hear
    when somebody connects with a hardball.  But, leave us softballers
    outa this.  Besides, I don't wanna go back and put a bunch of
    asterisks by my homeruns :^)
    
    ...his truth is marching OOOOOOOOOOOON!...
    
    Claybone
74.20815436::LEFEBVREYou gotta get in to get outThu Apr 05 1990 18:4711
    Frank will back me up on this one.  Squawk, if you were a *real*
    man, you'd pack in a cheekful of Red Man and saunter down to the
    nearest hickory tree with McCulloch in haind.
    
    After you've knock the tree down, proceed to unfold your favorite
    Eagle buck knife and proceed to whittle yourself a woodie.
    
    Real men would defoliate an entire forest in search of the right
    "grip".
    
    Mark.
74.209Woodies for hardball, metal else.USRCV1::COLOTTIRIm Bart Simpson,who the hell r u?Thu Apr 05 1990 18:556
    Not too many people use woodies for softball(s). See, they got
    no "jump" in 'em. Only wussy little girly-mons use wood fer
    softball. Know why? Cause they caint hit anyway!!! Softballs hit
    with wood go "pfft", and drop just behind the pitchers mound. 
    				Rich
    
74.210COMET::JOHNSTONnamby-pamby bedwetting WHAT?!!?Thu Apr 05 1990 18:5622
Hi H`awk,

	Some youth leagues do not allow wooden bats ( I think because of the
possibility of the bat breaking and injuring someone. )

	For T-Ball, they'd probably let him use a softball bat. No league I've
ever heard of will let you use a hardball bat in softball. Maybe you could
settle for a softball bat for both for this year, and pick up a hardball bat
nexted year (if he still wants to play).

	I'd recommend when you get the bat, take the kids along, let `em swing
it, and watch them. Fathers especially like to get their kids a bat that is
more on the heavy side. It has been my experience that bat speed is a much
bigger factor than weight in determining how far they'll be able to hit the
ball. Get something that they can really snap around, and they'll be much
better hitters.

Mike JN

PS - if you're going aluminum... I always liked the BOMBAT. FAT on the end,
with a skinny little handle. You can really snap that sucker around. By the
time bat meets ball, it's moving near the speed of light.
74.211RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOG.H.C.C - Home of the Chokers!Thu Apr 05 1990 20:4219
    Hurumph - wood is the only way to go - no matter what you are playing.
    Aluminum gives unnatural power to softball - massaging the egos
    fo those who caint hit with a real bat.   Why not just make the
    ball out of superball material, uses aluminum bats, and hit the
    ball a few hunred yards every time.  
    
    A bat comes from wood which was once alive - that's what makes it
    special.  An aluminum bat comes from stuff dug outta the ground,
    processed, molded and painted unsightly colors.  A commie plot,
    aluminum bats are.  A commie plot.
    
    "If wood bats are outlawed, only outlaws will have aluminum bats!"
    
    The aluminum bat is worse than astroturf, worse than the Designated
    Gimmick (tm), worse than domed stadiums, worse than Brent Mussburger!!
    
    Be real, be natural - wood, reall bats for real people!
    
    JD
74.212SASE::SZABOFri Apr 06 1990 10:519
74.213CAM::WAYOutfielder in the BourbonFri Apr 06 1990 10:5128
Re Wrasslemania:

	Brutus the Barber tarnished Mr Perfect's "Perfect" record
	Demolotion regained the Tag Team strap as the Colostomy
		Connection bit the big one.  Andre and Heenan had
		a big fight and Andre turned good.
	Ultimate Warrior beat Hogan cleanly and is no the IC and world
		champ


Re Lufay's idea:

	Yes, I agree wholeheartedly.  Why, one time, I was out looking
	for a woodie, and lightening hit this tree, then nexted thing
	you know I was usin' my Stihl to shape me a woodie.  Then,
	I took it home and wif my Acme Woodburning Set I burnt me
	a lightenin' bolt into the handle.  Nexted thing you know
	I wuz hittin' em' like there was no tomorrow, but *naturally*
	that's another story....

Re Cranium Crackin':

	Louisville Sluggers are the only bat Chainsaw Approved for
	Cranium Crackin....


HTH
'Saw
74.214GENRAL::WADEone more radar lover gone!Fri Apr 06 1990 14:498
    Hulkster got beat?  My whole world has just come crashing down <sniff>
    
    Whaddya mean unnatural Sarge?  Let's see, trees come from the ground
    and they make wood bats out of them.  Aluminuminuminuminum comes from
    the ground, and they make aluminum bats out of it.  What's the diff?
    I suppose you drink beer out of wooden cans too eh?
    
    Claybone_the_ego_massagin'_softballin'_aluminum_bigot   8-)
74.215Ol' Glory, the Louisville Slugger, Yorktown...RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOWood: Real Bats for Real People!Fri Apr 06 1990 14:5713
    Clay,
    
    Beer hasn't been the same since they replaced the ol' wooden keg
    wif the aluminum one, giving us such tasty brews as Meister Brau!
    
    A tree is a tree is an embodiment of life and soul and nature.
    Aluminum is an embodiment of a mechanized, pollution filled, communis'
    society!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    Wooden bats, wooden bats, everyone, wooden bats, wooden bats!!!
    wooden bats!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    JD
74.216COMET::JOHNSTONnamby-pamby bedwetting WHAT?!!?Fri Apr 06 1990 15:0314
H`onk

	uh... I mean H`awk.

	Now I know why they call you the great communicator!

	If you're just getting the damned bat for yourself... Why are you
asking all these dumb questions!!!!!!!

	Wood... Louisville Slugger... 34 or 36 inch.... No contest!

PS - Make the little Hawksters get in FRONT of the ball!

Mike JN
74.217GENRAL::WADEMymamadon'tallownowoodenbatsinhere!Fri Apr 06 1990 15:4322
    JD (McCarthy),
    
    You remember beer out of a wooden keg huh?  You're much older
    than I thought!
    
    True, true, I think that I shall never see....But, the use of
    aluminum for bats has saved many of our beloved trees from being
    massacred just so that you can enjoy your precious *fwoppy* noise
    when you hit a softball.  Besides, it took GOOD OLE 'MERICAN
    KNOW-HOW AND INJUNUITY to develop aluminum for use in bats, beer
    cans, and beer kegs.  What could drip with red, white, and blue
    pride more than that I ask ye.  So there, aluminum is not a commie
    plot Joe, er, I mean JD.  It is a shining eggzample of what this
    great nation stands for!  Not only that, but it is recyclable.
    You can't replace trees.  I shudder to think that many helpless,
    big brown-eyed, cute, animal babies lose their homes to the logging
    industry.  The tree murderers....the home wreckers!
    
    SAVE OUR TREES!  SAVE OUR TREES!  SAVE OUR TREES! (eat a beaver, heh
    heh)
    
    Claybone
74.218I'm leanin' towrds a woodie! :-) SASE::SZABOFri Apr 06 1990 16:227
74.219LEVERS::STROUTfive to one... one in fiveFri Apr 06 1990 16:2713
74.220PFSVAX::JACOBReal Men don't use AluminumFri Apr 06 1990 16:3012
    >>  Hulkster got beat?  My whole world has just come crashing down <sniff>
    
    
    Don't cry Claybone.  Read today that the Hulkster IS NOT retiring.
    
    What that means is that the WWF's Hair-Brained Scheme Committee is hard
    at work on Wrasslemaniacs V and they'll choreograph Hulk back to the
    champeenship then.
    
    
    JaKe
    
74.221"The hair! Don't touch the hair!"SASE::SZABOFri Apr 06 1990 16:321
    
74.222you missed 2 dude!LEVERS::STROUTfive to one... one in fiveFri Apr 06 1990 16:324
    
    	Jake, make that Wrestlemania VII!!  GET WITH THE POGRAM! 8^)
    
    sean
74.223An so it goes...BUILD::MORGANFri Apr 06 1990 16:358
    Re: HULK
    
    Supposedly, the word was out last Thursday that the HULK was going to
    take the pipe against the WARRIOR because his wife is ready to deliver
    a baby, and he's got some type of business commitments.  He'll be back
    in a month or so.
    
    					Steve
74.224PFSVAX::JACOBReal Men don't use AluminumFri Apr 06 1990 16:3613
    Re.222
    
    B*tch B*tch B*tch
    
    Been in classes all week and the Bass Ale is getting to what little of
    my brain is left.  Need to get back home and clear the cobwebs with
    some good old Iron City.
    
    Sorry
    
    JaKe_who_lost_trak_of_wrasslemaniac_roman_numerals_beers_ago
    
    
74.225This caint be gospel!!!FTMUDG::REEDOklaSt--#29 NCAA Wrestling ChampionshipFri Apr 06 1990 16:4311
   >  Don't cry Claybone.  Read today that the Hulkster IS NOT retiring.
    
    That caint be right!  The National Enquirer (or similar rag) had
    printed right on the front page that he is retiring to become a
    TV PREACHER.  If we caint trust the written word we are lost soles
    doomed to hover at high altitudes until this has become fack!  Surely
    the Reverend Hulk won't keep us aloft.
    
    Get yur checkbooks out and on yo knees bro's
    
    Brother Cowboy
74.226RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOWood: Real Bats for Real People!Fri Apr 06 1990 17:5518
    Now Brother Clay - remember, up in the Spacific Norfwest, Timber
    is king, and while I'll fight to preserve our old growth, wood bats
    are much more American than Aluminum.   Wooden bats don't litter,
    aluminum cans do!@!!  
    
    I love trees I love wood I love America and Motherhood
    Bats stand for AMerica, Wooden bats that is, or course
    To use an aluminum bat is the cause for much remorse
    The manly crack of the bat is what we want to hear!
    While sitting in the son, with hotdogs and beer
    The aluminum bat - with it's wimpy 'ping'
    Is a kind of immoral blight on the American thing! 
    Yes, save a tree, but not to make aluminum the king
    For aluminum is for siding, not for the sport of homers and sliding
    So in thine quest for the perfect bat
    Remember, wood is where it is at.
    
    JD
74.227PFSVAX::JACOBReal Men don't use AluminumFri Apr 06 1990 18:0316
    re.225
    
    Cmon, if you believe those moronic rags, you must also believe that the
    wrasslin dun by the bozos in the WWF isn't all choreographed and set-up
    way in advance and FAKE, and I've got some oceanfront property in
    Oklahomee to sell yee.
    
    JaKe
    
    P.S.  What would the Hulksters way of getting people to give him $$$
    be??  
    
    Hulk:  "Either send me money or I'll beat theSLOF out of you
    pipsqueak!!"
    
    
74.228FTMUDG::REEDOklaSt--#29 NCAA Wrestling ChampionshipFri Apr 06 1990 18:0610
    re:-1
    That was reeeal nice JD.  I don't see the problem with using
    the trees.  They're our only *renewable natural resource*, right?
    As long as they're not abused and replaced with seedlings then
    what's the problem?
    
    An owner of 3 *plastic* bats
    
    Cowboy
    
74.229SASE::SZABOFri Apr 06 1990 18:1713
74.230FTMUDG::REEDOklaSt--#29 NCAA Wrestling ChampionshipFri Apr 06 1990 18:1916
    > Cmon, if you believe those moronic rags, you must also believe that the
    > wrasslin dun by the bozos in the WWF isn't all choreographed and set-up
    > way in advance and FAKE, and I've got some oceanfront property in
    > Oklahomee to sell yee.
    
    
    Because of how those bozos can get a crowd fired up is why Hulk
    could really rake in the $$$ as a TV preacher.  He already has
    a following.  All he has to do is tell em to open up their hearts
    dump out their pockets.
    
    As to oceanfront property in Oklahoma--aint no way I'd put out $$
    for it.  Oklahoma mountain property, maybe.
    
    Cowboy
    
74.231You mean rasslin' isn't real?GENRAL::WADEMymamadon'tallownowoodenbatsinhere!Fri Apr 06 1990 18:271
    
74.232PFSVAX::JACOBReal Men don't use AluminumFri Apr 06 1990 18:307
    re.231
    
    Are YOU interested in some ocean front property in either Oklahomee or
    Colorado?????????????????????????
    
    JaKe
    
74.233MCIS1::DHAMELFargenuppagainFri Apr 06 1990 18:3411
    
    re: .226
    
    I think that I shall never see
    A poem as lovely 'bout bats from trees.
    
    That poem warms the cockles of my heart, and if there's one thing
    I can't stand, it's cold cockles.
    
    -Dick
    
74.234Food for thoughtSHALOT::HUNTA single ping please, Vasily.Fri Apr 06 1990 18:377
    Professional wrestling is the only *truly* honest sport there is.
    
    Professional wrestling has *never* had a dishonesty scandal.
    
    Think about it.
    
    Bob Hunt
74.235SASE::SZABOFri Apr 06 1990 18:381
    
74.236PFSVAX::JACOBReal Men don't use AluminumFri Apr 06 1990 19:148
    Re wraslin bean the only tru "honest"sport
    
    how can you have scandals and claims of "fix" when the whole thing is
    rigged from the start anyway.
    
    JaKe
    
    
74.237GENRAL::WADEAluminum roolz!Fri Apr 06 1990 19:2521
    Esteemed poet JD,
    
    	I thought the only thing that was *king* in the nw was salmon?
    
    	Anyhoo, aluminum cans don't litter, people litter!  But, does
    	this mean we should penalize the vast majority of law abidin'
    	citizens because of the very few who abuse the scenic beauty
    	of our U.S. of A.?  I think not!
    
    	I would just bet you that ole Abner Doubleday hissef would have
    	chosen aluminum over wood for performance reasons.  Pop into
    	the 20th century dude!  If you had it your way, we'd still be
    	using those original baseballs that were the equivalent of a
    	miniature bean bag.  This country is great today because of our
    	technological prowess.  The aluminum bat is a shining example of
    	our ability to further technology and simultaneously live in 
    	harmony with nature by not ravaging our beautiful forests.
    
    Yours in brotherhood,
    
    Claybone
74.238Didn't think I had to explain ...SHALOT::HUNTA single ping please, Vasily.Fri Apr 06 1990 19:4321
74.239DECXPS::TIMMONSI'm a Pepere!Mon Apr 09 1990 09:1422
    Gotta agree with you on this one, JD.  Nuttin like a wood bat. 
    I got fond memories of my first bat, an Adirondack.  My Dad bought
    it for me, and off I went to play ball.  Guess I was 8 or 9 or
    somethin.
    
    Anyway, he had taught be how to hold the bat so that I wouldn't
    break it.  First game ever, just a pick-up game, and a bigger kid
    wanted to use my bat.  I let him, and damn if that jerk didn't crack
    it!!!  I was heartbroken.  Dad got out his drill, screwdriver and
    black tape.  Fixed it up pretty good, and I NEVER EVER loaned that
    bat to anyone.  Used it for a long time, until I outgrew it.
    
    Hawk, there's an article in Yankee magazine about a guy who makes
    custom wooded bats.  Tell him what model that you want, he has over
    300 masters, and he'll turn it out on his lathe.  Even brand your
    name in it for a few more bucks.
    
    America, America, God shed his grace on thee,
    And crown thy good with brotherhood, 
    from tree to shining tree.
    
    Lee
74.240CAM::WAYInto the breach!Mon Apr 09 1990 10:1628
The neat thing about wood is that it interacts with you as a player.

Over time, as you handle a wood bat, perhaps rubbing it down with
a bone as Yaz did, or just the everyday picking it up, handling it,
putting it down, the oils from your hands, the true sweat of an
honest day's labor, and the almost loving caress of knowledgable
hands on a baseball bat, leave their mark.

A new bat is almost like a new love.  It's virginal, but over time
becomes shaped to your needs, an extension of your person.

Hitting a round ball with a curved object (and not the paddle used
in cricket) is arguablly one of the hardest things to do in all of
sport.

Approaching the plate, late in the game, runners on first and second,
two out, down by one, late in the season, chasing the pennant, you
step to the plate.  The sure feel of the bat in your hands gives you
confidence and calm.  As the warm embrace of a lover often calms the
cares and worries of a trying day, so the well worn wood of the bat brings
peace.   At that point there are but two men existing in the Universe,
and the most primal, and basic, of all human conflicts turns in the
myriad movements of its dance.

Armed not with a cutlass, but rather a baseball bat, the warrior waits,
confident in his weapon...

That is something no aluminum bat could ever do....
74.241sniff sniffPFSVAX::JACOBReal Men don't use AluminumMon Apr 09 1990 11:0812
    >> A new bat is almost like a new love.  It's virginal, but over time
    >>  becomes shaped to your needs, an extension of your person.
    
    
    Cmon 'Saw,
    
    That's so beautiful, Ya got me crying at my terminal.
    
    Sniff, Sniff
    
    JaKe
    
74.242SASE::SZABOMon Apr 09 1990 11:104
74.243aluminum roolz!GENRAL::WADEAluminum roolz!Mon Apr 09 1990 12:299
    Hey C-saw,
    
    
    
    		PUT SOME SYRUP ON THAT WHILE YOU'RE AT IT!
    
    	Geez, I'm gonna get a cavity just reading that....;^)
    
    Claybone
74.244Dat wuz real purty, 'SawMCIS1::DHAMELAmazon Women Moon the MenMon Apr 09 1990 12:346
    
    Aw, c'mon, C'bone, that was poetic and bootiful.  Nothing like waxing
    eloquent while rubbing down your woodie with pine tar.
    
    -Dick
    
74.245PFSVAX::JACOBWho's afraid of the big bad WOOD?Mon Apr 09 1990 12:535
    The only thing Alimuniminuminuminuminum proponents know how to wax is
    their carrot.
    
    JaKe
    
74.246Not a problem, just curiousFSHQA2::JHENDRYJohn Hendry, DTN 292-2170Mon Apr 09 1990 13:033
    Are PHILEM::SAPP (Edwin) and BAUCIS::SAPP (O_J) the same person?
    
    John
74.247GENRAL::WADEAluminum roolz!Mon Apr 09 1990 13:4112
    Now, now.  Do I need to splain the dangers of rubbing pine tar
    on your woodies?  I didn't think so.....
    
    You fellas are correct that aluminum has no place in major league
    BASEBALL.  But softball is a different story.  We had no choice
    but to use aluminum cuz they moved the fences back on us and
    started using restricted flight balls.  You try hitting a flippin'
    bean bag 300' with a steeeeeenking wood bat.  Talk about a commie
    plot!  They are trying to take away the thrill of the home run
    from us!
    
    The Whammer
74.24815436::LEFEBVREYou gotta get in to get outMon Apr 09 1990 14:408
    < Note 74.244 by MCIS1::DHAMEL "Amazon Women Moon the Men" >
    
>    Aw, c'mon, C'bone, that was poetic and bootiful.  Nothing like waxing
>    eloquent while rubbing down your woodie with pine tar.

    Note of the year...fer sure.
    
    Mark.
74.249CAM::WAYInto the breach!Mon Apr 09 1990 15:0911
Guys, guys...

If you must know, I'm just honing my skills....  You see, I've 
always wanted to work for Sports Illustrated as a photographer.
But, since they have no openings, I took another course of action.

I'm auditioning as a sports writer, and decided I'd practice on you all...

Wait till I get rolling....

'Saw
74.251CAM::WAYWill you yield, and this avoid?Tue Apr 17 1990 12:1317
74.252The categories were hilarious15436::LEFEBVREHaving a Maalox momentTue Apr 17 1990 14:5213
    Way funny, Frank.
    
    Will: "The aura of a hot August night when opposing pitchers duel
           in a defensive struggle is not unlike...
    
    	   a: The nape of a women's bare neck, partially covered in
    	      silk,
    	   b: The sound of crashing waves on a deserted beach, or
    	   c: The caress of a warm breeze after a rain shower."
    
    Lasorda: "Hey, I thought this was a baseball contest!!"
    
    Mark.
74.253CAM::WAYWill you yield, and this avoid?Tue Apr 17 1990 15:161
"Piffle, or not piffle?"  8^)
74.254COMET::MONTGOMERYI'm the NRATue Apr 17 1990 15:511
Piffle!!!
74.255COMET::MONTGOMERYT=Dr PiffleTue Apr 17 1990 15:532

74.256Still dunno why wood bats are not laquered on the handle.....SASE::SZABOFreakin' Lunatics Club CardholderWed Apr 25 1990 15:5012
74.257CAM::WAYCumberland Mountain #9Wed Apr 25 1990 16:0641
Hawk, hope this helps:


Team Name  (Nickname)		Uniforms		Stadium/Arena

Washington Bullets		White, Red & Blue	Capital Centre
Utah Jazz			Purple, Green, Gold
				and White		The Salt Palace
Seattle Supersonics (Sonics)	Green, White & Gold	Seattle Coliseum
San Antonio Spurs		Black & White		Hemisfair Arena???
Sacramento Kings		Carolina Blue & White	Arco Arena
Portland Trail Blazers		Black, Red & White	Veterans Coliseum
Phoenix Suns			Purple, Orange & White	Veterans Coliseum
Philadelphia 76ers		Blue, Red & White	The Spectrum
Orlando Magic			Black, Blue and White	Orlando Arena
New York Knickerbockers		Orange, Blue and White	Madison Square Garden
New Jersey Nets (Exit 16W Nets) Blue, Red, White	Byrne Meadowlands Arena
Minnesota Timberwolves (Wolves) Blue & Green		HHH MetroDome (Moving to
							a new arena nexted year)
Milwaukee Bucks			Green & White?? 	Bradley Events Center
Miami Heat			Black & Red		Miami Arena
LA Lakers			Purple & Gold		The Forum
LA Clippers			Red, Blue & White	LA Sports Arena
Indiana Pacers			Blue, Gold & White	Market Square Arena
Houston Rockets			Red, Gold & White	The Summit 
Golden State Warriors		White, Blue & Gold??	Oakland Coliseum Arena
Detroit Pistons			Red, White & Blue	The Palace at Auburn
							Hills
Denver Nuggets			Too Many colors	????	McNichols Arena
				Shows City with
				Mountains behind
Dallas Mavericks (Mavs)		Green, Blue, White	Reunion Arena
Cleveland Cavaliers (CAVS)      Orange, Blue, White	The Richfield Coliseum
Chicago Bulls			Red & Black		Chicago Stadium (I beleive)
Charlotte Hornets		Teal Blue, White,	Charlotte Coliseum
				Purple
Boston Celtics			Green & White		Boston Garden
Atlanta	Hawks			Red, Gold, White	The Omni
    


74.258oh, and put that in alphabetical orderLEVERS::STROUTchew electric death!!!! - spiffWed Apr 25 1990 16:123
    	'Saw, could you please include starting line ups for the 1978-79
    season including full stats of the third leading scorer for each
    team?  thanks in advance.
74.259Use a Woody!CAM::WAYCumberland Mountain #9Wed Apr 25 1990 16:168
Sure, should I include the Standard Deviation of all the
stats for triple doubles from that year, or just the line ups
and third leading scorer stats....

Could someone please tell me why my beer can is only laquered halfway
down the label?

'Saw
74.260TURKEY::J_HALPINWed Apr 25 1990 16:175

	And start using Change Bars, will you 'saw!!!!! :-)

JimH
74.261CAM::WAYCumberland Mountain #9Wed Apr 25 1990 16:573
Bars?  Did someone mention bars?  Where, when, how?

Actually, I prefer bullets.  They're more manly....
74.262Best I can do on the NuggetsDEC25::MCFALLWe got a hot crustacean band!Wed Apr 25 1990 17:1438
Team Name  (Nickname)		Uniforms		Stadium/Arena

Washington Bullets		White, Red & Blue	Capital Centre
Utah Jazz			Purple, Green, Gold
				and White		The Salt Palace
Seattle Supersonics (Sonics)	Green, White & Gold	Seattle Coliseum
San Antonio Spurs		Black & White		Hemisfair Arena???
Sacramento Kings		Carolina Blue & White	Arco Arena
Portland Trail Blazers		Black, Red & White	Veterans Coliseum
Phoenix Suns			Purple, Orange & White	Veterans Coliseum
Philadelphia 76ers		Blue, Red & White	The Spectrum
Orlando Magic			Black, Blue and White	Orlando Arena
New York Knickerbockers		Orange, Blue and White	Madison Square Garden
New Jersey Nets (Exit 16W Nets) Blue, Red, White	Byrne Meadowlands Arena
Minnesota Timberwolves (Wolves) Blue & Green		HHH MetroDome (Moving to
							a new arena nexted year)
Milwaukee Bucks			Green & White?? 	Bradley Events Center
Miami Heat			Black & Red		Miami Arena
LA Lakers			Purple & Gold		The Forum
LA Clippers			Red, Blue & White	LA Sports Arena
Indiana Pacers			Blue, Gold & White	Market Square Arena
Houston Rockets			Red, Gold & White	The Summit 
Golden State Warriors		White, Blue & Gold??	Oakland Coliseum Arena
Detroit Pistons			Red, White & Blue	The Palace at Auburn
							Hills
Denver Nuggets			Blue with Graphic of	McNichols Arena
				City Skyline (black)
				with Mountains behind
				(white), with one Red
				and one Yellow stripe
				above the Mountains.
Dallas Mavericks (Mavs)		Green, Blue, White	Reunion Arena
Cleveland Cavaliers (CAVS)      Orange, Blue, White	The Richfield Coliseum
Chicago Bulls			Red & Black		Chicago Stadium (I beleive)
Charlotte Hornets		Teal Blue, White,	Charlotte Coliseum
				Purple
Boston Celtics			Green & White		Boston Garden
Atlanta	Hawks			Red, Gold, White	The Omni
74.263UPWARD::HEISERMr. Potato Head Groove ThingWed Apr 25 1990 20:576
    Is SPORTS going to jump on the bandwagon and produce a Photo Album like
    some of the other conferences are doing?
    
    Then we can find out the truth about Monty and Hoot being bikers!
    
    Mike
74.264intrigueAUNTB::HAASsame as talking to youWed Apr 25 1990 21:084
And we can find out if it's true what Dr Midnight says about MrT's butt
being bigger than JR's.

TTom
74.265Seeking Merrimack directions infoSTAR::YANKOWSKASPaul YankowskasThu Apr 26 1990 11:019
    Could one of the Merrimack College noters tell me which buiding on the 
    campus is the Volpe Sports Complex?  (My wife and I are going there for
    an Army Band concert tonight.)  I'd be approaching Merrimack on route
    114, passing the campus on my right -- where should I turn off, and
    what would be the best place to park?
    
    
    Thanks,
    Paul
74.266MCIS1::DHAMELPress the button, pull the chain...Thu Apr 26 1990 11:248
    
    The entrance off Rte 114 would be the closest entrance to the Sports
    Center.  Even if you take the wrong entrance, the campus isn't very
    big anyway and I'm sure you'll have no problem finding it. Everything
    on campus is within walking distance of everything else.
    
    -Dickster
    
74.267SASE::SZABOFreakin' Lunatics Club CardholderThu Apr 26 1990 11:2912
74.268thanks!STAR::YANKOWSKASPaul YankowskasThu Apr 26 1990 11:341
    
74.269a photo album would be kool.LEVERS::STROUTchew electric death!!!! - spiffThu Apr 26 1990 12:010
74.270or kweer...CAM::WAYA fool's bolt is soon shotThu Apr 26 1990 12:082

74.272America's Funniest Notes AlbumsSASE::SZABOFreakin' Lunatics Club CardholderThu Apr 26 1990 12:188
74.2737983::RIEUStanley, won't you please come home!Thu Apr 26 1990 12:215
       What do we do, all make copies of the pictures on our badges? No
    thanx!
       Jim Bob sent those pictures out Hawk. I 'filed' my copy when I found
    out it was a fake. 
                                           Denny
74.274GENRAL::WADEonly weenies use compose characters!Thu Apr 26 1990 12:384
    Hoot ain't no biker..............he drives one of them rice_burners!
    Monty rides on back and squawks "Donks suck, Donks suck!".
    
    Claybone  ;^)
74.275GENRAL::WADEonly weenies use compose characters!Thu Apr 26 1990 12:507
    I gots a question!  
    
    What does the "A" stand for on a hockey player's uniform.  I think
    I know what the "C" stands for (captain?), but could never figure
    out what the A is for.........
    
    Claybone
74.276go canada go!SHIRE::FINEUC1Thu Apr 26 1990 12:549
Claybone,

The A means that that sucker is an Alternate Captain.

Means that he can scream at the ref if the Captain ain't on the ice.

rick

go you canadian buggers beat those ruskies tonight!!!
74.277LEVERS::STROUTchew electric death!!!! - spiffThu Apr 26 1990 12:551
    	A = Alternate Captain.
74.278Some conferences could have great photo albums...CAM::WAYA fool's bolt is soon shotThu Apr 26 1990 13:2810
I drive a riceburner and love it, but my dream is to have a 
Harley in my stable too!

Actually, I'd love to see a photo album from one conference in
particular -- that Naturalism conference.  No darts there 8^)

And you don't need a photo album to see what I look like.
Just pick up any Alabama LP and look at the cover....

Chainsaw
74.279MCIS1::DHAMELPress the button, pull the chain...Thu Apr 26 1990 13:327
    
    re: .275
    
      If the "A" on the uniform is red, it means he's a_Adulterer.
    
    Dickster
    
74.280CAM::WAYA fool's bolt is soon shotThu Apr 26 1990 13:371
Hester'll love ya fer that one, -Dickster....
74.281LEVERS::STROUTchew electric death!!!! - spiffThu Apr 26 1990 13:591
    	So 'Saw, which Bama dude are you anyways????
74.282UPWARD::HEISERMr. Potato Head Groove ThingThu Apr 26 1990 14:264
    Re: Bama dude
    
    He's the ugly one.
    
74.283LEVERS::STROUTchew electric death!!!! - spiffThu Apr 26 1990 14:351
    	The bearded wonder?  (or are they all bearde??)  8^)
74.284Randy or Teddy....CAM::WAYA fool's bolt is soon shotThu Apr 26 1990 15:338
Well, people tell me that I look like Randy Owen, but I think I look
more like Teddy Gentry.  Either way, take your pick of the two dudes
with dark hair....

And to you Mike Heiser:  Fie on you, Fie on you!

So there,
'Saw
74.285LEVERS::STROUTchew electric death!!!! - spiffThu Apr 26 1990 15:364
    	yeah 'Saw, but can you sing "Mountain Music" and do the appropriate
    foot tapping and hand clapping???
    
    	enquiring minds gotta know!
74.286CAM::WAYA fool's bolt is soon shotThu Apr 26 1990 15:448
I am a man of many talents.  That I can do, yes.  In addition I
do a pretty good job of background vocals also.  I just can't sing
heavy metal lead stuff...(all the whisky in the world can't get my
range that high)...

Actually, I just wish I had Randy's money!

'Saw
74.287SASE::SZABOFreakin' Lunatics Club CardholderThu Apr 26 1990 15:536
74.288LEVERS::STROUTchew electric death!!!! - spiffThu Apr 26 1990 16:021
    	What's laquered mean anyways?  thanks.
74.289CAM::WAYA fool's bolt is soon shotThu Apr 26 1990 16:137
Laquer...the way a southern guy says he adores a member of the opposite
sex.

	So anyways, this Suzie Mae, well I laquer...

Hope this helps,
'Saw
74.290LEVERS::STROUTchew electric death!!!! - spiffThu Apr 26 1990 16:162
    	so what does laquer have to do with only being on the top part
    of a beer can??
74.291LEVERS::STROUTchew electric death!!!! - spiffThu Apr 26 1990 16:171
    	oh, forgot to say it.  thanks in advance.
74.292UPWARD::HEISERMr. Potato Head Groove ThingThu Apr 26 1990 16:184
    'Saw, do you wear those pointed toe boots too for killing roaches in
    the corners?
    
    Mike
74.293GENRAL::WADEonly weenies use compose characters!Thu Apr 26 1990 16:2710
    Thanks for the information on "A".  Now tell me...aren't there 3
    lines on a hockey team.  If so, then you have 1-C and 2-As right?
    You see, I don't know that much about hockey but I love to watch it.
    If I don't appear well informed while watching it on the tube, my
    wife will say "Why are you watching a stoopid game you don't know
    nuttin' about?".
    
    Thanks for saving Clay from watching Cosby reruns,
    
    Claybone
74.294CAM::WAYA fool's bolt is soon shotThu Apr 26 1990 16:2820
I've been known to.

Actually, I started wearing them because they are a) comfortable,
b) I like boots, and c) the occasions that I've gone riding they're
perfect for doing that...they fit in the stirrups right, and that's
what they were designed for to begin wif....

We don't have roaches where I live.  Instead, we have a lot of mice
(outside in the summer, inside in the winter)  and woodchucks.

The woodchucks I shoot, the mice I ignore (althought the wolf loves
to catch em) and any other critters I leave to the wolf.

Inside, I use golf clubs on the mice ;^)


And Sean, I don't know about your can, but mine don't have no laquer...;^)

Hope this helps, in advance...
'Saw
74.295LEVERS::STROUTchew electric death!!!! - spiffThu Apr 26 1990 16:322
	Nexted question Saw.  Why is Harfaa called the insurance capital
    of the world????  thanks in advance, dude.
74.296CAM::WAYA fool's bolt is soon shotThu Apr 26 1990 16:3418
Claybone --

I'm sketchy on this, and I don't have my rule book here, but here's
what I remember.

I believe a team can have 1 C and up to three A's.  The only rule
is that there must be either a C or an A on the ice at any
given time, but there is no restriction like if a C is on, no A
can be on.  Also, no goalie can be an A or a C.

That's as much as I remember.

And an A or C cant' really yell at the ref, since they are as susceptible
as anyone to a misconduct.  They are allowed to discuss things, and
to ask the ref for interpretation etc.

If any of this is incorrect, please feel free...
'Saw
74.297LEVERS::STROUTchew electric death!!!! - spiffThu Apr 26 1990 16:435
>I believe a team can have 1 C and up to three A's.  The only rule
 
    	Does that mean they make the Dean's list???
    
    <THUMP>   
74.298CAM::WAYA fool's bolt is soon shotThu Apr 26 1990 16:4432
Sean --

(Gawd, I feel like I'm on Sixty Minutes here...)

Hartford is called the Insurance Capitol of the World, because
a lot of the major insurance companies have their home offices
here.  The GHO Golf Tournament started out as the ICO (Insurance
City Open).

Other things that Hartford is known for is the fact that as the
seat of Connecticut government, it's charter was one of the first
to espouse some of the tenets that are in our Bill of Rights.
(I'm sketchy on that, since it's been a while since I studied that
stuff).

Also, Hartford is the home of Colt Firearms.  Their factory, with
the Blue Onion dome is a reknowned landmark.

Hartford was the home of Mark Twain and Harriet Beecher Stowe, both
extremely influential people in America in their time.  If you ever
are in Hartford I highly recommend the tour of their homes, as
it is a very interesting and informative experience.

Plus, Hartford will soon be the home of the tallest building in
New England...


If anyone ever wants to come down, and take a walking tour of Hartford,
I'd be glad to function as guide.  Afterwards, we'll stop at a couple
of good places to sample some beers...  Just let me know...

Chainsaw
74.299COMET::MONTGOMERYLe Lo ElwayThu Apr 26 1990 16:4611
>    Hoot ain't no biker..............he drives one of them rice_burners!
>    Monty rides on back and squawks "Donks suck, Donks suck!".
    
 Funny Claybone!!!  Hoot does ride Rice but Monty Rides Real Steel!!!
 I ride the best a Harley!!!!!! 

Monty




74.300GENRAL::GIBSONThu Apr 26 1990 17:487
    
    Hah! Where do you think that steel came from? To the best of my
    knowledge there aren't any steel mills operating in the USofA any
    more. I tell ya what. I wouldn't trade my Yamaha Special for that
    900 piece of sheet Harley came out with a couple of years ago. Do 
    they still make that over-priced bucket of bolts? Was anyone stupid
    enough to buy it?
74.301COMET::MONTGOMERYLe Lo ElwayThu Apr 26 1990 18:0423
    
>    Hah! Where do you think that steel came from? To the best of my
   
     Piitsburgh?? Weirtown? Allentown? Circleville?
     I don't know....
    
>    more. I tell ya what. I wouldn't trade my Yamaha Special for that
>    900 piece of sheet Harley came out with a couple of years ago. Do 

    Hoot they make many other size bikes that would make that Yam seem
	like a tricycle!!!

 >   they still make that over-priced bucket of bolts? Was anyone stupid
 >   enough to buy it?

  resale value of any Harley is more than any rice.. As soon as you take rice
  off the floor the value drops almost in half...
  Yes, several thousand people!!!

 Bitt Boww!!!!

Monty

74.302LEVERS::STROUTchew electric death!!!! - spiffThu Apr 26 1990 18:115
    	Mr. 'Saw, thank you for clearing all those question up.  You
    may take your seat now.
    
    	About that walk... did you mention beer??? 8^)  How far is Harfaa
    from heaa anyways?
74.303CAM::WAYA fool's bolt is soon shotThu Apr 26 1990 18:2121
Okay, Sean, where ya at?

Harfaa is about two hours from Boston.  From my house I can make
it to Boston in 1:45, make it to Nashua in 2:15 or so...

Beer is always included in anything I do....;^)


re Harley and rice...

As with anything else in this world that's different, both have
good points and bad points.  I love nothing better than the
whine of my Ninja winding up as I pull power on coming out of
a curve.  But, there is a lot to be said for the throaty sound
of a Harley.

As I previously mentioned, if I had the money for more toys, there'd
be a Harley in my stable too.

latered,
'Saw
74.304SASE::SZABOFreakin' Lunatics Club CardholderThu Apr 26 1990 18:335
74.305LEVERS::STROUTchew electric death!!!! - spiffThu Apr 26 1990 18:375
    	'Saw... 2 hours, huh?  Ok, zounds like a good idea.  Never been
    to Harfaa..  (Drove through Milfaa on my way to Floridaa once).
    My friend lives in Wallyworld, CT.  Do you know where that is?
    
    Oh by the way, do I have to be 21 for this???  (small nit..) 8^)
74.306GENRAL::GIBSONThu Apr 26 1990 18:3713
    
    Monty,
    The steel more than likely comes from Japan. There are no major steel
    mills still operating in the United States. You know I didn't buy my
    bike off the show room floor. I could easily get at least what I paid
    for it, now. Yahama, Honda etc. make bikes that make your Sportster
    look like a tricycle, too. I like Harley's too, but they hardly have
    the market cornered on quality motorcycles. Do you remember that trash
    they were producing when AMF owned them? They venture into the racing
    circles now and then but can't compete.
    
                                                   HOOT
    
74.307GENRAL::GIBSONThu Apr 26 1990 18:394
    
    Hawk,
    Close, '79 750 Special, mint condition. The 3 cylinder, shaft drive
    unit.
74.308HD roolz!GENRAL::WADEonly weenies use compose characters!Thu Apr 26 1990 19:1110
    Ha!  I got Hoot and Monty to have a LDUC.  I proclaim myself
    noter of the year!
    
    I used to own a '79 Lowrider.  I loved it! <sniff, sniff>  Gawd
    I miss my bike on these bluebird Colorado days.
    
    Thanks Chainsaw.........I give you an A+ for the info...or would
    you prefer a C?
    
    Claybone
74.309UPWARD::HEISERMr. Potato Head Groove ThingThu Apr 26 1990 19:221
    Harley's are great when they're running, which isn't very often! ;-)
74.310ayupSUBSYS::GROETZINGERTom at DTN 291-7367 NKS1-2/H6Fri Apr 27 1990 00:379
    OK, now , guys,...
    remember- motorcycles are like women and guns...
    there are only two kinds...
    
    GOOD AND BETTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
    
    
    
    			Happy riding,    Tom
74.311C's and A'sSHIRE::FINEUC1Fri Apr 27 1990 06:2727
       
Re  Cs and As

Claybone

I don't have a rule book anywhere, but as I recall a team can have a maximum
of 4 players altogether - Captaincy is optional.  In fack I remember the
Orr/Esposito Bruins had 4 alternates and no captain at all at one time.
I think that Bucyk suggested that he give up his Captaincy so that he, Orr,
Espo, and ??? could all be Alternates.

I don't think it is a rule, 'Saw, that either a C or an A has to be on the
ice at any time, but if there isn't one, the team would not have a 
representative in the event of an important dispute.

I thought that a goalie can be a C or A, but maybe that's an old one that has
since been changed.  Seems to me that once upon a time there was a goalie who
was Captain, but I don't remember who it was...

Anyway, the whole idea is a bit dated now.  Years ago, in case of controversy,
the ref would go to the Referee's circle (that little half moon by the 
timekeepers bench) to seek refuge when things got hot.  He would then call
over whatever Cs and As (one from each side) to discuss the problem, and they
would communicate in turn to the other players.  Now it seems to be a bit
less formal.

rick
74.312CAM::WAYA fool's bolt is soon shotFri Apr 27 1990 10:4911
I forgot to look up the rules last night on this. 

I have this EXCELLENT book at home which has more hockey info than
you could ever imagine...I mean records, standings from every year
since Jesus played defensemen for the Bethlehem Browns!, rules,
players stats...

If I remember, I'll enter the stuff nexted week....


'Saw
74.313SASE::SZABOFreakin' Lunatics Club CardholderFri Apr 27 1990 10:599
74.3147983::RIEUStanley, won't you please come home!Fri Apr 27 1990 11:113
       When Hoot and Monty are involved isn't it a SDUC? Does this mean the
    parrot has left the nest?
                                         Denny
74.315CAM::WAYA fool's bolt is soon shotFri Apr 27 1990 11:1819
74.316Hey, no theology discussions in OURGNG::LDUC ;^)!VAXWRK::NEEDLEFri Apr 27 1990 12:150
74.317GENRAL::WADEonly weenies use compose characters!Fri Apr 27 1990 12:267
    Thanks a bunch Rick.  With the plethora of hockey knowledge in
    here, I'll be a_expert before ya know know it.  
    
    Frank BABY, "Saving Grace"?  Rollllllward!  I suppose he carved
    those sticks out of a tree that was hit by lightning eh?
    
    Claybone_who's_soon_to_have_a_new_nickname_courtesy_of_Lufay
74.318QUASER::JOHNSTONWonFarfugIsKnotEnuf! WhoIsTooBlam?!Fri Apr 27 1990 12:373
   	Whatsa matta with `Claywad' ?!!?

   Mike JN
74.319CAM::WAYA fool's bolt is soon shotFri Apr 27 1990 12:4613
74.320MCIS1::DHAMELGet outta my face, the game is on!!Fri Apr 27 1990 12:558
    
    re: .315
    
    Small nit.  I believe the Sumaria Spartans beat the Calvary Flames
    that year.
    
    Dickster
    
74.321CAM::WAYA fool's bolt is soon shotFri Apr 27 1990 13:2711
It is possible -Dickster, that you might be correct.

I'm using the American Revised BHL History, and the year numbering
does not coincide with some of the other editions of BHL History
that are out there.

In fact, I'd be willing to bet that you are using the King James
BHL History, right?


Chainsaw
74.322CSC32::J_HERNANDEZAFool&amp;HisMoneyAreSoonPartying!!Fri Apr 27 1990 13:4512
74.323UPWARD::HEISERMr. Potato Head Groove ThingFri Apr 27 1990 14:482
    Peter walked on water, but you should've seen what he could do when it
    was frozen!
74.324MCIS1::DHAMELGet outta my face, the game is on!!Fri Apr 27 1990 15:1214
    
    Yes, it was "Sandleless" Judas Iscariot who threw the series, but
    he hung himself out to dry when he was flaunting the thirty pieces
    of payola in a neighborhood sports bar.
    
    If I remember correctly, it was a very vicious series where St.
    Peter was thrown out for a blatant slashing call in the garden where
    an opposing player almost lost an ear.  Later on they retalliated
    by really nailing a few players on the boards.  I never thought
    they could come back, but three days later they came back most
    triumphantly.
    
    Dickster
    
74.325CAM::WAYA fool's bolt is soon shotFri Apr 27 1990 15:167
re .-1:

Dickster, I yield to you sir...

too funny, way too funny....

Chainsaw
74.326heavensward.....SASE::SZABOFreakin' Lunatics Club CardholderFri Apr 27 1990 15:184
74.327CSC32::J_HERNANDEZAFool&amp;HisMoneyAreSoonPartying!!Fri Apr 27 1990 15:294
    re Dickster,  I AM DYYYYIIINNNNNNGGGG!!!!
    
    
    Hockey must have been real vicious in those days. 
74.328FSHQA1::AWASKOMFri Apr 27 1990 16:225
    Thank God for Friday afternoons, especially in this file....
    
    I'm rollin'
    
    A&W
74.329CAM::WAYA fool's bolt is soon shotFri Apr 27 1990 16:4213
74.330This is CARBUFFS, ain't it? Hick! :-)SASE::SZABOFreakin' Lunatics Club CardholderFri Apr 27 1990 17:0511
74.331UPWARD::HEISERMr. Potato Head Groove ThingFri Apr 27 1990 17:111
    What's the prob doodes?  It's only 90 with 10% humidity!
74.332CAM::WAYA fool's bolt is soon shotFri Apr 27 1990 17:4915
74.333Hunting TripQUASER::JOHNSTONWonFarfugIsKnotEnuf! WhoIsTooBlam?!Mon Apr 30 1990 12:3035
74.334I've forgotten what real quiet is.......SASE::SZABOFreakin' Lunatics Club CardholderMon Apr 30 1990 12:344
74.335ears perk upLEVERS::STROUTchew electric death!!!! - spiffMon Apr 30 1990 12:362
74.336QUASER::JOHNSTONWonFarfugIsKnotEnuf! WhoIsTooBlam?!Mon Apr 30 1990 12:4611
74.337GENRAL::WADEGo Broons!Mon Apr 30 1990 13:063
    Mikey, did you make it out of the hills before we got dumped on?
    
    Claybone
74.338QUASER::JOHNSTONWonFarfugIsKnotEnuf! WhoIsTooBlam?!Mon Apr 30 1990 13:1510
74.339CAM::WAYA fool's bolt is soon shotMon Apr 30 1990 13:4713
Mikey --

I hear what yer sayin' dude.  There is nothing, but nothing in this
world that equates with sitting alone on a ridge, listening to 
the wind sing its own kind of song.

Its a little different out here, in that the ridges ain't so high (even
in the Whites) but you can still get the general idea...

Speakin' of bourbon, have you tried Gentleman Jack yet?  If so,
what think you?

'Saw
74.340a smothers bros. i am not.LEVERS::STROUTno hero in your tragedy...Thu May 03 1990 15:422
    	How do you sleep a yo-yo long enough to rock the cradle?  thanks
    for any help.
74.34229637::J_HERNANDEZAFool&amp;HisMoneyAreSoonPartying!!Thu May 03 1990 16:055
    I don't play with yo-yo's anymore. I tried to do around the world in an
    elevator once and this lady beated the p*ss outta with her poodle. 
    
    dem poodles don't bite too hard but they sure can hoit when someone
    swings one at you.
74.343YoYo Fizzcix 101LEVERS::STROUTno hero in your tragedy...Thu May 03 1990 16:0919
    	Thanks Steve..   It woiked pretty good.  Except the thing always
    rebounds too early before I cain finish the rock.  
    
    	Oh yeah, is it better to have the groove in the yoyo wide or
    small??
         
          
       |\    /|
       | \__/ |
       | |  | |   
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       | /  \ |
       |/    \|
    
         |__|
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       distance?
    
    sean
74.345I wish I had your job!UPWARD::HEISEROh I hate it when I do thisThu May 03 1990 16:381
    
74.346CAM::WAYThere's no winners...only survivorsThu May 03 1990 17:2111
 
I have just the right amount of string on my yo-yo.  And it always
fits into the groove just right, although it prefers the snug feeling
prevalent with narrower grooves.

It never sleeps when I call on it, and it might make a dog take a walk
but it wouldn't walk the dog.

Yep, my yo-yo, I think I'll keep it....

chainsaw
74.347Duncan yo-yos rool!GENRAL::WADEGo Broons!Thu May 03 1990 17:321
    
74.348MCIS1::DHAMELNuke Kids on the BlockThu May 03 1990 17:5210
    
    And ya know how ya snap that sucker down and it comes right back
    and breaks every bone in your hand?  Those butterfly yo-jobs hurt
    the worst.  Oooohhhh.....I hate it when that happens.
    
    Next time I try an around-the-world, it ain't gonna be with no kid's
    toy.
    
    Dickster
    
74.349COMET::MONTGOMERYBrowns Bite Donks 10/8/90Thu May 03 1990 18:068
    
 -->  Next time I try an around-the-world, it ain't gonna be with no kid's
 |   toy.
 |   
 |---> Dickster
    
Makes you wonder!

74.350SASE::SZABOJust say YES to freakin' lunaticism!Thu May 17 1990 15:5026
74.351He also talks relativity with Albert...CAM::WAYGo ask Alice, when she's ten feet tallThu May 17 1990 15:5736
74.352UPWARD::HEISERgive me 7 pillars of wisdomThu May 17 1990 15:583
>Have you been into my mushrooms?

'Saw, was that you that got busted at the Dead concert?
74.353LEVERS::STROUTno hero in your tragedy...Thu May 17 1990 15:599
    	That Bed, Bread and Basketball thing is a scream.  'Saw you gotta
    fess up and tell us the origins of that thing.  It was mahvelous!
    
    "Ted's amazing repertoire of spin, double-pump, and alley-oop dunks
    is surpassed only by the myriad delight from Cheryl's kitchen!"
    
    	The pictures are the best part though!!!  8^)
                 
    sean
74.354CAM::WAYGo ask Alice, when she's ten feet tallThu May 17 1990 16:0710
Nope, never been busted for mushrooms before...  Brocolli once,
but never mushrooms...


Sean, I never fess up to anything...'gainst my constitution...

I'd like to sample some of Cheryl's delights in her kitchen,
from the sounds of it...heh, heh, heh....

'Saw
74.355LEVERS::STROUTno hero in your tragedy...Thu May 17 1990 16:115
    	I dunno 'Saw... from the looks of things I'd say she's pulling
    50!  Kay's got definitely possiblities, though.  Free time at the
    charity stripe sounds awfully tempting. 
    
    sean
74.356CAM::WAYGo ask Alice, when she's ten feet tallThu May 17 1990 16:141
Sean, if she can pull about 5 Torr, I don't care how old she is....
74.357what's this about getting in someone's face?LEVERS::STROUTno hero in your tragedy...Thu May 17 1990 16:174
    	8^) 'Saw!  The shower with Nancy and Ed sounds the most suspicious
    of the four...
    
    sean
74.358AXIS::ROBICHAUD3 OT's and still standingThu May 17 1990 16:454
    	The author comes from Bloomfield CT.  Nice job Frank.  Classic
    stuff.
    
    				/Don
74.359CAM::WAYGo ask Alice, when she's ten feet tallThu May 17 1990 17:2011
Yeah, I didn't have enough brand new inter-orifice snail envelopes
to get everyone a new one, so I just hoped for the best....

I got it from a co-worker who's brother works at Penn State.  It
came in a letter on Penn State stationery.

We play quite a bit of hoops here at lunch time, and it has been
a big hit, so I thought I'd share it...

Enjoy....
'Saw
74.360RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOGoons,Bufoons,Loons,BroonsThu May 17 1990 19:142
    thanks Saw.  Purty darn funny.
    JD
74.361CAM::WAYGo ask Alice, when she's ten feet tallFri May 18 1990 14:367
To settle a bet..

Can anyone provide me the words for the Canadian national anthem,
"O Canada"...

thanks,
'Saw
74.362STAR::YANKOWSKASTastes lousy! More filling!Fri May 18 1990 14:5414
    re 'Saw:
    
    O Canada our home and native land
    True patriot love in all thy son's command
    With glowing hearts we see thee rise
    The true north strong and free
    From far and wide O Canada
    We stand on guard for thee
    God keep our land, glorious and free
    O Canada we stand on guard for thee
    O Canada we stand on guard for thee
                     
    
    py
74.36315436::LEFEBVREFour more to go!Fri May 18 1990 14:553
    Those French, they have a different word for everything!
    
    Mark.
74.364The *real* version SHALOT::HUNTHeartbreak Motor Oil and Bombay GinFri May 18 1990 15:0012
    O Canada our home and native land, eh ???
    True patriot love in all thy son's command, take off.
    With glowing hearts we see thee rise, hoser.
    The true north strong and free, eh ???
    From far and wide O Canada, take off.
    We stand on guard for thee, hoser.
    God keep our land, glorious and free, eh ???
    O Canada we stand on guard for thee, take off.
    O Canada we stand on guard for thee, hoser.
    
    Bob Hunt
    
74.365COBRA::DINSMOREYa gotta love the horizontal hula.Fri May 18 1990 15:028
    i love that song..
    
    damn, wiping tears away at this very moment
    
    
    dinz
    
    
74.366Great note, as usual, BoB! :-) SASE::SZABOJust say YES to freakin' lunaticism!Fri May 18 1990 15:071
    
74.367FSHQA2::JHENDRYJohn Hendry, DTN 292-2170Fri May 18 1990 15:114
    When sung in Quebec during the big push for independence for Quebec,
    the next to last line was "We stand on guard for rights and liberty."
    
    John
74.368UPWARD::HEISERgive me 7 pillars of wisdomFri May 18 1990 15:354
    Anyone know the words to "I HATE LA!"? (sung to the tune of "I Love
    LA")
    
    It just hit the top of the charts in Phoenix.
74.369Eh, hoser, give me a beerMCIS1::DHAMELSammy Davis Jr. was a MuppettFri May 18 1990 15:4010
    
    re: .364, eh?
    
    Too funny.  I'd like to get the Bob and Doug McKenzie version, and
    like, get some beer, you know, and we could like drink the beer
    while we listen to it, eh? And then we could get some more beer
    and do it again, eh hoser?
    
    Dickster
    
74.371QUASER::JOHNSTONWHOA! Death by STEREO!Fri May 18 1990 16:566
   	Great Anthem , Bob (Take off, you hoser!)

   Re: Beer     Make sure  it's some of them metric six packs
   		ya  know... double it and add 32, ey?

   Mike JN
74.372LEVERS::STROUTno hero in your tragedy...Thu May 24 1990 15:524
    	Hey Saw, didja see the Sportswriter sweat lasted night? 8^)
    Thanks again dude!
    
    sean
74.373Pentathalon Question (moved by mod)AUSTIN::MACNEALBo don't know rugby!Wed May 30 1990 18:5281
74.374Not that I would ever compete in this event4159::NAZZAROWe're the Dead Beat ClubThu May 31 1990 11:419
    The beer chug
    The anisette chaser
    The reverse beer chug
    The Bailey's chaser
    The vomit
    
    Help hope this.
    
    NAZZ
74.375long time no junk note :-)SASE::SZABOThu May 31 1990 11:456
74.376CAM::WAYYes I did, I shot her...Thu May 31 1990 12:0113
Actually, it's like this:

	The Date
	Foreplay
	The DEED
	Sleep (snoring optional)
	The Blowoff


Not that *I* would ever participate, but I thought you might like fto
know....

'Saw
74.377MCIS1::DHAMELPlease allow me to introduce myselfThu May 31 1990 13:1511
    
    .376
    
    Make a date and go right into foreplay, huh 'Saw?  No movie? No
    dinner?  No drinks?  No slobbering?  No begging?
    
    If you can get your moves and techniques into a /Don video, you'll
    sell a million of 'em.  8^)
    
    Dickster
    
74.378FSHQA2::AWASKOMThu May 31 1990 13:336
    But that's the pentathalon -- the quickie version.
    
    Then there's the decathalon -- for whining and dining and carrying
    on......
    
    A&W
74.379MCIS1::DHAMELPlease allow me to introduce myselfThu May 31 1990 13:3710
    
      >>>             whining and dining and carrying
                      ^^^^^^^
                         |
                         |__ Was this intentional?  If so:
    
                     HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH(tm)
    
    Dickster
    
74.380Freudian slip? 8^)AXIS::ROBICHAUDWe're the Dead Weight ClubThu May 31 1990 13:481
    
74.381re .379FSHQA2::AWASKOMThu May 31 1990 13:543
    It's intentional
    
    A&W
74.382CAM::WAYIt was a stanky thangThu May 31 1990 14:026
re /Don...


	Dude, that should be Froodian Slip 8^)


74.383REFINE::ASHENever trust a big butt &amp; a smileThu May 31 1990 14:144
    I liked 'Saw's better, but I must admit Nazz, that was a better attempt
    than your 3 point shooting....
    
    _Walt
74.385CAM::WAYIt was a stanky thangThu May 31 1990 15:2811
74.386QUASER::JOHNSTONWHOA! Death by STEREO!Thu May 31 1990 15:407
   	Lasted time I did one of those, I was in serious difficulty
   ( re: coherence, etc. ). I chipped a toof, swallowed the shot glass, 
   fell backwards over a railing, and landed on a stripper.. uh, I mean,..
   a young lass from the Christian Science Reading Room, who had stopped
   for a cup of sasparilla. (She made me give her a dollar wif ma teef!)!

   Mike JN
74.387Thanks for the congrats, Hawk!4159::NAZZAROWe're the Dead Beat ClubThu May 31 1990 16:454
    Unfortunately, I'm too old for the 'Saw's pentathlon, tho'
    it sounds like fun.  Heck, I'm almost as old as Lee Timmons!
    
    NAZZ
74.388Pep talk for NAZZCAM::WAYIt was a stanky thangThu May 31 1990 17:0817
NAZZ...

C'mon dude.  Yer never too old!

Okay, so your time drops off a bit, but hey, we all go through that.
And sometimes youth is no substitute for experience.  I mean,
it might be a tad tougher to get the date, but all the experience should
make for some triumphant foreplay.

And hey, quite honestly, sometimes younger pentathaletes have a problem
with the blowoff event.  With all your experience, I'm sure that that
event would also be quite excellent.

Remember:  you're never too old (maybe TOO BLAM!) but never too old!

Party on dude!
'Saw
74.389Its not??!??USRCV1::COLOTTIRIm Bart Simpson,who the hell r u?Fri Jun 01 1990 15:485
    I thought (being a real young dude) that movies and wHining and dining
    were part of foreplay. If I'm wrong, dont tell me!!
    
    			Rich
    
74.390FSHQA1::AWASKOMFri Jun 01 1990 16:3814
    for Nazz -
    
    If you really feel you can't keep up in the pentathalon, change
    events to the decathalon, with its increased opportunities for scoring,
    and style points.
    
    for Rich -
    
    You're wrong, but I didn't tell you that :-).  There's actually
    more points available in foreplay (and afterplay, particularly if
    you skip the snoring) than there are in the 'main event'.......but
    it's one of those lessons ya learn the hard way.
    
    A&W 
74.391SASE::SZABOFri Jun 01 1990 16:438
74.392I mean what she knows....GENRAL::WADEFear the govt. that fears your guns!Fri Jun 01 1990 17:101
    
74.39315436::LEFEBVREIf you build it, he will come.Fri Jun 01 1990 17:233
    Claybroon, certainly a most excellent p-name.
    
    Mark.
74.394Stanley Cup Age (moved by mod)AUSTIN::MACNEALBo don't know rugby!Fri Jun 01 1990 17:36178
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                 -< OURGNG::SPORTS - Digital's daily tabloid >-
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EARRTH::GROVES                                       11 lines  30-MAY-1990 11:00
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        Does anyone know how old the Stanley Cup is ?  I realize that
    is the oldest in North American sports, but don't know how old it
    is.
         Another question:
    
          Is it the original cup ? I know all the players get their
    names on the cup, but is it a different cup each year ?
    
    
      Jim
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MCIS1::DHAMEL "Pavlov's dog was named Odie"          12 lines  30-MAY-1990 11:07
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    Can't say how old it is, but I believe the original cup is just
    the dinky little thing on top, and they keep adding layers on the
    bottom, like a cake.
    
    When it gets just a little bigger, they're gonna have a naked Titles
    and Aquisitions specialist jump out of it during the finals.
    
    Hope this helps.
    
    Dickster
    
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Note 250.2                       Stanley Cup Age                         2 of 12
AXIS::ROBICHAUD "Lean Mean Milking Machines"          3 lines  30-MAY-1990 11:09
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    	I think the original Cup is in the Hall of Fame in Toronto.
    
    				/Don
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Note 250.3                       Stanley Cup Age                         3 of 12
CAM::WAY "Might be your man, I don' know..."         11 lines  30-MAY-1990 12:30
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For some reason the year 1896 comes to mine...

Calling John Hendry, calling John Hendry....

Actually, if I had my hockey media guide here I could tell you....


There is quite a history behind the Cup.  It has during its lifetime
been stolen, and also dumped into a Canal....

'Saw
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Note 250.4                       Stanley Cup Age                         4 of 12
FSHQA2::JHENDRY "John Hendry, DTN 292-2170"           4 lines  30-MAY-1990 12:49
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    I don't have my hockey media guide handy but I'll certainly look
    it up when I get a chance
    
    John
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Note 250.5                       Stanley Cup Age                         5 of 12
FSHQA2::JHENDRY "John Hendry, DTN 292-2170"           4 lines  30-MAY-1990 12:55
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    I had some Stanley Cup history on line.  'Saw, you were close. 
    Its first year was 1894.
    
    John
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Note 250.6                       Stanley Cup Age                         6 of 12
PARVAX::WARDLE "Yanks and Jets in 1990!"              4 lines  30-MAY-1990 14:26
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    Just ask LeE...he's been around for awhile. After all, he remembers
    watching Yogi.
    
    JoJ   8^)
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Note 250.7                       Stanley Cup Age                         7 of 12
MCIS1::DHAMEL "Pavlov's dog was named Odie"          12 lines  30-MAY-1990 14:36
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    I remember Yogi, too.  He was that Indian guy with the beard and
    the robe and the sandals and he lived on a mountain in Nepal or
    somewhere and went around lecturing about transcontinental meditation
    and he wore all sorts of flowers in his hair because he was going
    to San Fransisco where they smoke a lot of hemp and drop acid on
    each other.
    
    Peace,
    
    Dickster, love child of the 60's
    
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Note 250.8                       Stanley Cup Age                         8 of 12
CSC32::GAULKE "Bigfoot prefers Pork Chops"           15 lines  30-MAY-1990 14:42
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     re: the real Yogi.
    
       Ahh yes, and all his followers hung out in NYC Port Authority
    Bus Terminal asking for loose change. 
    
    
        "remember my children, it is easier to pass camel 
    thru eye of needle if greased."
    
    
       Steven
    
    
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Note 250.9                       Stanley Cup Age                         9 of 12
CURRNT::ROWELLW "Whats in a (personal) name ?"        9 lines  31-MAY-1990 03:23
                     -< The Ranger won't like this Yogi ! >-
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    Hey,
    
    I thought Yogi was a big brown hairy brute who stole pic-a-nic
    baskets from tourists in Jellystone Park, with his sidekick
    Boo-Boo.
    
    ;-)
    
    Wayne.
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SHIRE::FINEUC1                                       22 lines  31-MAY-1990 03:23
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jim,

nope, it's not the original Stanley Cup.

Danged if I can remember the details, but, as someone said, it was dumped in
a canal at one point - don't know whether that one was recovered or not...

Otherwise, it was stolen at least once, lost a couple of times (they all got
smashed and left in on a street corner in Montreal once), and who knows what 
else.

So I reckon that the original either stayed lost/stolen or they retired it
once upon a time, and replaced it with the current one, which has been enlarged
two or three times along the way.

I think someone mentioned in here that they were running out of space to
put the names on the current one??

rick ellis
    
    

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Note 250.11                      Stanley Cup Age                        11 of 12
CAM::WAY "Might be your man, I don' know..."          4 lines  31-MAY-1990 06:35
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They keep adding 'layers' onto the bottom of the cup, with spaces
for names....

'Saw
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Note 250.12                      Stanley Cup Age                        12 of 12
DVF::COULOMBE                                        10 lines   1-JUN-1990 11:01
                               -< Lord Stanley >-
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    STANLEY CUP, the oldest trophy competed for by professional athletes in
    North America, was donated by Frederick Arthur , Lord Stanley of
    Preston and son of the Earl of Derby , in 1893. Lord Stanley purchased
    the trophy for 10 guineas ($50 at the time ) for presentation to the
    amateur hockey champions of Canada. Since 1910, when the NHL took
    possession of the cup,  the trophy has been the symbol of professional
    hockey supremacy. It has only been competed for by the NHL teams since
    1926 and under control by the NHL  since 1946.
    
    Coach.
    
74.395GENRAL::WADEFear the govt. that fears your guns!Fri Jun 01 1990 17:498
    Thankeeeee kindly.  I picked it up from a bumper sticker I
    saw the other day.  Kind of sums up the gun control debate
    for me.
    
    Hey Gang, I just heard that Markie is gonna be an uncle.  Is
    that scary or what?  The poor kid hasn't got a chance!  ;^)
    
    Claybone
74.396Who's Got the DICtionary? :-)AKOV06::DCARRJordan Rules! (thx Chuck!)Fri Jun 01 1990 18:4024
    I've been meaning to say this since I first saw "Titles and
    Acquisitions" (in this notes file, I mean :-)...
    
    Shouldn't it be: "Titles and Appendices" ???
    
    You know, titles are in the front of a book, appendices are in the
    back?  I mean, then we could continue the "book" analogy, like, 
    
    "Cain't tell a book by its cover"...
    "Read between the lines"...
    "Reading... Its FUNdamental"...
    "I was BOOKIN' last night!"
    "I'm a bookworm" ('Saw's P-name? :-)
    "I prefer soft-cover"
    "Book-of-the-month Club"
    
    Hey, this is easy, I thought of most of those just now!
    
    Shlep this schlong, or whatever you hip dudes mean :-)
    
    ML
    
    
    
74.397QUASER::JOHNSTONWHOA! Death by STEREO!Fri Jun 01 1990 19:1119
74.398CAM::WAYIt was a stanky thangMon Jun 04 1990 10:4812
I think Titles and Acquisitions(tm) is a legal phrase, which was
used because of T & A.

Other related phrases to describe anatomy...

	Litigations
	Contracts
	Pensions

See how easy it is...8^)

'Saw
74.399CAM::WAYWas the needle, and the spoon...Mon Jun 04 1990 13:2513
Here's a miscellaneous question for ya....

Last night I was fast forwarding through a videotape to get to a movie
near the end, and stopped to watch the ending of Hoosiers.  I got
to wondering, as I watched these kids play ball, where they got them
from...

I don't have the names (but I could get them), but do any of you know
whether or not these kids (actors, whatever) played college ball, 
or what...

Hope you can shelp me...
'Saw
74.400Great movieSHALOT::HUNTHeartbreak Motor Oil and Bombay GinMon Jun 04 1990 14:0224
    'Saw,
    
    I don't know the details of the actors who played the basketball
    players in "Hoosiers".  It's pretty obvious, though, that the producers
    were going for the "anonymous" factor.  That is, no "name" actors among
    the players to draw undue attention away from the story.  I've never
    seen a single one of those players show up in any other filmed
    production.
    
    There are so many wonderful moments in that film.  There was Gene
    Hackman's "Norman Dale" deliberately forcing his own ejection so that
    Dennis Hopper's "Shooter" could coach a last-second win.  And Ollie's
    miracle free throws to clinch the state semi-final.  And Jimmy, the
    star player, quietly interrupting the "hearing" where the townsfolk
    were trying to get Norman Dale fired.
    
    I think one of my favorite scenes was near the end when they showed
    some of those same "lynch mob" fans going wild.  Yes, they were
    bandwagon jumpers but you could just see their transformation from
    "this guy's nuts ..." to "can we win just one more" ...
    
    Beautiful movie.  An all-time classic ...
    
    Bob Hunt
74.401FSHQA1::JRODOPOULOSMon Jun 04 1990 14:241
    And to think that it was based on a true story makes it even better.
74.402FIVER::LEFEBVREGuaranteed PersonalityMon Jun 04 1990 14:396
    Titles and Acquisitions roolz...all others are cheap imitations.
    Don't settle for anything less.
    
    Don't congrat me, congrat my brother.
    
    Mark.
74.403CAM::WAYWas the needle, and the spoon...Mon Jun 04 1990 16:4911
One of my favorite parts is where in the last second, Norman Dale
says that they'll use Jimmy as the decoy.  Everybody is quiet but
he can tell something is up.  He says what's wrong?

Jimmy looks him in the eye and says I can make it....  It was great!


From the way they played I almost wondered if they were University
kids or something (like from JV squad?????).

'Saw
74.404STRATA::CAPPELHey Baseball, GET A REAL JOBMon Jun 04 1990 18:2914
    Saw'
    
    The kid that played Jimmy played division II(I believe) ball at
    a small college in Ohio or Indiana.  Last year I remember reading
    that he was fighting the NCAA who revoked his eligibility for accepting
    money to portray a basketball player.
    
    The NCAA is ridiculous some times.  I also read earlier this year
    that some kid lost his eligiblity to play ball because he accepted
    a new car that he won with a half-court shot at a NBA game.
    
    Too much,
    
    Cap
74.405Think I'll dust off that tape tonight ...SHALOT::HUNTHeartbreak Motor Oil and Bombay GinMon Jun 04 1990 18:3021
    >> One of my favorite parts is where in the last second, Norman Dale
    >> says that they'll use Jimmy as the decoy.  Everybody is quiet but he
    >> can tell something is up.  He says what's wrong?
    
    Yeah, that was *great*.  I'm sure you took note of it but this was a
    major transformation in *all* of them.
    
    When the season started, Norman Dale benched players or threatened them
    with leaving the team if they so much as *thought* differently than he
    did.  Remember when they finished playing a game with only 4 players on
    the floor at the end because one of the more headstrong kids decided to
    violate the "four passes" rule and go bombs away from the outside ???
    
    Then at the end, they openly question the single most critical decision
    at the utmost critical moment in the entire history of the school and
    he gives in !!!   And they win !!!
    
    As corny a sports movie as you'll ever see.  But the goosebumps come
    back every single time.
    
    Bob Hunt
74.406CAM::WAYI will not go quietly...Tue Jun 05 1990 10:4321
74.407QUOKKA::SNYDERWherever you go, there you areThu Jun 07 1990 13:2016
    Baseball question:  I was at the ball park last night watching the
    Colorado Springs Sky Sox beat the Albuquerque Dukes and a call occurred
    that I can't figure out.

    Men on first and second.  Batter lays down a bunt straight toward the
    mound.  Pitcher bobbles the ball, then gets it together and whips it to
    first.  The play is close but the runner is called out.  Next thing you
    know, the officials are having a little conference in the middle of the
    infield.  The umpire then signals (again) that the batter is out and
    then he sends the two runners (who, naturally, had advanced to second
    and third) back to first and second!

    Can anyone explain what might have happened?  Thanks.

    Sid
74.408AUSTIN::MACNEALBo don't know rugby!Thu Jun 07 1990 13:276
    re:.407
    
    Perhaps the batter had stepped out of the batters box or stepped on the
    plate when he laid down the bunt.  This would result in an automatic
    dead ball (therefore runners couln't advance) and the batter being
    called out.
74.409JULIET::MAY_BRQUIET!!Thu Jun 07 1990 13:522
    
    Infield fly rule?
74.410InterferenceSNDCSL::HAUSRATHToo many projects, not enough timeThu Jun 07 1990 14:267
    
    Another possibility.. the batter may have interfered with the catcher..  
    
    This would have caused him to be called out, plus the runners would
    then have to return to their original positions.  
    
    
74.411SASE::SZABOThu Jun 07 1990 14:295
74.412REFINE::ASHENever trust a big butt &amp; a smileThu Jun 07 1990 14:331
    Ball may have hit the runner when he bunted it?
74.413Don't need no steenkin' lunatics15436::LEFEBVREHe lives in Mojave in a WinnebagoThu Jun 07 1990 14:423
    Huck, we did have a get together...you weren't invited.
    
    Mark.
74.414It's not Bo...is it?WFOV12::MORRISONCaptain of the Ship of FoolsMon Jun 11 1990 12:375
    
      What's Bo Jackson's real first name? 
    
      Bull~
    
74.416VincentCSC32::J_MANNINGOnly Amiga Makes it PossibleMon Jun 11 1990 13:341
    
74.417VeronicaSASE::SZABOMon Jun 11 1990 13:391
    
74.418Vivian15436::LEFEBVREPost no p-namesMon Jun 11 1990 13:432
     
    
74.420SASE::SZABOMon Jun 11 1990 14:027
74.421:^>WFOV12::MORRISONCaptain of the Ship of FoolsMon Jun 11 1990 14:086
    
       Vank vu very vuch vor vall vee vesposes
    
       Vull~
    
    
74.422Vincent is right, I stand correctedSTAR::YANKOWSKASPaul YankowskasMon Jun 11 1990 15:021
    
74.423MCIS1::DHAMELYa gotta aggregate yer SLOF's, manMon Jun 11 1990 15:3113
    
    I always wondered, does Bo Derek have a real first name?
    
    Is it Vincent?  And how do you get "Bo" out of "Vincent"?
    How do they get "Bob" out of "Robert", and "Dick" out of "Richard"
    and "Ted" out of "Edmund"?
    
    And what about Boo Ferris?
    
    I'm so confused.  I'm going to go take a pill.
    
    Dickster
    
74.424WMOIS::RIEU_DRead his lips...Know new taxes!Mon Jun 11 1990 15:362
      Bo(dacious) Derek?
                                      Denny
74.425SASE::SZABOMon Jun 11 1990 15:4419
74.426WOODS::KINGRHospital called, your brain is ready!!!!Mon Jun 11 1990 16:063
       Everyone knows that >Bo is short for Bo-vine!!!!
    
    REK
74.427CAM::WAYBloomfield Brew CrewMon Jun 11 1990 16:3117
Dickster and Hawkster --

Clearly, you gentlemen have been partaking of the mushrooms I sent
up there.  Hope you enjoyed them.

If you'd like to see some totally triumphant names, check out
Catch-22.  You'll find Milo Minderbinder, Major Major Major, Major
Minor, Colonel Korn, and General Dweedle.  


Also, I like people with two first names, you know like Washington Irving
(or Irving Washington), and Barney Frank (Frank Barney), Peter Paul,
Paul Peter etc etc etc ...

Now I'm confused.  anyone got another mushroom?

Chainsaw - who's going to ask Alice right now......
74.4289385::CRITZWho'll win the TdF in 1990?Mon Jun 11 1990 16:466
    	My mother's best friend married a fella who name was
    	Clifford Senior. Cliff's father was also named Clifford
    	Senior. So, Cliff was Clifford Senior, Jr., and his
    	father was Clifford Senior, Sr.
    
    	Scott
74.429MCIS1::DHAMELYa gotta aggregate yer SLOF's, manMon Jun 11 1990 16:5411
    
    >Now I'm confused.  anyone got another mushroom?
    
    Yep.  Just dragged (or is that drugged?) a fresh batch out of the
    fertilizer this weekend.  Funny how they taste like shit, though.
    
    I'll send some down via demand shuttle, and at the same time I can
    return your 2 Live Crew tapes.
    
    Dickster
    
74.430SASE::SZABOMon Jun 11 1990 16:548
    Which leads me to axe:
    
    Is Junior Felix Junior Felix, Sr. or Junior Felix, Jr.?
    
    Tanks for the 'shrooms, Way Frank!
    
    John Steven, father of Steven John.
    
74.431FSHQA1::AWASKOMMon Jun 11 1990 17:006
    Those're still better than my friend from high school, Candy Disch,
    and her brother Rad.  (Think about it.)
    
    Their folks musta been doin' some serious 'rooms.
    
    A&W 
74.432Whatever happened to Lionel Richie?SASE::SZABOMon Jun 11 1990 17:011
    
74.433CAM::WAYFeed your headMon Jun 11 1990 17:047
I like the girl my dad went to school with (and this is true folks,
I've seen the roster):

		Ophelia Peck

heh heh heh,
'Saw
74.434True storyEARRTH::BROOKSBy Any Means Neccessary - Any At AllMon Jun 11 1990 17:246
    Bo got his nickname from his youth. It's said that he had a wild,
    nasty streak growing up, which made him "as wild as a boar hog."
    
    "Boar" was shortened to "Bo", and the rest is history ....
    
    Doc
74.435MCIS1::DHAMELYa gotta aggregate yer SLOF's, manMon Jun 11 1990 17:277
    
    And Bo's father was named John, but his friends called him Jack,
    so the folks in town called the little guy Bo, Jack's son, and the
    rest is history...
    
    Dickster
    
74.436Junk Note/Rathole alert!MCIS1::DHAMELYa gotta aggregate yer SLOF's, manMon Jun 11 1990 17:4127
    
    Here in Telecom, we often deal with the Digital phone directory,
    and there is then the chance to play "Phone Book Marriages."
    
    For example, we marry a Diane Kohne to Keith Head, and her married
    name would be Diane Kohn-Head.
    
    Then you can divorce 'em and let 'em re-marry, so Alice Miller would
    hitch up with Glen Light, and subsequently marry Roger Beer, and
    voila:  Alice Miller-Light-Beer!
    
    Some others from directories, past and present:
    
    Joanne Coke - Leon Koller
    Linda French - Larry Fry
    Susanmarie Dinga - Roger Ling
    Anne Duncan - Robert Donat
    Chieu Do - Vinod Rai - Jason Mi - Larry Farr - Peter Sola
    Anne Marie Eassy - Robert Pickens
    Elizabeth Cardinal - Roy Finch - Lincoln Jay - Carl Robbins
    
    Somewhere I had more than 50 of these fantasy weddings, but with
    all the 'shrooms, I don't remember where I put it.
    
    Dickster
                  
    
74.437QUASER::JOHNSTONand pick up a can of Sprunt!Mon Jun 11 1990 17:5519
   	True story.

   I'm originally from Illinois (Peoria).
   There were a pair of twins there named
   	Ivery and Overy Johnson

   		They were boy twins

   I knew their mother and father.

   	I  could never bring myself to call them by name... I was afraid I
   would totally lose it and start spitting beer all over the place...so 
   it was always `Well, hows the twins?'  or `Why, if it isn't the twins!'

   	I also never knew whether their folks mispelled Ivory wrong on
   purpose, or Ovary wrong on purpose, or if it never even dawned on them
   what an ovary was.... or what. But I always felt sorry for the twins.

   Mike JN
74.438SASE::SZABOMon Jun 11 1990 17:5512
74.439;^)15436::LEFEBVREPost no p-namesMon Jun 11 1990 17:593
    It's good to see that we've all matured so.
    
    Mark.
74.440phone book marriages - I wanna party wid youse guys!AUSTIN::MACNEALBo don't know rugby!Mon Jun 11 1990 19:581
    
74.441BOSOX::TIMMONSI'm a Pepere!Tue Jun 12 1990 09:049
    Used to be a guy in the Honeywell directory named:
    
    Holger Denk.
    
    Honest!
    
    I bet he hated his father for that one.
    
    Lee
74.442WMOIS::RIEU_DRead his lips...Know new taxes!Tue Jun 12 1990 09:264
       Hawk, we used to toss the magnets from the cab doors up onto the
    ceiling. There're probably billions of 'em still stuck up there here in
    WMO.
                                          Denny
74.443CAM::WAYFeed your headTue Jun 12 1990 10:5027
Best name in the Digital phone book:

		Philip Orifice


My goof-off story:

One time, when I worked for a consulting firm, I was spending friday
afternoon in my downstairs office, shooting juicy spitballs at the
clock on the wall over the door.  I must have had about 50 spitballs
just stuck on that sucker, when my boss walked in.

Now, the clock on the wall was behind him, right over his head.  Imagine
how hard it was for me and the secretary who shared my office to hold
in our laughter as we waited for one of those juicy spitballs to
fall on this guy's haid.

About 20 seconds after he left, one of them fell right where he'd been
standing.  It was too funny.


Also, didja ever try to take the write protect rings off magtapes and
toss them onto the overhead wirehangers?  That'll keep ya busy for
an afternoon.....


Chainsaw
74.444JULIET::MAY_BRAlda, quiche, dockers, soccerTue Jun 12 1990 14:492
    
    I once had a customer named Hung Dang.
74.445CSC32::J_HERNANDEZL.A. Dodgers '88 WORLD CHAMPIONSTue Jun 12 1990 15:072
    there is a customre to the csc named Fuking Hu. He don't speak a word
    of English either.
74.446LUNER::BRAKEA Question of BalanceTue Jun 12 1990 15:095
    Has anyone been to the New England Sports' Museum? Is it any good
    - worth going to? Where is it and how do I get there?
    
    Rich
    
74.447FSHQA2::JHENDRYJohn Hendry, DTN 292-2170Tue Jun 12 1990 15:135
    It is on Soldiers Field Road in Allston roughly across the road
    from WBZ.  I've never been there and I don't know how worthwhile
    it is.
    
    John
74.448Wan Hung LoCGVAX2::REEVETue Jun 12 1990 15:211
    Another DEC employee= Pu San Yu
74.449The talented Kerry Timmons is really related to Lee4159::NAZZAROWe're the Dead Beat ClubTue Jun 12 1990 15:425
    Hey Lee - How's your daughter's leg?  Will she be able to play field
    hockey this fall?  Where's she going to school?  Did she get a
    scholarship?
    
    NAZZ
74.450CBROWN::TIMMONSI'm a Pepere!Tue Jun 12 1990 16:2016
    Nazz, Kerrie is doing fine, but she'll be undergoing rehab until
    Jan-Feb, so no fall sports.  Don't even expect her to play BB.
    
    She's enrolled at NECC, mainly because of the rehab.  She was all
    set for Plymouth State, but she'd had to change the therapist, and
    she didn't want to do that.  She's planning on transfering after
    one year, will try for Lowell, UMass, Salem State.  No scholarship,
    she's too short for the larger schools.  Plymouth did want her,
    and scouted her 4 times.  We were invited up for a game and a tour
    of the campus.  Boy, was it cold up there!  A two hour drive, too.
    
    Hey JD, I was surprised when Kerrie came home with instructions
    from the surgeon to have the rehab at Cedardale!  What was the name
    of the guy you know there?  I'll have her say Hi for ya.
    
    Lee
74.451Come back stronger than ever, Kerrie4159::NAZZAROWe're the Dead Beat ClubTue Jun 12 1990 16:276
    Lee, I hop ethose schools realize what a fine athlete she is, and
    come up with a little dough-re-mi to help ease that financial
    burden.  Best of luck to Kerrie, and I hope she's back to 100%
    by next winter.
    
    NAZZ
74.452CBROWN::TIMMONSI'm a Pepere!Tue Jun 12 1990 16:283
    Thanks, Nazz.  And I hope your cahunas recover nicely, too.  :*)
    
    Lee
74.453NAZZ, are your cahunas in a splint, or sumthin'? :-) SASE::SZABOTue Jun 12 1990 17:011
    
74.454RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOA knife,a fork,a bottle &amp; a corkTue Jun 12 1990 17:4610
    Lee,
    
    Andy Cannon is his name.  Tell Kerrie to tell him that her father
    knows me, sort of.  Won't help her any, but he'll get a kick out
    of it.  
    
    He's real good, as his most of his staff.  An athlete hisself. 
    My best man. 
    
    JD
74.455CAM::WAYTerminate with extreme prejudiceTue Jun 12 1990 18:171
But does he have big cahunas, JD?
74.456JUPITR::MOKCharles P. MokWed Jun 13 1990 14:234
    Is a Chinese or oriental name by itself always funny to some of you
    guys?  I do not find that amusing.
    
    Charles
74.457QUASER::JOHNSTONFunnier than the Bible!Wed Jun 13 1990 14:4615
74.458SASE::SZABOWed Jun 13 1990 15:0714
74.459CAM::WAYTerminate with extreme prejudiceWed Jun 13 1990 15:3021
When I was taking Russian, my Russian teacher who was from Russia
used to get the biggest kick out of my name.  She never would tell
me why.

The product I work on BASEstar, has a meaning in french slang that
isn't repeatable (BASE in french slang amounts to the f-word).

The language MACRO sounds just like the french slang for pimp.


Thus, many words and names from other languages can sound hilarious
in our own (and the converse is true).  

So, I think we're all doing what comes naturally to people the world
over.  Sometimes I think we all take ourselves and our perceived 
differences way to seriously when there's a helluva lot more important
things to worry about.  (like global warming) 8^)


JMHO,
'Saw
74.460Valuing Differences wasn't brought into DEC just for laffsAUSTIN::MACNEALBo don't know rugby!Wed Jun 13 1990 15:462
    ...and sometimes we don't take others and their differences seriously
    enough
74.461CAM::WAYTerminate with extreme prejudiceWed Jun 13 1990 16:2811
Good point...

But sometimes we all take ourselves too seriously.  A great man
said that if you can't get up in the morning, look in the mirror
and laugh at yourself, then you're not a complete person.

Hell, the way I look, it's certainly very easy to laugh...8^)

Cheers to all,
Chainsaw

74.462SASE::SZABOWed Jun 13 1990 17:145
74.463FeelGood Hormones(tm)CAM::WAYTerminate with extreme prejudiceWed Jun 13 1990 17:3524
Yeah, I agree.  Laughter releases them FeelGood Hormones into your
body, and you just kind of feel triumphantly excellent.

That's why I like comedy shows and cracking jokes.  If everbody laughed
a lot we wouldn't have to value differences, because we'd all be so
happy no one would care.

And there are lots of things to laugh at.  Look at Lawrence Welk.  Every
time I see that guy I just about pee my pants.  And then there's 
Milli Vanilli.

See, look around you, find something incongruous and laugh at it.  Take
your boss for example.  I've never had a boss that didn't manage at least
once a week to be a horses ass.  So laugh.

When you get good at it, you can start taking ordinary everyday things
and think about them in new and ususual ways (Incongruity again).
Before you know it, you're laughing so much that your bladder strength
has increased, your tummy is toned, and you're happy almost all the
time.

Give it a try, really!

Chainsaw (who hardly ever pisses his pants anymore)
74.465QUASER::JOHNSTONFunnier than the Bible!Wed Jun 13 1990 17:4829
74.466My hair loss is due to laughter!SASE::SZABOWed Jun 13 1990 17:501
    
74.467PARVAX::WARDLECounting the cars on the NJ Tpk...Wed Jun 13 1990 18:326
    Well, one thing I got outta the last 50 replies....Frank and Hawk are
    funny looking.
    
    JoJ
    
    
74.468I resemble that remark. SASE::SZABOThu Jun 14 1990 10:461
    
74.469Sports MuseumWMOIS::JBARROWSThu Jun 14 1990 11:1413
    re:  .446
    
    Rich,
    
    I have been to the 
    Sports Museum.  I thought that for only $3.50, it wasn't a bad deal at
    all.  They have this Black & Gold Display, lotsa stuff on loan from
    Orr and Espo, that alone was worth the $3.50 and the hour drive.  We
    went on a Sunday and had no problem getting around. Of course, I went
    I like Boston teams so it was awesome.......Ted Williams original
    locker from Fenway......cool...
    
    wheel
74.470CAM::WAYTerminate with extreme prejudiceThu Jun 14 1990 12:0511
Gee JoJ, if you thought I was funny looking before, you should
see me "sans barbe"....

Hyuk, hyuk, hyuk.....8^)


And Hawkster, I thought your ChromeDome(tm) was from too many u-turns
under the sheets!


'Saw
74.471SASE::SZABOThu Jun 14 1990 14:258
74.472CAM::WAYTerminate with extreme prejudiceThu Jun 14 1990 15:2311
Hawk, you are right.  I've seen that before.  No wonder Ken
always had that smile on his face.

BTW, for anyone who is interested, the french word "barbe", meaning
beard, has the same root as the word barbarian (i'm pretty sure).

So, now that I'm not a barbarian anymore, I guess I'm just a regular
old nice guy....


the New Chainsaw
74.473SASE::SZABOThu Jun 14 1990 15:598
74.474The Rest of the StoryCAM::WAYTerminate with extreme prejudiceThu Jun 14 1990 16:1033
Oh, did I have a thing for Barbie!

I was so jealous of Ken, with the beach boy good looks, and that
tan all the time.  

Barbie had these amazing Titles, and her little Acquisition wasn't
so bad either.  That made me even more jealous of Ken.

Then, all of a sudden one day, I realized I had something that Ken
didn't.  I had filberts.  Poor Ken, all those good looks and it 
wouldn't get him anywhere, since Hasbro, or Mattel or whoever had
forgotten to give him Filberts.  What a shame.

With that in mind, I put the moves big time on Barbie.  I sent her
flowers, I gave her candy, I even called in a girl from down the
street to do her hair.  It was all for naught.

Then, all of sudden one day, I realized why.  She'd been fooling
around with GI Joe.  I was devastated.  Crushed, I utterly destroyed
GI Joe's Footlocker, and then, it my ultimate maniacal state, I put
a GI Joe Hand Grenade down GI Joe's fatigue pants and blew his filberts
to Kingdom Come!

But alas, this time when I put the moves on Barbie, she responded.
Imagine my utter disappointment one day, when finally, finally after
all my overtures, she gave in, and I found out that, like Ken, 
she didn't have any equipment either.

I was crushed.  I picked up my ball glove, went outside, and have 
never looked back.....

(sigh, sniff)
Chainsaw
74.476CAM::WAYTerminate with extreme prejudiceThu Jun 14 1990 17:3710
Yo Schleppin_Steve,

	The Hawkstah is roughly 34 I'd be guessing
	
	I'm 31.

And don't you forget:  We Knew Barbie when.


Chainsaw
74.477SHIRE::FINEUC1Fri Jun 15 1990 07:2617
Sorry, we've been running a bit behind over hear with all these goings on but I 
can't resist a couple of names additions:

I went to school with a kid named Shane Hinkibottom (sorry if you're out there
Shane).

I know a good Swiss named Pauli (pronounced in German like "owl")

who married a good Suissesse named Paula (pronounced like "owl" and "vaseline"

They had a good Swiss girl, and here's the good part, who is named:

Pauline


rick ellis

74.478PARVAX::WARDLECounting the cars on the NJ Tpk...Mon Jun 18 1990 17:164
    Frank, you cain't (tm) Chromedome. It's a defacto (tm) and has been
    around for years. You cain't take credit for it.
    
    JoJ
74.479CAM::WAYTerminate with extreme prejudiceMon Jun 18 1990 18:0120
74.480Hoops QuestionCAM::WAYTerminate with extreme prejudiceTue Jun 19 1990 10:5412
Okay, help this basketball neophyte.....


We were having a discussion the other day on picks.

What constitutes a legal pick.  What constitues a moving pick
(which is illegal, right?)

I know what a pick is, I just don't know all the details.

Thanks,
'Saw
74.481a stap at itCNTROL::CHILDSDiggin the lawn 6/20 w/ the TWOSTue Jun 19 1990 12:357
 The picker must be stationary, must have occupied that spot on the floor
 before the pickee arrives another words he can't step in to the posistion 
 at the last second. I also believe he isn't allowed to use elbows.

 5% of the picks set in the NBA are legal the other 95% are not. in the
 obviously superior college game the reverse is true.... ;^)
74.482MCIS1::DHAMELThe killer awoke before dawn...Tue Jun 19 1990 12:5710
    
    The rule in a filbertshell:
    
           You can pick your friends, and you can pick your nose, but
           you can't pick your friend's nose.
    
    You're wholeheartedly welcome.
    
    Dickster
    
74.483QUASER::JOHNSTONLegitimateSportingPurpose?E.S.A.D.!Tue Jun 19 1990 16:163
           WHAT THE HELL IS THIS?!?!?  THE JOE WALTON NOTE!?!?!?

   Mike JN
74.484PFSVAX::JACOBJunkfergnotenerTue Jun 19 1990 16:1710
    re.482
    
    unless you're Joe Walton.
    
    Rule for TV
    You can prick your finger but don't.....well, you get the idea
    
    
    JaKe
    
74.485GRANPA::DFAUSTSixers=Atlantic Div ChampsTue Jun 19 1990 22:473
    A moving pick is what the Cavaliers use in their offense.
    
    Dennis
74.486CAM::WAYI have slipped the surly bonds of earthWed Jun 20 1990 10:4212
But seriously, how long do you have to be stationary?

I mean, if I run to a spot where I wanna pick, and my teammate and
his defender are already moving, if I stop and am stationary when
I pick the defender, is that legal?

How bout some of you refs?

(See, we've been arguing about this on the playground for about three
weeks now....)

'Saw
74.487'saw, get the packy yet? ;^)TOLKIN::FARLEYHave YOU seen Elvis today??Wed Jun 20 1990 12:011
    
74.488it's certainly not the roll blocks that Billy L. throws....CNTROL::CHILDSDiggin the lawn 6/20 w/ the TWOSWed Jun 20 1990 12:068
 How long you have to be stationary is a judgement call. I believe though
 in the rule that if my step is to that spot and you step to that spot to
 pick me then the foul should be called on you. Just watch a college game
 Saw and you see'll the proper enforcement of the rule. The NBA's version
 of what's a legal pick is a joke.........

 mike
74.489CAM::WAYI got a black cat bone, gotta mojo too...Wed Jun 20 1990 12:2017
re Kev --

Just went and checked and it was in my mail slot (hadn't checked it
in two days!)  I am seriously Rollward!!!!!  Thanks loads.....


re Mike --

Okay, it sounds right to me.  Basically the argument was that 
if my teammate had the ball, with a defender on him, and I slid
off my man, stopped, and then my teammate moved and I picked his
defender, the claim was moving pick, even though I was planted.

I didn't know the rule, so I thought I'd ask....

Thanks for shlepping,
'Saw
74.490but now ya gotta be Mr. 'saw - right?TOLKIN::FARLEYHave YOU seen Elvis today??Wed Jun 20 1990 12:361
    anytyme......
74.491CAM::WAYI got a black cat bone, gotta mojo too...Wed Jun 20 1990 12:3710
Yeah...

I loved it...  "Compute This"...  You don't know how many times, 
when I get an ACCVIO in the middle of something I've been working
on for a while, that I wish I could do that.

Just go in, take a Stihl with a 36" blade, and lay waste to some
VAXen....Argghhhhh!!!!

'Saw
74.492All the dirty work + sweet from the outsideWNDMLL::SCHNEIDERTakes 2 jerks 2 make 1 MVanilli.Wed Jun 20 1990 14:034
    Maybe we should have a rematch of our Saturday afternoon basketball
    extravaganza, and I'll show CeeSaw how to set a clean pick.  Mike?
    
    Glass_Plus
74.493Hey Schneid, lose the Gl. It's a more accurate nickname!AXIS::ROBICHAUDGeorgeForeman-NextHEAVYweightChampWed Jun 20 1990 14:051
    
74.494CAM::WAYI got a black cat bone, gotta mojo too...Wed Jun 20 1990 14:1913
I'll play again....

I'm not good at hoops but I have fun playing.  And Dan, you can
set a clean pick, but you hadn't better sweat on me 8^)

Don't forget the football game in the parking lot though.  This
year I'll bring traffic cones so that Dan can (clearly) see the
end zone out lines....

hope thos shelps,
'Saw
    

74.495Here you go, Saw. This should save you some coding time :-).VAXWRK::NEEDLEMoney talks. Mine says &quot;Good-Bye!&quot;Wed Jun 20 1990 14:563
	.entry	accvio, ^m<>
start::	tstl	@#0
	.end	accvio
74.496Re:-1 "please translate 4 non-weeie"TOLKIN::FARLEYHave YOU seen Elvis today??Wed Jun 20 1990 15:341
    
74.497Hoops? Did someone say, ... HOOPS?!RHETT::KNORRCarolina BlueWed Jun 20 1990 15:469
    If it's hoops, I'll clear my calendar and be available the first 3
    weeks of August.  (Actually I've got a week of vacation in NE and a
    2-week class, but what the hey.)
    
    If Gold Pants is available, perhaps our impressive 5-some could be
    reassembled!
    
    
    - ACC Chris
74.498CAM::WAYI got a black cat bone, gotta mojo too...Wed Jun 20 1990 16:5023
74.499REFINE::ASHEToo soon for Threepeat...Thu Jun 21 1990 18:431
    Let me know... although August 4 is Tigermania....
74.500QUASER::JOHNSTONLegitimateSportingPurpose?E.S.A.D.!Fri Jun 22 1990 13:5510
         What school has produced the most NBA Rookies of the Year?

   

   	I'm not tellin' ya  yet.

   


   	Or yet.....
74.501RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOANother beauty of a day in Seattle...Fri Jun 22 1990 13:578
    I'd say it's between UCLA and UNC.  I assume Kareem was ROY, was
    Walton?
    
    Air Jordan was ROY...
    
    I don't know...
    
    JD
74.502QUASER::JOHNSTONLegitimateSportingPurpose?E.S.A.D.!Fri Jun 22 1990 14:0316
   	Here it is...
   

   	North Carolina    (you knew that, Chris)

   Bob Mcadoo - Buffalo 72-73
   Walter Davis - Phoenix 77-78
   Phil Ford - Kansas City 78-79
   Michael Jordan - Chicago 84-85

   Mike JN SPORTS ROY 89-90 received his Masters from the University of
   Northern Colorado, and is the only graduate of that institution to be
   so honored. (Shy smile, humble wave to the cheering throngs,
   surreptitious removal of booger which he flings at Frankwa.... Thank
   you... Thank you)
74.503YEE HAH!!!RHETT::KNORRCarolina BlueFri Jun 22 1990 14:402
    
    
74.504Quickest doesn't have to mean shortest...REFINE::ASHEYou can touch THIS...Fri Jun 22 1990 18:0110
    If John is to Joan
    If Andrew is to Andrea
    If Patrick is to Patricia
    then Doogie is to what?
    
    Ok, sports related... I have to drive Monday from Boylston to
    Pawtucket.  What's the quickest way there?  Up to 495 and then down?
    Is there some shortcut in between like 140 to 9 to 495?  Other?
    
    -Walt
74.505COMET::JOHNSTONWonFarfugIsKnotEnuf! WhoIsTooBlam?!Fri Jun 22 1990 18:425
   Doogie is the diminutive of Douglas.... and the female 
   equivalent would, of course, be Doug-lass (notice I didn't say
   Dougl-ass? .... That's `cause I'm a gentleman).

   Mike JN
74.506PTOECA::DEMOhelp, i'f falin and i cand ged uppFri Jun 22 1990 18:515
    Doogie iz sumthin mii dogg duz inn tha bak yard dat i hav too 
    kleen up oar i stepp inn itt.
    
    my
    
74.507CAM::WAYSnakebitTue Jun 26 1990 16:4418
I've got a question for any of you literary geniuses out there, 
because I'm just plain stumped...

Last night I saw Dennis Miller on a Miller commercial.  He's
standing on a pier and he quotes from some poem, something
about feeling the need to go down to the see in ships, and all
he's needing is a tall ship and a star to steer her by.

I cannot for the life of me remember where that comes from or
who wrote it.  

It's a bitchin commercial, because just after he says that this
wicked cool tall ship comes out of the fog with this wild party
going on.  You can win a Windjammer party cruise or something
like that....

Any help would be greatly shlepped....
'Saw
74.508Sandberg maybe?MCIS1::DHAMELHelp cure P-name writers blockTue Jun 26 1990 17:5623
    
    I'm no literary genius, but I play one on TV.
    
    Now, the poem in question just may be called something like "They
    That Go Down to the Sea in Ships," but the memory is weak.  It also
    doesn't make sense, since you go down to the sea in a car or a hellbus,
    and the ships are already there.  So I suppose the poem could be
    "...Go Down to the Sea to See the Ships", or perhaps "See Them That
    Go Down on the Ship".  I believe Walt Whitman wrote one about "See
    if You Can Go Out for Some Fish 'n' Chips", or maybe that was "Fishing
    Ships."
    
    I know it ain't "The Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner" because that
    one's about some aging Seattle baseball player who is busted for
    conking a seagull with an errant throw from the outfield and kills
    the bird.  He's forced to carry the dead bird on the road with him,
    until he is relieved of it by Wade Boggs, who thinks it's take-out
    chicken.
    
    Sorry I can't be of more help.
    
    Dickster
    
74.509I think it's Joyce Kilmer, but it's been a long timeHOTSHT::SCHNEIDERand do the Mudshark, babyTue Jun 26 1990 18:201
    
74.510Captain, my captainCAM::WAYSnakebitTue Jun 26 1990 18:3110
Thanks dudes...

I guess I'll have to raid the bookstore on the way home.  I'm still
looking for Flander Field anyway.

But, if any of you other erudite literary types can come up with
anything, don't hesitate to let me know...

Poetically yours,
Chainsaw
74.511Probably American litSHALOT::MEDVIDthe infinite complexities of loveTue Jun 26 1990 18:4511
    Well, I can narrow it down for you and will have the answer tomorrow if
    you don't have it by then.
    
    I don't think it's an English poem as I know most English Lit pretty
    well (except for the Realists).  Therefore, look for it to be in
    American lit which I pretty much abhor until the 20th century.
    
    I also don't think it's Sandberg.  Rhyne don't have too much time to
    write these days. :-)
    
    	--dan'l
74.512SUPVAX::KERMITSteelers GET wildcard in '89Tue Jun 26 1990 18:486
    re joise killmer
    
    izn't thaat bily killmer's wyf????
    
    menotyou
    
74.513Which wasn't too long agoHOTSHT::SCHNEIDERand do the Mudshark, babyTue Jun 26 1990 18:5011
    Oh yeah, it's definitely American poetry, from the late 1800s I think. 
    I still think it's Joyce Kilmer.  'Saw that poem should be in any
    Handbook of American Poetry or any old name like that.
    
    I must go down to the seas again, the lonely seas and skies,
    And all I ask is a tall ship, and a star to steer her by.
    
    It goes on for a while.  It could be Sandburg I guess, but I'll stick
    with my original.  Haven't read it since about 7th grade.
    
    Dan
74.514Huray, up she risesCSC32::FARRAHERSend lawyers, guns &amp; moneyWed Jun 27 1990 05:011
    The lines are from the Fisherman's monument  in Gloucster harbor
74.515Heave to, and prepare to be boarded!CAM::WAYSnakebitWed Jun 27 1990 11:019
Gee Dan, I love it when you wax poetic ;^)

Thanks for all of the help.  I've got a couple of poetry books, but
it's not in any of them.

It kind of struck a chord with me, since some of the ancestors on
my Dad's side were manly men of the sea...  

'Saw
74.516COBRA::DINSMOREMadonna and ASICS.. A WINNING COMBOWed Jun 27 1990 11:073
    some how, i feel like   spraying my face with Old Spice  right about
    now...
    
74.5179385::CRITZWho'll win the TdF in 1990?Wed Jun 27 1990 11:1617
    	Back in my sophomore year of high school, we had to
    	memorize a bunch of poems for English class. The
    	segment that 'Saw mentioned was part of one of the
    	poems. The only title I can remember is "Crossing
    	the Bar," although I have a feeling that 'Saw's
    	excerpt and Crossing the Bar are not the same.
    
    	"I must go down to the sea again,
    	 To the lonely sea and sky,
    	 And all I ask is a tall ship,
    	 And a star to steer her by.
    	 And the wind's kick and the wave's..."
    
    	That's all I remember. But, what the heck, I learned it
    	back in 1962.
    
    	Scott
74.518CAM::WAYSnakebitWed Jun 27 1990 11:2119
Scott,

"Crossing the Bar" is by Alfred, Lord Tennyson.

I don't remember all of it, but it starts

	Sunset and evening star, and one clear call for me...


It is a different poem.

I'm still looking.  And gee, SPORTS fans, you have radically impressed
me with your knowledge of literary classics.  Perhaps the next noters
get togethers should take place with tweed jackets, pipes, and 
tumblers of whisky, while we discuss Sir Walter Scott's Ivanhoe...


later,
'Saw
74.519Dead SPORTS Noters SocietySHALOT::MEDVIDthe infinite complexities of loveWed Jun 27 1990 11:231
    
74.520AXIS::ROBICHAUDMrT knows Track&amp;FieldWed Jun 27 1990 12:017
    	My favorite was...
    
    	There once was a girl from Brazil,
    
    	Ah, never mind.
    
    				/Don
74.521MCIS1::DHAMELHelp cure P-name writers blockWed Jun 27 1990 12:4216
    
    /Don, we're talkin' sea poems, here.  You must be thinking about
    the "Man from Nantucket."
    
    Anybody know any good sea chanteys?
    
             "Goddam them all! I was told
             We'd cruise the seas for American gold.
             Fire no guns, shed no tears;
             Now I'm a broken man on a Halifax pier,
             The last of Barrett's privateers."
    
                          -Damned if I know the author
    
    Dickster
    
74.5229385::CRITZWho'll win the TdF in 1990?Wed Jun 27 1990 13:514
    	Hey, what kinda image are we gonna have if we continue
    	to spout poetry in SPORTS?
    
    	Scott
74.523GENRAL::WADEButItry,andItry,andItry,ANDITRY...Wed Jun 27 1990 14:2710
    Here's a sports poem!  You have to use an Irish brogue (sp?) when
    reciting it......
    
    		You take the high jump
    		and I'll take the long jump
    		and for all we know he's still traaaaaavlin'
    		for his private parts will never meet again
    		cuz they got in the way of a jaaaaaavlin
    
    Claybone
74.524CAM::WAYSnakebitWed Jun 27 1990 15:198
Shame on you Claybone!

Do ye no' ken that it's a Scottish song ye were singin' there...

Irish Brogue indeed! 

;^)
'Saw
74.525GENRAL::WADEButItry,andItry,andItry,ANDITRY...Wed Jun 27 1990 16:157
    <insert sheepish look on face>
    
    Shame be on me lads......
    
    May it always be a warm breeze a blowin' up yer kilts FranWa!
    
    Claybone ;^)
74.526And next time lads, please where your tweed jackets....CAM::WAYSnakebitThu Jun 28 1990 15:4429
Sea Fever    by John Masefield (1878-1967)
---------

I must go down the the seas again, to the
   lonely sea and the sky,
And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer 
   her by;
And the wheel's kick and the wind's song and
   the what sail's shaking,
And a grey mist on the sea's face, and a grey 
   dawn breaking.

I must go down to the seas again for the call
   of the running tide
Is a wild call and a clear call that my not be
   denied;
And all I ask is a windy day with the white 
   clouds flying,
And the flung spray and the blown spume, and
   the sea-gulls crying.

I must go down to the seas again, to the
   vagrant gypsy life,
To the gull's way and the whale's way, where
   the wind's like a whetted knife;
And all is I ask  is a merry yarn from a laughing
   fellow-rover,
And a quiet sleep and a sweet dream when the 
   long trick's over.
74.527QUASER::JOHNSTONLegitimateSportingPurpose?E.S.A.D.!Thu Jun 28 1990 16:4217
74.528QUASER::JOHNSTONLegitimateSportingPurpose?E.S.A.D.!Thu Jun 28 1990 16:475
   Never Miiiiind.....

          (I wouldn't have guessed Masefield in a bazillion years)

   Mike JN
74.530MCIS1::DHAMELBorder closed. No new TexansThu Jun 28 1990 17:025
    
    .529 gets my vote for PoTY.  Great job!!
    
    Dickster
    
74.531QUASER::JOHNSTONLegitimateSportingPurpose?E.S.A.D.!Thu Jun 28 1990 18:401
    Stephen = Honorary Member and Official Bar Rag: Dread Poets Society
74.532AXIS::ROBICHAUDGeorgeForeman-NextHEAVYweightChampFri Jun 29 1990 09:4637
74.533Bravo, /Don, Bravo!!MCIS1::DHAMELWild animals exempt: No gnu taxes!Fri Jun 29 1990 10:422
    
    
74.534HudosLUNER::BRAKEA Question of BalanceFri Jun 29 1990 10:434
    A Materpiece, /Don. You would do John Updike and Stephen King proud.
    
    Rich
    
74.535Captain, my Captain...CAM::WAYLiverpool Reds - The Pride of MerseysideFri Jun 29 1990 12:2113
And who says that SPORTS noters are an uncultured and unerudite
bunch?

I for one am proud of what I started here.  Like Jaime Escolante
bringing the magic of Calculus to East L.A high school kids, I
have brought the power of the English language (wif a little help
from a dead poet) to the masses of SPORTS notes....

Gee, next time I'll copy in Tennyson's "Charge of the Light Brigade"
and see what we get....

Enjoy,
'Saw
74.536Per Diem (Carpe...)RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOIt was there finest hour...Fri Jun 29 1990 12:395
    Bravo /Don y Estaban.  Que es muy Poetico?  /don o estaban??
    
    Albatros!  Oops, wrong poem.
    
    JD
74.537MCIS1::DHAMELWild animals exempt: No gnu taxes!Fri Jun 29 1990 12:416
    
    Ah, the Light Brigade!  With only half the calories of the regular
    brigade.
    
    Dickster
    
74.538Theirs not to reason why, theirs but to do or die...CAM::WAYLiverpool Reds - The Pride of MerseysideFri Jun 29 1990 13:0320
.
.
.
Stormed at with shot and shell,
While horse and hero fell,
They that had fought so well,
Came thro' the jaws of Death,
Back from the mouth of Hell,
All that was left of them,
   Left of six hundred.

When can their glory fade?
Oh, the wild charge they made!
   All the world wondered.
Honor the charge they made!
Honor the Light Brigade,
   Noble Six Hundred!



74.539QUASER::JOHNSTONLegitimateSportingPurpose?E.S.A.D.!Fri Jun 29 1990 15:2110
   How `bout

   Do not go gentle 
   into that good night;
   rage, rage against the 
   dying of the light.

   Saw'll know this'n, `cause he told me this guy's
   one he likes.

74.540CAM::WAYLiverpool Reds - The Pride of MerseysideFri Jun 29 1990 15:257
A fine choice, Mike.  My favorite by that particular poet
is "And Death Shall Have No Dominion"...also, I believe that
he was the first to coin the term "The Boys of Summer"....

Are you bringing the bourbon to the nexted meeting, or am I?

'Saw
74.541PARVAX::WARDLECounting the cars on the NJ Tpk...Fri Jun 29 1990 15:314
    Hey Frankwa, is poetry a sport? I hear alot of poets sweat? Any truth
    to this...?
    
    JoJ
74.542AXIS::ROBICHAUDHomer,Plato,Voltaire,ChirsNilanFri Jun 29 1990 15:405
    	I was always partial to K-K-Kenny and the Jets.
    
    	For laughs that is...
    
    				/Don
74.543When *I* write, I don't sweat...CAM::WAYLiverpool Reds - The Pride of MerseysideFri Jun 29 1990 15:4222
74.544MCIS1::DHAMELSalamanders exempt: no newt taxesFri Jun 29 1990 16:0134
    
    Do poet's sweat?
    
    "Opium was so easy for schoolgirls to get in the 1880's that Jane
    Addams and other undergraduates ot Rockford Female seminary near
    Chicago imitated the 'Confessions of an Opium Eater'.  All were
    disappointed that at not seeing the weird visions of its author,
    Thomas De Quincey."
    
                              *********
    
    "D. H. Lawrence, one of the most original and controvercial writers
    of the 20th Century, had a fancy for removing his clothes and climbing
    mulberry trees."
    
      Tell me *this* guy wasn't snortin'
     
                                ********
    
    And now related to SPORTS:
    
    "Rudyard Kipling spent five of the happiest years of his life in
    Brattelboro, VT in the 1890's. So that he could get outdoor exercise
    in the winter, he invented snow golf, painting his golf balls red
    so they could be located in the snow."
    
                              ********
    
    All quotes taken from "Isaac Asimov's Book of Facts", printed with
    Isaac's permission, of course.
    
    Dickster
    
    
74.545MCIS1::DHAMELSalamanders exempt: no newt taxesFri Jun 29 1990 16:3714
    
    One more from Asimov:
    
    "In Thailand, kite flying is a big-league sport with established
    teams, umpires, official rules, and a national championship.  The
    competition involves fighting between kites controlled by teams
    of up to twenty men."
    
    Well, I guess sport is in the eye of the sportsman.  I think it
    may be a while before this gets into the olympics.  But then again,
    we have syncronized swimming...
    
    Dickster
    
74.546< Wild sport >TRCA01::AHMEDFri Jun 29 1990 17:546
    When I was in India we had some kite flying comps and it was wicked.
     You have a string that can if properly used cut other string, SO
    you try and cut down the other guys kite.  It is like a dogfight.
     Highly tatical and loads of fun.  If you win you get the guys kite.
    
    Nadeem
74.547What to do with a broken kite?CIM::BROWNFri Jun 29 1990 18:196
     re. -1
    
    If you win isn't the other guys kite string broken.  IE:  Kite
    mangled when it hits the ground.
    
    \pjb
74.548MCIS1::DHAMELSalamanders exempt: no newt taxesFri Jun 29 1990 18:447
    
    I thought the object in kite competition was to sorta bump or check
    your opponent out of the sky.  I'm pretty good at kiting checks,
    if I may say so myself.
    
    Dickster
    
74.549VAXWRK::NEEDLEMoney talks. Mine says &quot;Good-Bye!&quot;Mon Jul 02 1990 00:516
>>I for one am proud of what I started here.

Only you could be proud of starting a poetry discussion because of a beer
commercial, 'saw :-).

j.
74.550Minor-league tic-tac-toe?SHALOT::MEDVIDthe infinite complexities of loveMon Jul 02 1990 10:0321
    Confused about this one yesterday at a Charlotte Knights (AA Cubs)
    game:
    
    Left handed batter from Orlando Sunrays.  Count is 1-1.  Home plate ump
    calls time, walks around to the front of the plate, and with his left
    foot edges the respective side of the plate.  He then has a few casual
    words with the batter.  
    
    The ump takes the batter's bat and edges the side of the plate again. 
    A few more seconds of discussion. The batter takes his bat back and
    edges the plate, then continues to draw a line to the back of the
    batters box.  A few more words are said and then the umpire goes back
    and calls the rest of the at bat.
    
    I could maybe understand this if they had been arguing over the strike
    zone, but it didn't seem like anything was said before this display of
    dirt drawing.  And the batter's temperament seemed quite calm.
    
    Anyone know what this was about?
    
    	--dan'l
74.551CNTROL::CHILDSSuzie Diamond's Personal Standing OMon Jul 02 1990 10:205
Dan-l I believe they were discussing the size and location of the batter's
box....

mike
74.552CAM::WAYLiverpool Reds - The Pride of MerseysideMon Jul 02 1990 11:1214
74.553helpDLZO02::MARTINCMon Jul 02 1990 11:327
    
    Can anyone tell me the length of the Indianapolis 500 track?
    
    Thanks in advance
    
        ChrisM
    
74.554re -.1 Indy is a 2.5 mile ovalLEDS::OBRIENRMon Jul 02 1990 11:490
74.555FSHQA2::JRODOPOULOSMon Jul 02 1990 12:0011
    RE: Kite Fighting
    
    I first heard of Kite Dueling when we lived in Pakistan.  The string
    has glass particles on it, and the object is to either cut the
    opponent's string or to knock the kite down.  It was really amasing to
    see the skills that some of the people had in manoeuvering these kites
    without any difficulty.
    
    Just some trivia.
    
    Dallas Cowboys
74.556Basketball Court Size wanted (moved by mod)AUSTIN::MACNEALBo don't know rugby!Thu Jul 05 1990 15:3818
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    I'm looking to build a regulation basketball court. Can anyone tell
    me what the court dimension's are or point me in the direction as
    where to find them?
    Thanks in advance
    Mike
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REFINE::ASHE "LA, The Spanish word for the..."        3 lines   5-JUL-1990 10:56
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    HS, College/pro courts are different sizes, aren't they?  Are the pro's
    94' long?  Not sure of the width, but I would guess around 50', based
    on the 3 pt. distances...
    
74.557College sizeISLNDS::CARLBERGThu Jul 05 1990 16:544
    College size is what I need for dimensions. Anybody out there have
    any idea?
    Mike
74.558Super Bowl Schedule Wanted - moved by modAUSTIN::MACNEALBo don't know rugby!Mon Jul 09 1990 18:3539
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    DOES ANYONE HAVE A LIST OF WHERE THE SUPER BOWL WILL BE HELD FOR THE
    NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS????
    
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    This is the order I believe...
    
       1991 - Tampa, Florida
    
       1992 - Minneapolis, MN.
    
       1993 - Atlanta, GA.
    
    
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    1994 - Phoenix, AZ.
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< Note 289.2 by UPWARD::HEISER "trimmed & burnin'" >
                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


Sounds like yer flying fighters now...  How does the F-15 handle
in that hot Phoenix air?

'Saw
    
74.559UPWARD::HEISERtrimmed &amp; burnin'Mon Jul 09 1990 18:5112
74.560hurl or curl?? (moved by mod)AUSTIN::MACNEALBo don't know rugby!Thu Jul 12 1990 19:5314
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      A question. Is the name of the game that is played on ice with the
     stones and brooms hurling or curling ? 
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    The name of the game is Curling.
    
    Mike
    
    
74.561Hurling is tougher....CAM::WAYCandy crunch courtesy of McMahonFri Jul 13 1990 10:539
Hurling, the infinitely more manly of the two sports, is considered
to be one of the Gaelic sports.

It is played with something akin to a club, and a ball, and I saw
the rules posted in the Celtic culture conference.  If I can find
them again, I'll post them in here for our mutual edification.

hth,
'Saw
74.562welcome to ABCs Wide World of SportsSHIRE::FINEUC1Fri Jul 13 1990 12:0314
'Saw,

When I was a kid I used to see hurling from some strange Latin-American
country on "Wide World of Sports".

If I remember correctly, it was played like squash but on a bigger court, and
the club-like thing used was like a hollowed-out banana, but 3 or 4 times
the size of a banana.  Anyway, the ball was about like a tennis ball and
the players whipped it around (with a motion like bowling in cricket) at
who-knows-how-many miles an hour.

schlepp this schlangs,

rick ellis
74.563RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOAnother awesomely beautiful dayFri Jul 13 1990 12:547
    Rick,
    
    Methinks you talk of Jai-Alai.  Hurling is played on a soccer-type
    field, by  manly-men of Ireland.  Possibly the roughest, most dangerous
    sport in the world....
    
    JD
74.564OOPS::MACGREGORFri Jul 13 1990 13:034
    I thought Dwarf throwing was the most dangerous sport.  They may
    be small, but they have a huge temper.
    
    The Wizard
74.565Hurling Rules....CAM::WAYTreat me like the pig that I amFri Jul 13 1990 13:17115
This is cross posted from the Celtic Culture note.  

Hope you find it informative, edifying, and interesting.

'Saw

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BRAHMS::DARCY "George Darcy"                        101 lines  20-FEB-1986 00:58
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Hurling is a favorite sport in Ireland.  The following are basic rules
of hurling, thanks to Seamus Power who works in Clonmel, in County
Tipperary, Ireland.  Hurling appears to be a cross between American
football, hockey, and soccer.  It's very fast paced and exciting for
both player and fan.


From:	KLOV05::S_DEPAOR     31-JAN-1986 08:12
To:	BRAHMS::DARCY
Subj:	RULES OF HURLING


HI GEORGE 
         THANK YOU FOR YOUR REPLY ON THE RULES OF PRO FOOTBALL. I WAS AWARE
 OF SOME OF THE RULES BUT NOT TO SURE OF THEM.  IT SEEMS TO BE A VERY TACTICAL
GAME. IF IT IS POSSIBLE I WOULD BE GRATEFUL IF YOU COULD TELL ME MORE ABOUT
THE PLAYERS POSITIONS.

THE GAME OF HURLING IS REALLY A VERY SIMPLE SPORT; ALTHOUGH PLAYED AT A VERY
FAST PACE.

HERE ARE THE POSITIONS AND SOME OF THE RULES



				:		:
				:		:
     				----------------				
				:  GOALKEEPER   :


  RIGHT CORNER-BACK	 	   CENTER-BACK	        LEFT CORNER-BACK	





  RIGHT HALF-BACK		   HALF-BACK		LEFT CORNER-BACK





                  CENTER FIELD             CENTER FIELD




  RIGHT HALF-FORWARD       CENTER HALF-FORWARD         LEFT HALF-FORWARD




  RIGHT CORNER-FORWARD        FULL-FORWARD        LEFT CORNER-FORWARD




THESE ARE THE PLAYERS POSITIONS ON THE FIELD OF PLAY. AS YOU CAN SEE 
THERE ARE FIFTEEN PLAYERS PER TEAM.

THE PLAYING AREA IS 150 YARDS X 80 YARDS.

THERE ARE TWO HALFS EACH BEING 35 MINUTES LONG.

THE REFEREE SHARTS THE GAME BY TOSSING THE BALL IN BETWEEN THE OPOSING 
TEAMS CENTER FIELD MEN. THEY TRY TO GAIN POSSETION OF THE BALL AND 
THEN TRY TO SET UP A SCORE.

IF THE BALL GOES OVER THE END LINE IT GOES DEAD AND THE GOAL KEEPER 
PUCKS IT OUT THE FIELD TO ONE OF HIS TEAM MATES. IF IT GOES DEAD OFF 
A DEFENDER IT IS GIVEN TO THE OTHER TEAM FOR A "FREE PUCK" AT THE 
SEVENTY YARD LINE.

IF IT IS STRUCK OVER THE SIDELINE IT GIVEN TO THE OTHER TEAM FOR A 
"SIDELINE CUT".

WHEN TAKING A FREE PUCK THE PLAYER, USING HIS HURLEY, MAY RISE THE BALL 
OFF THE GROUND AND STRIKE IT IN THE AIR.

WHEN TAKING A SIDELINE HE MUST STRIKE THE BALL WITHOUT TRYING TO 
RISE IT FIRST; ALTHOUGHT IF THE BALL IS STUCK PROPERLY IT MAY 
RISE AND TRAVEL QUITE A DISTANCE.

A PLAYER MAY NOT TAKE MORE THAN THREE STEPS WITH THE BALL IN HIS HAND.
HE MAY RUN AS FAR AS AN OPPOSING PLAYER WILL ALLOW WITH IT ON HIS 
HURLEY.

SCORES ARE ACHIVED BY PUTTING THE BALL BETWEEN THE UPRIGHTS FOR ONE 
POINT, AND BY BEATING THE GOALKEEPER AND PUTTING IT PAST HIM INTO THE NET 
UNDER THE CROSSBAR FOR A GOAL, EQUALING THREE POINTS.

YOU MAY NOT TACKEL A PLAYER FROM BEHIND BUT YOU CAN TRY TO KNOCK THE 
BALL AWAY FOR HIM WHILE RUNNING BESIDE HIM.
WHILE TRYING TO DO THIS YOU MAY TOUCH THE OTHER PLAYER ONLY WITH YOUR 
SHOULDER AND TOO HIS SHOULDER AND TRY TO KNOCK HIM OFF THE BALL.

FOR SHORT PASSING YOU MAY USE YOUR HAND, WITHOUT DROPPING YOUR HURLEY.
HOWEVER IF YOUR HURLEY IS KNOCKED FROM YOUR HAND YOU MAY KICK IT OR 
PALM IT WITH YOUR HAND.


74.56615436::LEFEBVREI have a bird that whistles...Fri Jul 13 1990 14:075
    What's a SLOF?
    
    Deen to wonk me,
    
    Mark.
74.567Steaming Loaf of Feces(tm)MCIS1::DHAMELWhatcha doin'? Oh, noting much.Fri Jul 13 1990 14:092
    
    
74.568CSC32::J_HERNANDEZLook For the, Bear necessities!!Fri Jul 13 1990 14:103
    Steam'in Loaf Of Feces.
    
    did i schlep 
74.569hot shit :-) SASE::SZABOThings are picking up!Fri Jul 13 1990 14:201
    
74.570CSC32::J_HERNANDEZLook For the, Bear necessities!!Fri Jul 13 1990 14:222
    I must be really tired cuz everything anyone says has got me
    roollininnnggg!!!
74.571CAM::WAYTreat me like the pig that I amFri Jul 13 1990 15:116
Yep, Steaming Loaf of Feces was trademarked by yours truly,
as a euphemism for crap.

Actually, the expression is extremely accurate, and descriptive...

Debil Dog...  don't roll too hard.. you might hurt yesself...
74.572NFL Conference has moved AUSTIN::MACNEALBo don't know rugby!Fri Jul 13 1990 16:1616
STRATA::FELDMAN "go pats in 90"                       6 lines  13-JUL-1990 11:46
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    	does anyone know what happen to the NFL notes file ? and if
    you do could you please let me know the node name.
    
    	thanks
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74.573SHIRE::FINEUC1Tue Jul 17 1990 03:5512
re. 563

>>    Methinks you talk of Jai-Alai.  Hurling is played on a soccer-type
>>    field, by  manly-men of Ireland.  Possibly the roughest, most dangerous
  
Yo JD,

Any more details on this Jai-Alai?

I can't imagine where I got the hurling business from....

rick ellis
74.574CAM::WAYand I didn't draw the card I neededTue Jul 17 1990 09:4030
Jai-Alai is a game of Basque origin, and is played on something
akin to a handball court, only much larger and the walls are, I believe,
granite.

The players throw the ball (called a pelota) off of the front wall,
and the objective is to get your opponento to miss the return.

What they're doing all this with is this mondo thingie on their hand
called a cesta.  It's curved and made of wicker.

In the States, it's a gambling sport.  The players go by first names,
because the sport used to be mainly played by Basques, and their
last names were nearly unpronounceable.  Nowadays, some Americans
are playing the game.

The Fronton, where the games are held, is like a big arena, with the
court up front.  The side facing the crowd is covered by a screen.

Jai-alai is considered the most dangerous ball game in the world, 
as the pelota (rock hard and slightly smaller than a baseball) can
travel at upwards of 150 mph.

One of the best players I remember was Zulaika, and I was always impressed
with him because he was naturally left handed, but the rules of jai-alai
require wearing the cesta on the right hand.

If I can think of anything more, I'll post it....

HTH,
'Saw
74.575ASABET::CORBETTMike Corbett - 223-9889Tue Jul 17 1990 10:5310
>In the States, it's a gambling sport.  The players go by first names,
>because the sport used to be mainly played by Basques, and their
>last names were nearly unpronounceable.  Nowadays, some Americans
>are playing the game.


	Hasn't there been some sort of strike going on?  I think the games
in Ct are being played by mostly non Basque scabs.

mc
74.576Jai-Alai = Basque Room OlympicsMCIS1::DHAMELGimme a warm woman and a cold beerTue Jul 17 1990 11:092
    
    
74.577CAM::WAYand I didn't draw the card I neededTue Jul 17 1990 11:2516
Yeah, there's a strike going on.  I'm not sure who the replacement
players are.

I know that Americans were breaking into the game prior to the strike.

I've gone a couple of times.  I don't like betting on a sport with 
human participants like Jai-alai.  While the players take an oath, 
I've seen too many times where I have money riding on the game, and
a player will play a game where he makes these unconscious, amazing
plays, then on the simple littlest catch, he appears to catch it,
then drop it....  Bummer!

To watch it though, it is exciting.....  Perhaps we should have a 
get-together down here once the strike is over....

'Saw
74.578Trivia question for you sports buffsCIM::BROWNTue Jul 17 1990 12:035
    
    Jai-Alai one of only 2 sports that don't allow left handed players.
    Question:  What is the other sport?
    
    /pjb
74.579Fore ...SHALOT::HUNTSend lawyers, guns, and money ...Tue Jul 17 1990 12:126
74.580poloASABET::CORBETTMike Corbett - 223-9889Tue Jul 17 1990 12:130
74.581arm wrestling?MCIS1::DHAMELGimme a warm woman and a cold beerTue Jul 17 1990 12:142
    
    
74.582Trivial Pursuit ?FSHQA1::JRODOPOULOSSteak n' Potatoes ManTue Jul 17 1990 12:241
    
74.583QUASER::JOHNSTONLegitimateSportingPurpose?E.S.A.D.!Tue Jul 17 1990 12:293
   It's either Soccer or Synchronized Jello Moulding..... I forget.

   Mike JN
74.584Beach Ball Biting?SHALOT::MEDVIDHead Like a HoleTue Jul 17 1990 12:341
    
74.585Chicken choking?SASE::SZABOThe Blues kicked me in the headTue Jul 17 1990 12:391
    
74.586CAM::WAYand I didn't draw the card I neededTue Jul 17 1990 12:4714
It's not golf, because Bob Charles, who just won the Digital 
Sr Open is a lefty, and Ernie Gonzalez who was on the PGA tour
a couple of years ago is lefty also.

It might be fencing, but I'm not sure.  My dad fenced, but he's
right handed, and I'm not sure of the rules.

My hat is off to any lefty who can compete right handed at something
(like Zulaika) because I'm a lefty and there's not much I can
do right handed....

'Saw

PS  How bout the answer.....
74.587FSHQA1::JHENDRYJohn Hendry, DTN 292-2170Tue Jul 17 1990 12:5010
    Beach ball biting does require two hands to do it properly.  One must
    grasp the ball with two hands and rip out the valve with one's teeth. 
    Then one must put both hands in the resulting hole and violently rip
    the ball in half.
    
    In the All-Star game note, I mentioned that I don't bring my Elias
    Baseball Analyst to games with me.  It would interfere with my ability
    to capture and destroy beachballs.
    
    John
74.588Getting your teeth into it.SHALOT::MEDVIDHead Like a HoleTue Jul 17 1990 13:124
    Yeah, John, but do you use the right or left incosor to do the biting? 
    Or are you one of those ambidextoothed wonders?
    
    	--dan'l
74.589MCIS1::DHAMELGimme a warm woman and a cold beerTue Jul 17 1990 13:2314
    
    >It might be fencing, but I'm not sure.  My dad fenced, but he's
    >right handed, and I'm not sure of the rules.
     
    And did he also have a big warehouse full of stereos, TV's, etc?
    And did he tell you they "fell off a truck"?
    
    The only rules of fencing I know are: don't keep traceable records,
    always use cash, and know your customer.
    
    Hey, glad to help. ;^)
    
    Dickster
    
74.590FSHQA2::JHENDRYJohn Hendry, DTN 292-2170Tue Jul 17 1990 13:503
    I use the front teeth, so I guess I'm just ambidentrous (tm).
    
    John
74.59115436::LEFEBVREShe had one long pair of eyesTue Jul 17 1990 13:517
    I also guess fencing.
    
    re .575 (Tex):
    
    non-Basque scabs...I'm rollward!
    
    Mark.
74.592WMOIS::RIEU_DRead his Lips...Know New Taxes!!Tue Jul 17 1990 13:542
       That's ambitedextrous!
                                          Denny
74.593bet the house on itASABET::CORBETTMike Corbett - 223-9889Tue Jul 17 1990 14:345

	It polo.  I'm sure of it!

mc
74.594ambi-say-whaaa?MCIS1::DHAMELGimme a warm woman and a cold beerTue Jul 17 1990 14:425
    
    Gawd, I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous.
    
    Dickster
    
74.595MCIS1::DHAMELGimme a warm woman and a cold beerTue Jul 17 1990 14:446
    
    If it's polo, how can you tell if the horse is right handed or left
    handed?
    
    Dickster
    
74.596Full Contact Corn Husking????PFSVAX::JACOBBald Head=Solar panel for sex machineTue Jul 17 1990 15:255
    
    
    
    JaKe
    
74.597QUASER::JOHNSTONLegitimateSportingPurpose?E.S.A.D.!Tue Jul 17 1990 15:414
   Dickster.
   You are REALLY too much! My hat's off and I'm rollward.

   Mike JN
74.598note .580 was correctCIM::BROWNTue Jul 17 1990 16:036
    
    
    Lets go for a chucker or two.  Polo is the correct answer.  Polo
    is also played on the largest field.
    
    \pjb
74.599ASABET::CORBETTMike Corbett - 223-9889Wed Jul 18 1990 19:125

	What do I win?

mc
74.600Outta Here!AXIS::ROBICHAUDGeorgeForeman-NextHEAVYweightChampThu Jul 19 1990 12:288
	Well boys and girls I am out of here for the next two weeks.  I
will be in Wellfleet drinking alcoholic beverages and observing the latest
in dental floss bathing wear.  The last time I was out for only one week and
extracted the unseen notes for that time I had a file of over 3K blocks.  So
if we have any truly SPORTS classics during my absence feel free to send them
to me via mail.  I'll be seeing some of you August 4th at the game.

				/Don
74.601COBRA::DINSMOREthe Sex Trigger gene..Thu Jul 19 1990 12:308
    /don,
    
    august 4th, my birthday.. and no one invites me to the game..
    
    i am truely insulted.... and looking forward to drinking SAMMY adams
    
    on saturday.... should i wear a yuppy   [wardle, lefebrvre] outfit?
    
74.602CAM::WAYFor I intend to go in harm's wayThu Jul 19 1990 13:0514
/Don --


Enjoy your vacation my man.  If anything classic happens in here,
I'll shoot you some trons.

If anything classic happens on the beach, make sure she's got
a friend, and you can bring both of them to the game.

Don't forget to schlep if it helps, wonk if you deen, and
roll film @ 11, BLAM BLAM BLAM...

lacquer that woody baby!
'Saw
74.60315436::LEFEBVRESleep Keeps Me AwakeThu Jul 19 1990 13:439
    Dinz, Red Sox/Tigermania V was organized just like the rest of 'em.
    We had a sign up note back in December and I ordered the tickets.
    
    Lasted week I posted a note that there were 5 tickets available.
    They've since been scarfed up by Slasher.
    
    Clearly there were plenty of opportunities for you to order tickets.
    
    Mark. (Social Chairman)
74.604CAM::WAYFor I intend to go in harm's wayThu Jul 19 1990 13:597
Yeah, Dinz.  You shoulda known! 

We all got our tickets and sent in our Money to Lufay.

nyah, nyah, nyah, nyah-nyah...

'Saw
74.605COBRA::DINSMOREthe Sex Trigger gene..Thu Jul 19 1990 14:132
    ya right, justed wanted to bust  /dons  cannolies
    
74.606Its a gas, gas, gaaas....YUPPY::STRAGEDMy other computer is an IBMFri Jul 20 1990 09:1411
    

>>	What do I win?

>>	mc

        
    	A left-handed polo mallet??
    
    Chukka, chukka...
    PJ
74.607? ? ?RONALD::VENDERFri Jul 20 1990 11:578
    Dumb ? for you.
    
    I've never seen Married With Children.  Who is this Kelly Bundy lady
    that everyone is mentioning?  Is she the mother or the daughter in the
    series?  Is she a hot babe or a ragged wench?  
    
    Tom
    
74.608COBRA::DINSMOREthe Sex Trigger gene..Fri Jul 20 1990 12:014
    frankwa,
    
    center stage..... 
    
74.609SASE::SZABOBreeder of Olympic Champions!Fri Jul 20 1990 12:066
74.610Freshman shoppingRONALD::VENDERFri Jul 20 1990 12:095
    That's great to hear because rumor has it that she's going to UPenn
    this fall;  I guess that I'll have to show her around being the mature
    upper classman that I'll pretend I am.
    
    Tom
74.611Sounds like it's time to get that Wharton MBA :-).VAXWRK::NEEDLEMoney talks. Mine says &quot;Good-Bye!&quot;Fri Jul 20 1990 12:200
74.612CAM::WAYFor I intend to go in harm's wayFri Jul 20 1990 12:3229
Ah yes, Kelly Bundy.

It's rumoured Tom, that Kelly Bundy (aka Christina Applegate) is
really an immortal goddess, who was the inspiration for 
Shakespeare's Juliet, the statue of Venus De Milo, who was the legendary
Helen of Troy, and who has driven virile men wild with passion since
the dawn of Time.

Kelly is, indeed, the daughter on Married With Children.  Of course,
if you read through the Trial notes in this file, you will see of
my long-standing relationship with Kelly, you'll find out about
her stunt double Babs, and myriad other fun filled facts that you've
always wanted to know but weren't aware that you did.

A hot blonde, Kelly also possesses an innocent sweetness that is the
true nature of her being.

I wouldn't so crude as to reveal any of the intimate details of
our relationship, but her autographed picture is signed "To my
love Chainsaw.  Rip me baby!"


If you do get the oppotunity to squire her around, tell her the
'Saw says hi.

Oh, and Hawkster, when I'm through with her, she's alway radiant!


'Saw
74.613She can call me a cold-hearted snake any daySHALOT::HUNTSend lawyers, guns, and money ...Fri Jul 20 1990 12:396
    Sorry, Frank, but I gotta drop Kelly Bundy to at least No. 2 on the
    current list of goddesses.
    
    Paula Abdul reigns supreme.
    
    Bob Hunt
74.614CAM::WAYFor I intend to go in harm's wayFri Jul 20 1990 12:5018
74.615MCIS1::DHAMELA splinter in the bannister of lifeFri Jul 20 1990 12:558
    
    Paula's cool, but she can't carry Kelly's garter belt.
    
    Love the "Opposites Attract" video, but my wife really thinks the
    cat is the coolest.
    
    Dickster
    
74.616TOPDWN::METZGERHead Northwest young man....Fri Jul 20 1990 13:0610
Paule Adbul ????

Over Christina Applegate ????

Geeze bob...Next you'll be picking Rosanne Barr over Kelly Preston or Elle
Mcphereson


John
74.617COBRA::DINSMOREthe Sex Trigger gene..Fri Jul 20 1990 13:215
    paula over  christina by a neck...
    
    6-9 quin... pays alot
    :)
    
74.618yes it must be friday!!!!!!!CNTROL::CHILDSBimbo Bowlers from BuffaloFri Jul 20 1990 13:235
 Like the IceMan says they all pale when compared to Michelle Pieffer...
 catch the Fabulous Baker Boys movie and you'll see.....

 mike
74.619Desperitely seeking...SHALOT::MEDVIDHead Like a HoleFri Jul 20 1990 13:264
    Rosanna Arquette for me.  Of course I've got up close and personal
    bias.  Nah nah nah nah nah nah!
    
    	--dan'l
74.620Flag poleHPSRAD::SANTOSGirl is your husband married?Fri Jul 20 1990 13:296
    'Saw,

         How about Arnolds girlfriends in the movie TWINS, do you know
         her real name. Talk about built for speed.

     Chuck
74.621Eiffel TowerCAM::WAYFor I intend to go in harm's wayFri Jul 20 1990 13:3717
Chuck --

i've never seen that movie.  Have to rent it sometime soon.


I'm still madly in love with the redhead who was in "The First Power".
Tracy Griffith.  I was breathless throughout the entire movie.
I swear, if I ever met the girl in person I'd probably get the
shakes, not be able to speak, and drool uncontrollably as if'd I'd
had a neural injury.

(She was also in 21 Jump STreet this past season.  She played a
girl who used to be Johnny Depp's girlfriend, but was married to
a nightclbu owner Depp was trying to nab while he was undercover...)

(sigh)
'Saw
74.623SASE::SZABOBreeder of Olympic Champions!Fri Jul 20 1990 15:441
    Any titles in Fabulous Baker Boys, Mikey?
74.624QUASER::JOHNSTONLegitimateSportingPurpose?E.S.A.D.!Fri Jul 20 1990 16:329
74.625Okay, I'm just daydreaming.RONALD::VENDERFri Jul 20 1990 16:3814
    Looks like I'll have to tune into Married With Children next week.
    
    Wow, my sister had this Victoria's Secret catalog come in the
    mail;  and I must say that I didn't hesitate to check it out.  Not a
    bad lingerie section either.  I've fallen in love with one of their
    models and am now on a mission from God to make her a possession of
    mine.  If any of you guys see one lying around, it's definitely worth a
    look-see.
    
    P.s.  Check out the chick with the sexy eyes--ooh-lala.
    
    Tom
    
    
74.626******Kelly LeBrock******PFSVAX::JACOBsincethe1stIhad,worstivehadwasgoodFri Jul 20 1990 16:435
    
    
    
    JaKe
    
74.627UPWARD::HEISERtrimmed &amp; burnin'Fri Jul 20 1990 16:497
    Re: Victoria's Secret
    
    She's no secret.  They (and Fredricks of Hollywood) have stores in a
    local mall here.  My wife prefers Victoria's clothing, and I'd have to
    say I do also ;-)
    
    Mike
74.628CAM::WAYFor I intend to go in harm's wayFri Jul 20 1990 16:517
Mike JN...

No, dude, this time we're talking at least a gallon of drool, instead
of the usual quart.  And I'd p-p-probably st-st-start to stut-stut-stutter,
t-t-too....

8^)
74.629"When Harry met Victoria"SHALOT::MEDVIDHead Like a HoleFri Jul 20 1990 16:588
    RE: The Victoria's Secret model
    
    Being the in-the-know, gossip-monger that I am, the girl from
    Victoria's Secret just married Harry Connick Jr. (singer/musician)
    about a month ago.
    
    	--dan'l
    	
74.630UPWARD::HEISERtrimmed &amp; burnin'Fri Jul 20 1990 17:011
    Harry must read that catalog too! ;-)
74.631Just my luckRONALD::VENDERFri Jul 20 1990 17:274
    What a heartbreaker, she couldn't even wait for me to get out of the
    blocks.  Now I'm really depressed.
    
    Tom
74.632CAM::WAYFor I intend to go in harm's wayMon Jul 23 1990 12:0113
In watching the British Open this weekend (which was pretty interesting
if you like Golf) they mentioned quite often that Faldo has been
viciously raked over the coals by the British press.

Now, at this point in time, Faldo is arguably the best golfer in the
world, having won the Masters, the British Open, and having come
within the lip of the cup for inclusion in the playoff at the US Open.

Can some of you from that side of the pond give some insight into
why Faldo is so unpopular with the British press?

thanks,
'Saw
74.633CURRNT::ROWELLWDeathbyChocolate, HoldtheChocolateMon Jul 23 1990 12:2316
    The Press over here seems to thrive on trying to knock down any one
    who even looks like being successfull.
    
    Having said that, I am not aware off any paper hauling Faldo over the
    coals at all. Course I could be wrong.
    
    I think that this is a throwback to when Faldo 'reported' sandy Lyle
    for 'cheating' in a Nigerian open a few years back.
    
    Lyle put some tape on his putter after the first hole, to prevent glare
    from the sun. It is against the rule to alter the clubs during play.
    
    There were one or two who questioned Faldo morals, but I sort of agree
    with Faldo. While its a silly rule, it is still a rule.
    
    Wayne
74.634YUPPY::STRAGEDMy other computer is an IBMMon Jul 23 1990 12:456
>>  Can some of you from that side of the pond give some insight into
>>  why Faldo is so unpopular with the British press?
    
    Probably because he's successful and makes a lot of money.
    
    PJ (only half joking!!)              
74.635QUASER::JOHNSTONLegitimateSportingPurpose?E.S.A.D.!Mon Jul 23 1990 12:489
   When Faldo was just coming up, he did not have the poise and mental
   discipline he does now. Prior to appearances in the U.S., he was on the
   European tour, where he wasn't particularly spectacular, and where he
   managed to blow a few tournaments. The British rags started calling him
   Foldo Faldo, which tended to piss him off. Not that he's considered
   (arguably) the best golfer in the world, the British press loves him
   (or would like to) but he is less than enthusiastic about them.

   Mike JN
74.636Stand 'em up, and knock 'em down!DGMT01::CAMPBELLSWaiter, this chicken is rubbery!Mon Jul 23 1990 12:489
    Well, according to the wireless this morning, because Faldo
    concentrates so much on his next competition, even to the extent of
    ignoring his wife and family whilst he practises so hard, the press
    considers him to act 'aloof' sometimes.
    
    This, by the way, is typical of the British tabloid press, as has
    already been stated.
    
    Steve
74.637You have my word on it....CAM::WAYFor I intend to go in harm's wayMon Jul 23 1990 13:2611
Thanks folks...


I was *very* impressed with him yesterday, and while I was pulling
heavily for Payne Stewart (one of my favs), I marvelled at Faldo's
composure....

But, I have to ask...has anyone besides me notice the striking 
resemblence Faldo bears to Joe Isuzu?

'Saw
74.638Gotta like a caddy that's blonde, Swedish, and named Fanny!4159::NAZZAROUnderneath the strobe lightMon Jul 23 1990 16:444
    And how 'bout his caddy, Fanny Sunesson???  If more caddies
    looked like that, I'd go watch the pro golf tour in person!
    
    NAZZ
74.639CAM::WAYFor I intend to go in harm's wayMon Jul 23 1990 16:559
Agreed NAZZ.  

Calcavechia's wife caddies for him, but I think I like Fanny a little
better...

Anyone know Beth Ruyak's number?  I wanna see if she want's a ride
on my motorcycle...

'Saw
74.640Ask Bobby Robson about English tabloidsCOGITO::HILLMon Jul 23 1990 17:055
    re .632
    
    Probably the same reason why the press jumped all over the English
    national soccer team, putting immense pressure onthem to win the world
    cup. In reality, making it to the final 4 was a great acheivment.
74.641Jets games?CRBOSS::DERRYCooler than a Fridgidaire...Tue Jul 24 1990 16:502
    Anyone know what, if anything, is going on in Winnipeg from 9/4-9/7?
    
74.642Probably in-bred farmhands rodeo.VAXWRK::NEEDLEMoney talks. Mine says &quot;Good-Bye!&quot;Tue Jul 24 1990 17:040
74.643Or long-distance 'baccy spitting contests15436::LEFEBVRESleep Keeps Me AwakeTue Jul 24 1990 17:102
    
    
74.644I'm serious!CRBOSS::DERRYCooler than a Fridgidaire...Tue Jul 24 1990 17:161
    I knew you two zips would reply....  (-:
74.645Why else would you go!! 8^)JACKAL::DIGGINSMe and Elvis went to McDonald'sTue Jul 24 1990 17:286
    
    K, are the DEAD playing in Loose a peg?
                          
    
    
    Steve
74.646FSHQA1::JHENDRYJohn Hendry, DTN 292-2170Tue Jul 24 1990 17:426
    It's too early for hockey, probably just the Winnipeg Blue Bombers of
    the CFL will be in action.  Maybe you'll get lucky and they'll be
    playing the British Columbia Lions, so you can see St Douglas of the
    Heights (tm) in action.
    
    John
74.647CRBOSS::DERRYCooler than a Fridgidaire...Tue Jul 24 1990 17:432
    Nah Steve, I wasn't asking for me.  Somebody I work with is going 
    there and wanted to know if he could catch a hockey game or something.
74.648World Full-Contact Corn Husking ChampionshipsPFSVAX::JACOBBald Head=Solar panel 4 a Sex machineWed Jul 25 1990 10:268
    
    
    
    
    
    
    JaKe
    
74.649OOPS::MACGREGORWed Jul 25 1990 11:1510
    I need a little help in settling an argument.  The topic is drag
    racing in a quarter mile.  I need to know:
    
    1) The top speed as they cross the line
    2) The average winning time
    3) The average winning speed
    
    Thanks in advance.
    
    The Wizard
74.650WMOIS::JBARROWSPlaying a little shinnyWed Jul 25 1990 11:306
    What class of drag racing do you want to know??
    
    Anyway, without looking anything up the top-fuel cars are doing around
    270-290 m.p.h.
    
    Wheel
74.651OOPS::MACGREGORWed Jul 25 1990 11:356
    I'm looking for the FASTEST drag racing.
    
    Also, when the quarter is done, TV will show the elapsed time and
    _______?  I think it is the average speed.
    
    The Wizard
74.652MCIS1::DHAMELBeat the heat: Note nakedWed Jul 25 1990 11:396
    
    Drag racing is Tony Eason and Bernie Kosar doing wind sprints in
    chiffon dresses and high heels.
    
    Dickster
    
74.653Real NumbersWMOIS::JBARROWSPlaying a little shinnyWed Jul 25 1990 11:5310
    Results from the Summer Nationals
    
    Top Fuel   Gary Ormsby (5.04/282) {{elapsed time/m.p.h.}}
    
    Funny Car  Chuck Etchell (5.45/271)
    
    Pro Stock  Daryl Alderman (7.32/187)
    
    HTH,
    Wheel
74.654WMOIS::JBARROWSPlaying a little shinnyWed Jul 25 1990 12:158
    re: .641
    
    BTW, the Jets training camp is not in Winnipeg, it is in some other
    city...chances of catching a game are not too great; but I will have
    an answer definitely by Tuesday. (actually I will know tomorrow, but
    I won't be here!)
    
    Wheel
74.655SNOC02::CASEYS N O V 2 0 :: C A S E Y --&gt; *8-)Wed Jul 25 1990 22:199
    Re .653
    
    We have a Larry Ormsby here who's a top drag racer.
    
    Coincidence that.
    
    Don
    *8-)
    
74.656CuriousSHALOT::MEDVIDmuscle and hateMon Jul 30 1990 16:518
    In what park did Roger Maris hit his record-breaking homer?  I saw a
    black and white clip of it over the weekend, but couldn't make out the
    park.  It looked like Boston except there was no Green Monster.  Was it
    Yankee Stadium?
    
    Thanks.
    
    	--dan'l
74.657Holy Cow !!!SHALOT::HUNTWyld Stallyns RulesMon Jul 30 1990 17:167
    I believe Roger Maris hit No. 61 in Yankee Stadium.   Remember that was
    the "old" Yankee Stadium before its' mid-1970s renovation.  Might be why
    it looks odd today.
    
    It was against Tracy Stallard.   Was he pitching for the Orioles ???
    
    Bob Hunt
74.658cursesMFGMEM::MIOLAPhantomTue Jul 31 1990 10:374
    Unfortunately he was pitching for the Sox when Maris's 61'st just made
    it into the stands.
    
    Lou
74.659Satelite Info for Pats/Steelers GameSHALOT::MEDVIDmuscle and hateWed Aug 01 1990 11:028
    Next Thursday, we want to pick up the Patriots Steelers game from
    Montreal on the satelite.  Any info on where to pick it up would
    certainly be appreciated.  I hear preseason games are sometimes hard
    to pick up because they're not on a national feed.
    
    	--dan'l (who knows squat about satelite dishes and is hoping the
    	         bar owner can tune it in so that he doesn't have
    	         100 POed Steelers fans to deal with.)
74.660WMOIS::JBARROWSSavage AmusementWed Aug 01 1990 11:3616
    dan'l
    
    Do you subscribe to On Sat magazine?  Usually in the back they list
    all the hidden feeds....although sometimes you just have to search
    for the feed. When I get home I will check for you....
    
    TV38 is notorious for always switching their feeds.  Always gotta
    search for those B's games.  Somehow, the Canadian feeds tend to
    be on the same transponder.
    
    Wheel
    
    (And Dickster, you were talking about the guy picking his nose on
    t.v., well on one feed we saw Peter Jennings do the same!!!  The 
    things you miss on regular t.v.!)
    
74.661Try another conferenceSHALOT::HUNTWyld Stallyns RulesWed Aug 01 1990 11:413
    Might want to try asking in PEARL::SATELLITE.
    
    Bob Hunt
74.662WFOV12::MORRISONI've got nuthin' to sayMon Aug 06 1990 11:128
    
       On "Time Out For Trivia" last night, they stated that baseball
    went to a 162 game schedule in 1962. I thought it was 1961, the
    year Maris hit 61 hrs.
    
    schlep me, please.
    Bull~
    
74.663WMOIS::JBARROWSAll the action begins hereMon Aug 06 1990 12:287
    re: .641
    
    Training camp for the Jets starts 9/6 in Saskatatoon.  Some exhibition
    games will be played in Winnipeg, but not until later.
    
    Your friend is about 1 1/2 weeks too early....
    
74.664New teams=more gamesCOGITO::HILLTue Aug 07 1990 18:495
    re .662
    
    I think the AL played 162 games in '61 and thwe NL the following year.
    The reason was that that was the year 2 new teams were added to each
    league.
74.665QUASER::JOHNSTONLegitimateSportingPurpose?E.S.A.D.!Wed Aug 08 1990 15:0313
   A remark regarding Pena reminded me:

   I've been wondering why the Umps don't wear the chest protector
   anymore? They crouch down behind the catcher... then if they catcher
   makes a move to the outside, the ump leans that way also (to stay
   protected). This HAS to give them an inconsistent view of what is and
   is not the strike zone.

   So... anybody know the story? If I was standing back there I'd WANT the
   darned thing, plus I think it contributes to a better called game...
   why aren't they wearing them?

   Mike JN
74.666CAM::WAYGet Matt Sewell his jersey!Wed Aug 08 1990 15:189
Mike,

Most umps were a catchers-type under their shirt or jacket.

Some still use the big one, called a balloon, I think, but a lot
prefer the under the shirt type.....

HTH,
'Saw
74.667ASABET::CORBETTMike Corbett - 223-9889Thu Aug 09 1990 02:1514

RE: umps and chest protectors


	It's been thought that the strike zone has moved down because of the
umps abandoning the old 'shield' type chest protectors.  The Nl has had them
longer then the AL and has been said to have had the lower strike zone of the 
two leagues.  When the AL umps switched to them many felt that the AL zone
became lower, like the NL strike zone.  With the catcher type protectors
the umps get lower using the catcher as protection.  Becuae of the lower
perpective on the pitch more low strikes are called.

mc
74.668New Years in New OrleansSHIRE::FINEUC1Tue Aug 14 1990 11:4110
Can somebody help me?

I'm trying to plan a holiday and would like to know what is happening in the
Superdome in N.O. on 1-Jan-1991.

Can anyone help??????????

thanks in advance,

rick ellis
74.669Sugar bowlCOGITO::HILLTue Aug 14 1990 11:491
    The USF&G Sugar Bowl                           
74.670FSHQA1::JHENDRYJohn Hendry, DTN 292-2170Tue Aug 14 1990 12:1211
    The Saints host the Rams on New Years Eve in the final NFL regular
    season game of the 1990 season.  The USF&G Sugar Bowl on New Years
    Night will pit the champion of the Southeastern Conference against the
    best other college opponent they can find (or so they say).  There
    should be a parade.  There is probably a college basketball tournament
    in conjunction with the Sugar Bowl.  And of course, New Orleans itself
    on New Years Eve will be jumping.
    
    Should be a great time to visit Nawlins.
    
    John
74.671SHIRE::FINEUC1Tue Aug 14 1990 12:2221
  Thanks a bunch, gents.

  I can't wait to tell my sister (I'll be meeting up with her in Toronto and
  taking off from there)!!

  She'll be so excited about the opportunity of going to New Orleans for
  New Years:

  - arrive, check in
  - go to first football game New Years' Eve
  - out on the town after (she'll like that)
  - Hangover transformed into screaming, yelling, bottles of beer, etc.
    all afternoon on New Years Day
  - Another football game New Years' Night (tickets must be impossible
    to find - whaddya think??)
  - leave, check out

  thanks again.  Saves several hundred phone calls around Europe explaining
  that this is football that you throw not kick, etc..

rick ellis
74.672empty seats - why? (moved by moderator)AUSTIN::MACNEALBo don't know rugby!Tue Aug 14 1990 13:0045
STRATA::FELDMAN "go pats in 90"                      11 lines  14-AUG-1990 06:02
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------



	While watching major league baseball on TV I've notice
at several games that the center field bleachers are always empty
and in some cases covered by a dark canvas. I find myself asking
the question "why don't they let people sit in those seats?" well
I think I've come to the reason why, and that is I think they leave
them blank so that when the batter is facing the pitcher  he gets a
clear view of the ball as it is pitched to him. I'm not sure if
I'm right but if anyone out there knows the real reason please reply
================================================================================
SHALOT::MEDVID "stars come down in you"               8 lines  14-AUG-1990 06:09
                -< Clear view of pitcher, pitch, and the ball >-
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    You are right, though I don't remember when this went into effect. 
    Early 80's maybe?
    
    I get a kick out of the No Pepper Games on all the backstops now.  It
    used to be just the natural grass fields but now it's on just about all
    the stadium's backstops.  Any ideas there?
    
    	--dan'l
================================================================================
FSHQA1::JHENDRY "John Hendry, DTN 292-2170"           5 lines  14-AUG-1990 07:03
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    I don't know why the No Pepper Games sign would be on an artificial
    field, but on a grass field, it's to prevent the grass from wearing out
    behind the plate.
    
    John
================================================================================
COGITO::HILL                                          7 lines  14-AUG-1990 07:40
                         -< Can we sell those seats? >-
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    The backdrop is there to make the ball more visible to the batter. In
    old parks, with stands in CF and people wearing white shirts, it can
    become downright dangerous to a hitter. In Fenway, they used to keep
    the cf bleachers clear, but in recent years Sox management decided that
    they would rather rake in the cash.
    
    Tom
    
74.673new term?33945::HAASsame as talking to youThu Aug 16 1990 14:429
>Note 4.267               Official American League topic               267 of 267
>MUSKIE::SHAUGHNESSY "Now appearing: Banal Entry"     15 lines  16-AUG-1990 08:14
...
>    ... my bubble-like
>    derriere.

Can someone expand on this?

TTom
74.674...or The Superdome ....FRSBEE::BROOKSIs my character enough 2 be ...Thu Aug 16 1990 17:234
    re .673
    
    It ain't no bubble TTom, unless were talking about that big jelly
    bubble on "The Prisoner" .....
74.675ain't seen it33945::HAASsame as talking to youThu Aug 16 1990 17:533
His words, not mine.

TTom
74.676Swimming question...AYOV10::DHUNTERThu Sep 13 1990 08:077
    For a competition here in Scotland, the following question has me
    beat. I'm sure you experts over the pond can help...
    
    "Which Olympics (place and year) did Mark Spitz win 7 Gold Medals"?
    
    Thanks... Don H.
    
74.677Munich - 1972FSHQA2::JHENDRYJohn Hendry, DTN 292-2170Thu Sep 13 1990 10:281
    
74.678COBRA::DINSMORERodney Hampton...ROYThu Sep 13 1990 11:0012
    john h  or whoever might have the answer
    
    
    
    Can some one  give me  Marinos stats  against Bills  last 3 yrs?
    
    
    thanks for any help
    
    
    dinz
    
74.679FSHQA2::JHENDRYJohn Hendry, DTN 292-2170Thu Sep 13 1990 12:296
    Nope.  I would have to have either a Bills media guide or Miami media
    guide for the last 3 years, and I have neither.
    
    Sorry,
    
    John
74.681SASE::SZABOThu Sep 13 1990 13:116
    Mark this day!  I've never seen John Hendry, the SPORTS answer man,
    stopped in his tracks!  :-)
    
    dinz send dock mail
    
    Hawk
74.682CAM::WAYBatman plays rugby...Robin plays softballThu Sep 13 1990 13:578
There was no joy in SPORTSville, the might Hendry had struck out....


Dock, send Hawk mail to tell Dinz to send Dan mail to tell Walt to
send Lufay mail to send Dock mail, to send /Don mail about the hat....

HTH,
'Saw
74.683MCIS1::DHAMELIraq nuked;film after Sox hilitesThu Sep 13 1990 15:033
    
    Take this discussion to mail, fer cripes sake!
    
74.684FSOA::JHENDRYJohn Hendry, DTN 292-2170Thu Sep 13 1990 15:0510
    My research is only as good as my research material.  Unfortunately, I
    don't get media guides for each team each year.  I do get the NFL
    record manual and it has a career listing of Marino's best game.  It
    also has synopses of the previous year's games.  Now, if those manuals,
    which I have for the past few years, has the information I need, I can
    post it.  If not, I'm out of luck.
    
    Sorry guys but that's the way it is.
    
    John
74.685FSOA::JHENDRYJohn Hendry, DTN 292-2170Fri Sep 14 1990 10:3116
    The manuals I have don't have the exact information you need, Dinz, but
    they do have career stats for Marino, Montana, Simms, Elway and Esaison
    against all teams.  I am therefore posting these stats for Marino
    against the rest of the AFC East so you'll have some sort of context
    for comparison.  Fair enough?
    
    Team	Games Att Comp	Pct  Yds  Ave/Att  TD Int Sacks/Yds Lost
    
    Buffalo	13    444 287   64.6 3433 7.73 yds 25 21  14/129
    Colts	14    457 273   59.7 3541 7.75 yds 26  6  10/75
    New England 13    445 247   55.7 2949 6.63 yds 19 22   7/64
    Jets	12    473 284   60.0 4026 8.51 yds 37 17  14/87
    
    Career pct is 59.6 and career average gain per attempt is 7.63 yds.
    
    John
74.686COBRA::DINSMORERodney Hampton...ROYFri Sep 14 1990 10:366
    thanks john, i definitely  start  Marino against the jets and dolts
    :)
    
    
    dinz
    
74.687STAR::YANKOWSKASLittle roller up along first...Thu Sep 20 1990 10:346
    Could somebody please post directions to the Basketball Hall of Fame?
    I'd be coming from Methuen, MA.
    
    
    Thanks,
    py
74.688Basketball HOF directionsSA1794::GUSICJReferees whistle while they work..Thu Sep 20 1990 14:2010
    
    
    	Take the Mass Pike to the Springfield I 291 exit.  Get on I291
    west and follow until it merges with I91.  Take I91 South and get
    off at either exit 5 or 7.  Either exit will get you there because
    the HOF is right next to I91 (It can be seen from the highway).
    After taking one of those exits, just follow the signs.
    
    							bill..g.
    
74.689If you get hungry after the Hall....CAM::WAYLookin' for drool next week...Thu Sep 20 1990 15:497
And just up the street from the HoF is a little bar/grill called the
Tavern.  Excellent food, decent beer, and a_okay atmosphere....

The Chainsaw give it 3 Gold Mugs.....


'Saw
74.690thanks!GALAXY::YANKOWSKASLittle roller up along first...Thu Sep 20 1990 16:051
    
74.691JUPITR::PARTEECharlie -- Lemieux est le mieuxTue Sep 25 1990 19:4112
    
    technoweenie notes question:
    (I can't find it in HELP.)
    
    If I just want to read the new replies to one note (say, the NHL
    note), how can I get immediately to the unseen replies without
    stepping through the conference doing next unseen until I get to
    9.* or looking back and forth through the NHL note until I find
    the first note I haven't read?
    
    Thanks,
    Charlie
74.692UPWARD::HEISERwho is not afraid, who walks tall, who are weTue Sep 25 1990 19:445
    Re: -1
    
    for unseen notes on an open:
    
    Notes> SET PROFILE/AUTOMATIC=UNSEEN
74.693JUPITR::PARTEECharlie -- Lemieux est le mieuxTue Sep 25 1990 19:4912
    
    
    Yep, got that!  But I don't want a random unseen note, I just
    want the NHL unseen notes...  I'll read all the other ones when
    I have more time...
    
    How do I do *that*?
    
    (but thanks for the help...)
    
    C
    
74.694UPWARD::HEISERwho is not afraid, who walks tall, who are weTue Sep 25 1990 20:027
    Sorry Charlie.  I don't think that is possible in one command.  You
    might find one of the batch Notes extraction tools handy though (i.e.,
    ENOTES, AVN, MAILNOTES)
    
    I use ENOTES myself.  Hit keypad 7 to add its conference.
    
    Mike
74.695hit kp7 to add PAN to your notebookDECWET::METZGERHead Northwest young man....Tue Sep 25 1990 20:5916
try a dir/unseen 9.* 

that should give you a listing of all the unseen notes in a certain topic.

then you can read them at your leisure....

Metz

BTW- A better batch notes extractor is PAN. It'll set up little shadow
conferences in your personal directory so you can read them quickly. It also
has batch writer/reply ability..Enotes hasn't been modified in quite some
time...

I'm wishing for a set note/permanent_seen in the next version of notes
so that you can skip over all topics you don't care to read..
74.696UPWARD::HEISERwho is not afraid, who walks tall, who are weWed Sep 26 1990 13:335
>I'm wishing for a set note/permanent_seen in the next version of notes
>so that you can skip over all topics you don't care to read..
    
    That would be PERFECT for the notes on the ACC, Notre Dame, Broncos,
    Cleveland, Lakers, Court Trials, Oilers, etc.
74.697:-)12354::J_HALPINAcres of Kites!!!!Wed Sep 26 1990 14:285


	I think a SET AUTHOR/NAME="Joe Fubar"/PERMANENTLY_SEEN would be more
useful....
74.698UPWARD::HEISERwho is not afraid, who walks tall, who are weWed Sep 26 1990 14:321
    Yeah I'll take one of those too! ;-)
74.699BOSOX::TIMMONSI'm a Pepere!Wed Sep 26 1990 14:333
    Ha ha ha, boy do I have a candidate for that "Joe Fubar"!!  :*)
    
    Lee
74.700CSC32::J_HERNANDEZJump back!!! What's that sound?Wed Sep 26 1990 17:316
 >>	I think a SET AUTHOR/NAME="Joe Fubar"/PERMANENTLY_SEEN would be more
>>      useful....
    
    
    That would be great, we wouldn't ever have to read Mike Heiser's KJ
    is God and Chambers is Vice-god Crap. 
74.701SASE::SZABOWed Sep 26 1990 18:113
    ....or any Lakers bull.....
    
    :-)
74.702ACTING::MACGREGORDECview3D engineer - DTN 287-3318Wed Sep 26 1990 19:024
    Say what??  I'm on STARV3::MACGREGOR, not ACTING::MACGREGOR.  In
    fact I've never heard of ACTING.
    
    The Wizard
74.703UPWARD::HEISERmidnight moon weaving her chainWed Sep 26 1990 19:573
    Re: Jesse
    
    Rams still suck!
74.704SASE::SZABOThu Sep 27 1990 10:353
    How far away is the `shooting line' from a dart board?  Thanks.
    
    Hawk
74.705CNTROL::CHILDSLord she had a way to fool meThu Sep 27 1990 10:584
 8 ft Hawk, and the center of the board should be at the height of 5'3".

 mike
74.706SASE::SZABOThu Sep 27 1990 11:129
    Thanks Mikey!  I never even thought to ask about the height of the
    board.......
    
    I'm trying to convince my bar manager to install a dart board and have
    a particular night (a night that I'm working!) each week for some sort
    of dart matches or tournaments.  Haverhill, believe it or not, draws
    college kids in, especially on thursday nights.......
    
    Woody
74.707Anybody in England care to help??PFSVAX::JACOBI'm lost, But I'm making record timeThu Sep 27 1990 18:435
    When I was stationed in England, I could swear I heard that the center
    of the board was supposed to be 5'8" from the floor.
    
    JaKe
    
74.708SHIRE::FINEUC1Fri Sep 28 1990 07:5915
74.709CNTROL::CHILDSLord she had a way to fool meFri Sep 28 1990 10:256
 Well I'm 5'9" and the center is right at my nose so I pretty sure it's
 5'3". If I remember I'll check my rule book at home provided I still have.

 mike

74.710from the darkest recesses of my memoryCSTEAM::FARLEYHave YOU seen Elvis today??Fri Sep 28 1990 12:498
    The center of the bull should be 5'6" from the floor and the
    toe line is 7'9 3/4" from the front of the board.
    
    Mikey, I allus knew you had a big haid but 6" from your nose to
    da top o' your haid is just too much!! (many smiles)
    
    Kev
    
74.711AXIS::ROBICHAUDDockers... Pants for |CENSORED|sFri Sep 28 1990 13:034
    	Mike's head is so big because of the pounding it took from Patriot
    fans over the years.
    
    				/8^)
74.712The correct answer isJURAN::MCKAYFri Sep 28 1990 14:105
    I disagree with the prior dimensions.  The center of the bull should
    be 5'8" off the ground.  the distance for the line is 7' 9.25" from
    the front of the board.  
    
    Jimbo
74.713:-) And he's higher than 5'3"... 12354::J_HALPINAcres of Kites!!!!Fri Sep 28 1990 15:564

	I thought  Cartwright was the Center of the Bulls????

74.714LOTS o' Bull in here :-)AKOV06::DCARROffice Politics as usual... :-(Fri Sep 28 1990 16:3110
    I thought SPORTS was the 'Center of the Bulls'....
    And Frank's shrooms make it pretty high in here...
    
    Now for my incredibly miscellaneous question...  Anybody remember how
    much Jerry Lewis got for his kids this Labor Day?
    
    (The SPORTS tie in is that I was between the 9th and 10th holes when I
    saw that he had 40-something million...)
    
    ML
74.715try these dimensions for dartsFMCSSE::BROWNWhiskey River's don't run DryFri Sep 28 1990 16:489
    
    Having thrown for some 20 odd years now these are the dimensions I
    remember. 
    
    Center of Bull S/B 5ft 8 in from floor. The Toe Line is 8ft from face
    of board to the line. If taken on the angle it S/B 9ft 7 5/8 in
    from bull to toe line.  
    
    Cadzilla
74.716Boston! City of Cities!PNO::HEISERultimate, underlyin', no denyin' motivationFri Sep 28 1990 20:0660
	The following is a letter by Wess Rodgers, from Albuequerque,
	to the City of Boston, when he paid a parking ticket he
	received while visiting the Peoples Republic of Massachusetts.



							Wess Rodgers
							(address removed)
							Sept. 12, 1990


The City of Boston
P.O. Box 2288
Boston, Ma., 02107-2288

    I recently spent four days in Boston on a business trip.  In 
that time, I observed the following behaviors on your streets:

1.  Five-ton trucks running at 55 mph on residential streets.
2.  Dozens of drivers, including police, totally ignoring red 
    lights, even making left turns against oncoming traffic 
    against red lights.
3.  Almost universal disregard for stop signs.
4.  Almost universal disregard for speed limits.
5.  Almost universal disregard for center lines.
6.  A vehicle driving at double the speed limit on the wrong side 
    of the street, with a police car passing it at the time.  
    (The policeman was in the curb lane on the wrong side of the 
    street.  I had to hit the curb and lock my brakes to avoid a 
    head-on collision.  The policeman was displaying no emergency 
    signals and completely ignored the driver of the other car.)
7.  Vehicles making U-turns on the expressway (I-93) and 
    proceeding to drive on the wrong side of the road.
8.  Absolute, total disregard for any known norms of yielding 
    right of way or sharing the road with other drivers.
9.  City vehicles double or triple parking on downtown streets in 
    heavy traffic, the drivers making obscene finger gestures to 
    complaining motorists.
10. Police ignoring the most flagrant violations of traffic laws 
    and signals I have ever seen.
11. Drivers following each other at less than four feet at speeds 
    in excess of 70 mph on city streets.

    Then, on my last day in Boston I asked a policeman if I could 
legally park at the curb in the Quincy Market area.  He said, 
"Shuah.  Pahk anywheah yah like."  When I returned to my car an 
hour later I found a citation for parking in a loading zone.
    Can you imagine the irony of this?  You people drive like 
bloody cannibals.  You have no more respect for Human life or 
well-being than sewer rats who eat their own young.  Then, if 
a visitor has managed to survive your traffic and your brutality, 
you lie to them and fine them for believing you.
    Boston is, without a doubt, the most horrid, vicious, utterly 
despicable city on the face of this earth.  Here is my fine.  I 
wish you might choke on it.


Contemptuously,
Wess Rodgers

74.717He should have went New Yourk instead. :-)CSC32::GL_JOHNSONElvis Is Dead!Fri Sep 28 1990 20:177
    
    	That's good 'ol Bosston hospitality for ya.  :-)
    
    						 glen j._a_native_New_Yourker
                                                      
    					
    
74.718WMOIS::JBARROWSIt happens time and time againFri Sep 28 1990 20:341
    There's always *one* bad apple in a crowd. ;^)
74.719PFSVAX::JACOBBucs Magic # is now 4Sat Sep 29 1990 01:387
    A true Bostonian would probably read that letter and ask what the guy
    was so pissed off about, cause the Bostonian wouldn't see anything
    wrong with the driving habits described, in fact, Sears driving school
    probably teaches these habits!!!
    
    JaKe
    
74.720Takes me back!CAM::WAYHappiness is a loose ruckMon Oct 01 1990 09:1214
Years ago, my dad drove 18-wheelers.  Before I went to kindergarten
I used to ride with him, so I had an early introduction to the streets
of Boston and their driving habits.  Ingrained forever in my memory
is the car trying to pass us on the right by driving up on the
sidewalk.  I think I learned some good swearwords from my dad that day
too ;^)

I guess I'm used to it.  What's more frustrating to me is that fact
that if you can see where you want to go while in Boston, you'll never
get there due to all the damn one-way streets.

Boston -- I love that town!

'Saw
74.721MCIS1::DHAMELOne game lead, 3 (4?) games leftMon Oct 01 1990 09:528
    
    The description of Boston driving is all too true.
    
    The best way around is by bike or footmobile, otherwise "Yah cahn't get
    thay-ah from hee-yah."
    
    Dickster
    
74.722Megan's RunQUOKKA::SNYDERWherever you go, there you areMon Oct 01 1990 13:1816
    The TAC 24-hour National Championship run was held over the weekend in
    Portland, Oregon.  A local (Colorado Springs) runner, Scott Demaree,
    was competing.  He finished second in last year's championship,
    covering 139 miles.  The Colorado Springs Gazette Telegraph had nothing
    in the morning paper and the Sports Desk knew nothing of it.
    
    Did any of you happen to notice a blurb in any of your Sports sections
    this morning?  The run is called Megan's Run and is on a 400 meter
    track.  To the best of my knowledge, last year's winner, Ann Trason
    (143 miles) was not competing this year (at least, that what she told
    me at Leadville).
    
    I'd sure like to find out who won and how Scott did.  Thanks in
    advance.
    
    Sid
74.723Driving situation bad-- parking one criminal...DELNI::G_WAUGAMANMon Oct 01 1990 13:4423
    
    The amazing thing is that Wes was good enough to send in that fine.
    I wouldn't have...
    
    Just this past Saturday I was in the Quincy Market area killing some
    time before the Red Sox game and almost parked along a street that had 
    painted curb spaces, no meters, and no visible signs from me to the
    next intersection.  Then I noticed that everyone behind me had parking
    tickets and thought better of it.  I can only guess that those spaces
    are reserved only for Sunday, but nearly every damn one of them was
    taken and their occupants ticketed. 
    
    The City of Boston doesn't understand the impression they leave on
    tourists and they don't much care if they can collect a little revenue.
    They discourage parking in the city not by offering a modern, efficient
    subway system and/or by clearly marking and fairly enforcing no parking 
    areas, but rather by trickery and deceit.  They'd prefer to teach you a
    lesson first.  The short-sightedness of this approach is quite
    obvious.
    
    glenn (who's figured out the system in the Fenway area and has thus far 
    	   avoided any violations over the years-- until they change it)
           
74.724CAM::WAYHappiness is a loose ruckMon Oct 01 1990 15:1412
One of the oldest tricks in the book:

	While this doesn't always work (like for illegal parking)
	it does work for expired meters.  I just send a letter
	in with the ticket saying that I'm refusing to pay because
	the meter was broken and ate my first quarter.

	Most of the time this works....


Chainsaw_who's_usually_very_honest....

74.725Broken indeed...WMOIS::RIEU_DRead his lips...Know new taxes!Mon Oct 01 1990 15:183
       Won't work in Boston 'saw, they'll send you an extra ticket in a
    letter bomb if you try a stunt like that.
                                     Denny
74.726You musta broke it, by putting in a quarter..YUPPY::STRAGEDCLEAVAGE is a man's breast friendTue Oct 02 1990 08:583
    and then send you the bill for repairing it!!!
    
    P(don't_mention_Liverpool)J
74.727CNTROL::CHILDSLord she had a way to fool meTue Oct 02 1990 09:088
 Football question, in sunday's Giants/Cowboys' game Troy Aikman was throwing
 a pass away down near the goalline that hit the crossbar and ricochet back
 onto the field. Is this ball still live? I don't think so but the crossbar is
 legally on the field so what if a defender caught it? Shouldn't he be awarded
 the ball?

 mike
74.728CAM::WAYHappiness is a loose ruckTue Oct 02 1990 09:235
PJ...Okay, I won't 8^)

Mike, I think it's a dead ball, but couldn't tell you why.....

'Saw
74.729FSOA::JHENDRYJohn Hendry, DTN 292-2170Tue Oct 02 1990 10:255
    I think it's a dead ball too but I've never seen the situation before
    in either a game I've been at or a game on TV.  I'm going to look it up
    in my rule book tonight to see if it's covered.
    
    John
74.731WAGCURIE::WENTZELLTakes time to pick a place to goTue Oct 02 1990 11:153
The crossbar is above live territory, i.e. the end zone, and not out of bounds, 
right??  Not the base where it goes into the ground but the horizontal part.  
Then my *guess* would be that it is live...
74.732GOLF::KINGRPREPARE to die earth scum!!!!!!!!!!!Tue Oct 02 1990 11:204
    The base of the cross-bar is out of the end-zone... My guess it would
    be out-of-bounds...
    
    REK
74.733BSS::JCOTANCHTheGreatAmericanDream: ND goes 0-11Tue Oct 02 1990 11:376
    I remember Kilmer of Jurgensen hitting the crossbar in SB VI against
    Miami.  However, the ball fell incomplete, so this doesn't help us any.
    At the time, the goalposts were still at the front of the endzone.  I
    would say a ball that hits the goal post is a dead ball.
    
    Joe 
74.734So when will the Pirates be playing the BoSox this year?SHALOT::MEDVIDTue Oct 02 1990 11:437
    If the NL and AL Championship series end early, does the World Series
    start on an earlier date?  (ie. are there dates set for the World
    Series or does it depend on the league series' finishing dates?)
    
    Thanks.
    
    	--dan'l
74.735GOLF::KINGRPREPARE to die earth scum!!!!!!!!!!!Tue Oct 02 1990 11:464
    Does anyone have the box-score from last night Seattle- Cinn
    football game?
    
    REK
74.736CNTROL::CHILDSLord she had a way to fool meTue Oct 02 1990 11:507
 I seriously doubt in this day and age of TV, that WS will start any sooner
 than it's schedule to. Not only would the TV exec's be in an uproar alot
 of fans who have to travel there would be too. Flight plans, hotel acom-
 madations, vacation time from work etc....

 mike
74.737FREE::GOGUENBoSox magic number is 1Tue Oct 02 1990 11:5830
SEATTLE  OCT1 

CINCINNATI (16) AT SEATTLE (31) - STATISTICS

                              CIN            SEA
                         --------       --------
FIRST DOWNS                    16             20
RUSHES-YARDS                21-69         31-151
PASSING YARDS                 161            201
PASSES                    16-31-1        17-24-1
SACKS BY-YARDS               2-16           3-24
PUNTS                      4-47.5         2-44.5
FUMBLES-LOST                  4-1            2-1
PENALTIES-YARDS              8-55           6-60
TIME OF POSSESSION          25:11          34:49


INDIVIDUAL LEADERS

   RUSHING:  CINCINNATI - HAROLD GREEN 6-39, JAMES BROOKS 9-22, CRAIG 
TAYLOR 1-5, BOOMER ESIASON 4-3, STANFORD JENNINGS 1-0; SEATTLE - JOHN 
L WILLIAMS 12-73, DERRICK FENNER 16-60, DAVE KRIEG 3-18.
   PASSING:  CINCINNATI - BOOMER ESIASON 10-23-1-128, ERIK WILHELM 
6-8-0-57; SEATTLE - DAVE KRIEG 17-24-1-217.
   RECEIVING:  CINCINNATI - KENDAL SMITH 3-16, EDDIE BROWN 2-38, TIM 
MCGEE 2-33, RODNEY HOLMAN 2-28, STANFORD JENNINGS 2-22, JIM RIGGS 
2-22, JAMES BROOKS 2-19, ERIC KATTUS 1-7; SEATTLE - JOHN L WILLIAMS 
5-25, TOMMY KANE 3-78, JEFF CHADWICK 3-70, ROBERT BLACKMON 3-26, 
TRAVIS MCNEAL 1-11, RON HELLER 1-5, DERRICK FENNER 1-2.
   FIELD GOALS MISSED:  CINCINNATI - NONE; SEATTLE - NONE.
74.738LAGUNA::MAY_BRTue Oct 02 1990 12:096
    I remember a Giants game in the '70's when I believe Norm Snead through
    one at the crossbar and it fell into Bob Tucker's hands.  It was ruled
    incomplete.  I believe the cross bar is on the same plane as the end
    line, and therefore out of bounds.
    
    Bruce
74.739EARRTH::BROOKSTwo snaps, a twist, and a kiss!Tue Oct 02 1990 12:1317
    Nope ... the ball would be dead. 
    
    A related story :
    
    Back in the 40's, if a pass thrown from your own endzone hit your own
    crossbar (remember, the post were on the goal line then), it was not an
    incompletion, but a safety.
    
    Well, in the 1945 title game, Sammy Baugh threw a pass from his
    endzone, but the wind caught it, and the ball smacked into the post.
    
    Safety for the Rams (many of whom didn't even understand why they got
    the 2 points.), and a 2-0 lead.
    
    Final score : Rams 15, Skins 14.
    
    The league changed the rule that offseason.
74.740RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOR Joe Morgan &amp; Jerry Burns brothers??Tue Oct 02 1990 12:317
    Sid,
    
    Ron Clark set an American record at Megan's run, he ran 165+Mmiles.
    THe Portland Marathon was on Sunday, and the women you talked about
    won the Women's portion of the race.
    
    JD
74.741some statsQUOKKA::SNYDERWherever you go, there you areTue Oct 02 1990 12:5432
    Thanks, JD.  I hope to talk to Scott sometime soon to find out how he
    did.  I didn't want to call him too soon if he was bummed about how he
    did.  He claimed he wasn't really prepared (he's one of these guys who
    believes he's undertrained if he's not getting in his 160 miles/week)
    last week, but he always says that.
    
    BTW, Ron Clark's American record beats the old American record of 162+,
    owned by Park Barner.  The World record is owned by Yiannis Kouros, the
    Greek God of ultrarunning, who owns every record for a run longer than
    100 miles.  The list is impressive:
    
    1000 miles:      10 days + 10:30:35
    6 day race:      639 miles
    48 hour:         281+ miles
    24 hour:         178 miles
    200K:            15:11:10
    12 hour:         101 miles
    
    I'm glad to see Ann won the marathon.  She told me at Leadville that
    she's going to take a short break from ultrarunning to take a shot at
    the Olympic marathon.  She expects to qualify at Las Vegas in February. 
    You wouldn't happen to have her time, would you?  Her list of
    ultrarunning accomplishments is fairly impressive as well:
    
    24 hour:         143+         (World 5th, American record)
    200K:            19:22:05     (World record)
    12 hour:         88 miles     (World record)
    100 miles:       13:55:02     (World record)
    100K:             7:30:49     (World 2nd, American record)
    50 miles:         5:54:17     (World record)
    
    Sid
74.742RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOR Joe Morgan &amp; Jerry Burns brothers??Tue Oct 02 1990 13:319
    Sid,
    
    Her tiem was around 2:43 or so - she qualified for the Olympic Trials.
    
    Men's winner was from Japan - a guy running his first marathon -
    he
    ran 2:17 and change.
    
    JD
74.743QUASER::JOHNSTONLegitimateSportingPurpose?E.S.A.D.!Tue Oct 02 1990 15:4817
   regarding tickets at sporting events:

   When you find a bunch of cars that have already been ticketed, you are
   supposed to park there, remove a ticket from a previously ticketed
   vehicle, and place it on your own. I know the police do not mind if you
   do this, because I've tried it several times and they never came to my
   house and yelled at me or anything. When you return to your vehicle,
   replace the ticket under the wipers of the vehicle from which you
   removed it, if it's still there. If there is now ANOTHER ticket on that
   car, put your ticket under the other windshield wiper.

   Another way is to just to take the envelope the ticket is in (if your
   cops use enveopes) and leave the ticket where it belongs (less likely
   to arouse samurai metermaids). Then put the envelope under your
   windshield. Then everyone's covered.

   Mike JN
74.744CAM::WAYHappiness is a loose ruckTue Oct 02 1990 16:3310
re .743

	I had a friend who used to do that at college.  The only
	problem was that he'd use an old ticket.

	One day he came back to find another ticket on his windshield
	and a note "I'll see yours and raise you another one" from
	the meter maid.....

'Saw
74.745QUOKKA::SNYDERWherever you go, there you areTue Oct 02 1990 16:576
    JD,
    
    Thanks for the info.  How about you?  Did you run?  (2:17 for a first
    marathon?  That's disgusting.)
    
    Sid
74.746QUOKKA::SNYDERWherever you go, there you areTue Oct 02 1990 17:086
    By the way, JD, are you sure it was Ron Clark and not Rae Clark who won
    Megan's Run?  Prior to that run, Rae had the fourth best American
    finish in a 24 hour run with 152+ miles.  I'd never heard of Ron Clark
    before, and the ultrarunning community is rather small.
    
    Sid
74.747RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOR Joe Morgan &amp; Jerry Burns brothers??Tue Oct 02 1990 17:4616
    Sid,
    
    Perhaps it was Rae, they had the 24 hour run at the school that
    hosted the pre-race pasta feast.  We went out to watch a little
    of the running.  Clark was at 80+ hours when I saw him.  
    
    Yes, I did run - I ran 2:52:54, which is a little slower than I
    was shooting for.  I got leg cramps (hamstrings) at 22 and had to
    slow way down the last 4 or so.  I had figured I was in about 2:45
    shape.   A quick trip to the medical tent afterwards for a massage
    on the hamstrings helped a lot.  
    
    I think I got Rae and Ron mixed up cause Ron is the name of a famous
    miler from australia or New Zealand....
    
    JD
74.748FSOA::JHENDRYJohn Hendry, DTN 292-2170Tue Oct 02 1990 21:304
    When a passed ball hits either the crossbar or an upright, it's
    immediately dead.  Incomplete pass.
    
    John
74.749MCIS1::DHAMELBelieve!!!Thu Oct 04 1990 11:2012
    
    We all know what "winning the pennant" is, but is there really an
    actual, physical, O-fishal pennant that is awarded by the League to the
    winning team?  Was there ever such a thing, and that's where the phrase
    comes from?
    
    And what about those banners and stuff hanging from the roof of the
    Boston Garden?  Are those awarded by the League, or are they just
    something the Celtics and Bruins put up themselves?
    
    Curious Dickster
    
74.750Can you get Mets/Braves/Cubs/Yanks in Londonderry?STAR::YANKOWSKASOrioles in 1991Thu Oct 04 1990 11:2314
    Any SPORTS noters live in Londonderry. NH?
    
    Reason I ask is that my wife and I have just made an offer on a house
    there; I was just curious as to which cable channels they get.  Can
    anyone tell me if Londonderry gets any of the following:
    
    	WWOR
    	WTBS
    	WGN
    	WPIX
    
    
    Thanks,
    py
74.751Herron cable is pretty good IMHOSALEM::DODANo scalping at Sinead O'Connor concertsThu Oct 04 1990 11:345
Paul,

Braves and Mets.

daryll
74.752Cop that gonfalonDDIF::SPAULDINGThu Oct 04 1990 11:3512
	Dickster,

	I'm pretty sure there is an actual flag (not an actual pennant, which 
	I believe is triangular by definition).  There certainly is an 
	"American League Champions" flag flying beneath the American flag 
	at Fenway in those happy seasons (check that; in those seasons following 
	those happy seasons; "seasons after" have been disastrous for the Sox 
	since '68).  Whether it's the league or the team that is the source 
	I'm not sure, but I would think it's the league.

	--Steve
74.753Just who is going to play for the Nuggets?WORDY::NAZZAROGet more butt into it!Wed Oct 10 1990 14:297
    Can one of you nice folks in CXO kindly list who the heck the
    Denver Nuggets have on their roster this season?  I'm having
    trouble listing 12 warm bodies with Hanzlik out for the year.
    
    Thanks a lot.
    
    NAZZ
74.754STARVU::MACGREGORDECview3D engineer - DTN 287-3318Wed Oct 10 1990 14:396
    Adams, Caroll, Davis, Dunn, Kempton, Lane, Lichti, Mills, Rasmussen,
    Woolridge, Jackson, and Liberty.
    
    Not to mention anyone in camp who isn't listed here.
    
    The Wizard
74.755STRATA::CAPPELHey Baseball, GET A REAL JOBWed Oct 10 1990 15:391
    Kempton is in Italy
74.756Was Rathman with the Pats?34223::MEDVIDGroove is in the HeartMon Oct 22 1990 10:177
    Who were the Patriots' running backs during their Super Bowl year? 
    Specifically, was one of them Tom Rathman who now plays for the 49er's
    or am I getting him confused with someone else?
    
    Thanks.
    
    	--dan'l
74.75739062::JHENDRYJohn Hendry, DTN 292-2170Mon Oct 22 1990 10:255
    Rathman has never been a Patriot.  He was drafted out of Nebraska by
    the Niners.  Craig James, Tony Collins and Mosi Tatupu were the top 3
    running backs that year.
    
    John
74.758FYI - Halloween WarningPNO::HEISERIbanez: the axe built to blast!Wed Oct 24 1990 18:0954
<tons of forwarding headers removed>

			DRUG LACED TATOOS

 
              WARNING TO FELLOW OFFICERS AND PARENTS

A form of TATOO called the "BLUE STAR" is being sold to school children.

DESCRIPTION:

           1.  It is a small sheet of paper containing "BLUE STARS"

     	   2.  They are the size of pencil erasers

           3.  Each star is soaked with LSD

THE DRUG CAN BE ABSORBED THROUGH THE SKIN SIMPLY BY HANDLING THE PAPER!!

There are also brightly colored paper tabs resembling postage stamps, that      
have the pictures of the following:

SUPERMAN            CLOWNS              BUTTERFLIES MICKEY MOUSE        
BART SIMPSON        			& OTHER DISNEY CHARACTERS

EACH ONE IS BOX WRAPPED IN FOIL

This is a new way of selling acid by appealing to young children.

A young child could happen upon these and have a FATAL TRIP. It is also 
believed that little children could be given a free "TATOO" by other children 
who want to have some fun by cultivating new customers without the child's 
knowledge.

A "STAMP" called  "RED PYRAMID" is also being distributed along with microdots 
in various colors.

Another kind of "WINDOW PANE" which has a grid that can be cut out is another 
kind that is being distributed.

                      THESE ARE LACED WITH DRUGS

Please advise your neighbors, friends, relatives , daycare, and children about 
these drugs.  If your child gets any of the above DO NOT HANDLE THEM. These are 
known to react quickly and some laced with STRYCHNINE.

         SYMPTOMS:
    
        1. Hallucinations                 3. Mood changes 
	2. Severe vomiting                4. change in body temperture 
	5. Uncontrolled laughter

PLEASE FEEL FREE TO REPRODUCE THIS ARTICLE AND DISTRIBUTE IT WITHIN YOUR 
COMMUNITY AND WORKPLACE. GET THE WORD OUT ABOUT THIS DANGER TO OUR CHILDREN!
74.759WMOIS::JBARROWSI didn't think it was importantWed Oct 24 1990 18:221
    As another FYI, the previous note was rescinded.....
74.760SASE::SZABOWed Oct 24 1990 18:289
    While this may not be a false alarm (this time), this type of thing is
    what's known as an "urban legend".  There's a book about these urban
    legends called "The Choking Doberman" which descibes how these things
    start and are perpetuated.
    
    Again, no way am I saying that this is not true.  Personally, I have my
    doubts.
    
    Hawk
74.761Ummm, Bart acidHOTSHT::SCHNEIDERVoted for whatsisname...Wed Oct 24 1990 18:287
    As another FYI, the panic of Mike's note is a yearly event, and is
    almost always totally false.  And I got a chain mail in the US Mail
    the other day.
    
    If LSD is so readily available, how come I can't find any???
    
    Dan
74.762What I received today....WMOIS::JBARROWSI didn't think it was importantWed Oct 24 1990 18:3120
Subj:	Halloween warning a hoax.  Sorry!!
Subj:	Halloween Warning Sent Earlier


Hello Everyone,

It has been brought to my attention that the Halloween warning I
sent out earlier today was also broadcasted 2 years ago and turned
out to be a hoax.  I have been unable to reach the originator of
that message and therefore cannot at this time attest to its 
validity.

I suggest that you do not forward that message to anyone until
I track down the originator.  

Sorry for the confusion.  I will keep you posted.

Regards,
Angela

74.763PNO::HEISERIbanez: the axe built to blast!Wed Oct 24 1990 18:328
>    If LSD is so readily available, how come I can't find any???
    
    Get a scholarship to Notre Dame! ;-)
    
    Sorry about the misinformation.  I've never seen it before and it was
    well traveled before I received it.
    
    Mike
74.764That's why these things keep spreading....PEACHS::MITCHAMAndy in Alpharetta (near Atlanta)Thu Oct 25 1990 07:1812
> It has been brought to my attention that the Halloween warning I
> sent out earlier today was also broadcasted 2 years ago and turned
> out to be a hoax.  I have been unable to reach the originator of
> that message and therefore cannot at this time attest to its 
> validity.
>
> I suggest that you do not forward that message to anyone until
> I track down the originator.  

So, why don't you set the note HIDDEN?  Or, better yet, delete the thing!

-Andy
74.765CAM::WAYBeaten like a redheaded stepchild...Thu Oct 25 1990 09:046
The real thing you should be worried about is all the
SPORTshrooms I'm gonna give out to the brats in my neighborhood....

;^)

'Saw
74.766ICODSP::LEFEBVREWondering where the lions areThu Oct 25 1990 09:303
    Dan, once a Dead Head, always a Dead Head.
    
    Mark.
74.767Sports video games question.SASE::SZABOThu Oct 25 1990 13:3819
    A question for you video game phreaks.  Anyone have the SEGA Genesis
    system?  Any sports games?  How do you like it?
    
    In the last version of SPORTS, there was a sports games note which
    included discussions on Nintendo sports games.  (Maybe there should be
    a new note for sports games?)  Anyway, I'm asking about the SEGA
    Genesis because I'm considering making a switch from our present
    Nintendo system to the latest & greatest SEGA Genesis.  The problem is,
    my kids and wife (I hate video games) love Nintendo and I'd hate for
    them to wish they had it back if I get rid of it.......
    
    What I'm looking for is opinions from people who're familiar with both
    systems and/or people who have the SEGA Genesis?  I'm interested
    in comments about `adventure' games as well as sports games, as long as
    the mod's tolerate it as not overstepping the boundaries of SPORTS too
    much.......
    
    Thanks,
    Hawk
74.768PNO::HEISERIbanez: the axe built to blast!Thu Oct 25 1990 13:443
    Hawk, why don't you create a note for it?  
    
    Mike_who_also_owns_a_Nintendo_system
74.769if it's ok.......SASE::SZABOThu Oct 25 1990 13:524
    OK with you, mod's?  If so, I'll create one and transfer my .767 in
    here to reply .1 of the new note.  Let me know.
    
    Hawk
74.771new note coming up!SASE::SZABOThu Oct 25 1990 14:207
    > .....being a lightning rod.
    
    In my case, light bulb is more like it.......
    
    Rollward, Steven_boy!
    
    Hawk
74.772WMOIS::RIEU_DRead his lips...Know new taxes!Thu Oct 25 1990 14:202
       /Don knows lightnin' rods, aint that right slasher?!!
                                  Denny
74.773=8^o Right Denny...AXIS::ROBICHAUDTexasChainsawSquareDanceMassacreThu Oct 25 1990 15:491
    
74.774CSC32::J_HERNANDEZI love Kraf dinner!!Thu Oct 25 1990 16:365
    I got a nintendo. The only sports games are Tecmo Bowl, racket attack,
    Goal!, RBI Baseball, Wrestlemania, and Punch Out.
    
    I also have an Amiga. T.V. Sports football roolz!!! Earl Weaver
    baseball is cool. 
74.775Jesse-girlICODSP::LEFEBVRELet's go places and eat thingsThu Oct 25 1990 17:073
    Amiga's are for wusses.  Buy a Mac.
    
    Mark.
74.776PNO::HEISERIbanez: the axe built to blast!Thu Oct 25 1990 17:406
74.777SASE::SZABOFri Oct 26 1990 12:332
    You guys are such technoweenies......  :-)
    
74.778ICODSP::LEFEBVRELet's go places and eat thingsFri Oct 26 1990 13:595
    MIDI is for those who cain't learn to play music on their own.  Mike, 
    I've heard of player pianos, but you're telling me you have a "player
    computer?"
    
    Mark.
74.779Mike, R U serious ?EARRTH::BROOKSStraight - no chaser ...Fri Oct 26 1990 15:008
    re .776
    
    
    Get outta here ! Can the St run MAC software ??? In color ?
    
    And MIDI is standard ?
    
    Doc
74.780welcome to the 90's where MIDI is king!PNO::HEISERIbanez: the axe built to blast!Fri Oct 26 1990 15:3726
>    MIDI is for those who cain't learn to play music on their own.  Mike, 
>    I've heard of player pianos, but you're telling me you have a "player
>    computer?"

    Mark, MIDI is also for people that aren't interested in joining a band
    and/or having to learn every instrument there is and STILL allow them
    to Sequence their own arrangements and orchestrations with a complete
    band.  Do you need some drums, bass, and keyboards to go along with
    your acoustic guitar?  Do you want to learn how to read standard and
    tab musical notation via computer as opposed to spending money weekly
    for lessons?  There are great packages out there (Dr. T's comes to
    mind) that will allow you to play a note on the neck and on the screen
    you'll see the standard, tab, and neck representations via a MIDI
    interface on your guitar.  Also supports keyboards!

    And even if you're in a band, you can sequence parts and effects via
    MIDI, live on stage!  MIDI is fantastic!

>                            -< Mike, R U serious ? >-
>    Get outta here ! Can the St run MAC software ??? In color ?
>    And MIDI is standard ?
    
    Doc, completely!  3 channel, Yamaha Synthesizer sound chips are
    STANDARD!  The Mac emulation is phenomenal!

    Mike
74.781Manic nontechnoweenie depression...... :-) SASE::SZABOMon Oct 29 1990 14:2414
    Is it notes (in general), or is it my terminal?  Someone sent me a
    cutsey (stupid) Halloween mail message this morning, the kind that you
    have to EXT TT to see it.  Anyway, it screwed-up some of my terminal
    settings that I couldn't reset and I wound up powering down completely
    in hoping to recover.  Apparently, everything's back to the way I had
    it except that in notes, I'm only getting 10 lines of text instead of
    the usual 15, making it that much harder to read.  And, this is
    happening in the several conferences that I read, not just SPORTS.
    How can I get back the 15-line format?
    
    Hawk
    
    P.S.  Even in replying, the amount of lines that I'm entering appears
          to be less........
74.782AUSTIN::MACNEALBo don't know rugby!Mon Oct 29 1990 14:474
    Hawk, someone may have boobie trapped that Halloween greeting.  Check
    out your .com files and see if anything there has been changed.  I
    remember seeing warnings about some of thoses "EXT TT" type files
    awhile back.
74.783WMOIS::RIEU_DRead his lips...Know new taxes!Mon Oct 29 1990 15:402
       what type of terminal you got?
                                    Denny
74.784Hello login.com!SASE::SZABOMon Oct 29 1990 15:486
    I gots a high tech VT340......
    
    I'll look at my .com files.  That's pretty much all I cain do, is
    look....  :-)  Actually, I only have a couple, I think!
    
    Hawk
74.785STAR::YANKOWSKASPaul YankowskasMon Oct 29 1990 15:567
    re the last few:
    
    I also recall a memo about EXT TT messages last Christmas.  I just make
    it a hard and fast rule to delete those type messages upon receipt.
    
    
    py           
74.786Noting at 100% again! :-) SASE::SZABOMon Oct 29 1990 16:116
    Apparantly, doing an @login did the trick!  Thanks for the
    suggestions.....
    
    Those damned EXT TT messages!
    
    Hawk
74.787Final 16 datesLUNER::GROVESFri Nov 30 1990 10:039
    
      I don't know if this quewstion has already been asked. Here is my
    question:
    
        When is the "Final 16" this year in College basketball ?
    I have someone that works with me that wants to plan his vacation
    around that time.
    
       Jim
74.788fasten your seatbeltsUPWARD::HEISERFri Nov 30 1990 15:3048
    I didn't know where else to put this.  Sorry if some of you have seen 
    this already...
    
------- Forwarded Message
Date:         Wed, 21 Nov 90 13:14:13 CST

The White House comment line is 202-456-1111.
 
- - ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
	
    Subject: MILITARY GULF AIRLIFT ALERT!!!!!
 
    >From afsccamb Tue Nov 20 11:04 PST 1990
 
    The American Friends Service Committee in Cambridge has received
    the following information from a confidential source at Westover
    Air Force Base in Chicopee, Mass, the key supply base for
    Operation Desert Shield about what is presently being loaded onto
    planes for shipment to Saudi Arabia.  These include: 100,000 body
    bags, 10,000 units of blood plasma with a shelf life of 60 days,
    units of people to work with POS's and unknown items that are
    being loaded as per guidelines and regulations for handling
    nuclear weapons.  
    
    We have notified regional and some national press
    urging them to track down and report the story.  We have also
    communicated this to the offices of Senator Kennedy, Sen. Kerry
    and Rep. Dellums. 
    
    From our personal experience, we know that during the 1980s 
    U.S. forces were trained to fight tactical nuclear war in the 
    Middle East.  55mm howitzers are dual capable, able to fire 
    conventional and nuclear shells, and some forces have backpack 
    nuclear weapons.(though we cannot confirm that this is what is 
    being shipped.) for more information contact American
    
    Friends Service Committee, 2161 Mass. Ave., Cambridge, Mass.
    02140, ph phone 617-661-6130
 
- ------- End of Forwarded Message
 
    
    	Heard on the news this morning that the US has deployed the
    mortuary division.  It's a division that is complosed of around
    40 soldiers who perform mortuary tasks.  The report also said that
    this division hasn't been deployed since WWII!!  
    
    	Oh yea, there "other" task is to "build" cemeteries.
74.789MCIS1::DHAMELThe Recognizable ObscenityFri Nov 30 1990 15:433
    
    God, if you're out there, please don't let this happen. 8-(
    
74.790Need some laughs quick!SASE::SZABOThe Beer HunterFri Nov 30 1990 15:554
    Hey Mike, that isn't the usual friday afternoon stuff we expect to see
    in here........
    
    Hawk
74.791UPWARD::HEISERFri Nov 30 1990 17:093
    sorry Hawk.  Check out my new posting in the Joke topic.  
    
    Mike
74.792A crazy, crazy year thus far.CSC32::GL_JOHNSONAnd She Was...Fri Nov 30 1990 21:4215
    
    	Well, with both the GIANTS and 49ers falling from the unbeaten
    ranks thanks to their division rivals, and with all the other 
    division leaders losing last week, it got me to wondering:
    
    
    	Was that the first time since the AFL/NFL merger that such
    an occurrence has happened.?
    
    	I'm sure our trusty NFL stats man, John H., may know the 
    answer to this.
    
    	Thanks in advance.
    
    						 glen j.
74.793GRANPA::DFAUSTGo for 1000% moreFri Nov 30 1990 23:265
    According the the wire services, it is indeed the first time that this
    event has occured since division play started after the merger.
    
    Dennis Faust
    
74.794CAM::WAYYour house'll smell like Hurl WhiffMon Dec 03 1990 11:4111
A local radio had the trivia question "What college was Phil Simms from"
on the other day.  We all know if was Morehead State.

Now, there was one other player in the NFL who was drafted from 
Morehead State, and we were trying to remember who it was (I had said
that would have made a better trivia question)...

I can't remember.  Do any of you know who it was?


'Saw
74.795My guessMPO::MCFALLShe's myyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy babyMon Dec 03 1990 11:568
>Now, there was one other player in the NFL who was drafted from 
>Morehead State, and we were trying to remember who it was (I had said
>that would have made a better trivia question)...

	Gary Shirk, NY Giants TE, played after Bob Tucker got traded,
before Simms arrived on the scene.

	jim M
74.796My GuessSA1794::MAYHEWDPackage thisMon Dec 03 1990 13:287
>Now, there was one other player in the NFL who was drafted from 
>Morehead State, and we were trying to remember who it was (I had said
>that would have made a better trivia question)...

	Emmery Morehead, TE for the Giants and Bears.
				Bubba
74.797*:^>WFOVX8::MORRISONRipped my mind on the jagged skyThu Dec 06 1990 15:037
    
       No Bubba, not a player with the last name of Morehead but
    someone who played at Morehead State. Did you think that St
    stood for Saint and that Emmery had been canonized? Geez...
    
    Bull~
    
74.798DASXPS::TIMMONSI'm a Pepere!Fri Dec 07 1990 08:343
    Ha ha ha, nice note, Bull!!!   :*)
    
    Lee
74.799Any lottery players?SHALOT::MEDVIDNovember spawned a monsterTue Dec 11 1990 12:1311
    Anyone of yous play the Mass lottery?  I'd like to get some of those
    scratch-off tickets as a stocking stuffer for a NC friend who is a 
    lottery addict.
    
    I'll pay you for the tickets and the postage.
    
    Thanks in advance.
    
    	--dan'l
    
    PS: it's legal to do this isn't it?
74.800MPP6::CHILDSGot 2 shots, anywhere &amp; anytimeTue Dec 11 1990 13:272
 Dan-L send me mail at cntrol::Childs, I'm and addict too....
74.801CAM::WAYA ruck is a scrum for 2Tue Dec 11 1990 14:2111
JEZZEZZZ Dan'l!

Before you know it you'll be having all kinds of missives types
in by our note_counting,good_cause bashing friends who'll tell
you all about the ravages of those scracth and sniff lottery
cards, and how you're not supposed to be mentioning those things
on the e-net.....

[lotsa 8^)]  in a wiseass mood today....

'Saw
74.802#Questions...she's got questions...#SELECT::APODACATue Dec 11 1990 14:3513
    Here's my miscellaneous questions of the day:
    
    What the hell *is* a Hoya, anyway???  (other than someone who plays for
    Georgetown, that is....)  
    
    While we're on that, what's a Hoosier?  (I know what a Hoser is,
    although it sounds most like a kinky sex act)
    
    
    The best answers will win a 1991 Weekly Minder Calendar with a real
    vinyl cover.  :)
    
    ---kim
74.803FSOA::JHENDRYJohn Hendry, DTN 292-2170Tue Dec 11 1990 14:4811
    Hoya comes from an old cheer at Georgetown.  Being a Jesuit school,
    there is a great emphasis on the classics, namely, Greek and Latin. 
    Back when Georgetown used to be a football power, they had a cheer that
    contained the words "Hoya Saxa", meaning, what rocks.  Georgetown's
    teams have been known at the Hoyas, ever since.  I have no idea why the
    actual Georgetown mascot is a bulldog, however.
    
    There are several theories regarding the origin of Hoosier, but I can't
    remember any of them at this point in time.
    
    John
74.804LAGUNA::MAY_BRRush Limbaugh stole my Xmas P_nameTue Dec 11 1990 15:3011
    
    "A Hoya" is what the famous Georgetown Grads say to each other while 
    they are captaining their ships on those famous naval lanes between DC
    and Philly.  Since Georgetown is in DC, they have quite a few grads
    who've gone on to serve their country.
    
    "Hoosier" is part of a saying quite common among Indiana grads.  The
    rest of the saying is "ure pappa?"  The proper reply is "Idunno,
    doyou?"
    
    Bruce
74.805With the stubby tail, how can ya miss? :^>WFOV11::MORRISONRipped my mind on the jagged skyTue Dec 11 1990 15:398
    
       Re Bulldog as a mascot
    
          If you've every walked behing a male bulldog, the
    phrase "Hoya Saxa" would come to mind immediately.
    
    Bull~
    
74.806CAM::WAYA ruck is a scrum for 2Tue Dec 11 1990 15:5314
74.807QUASER::JOHNSTONLegitimateSportingPurpose?E.S.A.D.!Tue Dec 11 1990 16:5120
I'm not sure why, but the fad around Castle Rock grade schoolers is
Georgetown memorablelabia and paraphelabia. My kid has a Hoya 
sweatshirt, and is looking for a hat.

I asked him why... he says `it's rad'.
I say why...  he says `the bulldog'.
I say why Georgetown, I mean, there are a lot of `bulldog' schools... he
says `I dunno'.

So there you have it. Another in-depth journalistic coup that rips the
semen stained covers off of the sordid gradeschool fad scene. A scene
that abuses and corrupts innocent tykes and shames and humiliates their
Odin fearing parent.
                     .
                       .

                         . AWPK!!

Sorry
Mike JN
74.808MCIS1::DHAMELThis note results from snorting...Tue Dec 11 1990 18:1510
    
    I wouldn't be surprised if the G'town bulldog shirt had some sort of
    tie-in with some movie hero or rap group or whatever.
    
    Seems that when Eddie Murphy wore some Detroit High School shirt in
    "Beverly Hills Cop", the school was inundated with requests for them
    and sold scads of 'em.
    
    Dickstah
    
74.809STAR::YANKOWSKASPaul YankowskasTue Dec 11 1990 18:186
    re .808:
    
    Eddie Murphy wore a Mumford High shirt in Beverly Hills Cop.
    
    
    py
74.810Help!RAVEN1::B_ADAMSComin'on strong in'91Tue Dec 11 1990 18:288
    
    
    	Could someone please answer this for me?  What team did Denver beat
    last year in the AFC championship game to advance to the Super Bowl?
    
    Thanks in advance!
    
    B.A.
74.811Mr. Fashion Template hereSHALOT::MEDVIDNovember spawned a monsterTue Dec 11 1990 18:3221
    The Georgetown thing is tied into rapping.  Miami Hurricanes are also
    popular among rap groups.
    
    A few years ago, most teams that had black in their team colors sold
    enormous amounts of clothing...LA Raiders & Kings, Pittsburgh teams,
    etc. due to rappers wearing that stuff to emulate gang colors.
    
    Now teams that don't even have black in their unies market it somehow. 
    You can go to a good sporting goods store and buy any team hat in
    black.  For instance, I was watching 60 minutes the other night and
    they had this story on the blacks in Milwaukee.  In that 20 minutes I
    saw black:
    
    	- Atlanta Braves T-shirt
    	- Charlotte Hornets cap
    	- Green Bay Packers cap
    	- KC Cheifs shirt
    
    The fad will wear off soon.
    
    	--dan'l
74.812STAR::YANKOWSKASPaul YankowskasTue Dec 11 1990 18:339
    re .810:
    
    >	Could someone please answer this for me?  What team did Denver beat
    >   last year in the AFC championship game to advance to the Super Bowl?
        
    Denver beat Cleveland, 37-21.
    
    
    py
74.813CAM::WAYA ruck is a scrum for 2Tue Dec 11 1990 18:401
Gee, where's Hal Whitehair been lately?
74.814COMET::WADESanta Claus is coming to town!Tue Dec 11 1990 18:524
    
    Yeah, but have the donks ever won and nfl championship!?  ;^)
    
    Claybroon
74.815CAM::WAYKeep on ruckin'Wed Dec 12 1990 10:4512
Since we have such a widely read membership, and since I don't
feel like digging up the music file, I'll try here first.

Does anyone have the german words to "O Tannenbaum"  (you know,
O Christmas Tree)...  

You can vaxmail them to me on CAM if you do....

thanks,
Saw

PS  It's sports related because, because, because.....  oh well 8^)
74.816Hoosier revisitedCAM::MAZURIt ain't the meat, it's the lotion.Wed Dec 12 1990 13:0313
    Back to the Hoosier question:
    
    Since my wife is one, the first thing I asked her (even before I knew
    her name) was, "What the heck's a Hoosier".  She said nobody really
    knows for sure (Kinda like nobody knows why Buffalo is called Buffalo).  
    She said that it's what they've always called a native Indianan.  She
    also said that she once saw a definition of it in a dictionary that
    said a hoosier was "a slow, backward person" (no comment).  But when I
    look in my Webster's 9th, it says that it is derived from: hoozer -
    any large of its kind.  Sooooo, that all goes back to someones
    orginal attempt at a definition, 
       "Who's yer papa?" 
       "A hoozer,  at least that's what mama sez"
74.817Stats RequestAKOV06::DCARRNo prob'm, no press'a. Irie, mon!Tue Dec 18 1990 12:2615
    I don't have a question, but a request...
    
    I need the stats for some of the first few games of the NBA season, for
    two players...  Specifically, I need the stats THRU 11/4 (first Sunday
    of the season) for REGGIE THEUS and KENDALL GILL...
    
    Box scores would be great, but all I really need is: points, rebounds,
    assists, and defense...  I screwed up doing the stats in one league,
    and I'm trying to recover.
    
    There's some holiday cheer (a beer :-) in it for somebody!
    
    Thanks,
    
    ML
74.818SHALOT::MEDVIDNovember spawned a monsterTue Dec 18 1990 13:564
    Are you looking for average or totals?  If it's average, Gill is 6.4
    points, 2.4 rebounds, and 2.7 assists.  Otherwise, I don't know.
    
    	--dan'l
74.819CSC32::J_HERNANDEZThey'llBeNoMoreToyMakersToTheKingThu Dec 27 1990 14:571
    When was the last time a drop kick was used in the NFL?
74.820ACTING::MACGREGORFour time GutterBall champion!!Thu Dec 27 1990 15:091
    Howie Long drop kicked the offensive lineman this past weekend 8^)
74.821SHALOT::MEDVIDSpiderman is having me for dinnerThu Dec 27 1990 15:175
    Do you mean when was it last used regularly or when was the last
    instance?  If the latter, I think someone performed one this season but
    I can't remember who or when...and it might have been unintentional.
    
    	--dan'l
74.822CSC32::J_HERNANDEZThey'llBeNoMoreToyMakersToTheKingThu Dec 27 1990 16:391
    I meant used it for three points and actually getting them.
74.823been wondering about this latelyFRIPP::HARRISTrade Modell!Fri Dec 28 1990 14:055
    
    This may have already been asked, but...
    
    Are Sam Wyche and Super Dave Osborne twins that
    were separated at birth?