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Conference vmsnet::car$note:carbuffs

Title:Carbuffs
Moderator:DASXPS::NASEAM::READIO
Created:Tue Dec 13 1988
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:632
Total number of notes:88145

229.0. "The official GM V6 note" by CIMNET::VAUGHN () Fri Aug 11 1989 14:26

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229.1good books?CIMNET::VAUGHNFri Aug 11 1989 14:317
229.2updateCIMNET::VAUGHNTue Oct 24 1989 15:4636
229.3Poor running Chevy V6.TYCOBB::C_DENOPOULOSNo more Mr. Nice guy!Tue Nov 07 1989 15:4824
229.4No ideas??HYEND::C_DENOPOULOSNo more Mr. Nice guy!Thu Nov 30 1989 13:503
229.5CAMRY::DCOXThu Nov 30 1989 14:0325
229.6Where I'd start looking...MILKWY::HHARDMANI'd rather be in Colorado!Thu Nov 30 1989 14:137
229.7I've done all but one.HYEND::C_DENOPOULOSNo more Mr. Nice guy!Thu Nov 30 1989 14:5410
229.8Dry gas vs Water elliminatorHYEND::C_DENOPOULOSNo more Mr. Nice guy!Tue Dec 05 1989 17:559
229.9SERPNT::SONTAKKEVikas SontakkeWed Dec 06 1989 11:456
229.10Early 80's problemLEDS::COHENSome limitations may apply...Wed Dec 06 1989 12:2210
229.11No vacuum.HYEND::C_DENOPOULOSNo more Mr. Nice guy!Sat Dec 09 1989 20:4610
229.12I found something.HYEND::C_DENOPOULOSNo more Mr. Nice guy!Tue Dec 12 1989 12:2739
229.13SERPNT::SONTAKKEVikas SontakkeWed Dec 13 1989 11:354
229.14OH!! So THAT'S it!!HYEND::C_DENOPOULOSI have Chronic LyripsychosisThu Jan 04 1990 16:2815
229.15GM V6 owners READ THISLUGGER::MILLSFri Apr 06 1990 04:0420
229.16As soon as I can afford it, the car's history.....SASE::SZABOFri Apr 06 1990 16:335
229.17I ain't kiddin' - 4 gallons!!!KAOA01::GILESFri Apr 06 1990 17:4711
229.18HYDRA::CARLSONDave CarlsonFri Apr 06 1990 18:057
229.19another thirsty 2.8 V6AQUA::DORMITZERPaul DormitzerFri Apr 06 1990 18:257
229.20SASE::SZABOFri Apr 06 1990 18:454
229.21KAOA01::GILESFri Apr 06 1990 18:5813
229.22I couldn't see water in oilLUGGER::MILLSFri Apr 06 1990 21:3519
229.23I need opinions badlyLUGGER::MILLSSat Apr 07 1990 00:3810
229.24KAOO01::GILESMon Apr 09 1990 14:0713
229.25Known V-6 problemMVDS01::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksMon Apr 09 1990 15:228
229.26"My 2.8 V6 head gasket failed" is lots different from "Any V6 ever made by GM stinks!"RDF::GUNNERSONMon Apr 09 1990 16:0211
229.27It's going down hill fastLUGGER::MILLSMon Apr 09 1990 16:4228
229.28hoo-hoo-ha-ha-ha-haaaaa!!!KAOO01::GILESMon Apr 09 1990 18:033
229.29It's the QUALITY that I likeLEDS::COHENLook! I've changed my P.N.Mon Apr 09 1990 18:101
229.30RTNBRV::PICKARDEr... Yes, its got finsMon Apr 09 1990 18:206
229.31All cars have problemsLUGGER::MILLSTue Apr 10 1990 19:599
229.32Complex job to change instake gasketLUGGER::MILLSTue Apr 10 1990 20:078
229.33ALLVAX::DIAMONDNo brag, Just fact.Tue Apr 10 1990 21:009
229.34How do you get the new one on?LEDS::COHENLook! I've changed my P.N.Wed Apr 11 1990 13:562
229.35Ouch, cut the NEW gasket?LUGGER::MILLSWed Apr 11 1990 15:104
229.36ALLVAX::DIAMONDNo brag, Just fact.Wed Apr 11 1990 15:398
229.37STEREO::BEAUDETWe'll leave the light on for ya..Wed Apr 11 1990 21:103
229.38excuse us Mr. PerfectKAOA01::GILESThu Apr 12 1990 14:024
229.39I was getting worried about the cutLUGGER::MILLSThu Apr 12 1990 16:224
229.40ALLVAX::DIAMONDNo brag, Just fact.Thu Apr 12 1990 17:005
229.41or something like that!KAOO01::GILESThu Apr 12 1990 19:1524
229.42I think this makes senseLUGGER::MILLSFri Apr 13 1990 00:019
229.43KAOA01::GILESTue Apr 17 1990 13:0510
229.44Noted a Failure Trend Based on Empirical DataBTOVT::MELLOR_DOpen the scu bay door, HAL.Wed Apr 18 1990 04:57101
229.45engine groundHYEND::C_DENOPOULOSI'VEfallenASLEEPandIcan'tGETup!Tue Jul 03 1990 13:055
229.46Try the alternator bracketMVDS01::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksThu Jul 05 1990 14:083
229.47HYEND::C_DENOPOULOSI'VEfallenASLEEPandIcan'tGETup!Thu Jul 05 1990 15:493
229.48 I should hope notMVDS01::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksThu Jul 05 1990 18:0119
229.49It's there.HYEND::C_DENOPOULOSI'VEfallenASLEEPandIcan'tGETup!Thu Jul 05 1990 18:517
229.50Oil Pressure problemsDASXPS::TIMMONSI'm a Pepere!Fri Sep 07 1990 11:3032
229.51ADTSHR::ASCHNEIDERAndy Schneider - DTN 381-2475Fri Sep 07 1990 13:2813
229.52KOALA::DIAMONDNo brag, Just fact.Fri Sep 07 1990 14:0210
229.53Just a thought ...SITBUL::FYFEFri Sep 07 1990 14:4225
229.54DASXPS::TIMMONSI'm a Pepere!Fri Sep 07 1990 16:008
229.55Bypass hanging up?LEDS::LEWICKEIfItsWorthDoingItsWorthDoingToExcessFri Sep 07 1990 16:259
229.56KOALA::DIAMONDNo brag, Just fact.Fri Sep 07 1990 17:0414
229.57STROKR::DEHAHNFri Sep 07 1990 17:108
229.58A milder method of removing sludge?SASE::SZABOFri Sep 07 1990 17:169
229.59KOALA::DIAMONDNo brag, Just fact.Fri Sep 07 1990 17:3713
229.60SASE::SZABOFri Sep 07 1990 17:478
229.61Snake oil?SITBUL::FYFEFri Sep 07 1990 18:2826
229.62DASXPS::TIMMONSI'm a Pepere!Fri Sep 07 1990 18:2919
229.63The si/mple wayTROA02::DPURDIEFri Sep 07 1990 19:092
229.64It's not that simple ...SITBUL::FYFEFri Sep 07 1990 19:4712
229.65Hot is better?TROA02::DPURDIEFri Sep 07 1990 20:545
229.66KOALA::DIAMONDNo brag, Just fact.Mon Sep 10 1990 13:5510
229.67Only driven 2 miles to church by a little old lady - Danger!RAMBLR::MORONEYShhh... Mad Scientist at work...Mon Sep 10 1990 14:466
229.68Too cold or too hot leads to sludgeDECSIM::AQLNG::MAYERVermont dreamin'.....Thu Sep 27 1990 16:2821
229.69Heat risers cause sludgeLEDS::LEWICKEIfItsWorthDoingItsWorthDoingToExcessThu Sep 27 1990 18:298
229.70Aluminum, no, iron, yesACTION::AUGENSTEINFri Sep 28 1990 16:219
229.71Help me stop this noise!!HYEND::C_DENOPOULOSMen Are Pigs, And Proud Of It!Tue Oct 23 1990 15:007
229.72HYEND::C_DENOPOULOSMen Are Pigs, And Proud Of It!Mon Nov 05 1990 10:434
229.73HYEND::C_DENOPOULOSMen Are Pigs, And Proud Of It!Mon Nov 05 1990 15:093
229.74Hard waking up.HYEND::C_DENOPOULOSMen Are Pigs, And Proud Of It!Mon Jan 07 1991 12:155
229.75My TR7 ran on three like this39403::GUNNERSONMon Jan 07 1991 14:173
229.76PAXVAX::SONTAKKEMon Jan 07 1991 14:387
229.77Probably something a lot simpler, but this is a possibility not to be ignored39403::GUNNERSONMon Jan 07 1991 17:1726
229.78$$$$$$$$$$$HYEND::C_DENOPOULOSMen Are Pigs, And Proud Of It!Tue Jan 08 1991 11:0922
229.79Looks like you have some symptoms, worth checking out39403::GUNNERSONTue Jan 08 1991 14:2824
229.80exitLEDS::LEWICKEIfItsWorthDoingItsWorthDoingToExcessWed Jan 09 1991 13:233
229.81HYEND::C_DENOPOULOSMen Are Pigs, And Proud Of It!Thu Jan 17 1991 14:4721
229.82May be a thermal vacuum switch inbetweenTROA02::DPURDIEThu Jan 17 1991 15:004
229.83More diagnosis helpLEDS::LEWICKEIfItsWorthDoingItsWorthDoingToExcessThu Jan 17 1991 15:0410
229.84HYEND::C_DENOPOULOSFantasy man!!Tue Mar 26 1991 14:3513
229.85Tips to make it easierTROA01::DPURDIETue Mar 26 1991 16:324
229.86HYEND::C_DENOPOULOSFantasy man!!Tue Mar 26 1991 16:478
229.87Censor the audioTROA01::DPURDIETue Mar 26 1991 17:004
229.88HYEND::C_DENOPOULOSFantasy man!!Tue Mar 26 1991 17:4410
229.89CHEVY 4.3LDELNI::HYDEThu Aug 29 1991 12:4414
229.90see GENRAL::4WDAKOCOA::SELIGThu Aug 29 1991 15:336
229.91chock/carb question on linkageAURORA::GOSSELINMon Sep 09 1991 10:435
229.92Oil in airfilterICS::SOTTILEOAKLEYTue Oct 29 1991 09:338
229.93It usually the PCV systemTROOA::DPURDIETue Oct 29 1991 11:161
229.94Clogged PCV hose ...SSPENG::FYFENever tell a dragon your real name!Tue Oct 29 1991 11:361
229.95WMOIS::BOUDREAU_CTue Oct 29 1991 21:021
229.96ICS::SOTTILEOAKLEYWed Oct 30 1991 09:179
229.97BGTWIN::dehahnEvolution is an unproven theoryWed Oct 30 1991 09:317
229.98ICS::SOTTILEOAKLEYThu Oct 31 1991 14:3510
229.99ICS::SOTTILEOAKLEYTue Nov 12 1991 15:005
229.100Getting the old one out is the hard partLEDS::LEWICKEMy other vehicle is a CaterpillarTue Nov 12 1991 15:2316
229.101Bearing not seal?TSGDEV::WAITEThings are fine in Mt. Idy she goes onTue Nov 12 1991 15:363
229.102Popping 4.3L V6WMOIS::CORMIER_PLife is Better on a ShovelheadWed Jan 15 1992 16:3631
229.103POSSUM::DIAMONDNo brag, Just fact.Wed Jan 15 1992 16:569
229.104Does it have an air pumpTROOA::DPURDIEWed Jan 15 1992 17:034
229.105WMOIS::CORMIER_PLife is Better on a ShovelheadThu Jan 16 1992 08:589
229.106Didn't know which GM note to place this inMOLAR2::BALSAMOThe Rock that is higher than IFri Apr 24 1992 17:0424
229.107Distinctive? Ha ha ha ha ha MVDS02::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksFri Apr 24 1992 18:2410
229.108They stopped making real Cutlasses years agoWMOIS::CORMIER_PLife is Better on a ShovelheadTue May 12 1992 11:526
229.109MSDOA::BEAZLEYTue May 12 1992 13:384
229.110WMOIS::CORMIER_PLife is Better on a ShovelheadTue May 12 1992 18:407
229.111Side tangent...but still a GM V6WFOV11::KOEHLERWilliston Fla.=Party Time!!5/24Wed May 13 1992 12:196
229.112350cid 6's tooTUNER::BEAUDETTom BeaudetMon May 18 1992 13:106
229.113V/12=2xV6MR4DEC::DCADMUShappiness is a bigger boatFri May 22 1992 18:284
229.114good motorGHOST1::BOYERWatch me pull a Rabbit out of my HatMon Jun 08 1992 20:2612
229.115Summertime oil - what weight is great ???WMOIS::CORMIER_PLife is Better on a ShovelheadTue Jun 30 1992 16:1519
229.116They don't care if your engine is shot at 100KLEDS::LEWICKELibertarian, US Congress 2nd NH districtTue Jun 30 1992 16:196
229.117KOALA::DIAMONDNo brag, Just fact.Tue Jun 30 1992 16:216
229.118Whose engine is it anyway?LEDS::LEWICKELibertarian, US Congress 2nd NH districtTue Jun 30 1992 17:205
229.119buffers come through again....WMOIS::CORMIER_PLife is Better on a ShovelheadTue Jun 30 1992 18:0125
229.120'87?OASS::BURDEN_D'24 Stude - The only way to TourTue Jun 30 1992 18:2011
229.12110w-40 not allowed!?SWAM2::KLINE_STTue Jun 30 1992 22:548
229.122It's better, but still not enough!HSOMAI::HARDMANLife's too short to drive a HondaWed Jul 01 1992 02:247
229.123Again, thanks for the inputs.....WMOIS::CORMIER_PLife is Better on a ShovelheadWed Jul 01 1992 11:0210
229.124KOALA::DIAMONDNo brag, Just fact.Wed Jul 01 1992 12:2311
229.125BULEAN::MAHLERDECnet for OpenVMS AlphaWed Jul 01 1992 13:058
229.126Tempest in a teapotSANTEE::AUGENSTEINWed Jul 01 1992 13:4128
229.127BULEAN::MAHLERDECnet for OpenVMS AlphaWed Jul 01 1992 13:468
229.128How so?SANTEE::AUGENSTEINWed Jul 01 1992 14:036
229.130SALEM::DODADave > DanWed Jul 01 1992 14:1417
229.131BUSY::SLABOUNTYI want a yacht, bought by youWed Jul 01 1992 14:438
229.132BULEAN::MAHLERDECnet for OpenVMS AlphaWed Jul 01 1992 15:4250
229.133Oh, that's easy..!KAHALA::PRESTONMon Jul 06 1992 14:5327
229.134WORN CAM LOBES CAUSE POPPING BACK THROUGH CARB?BUFFER::KEEFEJACK KEEFE, TSG Lab Mgr, 3-4521Tue Nov 17 1992 20:5566
229.135STROKR::dehahnninety eight don't be lateWed Nov 18 1992 16:544
229.136nothing newVLNVAX::BROCKELMANthe brockTue Nov 24 1992 18:078
229.137Anyone got a ~86 front drive 2.8 near SHR?LEDS::LEWICKEBosnia, Waco, what's the difference????Wed Aug 18 1993 12:5517
229.138Popping 2.8 V6POLAR::ROBINSONPChrome Sweet ChromeTue Aug 24 1993 15:1635
229.139Maybe pushrod, still looking for one to copyLEDS::LEWICKEBosnia, Waco, what's the difference????Tue Aug 24 1993 15:5812
229.141I think I already have that one.LEDS::LEWICKEBosnia, Waco, what's the difference????Wed Aug 25 1993 14:4011
229.142VMSNET::M_MACIOLEKFour54 Camaro/Only way to flyThu Aug 26 1993 02:0718
229.143Carbon Carbon everywhere...POLAR::ROBINSONPChrome Sweet ChromeThu Aug 26 1993 12:4630
229.144WAGVMSNET::M_MACIOLEKFour54 Camaro/Only way to flyThu Aug 26 1993 14:5818
229.145Next Step. Read the plugs.VMSNET::M_MACIOLEKFour54 Camaro/Only way to flyThu Aug 26 1993 15:0311
229.146Could be a 'popping' ...LUDWIG::YACINOThu Aug 26 1993 16:214
229.147replace the rocker and keep lookingLEDS::LEWICKEBosnia, Waco, what's the difference????Thu Aug 26 1993 16:5716
229.148Back together tonite, I'll push on the valves tooPOLAR::ROBINSONPChrome Sweet ChromeThu Aug 26 1993 17:1122
229.149A Quick UpdatePOLAR::ROBINSONPChrome Sweet ChromeMon Aug 30 1993 11:5011
229.150SNKERZ::SOTTILEGet on Your Bikes and RideTue Aug 31 1993 17:3512
229.151Wish I had the VortekPOLAR::ROBINSONPChrome Sweet ChromeTue Aug 31 1993 18:529
229.152SNKERZ::SOTTILEGet on Your Bikes and RideTue Aug 31 1993 19:009
229.153The verdict is inPOLAR::ROBINSONPChrome Sweet ChromeTue Sep 07 1993 20:0613
229.154Installation hints for FWD mid size18583::LEWICKESerfs don't own assault weaponsMon Nov 22 1993 14:1215
229.155It's still a p.i.a.ALLVAX::DUNTONFrankly my dear.....Tue Nov 23 1993 12:149
229.156Nah, I'd never do thatLEDS::LEWICKESerfs don't own assault weaponsTue Nov 23 1993 13:1516
229.157been thereWRKSYS::CARLSONDaveWed Nov 24 1993 10:4817
229.158Strong like CatLEDS::LEWICKESerfs don't own assault weaponsWed Nov 24 1993 11:555
229.159How long til the bumper hits thoughWRKSYS::CARLSONDaveWed Nov 24 1993 13:3812
229.16087 celebrity acting up ... stallingYEOLD::PROVENCALWed Jan 05 1994 11:4721
229.161Two possibilities.LEDS::LEWICKESerfs don't own assault weaponsWed Jan 05 1994 12:4211
229.162TARKIN::HARTWELLDave HartwellFri Jan 07 1994 16:378
229.16386 has electric carb.LEDS::LEWICKESerfs don't own assault weaponsFri Jan 07 1994 16:4410
229.164TARKIN::HARTWELLDave HartwellMon Jan 10 1994 15:506
229.165I have an 87 2.8l V6 with TBI DANGER::DORMITZERPaul DormitzerMon Jan 10 1994 17:455
229.166TARKIN::HARTWELLDave HartwellTue Jan 11 1994 10:299
229.167Who's wrong?COMET::RENVILLEThu Jan 20 1994 03:573
229.168Did you buy it new or used?SRFCLB::FYFENever tell a dragon your real name.Thu Jan 20 1994 10:089
229.169Maybe an 86?COMET::RENVILLEThu Jan 20 1994 21:408
229.170thanks for the help .. it's fixed, I thinkYEOLD::PROVENCALTue Jan 25 1994 16:0310
229.171TARKIN::HARTWELLDave HartwellTue Jan 25 1994 18:4113
229.172Help with 231 V6SMURF::CASAGRANDEThu Oct 20 1994 20:3521
229.173KAOFS::B_VANVALKENBFri Oct 21 1994 10:1013
229.174Yep, computer controlled carb.SMURF::CASAGRANDEFri Oct 21 1994 11:4712
229.175Check TPSLPGA::CARLSONDaveMon Oct 24 1994 13:3012
229.176ECM fixed it... and its easy.SMURF::CASAGRANDEWed Oct 26 1994 16:588
229.1774.3 rapping when coldNQOPS::RALPHWed Feb 08 1995 09:1220
229.178hydraulic lifter bleeding down?TEKVAX::KOPECwe're gonna need another Timmy!Wed Feb 08 1995 10:021
229.1794.3. rapping when coldDELNI::LANDYWed Feb 08 1995 14:5714
229.180chev says live with itNQOPS::RALPHThu Feb 09 1995 01:4013
229.181What about the 3.1 ?LPGA::CARLSONDaveWed Mar 29 1995 16:3112
229.182BUSY::SLABOUNTYTrouble with a capital 'T'Wed Mar 29 1995 16:416
229.183I've been impressed with mineDPDMAI::HARDMANSucker for what the cowgirls do...Thu Mar 30 1995 00:099
229.184Thanks guysLPGA::CARLSONDaveThu Mar 30 1995 11:3622
229.185oil guage readingMROA::DSULLIVANFri Apr 07 1995 14:028
229.186filter fixed it!MROA::DSULLIVANMon Apr 10 1995 14:347
229.187Buick V6 stalling...02 sensor?ABACUS::SCHMELZERTue Jun 13 1995 12:5030
229.188Remove the gascap and see if it starts right up againNASEAM::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksTue Jun 13 1995 13:482
229.189Don't swap parts are random!DPDMAI::HARDMANSucker for what the cowgirls do...Tue Jun 13 1995 15:0012
229.190swap parts? you have to find em' firstABACUS::SCHMELZERTue Jun 13 1995 18:1614
229.191still a bit more investigation neededNASEAM::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksTue Jun 13 1995 18:228
229.192Trace and CUT the vent line! %)ABACUS::SCHMELZERTue Jun 13 1995 18:3911
229.193HPCGRP::BURTONDIGITAL INTERNAL USE ONLYTue Jun 13 1995 18:434
229.194ABACUS::SCHMELZERWed Jun 14 1995 12:3125
229.195my guess is a vaccum hose is diconnectedHPCGRP::BURTONDIGITAL INTERNAL USE ONLYWed Jun 14 1995 13:5111
229.196Fuel pump -- probably IN the fuel tank, tooNASEAM::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksWed Jun 14 1995 14:137
229.197Why stall?NOVA::MTAYLORNot powered by Zima(tm)Wed Jun 14 1995 15:1650
229.198Check for spark ...BRITE::FYFEWed Jun 14 1995 15:1820
229.199It's called an inductive timing light :-)BRITE::FYFEWed Jun 14 1995 15:225
229.200I hope it doesn't rain tonightABACUS::SCHMELZERWed Jun 14 1995 18:4220
229.201My favorite tool...a BFH!ABACUS::SCHMELZERThu Jun 15 1995 13:5118
229.202Crank sensor mabey???WMOIS::MALLETTE_PThu Jun 15 1995 15:2811
229.203ABACUS::SCHMELZERMon Jun 19 1995 12:2910
229.20485 4.3l V6CSC32::J_SHUMWAYFri Sep 01 1995 13:218
229.205Valve Guide SeatsMKOTS3::HARMANFri Sep 01 1995 14:5010
229.206valve guide seatsCSC32::J_SHUMWAYFri Sep 01 1995 16:092
229.207Valve seal. Oil is leaking into the comb chamberVMSNET::M_MACIOLEKFour54 Camaro/Only way to flyFri Sep 01 1995 18:035
229.2081987 S10 2.8V6 with 185K needs a rear main seal ...BRITE::FYFEUse it up, wear it out, make it do, or do without.Mon Oct 28 1996 12:5146
229.209Keep the starter cleanVMSNET::M_MACIOLEKFour54 Camaro/Only way to flyMon Oct 28 1996 13:2517
229.210BUSY::SLABSubtract LAB, add TUD, invert nothingMon Oct 28 1996 13:568
229.211Crud magnetVMSNET::M_MACIOLEKFour54 Camaro/Only way to flyMon Oct 28 1996 14:327
229.212BRITE::FYFEUse it up, wear it out, make it do, or do without.Mon Oct 28 1996 15:5126
229.213$$$$$$$$$$$CSLALL::NASEAM::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksMon Oct 28 1996 15:5315
229.214BUSY::SLABSubtract LAB, add TUD, invert nothingMon Oct 28 1996 16:0613
229.215Wobble, not end playCSLALL::NASEAM::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksMon Oct 28 1996 16:1021
229.216BRITE::FYFEUse it up, wear it out, make it do, or do without.Mon Oct 28 1996 19:3412
229.217BRITE::FYFEUse it up, wear it out, make it do, or do without.Mon Oct 28 1996 19:369
229.218easier...AIMTEC::STDBKR::Burden_dKeep Cool with CoolidgeMon Oct 28 1996 21:233
229.219FABSIX::J_SADINFreedom isn't free.Tue Oct 29 1996 11:237