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Conference vmsnet::car$note:carbuffs

Title:Carbuffs
Moderator:DASXPS::NASEAM::READIO
Created:Tue Dec 13 1988
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:632
Total number of notes:88145

362.0. "Steering Questions - Worm, Rack, Recirc. ball" by ACCARS::ALDRICH () Sun Jul 16 1989 17:08

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362.1GM quick ratio problem, movedVAX4::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksWed Sep 13 1989 20:1629
362.2MORE THAN TILTGIAMEM::BURBINEMon Sep 18 1989 19:3911
362.3Truly an 'exploded' view! :-)ANT::HHARDMANMusic is the doctor!Mon Sep 18 1989 20:0612
362.4Wheels have a mind of their ownCADSE::MCCARTHYI have never calculated the odds sir.Thu Sep 21 1989 09:4320
362.5Shocks.TEKVAX::KOPECI'm not.Thu Sep 21 1989 11:043
362.6infoLEDS::COHENSome limitations may apply...Thu Sep 21 1989 12:101
362.7Lots of wear points in a steering systemANT::HHARDMANMusic is the doctor!Thu Sep 21 1989 13:178
362.9more info/answersCADSE::MCCARTHYI have never calculated the odds sir.Thu Sep 21 1989 21:1713
362.10Maybe the other end of the truck?LEDS::LEWICKEThu Sep 21 1989 22:3111
362.11rear end...CADSE::MCCARTHYI have never calculated the odds sir.Thu Sep 21 1989 23:492
362.12IMHO, of course..TEKVAX::KOPECI'm not.Fri Sep 22 1989 11:1915
362.13Steering cable?TALLIS::GOYKHMANNostalgia ain't what it used to beFri Oct 13 1989 14:4810
362.14R & P shot after 20K milesGRANPA::RPHILLIPSTue Feb 27 1990 16:5432
362.15Dodge from hell..hahahahaMSESU::HOPKINSLOVE is all you needTue Feb 27 1990 17:148
362.16take the p/s belt off ?ULTRA::FERGUSONIrie MonThu Mar 22 1990 00:136
362.17try this first!EUCLID::PAULHUSChris @ MLO6B-2/T13 dtn 223-6871Thu Mar 22 1990 13:126
362.18Would you use the brakes w/o power assist?MLCSSE::MILLERThu Mar 22 1990 15:3812
362.19GM P/S gear box leaking fluid from rear.ULTRA::FERGUSONIrie MonThu Mar 22 1990 20:3017
362.20SAGE::AUSTINTom @TTB/Nashua 'Grace, Space & Pace...'Thu Mar 22 1990 22:5611
362.21play adjustment for power steering?CHOVAX::ALPERTAgent of GoldsteinFri Mar 23 1990 10:299
362.22PreloadLEDS::COHENLook! I've changed my P.N.Fri Mar 23 1990 17:144
362.23CHOVAX::ALPERTAgent of GoldsteinFri Mar 23 1990 20:2719
362.24A horse is a horse, of course, of courseLEDS::COHENLook! I've changed my P.N.Sat Mar 24 1990 20:5311
362.25may be worth a shotKAOA01::GILESMon Mar 26 1990 12:5612
362.26Hard steering, sometimesCSSE32::THOMASTue May 01 1990 16:0215
362.27Hard to straighten out and oversteerHYEND::C_DENOPOULOSIs anybody out there?Tue May 01 1990 21:3011
362.28Serious trouble....SAGE::AUSTINTom @TTB/Nashua 'Grace, Space & Pace...'Sat May 05 1990 01:016
362.29Bad steering box.HYEND::C_DENOPOULOSIs anybody out there?Sat May 05 1990 17:266
362.30Problem with Rack and PinionDNEAST::MAHEU_BOBA Limited PartnerTue Jun 12 1990 15:0913
362.31GMC STEERING PROBLEMDASXPS::BRADSHAWFri Jun 15 1990 02:484
362.32TOOLS::TOOLS::ASCHNEIDERAndy Schneider - DTN 381-2475Fri Jun 15 1990 13:336
362.33Rack&Pinion -SuggestionMCIS2::SCHNEIDERMon Sep 17 1990 20:0025
362.34Not worth saving?LEDS::COHENThere's *ALWAYS* free Cheese in a Mousetrap!Mon Sep 17 1990 21:5437
362.35We don't need no steenking powerLEDS::LEWICKEIfItsWorthDoingItsWorthDoingToExcessTue Sep 18 1990 20:007
362.36PAXVAX::SONTAKKEWed Sep 19 1990 12:586
362.37thanx for infoMCIS2::SCHNEIDERThu Oct 11 1990 13:3416
362.38For free?LEDS::LEWICKEIfItsWorthDoingItsWorthDoingToExcessThu Oct 11 1990 13:475
362.39My Celebrity wagon- biggest disappointment in a car ever.SASE::SZABOThu Oct 11 1990 14:0310
362.40How do I check for wear?TINCUP::MFORBESThis Space Intentionally Left BlankFri Jan 18 1991 15:4013
362.41Front suspension examination, genericMVDS01::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksFri Jan 18 1991 16:2622
362.42Dodge van eats ball joints.PTOECA::MCELWEEOpponent of OppressionMon Jun 10 1991 04:0414
362.43A warrantee is only as good as the quality of the parts.MVDS01::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksMon Jun 10 1991 13:3412
362.44Steering makes ratcheting noiseRUMOR::STRONBERGFri Aug 02 1991 10:3922
362.45MILKWY::SLABOUNTYWould you like a McDolphin, sir?Fri Aug 02 1991 13:1114
362.46Yep only 17k milesSABELL::STRONBERGFri Aug 02 1991 15:0511
362.47Maybe apples/oranges, but...SYNCRO::BRYANTFri Aug 02 1991 15:265
362.48Off to the shop....SABELL::STRONBERGFri Aug 02 1991 16:407
362.49And the answer is.....SABELL::STRONBERGFri Aug 23 1991 14:538
362.50Seeking advice to R&R an inner tie rod...SASE::SZABOWed Sep 04 1991 11:4119
362.51Steering Union Disk replacement ...RAVEN1::JERRYWHITELife's short ... note smart !Wed Oct 30 1991 09:408
362.52Probably have to loosen the column a bitMVDS02::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksWed Oct 30 1991 12:3014
362.53RAVEN1::JERRYWHITELife's short ... note smart !Wed Oct 30 1991 13:2613
362.54less than 9K miles on ball joints? Advice pls.CSTEAM::FARLEYSon,you can make hundreds o'dollars...Wed Mar 11 1992 23:4446
362.55modem burp = missing lines from .54CSTEAM::FARLEYSon,you can make hundreds o'dollars...Wed Mar 11 1992 23:488
362.56BUSY::SLABOUNTYHereComesTrouble&ItLooksLikeFunThu Mar 12 1992 08:387
362.57I drive an 1988 S10 Blazer 4x4TIMBER::WHEELERThu Mar 12 1992 09:0016
362.58commentCSTEAM::FARLEYSon,you can make hundreds o'dollars...Thu Mar 12 1992 10:0211
362.59get a second opinion!SOLVIT::BUCZYNSKIThu Mar 12 1992 10:3814
362.60I love a BJ as much as the next guyLEDS::COHENWhat do I drive? a Taylor-Made!Fri Mar 13 1992 15:0011
362.614X4 is a different animal ...SSPENG::FYFEI'm to short to be tallFri Mar 13 1992 15:0518
362.62tie-rods, relay rod, pitman shaft seal.ULTRA::FERGUSONToo much Magic BusThu Mar 26 1992 17:188
362.63ULTRA::FERGUSONToo much Magic BusThu Mar 26 1992 17:266
362.64any front end shop can align to N.E. pothole specsMVDS02::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksThu Mar 26 1992 17:336
362.65ESKIMO::RINELLATue Apr 21 1992 12:4714
362.66huh?COMET::LEWISJjimTue Apr 21 1992 13:376
362.67HYEND::C_DENOPOULOSParking Lot Flyer!!Tue Apr 21 1992 13:484
362.68KINGPINS maybe?MVDS02::SHAWStepford's not in Mass, right?Tue Apr 21 1992 14:158
362.69Choke-Ckoke!18698::KOEHLERCanada next week/WPB Fla. 2wk later!Tue Apr 21 1992 15:387
362.70Could be tryin' to put one over...ASDG::SBILLWed Apr 22 1992 15:125
362.71ESKIMO::RINELLAWed Apr 22 1992 15:2814
362.72Collective minds.........:-)WFOV12::KOEHLERCanada next week/WPB Fla. 2wk later!Wed Apr 22 1992 17:493
362.73not sure what year though..'82/3?BTOVT::BROWN_JDrink up Chuck & DiThu Apr 23 1992 08:406
362.74MVDS02::SHAWStepford's not in Mass, right?Thu Apr 23 1992 12:257
362.75Labor intensive to remove frozen kingpinsMVDS02::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksThu Apr 23 1992 12:306
362.76Repaired today I hope!ESKIMO::RINELLAThu Apr 23 1992 13:527
362.77More on king pinsMVDS02::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksThu Apr 23 1992 16:2930
362.78I see said the Blind Man!ESKIMO::RINELLAThu Apr 23 1992 17:464
362.79Strong and cheapTSGDEV::WAITEFGATE Support - DTN 223-9367Thu Apr 23 1992 19:579
362.80KP in 74 ?DEMING::HAWKEFri Apr 24 1992 16:495
362.81I know where I'll be this Saturday.CIMNET::WOJDAKU got lotsa peperoni in your breadThu May 14 1992 10:579
362.82No ProblemoLEDS::COHENWhat do I drive? a Taylor-Made!Thu May 14 1992 12:185
362.83or too much fluid on FordsBTOVT::BROWN_JDrink up Chuck & DiThu May 14 1992 14:231
362.84Smoking steering column :(CSCMA::BALICHThu May 21 1992 11:2121
362.85From Hot Exhaust Manifold?COMET::BARRIANOchoke me in the shallow water...Thu May 21 1992 12:0217
362.86Smoking steering column IN carCSCMA::BALICHThu May 21 1992 13:0611
362.87CSCMA::BALICHThu May 21 1992 13:075
362.88Ignition Switch?COMET::BARRIANOchoke me in the shallow water...Thu May 21 1992 14:0216
362.89CSCMA::BALICHThu May 21 1992 15:234
362.90TLE::LEGERLOTZAlan Legerlotz: Repository EngineeringThu May 21 1992 16:173
362.91Its where you put the Key :-)COMET::BARRIANOchoke me in the shallow water...Thu May 21 1992 16:2016
362.92HYEND::C_DENOPOULOSWHO.....MADE.....YOU!!!Thu May 21 1992 19:2810
362.93DPDMAI::FEINSMITHPolitically Incorrect And Proud Of ItFri May 22 1992 14:056
362.94Parts locationsMVDS02::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksFri May 22 1992 16:5225
362.95Questions on faulty PS systemNOVA::FEENANJay Feenan Rdb/xxx EngineeringTue Aug 04 1992 14:4546
362.96Brakes & Steering, not worth taking chances withLEDS::COHENWhat do I drive? a Taylor-Made!Mon Aug 10 1992 11:5057
362.97<<<BADDDDD RACK>>>SWAM2::KLINE_STFri Aug 28 1992 22:035
362.98LABC::RUFri Jan 29 1993 21:2510
362.99Steering Rack HYEND::T_HOLLANDDV8!Mon Feb 01 1993 10:4127
362.100REPLACE IT YOURSELF WITH REBUILTSWAM2::KLINE_STMon Feb 01 1993 20:056
362.101Momentary Steering LockupFSOA::PRINDLESend Lawyers, Guns, Money, and SOFTWARETue Feb 02 1993 16:3827
362.102Simple possibility?LEDS::LEWICKEIf it ain't broke, don't buy it.Tue Feb 02 1993 16:417
362.103Had problem before thenFSOA::PRINDLESend Lawyers, Guns, Money, and SOFTWARETue Feb 02 1993 16:5410
362.104Check the accessory belt firstWILBRY::ASCHNEIDERAndy Schneider - DTN 264-5515Tue Feb 02 1993 18:2920
362.105I will try the beltFSOA::PRINDLESend Lawyers, Guns, Money, and SOFTWARETue Feb 02 1993 18:4315
362.106a little rust does wondersWMOIS::BARRON_DWed Feb 03 1993 09:475
362.108ASDS::MILLERWed Feb 03 1993 14:107
362.109A bit more infoFSOA::PRINDLESend Lawyers, Guns, Money, and SOFTWAREWed Feb 03 1993 17:0016
362.110Rack!HYEND::T_HOLLANDDV8!Thu Feb 04 1993 11:269
362.111No luck with unweighted front endFSOA::PRINDLESend Lawyers, Guns, Money, and SOFTWAREThu Feb 04 1993 11:3310
362.112LABC::RUWed Feb 17 1993 21:459
362.113Perfect description of the symptomUSHS01::HARDMANBill fooled you, America! :-(Thu Feb 18 1993 10:1511
362.114squeaky steeringTLE::COLLIS::JACKSONShoot that starMon Mar 01 1993 11:448
362.115loose beltJURAN::HAWKEMon Mar 01 1993 14:016
362.116ASDS::MILLERMon Mar 01 1993 14:0910
362.117Should we take you literally??BROKE::TAYLORThe tie goes to the 18-wheelerMon Mar 01 1993 18:336
362.118Worn Steering Rack?DATABS::FERWERDADisplaced BeirutiTue Mar 02 1993 13:5121
362.119leaking PS pumpHYEND::T_HOLLANDDV8!Mon Mar 15 1993 18:3329
362.120ZENDIA::FERGUSONI got ramblin' on my mindTue Mar 16 1993 11:0328
362.12177 PS issueHYEND::T_HOLLANDDV8!Tue Mar 16 1993 13:3515
362.122HIntLEDS::LEWICKEIf it ain't broke, don't buy it.Tue Mar 16 1993 14:149
362.123Will try this -.1HYEND::T_HOLLANDDV8!Tue Mar 16 1993 14:197
362.124Where did all that fluid go?LANDO::LYONSWed Mar 31 1993 16:5023
362.125AirMSBNET::KELTZLet those who Ride Decide!Wed Mar 31 1993 16:525
362.126PS Pump pulley removal questionHYEND::T_HOLLANDJohnny LongtorsoThu May 06 1993 11:2930
362.127have it pulled offWILBRY::ASCHNEIDERAndy Schneider - DTN 264-5515Thu May 06 1993 12:127
362.128STROKR::dehahnninety eight...don't be lateThu May 06 1993 14:137
362.129A puller is neededSTRATA::YACINOThu May 06 1993 15:355
362.130Pulley removalHYEND::T_HOLLANDJohnny LongtorsoThu May 06 1993 15:5018
362.131The long and the short of pulley pulling.BROKE::TAYLORJust hang up the phone and drive!Thu May 06 1993 17:3130
362.132STROKR::dehahnninety eight...don't be lateThu May 06 1993 19:3616
362.133Pump is installed!HYEND::T_HOLLANDJohnny LongtorsoFri May 07 1993 11:1427
362.134Steering Rack/Tie rod joint problemKEPNUT::HOLLANDDeep 13Tue Oct 05 1993 12:2720
362.135Don't ask me how to get it out!BROKE::TAYLORSchool's open and traffic chompsTue Oct 05 1993 13:005
362.136Std tie rod end joint?KEPNUT::HOLLANDDeep 13Tue Oct 05 1993 15:4911
362.137Bad News!!!KEPNUT::HOLLANDDeep 13Tue Oct 05 1993 22:5918
362.138LEDS::LEWICKESerfs don't own assault weaponsWed Oct 06 1993 12:544
362.139CAPNET::GMILLERWed Oct 06 1993 17:408
362.141C Series Racks seem to be different!KEPNUT::HOLLANDDeep 13Wed Oct 06 1993 22:0726
362.143Can pump bearings be replaced separately?CADSYS::SHEPARDOverwhelmed by trivialitiesThu Oct 28 1993 21:0010
362.144Whinong is usually caused by air in the system.HOWLIN::NPAREFri Oct 29 1993 11:1810
362.145What really happens18583::LEWICKESerfs don't own assault weaponsMon Nov 22 1993 14:2110
362.146QUARK::LIONELFree advice is worth every centMon Nov 22 1993 15:157
362.147LEFTY::CWILLIAMSCD or not CD, that's the questionMon Nov 22 1993 19:2812
362.148QUARK::LIONELFree advice is worth every centMon Nov 22 1993 20:053
362.149I hear it's the spool valve that goes..TEKVAX::KOPECpersistent objectTue Nov 23 1993 10:0019
362.150mechanic's shrugg, they all do that, lady what's your problem?HELIX::SONTAKKETue Nov 23 1993 10:517
362.151Seal problemKEPNUT::HOLLANDJoel's Gone!!Mon Nov 29 1993 21:0811
362.152What to do?HPCGRP::BURTONDIGITAL INTERNAL USE ONLYTue Oct 31 1995 18:2812
362.153Dealership or private garage?CSLALL::SREADIOTue Oct 31 1995 18:372
362.154or get it locallyCSLALL::SREADIOTue Oct 31 1995 18:381
362.155PS whiningUSDEV::BWHITEMon Oct 21 1996 15:098
362.155SOLVIT::ALLEN_Ron the pointSat Oct 26 1996 16:435
362.156Power steering imbalanceMSBCS::BROCKSon of a BeechMon Mar 17 1997 11:5427
    Could not find an appropriate existing entry, so...
    
    I have what appears to be a power steering problem:
    
    Symptoms:
    Vehicle=1983 volvo 240dl
    In straight and level driving, if the steering wheel is released, the
    car will begin a turn to the left. Sounds like alignment, right?
    Checked that - all is well. Then tried -very carefully on a selected
    portion of road, putting the car in neutral and turning off the engine.
    Car then tracks straight as an arrow.
    Then, put car up on jacks, started engine, wheels slowly turn full
    left.
    
    It would appear that whatever meters the fluid to the power assist
    hydraulics is putting out more pressure to one side than the other.
    Or.., the fluid is leaking past the seal on one side of the piston. 
    
    Question: Is there any way to determine whether the fault lies in the
    metering system or in the piston assembly (piston may not be the proper
    term, but I refer to the rod which is pushed out by the pressure of the
    fluid). Is this correctable, or done by replacing the meter and/or
    piston assembly?
    I would like to find a solution which does not exceed the cost of the
    vehicle.
    Or, I could just ask my son to continue to live with it. the problem is
    not terrible, just annoying.
362.157LEFTY::CWILLIAMSCD or not CD, that's the questionMon Mar 17 1997 12:3912
    This kind of thing is usually fixed by replacing the rack, which has
    all of the above parts in it. It's not something that I would let go -
    it's probably going to get worse. 
    
    You could probably buy a rebuild kit and do it yourself, but it's
    usually easier and quicker to get a rebuilt rack and swap it. Special
    tools are usually needed for the rebuild. I have no knowledge of the
    Volvo specifics here, though.
    
    Chris
    
     
362.158Simpler repair25421::FALKOFMon Mar 17 1997 15:445
    I had a '83 245 that showed similar symptoms. The local shops said to
    swap the rack. However, the dealer said it was a valve of some sort in
    the pwer steering system. After replacing it and getting a new
    alignment, everything was fine for another 100k. Total cost for all was
    under 125 about 10 years ago.
362.159Different Car...same problem.CHIPS::LEIBRANDTMon Mar 17 1997 17:247
    
    I had the same symptoms on an older (76) Chrysler. There was an
    adjustment ( a valve on the power steering pump if memory serves) that
    fixed the problem. Might not apply to Volvos, but thought it was worth
    mentioning.
    
    /Charlie
362.160ZEKE::BURTONJim Burton, DTN 381-6470Mon Mar 17 1997 17:354
You can get a rebuilt rack for $229.  Why not go that route instead of pouring
money and time into the old one?

Jim
362.161...Cuz I'm cheapMSBCS::BROCKSon of a BeechMon Mar 17 1997 18:3811
    to -1
    Because $229, for just the rebuilt rack, equals about 35% of what we
    paid for the car over a year ago.
    But, since we chose this particular vehicle because of a belief that it
    probably had several more years in it, maybe 229 is worth it.
    
    Though I much prefer the answer in -2 of an adjustment, or in -3 of a
    valve for $100.
    
    thanks folks. The collective wisdom of this conference -all conferences
    - continues to amaze me.
362.162TEKVAX::KOPECConsider a spherical chicken; ..Mon Mar 17 1997 19:046
    the valve is what we used to call the "spool valve", though I don't
    know what it's called on these newfangled rack-and-payin systems.. it
    basically senses torque on the steering input shaft and directs the
    fluid to the correct side of the piston to help.
    
    ...tom