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Conference vmsnet::car$note:carbuffs

Title:Carbuffs
Moderator:DASXPS::NASEAM::READIO
Created:Tue Dec 13 1988
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:632
Total number of notes:88145

334.0. "Drum Brakes" by ACCARS::ALDRICH () Sun Jul 16 1989 16:52

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334.1Drum brake questionCLOSUS::HOESammy sit! Dad needs a breath!Mon Aug 21 1989 14:1328
334.2I am going to hate taking the drum offSERPNT::SONTAKKEVikas SontakkeTue Nov 07 1989 11:308
334.3I should have kept your home phone number handy :-)SERPNT::SONTAKKEVikas SontakkeMon Jan 08 1990 14:1724
334.4HPSTEK::BURTONFlexmaniacMon Jan 08 1990 14:448
334.5use persistence, then destroy it!MLCSSE::MILLERMon Jan 08 1990 15:1021
334.6Next time, I am going to assemble ALL tools BEFORE staringSERPNT::SONTAKKEVikas SontakkeMon Jan 08 1990 19:1016
334.7HPSTEK::BURTONFlexmaniacMon Jan 08 1990 19:2410
334.8MLCSSE::MILLERMon Jan 08 1990 20:0423
334.9SERPNT::SONTAKKEVikas SontakkeTue Jan 09 1990 13:556
334.10Grease or oil sealMLCSSE::MILLERTue Jan 09 1990 14:3617
334.11uneven pad wear, rear drums on 86 CenturyCALCCO::CONDOMon Feb 19 1990 18:2214
334.12Easy adjsutmentMLCSSE::MILLERTue Feb 20 1990 21:0425
334.13drums are easy to removePERN::CONDOWed Feb 21 1990 19:0115
334.14Warped drums are a waste of time.MED::D_SMITHThu Feb 22 1990 10:488
334.15MLCSSE::MILLERFri Feb 23 1990 16:3317
334.16Initial adjustment procedureMVDS01::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksFri Feb 23 1990 17:1910
334.17Do they make drum brakes without access plugs?SERPNT::SONTAKKEVikas SontakkeMon Feb 26 1990 13:566
334.18Pry out w/ small chisel and hammerMVDS01::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksMon Feb 26 1990 15:185
334.19ALLVAX::DIAMONDNo brag, Just fact.Mon Feb 26 1990 15:3211
334.20what did I do?SCCAT::BOUCHARDKen Bouchard WRO3-2Tue Mar 20 1990 23:5411
334.21a veritable avalanche of replies!SCCAT::BOUCHARDKen Bouchard WRO3-2Wed Mar 28 1990 20:584
334.22NSSG::FEINSMITHI'm the NRAFri Mar 30 1990 18:2310
334.23Can't stand the shakes...FSTTOO::DELLAROCCOFri Jun 08 1990 12:2814
334.24HPSTEK::BURTONHonda & Renault: #1&2 in '90 F1Fri Jun 08 1990 12:366
334.25Are they fully adjusted?MVDS01::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksFri Jun 08 1990 14:0413
334.26Special tool?TEKVAX::KOPECOrangutans are skepticalFri Jun 08 1990 14:1619
334.27A hammer and heat....works 99% of the timeWFOV12::KOEHLERI broke my own speed recordFri Jun 08 1990 14:384
334.28I've got the BIG bar....STEREO::BEAUDETWe'll leave the light on for ya..Fri Jun 08 1990 16:3214
334.29KOALA::DIAMONDNo brag, Just fact.Fri Jun 08 1990 17:0912
334.30so much rust, so little time...TEKVAX::KOPECOrangutans are skepticalFri Jun 08 1990 17:1914
334.31screw them off??GIAMEM::RIDGETrouble w/you is the trouble w/meFri Jun 08 1990 17:215
334.32Might need a hammerAUNTB::SCHMIDTWed Jun 13 1990 14:4229
334.33There's usually another alternative to pryingLEDS::COHENLook! I've changed my P.N.Thu Jun 14 1990 16:495
334.34what do I know?TEKVAX::KOPECOrangutans are skepticalThu Jun 14 1990 16:5612
334.35Causes for excessive pedal travelPAXVAX::SONTAKKEFri Aug 10 1990 12:5818
334.36A star wheel is bornTROA02::DPURDIEFri Aug 10 1990 13:244
334.3710 minute check will tell the storySITBUL::FYFEFri Aug 10 1990 15:159
334.38Just curious about brake shoe placementJARETH::YAHWHO::PETROVICLooking for a simpler place & time...Thu Aug 23 1990 17:194
334.39Because...LEDDEV::LINDA 13 second time slip? Now I have one!Thu Aug 23 1990 17:286
334.40But why?PAXVAX::SONTAKKEThu Aug 23 1990 19:101
334.41because....MVDS01::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksThu Aug 23 1990 20:0520
334.42Amazing use of available force..TEKVAX::KOPECOrangutans are skepticalThu Aug 23 1990 23:2810
334.43PAXVAX::SONTAKKEFri Aug 24 1990 12:4713
334.44JARETH::YAHWHO::PETROVICLooking for a simpler place & time...Fri Aug 24 1990 13:507
334.45wrong comparisonMVDS01::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksFri Aug 24 1990 14:5625
334.46Two is better than one?CSSE::WAITEFri Aug 24 1990 16:206
334.47Sure, rub it in :-)MVDS01::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksFri Aug 24 1990 17:0019
334.48Intermittent rear drum brake lockupSASE::SZABOFri Sep 14 1990 16:0134
334.49A non-trivial brake problemTARKIN::HARTWELLDave HartwellThu Jan 24 1991 20:4041
334.50TARKIN::HARTWELLDave HartwellThu Jan 24 1991 20:427
334.51I'll take a stab at it ...SITBUL::FYFEFri Jan 25 1991 10:4417
334.52IN my case it was the liningsLEDS::LEWICKEIfItsWorthDoingItsWorthDoingToExcessFri Jan 25 1991 12:2612
334.53More info on rear wheel lockupTARKIN::HARTWELLDave HartwellFri Jan 25 1991 16:0326
334.54Linings, probably...SASE::SZABOI play just what I feelFri Jan 25 1991 16:1810
334.55Ford does it tooTROA01::DEBOERFri Jan 25 1991 16:4210
334.56installing/adjusting drum brakes properlyMVDS01::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksFri Jan 25 1991 16:5233
334.57Re -1 excellent descriptionTARKIN::HARTWELLDave HartwellMon Jan 28 1991 10:0921
334.58Grease, rust, oil, paint, now THAT's a different storyMVDS01::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksMon Jan 28 1991 16:104
334.59IdunnoLEDS::LEWICKERedneck in trainingMon Jan 28 1991 16:189
334.60CSS::KEITHReal men double clutchFri Feb 01 1991 17:538
334.61Car repair infoMR4DEC::DECARTERETWed Feb 27 1991 14:5717
334.62Did you loose something?MVDS01::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksWed Feb 27 1991 16:2820
334.63MR4DEC::DECARTERETWed Feb 27 1991 23:5314
334.64Have you bleed the brake lines?HPSTEK::DHAGGISThu Feb 28 1991 14:415
334.65STROKR::DEHAHNNo time for moderationThu Feb 28 1991 14:497
334.66Good point, -2MVDS01::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksThu Feb 28 1991 15:035
334.67MR4DEC::DECARTERETThu Feb 28 1991 16:3114
334.68Tain't no other way, nowMVDS01::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksThu Feb 28 1991 16:508
334.69FSDB50::FEINSMITHThu Feb 28 1991 19:448
334.70MR4DEC::DECARTERETSat Mar 02 1991 17:067
334.71Just pay the price...CAPD::BEAUDETMon Mar 04 1991 11:2710
334.72Not worth the effortMVDS01::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksMon Mar 04 1991 13:107
334.73Frozen brakes after 'Firestone'GIAMEM::TSONGMon Jul 01 1991 12:2426
334.74Small Claims CourtMR4DEC::DCADMUSMon Jul 01 1991 15:0930
334.75small court location/procedures.GIAMEM::TSONGMon Jul 01 1991 15:516
334.76THE PHONE BOOKMR4DEC::DCADMUSMon Jul 01 1991 16:3212
334.77moreBUSY::BELLIVEAUMon Jul 01 1991 23:1915
334.78whole left rear assembly ?GIAMEM::TSONGTue Jul 02 1991 12:1411
334.79MILKWY::SLABOUNTYWould you like a McDolphin, sir?Wed Aug 07 1991 13:5216
334.80Balance Weight Fell Off of DrumVIA::SUNGLive Free or Live in MAWed Sep 04 1991 15:4215
334.81NOVA::ASCHNEIDERAndy Schneider - DTN 264-5515Wed Sep 04 1991 16:3514
334.82Electric weld/not gas it.VCSESU::D_SMITHWed Sep 04 1991 16:457
334.83MR4DEC::DCADMUSFri Sep 20 1991 16:167
334.84It's just a little bitty weightLEDS::LEWICKEMy other vehicle is a CaterpillarFri Sep 20 1991 17:2712
334.85replace drums or move to disksATE017::ENNISFri Oct 04 1991 09:3715
334.86Try a NAPA store firstHSOMAI::HARDMANLife's a mountain, not a beach!Sun Oct 06 1991 14:4910
334.87Question on adjusting rear brakes "too tight"HELIX::SONTAKKEWed Dec 04 1991 10:0736
334.88we got nothin to do - let's pull drums for funHYEND::BURTONWed Dec 04 1991 10:1812
334.89Is it a requirement by New Hampshire Govt?HELIX::SONTAKKEWed Dec 04 1991 10:4017
334.90KOALA::DIAMONDNo brag, Just fact.Wed Dec 04 1991 10:4812
334.91Replace wheel cylinder and still no brake.HYEND::C_DENOPOULOSUP all night with Rhonda!Mon Dec 09 1991 18:109
334.92Same car different bodyGIAMEM::HARTOh My Akin BakTue Dec 10 1991 09:5014
334.93GNPIKE::STOREYArtist in search of a medium/largeTue Dec 10 1991 10:258
334.94I remember that "design"LEDS::LEWICKEMy other vehicle is a CaterpillarTue Dec 10 1991 10:5515
334.95bleed all wheels.COMET::DONOVANTue Dec 10 1991 12:445
334.96check that bpJURAN::HAWKETue Dec 10 1991 13:259
334.97HYEND::C_DENOPOULOSUP all night with Rhonda!Tue Dec 10 1991 15:098
334.98Have you adjusted your (Ford) brakes lately?MLCSSE::MILLERTue Dec 17 1991 13:2320
334.99If it ain't broke...LEDS::COHENWhat do I drive? a Taylor-Made!Tue Dec 17 1991 13:324
334.100gott be a wayMLCSSE::MILLERTue Dec 17 1991 15:2914
334.101Full floater brakesSOLVIT::THOMSRoss 285-3151Wed Jun 03 1992 16:334
334.102It's sorta like doing the front...HSOMAI::HARDMANLife's too short to drive a HondaThu Jun 04 1992 02:1018
334.103Drum too tight going ONBUSY::CLEMENTSmells like NirvanaTue May 11 1993 12:0220
334.104New, unstretched cable is your problemMVDS02::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksTue May 11 1993 14:1010
334.105cable it was...BUSY::CLEMENTSmells like NirvanaThu May 13 1993 17:523
334.106Smoke from the drum...BUSY::CLEMENTSmells like NirvanaMon May 24 1993 11:1229
334.107MSBNET::KELTZOld Hippie, Just tryin' to adjust!Mon May 24 1993 12:398
334.108HDLITE::ZARLENGAMichael Zarlenga, Alpha P/PEGTue May 25 1993 15:143
334.109drum thoughtsCXDOCS::HELMREICHTue May 25 1993 17:3710
334.110so far...BUSY::CLEMENTSmells like NirvanaTue May 25 1993 18:1917
334.111The mystery of the appearing emergency brakeCADSYS::SHEPARDOverwhelmed by trivialitiesMon Nov 08 1993 17:1929
334.112KAOOA::HASIBEDERGood tea, nice houseMon Nov 08 1993 18:3113
334.113Won't replace drums until I know it will fix itCADSYS::SHEPARDOverwhelmed by trivialitiesMon Nov 08 1993 20:309
334.114I have no experience with Tempo's so read this with some skeptisizm11SRUS::FYFEUnited We Stand America - 800 283-6871Tue Nov 09 1993 12:0240
334.115rotors are cheap - drums are expensiveCADSYS::SHEPARDOverwhelmed by trivialitiesTue Nov 09 1993 12:4236
334.116A simple mechanical systemVICKI::DODIERCars suck, then they dieTue Nov 09 1993 13:1321
334.117Semi-metalic pads/shoesVICKI::DODIERCars suck, then they dieTue Nov 09 1993 13:176
334.118You wrote the answers, you just can't see them ...11SRUS::FYFEUnited We Stand America - 800 283-6871Tue Nov 09 1993 13:2930
334.119Been there, done that. Guess I'll do it again.CADSYS::SHEPARDOverwhelmed by trivialitiesTue Nov 09 1993 15:5235
334.120HDLITE::ZARLENGAMichael Zarlenga, MRO AXP BPDAWed Nov 10 1993 18:417
334.121You have to keep resetting the "ratchet"CSLALL::NASEAM::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksWed Nov 10 1993 18:4911
334.122TEKVAX::KOPECpersistent objectFri Nov 12 1993 12:106
334.123BACKGROUND READINGCSLALL::NASEAM::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksFri Nov 12 1993 12:438
334.124Its not the adjustorsCADSYS::SHEPARDOverwhelmed by trivialitiesFri Nov 12 1993 13:0914
334.125a little theoryCSLALL::NASEAM::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksFri Nov 12 1993 13:3527
334.126Now I get itCADSYS::SHEPARDOverwhelmed by trivialitiesFri Nov 12 1993 14:0126
334.127just a thought ...11SRUS::FYFEUnited We Stand America - 800 283-6871Mon Nov 15 1993 11:5611
334.128STARCH::HAGERMANFlames to /dev/nullTue Nov 16 1993 11:449
334.129Rear Brake "creak"WILBRY::ASCHNEIDERAndy Schneider - DTN 381-1696Mon Dec 06 1993 15:3913
334.130CAPNET::GMILLERMon Dec 06 1993 15:5711
334.131:-)OASS::STDBKR::Burden_dSynchromesh gearboxes are for wimpsMon Dec 06 1993 16:013
334.132They might say "They all do that!"BROKE::TAYLORSchool's open and traffic chompsMon Dec 06 1993 16:146
334.133Brakes - will they wear me out?STAR::PFAUTue Feb 22 1994 19:3028
334.134BUSY::SLABOUNTYIs this p_n great or what?Tue Feb 22 1994 20:026
334.135I'll give it a try.STAR::PFAUWed Feb 23 1994 11:1018
334.136lug nutsBUSY::CLEMENTSmells like NirvanaThu Feb 24 1994 14:275
334.13755 Ford PU Brake problemCXCAD::FRASERMon May 23 1994 14:3915
334.138Bore size could be wrong, tooNASEAM::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksMon May 23 1994 14:5210
334.139Maybe simple??LEDS::LEWICKEhe is my painMon May 23 1994 14:594
334.140Probably not 'too long" 'cause it usta workNASEAM::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksMon May 23 1994 15:117
334.141Yes,no, and that's a possibility.CXCAD::FRASERMon May 23 1994 15:5111
334.142PROPORTIONING VALVE SOUNDS LIKE A BANDAIDNASEAM::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksMon May 23 1994 16:2533
334.1432 sizes in a tandem cyl???AUSSIE::COLEPhil Cole in Merrimack 264-2045Mon May 23 1994 19:2226
334.144Right againCXCAD::FRASERTue May 24 1994 11:589
334.145Things we won't talk about today.CXCAD::FRASERWed May 25 1994 12:4315
334.146Camaro brake ?sUSDEV::CLEMENTSmells like NirvanaMon Oct 09 1995 11:0333
334.147BUSY::SLABOUNTYA swift kick in the butt - $1Mon Oct 09 1995 11:0916
334.148and don't loop the cable forward to reach the wrong shoe, eitherCSLALL::SREADIOMon Oct 09 1995 12:3310
334.149Yeah, I had to buy a kids car!\USDEV::CLEMENTSmells like NirvanaMon Oct 09 1995 14:169
334.150no 180 degree bendsCSLALL::SREADIOMon Oct 09 1995 14:3024
334.151More Thoughts..USDEV::CLEMENTSmells like NirvanaMon Oct 09 1995 14:5028
334.152Kids ain't too bright, sometimesCSLALL::SREADIOMon Oct 09 1995 15:2518
334.153USDEV::CLEMENTSmells like NirvanaMon Oct 09 1995 15:595
334.154Backing plates are OK, cable is not...MSBCS::MUMFORDTue Oct 10 1995 17:2310
334.155You don't sayUSDEV::CLEMENTSmells like NirvanaTue Oct 10 1995 18:5317
334.156Cable is routed correctlyUSDEV::CLEMENTSmells like NirvanaWed Oct 11 1995 10:459
334.157Betcha it's the rear cable...MSBCS::MUMFORDWed Oct 11 1995 13:568
334.158ObstaclesUSDEV::CLEMENTSmells like NirvanaMon Oct 16 1995 11:019
334.159And the obstacles don't move, either!MSBCS::MUMFORDMon Oct 16 1995 18:358
334.160fun stuffUSDEV::CLEMENTSmells like NirvanaMon Oct 16 1995 19:309
334.161Honing LubeUSDEV::CLEMENTSmells like NirvanaMon May 06 1996 13:436
334.162HoningSTRATA::YACINOMon May 06 1996 14:543
334.163'49 FordAIMTEC::STDBKR::Burden_dKeep Cool with CoolidgeTue Oct 22 1996 19:4212
334.164could be bad rubber linesMRVAX::BROCKELMANthe brockTue Oct 22 1996 21:406
334.165linkage is too longCSLALL::NASEAM::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksTue Oct 22 1996 21:5813
334.166APACHE::KEITHDr. DeuceWed Oct 23 1996 12:495
334.167the hole's blockedCSLALL::NASEAM::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksWed Oct 23 1996 16:3822
334.168fixedAIMTEC::STDBKR::Burden_dKeep Cool with CoolidgeThu Nov 21 1996 13:4814
334.169Can't retract wheel cylinderMILKWY::UTTLEYIt's what? Too Loud? Aw c'mon!Thu Dec 26 1996 10:5819
334.170go to the expertsCSLALL::NASEAM::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksThu Dec 26 1996 14:0410
334.171probably not the proportioning valveCSLALL::NASEAM::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksThu Dec 26 1996 14:109
334.172Probably the cylinderMILKWY::UTTLEYIt's what? Too Loud? Aw c'mon!Thu Dec 26 1996 14:2915
334.173springRHETT::STDBKR::BurdenKeep Cool with CoolidgeThu Dec 26 1996 14:515
334.174Haven't been in thereMILKWY::UTTLEYIt's what? Too Loud? Aw c'mon!Thu Dec 26 1996 15:419
334.175I'd vote for crap in the lineHNDYMN::MCCARTHYA Quinn Martin ProductionThu Dec 26 1996 16:0012
334.176Bad wheel cylinderMILKWY::UTTLEYIt's what? Too Loud? Aw c'mon!Mon Dec 30 1996 13:1410
334.177Don;t you hate it when,USDEV1::CLEMENTSmells like NirvanaMon May 19 1997 19:2314
    What a way to spend a beautiful Sunday!  
    
    My Dakota left rear wheel has been hot and dragging.  I noticed an
    accumulation of crud on the backing plate.  Something was definitely
    leaking and I expected it to be the brake wheel cylinder.

    As I got to it yesterday, the smell was definitely that of gear oil.
    I replaced the axle oil seal.  Put the brakes back on, ran the vehicle
    up on jack stands to check for more leaks.  No more gear oil leaking
    but now the brake cylinder started to leak brake fluid.

    Bought a rebuild kit today and hope to get that on tonite.  
    
    Mark