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Conference vmsnet::car$note:carbuffs

Title:Carbuffs
Moderator:DASXPS::NASEAM::READIO
Created:Tue Dec 13 1988
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:632
Total number of notes:88145

60.0. "Oldsmobile Note" by ACCARS::ALDRICH () Fri May 12 1989 01:39

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60.1Celebration time????BSHOP::GERRYWed Sep 13 1989 11:5314
60.2Olds...ForeverCHOTI::GABRIELITue Sep 26 1989 14:4217
60.3Rochester 'Tri-Jet'? Just don't sound right! :-)ANT::HHARDMANMusic is the doctor!Tue Sep 26 1989 14:584
60.4oopsCHOTI::GABRIELITue Sep 26 1989 15:053
60.5maybe skip knowsSTROKR::DEHAHNTue Sep 26 1989 16:536
60.6Holley and maybe othersSALEM::DWATKINSWhat do we do now?Tue Sep 26 1989 16:555
60.7All 3 were primary,no secondariesBOMBE::CARLSONDave CarlsonTue Sep 26 1989 17:057
60.8RE: 3 bbl Holley..ESDNI4::FARRELLBlack Pearl Express Trucking, LTD.Tue Sep 26 1989 23:1611
60.9SETH::POWISWed Sep 27 1989 14:384
60.10VCSESU::COOKCarl Palmer in disguiseWed Sep 27 1989 16:307
60.11More on three barrelsVCSESU::COOKCarl Palmer in disguiseWed Sep 27 1989 16:307
60.12My 'Super Six' is really a 'Sick Five'. :-)ANT::HHARDMANMusic is the doctor!Wed Sep 27 1989 16:5113
60.1360's, 70'sVCSESU::COOKCarl Palmer in disguiseWed Sep 27 1989 17:357
60.14Dependability of a 1982 Cutlass Siera (Brougham)MEMIT::SULLIVANFri Jan 25 1991 10:176
60.15FSDB47::FEINSMITHFri Jan 25 1991 10:557
60.16digital dash problemCTHQ1::LANGLOISCT Data Networks/TAY2-1Thu May 09 1991 14:4413
60.17Temperature sensor problemROYALT::HARPERWed May 15 1991 11:3916
60.18DIR/TITLE="Cool"MVDS01::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksWed May 15 1991 11:466
60.19ALLVAX::DUNTONFrankly my dear.....Fri Aug 30 1991 12:2617
60.20403L - reminds me of the old days !?!AKOFIN::ANDERSSONWed Sep 04 1991 15:3415
60.21DELTA 88 TAILLIGHTS - 1985CNTROL::AMOSFri Sep 13 1991 16:393
60.22Take the trunk apartLEDS::LEWICKEMy other vehicle is a CaterpillarFri Sep 13 1991 18:045
60.23Not for the faint of heart or impoverished.....ZENDIA::CHASEBruce Chase, Suffering thru MASS hysteriaMon Sep 16 1991 10:517
60.24QUARK::LIONELFree advice is worth every centMon Sep 16 1991 11:356
60.25HelpCSLALL::ONEILLThu Sep 19 1991 12:3013
60.26MLCSSE::MILLERThu Sep 19 1991 12:4011
60.27Timing check AKOFIN::ANDERSSONThu Sep 19 1991 13:564
60.28I should mentionCSLALL::ONEILLThu Sep 19 1991 14:278
60.29NOVA::ASCHNEIDERAndy Schneider - DTN 264-5515Thu Sep 19 1991 15:2111
60.30AIAG::WRIGHTChildren - Best served slow roasted with a side of friesThu Sep 19 1991 16:4018
60.31MANY POSSABLE CAUSESDELNI::PILLIVANTFri Sep 20 1991 12:1824
60.32For very few $$$...GIAMEM::MUMFORDDick Mumford, DTN 244-7809Fri Sep 20 1991 14:342
60.33LEDS::LEWICKEMy other vehicle is a CaterpillarFri Sep 20 1991 14:4515
60.34Whole elctrical system???GIAMEM::MUMFORDDick Mumford, DTN 244-7809Fri Sep 20 1991 14:504
60.35If you don't know what was wrong, you didn't fix it.LEDS::LEWICKEMy other vehicle is a CaterpillarFri Sep 20 1991 15:319
60.36Point...GIAMEM::MUMFORDDick Mumford, DTN 244-7809Fri Sep 20 1991 16:327
60.37Another Start problemAUNTB::FLACKEnter catchy name hereFri Sep 20 1991 17:2813
60.38Low maint does not equal no maint or water.CSC32::D_ROYERToo happy being me to be BLUE!Fri Sep 20 1991 18:589
60.39thinking of building 1 w/OEM #'sALLVAX::DUNTONFrankly my dear.....Fri Oct 25 1991 17:5114
60.40GWYNED::BURTONMon Oct 28 1991 09:4626
60.41If memory serves.......SANTEE::AUGENSTEINMon Oct 28 1991 11:0412
60.42want to do it *right* this timeALLVAX::DUNTONFrankly my dear.....Tue Oct 29 1991 10:0918
60.43RAMROD 350ESKIMO::MANUELEFri Nov 01 1991 06:426
60.44Dashboard LightsBUSY::CLEMENTI've fallen and I can't shutupMon Nov 18 1991 12:4913
60.45fuse keeps burning outBUSY::CLEMENTHey, your pretty good... NOT!Mon Dec 02 1991 14:1224
60.46A couple of things to look forMVDS02::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksMon Dec 02 1991 14:2016
60.47I will give it a shot...BUSY::CLEMENTHey, your pretty good... NOT!Tue Dec 03 1991 11:079
60.48It's a bummer either way you do itMVDS00::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksTue Dec 03 1991 12:0828
60.49My total hack job...BUSY::CLEMENTHey, your pretty good... NOT!Tue Dec 03 1991 13:3442
60.50GM headlight switch diagramMVDS02::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksWed Dec 04 1991 14:0915
60.51Cutlass Ciera....VAXWRK::SWARDCommon sense is not that commonTue Dec 10 1991 15:3320
60.52BUSY::SLABOUNTYHereComesTrouble&ItLooksLikeFunTue Dec 10 1991 17:2511
60.53It's a sixVAXWRK::SWARDCommon sense is not that commonTue Dec 10 1991 17:388
60.54shop till you drop..?ARCHER::DUNTONTue Dec 10 1991 17:465
60.55SoldLEDS::LEWICKEMy other vehicle is a CaterpillarTue Dec 10 1991 17:503
60.56found a live one...BUSY::CLEMENTHey, your pretty good... NOT!Mon Dec 16 1991 12:1738
60.57ACHIEVA DNEAST::STEVENS_JIMFri Feb 14 1992 17:0911
60.58SASE::SZABOIt's the New Mother Nature taking overFri Feb 14 1992 17:2913
60.59SASE::SZABOIt's the New Mother Nature taking overFri Feb 14 1992 17:336
60.60Now they will have to settle for Acura DifferntiaHELIX::SONTAKKEMon Feb 17 1992 11:218
60.61standard Quad 4 is 160 HP...CTHQ1::LANGLOISEASYnetFri Feb 21 1992 09:436
60.62The SCX is 190 HPSTEAD::PATTERSONFri Feb 21 1992 10:327
60.63NAPIER::MCAFEESteve McAfeeFri Feb 21 1992 18:463
60.64Olds 307 question ?????SALEM::PAPPALARDOWed Feb 26 1992 18:4913
60.65Get on the tele..KAHALA::DUNTONThu Feb 27 1992 10:517
60.66May only need a cam and a couple of liftersTROOA::DPURDIEThu Feb 27 1992 11:517
60.67NOVA::HSUTue Mar 03 1992 14:4118
60.68DELNI::SMCCONNELLNext year, in JERUSALEM!Mon Mar 23 1992 17:2811
60.69I had good luckALLVAX::DUNTONFrankly my dear.....Tue Mar 24 1992 11:2913
60.70301 vs 307BUSY::CLEMENTI'm too sexy for my VT340Tue Mar 24 1992 11:3415
60.71SOLVIT::THOMSRoss 285-3151Tue Mar 24 1992 12:064
60.72Thanks, and...DELNI::SMCCONNELLNext year, in JERUSALEM!Tue Mar 24 1992 14:133
60.73NO PROBLEMWMOIS::FULLAM_CTue Mar 24 1992 14:213
60.74Mines greatFDCV07::AUDINOzingTue Mar 24 1992 15:0010
60.75Enjoying the Olds (GREAT engine), but....DELNI::SMCCONNELLNext year, in JERUSALEM!Tue Apr 14 1992 18:0146
60.76Not too much of a job.WFOV11::KOEHLERWho turned off the Tunnel light?Wed Apr 15 1992 13:0810
60.77yISLNDS::SPINETTOWed May 20 1992 12:188
60.78MSDOA::BEAZLEYWed May 20 1992 22:5314
60.79re: 1987 Olds 98...CTHQ3::LANGLOISEASYnetThu Jun 04 1992 15:0735
60.80Car And Dealer ProblemsLMOADM::SULLIVANThu Sep 17 1992 10:2618
60.81Give it Back!COMET::BARRIANOchoke me in the shallow water...Thu Sep 17 1992 12:0916
60.82Dont waitCSC32::R_HARVEYYoiks and AwayThu Sep 17 1992 12:418
60.82Be InsistentMIMS::STEFFENSEN_KThu Sep 17 1992 18:4214
60.83LEDS::SIMARDjust in time.....Fri Sep 18 1992 15:447
60.84Olds Cutlass SupremeLMOADM::SULLIVANMon Dec 07 1992 16:0211
60.85Olds Cutlass Supreme '89 3.1 V6MEMORY::LAVELLEFri Jan 08 1993 15:3312
60.86Held up wellMIMS::STEFFENSEN_KHead for the hillsFri Jan 08 1993 17:289
60.88Thunderbird NoteDLO03::AMIDONTue Jan 12 1993 17:487
60.89TURBO-COUPE ONLY PLEASEDLO03::AMIDONTue Jan 12 1993 19:592
60.87someone should reverse engineer these and sell 'emHDLITE::ZARLENGAMichael Zarlenga, Alpha P/PEGWed Jan 13 1993 22:153
60.90SQUEEK FIXESDLO04::AMIDONMon Jan 18 1993 14:1413
60.91TIRE RECOMMENDATIONSDLO04::AMIDONThu Jan 28 1993 15:138
60.92It's only moneyXFORMR::STUFri Jan 29 1993 17:466
60.92WMOIS::CORMIER_PLife is Better on a ShovelheadMon Feb 08 1993 17:366
60.93HDLITE::ZARLENGAMichael Zarlenga, MRO AXP BPDATue Oct 19 1993 13:094
60.94OCTAVE::VIGNEAULTJava-ManTue Oct 19 1993 13:268
60.95Oct or Nov issueNYOS02::SUENWed Oct 20 1993 12:262
60.96He left is terminal logged in!!HELIX::SONTAKKEWed Oct 20 1993 14:553
60.97HDLITE::ZARLENGAMichael Zarlenga, MRO AXP BPDAFri Oct 22 1993 16:196
60.98Why???HELIX::SONTAKKEMon Oct 25 1993 11:107
60.99duhHDLITE::ZARLENGAMichael Zarlenga, MRO AXP BPDAWed Oct 27 1993 16:154
60.100shades of /prc and the AcclaimHELIX::SONTAKKEThu Oct 28 1993 13:241
60.101KDX200::COOPERThere's a moon in the sky!Fri Oct 29 1993 19:338
60.102Ordering spare parts from the US?EEMELI::KALINOff course, of courseTue Nov 30 1993 04:2518
60.103Dealerships don't carry parts on inventory after 9 yearsNASEAM::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksTue Nov 30 1993 11:5030
60.104I'll be back about the spare partsEEMELI::KALINOff course, of courseWed Dec 01 1993 04:2512
60.105Older engine designationNASEAM::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksWed Dec 01 1993 12:361
60.106The part numbers are supposed to be validEEMELI::KALINOff course, of courseFri Dec 03 1993 09:5311
60.107HDLITE::ZARLENGAMichael Zarlenga, MRO AXP BPDAThu Dec 09 1993 12:1519
60.108Had great service from GM's myself!USHS01::HARDMANMassive Action = Massive ResultsThu Dec 09 1993 13:3730
60.109Coulda fooled meLEDS::LEWICKESerfs don't own assault weaponsThu Dec 09 1993 14:025
60.110HDLITE::ZARLENGAMichael Zarlenga, MRO AXP BPDAThu Dec 09 1993 14:454
60.111Don't ya just HATE generalizations??WILBRY::ASCHNEIDERAndy Schneider - DTN 381-1696Thu Dec 09 1993 15:344
60.113440-T4???KEPNUT::HOLLANDJoel's Gone!!Thu Dec 09 1993 23:5719
60.114The Official Dash Removal TopicCAPNET::PJOHNSONSun Apr 03 1994 19:4316
60.115Getting the panel off is fun, too w/ those little plastic fastenersNASEAM::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksMon Apr 04 1994 13:1423
60.116BUSY::BUSY::SLABOUNTYIs this p_n great or what?Tue Jul 12 1994 10:418
60.117Mid-sized luxury carWILBRY::ASCHNEIDERAndy Schneider - DTN 381-1696Tue Jul 12 1994 13:3614
60.118water pump replacemntCSLALL::SANTIAGO_HAFri Aug 05 1994 17:5111
60.1191993?MIMS::HOOD_RFri Aug 12 1994 12:5218
60.120Timing belt or chain??WILBRY::ASCHNEIDERAndy Schneider - DTN 381-1696Fri Aug 12 1994 12:5814
60.121water pump CSLALL::SANTIAGO_HATue Aug 16 1994 14:0812
60.122No bleeder screws?CXDOCS::HELMREICHSteveWed Aug 24 1994 14:2112
60.123Pre-owned/pre-broken?LEDS::LEWICKEFOR CONGRESS!!! (again)Wed Aug 24 1994 14:423
60.124HmmCXDOCS::HELMREICHSteveWed Aug 24 1994 20:1812
60.125BUSY::FISED::SLABOUNTYThailboat!!Thu Dec 01 1994 11:2010
60.126oldsmobile TORONADOMROA::DSULLIVANThu Jan 04 1996 15:3323
60.127'tain't no classic, just a downsized luxo-boatNASEAM::READIOA Smith & Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksWed Jan 04 1995 16:0231
60.128BUSY::SLABOUNTYTrouble with a capital 'T'Wed Jan 04 1995 17:537
60.129toro 2MROA::DSULLIVANThu Jan 05 1995 16:5921
60.130BUSY::SLABOUNTYTrouble with a capital 'T'Thu Jan 05 1995 17:5811
60.131Toro huntingMROA::DSULLIVANMon Jan 09 1995 13:3117
60.132BUSY::SLABOUNTYTrouble with a capital 'T'Mon Jan 09 1995 14:138
60.133Terfeo > ToronadoMROA::DSULLIVANTue Jan 10 1995 12:4421
60.134Int.dig.dash/CierraOTOOA::MONAHANThu Nov 02 1995 14:5319
60.135replace with factory rebuild, I believeZEKE::ASCHNEIDERAndy Schneider - DTN 381-1696Thu Nov 02 1995 15:0118
60.136LEFTY::CWILLIAMSCD or not CD, that's the questionThu Nov 02 1995 15:0217
60.137check the groundingCVG::CHENGFri Nov 03 1995 11:135
60.138Jeez! The whole thing's one unit!XCUSME::DIMEOTue Nov 07 1995 18:3717
60.139I give up.OTOOA::MONAHANWed Nov 08 1995 14:448
60.140Olds 4-4-2NETRIX::"zalman@mko.dec.com"H. ZalmanThu Nov 16 1995 16:2514
60.141Mystery leak and squealNEWVAX::PAVLICEKZot, the Ethical HackerMon Nov 27 1995 17:3443
60.142from the a/c?HPCGRP::BURTONDIGITAL INTERNAL USE ONLYMon Nov 27 1995 17:533
60.143CONSLT::MCBRIDEReformatted to fit your screenMon Nov 27 1995 17:535
60.144BUSY::SLABOUNTYTo the Batmobile ... let's go!!!Mon Nov 27 1995 18:203
60.145Doesn't look like brake fluidNEWVAX::PAVLICEKZot, the Ethical HackerTue Nov 28 1995 10:375
60.146or a really talented dogMAY15::CARLSONDaveTue Nov 28 1995 10:5715
60.147LANDO::OLSONTue Nov 28 1995 11:373
60.148mice been drinking too much beer.BABAGI::VIDIOT::PATENAUDEPinball, PC's, Storage an more...Tue Nov 28 1995 11:434
60.149Looks to be antifreezeNEWVAX::PAVLICEKZot, the Ethical HackerTue Nov 28 1995 15:1426
60.150Happened to me last yearLANDO::OLSONTue Nov 28 1995 15:295
60.151BABAGI::VIDIOT::PATENAUDEPinball, PC's, Storage an more...Tue Nov 28 1995 15:4611
60.152antifreeze leak after timing chain repairTLE::WENDYL::BLATTMon Dec 04 1995 16:4225
60.153It was the water pumpNEWVAX::PAVLICEKZot, the Ethical HackerMon Dec 11 1995 02:4739
60.154lemme guess, then the mechanic shrugged...ASOLOK::BELKINNothin' left to do but :-) :-) :-)Mon Dec 11 1995 16:238
60.155hmmm...BABAGI::VIDIOT::PATENAUDEPinball, PC's, Storage an more...Mon Dec 11 1995 17:4014
60.156NEWVAX::PAVLICEKZot, the Ethical HackerMon Dec 11 1995 19:2111
60.157A little late, but...NEWVAX::PAVLICEKZot, the Ethical HackerMon Dec 11 1995 19:4717
60.158BABAGI::VIDIOT::PATENAUDEPinball, PC's, Storage an more...Tue Dec 12 1995 12:265
60.159UpdateTLE::WENDYL::BLATTTue Dec 12 1995 16:5129
60.160NEWVAX::PAVLICEKZot, the Ethical HackerTue Dec 12 1995 19:3315
60.161For <$16, it wasn't worth it.FOUNDR::DODIERSingle Income, Clan'o KidsWed Dec 13 1995 16:247
60.162Not what I expect from a new carREGENT::WOODWARDI'll put this moment...hereThu Jan 25 1996 10:0416
60.163PROXY::ALLENIt's a nice snowy winter!Tue Feb 06 1996 19:4116
60.164Calais stalls after highway drivingNEWVAX::PAVLICEKZot, the Ethical HackerThu Mar 14 1996 03:1033
60.165Fuel delivery/idle speed/poor gas/plug wires no goodVMSNET::M_MACIOLEKFour54 Camaro/Only way to flyThu Mar 14 1996 10:0810
60.166NEWVAX::PAVLICEKZot, the Ethical HackerThu Mar 14 1996 11:5820
60.167VMSNET::M_MACIOLEKFour54 Camaro/Only way to flyThu Mar 14 1996 13:2417
60.168Puzzling indeedNEWVAX::PAVLICEKZot, the Ethical HackerThu Mar 14 1996 09:1645
60.1692 zero-cost tests you can tryBIRDIE::MELLORpredict..failure..AE-35 unitThu Mar 14 1996 11:4044
60.170Paging Sherlock Holmes...NEWVAX::PAVLICEKZot, the Ethical HackerThu Mar 14 1996 13:2842
60.171NEWVAX::PAVLICEKZot, the Ethical HackerSat Mar 16 1996 23:1820
60.172mixture's too fatNASEAM::READIOA Smith &amp; Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksMon Mar 18 1996 13:0225
60.173Tranny? Been There, Done That!CHIPS::LEIBRANDTMon Mar 18 1996 13:0325
60.174What is the next step?NEWVAX::PAVLICEKZot, the Ethical HackerMon Mar 18 1996 21:4464
60.175like the choke's closed in a carb'd vehicleNASEAM::READIOA Smith &amp; Wesson beats four aces, Tow trucks beat Chapman LocksTue Mar 19 1996 13:4442
60.176NEWVAX::PAVLICEKZot, the Ethical HackerTue Mar 19 1996 23:0814
60.177CSC32::J_KALINOWSKIForget NAM?....NEVER!Wed Mar 20 1996 13:429
60.178How to fix too-slow idle speed?IROCZ::MORRISONBob M. LKG1-3/A11 226-7570Tue Jul 02 1996 20:0010
60.179vacuum leak or plugged filter?VMSNET::M_MACIOLEKFour54 Camaro/Only way to flyWed Jul 03 1996 08:2314
60.180IROCZ::MORRISONBob M. LKG1-3/A11 226-7570Wed Jul 03 1996 14:582
60.181Oldsmobile vs Chevy & PontiacMPGS::WENTWORTHMon Dec 09 1996 10:1423
60.182QUARK::LIONELFree advice is worth every centMon Dec 09 1996 13:1611
60.183Trim, style, power trainVMSNET::M_MACIOLEKFour54 Camaro/Only way to flyTue Dec 10 1996 12:4214
60.184CONSLT::MCBRIDEIdleness, the holiday of foolsTue Dec 10 1996 13:562
60.185QUAKKS::BURTONJim Burton, DTN 381-0272Tue Dec 10 1996 14:067
60.1862 cents...LEDDEV::DELMONICOJim --&lt;Philippians 4:4-7&gt;--Tue Dec 10 1996 15:3014
60.187VMSNET::M_MACIOLEKFour54 Camaro/Only way to flyTue Dec 10 1996 16:3710
60.188CSC32::J_KALINOWSKIForget NAM?....NEVER!Tue Dec 10 1996 16:569
60.189What the difference REALLY isNETCAD::HENDERSONFri Dec 13 1996 16:5017
60.190good bookRHETT::STDBKR::BurdenKeep Cool with CoolidgeFri Dec 13 1996 18:156
60.191MKOTS3::RAUHI survived the Cruel SpaFri Dec 13 1996 19:154
60.192PCBUOA::KRATZMon Dec 16 1996 15:512
60.193QUARK::LIONELFree advice is worth every centMon Dec 16 1996 16:124
60.194MKOTS3::RAUHI survived the Cruel SpaMon Dec 16 1996 16:563
60.195MKOTS3::RAUHI survived the Cruel SpaMon Dec 16 1996 17:017
60.196The monza (I mean firenza?) looks cute too. :^)VMSNET::M_MACIOLEKFour54 Camaro/Only way to flyMon Dec 16 1996 17:524
60.197BUSY::SLABCrazy Cooter comin' atcha!!Mon Dec 16 1996 18:137
60.198MKOTS3::RAUHI survived the Cruel SpaMon Dec 16 1996 18:182
60.199QUARK::LIONELFree advice is worth every centMon Dec 16 1996 19:2711
60.200btw, they're pretty rare...BIRDIE::POWISTue Dec 17 1996 11:135
60.201QUAKKS::BURTONJim Burton, DTN 381-0272Tue Dec 17 1996 12:058
60.202MKOTS3::RAUHI survived the Cruel SpaTue Dec 17 1996 12:1918
60.203Arcane Vega engine triviaBIRDIE::MELLORpredict..failure..AE-35 unitTue Dec 17 1996 16:3839
60.204BIRDIE::POWISTue Dec 17 1996 17:593
60.205Standup engineEMMFG::THOMSWed Dec 18 1996 10:1111
60.206MKOTS3::RAUHI survived the Cruel SpaWed Dec 18 1996 11:544
60.207QUARK::LIONELFree advice is worth every centWed Dec 18 1996 15:533
60.208Vega was a great car ...BRITE::FYFEUse it up, wear it out, make it do, or do without.Thu Dec 19 1996 13:3122
60.209MKOTS3::RAUHI survived the Cruel SpaThu Dec 19 1996 16:3310
60.210he said he greased a few palms to get it originallyCADSYS::SHEPARDOverwhelmed by trivialitiesThu Dec 19 1996 20:3217
60.211Too reliable to be accurately remembered?BIRDIE::MELLORpredict..failure..AE-35 unitSat Dec 21 1996 20:1637
60.212I had some experience with the ohc 6 as wellEMMFG::THOMSMon Dec 23 1996 11:5216
60.213APACHE::KEITHDr. DeuceTue Dec 24 1996 10:248
60.214MKOTS3::RAUHI survived the Cruel SpaThu Jan 02 1997 15:582