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Conference giadev::decstation

Title:DECstation PC Conference
Notice:register note 2, see notes 3 & 4
Moderator:TARKIN::LININD
Created:Tue Jan 10 1989
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:7470
Total number of notes:34994

7451.0. "WIN95 certified for XL SERVER 5133?" by VAXRIO::CUPOLILLO () Fri May 23 1997 19:47

    
        Hi,
    
        Are there any problems to run WIN95 in a DECpc XL SERVER 5133? I
    tried to found in the certification matrix if this system can run
    Winn95, but I was not able to find this information clearly.
    
        Thanks,
    
        Cupol
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7451.1TARKIN::LINBill LinFri May 23 1997 20:5910
    re: VAXRIO::CUPOLILLO
    
    According to the certification matrix on akin40.ako.dec.com, it would
    appear that none of the Prioris servers is certified on Windows 95. 
    This does not mean it cannot work; just that it is an unsupported
    configuration.
    
    Someone from Servers can outvote me.  ;-)
    
    /Bill
7451.2Correct again.PCBUOA::WHITECParrot_TrooperSun May 25 1997 12:055
    
    Would not do that Bill..... It's true.   After all, it's just NT4.0
    with a little less security!~?  ;^)
    
    Chet
7451.3We only "CERT" the major NOS'sPCBUOA::MCQUADEst*rs = 1x4x9Tue May 27 1997 15:0814
    
    	As usual..., Bill and Chet are right on target!
    
    	We do not certify "desktop OS's" on Servers!  I should qualify the
    term "desktop OS" as any "single CPU OS", for reference purposes.
    
    	For other testing purposes, I have run WFW and 95 across the board
    without any problems.  Your/Customers mileage may vary!
    
    	I don't think I follow the logic of running 95 on a Server...,
    other than on the low end, single CPU systems!
    
    
    McQ
7451.4LEFTY::CWILLIAMSCD or not CD, that's the questionTue May 27 1997 15:2417
    The basic logic is that they tend to be more available in-house... and
    usually have more expansion slots. Very useful for testing.
    
    I use server boxes for DVD testing - the assortment of PCI cards I need
    for the testing usually won't fit into a non-server PC. All of this has
    to be done on WIN95, not NT, as the drivers don't exist for NT yet.
    They also tend to have fewer embedded peripherals (Video, SCSI, etc),
    so the PNP logic works better.
    
    I've never had a problem with WIN95 on our Intel-based server boxes... 
    the most problems came from a Starion 960, which is -supposed- to 
    run WIN95. It totally confused WIN95's PnP when I tried to add in 
    video cards - the on board HW disables, but does not vanish, so WIN95
    configs it anyway!
    
    Chris
    
7451.5Tales from the front...BSS::PROCTOR_RPC....Politically CorruptTue May 27 1997 16:2332
    >  I don't think I follow the logic of running 95 on a Server...,
    >  other than on the low end, single CPU systems!
    
    My friend, let me introduce you to the wonderful, whacky world of...
    
    The Customer.
    
    This is a rare bird who confidently plugs a Win95 CD into an Alpha
    Workstation, and calls support 'cos it don't work.
    
    This bird also:
    
    	- puts the mouse on the floor, and wonders why the system doesn't 
    	  run too well when they "step on the pedal".
    
    	- uses the CD player for a coffee cup holder.
    
    	- pries all the keys off the keyboard, mixes them up, and calls
    	  support 'cos the keys aren't all unique, and the Customer doesn't
    	  know where they keys belong on the keyboard.
    
    	- plugs the mouse in the kb port, the kb in the mouse port, and
    	  calls support 'cos the machine don't work.
    
    	- drops the CPU on the floor (the whole desktop box) and calls 
    	  support to complain "that the box isn't very sturdy, and rattles
    	  when I shake it now".
    
    	- ...
    
    
    want more? stay tuned.
7451.6Point well taken!PCBUOA::MCQUADEst*rs = 1x4x9Tue May 27 1997 18:2212
    
    	-.4 & .5
    
    	Yes..., been there done that, I understand!
    
    	I was waxing philisophically!
    
    	It's not the first time I've heard "certified for Win95" for
    "Servers".
    
    
    	McQ