Conference 7.286::sports_90

    Moseby and Phillips will help, but they have a long, long way to go.
    Hope they find a 1B besides Lindeman...

    Any chance that hot catching prospect Phil Clark will catch on with the 
    Tigers in 1990?
    
    
    Paul (who still thinks the Tigers made out like bandits in the DuBois 
    for Moreland trade) 

This just in...

The Tigers have released Doyle Alezander and Guillermo "Willie" Hernandez.

I bet Willie get's picked up... but Doyle is done, I would guess.

       Isn't Doyle about the right age to join the Sox' staff?
                                   Denny

    Willie's gone?  Party in DECEMBER!!!

    WALT,
    
    Don't start your party yet. The reason contracts weren't offered to	
    Willie and Doyle is because they could have only cut their salaries
    by 20%. By not offering contracts they can resign them at any price.
    The Tiger's have said they would consider resigning them if no one else
    signs them. The Sporting News listed Willies stats as 15 saves with a 
    5.72 ERA that was inflated by 3 appearances when he yielded 11 runs in
    11 1/3 innings.
    
    Also the Sporting News indicated that Bo Schembechler could replace Jim
    Campbell as the Tigers' President. He is on the Board of Directors and
    is a good friend of Tom Monaghan.
    
    Wes
    

    Wes, does that mean that the Tigers will never win another road
    game in So. Cal.?
    
    :*)
    
    Lee

    
    I sure hope not. Maybe they can hire Bo and make his stay away from the
    coast. Especially since they are the swing team this year and will have
    to make 4 trips to the coast instead of the normal 2.
    
    wes

    > The Sporting News listed Willies stats as 15 saves with a  5.72 ERA
    > that was inflated by 3 appearances when he yielded 11 runs in 11 1/3
    > innings.
    
    If that's the case, then his other 29 appearances only covered 20
    innings, with an ERA of 4.05 in those games.  Still not that
    outstanding......
    
    -- dg

    Sigh....

    Read yesterday that Willie is presently throwing at 80% since his
    operation.  He had one similar to what Tommy John had, I'd guess
    it was a rotator cuff type, although not as extensive as what John
    had.
    
    Tigers are still interested in him at this point.
    
    Jack Morris is the key for this year.  I think he's eligible for
    Colussion II, which may mean he's a free agent upon that ruling.
    
    Anything new on him?
    
    Lee

    News reports say Bo S. of Michigan fame is the new Tigers G.M.
    
    Bob V.
    

    
    Make that "President".
    

    Oh boy, even better, than Guillermo... an 80% Guillermo....
    maybe it might take an extra second before it reaches the upper deck
    now...
    
    -Walt

       Heard a rumor about a new stadium for the Tigers in the next 5
    years. Possibly a domed stadium. If then built a stadium like Toronto
    and put grass inside and only closed it while it was raining and they
    are trying to play they could make it go. But Astrotuff!!!!   YUCK.
    
    Wes

    I've heard this the last couple of years.  Tiger stadium's getting
    up there in years.  It's getting unsafe structually.  I heard about
    something like Toronto with grass, but who knows....

    Hey, the boys are HOT!  What's going on?  Petry is 4-1, and Cecil
    leads, or is near to the top of, HR's and RBIs.  He's also in the
    top 10 or so for average.  How long a contract did he sign?
    
    Good Golly, Miss Molly!
    
    Lee
    

    2 years, $3 million +
    
    Seven in a row, I still can't get worked up over it though.  The
    ERA is last in the league... until that comes down, they're going
    nowhere.  I'll take it though... We'll see if Jack can get his
    act together tonight.

    Walt, team defense must be pretty low, too.  Seems like everytime
    I read the box scores during the earlier part of the season, it
    was Hi ERA's and lots of boo-boos, with some hitting mixed in. 
    
    Now, the hitting is even better, the pitching has improved somewhat,
    and I guess the defense has improved, too.  Could it be that the
    Tigers took longer to get used to the new, downsized, gloves? :*)
    
    Lee
    

    Well, the run finally ended last night -- KC 9 - DET 8 -- Morris got
    clobbered again.  Had a chance in the bottom of the 9th but someone
    (dunno who) struck out on a high slider with two out and two on. 
    The lone bright spot -- Whitaker seems to be out of his slump.
    
    /Ed

      It was Heath who struck out. Morris gave up 7 runs but only 4 were
    earned. Still they should have won that game. Blew a 5-0 lead after 2
    innings.
    
    Wes

    Well, they got another string going, and Fielder hit #17 last nite.
    
    Lee

    .... they've lost 5 in a row !
    
    /Ed 8^(

    Won Friday in Seattle. Cecil Fielder had a grad slam and 5 RBI as the
    boys won 9-7. Morris picks up the victory despite surrendering a grand
    slam to Jay Buhner. He also had 5 RBI.
    
    Saturday was a different story. Randy Johnson threw the first no-hitter
    in Seattle history against Detroit in a 2-0 victory. Jeff Robinson took
    the loss. Johnson walked 6 and struck out 8.
    
    Also read that Detroit signed catcher Jody Davis. He is working out at
    Toledo and could be activated soon. Would expect eith Mark Salas to be
    sent down or released or Matt Nokes to be traded.
    
    Also Don Lovell, former Cleveland 1B prospect retired from baseball.
    
    Wes
    

    Wes,
    
    As you predicted, Nokes was traded -- to the Yankees for some needed
    pitching help: Lance McCullers and Clay Parker.  Salas, who they held
    on to for some strange reason, broke an 0-19 slump with a winning
    homerun yesterday.
    
    /Ed

    
    
    
    Does anyone have the home mailing address of Al Kaline or know where 
    he could be contacted to sign a piece of memorabilia?
    
    Please reply or send me mail.
    
    
    Bob 

From:	CLUSTA::MCEVOY       "Gobie tuna wah wah"  3-NOV-1990 09:26:59.59
To:	REFINE::ASHE
CC:	
Subj:	Another Tiger fan



Yes Walt, our Tiger section of the bleachers will be plus one next year-
  baby girl - Madison Marie.  She was born last Tuesday morning and
  we're pretty psyched about her.  So far she's letting us get quite a
  bit of sleep (I'm sure those drugs Dennis is slipping her are helping).

anyway - thought you'd want to hear the news.

-take it easy - Kristen
    

    Given the history of the MVP award, it's understandable, e.g., 1941
    when Ted Williams won the triple crown (including a .406 batting
    average), Joe Dimaggio won the MVP -- his 56 game hitting streak
    probably had something to do with it, too.
    
    (What team won the pennant that year?)
    
    Aw, give Rickey his due; he makes the A's go and has the stats to go
    with it!  Cecil's good, but he only managed to bring an awful team up
    to the level of mediocrity.
    
    /Ed

    Completely removed from the fates of their teams, Rickey deserved it.
    But I have no doubt that the reason most of the writers voted for him
    was because the A's won their division and the Tigers didn't.
    
    glenn
     

Personally, I think Cecil should have gotten it....

FWIW,
'Saw

    Nice pick-up by the Tiggers, getting Rob Deer.  The local rag
    says they'll bat Whittaker between Feilder (4th) and Deer (6th).
    Guess they need a buffer between all those strikeouts.  ;-)
    
    Seriously, Deer is a fine fielder and can go deep on you.  Puts
    the Tigers ahead of the Red Sox and Brewers, IMO.  Now, if they can
    sign Welch ....
    
    NAZZ

    >Aw, give Rickey his due; he makes the A's go and has the stats to go
    >with it!  Cecil's good, but he only managed to bring an awful team up
    >to the level of mediocrity.
    
    1) Who's going to remember Rickey's stats in 2 years?
    2) With Canseco, the pitching staff and the team, would losing
       Rickey have cost them that much?  I think they still finish
       where they finish.
    3) Awful to mediocre can be a lot when it's a difference of 20 games.
       The difference certainly wasn't the pitching staff.
    
    Rickey should have been 3rd....

    
    
    	So, BOnehead Schembechler fired Ernie Harwell.
    
    what an idiot.

    Yup, major Doltdum... Ernie Harwell is a national treasure.  Won't
    be the same without him...
    
    And Kristen, last I checked, Guillermo's been gone for over a year...

    Gotta agree with the last couple; the Harwell firing makes absolutely
    no sense.  They had an item about it on CNN news the other day;
    Domino's Pizzas in the greater Detroit area, concerned about a possible
    boycott (the Tigers' owner also owns Dominos Pizza), have been
    answering the phones "Domino's Pizza, we support Ernie Harwell, can I
    help you?".  
    
    
    py

    All I've heard of is the controversy and the disappointment in Detroit. 
    Would someone please fill me in on why Harwell was so loved and what
    prompted his firing.
    
    Thanks.
    
    	--dan'l

       Just listen to him. He isn't a homer. He reports the game and adds
    very little color. He has a voice that you won't forget once you have
    heard it. He has been with the Tigers since 1960. So many of the fans
    have only heard Ernie on the radio. He has broadcast several World
    Series on national radio.
    
       ESPN did a segment on him on Major League Baseball Magazine. I was
    fantastic for me being a die-hard Tiger fan. I nearly brings me to
    tears. Growing up in PA. I remember being able to tune in games. The
    signal was weak and would fade and I could only pickup after 9pm but
    it was well worth it.  He is the only announcer traded for a player.
    He did the play by play on the first coast to coast live TV broadcast.
    This was the game when Bobby Thompson homered for the Giants. You
    probably remember the radio broadcast "THE GIANTS WIN THE PENNANT...."
       
        He shows so much class especially in the way this has been handled.
    The local fans are irate. I thought for sure he would be able to write
    his own ticket instead of being forced out. Bo should be the one to
    retire. A Quote in the Sporting News (MARK WHICKER) "What did he ever
    do to antagonize the coach? Invent the Rose Bowl?  They didn't even
    want him around for this season. Bo didn't even want to announce it
    himself. He wanted Ernie to do it for him.
    
        A friend just came back from Detroit and said that bomb threats
    are being called into almost all Dominos Pizzas in the area. He even
    said that the Owners' daughters house burnt down (not sure on exact
    cause). The plan is for a boycott of openning day. Ernie ask that the
    fans not do anything to hurt the Tigers.
    
        I myself am tempted to write a letter. I doubt it will do any good
    but as you can probably tell this is an emotional issue with me. IMHO
    he was the best announcer radio had to offer. Skully and Buck don't
    even come close.
    
    Wes.
    
    PS  LAtest bumper stickers/T-shirts in Detroit.
    
    BO Don't Know Baseball!
    

    
    Just the latest in a long line of Bo Schembechler bungles.  Quite
    obviously, the guy doesn't know what he's up against in the world of
    baseball.  It's a little different than with football where you can
    fire, berate, or otherwise abuse just about anyone and the beat will go
    on.  I'm delighted over the way the people of Detroit have responded on
    this issue.  Ernie Harwell is what Harry Caray is to Chicago, with five
    times the talent and ten times the class.  Maybe Bo'll have to step
    down or something ('cuz you know Monaghan ain't gonna take the heat).
    
    glenn
    

    The broadcaster who is most known (and whose broadcast is replayed) of
    the Bobby Thomson home run was Harwell's partner with the Giants, Russ
    Hodges.  Harwell and Hodges sounded not at all alike.
    
    Firing Ernie Harwell is a bigger crime and makes as much sense as the
    Red Sox firing Ned Martin from radio after the 1978 season.  Jim Woods,
    Martin's partner, showed as much integrity as Harwell's partner, Paul
    Carey, is showing now.  Both quit in support.
    
    I used to like Bo Schembechler but I can't stand him anymore.
    
    John

    Would it be a similar analogy as if the Celtics had fired Johnny Most a
    few years ago?
    

Acording to what I read in the Globe, Bo Scumbucket thought that Harwell was
going blind and it was affecting his ability to call a game.  Apparently, his
doctor refuted that categorically.

j.

    re .42    I couldn't remember who called the Giant's game when Thompson
    hit the homer. Strange thing was that Ernie and Russ alternated radio
    and TV and it was Ernie's turn for TV. Just turn out to be the first
    coast to coast live broadcast and it is basically unknown because of
    Hodges famous call of the homer.
    
    Also got some Detroit papers and all Bo and WJR will say is the want to
    go in a new direction. It is rumoured that Frank Beckman, who does play
    by play for Michigan and is a good friend of Bo will be the
    replacement.
    
    And one correction. The t-shirt/bumper stickers say 
    
    BO Don't Know ERNIE.   (And I have a T-Shirt. It will look good with
    my Tiger Hat).
    
    Wes