Conference hbahba::cam_sports

    	Me and some of the Unemployed (Denny, Chap, etc.) are going
    to the UMASS/DePaul on the 24th.  We're meeting somewhere near the
    Centrum prior to the game.  Once we decide where anybody going to
    the game can join us.
    
    				/Don

any objections to the Firehouse as the place to meet before the UMASS/Depaul
game?

mike

    What time is the game?
    
    NAZZ

    	Well then, how about the Firehouse around 12:00-12:30?
    
    				/Don

    Are we doing Patriot's Day thised year?
    

    Gee thanks Walt for voluntering to doing this again...
    
    Please send all mail to Royalt::Ashe with your ticket request..
    
    REK

    Did no such thing.  Going to a wedding that weekend, not even sure if
    I can make it....
    

    	Just a reminder to those going to the UMASS/DePaul game that
    we'll be at the Firehouse around 11:30.  Also we plan on going to
    the Magic Lantern for some post game festivities.
    
    				/Don

Would love to make it to the Firehouse, but it is way too early to
even think about.

The Crazy Met

    How wuzzit?
    

Well, folks, it is that time again, and no one has stepped up to answer
the call.

We all know that Hawk was joking when he said he would handle the Patriots
Day game.......


So, I'm sort of volunteering, but there is one condition.  I do not know
if the Ticket Office will take American Express.   If they do, I'll volunteer
to organize the Patriots Day game, and I'll print out the rules here.

If they don't take Amex, sorry, but someone else will have to do it.....


'Saw

    
    <set mode serious>
    
    There will NOT be a Patriots Day at Fenway Park this year unless
    somebody bellies up and volunteers.
    
    Since I'm not going, I really don't want to put in the effort for
    everybody else's enjoyment.  Sorry if that sounds cold but that's the
    way it is.
    
    maybe next time I'll do it but not this time.
    
    Kev
    

    
    WOW!  talk about notes collision and being of one mind!
    
    

>    WOW!  talk about notes collision and being of one mind!

That's a SCARY thought, Kev.


I'll do it, but only if they take Amex.  I don't think I've got the
room on my VISA after the Christmas bills.

I've got experience, having just done the hockey game, and I really
don't mind.   


I'd want the money up front, and I'd need to know what section that
it we go to.....



So, if ANYONE has the number of the box office (are tix on sale yet?)
or if anyone knows what they take for plastic, please let me know
in here or by mail.......


'Saw    
    

Okay.

It has been verified to me by another noter that the Red Sox ticket
office DOES take American Express.

Therefore, I WILL volunteer to do the Patriots Day game.  Look in this
topic for more info, which I'll put in ASAP.....


'Saw

    'saw, semd me your AMEX number and I'll call and find out.  
    
    brews, who can't go but wants to help.  8^)

    I'll be in ZKO, suffering from severe jet-lag, next Tues and Wed.  If'n
    any of you work there, let me know and I'll drop by and say 'hi'.
    
    Pete

Metz,

I am in MKO which is pretty close.

The Crazy Met

ps there is no good excuse for jet lag - jet lag is a state of mind.

Pete, I work in Maynard.  Wave to me when you fly over.  I'll look out the
window.

j.

    Sheeoot
    Only thing that flies over Maynard are crows congragatin' at the Bull
    at nacho time.
    
    Mike
    

OKAY, HERE'S THE **REAL** ***DEAL****  ON PATRIOTS DAY!


This is the official Patriots Day Red Sox Game ticket announcement.


April 19, 1993 is Patriot's Day.  I just checked with the Box Office and
there are plenty of Bleacher Seats available at $7 per ticket.


Here are the rules:


	1. If you want tickets, send me a check and enclose a
	   Self-Addressed Stamped Envelope.   No SASE, I'll tear
	   up the check.  I do not want to hand deliver tickets
	   at the Rat that morning.

  	   The cost is $7/ticket.


	2. As soon as the tickets arrive, I will send them out to you.


	3. Since I'm volunteering for this, I'll leave it up to
	   others of you to contact former noters no longer @ DEC.
	   (Kev, perhaps?)


My Address:

		Frank Way
		85 North Street
		Hebron CT 06248




Finally, I will accept any and all free beers for doing this for all
of you.


'Saw

re: .22

Sorry I meant Pete not Metz.

The Crazy Met

		DEADLINE FOR TICKET REQUESTS FOR PATRIOTS DAY

	
	The deadline to get your money and SASE to me for Patriots
	Day is Sunday, Feb 21, 1993.

	I will be ordering the tickets on Feb 22, 1993.


	I will NOT order tickets for which I have not been paid,
	i.e. no money in hand, no tickee for you.


If you have any questions, please let me know.  I'll be going for 
bleacher seats in the section that we usually sit in.


'Saw

re: Pats day game...

Thised year, if'n youse guys don't come out of the bar to cheer for me runin' 
the 'thon, I'll be wicked hurt.  And you all know how sensitive I am.

=Bob=

Nah, I handled the hockey game okay.

And besides, the last couple of years I've trusted other people to get
me the seat where i win the trip to Didneyworl'.

This year, if I don't win the trip, I have only myself to BLAM.....


'Saw

    
    	Hey j.  Can I buy your ticket again.  The other un-used one
    	hanging on my desk is getting lonely.  :^(
    
    Claybroon

    Jeff, you probably owe me a beer, doncha?  If you can get away, I could
    probably meet you in Maynahd Wed. night.  Send me mail if you want can
    make it.  I don't mind driving down south.
    
    TCM, if my lunch hour isn't already planned for me, I'll give you a 
    call, if you promise not to call me Metz 8^).
    
    Pete

If you think you can make Maynahd on Wednesday night, we should make a Bull
gathering.  I know I can make it.

j.

    Jeff and TCM,
    
    Yeah, I can make it.  Send me directions from Nashua and I can be there
    by about 5:30.  Mail 'em to DECWET::CROUCH.
    
    Later,
    Pete

Pete, 

	Get in your car.  Drive to Maynard.  Stop when you see the Bull.

j.

    j.
    
    Which Maynard, Da one in N.H or the one in mASS?
    
    

    Kev, go to sleep its past your bedtime :-)
    
    The Crazy Met
    

So, Pete, you are coming to da East Coast?

ZKO?

Let me know.

JD

    Hey, JD, try to keep up 8^).
    
    I'm here now.  I'm meeting TCM and Jeff tonight at the Bull.  It'd
    be great if you could join us.
    
    Anybody else is welcome, too. I'll even buy a couple of rounds, if
    that's any incentive to make it.
    
    Pete

If Mac is there I'll even buy his first drink for him; sort of owe it 
to him for bustin' his chops most of this week - well more for not
having those notes hidden than bustin' his chops.

The Crazy Met

    I'll take a raincheck.  I'm in training.  First official rugby practice
    is tomorrow night.

Just got mail from Denny. He will be at Da Bull tonight.

The Crazy Met

re: .42

Don't you need to also train for the after the game events??

The Crazy Met

    re:  .44
    
    I'm ahead of my training schedule in that department.  That's why I'll
    have to pass on tonight.

    Will any of the noter here be attending the Network Symposium in nashua
    nexted week?
    
    Dennis Faust
    

I put in for the boondoggle er' Symposium but my team elected a different 
person to attend this year. 

Jeff

I tried to sign up, but CGVAX2 is broken and mail isn't getting through.

    well we don't need much of an excuse for a get together. So if anyone
    is showing up for this, just post. Dennis, will you be in Nashua??
    
    The Crazy Met
    

    Yup... First one for me in 3 years...
    
    Dennis Faust
    

So, why not have a git together in da Nashua area?

JD

VERY IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT ABOUT PATRIOTS DAY.....


I was informed by some folks who have recently done the Pats Day thing
that getting tickets where we want them as late as the deadline I published
might be hard.

With that in mind, I'm pulling the deadline up one week.


PLEASE NOTE:  I WILL BE ORDERING TICKETS ON 2/15, **NOT** 2/22.


Please let me know ASAP if you want tickets and will not be able to
mail me a check and SASE before 2/15......


thank you,
'Saw

    If anyone would like to get together, suggest a place in the general
    area of Nashua. I have no idea what's in the area.
    
    Dennis Faust
    

JD,

Want to suggest a place??

I can make a get together on Monday or Wednesday.

The Crazy Met

    Is Chelmsford too far south?
    

Nashua is better. But I guess we could do the Ground Round in Chelmsford
which might convince some of you folks off of 495 to show up.

The Crazy Met

    Ground Round is doable.   There's what, D.B. Coopers right down
    the road from ZKO, other than that, I don't know a bunch of
    places.
    
    JD

    Just get me from a major spot that I can find in nashua and I'll be
    there. Also, let me know what night... I'll be checking in (no pun
    intended) from the hotel.
    
    Dennis Faust
    

I'll be in ZK for meetings Tuesday afternoon.  Let's make it then!

j.

    
    How about Tuesday night in Chelmsford. That should work for the
    Nashua/MKO folks, its on the way home for Jeff and myself. It is close
    enough to 495 for folks with offices off of 495. I can stay for a while
    that evening.
    
    Anyone have exact directions to the Ground Round? I know it is rt 3 S
    to exit 32, and then???
    
    The Crazy Met
    

    From the north, get off the 4/110 -Chelmsford exit (first exit after
    Rt.3)  Make a left, it will be on your right.
    
    From the south, get off the 110-Chelmsford exit, bear right, will be
    on your right.
    

re: .61

Walt, I assume your directions are coming up from 495, right??

Coming off rt. 3 how does one get there??

WHo is going to be there tomorrow night??

The Crazy Met

    rt. 3 to 495 South, first exit is 110-Chelmsford.
    

	If you are coming from the North, head south on Route 3, and take the

	Rte. 110 - Chelmsford exit - it's before you get to 495 interchange.
	Take a right at the bottom of the exit ramp - you will go by a
	Cinema on your left, the Chelmsford Mall on your left, and
	the Ground Round is on your left a little further up...

	Don't take the 110 - Lowell exit.

Ground Round sounds good.  I'll be there.  Who else?

JD

I'll be there. Denny sent mail. I assume Jeff Needle will show
up since he requested Tuesday night. Dennis Faust was the one
who started this all so I assume he will be there.

Kev, slasher, Karen, Hal ... how about it folks ?

The Crazy Met

What time is everyone planning to make it there?  I have a window between
5:00 and 6:30.  Dart nite doncha know.


Bill

probably 5PM and onwards. I know I need to leave between 6:30-7

The Crazy Met

early enough?? I'm sure other folks will stay past 6:30.

The Crazy Met

    
    Sorry folks but given the choice between a get together or free
    tickets to see the PC-SJU basketball game in Providence, well ......
    
    I remain,
    all bundled up and ready to GO!
    Kev
    

I'll be there - and when Jeff says what time he can make it,
I'll be sure to leave a few minutes before then ;-)

JD

btw meet at the lounge/bar section, not the restaurant. JD, I should
be there about 5:30.

The Crazy Met

Looks doubtful for my making it tonight.  Have a beer for me.

j.

    Sorry I cain't make it tonight, but by 5:00 I'll be on my way to 
    beautiful downtown Hartford for the Cel;tis-Bucks game, where they have 
    a real, honest-to-goodness Civic Center, not a 70 year old antique that
    will never get replaced as long as the politicians have their way.
    
    NAZZ

    I'm feeling a little under the weather, but if I can stick it out, I'll
    make an appearance.  It's on my way home...
    

Okay, people.....

Response to the Patriots Day game has been very light.   I've heard from
Slasher, Ninj, Dickster, A&W, and Tom Hill.   I'm waiting on their checks.

Please, if you want to go be sure to let me know!


'Saw

No report on lasted night's get together at the Grounded Rounded?

It was a rather sedate get together, as TCM, Dennis
Faust, myself, and later on, the Walt Ashe , showed
up.

Talked centered on baseball, SPORTS, and other
thangs.

A short get together, but it was good to meet Dennis.

JD

    Pretty good summary.  Pretty much what you would expect from either
    2 Knicks, 1 76er, 1 Pistons/76er (but Knicks in the 70's) or 1
    Eagles, 2 Giants and 1 Giant Sympathizer would be...  didn't really
    put Bird up on the ceiling there...
    
    Found tcm likes to leave pretty good tips... haha..
    
    -Walt
    

    I do commend the other on their honesty. Sorry to disappoint you
    but you were correct in assuming that I was not picking up
    the tab. This morning I was wondering where that $20 had disappered.
    
    The Crazy Met
    

Okay,  

AS of today I have not received one check, although several people have
mailed me to let me know it's on the way.

Here is what I have so far.  If you are interested in Patriots Day and
are not on this list, please send me vaxmail ASAP.


	Slasher		10 tickets
	'Saw		 4 tickets
	Jeff Needle	 ? tickets
	Tom Hill	 1 ticket
	Walt Ashe	 1 ticket
	J. Hendry	 2 tickets
	Dickster	 2 tickets


I need mail by the end of today if you want me to order you a ticket.....


'Saw

    Is Denny going?  or is that part of /Don's tix?  Cath?  Joanne?
    

    
    pretty sure he is 
    
    but of course
    
    <set mode Orson Wells>
    
    "...only the shadow knows..."
    
    I remain,
    Outa da loop of who is going!
    Kev
    

Here is the list, as it stands right now.  When I finish this list
I'm am going to make The Call:


	Slasher		10 tickets	PD
	Me		 4 tickets      PD
	Needle		 4 tickets
	T. Hill		 1 ticket       PD
	Walt		 1 ticket       PD
	J. Hendry	 2 tickets      PD
	Dickster	 2 tickets      PD
	D. Mayhew	 2 tickets
	TCM		 1 ticket
	A&W		 1 ticket
	M. Leary	 1 ticket       PD


That's 29 tix.  Hawk cannot make it....


'Saw

Well, I'll call tomorrow.  They must be closed for da holiday cause there
ain't no answer.....

'Saw

Okay, I just ordered the tickets.

We are in Section 41, Rows 23 and 24.  I ordered 33 tickets.
The list is as follows:


	Doda		2	
	Cathmeister     2
	Slasher	       10       PD
	Me		4       PD
	Needle		4
	T. Hill		1       PD
	Walt		1       PD
	J. Hendry	2       PD
	Dickster	2       PD
	Bubba		2
	TCM		1
	A&W		1
	M. Leary	1       PD


I have an account number with them.  If enough people buy me beers,
perhaps I can be persuaded to do TigerMania....


'Saw

    Cathmeister told me she wants to sit next to TcM!
    
    Seems she wants to bend his arm......
    
    ;^)
    
    I remain,
    thinking of Disney World!
    Kev
    

    I'll buy ya a beer if you do Tigermania...
    

>                            -< Give Frank a break. >-
>
>    I think Jeff should do the nexted Tigermania.  The first one went so
>    well.


Well, I have done the last two sports "outings" get togethers.


I think Jeff would do a great job with Tigermania -- as long as he
doesn't make us wear yarmulkes......


'Saw

Due to the recent bad news in the file, a few of us had a chance to get
together last evening at the OPP.

One of the things that came out of the get together was a suggestion that
we have semi-regular get-togethers (for no other reason than getting together).

I kind of like that idea.  In the past we've always seemed to need a reason
like someone leaving or someone being in from out of town.  Well, I think
it'd be cool if say every other month (or sooner or longer) we had
a get together at the OPP or some other central place just to have some
drinks and have some fun.

What do you think?


'Saw

    Okay, tomorrow night we'll have a get together at Max's and catch the
    Suns-Rockets game too.  Be there @7pm.

My group has a quarterly meeting - I don't see why the loonies shouldn't.

I'll be sure and make it if Mike H. comes to town.  As Hawk would say - I wanna 
party with you dude...

=Bob=

BTW - Thanks again for bringing the "family" together last night, Frank.

>I'll be sure and make it if Mike H. comes to town.  As Hawk would say - I wanna 
>party with you dude...

    Thanks Bob, I'm even more mischievous in person ;-)

    Max or Max II's?  I didn't think Mike would go to such a place.  I
    don't even think they have a dish, do they? (watch it)...
    

    	If I can drink free like I did last night, let's have one every
    week!
    
    				/Don

    Now who, in their right mind, would buy YOU a drink, SLasher????  But
    then again, who in here is in their right mind????
    
    (8^)*
    
    JaKe
    

    I'm talking about Max's Sports Bar in Glendale.

I think what I'll do is pick a date, and announce it.  It'll be at the
OPP after work.

I'll try to pick a different day of the week each time so that everyone
local has a chance to make it.

BTW, this in no way precludes the obligatory "Live At the OPP" when 
Jake is in town......8^)


'Saw

    too many el lay feigns hang out there, Mikey.

    
>>BTW, this in no way precludes the obligatory "Live At the OPP" when 
>>Jake is in town......8^)
    
    Gawd, I need a road trip.  If'n it hadn't been fer the snow falling,
    and having to drive 10-12 hours each way, I woulda accompanied all of
    ya lasted night.  I was set on making the trip, and heading back right
    after a cup of coffee or two at OPP, plus a box or three of NO-DOZE,
    but the weather was too fouled up between Pgh and Mass. to chance that
    650-700 miles each way within 24 hours.
    
    Re "Live at the OPP", we gots to find out what night the old
    farts(sorry Lee, no offense) are going to be there, ya know, the ones
    that sit around the piano and swoon over the jerk...er....guy playing,
    whilst singing as far out of tune as possible.  Maybe we'll have to
    join in and let them hear some REAL singers.
    
    
    I gots to set up a training trip SOON!!
    
    JaKe
    
    
    

    Please don't pick a night the Celtics are at the garden, so I cain 
    attend!
    
    Thanks.
    
    NAZZ

    
    Hey Jake, leave my soccer bashing buddy (/er) alone!  Whenever I'm out
    that way nexted, and if'n I can dump the customers who are usually if
    me, and if'n /er can make it, and if'n /er is thirsty, I'll buy him a
    beer (besides, I know he only likes the cheap stuff).
    
    brews

    	Thanks Brews, I think...  Hey NAZZ we'll schedule the next
    GitTogether sometimes during the NBA playoffs so we'll definitely
    know the Celtics will not be playing.
    
    				/Don

    Well Brews, are there any decent SPROTS bars at the AZ Center?

    Anyone have a schedule for the Providence Broons?  What about that?
    Catch a weekend game?  Or during the week, I don't care...
    

    Schedule one for 1995 - there won't be a Boston Garden - heh.
    
    btw 'Saw good job in making sure we all knew about Kev and were in some
    small way able to hopefully help.
    
    The Crayz Met
    

Thanks, TCM, but it really wasn't all that much that I did.  The "family"
should be commended for responding the way they did.

Next get together is definitely for a happier occasion!


'Saw

    You're cold, slasher!
    
    NAZZ

>                -< Celts turn it around - Parade In June! (tm) >-
    
    of what year?
    
    June is awfully hot for a parade in Phoenix.

Okay, I just received the tickets.



	Doda		2	
	Cathmeister     2	PD
	Slasher	       10       PD
	Me		4       PD
	Needle		4
	T. Hill		1       PD
	Walt		1       PD
	J. Hendry	2       PD
	Dickster	2       PD
	Bubba		2
	TCM		1       PD
	A&W		1       PD
	M. Leary	1       PD


I ain't sending out the ticks till I gets all da money.


'Saw

>>> I ain't sending out the ticks till I gets all da money.


 that should leave plenty of time for them to get lost.....
 
 ;^)

 ps. especially if Slasher has to wait for Dinz to pay him, before
     he pays you...

 mike 

>
> that should leave plenty of time for them to get lost.....
> 

Nope, I've got 'em safe and sound.  In fact I put them... I put them....
I put them, uh, um, er....  Well, as I was saying, they are safe...


> ps. especially if Slasher has to wait for Dinz to pay him, before
>     he pays you...

Don Slasher-leone paid me.  I hear that he's got a guy named Guido lookin'
for Dinz as we speak.....


'Saw

Anybody going to UNIform in San Fran? If so drop me a mail or stop by
the booth where I'll be demoing FullSail (the off-on-off-on again distributed
system management tool for UNIX)


Metz

Okay,

ON March 26, which is a Friday night, there is going to be a Get Together
at the OPP.  Figure 5:30 as the starting time.....  Usual place, usual
attire, usual everything.   Everyone is welcome.

All of yunz married guys, please try to get a KP.  If not, what good 
are you?

Please try to spread the word.....


The reason?  None, other than I think we should get together....


'Saw

re March 26th.

	Lessee, checkin the rather extensive social calendar....

	Yup, that evening is free!  Should I bring the Slim Whitman tunes?

Bill

>	Yup, that evening is free!  Should I bring the Slim Whitman tunes?

I'd prefer Boxcar Willie, but if you insist....8^)


'Saw

    	Hey Bill, just put a case of beer in the van and pick me up
    at work.
    
    				/Don

>    	Hey Bill, just put a case of beer in the van and pick me up
>    at work.
>    
>    				/Don


Don Slasher-leone orders his Capo to pick him up 'at dah office'....

This could be QUITE a get together....


'Saw

>>    	Hey Bill, just put a case of beer in the van and pick me up
>>    at work.
    
>>    				/Don

But /er, they don't sell Schaefer beer up in New Hampshire!

Bill

    	Yes they do Bill, that's where I buy it!
    
    				/Don

    Don't forget Round 3 of the NCAA's (sweet 16) is also that night.
    I should be attending to give you all some winners!!!
    
    Jimbo

>    Don't forget Round 3 of the NCAA's (sweet 16) is also that night.
>    I should be attending to give you all some winners!!!
>    
>    Jimbo

Kev was speculating on that yesterday afternoon on the phone.  

I'm sincerely hoping that the Kevmeister will be there to cut the cheese
for us this time!


'Saw

    Cervesa, Schaefer, esta mejor cuando tengo mas de una....
    
    As long as we can watch da games, I'll be there...
    

    	Let's not buy that yuppie brown beer this time though.  Let's
    get something good.
    
    				/Don

    "Let's get something good"???
    Why Slashmain, are you "retiring" agin?? 8^).
    
    Hey, beggars cain't be choosers. You sure you tain't a tad Scot??
    Muchos,
    MikeL
    

Hey, no one REQUIRES that we buy that brown stuff.  We can split it
up, no sweat.... 

Actually, you drank for FREE lasted time so kwityerbitchin....8^)


'Saw

>>Actually, you drank for FREE lasted time so kwityerbitchin....8^)
                          ^^^^
So how'd  dis happen??  Guess dat means da slashmeister is runnnin da tab den!

Billl

    	Hey I offered to pay but youse guyz were intimidated by my "power
    tie".
    
    				/Don

	Guess dat means you are takin care a da brewskis in da van!

	Billl

    I prefer Roger Whitaker myself.  "The Last Farewell" is a classic.
    Plus it reminds me of when I was down at Lakeland watching Tigers
    spring training.  This guy keeps yelling at Alan Trammell. "Hey
    Roger... come here... he Roger..."  someone tells him that's Alan
    Trammell.  and he says "No that's the other guy, ain't it?  Roger
    Whitaker?"  Obviously a diehard Tiger fan...
    
    

    
    ...have to miss you guys on this one.  I expect to be in Floridia
    taking in the spring showing of the boys of summer... or in the case of
    the Red Sox the aging men of summer...
    
    glenn
    

    OK, gotta see If'n I cain swing come kinda road trip REAL SOON.
    
    JaKe
    

>    OK, gotta see If'n I cain swing come kinda road trip REAL SOON.
>    
>    JaKe

Let me know when, big guy, and I'll make sure we're all busy and
unavailable....8^)

No seriously, gimme da woid and I'll set something up.....


'Saw
    

>>	Glenn, if you pay my way there I'll stop down that Friday and have 
>>a few brews with you.  I know this great poolside bar where they have a 
>>dynamite happy hour...
>>
>>				/Don

	They wouldn't happen to serve FREE SCHAEFERS there would they?

	Billl

                
> 	Glenn, if you pay my way there I'll stop down that Friday and have 
> a few brews with you.  I know this great poolside bar where they have a 
> dynamite happy hour...
    
    Since my dad and I are driving down with the three kids it won't cost
    me a thing, /Don.  You're up for a 24-hour marathon in the car with 
    three young children, right?
    
    glenn
    

    
    Can't make this one.
    
    The Crazy Met

I'll be off camping that weekend so I can't make it, but someone have 3
beers for me.

j.

    
>>    <<< Note 24.144 by PLUGH::NEEDLE "Money talks. Mine says "Good-Bye!"" >>>

>>I'll be off camping that weekend so I can't make it,
    
    I cain see the report now,
    
    Jeff Goes Camping, or Deliverance II, starring Jeff "Ned Beatty"
    Needle.
    
    Give us a report
    
    JaKe
    

Just want to try and get an idea of how many folks are gonna show up
on the 26th at OPP. 

I hsould be there fairly early, and I hope we have a decent turnout.....


'Saw

    I b dare... Cathmeister should too...
    

Depends on how early you plan on getting there 'Saw I may be able to
stop in for a quick drink.

The Crazy Met

>Depends on how early you plan on getting there 'Saw I may be able to
>stop in for a quick drink.
>
>The Crazy Met

I'll probably leave work a little before 4pm or right at 4pm.  That'd
put me at the OPP just before 5pm.....


'Saw

I know this will come as a shock, but I'll be there.  With the never ending
musical knowledge in this file, we should all plan on going there and drowning
out the piano man and his cronies.

"All my ex's live in Texas
 and Texas is the place I really long to be."

sorry, just warming up


Billl

    
> "All my ex's live in Texas
>   and Texas is the place I really long to be."
    
    C'mon, Billl, that song is well above your standard of Boxcar Willie
    favorites.  I figure you better concentrate on going no higher than,
    say, Conway Twitty...
    
    glenn
     

I plan to be there....

welcome back KEV!!!!!!!!!!!1

mike

I just got off the phone with someone I heard speak at a youth sports banquet
afew years back.  I ran into him last night and we got to talkin about SPORTS.
I mentioned the get together on the 27th.  As it turns out he lives in this 
area (north-central MASS) and just asked me if the get together was still
on.  This guy is real down to earth and will talk sports till he's blue
in the face.  Has anybody heard of Dick Radditz (sp?)?  He was a relief
pitcher for the BoSox in the 60's (I think).  I told him I'd get back to him 
when I make sure there is going to be a get together.  

Hopefully we can get a big turn out.

Billl

>I just got off the phone with someone I heard speak at a youth sports banquet
>afew years back.  I ran into him last night and we got to talkin about SPORTS.
>I mentioned the get together on the 27th.  As it turns out he lives in this 
>area (north-central MASS) and just asked me if the get together was still
>on.  This guy is real down to earth and will talk sports till he's blue
>in the face.  Has anybody heard of Dick Radditz (sp?)?  He was a relief
>pitcher for the BoSox in the 60's (I think).  I told him I'd get back to him 
>when I make sure there is going to be a get together.  

First off Bill, tell him it's the 26th!!!!!

Second, yes, I've heard of Radditz, and he's more than welcome.....

Third, explain to the esteemed Mr. Radditz, that he owes me a beer for
organizing the get totgehter.....8^)


'Saw

Okay.

I know that some of you from the Pats day gathering must be wondering
where your tickets are.  Well, I'm wondering the same thing myself.
I had them on my desk, and next thing you know......


SERIOUSLY though, I have not sent out the tix cause one daidbeat still 
owes me money.

On the off chance that the money came in the mail over the last two
days when my mailbox was down (a victim of a plowdriver on PCP)
I'll send the tickets out by or over this coming weekend.....


Thanks for your patience.....


'Saw

Yeah that's what I meant the 26th.  Guess I better call him back.


Billl

    That's *Radatz*, you goofballs. ;-)  The guy's practically a living
    sports legend around these parts.  For 3-4 years he was one of the best
    relief pitchers baseball has ever seen, and if it hadn't been for the
    abusive way that relievers were treated in those days, he'd be one of
    the all-timers, right there with Fingers and Gossage and the rest.
    
    And if he shows I'm gonna be kicking myself for not being able to
    make this one...
    
    glenn
    

    Right up there with "Sam Malone", eh????
    
    JaKe
    

Well, I would be interested in talking some serious hoops during the hoopla
and my roommate, despite being a Purdon't alum, is no fan of basketball and 
is very upset that I am considering watching basketball during a new episode
of Star Trek. So mebbee I'll stop by.

But the current plan is this.  Since my sister is a Purdontian, and
is a season's tickets holder, she can get tickets from the Purdue allotment
for the Meadowlands games. So I will probably have her Fed Ex me the tickets
and go watch the Boilers play Arkansas, and get a UMASS!!! game to boot.

Oooh.... I like that...

Murph

>>  SERIOUSLY though, I have not sent out the tix cause one daidbeat still 
>>  owes me money.


 I thought Dinz took the package???

 ;^)

    I well remember Dick Radatz.  I wasn't a Sox fan, but you had to
    appreciate what this guy did back then.  
    
    He was severly overused because he was the main draw (along with Teddy
    Ballgame) and was one of the FEW positive things that the Sox had going
    for them.
    
    Lee

                
    > I well remember Dick Radatz.  I wasn't a Sox fan, but you had to
    > appreciate what this guy did back then.  
    
    I took a look in the old encyclopedia last night to verify my statement
    that Radatz was as dominant a relief pitcher as there ever was (and not
    another Sam Malone, JaKe!) for 3-4 years, and indeed, from 1962-65 the 
    guy saved 100 games, under the old rules and usage, plus added another 
    *49* wins.  One year he pitched over 150 innings and struck out over
    180 batters.  He was consistently posting ERAs in the high 1's and 
    low 2's and striking out 10-11 batters per nine innings.  "The Monster" 
    was simply awesome.  You guys had better be respectful (cuz I bet he 
    could still stomp any one a yas...)
    
    glenn
     

    I as I recall Radatz was a Michigan State spartan.
    
    For three years aboslutely awesome; bubble broke in 64 all star game
    when Callison homered.  Dick threw duster at Rodgers then of Angels
    now Expos manager - most frightening thing I ever saw.  May have been
    precursor to Tony C beaning.
    
    oth-bill

    	Ask Mickey Mantle how good Radatz was in his prime.  He hated
    facing "The Monster".  Hey Billl, if he really shows up I'll pay
    for all the Red White and Blue he cain drink.
    
    				/Don

    
  >  	Ask Mickey Mantle how good Radatz was in his prime.  He hated
  >  facing "The Monster".
    
    Yes, he struck out literally half the time he faced Radatz.  I think
    the Mick used to fake hangover sickness late in the game to get out of
    those at-bats, as opposed to his usual trick of hitting home runs with
    real hangovers...
    
    glenn
    

Maybe we can get Raddatz to show us the finer points of throwing the
curve vs the fastball.

Personally, I'd love to hear his opinion on Rocket Roger, and the
6th game of the 1986 World Series.....


Can't WAIT!!!!!!


'Saw

Spoke to Dick last night.  Gave him the corrected date.  He sounds like a go!


Billl

    Radatz never threw a curve; it was high heat and low heat and 
    hang loose - at the end of his run he started with some spin and change
    of speed but he had basically the big three years.
    
    If he could have hit bigs a few years earlier he might have had more
    hall of fame years - ? YAZ had 3 max hall of fame years, 21 fair to
    good ones;  Radatz had 3 hall of fame years and he was THE BEST. Dizzy
    Dean made HofF because he was GREAT 31-37.  If you have to name greatest
    stopper ever DR is on list - perhaps two more top years and he would
    be a candidate.
    
    	I can just imagine being a college player and facing him as he was
    still getting his control - ouch

    LIke a mini-get together Monday night at da Canucks/Blues Hokey game.
    
    JD

    re Canucks/Blues git tagether:
    
    Huh?  I don't know...that may be a little long of a drive even for me.
    
    Billl

    Dick Radatz!!! One _a.my BlowSox childhood heroes!!   Well actually,
    thar weren't much to heroize in them early 60's years. Twas a real
    pleaseure to watch and hear the Monsta mow 'em down in dem years,
    wif us fans having to endure the likes of Jack Lamabe, Arnold Early,
    Mike Fornieles, Ike Delock, Bob Tillman, Gene Conley, Don Buddin, et
    all, stinkin' up the joint.
    
    Monbo and the Monstah ruled!
    MikeL
    

I remember the day the pathetic Sox traded the ol' Monster.  He had kinda lost
it by then, and they sent him to Cleveland for Lee Stange and Don McMahon.  
Stange ended up pitching a lot of innings, none too great and McMahon combined 
with John Wyatt to be a pretty good 1-2 closer combination.  Anmazingly enough, 
not a bad trade for the Sox. 

=Bob=

    	Good old Jack Lamabe, they called him Tomato 'cuz his face was
    red.  They should've called him Bud 'cuz that's probably what made
    his face red.
    
    				/Don

    
    Gotta jump in for a quick moment - too bloody busy lately to belly in
    here!
    
    I got a few 'trons from Kevin Neuzil (BSS::Neuzil).  Remember him? He's
    the guy who's wife had triplets 1 1/2 years ago and he lives in
    Colorado.  Sorta an Occasional Noter.
    
    Anyway, he's here until tomorrow and he's staying at the Westboro
    Marriot (Rte 495 and Rte 9). We're having a short get together there
    tonight right after work and he's expressed an interest in meeting
    anybody who can stop in.
    
    I think it would be a nice "warm-up" for tomorrow night's GT.  Anybody
    think they can (on short notice) swing by?  We'll be meeting in the
    bar.
    
    I remain,
    socially directing y'all to Westboro tonight!
    Kev
    

Yeah I can probably make it for a short while.

The Crazy Met

Wow.  If I were Kevin, staying in a hotel, I would lock myself away and 
enjoy the oportunity for a rare quiet evening, not chasing the kids.

No go tonight for me (my regrets to Kevin), but it looks like the KP is in
order for tomorrow night.

=Bob=

>                   -< Hey what time's everybody showing up? >-

5pm?  5:30 ish.....

    

	Wail that depends.  Depends on how fast the Mass Staties will let
	me fly down I495.  I 'spect about 5:00.

	billl

    How many UNC fans will there be tonight?  Gotta make John's wife feel
    welcome....
     

    Good to see everyone again.   Even though I'm not a Sox fan, I could
    appreciate what kind of person Dick Radatz is and what he would mean
    to Sox fans in the notesfile.  Good Job Bill...

    Sure glad I made the drive to go to the OPP lasted night.  And today at
    Kev's was GREAT too.  Gotta thank Kev fer the invite, AND the room at
    Kev & Carol's hotel, GREAT PLACE!!!!!
    
    Was great seeing everybody who came to the get together, and meeting
    "The Monster".
    
    JaKe
    

    Hey =bob=, wanna buy some baseball cards?
    
    nyuk, nyuk
    billl

OK, who stole my Dick Radatz baseball card...

    Damn.  My wife ruined all the OPP plans by commiting us to go over to
    some "friend's" house for dinner.  What a waste of a BB evening.  I
    knew right then that this weekend would turn into a sports nightmare.
    UNC, Michigan advancing was extremely disappointing.
    
    John "D Cowboys" R.

    
    Awright, it's been almost a week since the get-together at the OPP
    and nary a word about the Monster, Dick Radatz?  What gives?
    
    I'll tell ya what gives. Here I am sitting at home watching Channel
    5's Chronicle show wif that maroon Globo reporter Mike "Scrape"
    Barnicle down at the BoSox fantasy camp in Fla. Well, who do I see
    sitting next to Barnicle but the ol' Monster hisself, Dick Radatz.
    Now I know this show was taped a coupla weeks ago, but it was mentioned
    that the Monstah and other Sox alumni would be remaining in Fla till
    spring season was over. Well Hardy Har Har!  Also a friend_a_mine heard
    Radatz being interviewed by some foolish talk-show host from sunny
    Bradenton.  Hmmmmmmm. Methinks Dick Radatz was as close ta the OPP
    last Friday as I am to Amelia Earhart's watery grave!
    
    What we have heeyah is a dang hoax of almost epic proportion as when
    SubwayChris got caught in a FixScam!  If I had enuf energy, I'd bring
    Mssr. Long up on charges.  Seems like time fer another Trial!
    
    Shame!
    MikeL
    
    

You mean that guy at the OPP WASN'T The Monster?


Boy, I'm pissed now!  I sold his autograph to my brother for $20.  Now
I'll have to give him his $20 back!


'Saw

    -1,
    Geez 'Saw, ya know it ain't nice to cheat anudder Scotsman, even yo'
    brother. If I was he, I'd sue for treble damages.
    
    8^)
    MikeL
    

	Hey MikeL,

	Had you shown up you'd a known what was happenin'.


	billl

    
    I'm a bellyin' up, being a main's main and done admitting that the
    ball and chain put the Kibosh on any KP dat night. Seems I screwed
    up on the date of a_in_law_mandatory party. 
    See I got the cojones and mainly resolve ta admit that the wife......
    whoops.  
    But the summons is in the mail smart-ace!
    
    I'll just sneak away now,
    MikeL
     

|     <<< Note 24.193 by CTHQ::LEARY "UNC:AnomalyOnHorizon;CHAMPEENSHIP" >>>
|                 -< Did Slash finally pay for his poison? 8^) >-


I don't know about Slash, but those of us who were left there late
got stuck for quite a bit of $$$.....


Mabye the next one will be a pay-up-front affair and then we drink till the
money's gone.....8^)


'Saw

>>I don't know about Slash, but those of us who were left there late
>>got stuck for quite a bit of $$$.....

	I'll say!!  It sure is fun meeting yunz, but I learned a lesson
	that you don't want to hang around 'til the end without a BIG
	bankroll.

	billl

Okay,

Aside from some of us getting stiffed, I think our get-together was
a resounding success.  I had a blast.

So, with that in mind, the NEXT "just-for-the-halibut" Sports Get Together
will be on Thursday Night, MAY 13, 1993.

Mark your calendars, start working on your KPs.


Since Bill Long did such and excellent job of getting a special guest
star for this past get together, we'll have someone else do it this time....8^)


Get Together will start promptly at the first moment the first Sports Noter
arrives.....


See ya there.....


'Saw

Oh yeah.....  It's at de OPP.......

It must have been the RONS in the dinning room ordering on our TAB!!!!!
Sorry to hear about what happened but I'm not surprised. I left a ten...

mike

>
>It must have been the RONS in the dinning room ordering on our TAB!!!!!
>Sorry to hear about what happened but I'm not surprised. I left a ten...
>


I don't want to give the impression I'm pointing fingers, because I'm 
not.  I just know that those of us left had to cough up a healthy chunk
of change.  

Actually, I was surprised, because that's never happened before.


NEXT time, we're gonna keep a_eye on ALL the RONS!   8^)


'Saw

I can probably make that next get-together. 'bout time.

The Crazy Met

re: stiffed for the bill

Hey guys, don't look at me.  I threw in a ten, and all I had was two glasses of 
club soda, one of which Dickstah spilled all over my dockers...

>re: stiffed for the bill
>
>Hey guys, don't look at me.  I threw in a ten, and all I had was two glasses of 
>club soda, one of which Dickstah spilled all over my dockers...

No, like I said, I wasn't pointing any fingers.  

And phew!  I'm glad that was club soda on your pants, and not what
I thought it was.....8^)


'Saw

    	Hey I threw in two sawbucks and I didn't eat anything either.
    Unless Da Monstah' scooped it up thinking it was his appearance
    fee...
    
    				/Don

>    	Hey I threw in two sawbucks and I didn't eat anything either.
>    Unless Da Monstah' scooped it up thinking it was his appearance
>    fee...
    
You didn't fold them length-wise and wave them did you?  If so, the
way the Monstah was acting, he probably thought it was a "tip".....8^)

    Hey, was all them "people" stacked around the piano RONs???????
    
    I didn't see the Monstah scarf up any cash.
    
    I envy him fer the length of his hair, though.
    
    JaKe
    

    Okay, I admit it was me that stiffed everyone.  I didn't show up, NOR
    did I leave ANY money.
    
    Mark.

    Being a sales guy, I always get stuck wif da tab.  glad I didn't go!
    
    brews

    
    >><<< Note 24.212 by LAGUNA::MAY_BR "Free Jake's pea brain, er p_name" >>>
    
    brews,
    
    My lawyers should be in touch wif you tomorrow.  We cain settle out of
    court for $73.62 or I'll see ya in kangaroo court.
    
    JaKe
    

    
    Here I am, defending your right to free speech, and that's the thanks I
    get?  Sheesh, your last friend in this conference (and that's only
    cause it's too far to drive from 'burgH to Phoenix) and yer trying to
    extort money from me.
    
    brews

    
    >>What we have heeyah is a dang hoax of almost epic proportion as when
    >>SubwayChris got caught in a FixScam!  If I had enuf energy, I'd bring
    >>Mssr. Long up on charges.  Seems like time fer another Trial!
    
    Hoax?????   The Monstah, as far as I heerd, made the trip THAT DAY,
    and stayed in Mass. til Sunday morning, when he left to return to his
    former locale.
    
    JaKe
    

    
    > <<< Note 24.216 by CTHQ::LEARY "UNC:AnomalyOnHorizon;CHAMPEENSHIP" >>>
   >>             -< and whar would that"former locale" be JaKe? >-
    
    Dunno, he didn't say.
    
    JaKe
    

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'Saw -

As far as I'm concerned, it's ok to post this reply. :-)

Once I finally got to the first "for the halibut" get together, I had a
great time. There were still 4 folks left when the airline finally
released me from its clutches and I made my appearance. The rest of you
wimps missed the evidence that the far southern reaches were experiencing
ice and snow, rather than their more normal fire and brimstone. Ask Kev
or Jake for details. :-) [If they've already given this weather report,
I'd love for someone to extract and mail it to me.]

Turns out that I may make the next one......Believe It,,,Or Not. I'm
*supposed* to be in Boston that week for a class. It's already been
cancelled once, but if I'm anywhere close, I'll be there.

Trivia question - probably best repeated wherever Brits are most likely to
be hanging out these days. A group was discussing the Monty Python credits
over dinner, and we were pondering the derivation and meaning of the term
"eights". It is probably (in the opinion of my Chicago-based bunch of
yahoos) a cricket term. Any elucidation which can be provided would be
greatly appreciated.

A&W 



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    	Sure "Dah Monstah" was there.  
    
    	Did I mention we had a get together out here in Colorado
    	on Friday night.  Yeah, we had Elvis at ours!  Ask Riggo....
    
    Claybone

>    	on Friday night.  Yeah, we had Elvis at ours!  Ask Riggo....
    
No way Claybone.   

I gave Elvis a ride on the way home from the OPP.......



btw, when are YOU going to make da trip out East to see all of us?????


'Saw

    Man she was cranky the other night about the airline too... but I
    did get my cards, so I was happy...
    

    
    	Could be sooner than you think 'Saw.....
    
    	I woulda met all you'ze at Tigermania in '91 'cept the
    	trip got yanked out from under me.  Still got the unused
    	ticket on my desk.
    
    Claybroon
    
    

>    	Could be sooner than you think 'Saw.....
>    
>    	I woulda met all you'ze at Tigermania in '91 'cept the
>    	trip got yanked out from under me.  Still got the unused
>    	ticket on my desk.
    

Hey, could be FUN....8^)


Oh yeah, when you come, will you bring Elvis?


'Saw    
    

      Well 'Saw it was supposed to be a suprise,  but I will let the cat
    out.
    
      We, from Colorado, have decided to rent a Winnebago (sp?) and cruise
    out next week.  WE figured, hey might as well party in a travelling
    house.  This will prime us for when we arrive and start some real
    partying with real party people.  The only problem is who will be the
    designated driver(s)?
    
      We should arrive sometime next week barring a blizard.
    
    
      Now this will all be done at the expense of DEC.  Our CC: didn't use
    all the money that was budgeted,  so why not use it for moral?
    
    
      See ya next week;^)
    
      Tim

>      We, from Colorado, have decided to rent a Winnebago (sp?) and cruise
>    out next week.  WE figured, hey might as well party in a travelling
>    house.  This will prime us for when we arrive and start some real
>    partying with real party people.  The only problem is who will be the
>    designated driver(s)?

Cool.

    
>      We should arrive sometime next week barring a blizard.

Nope, just blinding rain out here today....
    
    
>      Now this will all be done at the expense of DEC.  Our CC: didn't use
>    all the money that was budgeted,  so why not use it for moral?

Great!  I love it.   8^)
    
    
>      See ya next week;^)


Bring beer.

    
    	Hey, you had 'em in your truck.  YOU ask him! (Thankyouverymuch)
    
    	We don't need no steenking Winnebago.  I got the camper on
    	my truck.  It's even got a toilet!
    
    Claybroon

      But Claybroon, I thought you didn't want to put all those miles on
    your truck?  Then again,  a toity in a priority!  Having to stop every
    20 miles for the unfortunate small balddered people tends to get old, 
    not to mention the time consumtion....
    
      Tim

>    	Hey, you had 'em in your truck.  YOU ask him! (Thankyouverymuch)
    
Yeah, but when I left him off at Exit 9 on the Mass Pike he said he
was headed west to Colorado.  He said something (with that little qiuver
of his lip) about going to Aspen to check out what the problem was....8^)

So, if you see him, tell him he's invited.....


'Saw

Remind me to bring my Elvis baseball card to the nexted git together...

=bob=

    
    >>your truck?  Then again,  a toity in a priority!  Having to stop every
    >>20 miles for the unfortunate small balddered people tends to get old, 
    >>not to mention the time consumtion....
    
    Sheez, you Coloradoians is wimps.  Why stop to whiz, ain't that what
    windows are made for????
    
    JaKe
    

        I guess you can do the window thing,  but I like my paint job! 
    When your going 80mph down the freeway,  the wind will blow where it
    wants;-)

    re-.1
    
    Then use the cans ya just emptied, either that or a long section of
    hose.
    
    JaKe
    

Okay, this is for all ticket holders who are going to the Pats Day
game.

It's gonna be just a little bit long before the tickets arrive.


Perhaps you've heard me talk of my mail carrier (you know, the one
who has the IQ that hovers around room temperature -- CELSIUS room
temperature!).

Well, earlier this week I put all the envelopes with tickets into the
mail (read that my mailbox) and put the flag up and went off to work.

Got home, and on that particular day found my neighbors mail in my
box.  Trucked down the road to his house to give it to him, and
came back, wondering when MY mail would arrive.

Everything was fine for a couple of days.

Last night, after I'd been home, I get a knock on the door.  It's 
Carney, the guy who runs the golf course next door to my house.   He
hands me (yep, you guessed it) a stack of envelopes (yes, they ALL were
there).

Seems that earlier this week, all of the envelopes I sent out, somehow
arrived in the golf course mail, unpostmarked.  Carney was wicked busy
(so he said) and last night was the first chance he had to stop.

So, nexted time the envelopes are going into a REAL mailbox (you know
the kind with the little door in the front, painted red and blue).

Later this morning, I'm going to call my post office and complain
about this BOOB again!


Sorry for the delay.   I guess this deal with the tickets and the USPS
was doomed ever since /Don's envelope came all torn up, in a plastic
bag.....


'Saw

Oh yeah,  "nexted time" is this evening when I get home.  I forgot
to bring all the envelopes with me this morning, so I'll drive to the
mailbox tonight when I get home.

Again, sorry for the delay.


'Saw

I called the Post Office this morning, and complained to the Postmaster.

I was told that the carrier for my route is a new carrier, still learning
the route, and since it's a very large route, it's easy to make mistakes.

I told her that that was the same excuse I heard the last time I complained.

She said that my route is a hard route to keep carriers on.


It's a wonder more disgruntled customers don't go into post offices
with AK-47s....


'Saw

    
    'saw, it's postal employees that carry the AK47's.  I'd be careful what
    I say to, about, or with a postal employee.
    
    brews
    
    
    DISCLAIMER: this note is not intended to slight in any way, shape or form
    anyone who is, was, is related to, was related to, had a relationship
    with, or once saw a postal employee.

    	Brews I happen to like the Cliff Claven character on Cheers
    and find your remark highly offensive, even with the disclaimer!
    
    				/Don

   > Brews I happen to look like the Cliff Claven character on Cheers    and find
                       ^^^^
   > your remark highly offensive, even with the disclaimer!
    
    
    /er, being located remotely from most of the noters, I often wonder
    what everyone looks like.  Thanks for helping to put a face to the
    name.
    
    brews

Well, I know things are a little bit rural in my town, but I never
thought it was THIS bad.....8^)


'Saw

    	Brews, I find note 24.239 an affront to not only myself but
    all people who look like Cliff Claven and act like Know It Alls.
    Whatever happened to valuing invaluable valuable differences?
    
    				/Don

>    	Brews, I find note 24.239 an affront to not only myself but
>    all people who look like Cliff Claven and act like Know It Alls.
>    Whatever happened to valuing invaluable valuable differences?
    

Well, if we all value differences so much, how come we don't allow
people with humongous goiters to sit with us at the OPP?

    Don Robichaud... let's see...
    
    robin... band... chair... ranch... what other words can you make of
    your name?

The Cliff/Mother co-dependent argument was classic, as were the prayers....


8^)


'Saw

    Hey 'Saw,
    You sure yo' middle name ain't Hawk?
    
    
    And we thought we was getting a_improvement!!
    
    Muchos of course,
    MikeL
    

>    Hey 'Saw,
>    You sure yo' middle name ain't Hawk?

Hey, I didn't lose them.  I TRIED to get rid of them but they kept
coming back!
    
    
>    And we thought we was getting a_improvement!!

It is, it is....   No vouchers this year...
    


>    Muchos of course,
>    MikeL

Yeah, yeah.  You'll probably volunteer next year and we'll all end up
wif tickets to your IN-LAWS  8^)


'Saw
    

		*** IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT ****

I just received word that four (4) tickets have become available for the
Patriots Day Red Sox game against the Chicago White Sox.

They're bleacher seats, with the Sports folks.

Please send me VAXmail at CAM::WAY if you are interested in purchasing
said tickets.


To help move these quickly, I'm waiving the mandatory "buy the organizer
a beer" rule for these four seats. 


thanks,
'Saw
    

I have a pending reservation on the four tickets.

'Saw

    
    So who came up with the idea to use Dick Radatz as the faux visiteur?
    A guy just well known enough to pique interest, but old enough that
    most wouldn't recognize him on the street.  And a known gregarious
    personality that makes the whole thing believable.  Brilliant, really,
    or maybe just good intentions aborted and then slyly resurrected?
    
    glenn
      

    I suspect that Bill Long, Kev, and JaKester have some explaining to do.
    
    re: Brews and mailman
    You should feel fortunate that Karen Derry has let you live.
    
    The Crazy Met
    

>>    I suspect that Bill Long, Kev, and JaKester have some explaining to do.


	Suspect again, oh wise one!

	billl

The four tickets that I announced were available last Friday have been
taken.


fw

    I understand Mike Forneiles is coming to the next get-together.
    
    NAZZ

I heard it was John Hanna....or John Smith..or John Bigbooty..or john Smallberries

Go ahead and laugh, but I'm getting Ted Williams to come to the next
get together.....


'Saw

    Laugh while you can, Monkey Boy...
    
    -Emilio Lazardo
    

>    Laugh while you can, Monkey Boy...
    
Hey, hey.  Don't be mean now......    

>>    I suspect that Bill Long, Kev, and JaKester have some explaining to do.


>>	Suspect again, oh wise one!

>>	billl
    
    
    
    
    Yabbut ya could, if'n ya didin't want to inadvertantly miss anybody,
    include yerself, Kevin Nuezel (where iz he anyway?), Dickstah and
    Hawk in "youz owe a 'splaination"!
    
    Besides Billl, methinks yer too charitable to honor that implied
    co-conspiritor with da title "wise won".
    
    I remain,
    givin a $0.02 contribution!
    Kev
    

>        <<< Note 24.260 by CSTEAM::FARLEY "Megabucks Winner Wannabee" >>>
                          -< only if'n you go foist! >-

>    Yabbut ya could, if'n ya didin't want to inadvertantly miss anybody,
>    include yerself, Kevin Nuezel (where iz he anyway?), Dickstah and
>    Hawk in "youz owe a 'splaination"!

>    I remain,
>    givin a $0.02 contribution!
>    Kev
    
	Hey, I'm here.  Just too busy to write.  By the way, someone should
	ask Riggen just exactly HOW did he create a miracle? 

	Sorry Jeff.

	Kevin

                           (4)  A Miracle Team
    
    
    Service way above and beyond the call of duty can result in a 
    Miracle.  This is a brief summary of Miraculous service that went 
    around the world.  Jeff Riggen of Remote Sales Support pulled 
    together this Miracle Team after receiving a desperate plea from a 
    sales representative in Ayre, Scotland.  Timing was critical, as 
    there was a need to locate a Ciprico Controller board and have it 
    shipped to Scotland for a major customer demonstration.  Jeff 
    tapped into his Friday night network and began this miraculous 
    effort.  A very complex series of events took place as well as 
    interesting issues, i.e., locating and purchasing the board, 
    securing passport numbers, shipping the board overseas, and 
    obtaining export numbers necessary to release the board from 
    customs, just to name a few.  
    
    This event was a "Miracle"!  Exceptional service on a weekend to 
    help a Sales Rep in need from the other side of the world.  The 
    people who made this Miracle happen are:
    
    	      Jeff Riggen	  Remote Sales Support
    	      George Rivera	  Vendor Equipment Services
    	      Brent Taylor	  CXO1 Logistics
    	      Dan Holiday	  Unit Manager, Las Vegas
    	      Don Lavallee	  Andover Logistics
    	      Dave Mackey	  Remote Sales Support
    


    Don't pull that arm out of its socket there, Jeff, getting it around
    behind ya to pat yerself, ya know??
    
    (8^)*
    
    JaKe
    

    
    Tommy,
    
    I've got it and here it is (intentionally crypographically entered
    to protect the right to privvicy. For a large $$$ contribution to
    me, it can be decoded!)
    
    JRFC
    c/o Mr. Miracle
    1102 XXXX Drive
    XXXX XXXXXXX, Co. X0X0X
    
    
    
    HtH!
    
    I remain,
    yer social director and keeper of da mailing list!
    Kev
    

what the bleep does this have to do with get togethers - never mind
this is ::sports

The Crazy Met

    
    Yabbut speaking of get togethers, I got s'more Colorado 'trons from
    Kevin (Mr. Too-Bashful to Post My Own Notes) Neuzel.
    
    Semms he's gonna be in da Westboro Marriot Monday, Tuesday and
    Wednesday and he's hopping to meet you'zn.  
    
    Sooooo, anybody wanna meet somebody who (perhaps?) actually KNOWS
    and has MET Jeff Riggin?  ;^)
    
    Mebbe Monday is OK for me, Tuesday is out (T-ball practice doncha
    know), and Wednesday is probably the best but hail, no need to work out
    yer own plans fer a GT through me. 
    
    anyway, I steel remain,
    yer social director!
    Kev
    

    Kev,
    Tell Mr Neuzil, he'll have to do better than dat! I know and have met
    Jeff Riggen and am still amazed that the main can walk and chaw at the
    same time! 8^)..  Say Jeff, hope arthro was OK. Git on them slopes next
    year.
    
    Yo 'Saw!
    
    Thanks mucho for the Patriots Day Tix. Jest received lasted night in
    the mail. Now I got to axe you a question.... Am I the only one whose
    ticket is for the New Britain-Binghamton game on Pats Day??
    
    Sheesh!
    MikeL
    
    

    Mini Sports get togetehr tomorrow, as myself, Sr. Pete Crouch, and
    Mr. Pete Tutak will be at the Kingdome for the Mariners game.   
    Obligatory pre game toasts at FX McCrory's, of course...
    
    JD_eh

    I'm up for a trip to Da Bull nexted Wednesday.  I have to be in Acton
    later that night anyway.

    Next Wednesday is perfect for me as long as we start early, got to be
    back in Cambridge by 8 or so.
    
    The Crazy Met
    

JD,

Have a couple for me, eh?



MikeL,

Hahahaha.  I got yunze all fooled.  I took the REAL tickets and traded them
for BritSox tickets, because I didn't feel like driving to Boston.
Besides, I figured you'd all enjoy the friendly confines of Beehive
Field better than the impersonal, HitlerYouth stocked Fenway.....


8^)


'Saw

    
    Yabbut speaking of da HitlerYouth,
    
    anybody else watch "The Sound of Music" lasted night?
    
    I remain,
    in luv with the soloist who won 3rd place!
    Kev
    

    Hey, let's all meet at Kimball's after work today!
    
    Tommy's buying!

***** IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT *****


I know this is last minute, but I have one (1) ticket available for
Patriots Day game on Monday.

To get it, you've got to meet me at the RAt PRIOR To 10:45 am.....
with $7 in hand for Bill Long.....


Please VAXMAIL me at CAM::WAY.  First vaxmail gets first dibs....


'Saw

    We meeting at the usual time, at the usual place on Monday?
    

>    We meeting at the usual time, at the usual place on Monday?


yep, and we're gonna be rounding up the usual suspects......    

    I'll probably be at Copperfield's before the game and the Boston Beer
    Works afterwards.  I don't know if my wife's 10 year old nephew is
    quite ready for the Rat yet, but I might stop by.

    	Copperfield's don't let you in the door if you have a HatOn.

    
>>To get it, you've got to meet me at the RAt PRIOR To 10:45 am.....
>>with $7 in hand for Bill Long.....
    
    How'd you get the rights to Bill????   $7 is pretty cheap fer someone
    wif the stature of WildBill, but then again, I'll pass cause he ain't
    my type.
    
    (8^)*
    
    So Ol' BIll wimped out of Pats day, eh??
    
    JaKe
    

|>>To get it, you've got to meet me at the RAt PRIOR To 10:45 am.....
|>>with $7 in hand for Bill Long.....

Let me rephrase this:

You have to meet at the Rat with $7 to GIVE to Bill Long, for the ticket
that he paid for.
    

>    How'd you get the rights to Bill????   $7 is pretty cheap fer someone
>    wif the stature of WildBill, but then again, I'll pass cause he ain't
>    my type.
    
I dunno, I think he's kinda cute....

    (8^)*
    

>    So Ol' BIll wimped out of Pats day, eh??

No, one of his buddies did.   Bill will be there, and we'll be singing
the Jumbalaya song the Chainsaw way.....


'Saw    

Tommy,

I'm not sure what I'm doing.   Might just find Hawk's car and party wif
him for a while......


'Saw

    Should I bring the 70's tapes again?

why not.....

    All right cut da sheet!
    
    Sheesh, get a little too busy to get into the file for a while and next
    thing ya know I gots da likes a JaKe decimatin' mah character and good 
    reputaion.
    
    No JaKe, I didn't wimp out on Pat's day.  I'm goin' dahntahn ta root
    on da Sox.  By the way, how many Bucco games ya been ta yet.  No more
    newspaper excuse now!
    
    Heck, I get ta da 'burgh fer a WEEK and manage ta catch at least two.
    
    So there!
    billl
    
    p.s. Let me know if'n yunz want me ta bring da tunes Monday.

    re: .288
    
    Uh for JaKe to decimate your good reputation and character you would
    have to have had something resembling that.
    
    The Crazy Met
    

>    
>    Uh for JaKe to decimate your good reputation and character you would
>    have to have had something resembling that.


TCM,

I'd be VERY careful what you say now, seeing as you're going to show
up at da Rat.

Just ask /Don what we did to Dinz that one year.


'Saw    

Hawk is in.

He axed me to hold his ticket so he wouldn't lose it.


I'll be coming with some other rather large individuals.  I'd say the
combined weight of the four of us is probably right around 1000 pounds.

I'm bringing Big John, Bubba, Bull and me.  We'll be the offensive
line component....


'Saw

    Hey coming from a Mucking Fet fan I consider that a compiment.
    
    Thanks
    billl

    'Saw,
    
    Seeing as all of you is goin to be drinking and eatin' and all, maybe
    you should referee a contest between two SPROTSters, ala Paul Boomer
    and Lord Windersphere.  Probably be a high scoring event, yeah??>
    
    JaKe
    

    Mario and Jaramir put on a clinic for the Debils today.  Watch out
    Bahstan, here come da Pens.
    
    billl

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                                  -< SPORTS >-
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PATE::MACNEAL "ruck `n' roll"                         3 lines  16-APR-1993 15:41
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>>    I'll probably be at Copperfield's before the game and the Boston Beer
>>    Works afterwards.**  I don't know if my wife's 10 year old nephew is
>>    quite ready for the Rat yet, but I might stop by. **
    
    
    Mac, Mac Mac........ I think da Rat is gonna be tame in comparison to
    the sights he'll be a-seein' sittin' at the game wif yo' RugbyKrishna
    friends... The po' kid'll be traumatized! 8^)
    
    And let me ask you what bidness a bonnie Highlander like yourself has
    sittin' in a_English pub like Cornwall's?  Yer kilted forebears just
    rolled over in their graves.  Sigh.....
    
    8^),
    MikeL
    
    

    Good to see everyone at the Rat, the game, and after. WHere did you
    guys head after the Marathon?
    
    The Crazy Met
    

I'd like to formally apologize for the shitty weather we had yesterday,
and the fact that the game was only 9 innings.  Sorry.


Seriously, I hope everyone had a good time.  I tried my best to make sure
everyone was comfortable.  Unfortunately I didn't plan ahead and have
kazoos.  

Whoever runs it nexted year can supply Kazoos and catheters to make the
event more enjoyable.


'Saw

Oh yeah, since I've run the last two sporting event get togethers 
(Whalers-Bruins last NOvember, Patriots Day) I'm nominating someone else
to do the next one.

I'll still handle the OPP stuff though....


'Saw

Too bad Radatz and Needle stiffed us....

daryll

>Too bad Radatz and Needle stiffed us....
>
>daryll

Yabbut, do we have "Rad" haircuts or what?


8^)

    Some of us went for dinner at Uno's at Kenmore Square.  Bill took a
    liking to a ND fan there... then went from establishment to
    establishment...
    

         <<< Note 24.300 by CAMONE::WAY "Don't start me to talkin'" >>>

>Yabbut, do we have "Rad" haircuts or what?

Yeah, 'cept mine is gettin' kinda long...:-)

daryll

Hey Bill, so what did that ND fan look like??

The Crazy Met

Just got back on line  - moving my office today, and if I waited for the 
site people to re-hook up my WS, I'd be out of luck for days...

It was a great day to sit in the bleachers yesterday, but wicked, wicked hot 
for marathoning.  Everyone I know was 5 to 15 minutes off their normal pace.
I ran 3:05 myself.

It was great to see youse guys cheering me.  I saw Kev and Dickstah on the 
left, and Walt and somebody else who knew my name on the right.  Sorry I 
missed MikeL, Glenn, 'Saw, etc.

Thanks again guys.

=Bob=

    =Bob=,
    
    The real question is, after running 26+ miles yesterday, how does ya
    feel tooday????
    
    
    Hell, I ran 26.5 feet yesterday to catch one of the JaKesters and my
    legs is killin me tooday.
    
    JaKe
    

Bob,

My friend Chris ran, and he actually ran a good race.  He had wanted to
break 3, but ran a 3:01:29.  He said he realized he'd have had to run the
last 1.2 at a 5 minute pace to break 3 hours.

His quads are tight, and he's gonna lose his big toenail on his left
foot, but other than that he felt pretty good.   He said the heat was
a big factor in the race.


Congrats on a great race (to me, even finishing in that heat took a helluva
effort).

If you're not in training at the next get together, I'll buy you a
congratulatory beer....(or a club soda).....


'Saw    

The good news is that all my toenails are intact.  My legs are pretty sore (as 
usual) and my sunburn is too.

'Saw, your pal Chris ran a hell of a race.  My goal was three hours too, and 
there was no way I could have done 3:01.

=Bob=

>'Saw, your pal Chris ran a hell of a race.  My goal was three hours too, and 
>there was no way I could have done 3:01.

Yeah, I'm proud of him.  8^)

I'm trying to get him to the next get-together, since I won't see him much
as he's got a new job up in ZKO.

He "electrolyte-loaded" for a few days before the race drinking Exceed and
then grabbed gatorade at every stop.   Beyond that I don't know, cause
I cannot CONCEIVE of the pain and effort you guys go through....


'Saw

A Posting from A&W:


==============================================================================

From:	DECWRL::"71554.1702@CompuServe.COM" "alison d. waskom" 25-APR-1993 23:42:48.46
To:	Frank Way <cam::way>
CC:	
Subj:	Cubs Tix for Sports file

Frank - 

Could you please post this in Sports for me?  Many thanks.


Good people of Sports:

If there is anyone interested in a road trip, I have an opportunity
available to see one of baseball's classic venues (at its anathema time
of day). I have a pair of tickets to two night games at Wrigley Field in
Chicago. *ONE* seat for each game is available to anyone who wants to
attend the game with me. The first game is on Thursday evening, July 15,
Cubs vs. the Rockies. The second game is on Monday evening, July 26, Cubs
vs. San Diego. If we have any Chicago area RONs, feel free to contact me.

For anyone actually doing this as a road trip, I am willing to discuss
lodging requirements. Chicago can be a fun city, with more to do than you
might immediately imagine. (Keep in mind, I have an apartment in the
Chicago area, and I spend weekends back in Massachusetts). The seats are
in the upper boxes - which I have never occupied. I'm assured that they
are pretty good seats.

No promises on how I'll decide who gets to join me if more than one person
is interested in coming. I just hope *someone* will be interested and I
won't be left scalping the extra tickets. :-) Best way to reach me is via
Email. I'm on Compuserve, account number 71554,1702

A&W         

>    into Kenmore Square so I could give my nephew the full Patriots' Day
>    experience but the crowd was about 20 deep so we really couldn't see
>    any runners.  From there we went to the Beer Works for a couple and
>    then headed home.


Should've walked back towards Brookline.  YOu would have bumped into
Me, Mike Leary, Glenn, and Tim (Glenn's compatriot)....


'Saw

    >I hardly saw any of youz guys.  I ran into Dickstah and Casey at the
    >reststop on the Pike and again outside the Park at one point.  I saw
    
    Hope they're ok...
    
    
    >A&W at our rugby match earlier that weekend.  After the game we headed
    >into Kenmore Square so I could give my nephew the full Patriots' Day
    >experience but the crowd was about 20 deep so we really couldn't see
    >any runners.  From there we went to the Beer Works for a couple and
    >then headed home.
    
    You bought your nephew a couple at the Beer Works... didn't think he
    was that old... (smileys go here)
    

|    >I hardly saw any of youz guys.  I ran into Dickstah and Casey at the
|    >reststop on the Pike and again outside the Park at one point.  I saw
|    
|    Hope they're ok...

Well, I didn't want to bring this up in here, but Dickstah called me,
asking for Mac's approximate weight, and mentioning something about
bringing suit....
    
    
|    >any runners.  From there we went to the Beer Works for a couple and
|    >then headed home.
|    
|    You bought your nephew a couple at the Beer Works... didn't think he
|    was that old... (smileys go here)

No, Mac and his nephew were looking for "a couple", most likely because
they couldn't find Dickstah and Casey to "run into" again.....


hth,
'Saw
    

    Yo Mac,
    How much cabbage did ya lay on the nephew ta force him to fib to da
    wife?  HAHAHA. I cain see him now innocently saying "No" when asked
    if the rugbylites were Outtahand. Po' kid was probably still in 
    ice cream shock.
    
    MikeL
    

    Sounds like an offensive foul to me... unless Dickstah had a KJ or
    Isiah shirt on.
    
    Maybe Mac and his nephew found a nice aunt/niece combination at
    the beerworks and went to Copperfields to see if he could make
    Fenway disappear....

Simply taking a kid into a place like that should qualify as
corrupting a minor :-)

The Crazy Met

Hey Kev, what was that you said about Mac's Christmas present??

    I can barley believe Mac would hop to the Beer works in this age to
    buy his nephew a rootie beer... just in case his mom found out. 

	Hey Walt, that's pretty punny!

	billl

    Who drafted you into this conversation?  I thought you were looking for
    the Lou Holtz fan.

Is his mom your sister or s-i-l?

The Crazy Met

    
    > As a matter of fact, the little bugger did squeal on his Uncle and told
    > his mom that I had 3 beers during the course of the day!!
    
    I hope she congratulated you on your restraint...
    
    glenn
    

	That was a real nice t-shirt, wasn't it.


	billl

>> Well!!?? Spill it

	I didn't spill nuttin'.  I've never been in a Pizzaria Uno with as
	nice a scenery, though.


	billl

    Actually, someone spilled, who was it?  Cath?
    
    
    Best I could do was an occasional look over my shoulder or look through
    the reflection off your eyes as you kept staring...  I was on the wrong
    side of the table...
    

    Dadgummit billl,
    Smitten wif a ND-clad wimmin?  
    Now I hope some_a_Fenway's suds or yer blue blockers didn't cloud yer
    vision.... so I'll ask the always reliably retentive Walt.....
    Was she a typical bodacious ND example_a_beauty?
    
    MikeL
    

    
    	Yeah, MikeL.  She had green teef!
    
    Claybone

    HAHAHA bone,
    Ya musta visited the campus!! 8^)
    
    Actually you're rat on..... on St.Patty's day.
    
    MikeL
    

    She could've been, there was heavy drool factor from across the
    table... was too busy making sure it didn't get in my food.  Was
    trying not to stare as much as billl was.  Seemed pretty cute.
    Nice hat with matching yellow jacket...
    

>Dang nice o' Dickstah.  'Specially to check Mac's size.  
> 
>=Bob=


I'm just glad he wasn't thinking of g-string underwear too......

>Dang nice o' Dickstah.  'Specially to check Mac's size.  
    
    Isn't that kind of personal?  I mean Casey must... never mind...
    

>    Isn't that kind of personal?  I mean Casey must... never mind...


Dress right?  Or dress left?    

Just a REMINDER people:


	8 Days from Now, 5/13/93, at the OPP.

	Sports Get Together.  Start time? Whenever the first noter
	gets there......


'Saw

    I would like to publically thank 'Saw for once again picking a date
    that he knows I am not available.

    
    	I hear ya Mac.  I can't make it either.......... 8^)
    
    

    >>          <<< Note 24.339 by PATE::MACNEAL "ruck `n' roll" >>>

    >>I would like to publically thank 'Saw for once again picking a date
    >>that he knows I am not available.
    
    Maybe it was a request from the general attendees that he do this, eh?
    
    When are ya "unavailable" nexted month????
    
    
    BTW, Is Dick Radditz showing up this time???
    
    Inquiring mindless and all that crap
    
    JaKe
    

Hey,

If you WANTED to be there, you'd find a way.....8^)


I told everyone my formula for picking these dates.   I work backwards
from Friday, till about Wednesday.  That helps me pick the days.

In May, I tried to stay away from some major weekend action, in picking
the date.....


'Saw

the 13th works great for me as I'm already pencilled for a vaca-day on the
14th....

the annual IYCFDTYDT.....or in other words If You Can't Fish Drink Till
You Drop Tournment.....

mike

    No can make it.... I'll in in Florida for 2 weeks...
    I think? 6 days in Orlando, 1 day in Tampa Bay (BTW Does anyone have
    the Tampa Bay National League schedule?) 3 days in Fort Myers,
    I day at Key Largo, 2 days at Key West, and 1 day in Miami...
    Yep, 13 days....
    
    REK

	I won't be able to make it either.  Now stop all that crying and
	blubberin'.  As it turns out it is my daughter's birthday (15) and
	strange as it may seem she asked if we could do something together
	as a family.

	I know what you are thinking, 'Saw.  No, I won't bring the crew down
	to the OPP.  I know how you get around young girls.


	billl

Re Mac:

	We LIKE the piano player.

re Billy_Ray:

>	I won't be able to make it either.  Now stop all that crying and
>	blubberin'.  As it turns out it is my daughter's birthday (15) and
>	strange as it may seem she asked if we could do something together
>	as a family.

That sucks.


>	I know what you are thinking, 'Saw.  No, I won't bring the crew down
>	to the OPP.  I know how you get around young girls.

(All them alibis, and lyin' eyes, we've heard 'em all before....)


Bill, 15 ain't young.  By 15 they're too old for me 8^)


Seriously, it'd be great.  Bring 'em along.  Your family should get
to know the loonies you hang out with.....

'Saw

>>Bill, 15 ain't young.  By 15 they're too old for me 8^)

	Which is 'zactly what I meant.

>>Seriously, it'd be great.  Bring 'em along.  Your family should get
>>to know the loonies you hang out with.....

	Some things are just better left to the imagination.


	billl

>	Some things are just better left to the imagination.

Oh yeah.

I'll bet you've told your fambly that we're all rocket scientists, with
horned rim glasses with tape over the nose, pencil pals in our pockets,
and that we use 7000 functions scientific calculators to figure out
who owes what on the bill.

They probably think we're a bunch of nerds.

You should let them come and find out what a highly cultured, multi-talented,
diversely intelligent group we are.

I promise I won't make any artificial farts under my arm.....


'Saw


PS  Trust me, Bill, your daughter WON'T like Chuck E Cheeses.......

>>I'll bet you've told your fambly that we're all rocket scientists, with
>>horned rim glasses with tape over the nose, pencil pals in our pockets,
>>and that we use 7000 functions scientific calculators to figure out
>>who owes what on the bill.

	That's easy, /er owes everyhting on the bill.


>>PS  Trust me, Bill, your daughter WON'T like Chuck E Cheeses.......

	Ah, 'Saw, she's 15 not 5.  She was thinking more along the lines of 
	dinner at a fancy resturant and a movie (or a play).  I would have
	way too much fun playing at CEC.

	I'll run the OPP thang by her tonight, but I wouldn't get yer hopes up.


	billl

	Since Jessica is not much of a MENS sports fan (she is field hockey 
	whacko, though) I doubt our usual bantering would keep her entertained
	for as long as it takes for /er to polish off a pitcher of Mich Dark.

	billl

>	Since Jessica is not much of a MENS sports fan (she is field hockey 
>	whacko, though) I doubt our usual bantering would keep her entertained
>	for as long as it takes for /er to polish off a pitcher of Mich Dark.

Field hokey, eh?

Well, be that way then.....   ;^)

    

    >>	I won't be able to make it either.  Now stop all that crying and
    >>	blubberin'.  As it turns out it is my daughter's birthday (15) and
    >>	strange as it may seem she asked if we could do something together
    >>	as a family.

    >>	I know what you are thinking, 'Saw.  No, I won't bring the crew down
    >>	to the OPP.  I know how you get around young girls.
    
    Ya know, I ain't been set hidden in a long time, so I'm going to leave
    the subject of 15 year old girls alone.  DOn't wanna get set hidden,
    YET.
    
    re. Fancy Restaurant
                                                      
    They start early wanting those fancy EXPENSIVE dinners, don't they???
    
    Just think, someday, she'll go to a fancy restaurant with her
    boyfriend, order the most expensive thing on the menu, and then take
    two bites, say she's full, and watch the guy cry cause he's just
    dropped 35 bux on a dinner that'll never get eaten.  Wimmen are that
    way.
    
    
    Schnorttt Schittt Schleppps
    
    JaKe
    

Come on JaKe finish up the scenario - we're counting on 'ya.

The Crazy Met

    
    C'mon JAke, the guy don't start crying until after dinner.
    
    brews

    
>>                           -< say YES to set/hidden >-


>>Come on JaKe finish up the scenario - we're counting on 'ya.

>>The Crazy Met
    
    Nah, I'm trying to set a personal endurance record fer not getting set
    hidden.  Must be a month and a half since I been set hidden by anybody.
    
    Maybe someday when the investigation is finished and I answer yer ???
    in the JAJ II note, that'll probably get set hidden, cause it will be a
    breach of national security when I expose the real killers(Jeffrey
    Dahmer had scrambled brains fer lunch that day when his daddy had him
    in Tex-Ass, though.
    
    Schnorttt Schittt Schleppps
    
    JaKe
    

    
    >><<< Note 24.357 by SOLANA::MAY_BR "Inside Intel, but no Intel inside" >>>

    
    >>C'mon JAke, the guy don't start crying until after dinner.
    
    So my timing was off by a little.  Just know that when a teenaged guy
    saves his allowance/pay/drug money fer 3 months to take his girlfriend
    to the nicest restaurant in town, the GF always orders the most
    expensive damned thing on the menu only to take the two obligatory
    bites, then get a doggy bag, takes it home, and feeds her fambily fer a
    week on it, all at the poor dweebs expense.  Why da ya think they have
    cloth napkins, it's look crappy ferthe guy to cry his eyes out, knowing
    he just dropped all that cash, then blow his nose in the napkin, and
    have a stream of nasal oysters fly thru a paper napkin, thereby
    sickening the stuck up old people who were ready to order an expensive
    dinner, complete wif a bottle of Dom Perignon, and making them leave
    and go to pizza hut.
    
    I never cried over a date who couldn't finish her meal, I just scooped
    up the plate and finished it for her, right then and there.
    
    JaKe
    

>    breach of national security when I expose the real killers(Jeffrey
>    Dahmer had scrambled brains fer lunch that day when his daddy had him
>    in Tex-Ass, though.
    
Jake,

Yer NOT telling the troof here.  Ain't know way anyone could have eaten
that brain, because of the shellfish poison that was shot into it!

'Saw    

    
    > I never cried over a date who couldn't finish her meal, I just scooped
    > up the plate and finished it for her, right then and there.
    
    There I was there I was there I was... in the Congo...
    
    

    
>>Jake,

>>Yer NOT telling the troof here.  Ain't know way anyone could have eaten
>>that brain, because of the shellfish poison that was shot into it!

>>'Saw    
    
    Dahmer had a strange allergy to shellfish poison, which, after
    consuming the shellfish poison, made him crave human flesh.  BTW, his
    apartment was allegedly out of legroom when he got caught.
    
    JaKe
    

All you folks who have young daughters better start really watching it in
about 12 years or so. JaKe's little Nathan 'll be 15, and between that
kids recent comments and his ancestry ... :-)

The Crazy Met

    
>>All you folks who have young daughters better start really watching it in
>>about 12 years or so. JaKe's little Nathan 'll be 15, and between that
>>kids recent comments and his ancestry ... :-)
    
    Makes me proud the kid's already following in his Dad's(faith)
    footsteps. BTW, in 12 years and two months, he'll be 16 years old, and
    will want to drive, and judging by the incident the other day involving
    him, a big wheel, and a neighbor kid, I'll never be able to afford the
    insurance, OR the car repairs once he starts to drive.
    
    JaKe
    

    I gotta softball game that night, but I can make it after...
    

    
    >>                 <<< Note 24.361 by NAC::G_WAUGAMAN >>>
    >>                      -< JaKe the Dream Date... >-

    
    >>> I never cried over a date who couldn't finish her meal, I just scooped
    >>> up the plate and finished it for her, right then and there.
    
    >>There I was there I was there I was... in the Congo...
    
    You think I'M the dream date???  My brother-in-Law told his now wife,
    on their first date, that she better not mind farting, because he had
    so much gas he refused to leave the room, or get out of the car, or
    hold it when he had to fart.   She eventually married the guy, even wif
    all of HIS idiosyncrancies.  He makes me look like the Pope.
    
    
    JaKe
    

I can make it that night.

The Crazy Met

    
    I've got a daughter about the same age, but I ain't worried.  After
    watching Barkley all year, she's afraid of guys with solar panels. 
    Jake's kid'll have his by 12.
    
    brews

Pope Jake.

Now there's an image.......

re: .369

stop it, you'ze guys are killin' me, people comin' by to ask what is
so funny,

The Crazy Met

    
>>               <<< Note 24.369 by CAMONE::WAY "Glamour!?!?!?" >>>

>>Pope Jake.

>>Now there's an image.......
    
    And I told him, be fruitful and multiply(but not quite in those words.)
    
    
    JaKe
    

You told your son to be a fruit??????

    
>>               <<< Note 24.372 by CAMONE::WAY "Glamour!?!?!?" >>>

>>You told your son to be a fruit??????
    
    NO, lardass, I told the guy who rear ended me two days before
    Thanksgiving lasted year, and caused me to spend 10 days on the couch
    cause of the pain, to be fruitful and multiply, I just didn't use those
    exact words, but it could be CONSTRUED as saying ~ be fruitful and
    multiply.
    
    Don't mess wif me kids, dude.        (8^)*
    
    
    JaKe
    

|    >> You told your son to be a fruit??????
|    
|    >>> NO, lardass, I told the guy who rear ended me ...    
|    
|    >>> JaKe
|    
|       I don't want to know.


Why does the movie Deliverance suddenly come to mind??????    

    Ok dammit, so it was a poor choice of words.
    
    My car was hit from the rear.
    
    JaKe
    

Don't forget, Thursday night.....


'Saw

 I forgot and gave my wife a KP for thursday nite cause I'm taking a KP
 for the weekend to go fishin'...

 have a good one....

 mike

Shoot.  My KP has expired for Thursday.  Found out yesterday that my wife has
to work late on Thursday, so I'll have kid duty.

Everyone have a club soda for me...

=Bob=

Just bring Melanie and Lindsey along.

HtH

The Crazy Met

I second TCM's nomination...  Bring them along, even for a while....

Hell, if those old farts can sit around the paino(tm), we can have a couple
of young'uns wif us.....

'Saw

>Yea, I suppose it's possible.  Unless of course dan'l is going to be there...


Nope.  Last I checked there was no snow in the forecast......


'Saw

I'll be there tomorrow night between 5:15 and 5:30.

Be there, or be a weenie......

fw

    
    I should be able to make it.  Is it just gonna be 'Saw and me trading
    shots still closing, or is this for real?  ;-)
    
    glenn
    

Well, so far I have I have at least five confirmed, and some more
maybes.....

It should be a smaller but more cordial gathering....8^)


I WILL be there, so if I'm driving all the way up, some folks should
come 8^)


btw, I still think Bill Long's got the LAMEST excuse 8^)


'Saw

>Be there, or be a weenie......
    
    But not a technoweenie...

    	I'll be there sometime after 17:30.  Denny and Chap said they're
    going also.  I'll tell you how the three of us have graduated into
    the "sophisticated pervert" class.
    
    				/Don

I'll be there for the early part of the evening.

BTW anyone hear from Kev lately??

The Crazy Met

    I gotta softball game that night, but I can make it after...
    
Maybe you're taking us on - I play in Maynard DEC league.

	Better to have lame excuse than to have NO excuse at all.



	billl

    Nope, Marlboro...
    

Actually, isn't Thursday the night of Garth Brooks' "Country Music Awards" 
victory party?  Now we know where Billl is really gona be...

	Nope, the CMA awards wuz lasted night.  

	Nice try =bob=


	billl

    
>>btw, I still think Bill Long's got the LAMEST excuse 8^)
    
    Personally, this time I cain't make it cause my wife's trying to get
    pregnant and I feel I should be there.
    
    
    JaKe
    

    Always fun to watch those kinda things, eh Jake?
    
    NAZZ

GREAT get together last night.

For those poor lame souls who couldn't make it you missed 
Chainsaw's Sports Mystery Guest.  This time, it was SCott YOung,
formerly of the Hartford Whalers and Pittsburgh Pengoons, now of
the Quebec NOrdiques....  He graciously bought a round for the
group and answered questions.    Contrary to what some attnedees
thought, he did NOT leave because I challenged him to duke it
out....8^)

Next get together will probably be in June, skipping July, then
hit August....

I'll post details when I have them....


'Saw

Last night wsa nice even though I could only stay for about 45 minutes.
Did /er ever show up? He was already 2.5 hours late when I left.

Yo' Bill Long how was dinner lasted night??

The Crazy Met

    He was there when I got there. (Around 8)....
    
    /Don, When do we start getting organized for LionMania?
    

>                        -< Hey! Anybody find my shoe? >-


We left it as part of the Waitresses tip.  We convinced her that
it was actually Kruschev's shoe.....8^)
    

    
> This time, it was SCott YOung,
> formerly of the Hartford Whalers and Pittsburgh Pengoons, now of
> the Quebec NOrdiques....  He graciously bought a round for the
> group and answered questions.    Contrary to what some attnedees
> thought, he did NOT leave because I challenged him to duke it
> out....8^)                        
    
    Some of us refused to believe that that was any kind of an athelete at
    all, and thought you were just challenging the usual OPP punk regular
    to duke it out.  His presence on the aforementioned wimpy teams and the
    fact that he didn't have his faceshield with him 'splains why he backed 
    down in fear, 'Saw. 
    
    glenn
    

    Yo 'Sawmain!
    Is it time fer your Rosie Ruzicka-Brian Boitano IOce Follies essay??
    
    MikeL
    

You know MIke, I must've burned some brain cells last night,
because I remember talking about that, but the "seed" of the
essay escapes me.

At any rate, we decided that since hockey allows helmets, and visor,
and since all the REAL men who play hockey are long gone, and since
we're left with "image is everything" one-dimensional hockey players
like Mario, and Jaromir Jagr, that we might as well let folks
like Brian Boitano play hockey.

After that, it's just a short leap of the imagination to picture
Dick Button doing color:  "And, oh my, he was resplendant on that
double axle while he scored that goal".

When a little pipsqueak, all of 5'9", hits a guy who's 6'6" and
repidiated to be a man, and the 6'6" guy does a Greg Louganis
with a Dick Button twist, you know that the sport of hockey
has reached an all time low....

Yep, bring on Dick Button, Brian Boitano, and that little guy
who used to skate to "Theme from Rocky".....


'Saw

PS Dreadtom and I are going to start a newspaper too, because we're
   fed up with the caliber of tdoay's sportswriters....

	Hey 'Saw speaking of last night, noticed how everybody had their 
favorite NHL "fight" story, yet in this forum (::SPROTS), everybody 
deplores the violence.  En vino veritas.  I think hokey violence is 
everybody's dirty little secret.  They feel ashamed to say they enjoy it 
when the fellows drop their gloves and smash the snot out of each other.  
It's kind of like the Playboys you hid between your mattress and box spring 
when you were 12.

				/Don

    I think 'Saw was telling most of those stories, about how when he was
    10 years old and would go to WHA Whalers' games he'd get spattered with
    blood when the guy next to him would get the crap kicked out of him by 
    players coming up into the stands.  Like the Playboys, I hear those 
    kinds of defining moments are very impressionable on the young male 
    psyche...
    
    glenn
    

    re: Rocky Theme
    
    I think that was Scott Hamilton
    
    The Crazy Met
    

>    I think 'Saw was telling most of those stories, about how when he was
>    10 years old and would go to WHA Whalers' games he'd get spattered with
>    blood when the guy next to him would get the crap kicked out of him by 
>    players coming up into the stands.  Like the Playboys, I hear those 
>    kinds of defining moments are very impressionable on the young male 
>    psyche...
    
Yabbut, Glenn isn't telling anybody about the twinkle in his eye when
I was telling him that story....8^)

Dale Smedzmo, the guy's name was Dale Smedzmo, Glenn, and he was the
DG (Designated Goon) for the Cincinnati Stingers....


I don't deplore the violence in hockey.  While I don't think that the
benches should clear at every small instance, and I don't think that 
players should be using their sticks when they fight, I don't mind seeing
two guys go at it.  

At any rate, it's better than seeing Mr. One Dimensional do a Louganis
every time he gets brushed by a leetle pesky player......


'Saw    

Okay, it's time to announce the next OPP Get Together for Sports Noters.


In keeping with the rotational night policy, Wednesday is the night for
the next soiree.


Also, I had to decide whether or not to wait till July (a month with some
holiday and vacation action) or two have one sooner (June), and then
hit August.


So, after consulting my crystal ball, divining information from my astronomical
charts, reading some tea leaves, and casting some dice, I determined by
highly scientific and accurate methods, that our nexted get together
will be:


		Wednesday, June 16, 1993, at the OPP in Boylston.


Please note that this is two days after Flag Day, and an appropriately
patriotic celebration will be held.......


Start working on those KPs......


'Saw

    'Saw, you better pick another date.  You blew it this time and picked
    one I might actually be able to make.

    Cool, no softball game that night...

	Lessee, June 18....no birthdays...not my anniversary (I don't think)...
	should be a go!

	Hey, what happened to the golf outing in your backyard, 'Saw??

	

	billl

16th, Bill, June 16th!


As to the golf, it ain't turned out to be a high priority item, in a
summer schedule that is quickly filling up.

There still might be some potential, but I've got to do some figuring.....



'Saw

	derr,

	That's what I meant da 16th.  Whassa matta not readin' minds so 
	good today.


	billl

    Busy listening to your Achy Breaky Heart?
    

I was reading your mind, but I kept picking up something about
"Glamour", and "who cares if I'm not master of my domain"......8^) 8^)




All gave some, and some gave all,
'Saw

June 16th looks like it willwork.

The Crazy Met

    FYI- be prepared.....
    
    I was at the OPP lasted night with the Whitefish (soccer team, sorry
    Bruce, console yourself with your neighbor).  Bud Light's shooting
    a commercial there on... June 16th...
    
    We should plan something to get on this thing.  Imagine this?  Noters
    on regional TV drinkin' beer and making fun of Dick Radatz or Snuffy
    or something like that?  A sign like "We're sports fans, not role
    models"?
    
    

Man, can I pick 'em or what!

I think we should come in stripped to the waist and painted up, with
basketballs on our haids.....


'Saw

>    
>      Are we even going to be able to get near the place?
>


This was what I was wondering myself.

We might have to take the day off and show up there when it opens, eh?


'Saw

    Will Radditz be there????
    
    JaKe
    

    
    'Sawmain,
    
    There ya go, ya *HAD* to pick another night when I got's a T-ball
    game!  :*(
    
    It also happens to be the last game of the season which means da
    manager and the coaches treat the kids to ice-cream aftah the game.
    
    Mebbe I can work on 1/2 KP since it would obviously be a late arrival
    for me.
    
    Radditz?  Hmmmm, mebbe da deliverence dude'll also be there.
    
    I remain,
    ya know we could pray for rain??????
    Kev
    
    
    

>    It also happens to be the last game of the season which means da
>    manager and the coaches treat the kids to ice-cream aftah the game.
    
They're baseball players, right?  Well, treat them to a beer instead.
Beer builds strong bodies, 12 ways....


8^)    
    
    

    Well if Kev won't be there I'll have to make a point of getting there.

    Season's over that soon?  Wow, when I played, the season went into
    July...
    

>    Season's over that soon?  Wow, when I played, the season went into
>    July...

Yeah, but Walt, these kids are like 6.  When I played Little League
you couldn't start until you were 8.....


'Saw    

'Saw your age is showing.

The Crazy Met

    Yeah, and gas was 30 cents a gallon too...
    
    Actually, we started at 8 too.  I played when I was 9.

I'm not THAT old.  8^)

But, I do have to admit that the concept of  T-ball hadn't really been invented
back then.  Well, not organized anyway.   A lot of the fathers had improvised
"T's" to help their kids hit.

Another thing I remember, and it was a bitch of an exercise, was taking a
broomstick or part of a shovel handle, cutting to about an 18" length, drilling
a hold though it which you put a piece of rope through and knotted.

The other end you tied a weight to. 

Then, you'd stand with your back to the wall, arms out straight grasping the
stick, and you'd roll the weight up (kind of like a winch rolls the cable
around it).

It was supposed to strengthen your forearms.  It was a bitch of an exercise....


'Saw

    Yabbut 'sawmeister,
    
    Doncha think you should do like MtM and move that lasted note over to
    the CYS note?
    
    Or should THIS reply belong in the Q&A note?
    
    Ah'm deening to wonk(tm)
    
    I remain,
    in need of help,
    Kev
    

Nah,

If I did that everyone would bitch at me and give me a hard time.

You all know that I've never been too picky about WHERE a note goes,
or even about it's content, other than it should not be too gross,
or derogatory, or stuff like that.....


I see myself as a laissez-faire kind of moderator.....


'Saw

    Yabbut ya COULD blame it on you-know-who though....
    
    I remain,
    really, who would even suspect you?
    Kev
    

	Sheesh, 'Saw, I never thought of you as a lazy fairy....Oh, nevermind



	billl

    >   <<< Note 24.438 by MKFSA::LONG "InTheCornerOfMyMindIsAJukebox" >>>
    Almost sounds like the start of "Please Mr. Please..."

>    Is that OPP thing still on for 6/16?  I talked to Steve Diggins lasted
>    night and he said he'd show, if it was still a go.  He's back amoung
>    the employed as of lasted month... not sure if he likes the place and
>    not sure how long he's gonna be there but it's $$$.  He also says to
>    say "hi everyone!"
>


Karen, this note should really be in the ex-employees whereabouts
note!  I mean, c'mon, you should know better.....8^)


'Saw

I just heard from Madge.

He will be in the Boston area the week of June 1st.

I'm kind of soliciting nights of the week for the get together.
He's pretty open to whatever night.

As he said, we'll get a good hangover started.....

Let me know folks.

This does not change the 6/16 gig, btw.....


'Saw

Thursday night is bad for me, Tuesday or Wednesday are probably workable.

The Crazy Met

    I'm out for any nights but Friday.  Wife's back in school for the
    summer...
    
    glenn
    

Uh Glenn,

just bring the kids with you.

The Crazy Met

Uh Glenn,

>> just bring the kids with you.


 Glenn doesn't share his flattop coaster with just anybody.....

    Seeing how I find myself here in the Peoples Republic of Mass-a-2-shits
    this week. (PKO)  Would anyone be interested in getting together this
    week?  
    
    
    billl

    I cain't this week... in a class and going to an au revoir party for
    someone leaving DEC...
    

    
    >>I cain't this week... in a class and going to an au revoir party for
    >>someone leaving DEC...
      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    
    What a novel idea.  Hope it doesn't catch on.
    
    
    (8^)*
    
    JaKe
    
    

    
    Yabbut unless Madge et al don't mind a late start, say after 7:30, I'm
    a no-go for 6/1, 6/2.  Got T-ball those nights in Grafton.
    
    I remain,
    willing to let yoouze all come and watch in the meantime though,
    Kev
    

    re .448
    This was by choice, no problem there...
    

    I have to be in Acton on June 2 for a 7 pm meeting, so if you guys want
    to meet at Da Bull that would be good.
    
    Anybody hooking up with Bill Long?

I ain't going all the way to the Bull.  8^)


Madge axed me to make the arrangements, so I picked a centrally located
place -- you all know where that is.....


And while I now have a much shorter commute to work, it will extend my
travel time to points east (ie OPP, The Bull, etc) by another 15 minutes
or so.....


'Saw

    OK, howz about Da Prospector.

    Hey 'Saw,  I don't want ta hear any whinin' 'bout how far yunz gotta
    drive fer no steenkin' git tagether!
    
    
    billl
    

I wasn't whining.  I was just stating that I have to drive farther now, 
so that no one thinks that the OPP is picked because it's close to me.


No, not the Prospector.  That's still too far east.....


OPP.....

    
    > Hey 'Saw,  I don't want ta hear any whinin' 'bout how far yunz gotta
    > drive fer no steenkin' git tagether!
    
    Oh, Canada!  Glorious, and free!
    
    
    glenn
    

Geez, guys, I wasn't whining.


I can't help it if yunz guys chose to live at the doorstep to the Arctic
Circle!!!!!  8^)


Seriously, I was just sayin' that it's gonna take me a little longer to
get there from work, which probably puts me into a category with you guys
from Cow Hampshire.

(How long does it take yunz anyway?????)


'Saw

    EDT Merrimack - OPP is 60 minutes.
    
    
    billl

    So, I take the lack of response as a "no".
    
    
    billl

re OPP-Merrimack:

	That's not too bad.  From OPP-Hebron is 1:15.....


re .460:

	Sorry, I cain't make it up there this week......


'Saw

Okay,

I just got off the phone with Adam Thurgar (aka Madge).   We were able
to carve a get-together appointment out of his busy schedule 8^)


Thursday evening at 6pm, at the OPP.

I hope everyone will try and get out to make him feel welcome....  He
can probably drink us all under the table so if you've got any Yank pride,
get on out there 8^)


'Saw

I should be able to make Thursday for about 1/2 an hour or so.

The Crazy Met

Cool.

    
    
    I would like it to be known that I will not be able to make it.
    
    
    
    		Gin

	Well I was wavering on whether or not to make the trip, but Gin
	just made up my mind.


	billl

>	Well I was wavering on whether or not to make the trip, but Gin
>	just made up my mind.
>
>
>	billl


That's TWO strikes.  One more and you're out......

>>That's TWO strikes.  One more and you're out......

	Hail, I wuz down thata way all last week and did anyone want to
	git tagether then...noooooo.


	billl

    No one asked me last week.  I could have made it then
    
    Gin

>    No one asked me last week.  I could have made it then
>    
>    Gin

That's Billl for ya -- any excuse.....


Billl, Gin coulda made it last week, what's yer excuse now??????


8^)

	Hey, Gin, see 24.447 and the massive amount of replies to it.


	billl

    
    Yabbut I got my KP and I'll be there.
    
    I'm also bringing an updated copy of the noters list for all who are
    interested.  If ya want a copy, send me mail so I can make enuf
    (I think it's send/author from thisted note).
    
    Present Deccies I have on the list include:
    
    Me
    JaKe, 'Saw, =bobM=,MikeC, Billl, Walt, REK, TcM, and ACC_Chris (phone
    only).
    
    Ex's include:
    
    Doc Midnight, Jeff Riggin, MrT, Denny, Bob Hunt, Ninj, Hawk, A&W,
    B_A(Adams), -dan'l, Tom Hill, TTom, Paul Y, Dickstah, Cath and Jo, Bill
    "Goose" Gusic, Madge, Joe Cotanch and Pete Crouch.
    
    Anybody who specifically *DOESN'T* want his info given out is asked
    to send me mail with the specific person you don't want to have yer
    personal.
    
    OK?
    
    I remain,
    yer Social director and keeper of the list
    Kev
    

      Riggo is an ex-DECCY?  I thought someone saw the light and saved ya?
    
      Tim

    
    I think it's just wishful thinking. 8^) He has been quiet lately.

    
    	He's been trying to think of something witty to enter in 
    	here...........thus the silence.  
    
    Claybone
    

Great, but small, get together last night.  


I don't have the mother of all hangovers right now, but I've got at least
a second cousin ;^)


Brutal exchange of the evening:

	        (subject was basketball)

		Kev:   I've legitmately dunked before. you know.
		Tommy: Where?  Mr. Donut?????



More when I'm awake and coherent.....


'Saw

    
> Great, but small, get together last night.  
    
    Yes, a very good one indeed.  Madge is a great guy.  More y'uns shoulda
    made this one...
    
    Lots of bad, unrepeatable things said about everyone who wasn't there,
    and about those who were there while they were in the bathroom, as
    usual... ;-)
    
    glenn
    

    Sorry I missed ya, glenn.  I got there around 9 and kept the party
    rolling 'til well past midnight.

    
    >>		Kev:   I've legitmately dunked before. you know.
    >>		Tommy: Where?  Mr. Donut?????
    
    Thanks 'Saw, now I have to figger out how to clean all of the coffee I
    just spit on the laptop off the thing.
    
    (8^)
    
    JaKe
    

    I guess you condition this morning is the reason I didn't get any mail
    'Saw.  And I thought maybe you didn't like me anymore!
    
    Gin
    
    ps  It's a good thing I didn't show, I would have drunked you alls
    under the tables.

>>ps  It's a good thing I didn't show, I would have drunked you alls
>>    under the tables.

	Now that's what I call a challange!


	billl

    I think Madge the mad Aussie would certainly be able to rise to that
    challenge.  And the last young lady that said that to me was a real
    hurtin' puppy the next morning.

Madge certainly can put it away and away and away and away....

It was such a fun time!


Now, who can guess which sports noter's nickname will be changed come
Monday morning because said noter scooted without dropping any loot?


'Saw

    Boy am I hurt, TCM.  You've been promising me a few beers for awhile
    now.  I found out that you were at lasted night's get-together and
    didn't leave 'Saw or Kev any money to buy me those beers.

    
    
    	Nyah, nyah.  CU beats ND again! :*)
    
    Claybone

Officially decided last night:

	The Cheap Met


hth,
'Saw
    

    
    	By who?  A trumped up panel of SPROTS noters who have more
    	opinions than athletic talent? :*)
    
    Claybone
    

>    
>    	By who?  A trumped up panel of SPROTS noters who have more
>    	opinions than athletic talent? :*)

No, by the people who got stiffed 8^)


    
'Saw    

    CU beat ND again??
    
    What is the 'Bone? A CXO Wardlevaner. Ah thought you was a
    Bama feign!!
    
    Mike
    

    
    	Hey, take your pick.  Either CU or Bama beats 'em.  Fine
    	wif me!

I got to 495 and realized I forgot to put down some money. I'll add extra
on Wednesday night. Would have posted last night, but Ijust
moved and the modem, etc is not yet out.

Sorry about that.

The Crazy Met

    ACC-TCM

I haven't been set hidden in a while but .497 is making it VERY
tempting (.5 :-)

The Crazy Met

    Where's /Don been lately?  Is he stuck in the Men's room or something?

    Naw!  I checked.
    
    Gin

Okay, 

the Get Together is 6/16.....


I've been hearing ads on the radio for one of the Bud Light commercials
down here.  What they do is film individuals.  Some of those MIGHT make
a version of the radio commercials, and a few lucky suckers from ALL OVER
the USA MIGHT make the TV version of the commercial.

The waitress said if we're ensconced there at our usual time we should
be all set.....


'Saw

PS  I hear the tab is on TCM for that night.....8^)

    
    YESSS!!!!!
    
    The ultimate in college_pranks has happened!!!!!!
    
    My list skeered the bejeesis into Mr. Jrff Riggen, so much so that to
    prove he's NOT a ex-noter, he's going wild here today!!!!!!
    
    Glad my ploy worked?
    
    I remain,
    looking for a new target!
    Kev
    
    
    ps-not really, I screwed up, but you knew I did.....
    

Do you have Needle's address on that note?  

He and his wife just had their baby, Nathan something-or-other, and it might
be nice to flood him wif cards and letters.....


'SAw

Air Nathan Detriot Needle?

    Cubby Bear Needle Jr.
    

	Everything looks like a GO fer Wednesday from this side of the border.
	I'm even talking to a not-so-well known mystery guest.  No, 'Saw, it's 
	NOT my daughter.


	billl

    
    >>	Everything looks like a GO fer Wednesday from this side of the border.
    >>	I'm even talking to a not-so-well known mystery guest.
    
    And NO, I'm not making the drive up there fer this one, even if I do
    have Thrusday and Friday off. So now younzes cain attend and not stay
    away just cause poor ol' JaKe might show up.
    
    We gots an appointment wif Sea World on Thurs. and Fri.
    
    JaKe
    

I'll believe Bill will show when he walks in through the door.

'Saw

  Why don't youse guys move the get-together to Manhatten?  I mean, I'm
  meeting you *more* than half-way.

  Kath

re: .509

If Bill stumbles through the door does that count as an appearance??

re:.510

Kath

Manhattan is real close.  Rent a car and you can be at OPP in under
3 hours - easy.

The Crazy Met

    Did I already say that I probably won't make it this time either?
    
    WEll I can't.
    
    Gin

With the beer commercial they're filming they still better have those
TV sets tuned to game 4 of the NBA Finals.

The Crazy Met

	The way I figure it TCM & /er are picking up the tab tomorrow.
	

	billl

Bill, the only foks who have any right to complain are those who made
it to the last get together. As I recall you did not make it.

The Crazy Met

    ETA for tonight?

	around 6 fer me

	
	billl

Ihave a 2-5 meeting which probably won't go that long. ETA of 5:30-6

The Crazy Met

I'm planning on 5:30 UNLESS they are still shutting down lanes on 290
in Auburn, south of Worcester.

I got stuck there for 20 minutes last Wednesday in the early afternoon.

Do anyone know if I might encounter the same problem at 5-ish????


'Saw

    Hope Rhonda makes the first cut for the commercial.  
    
    'Saw notice that probably for the first time in Get Together history,
    at the end last night, the women outnumbered the men?
    
    I'm glad I didn't have to hear Magic gloat about his man MJ, and the
    sign of a championship team is winning when it counts.  Don't know if
    he said that, just guessing...

>    Hope Rhonda makes the first cut for the commercial.  

She was GREAT.

    
>    'Saw notice that probably for the first time in Get Together history,
>    at the end last night, the women outnumbered the men?

Yes, and weren't WE the lucky ones????

    
>    I'm glad I didn't have to hear Magic gloat about his man MJ, and the
>    sign of a championship team is winning when it counts.  Don't know if
>    he said that, just guessing...

I'm so sick of hearing announcers call him "Michael" or "MJ".  It like
this faux "folksey" air, kind of saying "Me and the man are on
speaking terms"


it's SO fake.  


'Saw

So Rhonda finally did give in to temptaion and sign up??

The Crazy Met

	Yep, all the others, myself included, wimped out.


	billl

I wouldn't call it wimping out Bill; you just stuck to
your principles, hah!

The Crazy Met

	TCM, 

	the p-name or your life -- loose one,  your choice

    	About the best thing I could say about Bud Lite is that is doesn't
    totally sip.  The beers were cheaper at Partner's and we could actually
    watch the game.
    
    				/Don

    
    
    
          TCM did you lose a bet or are the Mets Mathematically eliminated?
    
    
    Chap

	Ooh, you come on like a dream, peaches and cream,
	Lips like strawberry wine, 
	You're sixteen, you're beautiful, and your mine....

	You're all ribbons and curls, ooh what a girl,
	eyes that sparkle and shine,
	You're sixteen, you're beautiful and your mine.

	You're my baby, you're my pet,
	We feel in love on the night we met,
	You touch my hand, my heart is went pop.
	And ooh when we kissed, we could not stop

	You came outta my dreams, into my arms, 
	Now your my angel devine, 
	You're sixteen, you're beautiful, and your mine......

    Careful there /er, MEtz and the Young Urban Better Beer Inbibing Elitists
    (YUBBIEs) will get after you.
    
    brews

Okay.


Well, since we're all sitting here with baited breath, waiting for
El Meurte to come down here on Monday and chop a few people with
his ever-present scythe, I thought I'd pick the next Get Together Date,
so that at least I'll know when it is.....


The nexted Sports Get Together will be on FRIDAY, AUGUST 13, 1993.


Hopefully I will still be gainfully employeed by the Gambino Fam.., uh, er
Digital.....


'Saw

    
    The field got it this week, and pretty hard, too.  It might have been
    better to wait a week or two, so as not to affect Q4 quite so much,
    but...
    
    Any of you guys know anything about imaging?  db integration?  Don't
    have anyone here who can do that now...
    
    brews

    I didn't wimp out.  Rhonda never asked me... only 'Saw... was waiting
    for my turn in the spotlight...

>    I didn't wimp out.  Rhonda never asked me... only 'Saw... was waiting
>    for my turn in the spotlight...

Well, now I am having some regrets.

If I'd have gone up there with her, they probably would have signed
her and me to do a re-make of "Beauty and the Beast".


And besides, if I'd have gone up there with her, poor Billl would not
have been able to watch from the front, he'd have been behind us making
sure my hand was not wandering anywhere near her tush......8^0


'Saw

    Yeah, it would have knocked that "gee, I'm proud to be her husband"
    grin off his face while she was doing the commercial.. (smiley goes
    here...)

    Ms. Finucane was advised of this get together and has put it in her
    calendar, in case of present or future blonde days...
    
    She told me to put in a note in for her but didn't say what to say in
    it.  So I guess she's says "hi".  Nothing about world peace or anything
    like that...

    
    Did y'all make sure to talk up the Ninj Day at A&W's on 6/26?
    
    I remain,
    part of the Social Director's Association
    Kev
    

    It was mentioned.  The noon start time makes me doubtful. (Wedding
    outside Hartford that around 5...)  /Don, Denny, 'Saw said they were
    going.  'Saw said something about bringing his Yahtzee game to make
    sure a good time was had by all...

Denny told me he's bringing his fishing pole.  Something about catching
dinner for the family.

But he seriously said that he'd be bringing Grills.


Billy_Ray_Wuss_Long is backing out.  I doubt it's going to be a *large* turnout,
well, unless one person I'm thinking of attends, but I'll show for a while....


'Saw

    'Saw is lookin' to feel the thunder... seeing the lightning in her
    eyes...
    

I kinda like my p_name.

Chappy, I didn't lose a p_name bet or anything. I suggest you ask
'Saw or Bill Long for details.

The Crazy Met

'Saw great date for a get together Friday the 13th, perfect.

To Jessica:

	I want to know, how did you get to me, to break my heart
	the way you do?


'Saw

re: .528

reread my note, it specified that there were rare exceptions to
those basic rules.

After this note its back to Mets in '93

The Crazy Met

    There was a difference in her a laughter, there was a sparkle in her
    eye... 

	
	Little surfer, little one,
	Makes may heart come all undone,
	do you love me, do you, Surfer Girl

	I have watched you on the shore,
	Standing by the ocean's roar,
	Do you love me, do you Surfer Girl?

	We could ride the waves together,
	while our love could grow.
	I could take you in my Woodie,
	Everywhere you want to go.

	So I say from me to you,
	you can make my dreams come true,
	Do you love me, do you surfer girl?????

    He was singing this to...
    
    Summer Lovin', had me a blast...
    Summer Lovin', happened so fast...
    Met a girl, crazy for me...
    Met a boy, cute as could be...
    Summer Day, driftin' away, but ah, those summer nights...
    
    It wasn't My Melody of Love or She's too fat for me...

    This one is for JD:
    
    Tell ya_a story 'bout a Hot Rod Race,
    Ford & Lincoln, settin' the pace;
    Story is true I'm here to say,
    I was drivin' that Model A;
    
    It's gotta Lincoln Motor, really souped up,
    Model A body, makes it look tough;
    It's got 8 cylinders, uses 'em all,
    It's got overdrive, never stalls.
    
    A 4-barrel carb, duel exhaust,
    411 gears you can really get lost;
    Safety tools, I ain't scared,
    The brakes are good, tires fair.
    
    Well I pulled outta LA late one night,
    Moon & stars, shinin' bright;
    Drivin' up that Grapevine Hill,
    Passin' cars like they were standin' still.
    
    All of a sudden in a wink of an eye,
    A Cadillac Sedan passed me by.
    I said boys, there's a mark for me,
    By then the taillights was all ya could see.
    
    I said boys forgive me for bein' behind,
    I thought I'd make my Lincoln unwind;
    Took my foot off the gas and man alive,
    I shoved her down, into Overdrive!
    
    Well I wound her up to a_hundred and ten,
    Speedometer said I'd hit top then;
    My foot was glued, right to the floor,
    That's all there is, there ain't no more!
    
    Everyone thought I lost my sense, 
    Telephone polls look like a picket fence;
    They said slow down I see spots,
    Lines in the road, look like dots.
    <forget this line>
    <forget this line>
    Fender was clickin' on the guardrail post,
    The guy beside me was white as a ghost!
    
    All of a sudden she started to shake,
    <cain't remember this line>
    I looked in the mirror a light was blinkin',
    The Cops was after my Hot Rod Lincoln.
    
    Well they arrested me and put me in jail,
    I called my pappy to throw my bail;
    He said "Son you're gonna drive me to drinkin'",
    If you don't stop drivin' that Hot Rod Lincoln.
    
    

GREAT tune there Chris -- always been a favorite....


'Saw

    	Cain't make August 13th.  I'll be on vacation.  If you guys want to
    move the sight to one of the Wellfleet beaches, I'll provide the beer.
    Good stuff of course, Red White & Blue.
    
    				/Don

Another one youze guys forgot.

Sixteen candles make a lovely sight
But nots as bright as your eyes tonight
Blow out the candles make a wish come true
And I'll be wishin darlin that you love me too

Your just sixteen
But your my teenage queen
Your the pretties loveliest sight I've ever seen

Sixteen candles make a lovely glow
Forever and ever I love you so

The Crazy Met

>    
>     Ok, what's with all the song lyrics?
>

They're for Jessica....  


'Saw

C
Jitterbug (x4)
            C
You put the boom boom into my heart
            F                       C
You send my soul sky high when your lovin' starts
C
Jitterbug into my brain
       F                      C
Goes a-bang-bang-bang till my feet do the same

    F
But something's bugging you
C
Something ain't right   [the chords in this bit, for instance!]
   Dm                        G
My best friend told me what you did last night

[I think these next 2 lines are right]
F                C
Left me sleepin' in my bed
Dm                   G
I was dreaming but I should have been with you instead

        C
Wake me up before you go-go
               F                 C
Don't leave me hanging on like a yo-yo
        C
Wake me up before you go-go
                F                         C
I don't want to miss it when you hit that high
        C
Wake me up before you go-go
               F                 C
'Cause I'm not planning on going solo
        C
Wake me up before you go-go
G       F       C
Take me dancing tonight  [what are the chords in this bit?]
                 F
I wanna hit that high
Yeah yeah

(etc.)

3/4 time
         C            F        G        Am           F            C
  ||: You / fill up my / sens-  / es     /     like a / night in a / forest, /
   Em      Am              G              F         Em      Dm
         /      like the / mountains in / spring- / time, /      like a /
    F             G        G7        G                          F        G
    walk in the / rain.  /         /    like a / storm in the / des-   / ert, /
      Am             F             C        Em       Am           G 
            like a / sleepy blue / ocean  /        /        you / fill up my /
     F          Em        Dm          G             C        F        C
     sens-    / es      /      come / fill me a-  / gain!  /        /       :||

	Verse 2:
	Come let me love you, let me give my life to you
	Let me drown in your laughter, let me die in your arms
	Let me lay down beside you, let me always be with you
	Come let me love you, come love me again

{title:They Call the Wind Mariah}
{st:Lerner and Loewe}
W[C]ay out west they h[Am]ave a name for r[C]ain and wind and f[Am]ire;
The r[C]ain is Tess, the f[Am]ire's Joe, and they c[F]all the w[G7]ind Ma[C]riah.
Ma[C]riah blows the s[Am]tars around and s[C]ets the clouds a-fl[Am]yin';
Ma[C]riah makes the mou[Am]ntains sound like f[F]olks [G7]up there were [C]dyin'.

     M[Am]aria, Ma[Em]riah,
     They c[F]all the w[G7]ind Ma[C]riah.

Before I knew Mariah's name, or heard her wail and whinin',
I had a gal and she had me, and the sun was always shinin'.
And then one day I left that gal, I left her far behind me,
And now I'm lost, I'm so darn lost, not even God can find me.

     Mariah, Mariah,
     They call the wind Mariah.

Way out west they have a name for rain and fire only,
And when you're lost and all alone, there ain't no word for lonely.
Well I'm a lost and lonely man, without a star to guide me,
Mariah blow my love to me, I need a gal beside me.

     Mariah, Mariah,
     They call the wind Mariah.

Oooohhh....that gives me goosebumps....8^)


'Saw

{t:Unchained Melody}

[C]Oh my [Am]love my [F]darling
I've [G]hungered for your [C]touch
A [Am]long lonely [G]time
And [C]time goes [Am]by so [F]slowly
And [G]time can do so [C]much
Are [Am]you still [G]mine?
I [C]need your love    [G]
[Am]I   [Em]need your love
God [F]speed your love [G]to [C]me    [C7]

[F]Lonely rivers [G]crawl to the [F]sea to the [G]sea
[F]To the open [G]arms of the [C]sea
[F]Lonely rivers [G]crawl, wait for [F]me, wait for [G]me
[F]I'll be coming [G]home, wait for [C]me

[C]Oh my [Am]love my [F]darling
I've [G]hungered hungered for your [C]touch
A [Am]long lonely [G]time
And [C]time goes [Am]by so [F]slowly
And [G]time can do so [C]much
Are [Am]you still [G]mine?
I [C]need your love    [G]
[Am]I   [Em]need your love
God [F]speed your love [G]to [C]me
[Am]       [F]        [G]         [C]

A real classic:

My bologna Has a First name,
Its O-S-C-A-R
My bologna has a second name,
Its' M-E-Y-E-R
I love to eat it every day
And I just want to Say
Oscar Meyer has a way with
B-O-L-O-G-N-A

Or this one:

Bosco puts Rockets in Yer Pockets
Bosco puts Whee in yer Knee
Bosco puts Hustle in Yer Muscle
Hey Bosco, Wait for ME!


Or This Classic:

I wish I was an Oscar Meyer Weiner
That is what I'd truly like to beeeeee
Cuz If I was an Oscar Meyer Weiner
Everybody be in love wif meeeeee


Or this ONE:

I love to go swimming with 
bow-legged wimmin - (oops sorry...family show...)




JD

     F                C                    Cm         F7      Bb
If a picture paints a thousand words, then why can't I paint you
     Bbm                  F     Bbm                 C7
The words will never show, the you I've come to know
       F                     C               Cm       F7   Bb
If a face could launch a thousand ships,then where am I to go
         Bbm              F          Bbm                   C
There's no one home but you, you're all that's left me, too
 
C#-  Dm       Db+     F/C            Bb6
And when my love for life is running dry
     A-       D7       G-     C7
You come and pour yourself on me
 
if a man could be two places at one time, I'd be with you
tommorrow and today, beside you all the way
If the world should stop revolving spinning slowly down to die
I'd spend the end with you, and when the world was through
 
Then one by one the stars would all go out
      A-     D7      Gm7    C    F
Then you and I would simply fly away

Em                D       Em                     D
  Nights in white satin       never reaching the end
C              G          F                    Em
  Letters I've written        never meaning to send
Em           D            Em                    D
  Beauty I'd always missed    with these eyes before
C               G         F                  Em
  Just what the truth is      I can't say anymore

CHORUS
        A               C
Cause I love you, yes I love you
           Em           D      Em       D
Ohhh how I love you

Gazing at people, some hand in hand
Just what I'm going through they can't understand
Some try to tell me thoughts they cannot defend
Just what you want to be, you'll be in the end

CHORUS

CHORUS

Verse 1
D		   A		G	     	 A
Look into my eyes, you will see what you mean to me
	    D	   	       A 		 G
Search your heart, search your soul and when you find me there, 
G      D	 A
you'll search no more

(A)   Em		     D/F#   Em/G
Don't tell me it's not worth trying for
D/F#  	  Em			 D/F#  Em/G
You can't tell me it's not worth dying for
		  D		A		Dsus2
You know it's true, everything I do, I do it for you


Verse2
D		     A			     G			   Asus4  A
Look into your heart, you will find, there's nothing there to hide
(A)	     D		 A	       G		    D    A
Take me as I am, take my life, I would give it all, I would sacrifice

(A)   Em		     D	      Em  D/E
Don't tell me it's not worth fighting for
(D/E)   Em			 D	Em
I can't help it, there's nothing I want more
(Em)		  D		A		D     Dsus  D
You know it's true, everything I do, I do it for you


Bridge
D	C	     F		       C		G
There's no love like your love, and no other could give more love
	D		A		      E		    A
There's no where unless you're there, all the time, all the way


Solo
G	D    Dsus	D	G	D     Dsus	D


Last Chorus:

D	     Em				   A
Oh you can't tell me it's not worth trying for
   	Em			       A
I can't help it there's nothing I want more
G	     D			A		      G
Yeah I would fight for you, I'd lie for you, walk the wire for you
	 Gm
Yeah I'd die for you
	      D			 Asus A     G  G6		D
You know it's true, everything I do,    oh,         I do it for you

Chorus:            D     D6
        I love you period

        D    D6   D    D6      A     A6
        Do you love me question mark

         A     A6     A     A6     E    E6
        Please, Please exclamation point

         E      E6     E    E6    A      A6  etc.
        I want to hold you in parenthesis

		     Ebm
		If I fell in love with you
		          D
		Would you promise to be true
		         Db Bbm
		And help me understand
		            Ebm
		'Cause I've been in love before 
		    D
		And found that love is more
		     Em           A
		Than just holding hands

		     D    Em F#m      Em
		If I give my heart to you
		  A                     D  Em F#m
		I must be sure from the very  start
		     Em        A                 D   Em  A
		That you would love me more than her

		     D     Em F#m
		If I trust in you
		   Em            A
		Oh please, don't run and hide
		      D   Em  F#m
		If I love you too
		   Em            A                  D9
		Oh please, don't hurt my pride like her
		                           G
		Cause I couldn't stand the pain
		    Gm                        D           A7
		And I would be sad if our new love was in vain


		     D    Em     F#m
		So I hope you'll see 
		     Em      A     
		That I would love to love you
		D   Em   F#m      Em
		And that she will cry
		     A                 D
		When she learns we are two
		     Gm      C         D
		If I fell in love with you

		D            D(C#bass)        D   C        G   D
		I once had a girl or should I say she once had me
		D            D(C#bass)          D    C     G   D
		She showed me her room isn't it good Norwegian wood

		    Dm                                         G
		She asked me to stay and she told me to sit anywhere
		    Dm                                           Em   A
		But I looked around and I noticed there wasn't a chair

		D          D(C#bass)     D    C        G   D
		I sat on a rug biding my time drinking her wine
		D               D(C#bass)        D    C         G   D
		We talked until two and then she said it's time for bed

		    Dm                                               G
		She told me she worked in the morning and started to laugh
		  Dm                                                Em   A
		I told her I didn't and crawled off to sleep in the bath

		D           D(C#bass)   D    C         G   D
		And when I awoke I was alone this bird had flown
		D          D(C#bass)     D    C    G    D
		So I lit a fire isn't it good Norwegian wood

		Bb        F                     C               G
		Maybe I'm amazed at the way you love me all the time
		Bb        F                   C        Erun
		Maybe I'm afraid of the way I love you
		Bb        F                       C                G
		Maybe I'm amazed athe the way you pulled me out of time
		    Bb           F
		And hung me on a line
		Ab        G                          C
		Maybe I'm amazed at the way I really need you


		D           Dmaj7                 Ddim7
	CHORUS:	Maybe I'm a man and maybe I'm a lonely man 
	   |	
	   |	Who's in the middle of something
	   |	G                                 Dm7
	   |	That he dosen't really understand
	   |	D           Dmaj7                      Ddim7
	   |	Maybe I'm a man and maybe you're the only woman
	   |	
	   |	Who could ever help me
	   |	G                                Dm7
	   |	Baby won't you help me understand


		LEAD
    
		REPEAT CHORUS

		Bb        F                        C               G
		Maybe I'm amazed at the way you're with me all the time
		Bb        F                   C        Erun
		Maybe I'm afraid of the way I leave you
		Bb        F                     C               G
		Maybe I'm amazed at the way you help me sing my song
		    Bb                F
		You right me when I'm wrong
		Ab                      G            C
		Maybe I'm amazed at the way I really need you


		LEAD

                   Dm           Dm(maj7)  Dm7    Dm6
                If I could save time in a bottle
                    Gm6                          A7
                The first thing that I'd like to do
                      Dm         Dm7      B-       Gm7    Dm
                Is to save every day till eternity passes away
                        Gm              A7
                Just to spend them with you.

                   Dm           Dm(maj7)  Dm7    Dm6
                If I could make days last forever
                    Gm6                          A7
                If words could make wishes come true
                      Dm         Dm7      B-       Gm7    Dm
                I'd save every day like a treasure and then
                        Gm              A7
                Again, I would spend them with you.


                          D              Dmaj7
Chorus:         But there never seems to be enough time
     |             D6                D                   G       Gmaj7
     |          To do the things you want to do Once you find them
     |  Em7  A7      D             Dmaj7         
     |          I've looked around enough to know
     |               D6               D                  G         Gmaj7 Em7 A7
     |          That you're the one I want to go through time with.


                   Dm          Dm(maj7) Dm7    Dm6
                If I had a box just for wishes
                    Gm6                        A7
                And dreams that had never come true
                    Dm           Dm7   B-             Gm7    Dm
                The box would be empty except for the memory
                       Gm              7
                Of how they were answered by you

                (CHORUS)

    
    
        Here's a couple from the Crue for her....
    
    90,000 screaming Watts
    Honey dripping from her Pot
    Fill her up to the top tonight
    Tonight, I need a lover Tonight.
    
    
    The Taste of love it might be yours
    Slide down my knees and taste my sword.
    Tonight, Tonight, I need a lover tonight. :-)
    
    If that ones to rough, Here's the song I had for my first dance at my
    wedding.
    
      Without you, in my life.
      My nights and days are gray
      If I could reach out and touch the rain
      It just wouldn't be the same.
    
      Without you my nights are lost
      I'd slip down from the top
      Dadadadadadada
    
    Chappy
      

Love I get so lost, sometimes
days pass and this emptiness fille my heart
when I want to run away
I drive off in my car
but whichever way I go
I come to the place you are

Chorus:
       All my instincts, they return
       and the grand facade, so soon will burn
       without a noise, without my pride
       I reach out from the inside
       In your eyes, The light the heat
       In your eyes, I am complete
       In your eyes, I see the doorway to a thousand churches
       In your eyes, The resolution of all the fruitless searches
       In your eyes, I see the light and the heat
       In your eyes, Oh, I want to be that complete
       I want to touch the light the heat I see in your eyes

Love, I don't like to see so much pain
So much wasted and this moment keeps slipping away
I get so tired of working so hard for our survival
I look to the time with you to keep me awake and alive

Chorus

In your eyes,  In your eyes,
In your eyes,  In your eyes,
In your eyes,  In your eyes,

		C             Bb                 F
		After all the jacks are in their boxes
		C                   Bb          F
		And the clowns have all gone to bed
		C                      Bb            F
		You can hear happiness staggering on down the street
		G         Bb         Eb E F
		Footsteps dressed in red
		G       Bb            Eb E F  Eb E F
		And the wind whispers Mary

		C          Bb       F
		A broom is drearily sweeping
		C                       Bb          F
		Up the broken peices of yesterday's life
		C           Bb       F
		Somewhere a queen is weeping
		G           Bb          Eb E F
		Somewhere a king has no wife
		G            Bb    Eb E F  Eb E F
		And the wind cries Mary


 		LEAD  |: F  Eb  Bb  Ab :| 3x    G  Bb  Db  F


		C                       Bb     F
		The traffic lights turn blue tomorrow
		C                       Bb         F
		And shine the emptyness down on my bed
		C               Bb   F
		The tiny island sags downstream
		G                   Bb       Eb E F
		Cause the life that lived is dead
		G            Bb      Eb E F  Eb E F
		And the wind screams Mary


		C             Bb     F
		Will the wind ever remember
		C                Bb           F
		The names it has blown in the past
		C                        Bb           F
		With its crutch, its old age, and its wisdom
		G                         Bb     Eb E F
		It whispers no, this will be the last
		G            Bb    Eb E F  Eb E F  Eb E F  Eb E F
		And the wind cries Mary

Gawd, it reminds me of some gigs I've played with wedding bands....8^)

And those are some gigs I'd much rather forget.....


'Saw

    
    Where is Mac when we really need him?

    C'mon!  Not while I'm eating lunch, guys.
    
    Mark.

     	Pb				  Pbm
     Feelings, nothing more than (pause) feelings......



     Neal-yakking

    I'm gettin' the urge to writelock and delete.

we could of course move it to another note, or even stop it altogether - did
I just say that??


The Crazy Met

Like it matters......

    Who is Jessica and why all dese damn songs ?
    
    John "D Cowboys" R.

>    Who is Jessica and why all dese damn songs ?
>    
>    John "D Cowboys" R.


Don't ask, or I'll get another mail message.......

    A "friend" of 'Saw's...

Anybody know what the German expression for "Angel of Death" is?

I'm thinking it's something like "Die TodtEngel", but I might be wrong....


no news yet....

    Someone please send me mail on what this is all about.  I want to know
    who Jessica is !!!  I've had to read all these damn songs and now you
    is driving me mad with anticipation.  
    
    John "D Cowboys" R.

    I'd say it's a Long story...
    

I sent mail explaining things; fans of the Cowboys need all the
help they can get.

The Crazy Met

I'll say it ONCE MORE.

	Drop it.

I'm NOT kidding.

    Whatsa matta, 'Saw.  It's just JNing.