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Conference vmsnet::car$note:carbuffs

Title:Carbuffs
Moderator:DASXPS::NASEAM::READIO
Created:Tue Dec 13 1988
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:632
Total number of notes:88145

238.0. "Timing Belt Questions" by ACCARS::ALDRICH () Sat May 13 1989 20:58

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238.1A Tale of Two BeltsTRLIAN::ROYJanuary 25.... 155,000Fri Mar 02 1990 13:1872
238.2I don't get it!!HYEND::C_DENOPOULOSI have Chronic LyripsychosisFri Mar 02 1990 15:007
238.3MLCSSE::MILLERFri Mar 02 1990 15:4210
238.4Because, it's taken us there and back....TRLIAN::ROYJanuary 25.... 155,000Fri Mar 02 1990 15:4536
238.5Gonna get a horse next.....TRLIAN::ROYJanuary 25.... 155,000Fri Mar 02 1990 15:5214
238.6I figured there was more.HYEND::C_DENOPOULOSI have Chronic LyripsychosisMon Mar 05 1990 12:115
238.7The end of THIS story (we hope).....TRLIAN::ROYJanuary 25.... 155,000Mon Mar 05 1990 17:1545
238.8Got what you paid for...almostSTEREO::BEAUDETWe'll leave the light on for ya..Tue Mar 06 1990 19:4818
238.9I think we agree.....TRLIAN::ROYJanuary 25.... 155,000Wed Mar 07 1990 13:3847
238.10MILKWY::SLABOUNTYAudiophiles do it 'til it hertz!Thu May 17 1990 20:4014
238.11what does it "sense" ?ENGINE::MICHAELThu May 17 1990 21:165
238.12Broken beltsDSM::HOLBROOKDave Holbrook 297-2356Thu May 24 1990 18:145
238.13KAOA01::GILESThu May 24 1990 20:347
238.14Daytona 2.2 Turbo with about 42 horsepowerMLCSSE::MILLERMon Aug 20 1990 18:0031
238.15An easy job- do it yourself16BITS::FISHERBuilding a faster pigTue Aug 21 1990 17:488
238.16sounds like valve timeing to me tooEUCLID::MICHAELWed Aug 22 1990 15:5113
238.17Do it right16BITS::FISHERBuilding a faster pigWed Aug 22 1990 18:3719
238.18Fix = valve timingMLCSSE::MILLERThu Aug 23 1990 16:1125
238.19Timing belt questions for 1984 SentraHPSRAD::AJAIWed Sep 12 1990 16:3724
238.20Sorry, but I can't let this one goMILKWY::SLABOUNTYHemorrhoid from HellWed Sep 12 1990 16:4712
238.21mine was easyCOMET::RUTHERThu Sep 13 1990 03:2015
238.22Thanks, but a couple more questions!HPSRAD::AJAIThu Sep 13 1990 14:4435
238.23COMET::RUTHERThu Sep 13 1990 23:3514
238.24hmm. there's all that play in the drive train thouSOFLAV::BELKINthe slow one now will later be fastFri Sep 14 1990 18:1613
238.25made MY dayCOMET::RUTHERSat Sep 15 1990 03:1210
238.26Changing 1984 Sentra timing belt - failed first attemptHPSRAD::AJAIMon Sep 24 1990 16:3237
238.271984 Sentra Timing Belt changed at last!HPSRAD::AJAIMon Oct 08 1990 15:0733
238.28Cryco belt questionICS::SOTTILEJust Go Away...Tue Oct 30 1990 10:154
238.2950,000MSESU::HOPKINStax the rich...feed the poor...Tue Oct 30 1990 13:445
238.30KAOA01::GILESFri Nov 09 1990 11:513
238.31Looking for trouble--it's fridayDATABS::SOOWe need the machine that goes *ping*.Fri Nov 09 1990 13:295
238.32FSDB00::FEINSMITHFri Nov 09 1990 13:3713
238.33timing beltsSTORM::BROWNFri Nov 09 1990 17:485
238.34Give me a good old 64 mustang 260 engine!...ASDS::COHENNothing is EVER easy...Wed Nov 14 1990 15:4916
238.35Ford/Merkur belt change easy?MR4DEC::KCRUDUPKenny Crudup, DECie again @MRO4Mon Dec 10 1990 22:1718
238.36FSDB46::FEINSMITHWed Dec 12 1990 13:225
238.37that pulley bothers meMR4DEC::KCRUDUPKenny Crudup, DECie again @MRO4Wed Dec 12 1990 14:4310
238.38He even promises to align the correct marks :-)PAXVAX::SONTAKKEWed Dec 12 1990 18:1615
238.39KOALA::DIAMONDNo brag, Just fact.Wed Dec 12 1990 18:3111
238.40FSDB00::FEINSMITHThu Dec 13 1990 11:4910
238.41Do I need to change timing belt now...??ASD::RAMANWed May 08 1991 17:5915
238.42MR4DEC::RONThu May 09 1991 02:2715
238.43Living on borrowed timeTROA02::DPURDIEThu May 09 1991 03:425
238.44GWYNED::BURTONThu May 09 1991 10:179
238.45HELIX::SONTAKKEThu May 09 1991 10:424
238.46Do it now !!!!!AKOV05::LAMPROSThu May 09 1991 10:459
238.47GWYNED::BURTONThu May 09 1991 10:517
238.48HELIX::SONTAKKEThu May 09 1991 11:0921
238.49Ford 2.3L turboMR4DEC::KCRUDUPKenny Crudup @MRO4-2/C17, 297-1553/3509Thu May 09 1991 12:3610
238.50MILKWY::SLABOUNTYch-ch-ch-ch-ha-ha-ha-haThu May 09 1991 12:4615
238.51I never knew the belts were gonna break in the wife's ChevetteMVDS01::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksThu May 09 1991 12:497
238.52GWYNED::BURTONThu May 09 1991 13:224
238.53HYEND::C_DENOPOULOSAim! Fire! Ready!Thu May 09 1991 13:535
238.54BGTWIN::dehahnNo time for moderationThu May 09 1991 15:539
238.55KAOFS::S_BROOKThu May 09 1991 15:596
238.56NitpickingTROA01::DPURDIEThu May 09 1991 16:143
238.57GWYNED::BURTONThu May 09 1991 16:416
238.58MRQUIS::MCGOLDRICKThu May 09 1991 17:0130
238.59GWYNED::BURTONThu May 09 1991 17:497
238.60If he charges 3hr, he must get it done in 2 :-)HELIX::SONTAKKEThu May 09 1991 18:1816
238.61MRQUIS::MCGOLDRICKThu May 09 1991 18:5527
238.62Just *DO* itLEDS::COHENThe more you drive, the less intelligent you becomeFri May 10 1991 10:2417
238.63HELIX::SONTAKKEFri May 10 1991 12:1424
238.64ahhh, fooey on them!BARFLY::BELKINthe slow one now will later be fastFri May 10 1991 14:3312
238.65MR4DEC::RONFri May 10 1991 14:4655
238.66Pushing Luck = False EconomyKAHALA::PRESTONBeastly Rotter in residenceFri May 10 1991 15:4615
238.67KOALA::DIAMONDNo brag, Just fact.Fri May 10 1991 15:599
238.68Progress?TSGDEV::WAITEThings are fine in Mt. Idy she goes onFri May 10 1991 16:0013
238.69KOALA::DIAMONDNo brag, Just fact.Fri May 10 1991 16:108
238.70SOLVIT::THOMSdigital index operatorFri May 10 1991 16:1412
238.71KOALA::DIAMONDNo brag, Just fact.Fri May 10 1991 16:198
238.72a few real reasonsLEDS::LEWICKEMy other vehicle is a CaterpillarFri May 10 1991 16:5620
238.73Be careful what you wish for, you may get itJLGVS::GUNNERSONYou got what you wanted and lost what you hadFri May 10 1991 16:5910
238.74OOPLEDS::LEWICKEMy other vehicle is a CaterpillarFri May 10 1991 17:012
238.75FSDB46::FEINSMITHPolitically Incorrect And Proud Of ItFri May 10 1991 18:194
238.76BGTWIN::dehahnNo time for moderationMon May 13 1991 10:294
238.77timing chain/OHC/BMWsYNGSTR::BROWNMon May 13 1991 18:042
238.78Chains could be doneMLCSSE::MILLERMon May 13 1991 18:468
238.79Copy CatsTROA09::DPURDIEMon May 13 1991 19:483
238.80Gears, tooKAHALA::PRESTONBeastly Rotter in residenceTue May 14 1991 16:577
238.81'nother place to find gears onlyHSOMAI::HARDMANThunderTrucks of TexasThu May 16 1991 00:505
238.82HYEND::C_DENOPOULOSAim! Fire! Ready!Thu May 16 1991 11:143
238.83voice of experience...SMURF::DIBBLERECYCLE - do it now, or pay later!Sun May 19 1991 00:146
238.84TLE::ZANZERKIASun May 19 1991 21:277
238.85HELIX::SONTAKKEMon May 20 1991 11:164
238.86How good are Honda's timing belts?HPSTEK::DHAGGISMon May 20 1991 13:0130
238.87You could be rightHELIX::SONTAKKEMon May 20 1991 14:226
238.88Personally, I'd rather live with the noiseVICKI::DODIERFood for thought makes me hungryThu May 23 1991 15:343
238.89I just LOVE timing belts... :^)WMOIS::BELANGER_FFri May 24 1991 23:4315
238.90CLARET::ADEYThat's Brahms' third racket!Thu Jun 13 1991 17:499
238.91MILKWY::SLABOUNTYHave fun storming the castle!!Thu Jun 13 1991 17:538
238.92KAHALA::FULTZED FULTZFri Jun 14 1991 11:408
238.94Confused?LEDS::COHENThe more you drive, the less intelligent you becomeFri Jun 14 1991 15:1612
238.95notes collisionBTOVT::BROWN_Jraisin' it up, waxin' it downFri Jun 14 1991 15:1713
238.96MILKWY::SLABOUNTYHave fun storming the castle!!Fri Jun 14 1991 16:1012
238.97Ayep!CSC32::D_ROYERSet course for Humanity, Warp 9.5!Fri Jun 14 1991 16:507
238.98HELIX::SONTAKKEMon Jun 17 1991 12:339
238.99KOALA::DIAMONDNo brag, Just fact.Mon Jun 17 1991 12:509
238.100I hate these preventing maintananceHELIX::SONTAKKEMon Jun 17 1991 13:103
238.101NO TIMING LIGHTS!EMDS::MICHAELMon Jun 17 1991 13:2913
238.102HELIX::SONTAKKEMon Jun 17 1991 13:366
238.103FSDB50::FEINSMITHPolitically Incorrect And Proud Of ItMon Jun 17 1991 13:566
238.104KOALA::DIAMONDNo brag, Just fact.Mon Jun 17 1991 15:539
238.105FSDB50::FEINSMITHPolitically Incorrect And Proud Of ItMon Jun 17 1991 16:1215
238.106KAHALA::FULTZED FULTZMon Jun 17 1991 17:135
238.107KOALA::DIAMONDNo brag, Just fact.Mon Jun 17 1991 17:439
238.108Who cares?LEDS::LEWICKEMy other vehicle is a CaterpillarMon Jun 17 1991 17:508
238.109High TechLEDS::COHENThe more you drive, the less intelligent you becomeMon Jun 17 1991 18:1726
238.110Timing belt for '87 Chev Nova (toyota engine)?ULTRA::FERGUSONToo much Magic BusTue Jun 18 1991 12:2016
238.111GWYNED::BURTONTue Jun 18 1991 12:4311
238.112FSDB50::FEINSMITHPolitically Incorrect And Proud Of ItTue Jun 18 1991 12:484
238.113MILKWY::SLABOUNTYHave fun storming the castle!!Tue Jun 18 1991 12:4911
238.114It CAN run off a toothMLCSSE::MILLERTue Jun 18 1991 12:5524
238.115WMOIS::BELANGER_FTue Jun 18 1991 19:3213
238.116FSDB50::FEINSMITHPolitically Incorrect And Proud Of ItTue Jun 18 1991 23:135
238.117MLCSSE::MILLERWed Jun 19 1991 14:4213
238.118more power different applicationLEDS::LEWICKEMy other vehicle is a CaterpillarWed Jun 19 1991 15:126
238.119FSDB50::FEINSMITHPolitically Incorrect And Proud Of ItWed Jun 19 1991 17:346
238.120If tensioner fails - bang go valves again!GWYNED::BURTONWed Jun 19 1991 17:446
238.121CLARET::ADEYThat's Brahms' third racket!Thu Jun 20 1991 11:5317
238.122Mazda ?SALEM::VINCENTThu Jun 20 1991 18:158
238.123KAHALA::FULTZED FULTZFri Jun 21 1991 11:327
238.124HELIX::SONTAKKEFri Jun 21 1991 18:5112
238.1258^) congrats!BTOVT::BROWN_JZappa for Pres!!!!Fri Jun 21 1991 19:204
238.126GWYNED::BURTONMon Jun 24 1991 10:305
238.127TLE::LEGERLOTZWhen I want your opinion I'll ask for it.Mon Jun 24 1991 11:4614
238.128MR4DEC::KCRUDUPKenny Crudup @MRO4-2/C17, 297-3509/1553Mon Jun 24 1991 12:4510
238.130The ole College Try!TLE::LEGERLOTZWhen I want your opinion I'll ask for it.Mon Jun 24 1991 13:245
238.131C-clamp the pulley.HPSTEK::DHAGGISMon Jun 24 1991 15:229
238.132MILKWY::SLABOUNTYWould you like a McDolphin, sir?Fri Aug 02 1991 17:3232
238.133KOALA::DIAMONDNo brag, Just fact.Fri Aug 02 1991 17:3827
238.134:-)LEDS::LEWICKEMy other vehicle is a CaterpillarFri Aug 02 1991 17:5411
238.135Might be thinking of something else...ULTRA::FERGUSONToo much Magic BusMon Aug 05 1991 00:402
238.136FSDB45::FEINSMITHPolitically Incorrect And Proud Of ItMon Aug 05 1991 01:2618
238.137Torque the crank pully correctly, tooMVDS01::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksTue Aug 06 1991 12:5435
238.138MILKWY::SLABOUNTYWould you like a McDolphin, sir?Wed Aug 07 1991 13:4617
238.139Awsome ChevetteHELIX::SONTAKKEThu Aug 08 1991 12:317
238.140MILKWY::SLABOUNTYWould you like a McDolphin, sir?Thu Aug 08 1991 13:009
238.141The Sh*tvette?WMOIS::BELANGER_FFri Aug 09 1991 18:377
238.142KOALA::DIAMONDNo brag, Just fact.Mon Aug 12 1991 11:506
238.143I miss my Vegas :-(YOGI::FYFENever tell a dragon your real name!Mon Aug 12 1991 13:3117
238.144KOALA::DIAMONDNo brag, Just fact.Mon Aug 12 1991 13:437
238.145RAMBLR::MORONEYI've fallen and I can't go boom!Mon Aug 12 1991 15:258
238.146QUARK::LIONELFree advice is worth every centMon Aug 12 1991 15:397
238.147FSDB00::FEINSMITHPolitically Incorrect And Proud Of ItMon Aug 12 1991 15:554
238.148KOALA::DIAMONDNo brag, Just fact.Mon Aug 12 1991 16:4613
238.149I've got one with a sleeved block in my cellar.LEDS::LEWICKEMy other vehicle is a CaterpillarMon Aug 12 1991 17:5011
238.150KOALA::DIAMONDNo brag, Just fact.Mon Aug 12 1991 18:0614
238.151My Vega StoryULTRA::FERGUSONToo much Magic BusTue Aug 13 1991 11:5724
238.152In search of advice.ZENDIA::BREEDENIf you don't try, you can't failMon Aug 26 1991 12:2219
238.153QUARK::LIONELFree advice is worth every centMon Aug 26 1991 12:514
238.154KOALA::DIAMONDNo brag, Just fact.Mon Aug 26 1991 12:596
238.155MLCSSE::MILLERMon Aug 26 1991 13:029
238.156BTOVT::BROWN_JMon Aug 26 1991 14:1311
238.157He had 58K on his ... hint, hint.MILKWY::SLABOUNTYExit light ... enter night.Mon Aug 26 1991 15:105
238.158RAMBLR::MORONEYI've fallen and I can't go boom!Mon Aug 26 1991 15:109
238.159BGTWIN::dehahnEvolution is an unproven theoryMon Aug 26 1991 15:188
238.160LEDDEV::CIAFFItake my hand,off to never-never landMon Aug 26 1991 15:2113
238.161Found it!!! note 182.227BTOVT::BROWN_JMon Aug 26 1991 15:5011
238.162Twist and ShoutLEDS::COHENWhat do I drive? a Taylor-Made!Mon Aug 26 1991 16:108
238.163MILKWY::SLABOUNTYExit light ... enter night.Mon Aug 26 1991 16:108
238.164LEDDEV::CIAFFItake my hand,off to never-never landMon Aug 26 1991 16:576
238.165exRECYCL::MCBRIDEMon Aug 26 1991 18:1315
238.166MLCSSE::MILLERMon Aug 26 1991 18:499
238.167LEDDEV::CIAFFItake my hand,off to never-never landTue Aug 27 1991 16:086
238.168Anyone besides dealers sell beltsCADSYS::CADSYS::FENNELLWed Aug 28 1991 00:3111
238.169HELIX::SONTAKKEWed Aug 28 1991 10:483
238.170shop aroundRECYCL::MCBRIDEWed Aug 28 1991 11:338
238.171Timing Belt Replacement ListHELIX::SONTAKKEWed Aug 28 1991 16:4266
238.172VCSESU::MOSHER::COOKDemons fall as Angels thriveWed Aug 28 1991 16:553
238.173VW'sOASS::BURDEN_DHe's no fun, he fell right overWed Aug 28 1991 18:456
238.174All Escorts are not the sameVCSESU::D_SMITHThu Aug 29 1991 09:275
238.175Change it real soon,like tommorow.SWAM1::MEUSE_DATue Sep 10 1991 20:0412
238.176Timing belt change changed timingSYNCRO::BRYANTTue Sep 24 1991 15:1029
238.177BGTWIN::dehahnEvolution is an unproven theoryTue Sep 24 1991 16:2810
238.178SYNCRO::BRYANTTue Sep 24 1991 18:105
238.179Replace every 60K...4413::Michael McCarthyI Love my 914Wed Sep 25 1991 10:457
238.180Not true for all VW enginesTSGDEV::WAITEThings are fine in Mt. Idy she goes onWed Sep 25 1991 11:355
238.181What can "they" screw up during belt replacement?SASE::SZABOTortureChamber,ValleyOfDeath,NightSchoolWed Sep 25 1991 12:3918
238.182if something works...?WUMBCK::FOXWed Sep 25 1991 12:523
238.183BGTWIN::dehahnEvolution is an unproven theoryWed Sep 25 1991 13:1810
238.184SEE LISTDELNI::PILLIVANTWed Sep 25 1991 13:253
238.185WUMBCK::FOXWed Sep 25 1991 13:395
238.186BGTWIN::dehahnEvolution is an unproven theoryWed Sep 25 1991 13:496
238.187They do break down with age!4413::Michael McCarthyI Love my 914Wed Sep 25 1991 14:2222
238.188More difficult than plugging in a connector :-)HELIX::SONTAKKEWed Sep 25 1991 16:0615
238.189WUMBCK::FOXWed Sep 25 1991 16:4211
238.190Belt life varies a lot I guessSYNCRO::BRYANTWed Sep 25 1991 18:575
238.191Try it with a diesel!POLAR::ROBINSONPThu Sep 26 1991 19:1211
238.192Please helpCNTROL::HUYNHMon Dec 30 1991 16:2411
238.193KOALA::DIAMONDNo brag, Just fact.Mon Dec 30 1991 16:4414
238.194CNTROL::HUYNHMon Dec 30 1991 18:1113
238.195KOALA::DIAMONDNo brag, Just fact.Mon Dec 30 1991 18:338
238.196#$@^#%$ Timing BeltsMLCSSE::MILLERMon Jan 06 1992 13:0918
238.197RE: the '83 SentraBUSKER::ALLENWhen all is said and done, there's nothing left to say or do.Thu Jan 16 1992 18:0612
238.198CNTROL::HUYNHFri Jan 17 1992 14:199
238.199any hints/help would be niceKAHALA::DUNTONMon Feb 03 1992 11:2215
238.200Another QuestionDEMING::CHANGMon May 04 1992 19:2813
238.201KOALA::DIAMONDNo brag, Just fact.Mon May 04 1992 19:5620
238.202belt noiseOASS::BURDEN_D'24 Stude - The only way to TourTue May 05 1992 12:2211
238.203MLCSSE::MILLERTue May 05 1992 14:5710
238.204JURAN::HAWKEWed May 06 1992 14:547
238.205Looks like the other beltsDEMING::CHANGWed May 06 1992 16:367
238.206Performance improvement for sureRESYNC::D_SMITHThu May 07 1992 14:108
238.207Belts don't "stretch", they break firstMVDS02::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksThu May 07 1992 14:4325
238.208Timing Belt QuestionMELEE::KBEDARDmainWed Jun 10 1992 16:5118
238.209Deja Vu ?MVDS02::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksWed Jun 10 1992 18:161
238.210ELWOOD::WCLARKwe be jibin'Wed Jun 10 1992 19:517
238.211its your gambleMLCSSE::MILLERThu Jun 11 1992 18:4911
238.21287 Nova timing belt replacement done.ZENDIA::FERGUSONRoll me awayMon Nov 02 1992 15:5935
238.213MLCSSE::MILLERThu Nov 05 1992 19:178
238.214BUSY::SLABOUNTYI'm so damn cool.Fri Nov 06 1992 08:0310
238.215about 300 big ones...RHETT::LACORTIFri Nov 06 1992 12:1110
238.216Honda Acoord, 89: Should I or Shouldn't I?WEORG::GILLISMark Gillis, DTN 264-4167, NUO1-1/G10Tue Nov 10 1992 12:2312
238.217Preventive Maintenance schedules do work. Honest!BAGELS::SHAWParrothead - Mass ChapterTue Nov 10 1992 12:3114
238.218BUFFER::63663::TinglofTue Nov 10 1992 14:5712
238.219just doitJURAN::HAWKETue Nov 10 1992 15:038
238.220Do you feel lucky today? Well do ya?CORA::64423::BELKINthe slow one now will later be fastWed Nov 11 1992 14:527
238.221MANTHN::EDDShe was a diesel fixer...Wed Nov 11 1992 16:358
238.222ROULET::JOERILEYEveryone can dream...Thu Nov 12 1992 01:246
238.223Thanks, will do...WEORG::GILLISMark Gillis, DTN 264-4167, NUO1-1/G10Thu Nov 12 1992 11:506
238.224SANFAN::ALSTON_JOso far west, tomorrow is lateThu Nov 12 1992 14:1523
238.225urpJURAN::HAWKEThu Nov 12 1992 15:0210
238.226Kids are more flexible....WFOV12::KOEHLERPersonal_NameThu Nov 12 1992 15:0810
238.227'83 MERCURY, 2.3L, HOW TO HOLD CRANKSHAFT?BUFFER::KEEFEJACK KEEFE 276-8323Wed Feb 10 1993 18:0717
238.228use some ropeMVDS02::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksWed Feb 10 1993 18:318
238.229...and to re-torque the bolt....MVDS02::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksWed Feb 10 1993 18:334
238.230SANFAN::ALSTON_JOWed Feb 10 1993 20:253
238.231SNKERZ::SOTTILEGet on Your Bikes and RideThu Feb 11 1993 10:506
238.232No special skills requiredMLTVAX::FISHERKill your televisionThu Feb 11 1993 13:065
238.233Won't workMVDS02::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksThu Feb 11 1993 13:358
238.234Ahh Yes - The old rope trick. I have used engine oil but...TSGDEV::SYSTEMThu Feb 11 1993 15:277
238.235But it will workMVDS02::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksThu Feb 11 1993 16:2415
238.236You can rent an electric for cheap $VICKI::DODIERFood for thought makes me hungryWed Feb 17 1993 16:324
238.237'INTERFERENCE', SEVERE INTERNAL DAMAGE BREAK::BIBEAULTThu Mar 11 1993 19:3821
238.238Even the infamous list of vehicles...BOVES::FENNELLWhat you got buried in your backyard?Thu Mar 11 1993 21:101
238.239NICCTR::BURTONFri Mar 12 1993 09:5110
238.240high compression, high powered motors probably will self destruct.RPSTRY::CDDREP::LEGERLOTZAlan Legerlotz: Repository EngineeringFri Mar 12 1993 11:128
238.241There's more than one born every minuteLEDS::LEWICKEIf it ain't broke, don't buy it.Fri Mar 12 1993 11:1815
238.242The old fashioned wayBOVES::FENNELLWhat you got buried in your backyard?Fri Mar 12 1993 11:498
238.243ASDS::MILLERFri Mar 12 1993 13:4228
238.244Some belted motors also have tensionersEMDS::MCBRIDEFlick of my BIC Scarecrow?Fri Mar 12 1993 14:587
238.245REACH::WRIGHTLife was never meant to be painlessFri Mar 12 1993 15:2611
238.246Technological differencesMVDS02::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksFri Mar 12 1993 17:248
238.247NICCTR::BURTONFri Mar 12 1993 17:464
238.24822:1OASS::BURDEN_DA bear in his natural habitatFri Mar 12 1993 19:097
238.249ROULET::JOERILEYEveryone can dream...Sat Mar 13 1993 01:324
238.250SubaruBUSKER::ALLENWhen all is said and done, there's nothing left to say or do.Fri Mar 19 1993 18:398
238.251Eclipse GS timing Belt brks @20kCACHE::KLAUZINSKIThu Apr 01 1993 17:4713
238.252Bent valves may or may not be the end of it...OAW::MILLERThu Apr 01 1993 18:0410
238.253Timing belt snaps at 20KCACHE::KLAUZINSKIThu Apr 01 1993 18:536
238.254huh?QETOO::POWISFri Apr 02 1993 10:0018
238.255what's the cause?QETOO::POWISFri Apr 02 1993 10:036
238.256seems to be a common problem !AMCSAD::SCHWARTZwhat do you get when you mult 6x9Fri Apr 02 1993 12:0113
238.257correctionCACHE::KLAUZINSKIFri Apr 02 1993 12:0410
238.258QETOO::POWISFri Apr 02 1993 12:167
238.259Underdesigned?LEDS::LEWICKEIf it ain't broke, don't buy it.Fri Apr 02 1993 13:1110
238.260BUSY::SLABOUNTYIt's a fine, fine dayFri Apr 02 1993 15:236
238.261:-)OASS::FLASHE::BURDEN_DA bear in his natural habitatFri Apr 02 1993 15:243
238.262Yes, we have an answer, now what is the Question?CSC32::D_ROYERChi beve birra campa cent'anni.Fri Apr 02 1993 15:568
238.263take a look...BUSKER::ALLENWhen all is said and done, there's nothing left to say or do.Fri Apr 02 1993 21:0610
238.264CHAIN or BELT?YIELD::KHANMon Apr 05 1993 16:068
238.265Metal vs rubberBOVES::FENNELLBack to the LightMon Apr 05 1993 17:317
238.266Reliability Chain vs. Belts?YIELD::KHANMon Apr 05 1993 19:1622
238.267Only things I can think ofBOVES::FENNELLBack to the LightMon Apr 05 1993 19:324
238.268pros and consASDS::MILLERMon Apr 05 1993 19:5117
238.269CSC32::S_BROOKI just passed myself going in the other direction!Mon Apr 05 1993 20:087
238.270SAHQ::BEAZLEYMon Apr 05 1993 20:199
238.271QUARK::LIONELFree advice is worth every centTue Apr 06 1993 12:574
238.272Replacement period for chains?YIELD::KHANTue Apr 06 1993 16:1810
238.273BROWNY::DBLDOG::DONHAMProgress Through TraditionTue Apr 06 1993 18:317
238.274ASDS::MILLERTue Apr 06 1993 18:5320
238.275145K and countingPEROIT::ZANZERKIATue Apr 06 1993 20:575
238.276HDLITE::ZARLENGAMichael Zarlenga, Alpha P/PEGWed Apr 07 1993 00:065
238.277no problems at 140,000NICCTR::BURTONWed Apr 07 1993 11:158
238.278I never saw an internal timing beltLEDS::LEWICKEIf it ain't broke, don't buy it.Wed Apr 07 1993 13:007
238.279HDLITE::ZARLENGAMichael Zarlenga, Alpha P/PEGWed Apr 07 1993 16:3011
238.280Practice helpsJURAN::HAWKEThu Apr 08 1993 07:196
238.281NOVA::FISHERDEC Rdb/DinosaurThu Apr 08 1993 10:1031
238.282my two bitsLEDS::ROBERTSONThu Apr 08 1993 10:5021
238.283more bitsSPHERE::DUNTONFrankly my dear.....Thu Apr 08 1993 12:3712
238.284Fails sooner on 16V-enginesHANNAH::KUMARThu Apr 08 1993 14:185
238.285HDLITE::ZARLENGAMichael Zarlenga, Alpha P/PEGTue Jun 15 1993 17:1113
238.286Another Timing Chain Bites It.ROYALT::JOYGThu Jun 17 1993 14:3820
238.287I'd get a second opinion about the chainLEDS::LEWICKEBosnia, Waco, what's the difference????Thu Jun 17 1993 14:5412
238.288CAPEW1::GMILLERThu Jun 17 1993 15:538
238.289Which is it?LEDS::LEWICKEBosnia, Waco, what's the difference????Thu Jun 17 1993 15:599
238.290heres more goop for the messALLVAX::DUNTONFrankly my dear.....Fri Jun 18 1993 11:5710
238.291Wrong installation!SOLVIT::NNGUYENFri Oct 29 1993 12:3014
238.292Huh?SPIKEW::ASCHNEIDERAndy Schneider - DTN 381-1696Fri Oct 29 1993 12:347
238.293That's what they said SOLVIT::NNGUYENFri Oct 29 1993 13:107
238.294Maybe not your problem. CSC32::D_ROYERChi beve birra campa cent'anni.Fri Oct 29 1993 13:157
238.295Bought as is, problem is mineSOLVIT::NNGUYENFri Oct 29 1993 13:5514
238.296Can you say SUCKER?CSLALL::NASEAM::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksFri Oct 29 1993 13:5536
238.297maybe the other kind of backwards????SOLVIT::BXOFRN::ROYlose your step fall outa graceFri Oct 29 1993 14:1014
238.298More problem?SOLVIT::NNGUYENFri Oct 29 1993 14:2712
238.299Never mind, HERE'S your problemCSLALL::NASEAM::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksFri Oct 29 1993 14:456
238.300does this engine have a balance shaft?MR4DEC::SCHNEIDERPerception is deceptionFri Oct 29 1993 16:193
238.301HELIX::SONTAKKEFri Oct 29 1993 16:456
238.302SNKERZ::SOTTILEGet on Your Bikes and RideFri Oct 29 1993 17:074
238.303As-is car is cheaperSOLVIT::NNGUYENFri Oct 29 1993 17:0915
238.304Guard your checkbook.TEKVAX::KOPECpersistent objectMon Nov 01 1993 11:5813
238.305Balance shaft alignment?CONSLT::MCBRIDEFlick of my BIC Scarecrow?Mon Nov 01 1993 13:004
238.306Belt is good?SOLVIT::NNGUYENMon Nov 01 1993 15:3520
238.307Free-running vs. interference engineSOLVIT::NNGUYENMon Nov 01 1993 16:2313
238.308How to find out if you have an interference engine or notCSLALL::NASEAM::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksMon Nov 01 1993 16:364
238.309It's the harmonic balance shaft!SOLVIT::NNGUYENMon Nov 01 1993 16:419
238.310Work done, fix problem!SOLVIT::NNGUYENWed Nov 03 1993 13:207
238.311new Mopar engines may valve-crash..TEKVAX::KOPECYou have left basic servicesFri Sep 23 1994 09:3111
238.312Nova belt/damage riskSMURF::BURNSMon Nov 07 1994 16:3120
238.313WLDBIL::KILGOREHelp! Stuck inside looking glass!Mon Nov 07 1994 17:575
238.314LEFTY::CWILLIAMSCD or not CD, that's the questionMon Nov 07 1994 18:156
238.315Honda Accord: pulley bolt rev. thread?ZENDIA::FERGUSONSplit open and Melt!Fri May 05 1995 13:0412
238.316Air power ...LANDO::OLSONFri May 05 1995 13:5013
238.317CONSLT::MCBRIDEReformatted to fit your screenFri May 05 1995 13:557
238.318Crank will hardly moveNASEAM::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksFri May 05 1995 14:039
238.319Or use a rope lock2388::MTAYLORNot powered by Zima(tm)Mon May 08 1995 19:019
238.320Demand better...43GMC::KEITHDr. DeuceWed May 10 1995 10:1622
238.321depends on your target..TEKVAX::KOPECwe're gonna need another Timmy!Wed May 10 1995 12:329
238.322LANDO::OLSONWed May 10 1995 12:5618
238.323If belts are the answer, the questions must be stupidDPDMAI::EYSTERLivin' on refried dreams...Wed May 10 1995 13:0130
238.324BIGQ::SILVADiabloWed May 10 1995 13:014
238.325DPDMAI::EYSTERLivin' on refried dreams...Wed May 10 1995 13:031
238.326Gear driven cams are still widely usedNASEAM::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksWed May 10 1995 14:227
238.327AIMTEC::BURDEN_DA bear in his natural habitatWed May 10 1995 15:447
238.32843GMC::KEITHDr. DeuceWed May 10 1995 14:4735
238.3291990 Shadow Timing BeltMSE1::OBRINGERWed Aug 02 1995 13:226
238.330But how can you tell?AWECIM::MCMAHONLiving in the owe-zoneTue Aug 15 1995 13:3427
238.33143GMC::KEITHDr. DeuceTue Aug 15 1995 13:465
238.332what's it sound like?NASEAM::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksTue Aug 15 1995 14:4317
238.333Can't tell if it's turning over fasterAWECIM::MCMAHONLiving in the owe-zoneTue Aug 15 1995 14:525
238.334LANDO::OLSONTue Aug 15 1995 15:0816
238.335Hafta know what you're listening forNASEAM::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksTue Aug 15 1995 16:0010
238.336It's the timing belt alrightAWECIM::MCMAHONLiving in the owe-zoneTue Aug 15 1995 16:318
238.337LANDO::OLSONTue Aug 15 1995 16:532
238.338175 ?NASEAM::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksTue Aug 15 1995 18:245
238.339TROOA::DCHENGWed Aug 16 1995 21:0013
238.340Next one at 210K miles!AWECIM::MCMAHONLiving in the owe-zoneThu Aug 17 1995 16:401
238.341Wait'll it breaks! (as long as you've got towing)LANDO::OLSONThu Aug 17 1995 18:135
238.342BUSY::SLABOUNTYHoly rusted metal, Batman!Thu Aug 17 1995 19:114
238.343Didn't buy it myself. DEC wrented itNASEAM::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksThu Aug 17 1995 20:518
238.344Engine Characteristics ListMKOTS1::LADEWFri Aug 18 1995 11:2911
238.345its here nowBIGQ::HAWKEFri Aug 18 1995 12:061
238.346Thanks Much!MKOTS1::LADEWFri Aug 18 1995 14:153
238.347APACHE::KEITHDr. DeuceFri Aug 18 1995 17:096
238.349 Pushing my luck?TRACTR::MACDONALD_Beverybody knows this is nowhereThu Nov 16 1995 19:029
238.350V-6 ?NASEAM::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksThu Nov 16 1995 19:452
238.3514 banger too?MKOTS3::BEAUDET_TTom BeaudetFri Nov 17 1995 16:084
238.352No, rubber beltEMMFG::THOMSFri Nov 17 1995 16:103
238.353USCTR1::STUARTI drive route zooMon Nov 20 1995 15:058
238.354couple last ???sTRACTR::MACDONALD_Beverybody knows this is nowhereMon Nov 20 1995 18:517
238.356DakotaUSDEV::CLEMENTSmells like NirvanaTue Nov 21 1995 11:044
238.357check it outHPCGRP::BURTONDIGITAL INTERNAL USE ONLYTue Nov 21 1995 11:264
238.358costs $NASEAM::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksTue Nov 21 1995 14:055
238.35986 Honda Accord-Broken Timing Belt-Options?NETRIX::"gandhi@dechub.lkg.dec.com"Nilesh GandhiMon Dec 11 1995 19:1946
238.360it WILL have bent valves if it's an interference-typeNASEAM::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksMon Dec 11 1995 19:3420
238.361Simple CheckHPCGRP::BURTONDIGITAL INTERNAL USE ONLYTue Dec 12 1995 09:2250
238.362May be worth it, may not ...LANDO::OLSONTue Dec 12 1995 11:0822
238.363compression test with broken timing beltSTARCH::HAGERMANFlames to /dev/nullTue Dec 12 1995 11:4817
238.364Recondition the head/valve train or junk the thingVMSNET::M_MACIOLEKFour54 Camaro/Only way to flyTue Dec 12 1995 12:5130
238.365get that piston at the top and HOLD IT THERENASEAM::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksTue Dec 12 1995 14:0131
238.366HPCGRP::BURTONDIGITAL INTERNAL USE ONLYTue Dec 12 1995 14:2310
238.367CSC32::J_KALINOWSKIForget NAM?....NEVER!Tue Dec 12 1995 14:568
238.368Ya GOTTA be kidding!NASEAM::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksTue Dec 12 1995 15:2612
238.369CSC32::J_KALINOWSKIForget NAM?....NEVER!Tue Dec 12 1995 16:168
238.370as if it makes any differenceSTARCH::HAGERMANFlames to /dev/nullWed Dec 13 1995 16:0710
238.371think about it...CSC32::J_KALINOWSKIForget NAM?....NEVER!Wed Dec 13 1995 16:4412
238.372Thanks/Following-upNETRIX::"gandhi@dechub.lkg.dec.com"Nilesh GandhiWed Mar 20 1996 19:5318
238.373ANGST::BURTONJim Burton, DTN 381-0272Thu Mar 21 1996 09:266
238.374It can also tell you what not to bother fixing...SMURF::STRANGESteve Strange:Digital UNIX, DCE DFSThu Mar 21 1996 12:2212
238.375Just make sure it's not impacting other systemsVMSNET::M_MACIOLEKFour54 Camaro/Only way to flyThu Mar 21 1996 14:2412
238.376some fixes are un necessaryNASEAM::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksThu Mar 21 1996 14:3724
238.377LABC::RUThu Mar 13 1997 17:2610
    
    I'd like to replace the timing belt on my 89 Caravan with 80k mikes.
    Do you think dealer will do better job with better part than the
    average garage?  The dealer job cost $450 compared to others cost
    $150-$200.  Also the average garage garantee only 6 months.
    
    
    Thanks
    
    Jason
238.378BUSY::SLABDon't drink the (toilet) waterThu Mar 13 1997 17:383
    
    	I think you have a chain and not a belt.
    
238.379LABC::RUThu Mar 13 1997 18:086
    
    Are you sure?  I have Chrysler 6 cylinder engine.
    The garage told me I should change the belt.
    
    
    Jason
238.380KWLITY::SUTERand now for something you'll really like!Thu Mar 13 1997 18:1014
>                        <<< Note 238.377 by LABC::RU >>>
>
>    
>    I'd like to replace the timing belt on my 89 Caravan with 80k mikes.
>    Do you think dealer will do better job with better part than the
>    average garage?  The dealer job cost $450 compared to others cost
>    $150-$200.  Also the average garage garantee only 6 months.
 
	If it's a 3.0 liter, it's a belt! I'd certainly opt for the
150-200 at the local garage. It's not a *difficult* or *tricky* task.
It's just tedious... Any semi-skilled mechanic can perform it successfully.

Rick

238.381LABC::RUMon Mar 17 1997 16:3013
    
    I got the timing belt changed for $250.  Sorry for the wrong info.
    I inspected the old timing belt, it is in perfect condition.
    Also the garage told me that there is oil leak at crank and cam
    seal.  They said it probably will leak into timing belt and cause
    it to slip.  I didn't agree the $100 fix they quote because I don't
    know if this place called "Econo Lub" in Cal. is skilled enough to do
    the job.
    
    Anyone know if this really will cause problem in the future.
    
    Jason
    
238.382BUSY::SLABA swift kick in the butt - $1Mon Mar 17 1997 16:379
    
    	Someone correct me if I'm wrong [yet again 8^)], but why would oil
    	on a timing belt cause it to slip?  I mean, we're not talking about
    	a rubber band on a pulley here ... we're talking about a keyed belt
    	on a similarly-keyed pulley.
    
    	Oil should help more than hurt, since it will keep the belt lub-
    	ricated and reduce the possibility of drying/cracking over time.
    
238.383Leaks are not goodMILKWY::UTTLEYIt won't mean a thing in 100 yearsMon Mar 17 1997 17:028
    On most timing belt equipped engines, the BACK (smooth) side of the
    belt drives the water pump.  This is where slippage could become a
    problem.  Oil leaking onto a spinning belt gets flung around and just
    makes a real mess inside the cover, and eventually starts to leak
    out the bottom.  I had to clean one up with a leaky camshaft seal.
    It was no big deal changing the seal once the belt is off, but if you
    already paid somebody $200. to change the belt, it is a little bit
    late.
238.384BUSY::SLABA thousand pints of liteMon Mar 17 1997 17:096
    
    	RE: .381
    
    	Yes, but as far as .381 is concerned, the timing belt could slip
    	because of the oil drip.  That's what I was questioning.