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Conference 7.286::digital_investing

Title:Digital Investing
Moderator:a-61.tunnel.crl.dec.com::needle
Created:Mon Nov 06 1995
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:476
Total number of notes:10632

350.0. "Save Fund Prices and % Changes" by --UnknownUser-- () Tue Apr 04 1995 22:38

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350.1No Wells Fargo NAV in financial tables?VFOVAX::ZITELMANTue Apr 04 1995 22:4513
350.3Which Putnam Voyager Fund ?MKOTS3::WOODWARDWed Apr 05 1995 21:323
350.4PVOYX?SMURF::STRANGESteve Strange - Digital Unix DCE DFSWed Apr 05 1995 22:3324
350.7PCBUOA::KRATZThu Apr 06 1995 15:234
350.8CSEXP2::ANDREWSI'm the NRAThu Apr 06 1995 15:362
350.11VFOVAX::ZITELMANIs that a Kahuna burger?...Thu Apr 06 1995 16:109
350.13typo in .0?TLE::RICEThu Apr 06 1995 19:173
350.14OoopsVFOVAX::ZITELMANIs that a Kahuna burger?...Fri Apr 07 1995 01:526
350.15How are you handling dividends on the Index Fund?GLRMAI::WILKESFri Apr 07 1995 13:356
350.16VFOVAX::ZITELMANIs that a Kahuna burger?...Fri Apr 07 1995 14:3314
350.17POBOX::BATTISLand shark,pool sharkFri Apr 07 1995 20:106
350.18VFOVAX::ZITELMANIs that a Kahuna burger?...Fri Apr 07 1995 20:158
350.19POBOX::BATTISLand shark,pool sharkFri Apr 07 1995 20:162
350.21Yes Dividends Are Reflected in the Funds Tot. Ret.GLRMAI::WILKESMon Apr 10 1995 17:5918
350.22.16: Use Vanguard Institutional Index FundSOLVIT::CARLTONMon Apr 10 1995 19:277
350.23VFOVAX::ZITELMANIs that a Kahuna burger?...Tue Apr 11 1995 00:065
350.25Historical returns(?)CSOA1::LENNIGDave (N8JCX), MIG, @CYOWed Apr 12 1995 12:0916
350.26CSOA1::LENNIGDave (N8JCX), MIG, @CYOWed Apr 12 1995 12:323
350.27NETCAD::FLOWERSHub Products Engineering; DanWed Apr 12 1995 12:566
350.28CSOA1::LENNIGDave (N8JCX), MIG, @CYOWed Apr 12 1995 13:2416
350.29yVFOVAX::ZITELMANIs that a Kahuna burger?...Wed Apr 12 1995 14:3129
350.30TLE::RICEWed Apr 12 1995 21:568
350.31VFOVAX::ZITELMANIs that a Kahuna burger?...Thu Apr 13 1995 02:1917
350.33Vanguard Institutional Index Fund is S&P 500SOLVIT::CARLTONThu Apr 13 1995 15:274
350.34Is "3/29/95" date in table really "3/31/95"??SOLVIT::CARLTONThu Apr 13 1995 15:307
350.35VFOVAX::ZITELMANIs that a Kahuna burger?...Thu Apr 13 1995 16:4010
350.36MROA::SRINIVASANFri Apr 14 1995 03:3511
350.37SMURF::STRANGESteve Strange:Digital UNIX, DCE DFSFri Apr 14 1995 13:275
350.39MROA::SRINIVASANThu Apr 20 1995 18:0210
350.40Try doing this...KOALA::BRIGGSThu Apr 20 1995 21:1249
350.41What about Dividends???ALFAXP::KENDRIXDon't Worry... Be Savvy!!Fri Apr 21 1995 13:5410
350.42KOALA::BRIGGSFri Apr 21 1995 14:2337
350.43Hewitt told me they'd provide the info if I callPCBUOA::GIUNTAFri Apr 21 1995 20:3918
350.45Stable Value FundOUTSRC::HEISERthe dumbing down of AmericaFri Apr 28 1995 18:234
350.46PCBUOA::KRATZWed May 03 1995 15:147
350.47NEW save fund symbols ???CSCMA::BALICHFri May 05 1995 17:466
350.48DPDMAI::SODERSTROMBring on the CompetitionFri May 05 1995 18:416
350.49NETCAD::NISKALAThis IS the year for the Huskers!Fri May 05 1995 18:497
350.50Clarify?STOHUB::SLBLUZ::WINKLEMANWinkleaustinmanFri May 05 1995 19:0310
350.51The others look correct, but I think it's TEMFXSMURF::STRANGESteve Strange:Digital UNIX, DCE DFSFri May 05 1995 19:059
350.52TEMFX is CorrectSOLVIT::CARLTONFri May 05 1995 20:213
350.53Putnam Voyager Fund Manager Leaving?AKOCOA::WARDWed May 10 1995 12:476
350.56PCBUOA::KRATZWed May 10 1995 19:279
350.57CSCMA::BALICHThu May 11 1995 12:526
350.583/31/95 Net Asset ValuesVFOVAX::ZITELMANIs that a Kahuna burger?...Thu May 11 1995 14:1314
350.59MROA::SRINIVASANFri May 12 1995 07:266
350.603/24/95 NAVsKOALA::BRIGGSFri May 12 1995 15:287
350.61PCBUOA::KRATZFri May 12 1995 17:423
350.62Windsor->Guardian detailsVSSCAD::SIGELFri May 12 1995 17:5821
350.63incompetence, or even worse?WRKSYS::SCHUMANNNever tested on vegetablesFri May 12 1995 21:0615
350.64MROA::SRINIVASANSat May 13 1995 09:1910
350.65Make that two of us...POBOX::CORSONHigher, and a bit more to the rightSat May 13 1995 17:4611
350.66How/what are you tracking price per share/unit ?DABEAN::NEARYSun May 14 1995 23:4617
350.67VFOVAX::ZITELMANIs that a Kahuna burger?...Mon May 15 1995 03:3015
350.68more like 2.7% behindSTOHUB::SLBLUZ::WINKLEMANWinkleaustinmanMon May 15 1995 12:5811
350.69AMCFAC::RABAHYdtn 471-5160, outside 1-810-347-5160Mon May 15 1995 17:015
350.70Windsor not "shadowed"VSSCAD::SIGELMon May 15 1995 19:5710
350.71VSSCAD::SIGELMon May 15 1995 20:5820
350.72MROA::SRINIVASANTue May 16 1995 09:5113
350.73PERFOM::WIBECANAcquire a choirTue May 16 1995 13:199
350.74if enough people are upset...WRKSYS::SCHUMANNNever tested on vegetablesTue May 16 1995 20:2617
350.75MROA::SRINIVASANTue May 23 1995 18:40104
350.76TLE::RICETue May 23 1995 20:5521
350.77CSOA1::LENNIGDave (N8JCX), MIG, @CYOWed May 24 1995 15:2312
350.78VFOVAX::ZITELMANIs that a Kahuna burger?...Fri May 26 1995 14:4839
350.79Called Hewitt: they don't want to confuse usDABEAN::NEARYSat Jul 01 1995 02:3948
350.80CSCMA::BALICHThu Jul 06 1995 18:135
350.81some numbers...KOALA::BRIGGSThu Jul 06 1995 19:2923
350.82REGENT::LASKOC&P Printer Systems EngineeringThu Jul 06 1995 21:126
350.83KOALA::BRIGGSThu Jul 06 1995 21:2515
350.84A Relevant AssumptionSTOHUB::SLBLUZ::WINKLEMANWinkleaustinmanThu Jul 06 1995 21:478
350.86REGENT::LASKOC&P Printer Systems EngineeringFri Jul 07 1995 14:041
350.87quite different from .81PCBUOA::KRATZWed Jul 12 1995 20:0018
350.88the numbers...KOALA::BRIGGSWed Jul 12 1995 21:1730
350.89PMICO Fund/Whats going on?DPDMAI::KENNEDYMon Jul 24 1995 22:5019
350.90ROCK::GRONOWSKIThe dream is always the sameTue Jul 25 1995 11:568
350.91"If only I had spoken to you first."DPDMAI::KENNEDYTue Jul 25 1995 14:064
350.92more on bondsTLE::RICETue Jul 25 1995 14:5233
350.93Bonds are BoringIVOSS1::VILLALOBO_GITue Jul 25 1995 16:4036
350.94more prices?XIRTLU::schottEric R. Schott USG Product ManagementTue Aug 01 1995 12:2511
350.95S&P vs Foreign funds: your ideas ?DABEAN::NEARYBob Neary Lexington,MassTue Apr 16 1996 01:3220
350.96SMURF::RSPRicky PalmerTue Apr 16 1996 15:369
350.97Data! Data! Data!HUMANE::NQOS01::nqsrv408.nqo.dec.com::ThompsonkrKris ThompsonWed Apr 17 1996 00:2935
350.98Hit for averageCXXC::REINIGThis too shall changeFri Apr 19 1996 21:035
350.99DECC::OUELLETTEOurs go past 11Wed Apr 24 1996 18:047
350.100PCBUOA::KRATZFri Aug 30 1996 18:545
350.101No more Wells Fargo ??MAL009::MAGUIREThu Sep 05 1996 12:215
350.102DIALED SAVE GOT AMOCO 401K PROGRAMSTOWOA::HOPKINSThu Dec 19 1996 20:1017
350.103Hmm TypicalSSDEVO::RMCLEANThu Dec 19 1996 21:522
350.104MARVIN::CLEVELANDFri Dec 20 1996 09:359
350.105Yes, I have gotten into another DEC account the same way....not good.FIEVEL::FILGATEBruce Filgate SHR3-2/W4 237-6452Fri Dec 20 1996 10:015
350.106PADC::KOLLINGKarenFri Dec 20 1996 16:555
350.107How can a gain be a loss????PTOSS1::BREZLERTue Apr 22 1997 12:368
    Just got my Q1 C97 SAVE statement. Something I really don't understand.
    One of the accounts I've invested in is Portfolio 3. The reported
    re3turns for the last three months show a +9.84%. However, my dollars
    reflect a loss for the last three months. I really don't understand how
    this could happen.
    
    Any enlighteners out there?????
    
350.108DECCXL::WIBECANThat's the way it is, in Engineering!Tue Apr 22 1997 14:0013
>>    Just got my Q1 C97 SAVE statement. Something I really don't understand.
>>    One of the accounts I've invested in is Portfolio 3. The reported
>>    re3turns for the last three months show a +9.84%. However, my dollars
>>    reflect a loss for the last three months. I really don't understand how
>>    this could happen.

Did you move a lot of money into this portfolio in March?  The price is higher
at the end of March than at the beginning of January, but it did take a hit
during March (as did many of the 401k funds).

The same thing happened to me, albeit with different funds.

						Brian
350.109bogusPCBUOA::KRATZTue Apr 22 1997 15:314
    The best performing fund in calendar Q1 was the Templeton Foreign
    (+3.5% on the end of March 31, 1997).  It's hard to mix things
    in portfolio 3 that returned less and get a higher 9.84%.
    Kratz        
350.110SAVE Statement Error ?SCASS1::PARKERDCc/o Lonesome Dove, TexasTue Apr 22 1997 15:475
    There seems to be a problem with the latest SAVE statement.  Their
    summary of the results for each fund is exactly the same for the last 3
    months as it is for the last 12 months.  I doubt that that was the
    case!
    
350.111BGSDEV::POEGELTue Apr 22 1997 16:4314
>>       <<< Note 350.110 by SCASS1::PARKERDC "c/o Lonesome Dove, Texas" >>>
>>                          -< SAVE Statement Error ? >-

>>    There seems to be a problem with the latest SAVE statement.  Their
>>    summary of the results for each fund is exactly the same for the last 3
>>    months as it is for the last 12 months.  I doubt that that was the
>>    case!

It makes me wonder about the competence of the company managing SAVE if
they can't even catch such a glaring error on the statements.

Garry    

350.112Some 3 month numbers obtained over the phoneUNIFIX::HARRISJuggling has its ups and downsWed Apr 23 1997 01:0219
    I called and they acknowledged the error, and were willing to send me a
    new printout if I could remember my account code (which I couldn't :-)
    
    Anyway, here are some of the % for a few of the funds that I have money
    in:
                              Past 3 Months
        Bond Fund		(0.65%)
    	Equity Index Fund	 2.70%
    	Stock Fund A		 0.44%
    	International Fund	 3.48%
    	Stock Fund B		(5.09%)
    
    Any typos and misunderstandings of what I thought I heard over the phone
    are mine.
    
    After I removed my contributions and the company matching
    contributions, my total gain was (drum roll please...) $5.15
    
    					Bob Harris
350.113Great companyRLTIME::COOKWed Apr 23 1997 12:497
>    I called and they acknowledged the error, and were willing to send me a
>    new printout if I could remember my account code (which I couldn't :-)
    
Are you saying that they sent account information to everyone with incorrect 
data and are not going to send correct ones unless we ask?

350.114you'll have to call, blather-speak at workREGENT::LASKOTim - Printing Systems BusinessWed Apr 23 1997 14:4213
    Re: .113
    
    I called immediately last night and was asked for my name and badge
    number. (I was also asked for my PIN which I thought was very insecure
    and told them so but the benefits-droid at the other end of the phone
    insisted that he couldn't send me a new statement without it.) When
    asked if there was anything else I needed, I said that I expected to
    not have had to ask for a correction. He then blathered for a while
    about how not everyone received incorrect statements and that they
    didn't want to cause confusion by re-issuing everyone's staetments. I
    just hung up, I don't need to tilt at that windmill of blather. 
    
    But the message is, you better call.
350.115VSSCAD::SIGELWed Apr 23 1997 15:2016
Re .114

BE is claiming that only some people received statements with bad
performance summary information, so not only do they not have to 
send out new statements to everyone, they don't have to send them 
at all unless someone notices that the information is bad and calls?
The whole point is to give people accurate and timely information,
and they've failed on accurate.

So far, no one in this conference has mentioned getting correct
performance summary data.  Did anyone here get a statement on which 
the three-month figures did not match the 12-month figures?  And if 
so, did the three-month numbers match those .112 got over the phone?
I'd like to know whether BE is being inaccurate in this regard as well.

-- Andrew
350.116PCBUOA::KRATZWed Apr 23 1997 15:286
    When you're 401k doesn't turn out the way you like, just
    turn around and sue the plan adminsitrator and use the
    bad statement as evidence of negligence.  They're liable
    for informing you of choices and performance.
    K
    
350.117re -1; me,tooGRANPA::JWOODWed Apr 23 1997 15:281
    mine was wrong!!!
350.118DECCXL::WIBECANThat's the way it is, in Engineering!Wed Apr 23 1997 16:1111
>> So far, no one in this conference has mentioned getting correct
>> performance summary data.  Did anyone here get a statement on which 
>> the three-month figures did not match the 12-month figures?

Mine didn't match; one value was off by 0.01.  :-}

By the way, if you check the beginning and ending prices for Portfolio 3,
you'll see that it lost value over the quarter.  (I didn't calculate the
percentage.)

						Brian
350.119Not correct on mineMROA::CESARIOVinyl DinosaurWed Apr 23 1997 16:346
    
    My numbers were exact in both columns, too.  I only wish the results
    were different because of this error.
    
    Lou
    
350.120My statement has the same errorUNXA::ZASLAWSteve ZaslawWed Apr 23 1997 16:392
Mine also contains the error. Perhaps we should complain to whomever in
DIGITAL is responsible for the 401(k) plan. Anyone know who? 
350.121ALFSS2::BEKELE_DWhen indoubt THINK!Wed Apr 23 1997 17:253
    Mine too!  Also, I do not understand why they lump gain/losses
    in the "Other Account Activity" catagory in the account summary
    section.
350.122STARCH::shr-dhcp-40-58.shr.dec.com::whalenRich WhalenThu Apr 24 1997 14:515
Mine was wrong.  This morning I got a message from Reader's Choice stating that a 
correction letter will be sent out.

Rich

350.123Corrected returns table on the wayVSSCAD::SIGELThu Apr 24 1997 17:449
Re .122

It looks like everyone's SAVE statement had the same fund return 
information error (repeating the 12 month return in the 3 month column).

The Reader's Choice message said as much, and was sent to all members
"of the US SAVE Plan."  (Corrections to be received within a few days.)

-- Andrew