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Title:Sports 93-96 Archive. No new notes allowed
Notice:Chainsaw's last standSPORTS_97
Moderator:HBAHBA::HAAS
Created:Mon Jan 11 1993
Last Modified:Tue Apr 15 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:302
Total number of notes:117855

250.0. "FLORIDA PANTHERS note" by ROCK::GRONOWSKI (the dream is always the same...) Wed Oct 25 1995 10:32

    
    Florida Panthers note!
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250.1ROCK::GRONOWSKIthe dream is always the same...Wed Oct 25 1995 10:334
250.2IMBETR::DUPREZIt's pancake time!Wed Oct 25 1995 11:504
Groaner, you won't even need to jump back and forth off of this bandwagon -
the Panthers have a solid defense and an excellent goalie that they've got
signed for a while...
250.3Gronowski - the new Bandwagon KingOUTSRC::HEISERwatchman on the wallWed Oct 25 1995 14:021
250.4SLEEPR::MAIEWSKIWed Oct 25 1995 14:175
  So what sport is this?

  Never heard of these guys.

  George
250.5CAM::WAYNine to the front, six to the rearWed Oct 25 1995 14:277
>
>  So what sport is this?
>
>  Never heard of these guys.


Hockey eh....
250.6ROCK::GRONOWSKIthe dream is always the same...Wed Oct 25 1995 14:4116
250.7maybe after NASCAR's overHBAHBA::HAASconched outWed Oct 25 1995 14:465
Carolina is really on a roll!

Oh hockey? Never mind....

TTom
250.8just joggin' yer memoryMKOTS3::tcc122.mko.dec.com::longSome gave all...Wed Oct 25 1995 15:337
>    3. Browns suck, but not as much as Pats.

	Ahh... didn't these two teams play already this season?
	Groaner, do you recall what the outcome was?


	billl
250.9OUTSRC::HEISERwatchman on the wallWed Oct 25 1995 15:534
250.10facts is factsROCK::GRONOWSKIthe dream is always the same...Wed Oct 25 1995 15:586
250.11...when they're factsIMBETR::DUPREZIt's pancake time!Wed Oct 25 1995 16:2320
You could dispute the first one - it's a pretty subjective measure.

The second one is a fact - a count of championships is quantifiable.

The third could be disputed - again, it's a subjective measure.  Most New
Yorkers would say the Red Sox are the choke masters of the universe.

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A beautiful reply - three references to the Phoenix Suns and none to the
Florida Panthers by the author of the base note.

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Back to the topic:

Did the Panthers pick up any scorers this offseason to complement their
defensive prowess.  If they're not careful, they'll become the tropical
version of the Bruins...
250.12ROCK::GRONOWSKIthe dream is always the same...Fri Nov 17 1995 11:062
250.13IMBETR::DUPREZWill work for sleep..Fri Nov 17 1995 11:361
Your Browns are making the rest of the NFL look pathetic, too... :-)
250.14ROCK::GRONOWSKII've always been a closet Steeler fan - even though they suck!Thu Dec 14 1995 12:243
250.15My nephew's team could beat those heartless bumsAD::HEATHThe albatross and whales they are my brotherThu Dec 14 1995 15:425
    
    
      Goin out on limb there aren't ya Paul.
    
    Jerry
250.16IMBETR::DUPREZWill work for sleep..Fri Dec 15 1995 12:284
>    Look for the Panthers to paste the hapless Bruins tonight in the Smelly
>    Feet Center.

Stay in the chip business... :-)
250.17OUTSRC::HEISERwatchman on the wallFri Dec 15 1995 13:371
250.18ROCK::GRONOWSKII've always been a closet Steeler fan - even though they suck!Fri Dec 15 1995 13:384
250.19ROCK::GRONOWSKII've always been a closet Steeler fan - even though they suck!Fri Dec 15 1995 13:413
250.20IMBETR::DUPREZWill work for sleep..Fri Dec 15 1995 13:465
I've got to give you credit, Groaner - you're really sticking to your
bandwagon team for this year.

I have enough of a clue about hockey to not try and predict the games... :-)
250.22AKOCOA::BREENFri Dec 15 1995 14:259
    Well for those without a clue to the Bruins, Adam Oates is obviously
    the key.  When he's healthy and playing there's a world of difference
    on that team.
    
    It also seems that Lacher to the Bruins was the same as McGuire (the
    punter before Walton, that's him right?) was to the Patriots.
    
    btw - Whatever happened to the Sharks?  I guess that Russian experiment
    of theirs is over.
250.23OUTSRC::HEISERwatchman on the wallFri Dec 15 1995 14:513
250.24B's gotta make a deal for a real NHL goalieAD::HEATHThe albatross and whales they are my brotherFri Dec 15 1995 16:068
    
    
      Yea Oates had a great game.  4 goals and a helper.  Only question I
    have is 5-1 in da third period and the B's win 6-4.  Cable went out so
    not sure exactly how it happened but seems like Lacher the sieve gave
    up 3 softies and da B's added an empty netter.
    
    Jerry
250.25PCBUOA::MORGANFri Dec 15 1995 16:3710
    I saw most of the 3rd, Jerry.  Lacher couldn't be faulted on the first
    3rd period goal.  Puck took a few too many caroms.  The other two were
    questionable, but the bottom line is the B's went into a shell in the
    3rd and defensively were running around in their own end, which has
    happened way too often this year.  The last goal wasn't an open netter.  
    Stevens was coming up the right side and when he got to the top of the 
    circle, backhanded a pretty pass right to Oates in the middle and he 
    banged it home. 
    
    					Steve
250.261995 edition only/ Kasper must goAD::HEATHThe albatross and whales they are my brotherFri Dec 15 1995 18:075
    
    
     So basically the B's where the B's.
    
    Jerry
250.27ROCK::GRONOWSKIFri May 31 1996 13:133
    
    They're not laughing anymore!
    
250.28even the owner's wife was getting into itMKOTS3::tcc122.mko.dec.com::longBeat em BucsFri May 31 1996 14:028
	While I was watching the game last night I tried
	intently to figure out the "flying rubber rats"
	thang.  Is this some sort of local radio gimmick?
	Could someone please 'splain this to me?



	billl
250.29IMBETR::DUPREZIt's Baseball And You're An AmericanFri May 31 1996 14:056
Before a game, there was a rat in the locker room.  Scott Mellanby killed
it with his stick, then went out and scored 2(?) goals.  The story made it
to the media, the fans caught on, etc.

I think it's fun, except that they have to clean up the ice after a goal.
You could say the same for hat tricks, but they happen less often.
250.30MYLIFE::mccarthyMike McCarthy SHR3-1/P32 237-2468Fri May 31 1996 14:058
Early in the season, one of the Panthers (Scott Mellanby?)
killed a rat in the locker room (I think via a wrist shot to
the wall).

They then went on a winning streak, and the legend 
was born.

Mike
250.31I don't get it!~HBAHBA::HAASmore madness, less horrorFri May 31 1996 14:2821
There's a couple of things about hokey that I don't get.

In the NBA you toss something on the playing surface and you get tossed
and/or locked up. The NFL has outlawed throwing snowballs.

But in hokey, you can pretty much throw anything including up on the ice
after a score. I kinda like the octopi. Rats would be fine but I caint
see plastic rats. And what the hail was it that the 'Burgherites were
throwing the other night?

And another thing I don't understand about hokey is that normally when
you come up fast behind someone and knock the shit outta of 'em, breaking
most of the bones in their face, you get arrested. In hokey it standard
fare. I can understand that the rules of the game would tolerate it but I
don't see why the guy who made the hit is still not subject to local laws
against doing purposeful, bodily harm to another.

But what the hey, I also don't get the plan for D.E.C., if'n in fack
there is one...

TTom
250.32MKOTS3::tcc122.mko.dec.com::longBeat em BucsFri May 31 1996 14:337
	Okay.  If'n I was on the Pathaers I would appreciate
	the breather the delay would get you.  But If we were
	on a roll I'd consider it a real "mo" breaker.



	billl
250.33IMBETR::DUPREZIt's Baseball And You're An AmericanFri May 31 1996 14:3411
>And another thing I don't understand about hokey is that normally when
>you come up fast behind someone and knock the shit outta of 'em, breaking
>most of the bones in their face, you get arrested. In hokey it standard
>fare. I can understand that the rules of the game would tolerate it but I
>don't see why the guy who made the hit is still not subject to local laws
>against doing purposeful, bodily harm to another.

There was a case a while back where a player was brought into a Minneapolis
court after a particularly vicious hit during a North Stars game.  (Amazingly
enough, I believe the player brought in played for the North Stars' 
opponent :-)
250.34MKOTS3::tcc122.mko.dec.com::longBeat em BucsFri May 31 1996 14:366
	At the igloo for game 5 the local were chucking
	rat traps out onto the ice.  A bit much I'd say.



	billl
250.35ROCK::GRONOWSKIFri May 31 1996 14:393
    
    Hockey is not a real sports, its entertainment.  Its like big time
    wrastling on ice!
250.36SNAX::ERICKSONFri May 31 1996 14:419
    
    	Throwing hats on the ice after a hat trick has been happening for
    years and I don't mind it. As far as throwing rats on the ice after
    every goal, Florida should be assessed a 2 minute delay of game penalty
    EVERY time it happens. Since Florida is an expansion team, they need
    the gimmic to get fans to attend the games, while its 90 degrees
    outside.
    
    Ron
250.37old time hokeyHBAHBA::HAASmore madness, less horrorFri May 31 1996 14:4111
Rat  Traps. Now I bet it's a lot of fun to skate over one of them. Or how
bout catch one in the eye. A goddam laugh riot!~

I heard of old time hokey fans who used to heat up change and toss it on
the ice. They take tweezers and hold a coin to a flame. Toss it out there
and it melts into the ice. A guy comes along skating full bore and hits
the danged thing and does a skewed endo. The fans were said to piss their
pants. Problem was that you couldn't really be sure it was one of the
opponents but what the hey, a small price to pay to be a fan.

TTom
250.38IMBETR::DUPREZIt's Baseball And You're An AmericanFri May 31 1996 14:5312
Doing my best George imitation:

>    	Throwing hats on the ice after a hat trick has been happening for
>    years and I don't mind it. As far as throwing rats on the ice after
>    every goal, Florida should be assessed a 2 minute delay of game penalty
>    EVERY time it happens.

How does a tradition become a tradition?  Somebody does it once, and it 
catches on.  Once upon a time, throwing hats on the ice was a new thing.

If a penalty is given for throwing rats, a penalty should be given for throwing
hats.  After all, the words rhyme...
250.39get with the gameHBAHBA::HAASmore madness, less horrorFri May 31 1996 14:597
I think it's all very childish and the nexted thing you know them guys is
gonna take off their skates.

And speaking of skates, I don't understand why someone doesn't throw them
on the ice. Both the shoeboot kind and the nasty looking fish kind.

TTom
250.40ROCK::GRONOWSKIFri May 31 1996 15:175
    
    Nexted thing you know and the lousy teams in the league that are
    hurting for fans (example - Bruins), will start having ice dancing
    and crap between periods!  Problem is, ice dancing is a real sport,
    so it would ruin the carnaval/circus atmosphere of the WWF ice brawl.
250.41taking exceptionHBAHBA::HAASmore madness, less horrorFri May 31 1996 15:3511
>    ..., will start having ice dancing
>    and crap between periods!  Problem is, ice dancing is a real sport,
>    so it would ruin the carnaval/circus atmosphere of the WWF ice brawl.

I don't know about you but I rarely crap between periods. I'm usually
content to get up, pass one beer and get another.

I think that those who are comparing NHL to WWF missed a cogent point.
People don't really get hurt in the WWF. Not on purpose.

TTom
250.42MKOTS3::tcc122.mko.dec.com::longBeat em BucsFri May 31 1996 16:057
>I think that those who are comparing NHL to WWF missed a cogent point.

	Considerin' the individual it wouldn't zactly be a first(ed).



	billl
250.43ROCK::GRONOWSKIFri May 31 1996 17:209
    
    When hockey grows up and people in America give a crap about hockey -
    meaning a national television contract, maybe people will watch.
    Until then, it comes below figure skating and "candle(pin) blowing"
    (tm)... not that candlepin blowing is a real sport... i often wonder if
    the people who watch candlepin blowing would also watch tiddly winks
    or dust form on a clean surface or FISHING!  Now there's a good one.
    Heck, its freaking boring enough to fish, but to watch fishing on 
    TV... or playing a fishing computer game... what gives wif dat?
250.44CAM::WAYand keep me steadfastFri May 31 1996 17:226
>    meaning a national television contract, maybe people will watch.


I didn't realize the FOX and ESPN were just local.  Thanks for clearing that up
for me....

250.45NQOS01::nqsrv219.nqo.dec.com::may_brBRUCE MAYFri May 31 1996 20:118
>Rat  Traps. Now I bet it's a lot of fun to skate over one of them. Or how
>bout catch one in the eye. A goddam laugh riot!~

Cheese wizz, TTOm, are you the reincarnation of my mother?  Nexted thing 
you'll be harping about those guys skating around the ice too fast with 
sticks in their hands.

brews
250.46THEMAX::JACKSONSet the drag just right!Fri May 31 1996 21:2518
      Groaner man,  watch the fishing chit!  You don't like it probably
    'cause you can't tie a line or worm a hook.  Besides, what a great
    reason to get out on the water, throw in a line or 2, troll and drink
    gallons of beer and still be lazy like a 1st baseman, the only difference
    is, I'm not burdened with all those taxes.
    
      Now I have been a closet hockey fan for many a year, but now that the
    Av's are in Co. I have taken even more of an interest, I'm actually
    learning more rules as well as enjoying watching more of a manly sport
    vs something like baseball;-)
    
      Football hasn't started yet, my Nuggets gagged on the chicken bone,
    so what else is there?  A buddy of mine came over last saturday night
    and wanted to watch the Rockies before the Avalanche, can you believe
    the nerve.  The other 8 of us were ready to take him out back and roll
    him in the dog doooo.  8-1 ruled.
      
      Tim
250.47ROCK::GRONOWSKIFri May 31 1996 21:374
    
    Hey pal, my brother holds the current world record for largest channel
    catfish caught, so don't tell me about fishing.
    
250.48THEMAX::JACKSONSet the drag just right!Fri May 31 1996 22:401
      So your brother can tie a line, can you?
250.49ROCK::GRONOWSKISat Jun 01 1996 01:223
    
    I've caught a fish or two in my life, but I'm not obsessed with it like
    my brother is.
250.50THEMAX::JACKSONSet the drag just right!Sat Jun 01 1996 02:086
      I wish I had the time to be obsessed with fishin', but a wife and 3
    kids, well you get the picture....
    
      I'm going to try and get out sunday.
    
      Tim
250.51ROCK::GRONOWSKISat Jun 01 1996 16:483
    
    The only way to get it to work is if the wife is obsessed as well, or
    at least enjoys the activity.
250.52ROCK::GRONOWSKIMon Jun 03 1996 03:282
    
    They're not laughing anymore
250.53Would've expected Karen to pick up on thisMUNDIS::SSHERMANClean living and a fast outfieldMon Jun 03 1996 13:217
>   Hey pal, my brother holds the current world record for largest channel
>   catfish caught, so don't tell me about fishing.

Hey, pal, my sister has a three-year-old daughter, so don't tell me about
motherhood.

Steve
250.54ROCK::GRONOWSKIThu Nov 07 1996 19:212