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Conference stkhlm::magtape

Title:MAGNETIC TAPEDRIVES
Moderator:STKHLM::GJOHNSSON
Created:Mon Sep 21 1987
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3775
Total number of notes:13147

1794.0. "Overcome PARITY ERROR on tape ?" by TAV02::ORAD::LAOR (I'm going crazy, Wa'na come ?....) Mon Aug 23 1993 15:03

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1794.1CX3PST::MOUTNS::G_FROEHLINBURGUNDY? Let's open the bottlesWed Aug 25 1993 04:267
1794.2can't even skip the bad record!??!COMEUP::SIMMONDSlock (M); while (not *SOMETHING) { Wait(C,M); } unlock(M)Mon Feb 03 1997 04:197
.7>    COULD SOMEONE FROM TAPE ENG. GIVE US A GOOD EXPLANATION WHY TAPE DRIVES
.7>    LIKE THIS DO NOT ALLOW TO READ PAST A PARITY ERROR? THANKS!
    
    I want and need to know too..  anyone care to enlighten us?
    
    Thanks,
    John.
1794.3TAPE::PETERSMon Feb 03 1997 20:1520
re .1 .2


	Why do errors stop tape drives ?


	First you need to understand how bad the tape must be to get a error.
The DLT drives ( including TK30,TK50,TK70,TK85,TK86,TK87,TK88,TK89 ) use 
CRC and xor blocks to detect and correct errors. The drive will correct
up to 4KBytes of bad data in one spot. The real problem starts when the 
phase lock loops loose the signal. These drives use the phase lock loop
signal to follow the track. When the signal is lost the drive can't find
the track any more. The drive reports a position lost and stops. When
Digital designed tape drives we put extra code in the drive to go beyond the
error. Now that we buy the drives from third party vendors they are not
willing to add this feature for us. This is the price for going to open
systems.


			Steve P.
1794.4Parity Error on TLZ6l, TLZ7L's QuestionKYOSS1::LUIZZAMon Feb 03 1997 23:436
    
    Steve,
    Does this also apply for TLZ6l's and TLZ7l drive type or do they handle
    parity conditions worse?
    
    /Irv
1794.5TAPE::PETERSTue Feb 04 1997 01:5712
	The DAT tapes ( TLZ04, TLZ06, TLZ07, TLZ09 ) fail in
much the same way as DLT. The DAT drives use a reed-solemon
type ECC. For a DAT to loose data, multiple stripes must fail.
In this case the head/drum loose tracking. We made HP put
extra code in the TLZ04 to recover. We also pushed on the
TLZ06/07 vendor to add code and got a few changes but nothing
was done for the TLZ09. Because SCSI doesn't require them to
do it and Digital is the only company asking for it, don't
expect any future drives to read past very bad spots.

		STEVE P.
1794.6LEFTY::CWILLIAMSCD or not CD, that's the questionFri Feb 07 1997 18:5310
    
    The TLZ04,6, and 7 will probably read thru most bad spots.... I beat on
    the vendors to get that code there.
    
    This is the first I've heard that the TLZ09 has a problem there. It's
    still in the spec that it be able to do that.
    
    Chris W.