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Conference 7.286::digital_investing

Title:Digital Investing
Moderator:a-61.tunnel.crl.dec.com::needle
Created:Mon Nov 06 1995
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:476
Total number of notes:10632

17.0. "Wash sale rules and ESPP DEC stock" by RDVAX::GEROVAC (Branko J. Gerovac) Mon Jan 27 1992 00:20

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17.1market purchase and espp sale of DEC stock ?RDVAX::GEROVACBranko J. GerovacMon Jan 27 1992 00:2637
17.2could be a washSQM::TRUMPLERHelp prevent truth decay.Mon Jan 27 1992 19:0517
17.3Is this a wash?AICADB::RAJANMon Feb 24 1992 14:263
17.4may be a washCSSE::NEILSENWally Neilsen-SteinhardtThu Feb 27 1992 15:4611
17.5Is that really correct ?ELWOOD::KAPLANLarry Kaplan, DTN: 237-6872Thu Feb 27 1992 20:0411
17.6Anyone have Pub 550 ?ELWOOD::KAPLANLarry Kaplan, DTN: 237-6872Fri Feb 28 1992 15:3716
17.7Hope this helpsSMAUG::LOVEJOYFri Feb 28 1992 15:4711
17.8What is the ESPP date of record?CRLVMS::STEWARTLarry StewartTue Mar 31 1992 17:3330
17.9QUIVER::DESMONDWed Jun 03 1992 13:0314
17.10to wash or not to wash...VAXWRK::SWARDCommon sense is not that commonMon Nov 16 1992 17:498
17.11HTHNIKKOR::ANDERSONBIG RED FAN, Went to LITTLE BROWNMon Nov 16 1992 20:5312
17.12VAXWRK::SWARDCommon sense is not that commonTue Nov 17 1992 16:0911
17.13Is there a 5-year (or old stock) wrinkle?DCEIDL::CLARKWard ClarkTue Apr 12 1994 18:2515
17.14Wash KOALA::BOUCHARDThe enemy is wiseTue Apr 12 1994 19:0020
17.15The second interpretation is correct...SMURF::STRANGESteve Strange - USGTue Apr 12 1994 20:228
17.16ESPP and options..AD::CRUZMon Dec 05 1994 13:218
17.17Does the wash rule apply here?VB200::WARRENTue May 23 1995 21:2622
17.18My guess on how it worksUNXA::ZASLAWTue May 23 1995 22:1713
17.19Re: Wash sale rules and ESPP DEC stockQUABBI::"halstead"Bert HalsteadWed May 24 1995 02:4143
17.20Figuring this stuff out youy need a degree!CSCMA::BALICHWed May 24 1995 13:2422
17.21I totally agree!WRKSYS::RICHARDSONWed May 24 1995 18:4615
17.22NETRIX::michaudJeff Michaud, That GroupWed May 24 1995 21:0511
17.23too complicated to bother withWRKSYS::SCHUMANNNever tested on vegetablesThu May 25 1995 01:3014
17.24Sell in JulyDOTWRK::WARRENThu May 25 1995 11:239
17.25CSOA1::LENNIGDave (N8JCX), MIG, @CYOThu May 25 1995 12:448
17.26NETRIX::michaudJeff Michaud, That GroupThu May 25 1995 13:1815
17.27CSOA1::LENNIGDave (N8JCX), MIG, @CYOThu May 25 1995 14:1918
17.28Now I am confused.SOLVIT::CHENThu May 25 1995 14:2410
17.29NETRIX::michaudJeff Michaud, That GroupThu May 25 1995 14:4423
17.30SOLVIT::CHENThu May 25 1995 15:2315
17.31NETRIX::michaudJeff Michaud, That GroupThu May 25 1995 16:2510
17.32SLOAN::HOMThu May 25 1995 16:2610
17.33SOLVIT::CHENThu May 25 1995 17:038
17.34The MA six month gapVSSCAD::SIGELThu May 25 1995 20:3113
17.35buy date?BUSY::CLEMENTSmells like NirvanaFri May 26 1995 12:496
17.36NETRIX::michaudJeff Michaud, That GroupFri May 26 1995 13:076
17.37NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Wed May 31 1995 13:3526
17.38NETRIX::michaudJeff Michaud, That GroupWed May 31 1995 14:0412
17.39You still have "ordinary income"PROXY::MOORETom Moore PK1/B1 DTN-223-6309Wed May 31 1995 15:3710
17.40SLOAN::HOMWed May 31 1995 16:3825
17.41AccountantsNEWVAX::BUCHMANUNIX refugee in a VMS worldThu Jun 08 1995 16:4917
17.42Date of ESPP buy this NovemberBOOKIE::FALLETTue Oct 29 1996 12:149
17.43QUARK::LIONELFree advice is worth every centTue Oct 29 1996 13:0317
17.44PCBUOA::KRATZTue Oct 29 1996 14:5210
17.45vaxcpu.zko.dec.com::michaudJeff Michaud - ObjectBrokerTue Oct 29 1996 15:0513
17.46DECCXX::WIBECANGet a state on itTue Oct 29 1996 17:149
17.47ENGPTR::MCMAHONTue Oct 29 1996 20:347
17.48I'd like to wash my hands of this...UNXA::ZASLAWSteve ZaslawThu May 08 1997 18:309
> The wash rule prevents people from selling stock at a loss,
> posting the sale in the current tax year, and then buying it back
> within thirty days.

Now that we're in that +/- 30 day period, if tomorrow I sell shares
currently in my account, at a loss, and, on, say, June 2 sell my new ESPP
shares optained the day before, is this a wash sale? 

Thanks.
17.49STAR::PARKESometimes pigeon, Sometimes statueThu May 08 1997 20:1411
    Re .48
    
    I believe all you have to do is BUY shares back (EPP Purchase before
    sale) to cause it to be a "wash" sale.   
    
    This is what can make such things as EPP and Dividend Reinvestment
    plans tricky since they have fixed purchase dates involved.   It all
    hangs on selling, then buying and I don't believe it even needs to be an
    equivalent number of shares.
    
    
17.50VSSCAD::SIGELFri May 09 1997 18:1219
Re .48

> Now that we're in that +/- 30 day period, if tomorrow I sell shares
> currently in my account, at a loss, and, on, say, June 2 sell my new ESPP
> shares optained the day before, is this a wash sale? 

Yes.  If you "buy" the June 1 ESPP shares, any shares sold *at a loss*
between May 2 and June 1, up to the number of new ESPP shares, are
considered to be a wash sale.  (Shares sold at a gain are not.)

If you then sell the June 1 ESPP shares on June 2, add the loss
that you couldn't take earlier to the basis of your June 1 shares,
which increases your June 2 loss and makes the total come out right.
However, your purchase date for the June 2 sale will is considered to 
be that of the shares you sold earlier under wash sale conditions.

(See Publication 550 for all the gory and gruesome details.)

-- Andrew