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Conference 7.286::digital_investing

Title:Digital Investing
Moderator:a-61.tunnel.crl.dec.com::needle
Created:Mon Nov 06 1995
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:476
Total number of notes:10632

475.0. "SAVE Plan - Q3 Performance" by POWDML::HUNTER () Wed Apr 30 1997 11:44

    Today (if time allows) I am going to get on the net and check the 
    Q3 performance of our SAVE plan portfolios against the rest of the 
    industry.
    
    Before I do however I thought I'd ask if anyone has done this yet 
    and, if so, what do the numbers look like?
    
    Also, please don't hesitate to use this note for any discussion on 
    relative performance, etc.
                              
    Barrie
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475.1PCBUOA::KRATZWed Apr 30 1997 21:267
    The Templeton Foreign Fund has classically outperformed other
    International funds, although I don't know what the Int'l funds
    did relative to its 3.5% return in [DIGITAL's] Q3.  In 1996,
    the average return for International funds was 3% and TEMFX
    did better than 18%.  Note that the definition of "International"
    sometimes includes funds with U.S. stocks, but usually doesn't.
    K
475.2PADC::KOLLINGKarenWed Apr 30 1997 22:046
    Don't forget that a lot of stocks temporarily really tanked starting
    in February and up through about the first part of April, only to
    rebound recently.  So, the first quarter by itself doesn't necessarily
    mean a lot.  Ex: Microsoft, now up 47% for the year, bless its heart
    :-)
    
475.3HELIX::SONTAKKEThu May 01 1997 18:382
    I was shocked to see Stock Fund B showing negative returns for the last
    12 months.
475.4Not Too Much of a SurpriseNCMAIL::YANUSCThu May 01 1997 21:1418
    re: .3
    
    Don't be too shocked at the performance (or lack thereof) of Stock Fund
    B, the Putnam Voyager A fund.  It is the classic case of a fund that
    invests primarily in small-cap stocks, but has gotten too big in terms
    of asset size to be able to accomplish its goal.  Money Magazine put
    them on a watch list last year, since they and others that have taken
    in large sums from investors cannot any longer accomplish their primary
    goals. 
    
    Plus the types of companies Putnam Voyager invests in (primarily small)
    have tanked big time.  Let's face it - most of the uptick in the market
    has been to the benefit of big stocks such as IBM, Microsoft and
    others.  Small caps have been beaten down big time during Q1, which
    also impacts their 12 month record in a big way.
    
    Chuck 
    
475.5Morningstar on Neuberger & Berman GuardianUNXA::ZASLAWSteve ZaslawThu May 01 1997 23:4850
In its ratings of 25 April 1997, Morningstar gives Neuberger & Berman Guardian
a four-star rating (above average) for the last five years among all stock
funds. Among this set of funds, it rates Guardian's returns as above average
and its risk as average. (Return and risk are categorized as one of: high,
above average, average, below average, or low.)

However, it's a very different story for Morningstar's three-year rating of N&B
Guardian within the stock-fund category "Large Value". Here our fund has only a
single star, which I believe is the worst 10% of all funds in the categoy. It
rates its return as below average and its risk as high for the 3-year period
among its peer large value funds.

The Morningstar analyst, one Michael Stout, has this to say, dated 04-11-97:

    Neuberger & Berman Guardian Fund is moving toward a more aggressive stance,
    but the transition is in reliable hands.

    This venerable offering has come off a couple of so-so years. Its 10-year
    return still makes the large-cap value category's top quintile, but its
    1995 and 1996 gains lagged the group averages. The culprits were the
    late-1995 and mid-1996 corrections in tech stocks, which dented the fund's
    sizable tech stake, as well as last year's weakness in health care.

    Some changes are afoot, however. This fund has essentially been divided
    among three managers. Larry Marx, who joined the fund in 1988, handled
    about a third of it, including most of the technology holdings. He left in
    January, so now the fund is split between Kent Simons and Kevin Risen.
    Their styles differ somewhat from Marx's. For one thing, while Mark looked
    at a company's total cash flow, they prefer free cash flow, which is what
    is left after capital investments. That's why they've been swapping cable
    and media firms for auto, tech, and health-care stocks. More important,
    though, Simons and Risen prefer greater concentration than did Marx, who
    owned a lot of small positions. Simons says the number of stocks has so far
    dropped to 92 from 124, and that in the future some positions could get as
    large as 5% of assets.

    Simons and Risen hope their bigger bets will give the fund some extra
    punch. So far, things have gone their way. As cable and media stocks have
    struggled in 1997, the fund's financials, HMOs, and some of its tech stocks
    have performed better overall.

    As this fund's 15-year patriarch, Simons has been mainly responsible for
    its fine long-term record. Now he has more control over the portfolio than
    he has had in years. His style, which Risen shares, may make the fund more
    risky--and it was already one of the most volatile large-value
    offerings--but it could also help invigorate the fund's return.

I don't have the writeup for Putnam Voyager because it is not covered in the
publication the above opinion comes from, "Morningstar No Load Funds for Blind
Paranoid Investors," to which I subscribe.