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Title:Sports 93-96 Archive. No new notes allowed
Notice:Chainsaw's last standSPORTS_97
Moderator:HBAHBA::HAAS
Created:Mon Jan 11 1993
Last Modified:Tue Apr 15 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:302
Total number of notes:117855

168.0. "TCM's Whiney Lou Holtz Sandbagging Wussyman note" by FRETZ::HEISER (Maranatha!) Tue May 24 1994 17:57

    After seeing Tommy's last reply, I couldn't resist since I owe TCM this
    one.
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168.1Dear Wussyperson?HBAHBA::HAASMaybe too much Goody's PowderTue May 24 1994 18:010
168.2FRETZ::HEISERMaranatha!Tue May 24 1994 18:031
    Anyone have the current top Beaches for Sandbaggers guide?
168.3METSNY::francusRangers,Knicks,Mets in '94Tue May 24 1994 18:0443
exhibit #1 from 10.1649 entered by The Crazy Met at 16:26 on April 25th
before the NBA playoffs began:


	1 Atlanta	|	
	----------------|Atlanta
	8 Miami		|
					Atlanta
	4 Orlando	|
	----------------|Orlando
	5 Indiana	|

							New York
	2 New York	|
	----------------|New York
	7 New Jersey	|
					New York
	3 Chicago	|
	----------------|Cleveland
	6 Cleveland	|

									New York

	1 Seattle	|
	----------------|Seattle
	8 Denver	|
					San Antonio
	4 San Antonio	|
	----------------|San Antonio
	5 Utah		|
							San Antonio

	2 Houston	|
	----------------|Houston		
	7 Portland	|
					Houston
	3 Phoenix	|
	----------------|Golden State
	6 Golden State	|

    

168.4CAMONE::WAYBleaumeTue May 24 1994 18:051
I like this note......
168.5naked truthHBAHBA::HAASMaybe too much Goody's PowderTue May 24 1994 18:075
>    Anyone have the current top Beaches for Sandbaggers guide?

Better check with ::NATURISM.

TTom
168.6pardon the punFRETZ::HEISERMaranatha!Tue May 24 1994 18:081
    is that a members only conference?
168.7MSBCS::BRYDIETCM - World's Greatest SandbaggerTue May 24 1994 18:099
    
     So what? You also had a Mets In '93 p-name. How grounded in
    reality was that? You've earned this topic for your unmatched
    sandbagging first during the Islanders series (remember "It
    should be noted that the Islanders are one of two teams that 
    have come back from 3-0"? That one is like DiMaggio's 57 game
    hitting streak. It will probably never ever be matched.) and 
    then during the Caps series. With this well-deserved note, the 
    name of The Crazy Sandbagger will live in posterity.
168.8MikeH, for beaches: on word - BaliMETSNY::francusRangers,Knicks,Mets in '94Tue May 24 1994 18:1030
exhibit #2 from csteam::sports_91, 7.1763 entered by The Crazy Met
on April 20, 1992.

    I know this is a bit late but I was away, anyway only 1 game played
    and the picks in round1 should not surprise anyone.
    
    Rangers over Devils
    Washingot over Pitt (hope I am wrong
    	Rangers over Washington in 6
    
    Montreal over Hartford in 5
    Boston over Buffalo in 7
    	Montreal over Boston in 6
    
    		Rangers over Montreal in 6
    
    Detroit over Minnisota in 6
    Chicago over St. Louis in 6
    	Detroit over Chicago in 7
    
    Vancouver over Winnipeg in 6
    Edmonton over LA in 7
    	Edmonton over Vancouve rin 7
    
    		Edmonton over Detroit in 6
    
    			Rangers over Edmonton in 6
    
    The Crazy Met

168.9METSNY::francusRangers,Knicks,Mets in '94Tue May 24 1994 18:129
Mets in '93, etc is a hope, not a prediction.

Thought that it was obvious enough even for you Tommy.

:-( gotta explain everything to some people. It is a tough job
but someone has to make sure you get an education :-(

The Crazy Met

168.10exMSBCS::BRYDIETCM - World's Greatest SandbaggerTue May 24 1994 18:1628
    
     
      One of the notes that earned, TCS that title. Read this all would-be
     sandbaggers. This is what you have to shoot for...
    
                <<< CAM::$1$DUA5:[NOTES$LIBRARY]SPORTS.NOTE;1 >>>
                                  -< SPORTS >-
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Note 44.73               Official New York Rangers Note                73 of 396
METSNY::francus "Mets in '94"                        16 lines  11-APR-1994 16:27
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Ain't no sandbaggin'

If you had ever followed the Islanders vs Rangers games since the 1976(I think
that was the Isles first year in the playoffs)playoffs you would understand why
the last team the Rangers want to meet in the first round, as heavy favorites,
is the Islanders.

Only a place that has 2 teams in the same sport that compete against
one another can really have this kind of a rivalry. Sure there are
inter-city rivalries that are very intense; but intra-city rivalries
are a different type of thing.

The Crazy Met



    
168.11METSNY::francusRangers,Knicks,Mets in '94Tue May 24 1994 18:184
hey, 44.73 is a classic, thanks for reposting it.

The Crazy Met

168.12Intellectual dishonesty at its worst/best!CTHQ::LEARYIt'sBeenALongTimeComing...Tue May 24 1994 18:5612
    I object yo' honorable moderators.
    
    Lou Holtz is neither a whiner or a wussymain. 
    He is a sandbagger.
    I hereby make a motion to strike the woids 'whiney' and 'wussymain'
    from this here title if the name Lou Holtz is to remain.
    
    Either that or I file a class action suit. Cuz the done perpetrators
    of this title have no class and Ah demands action!
    
    MikeL
    
168.13HANNAH::ASHELet me see shake yo tailfeather...Tue May 24 1994 19:003
    Quit yer whinin'....  didn't he ask to have John Dockery banned from
    the sidelines for asking tough questions after games?
    
168.14the DEC wayFRETZ::HEISERMaranatha!Tue May 24 1994 19:011
    Well let's put it to a vote.
168.15childish topics require a sense of humorMETSNY::francusRangers,Knicks,Mets in '94Tue May 24 1994 19:015
yo' MikeL if I ain't complaining but going with the flow you
have no business bitchin'.

The Crazy Met

168.16going with the flowFRETZ::HEISERMaranatha!Tue May 24 1994 19:021
    Yeah, Bobby Knight said something about that once.
168.17METSNY::francusRangers,Knicks,Mets in '94Tue May 24 1994 19:046
> Yeah, Bobby Knight said something about that once.
                                       
????

The Crazy Met

168.18I'll accede to mods' decision, not local riffraff!!CTHQ::LEARYIt'sBeenALongTimeComing...Tue May 24 1994 19:061
    
168.19HA!FRETZ::HEISERMaranatha!Tue May 24 1994 19:072
    The mods can't change a title without the author's permission and they
    ain't ND fans either.
168.20MSBCS::BRYDIETCM - World's Greatest SandbaggerTue May 24 1994 19:116
    
      Lou whined about being passed over for the MNC. "Hey, Lou!
     You lost to Boston Friggin' College! You asswipe!" If you doubt
     that he's a wussymain (once again) go back and see ND's scheduled
     opponents through 1998. Yup, he's a whinin' wussymain of a sand-
     bagger. Of that there can be no doubt.
168.21CAMONE::WAYBleaumeTue May 24 1994 19:2519
Well, this mod is a fan of Notre Dame.



Cheer, cheer for Old Notre Dame
Wake up the echoes cheering her name!
Send the volley cheer on high,
Shake down the thunder from the sky.
What though the odds be great or small
Old Notre Dame will win over all
While her loyal sons go marching onward to victory!




But, Lou sandbags almost as much as TCM, so I'll let the title stand....


'Saw
168.22METSNY::francusRangers,Knicks,Mets in '94Tue May 24 1994 19:277
> But, Lou sandbags almost as much as TCM, so I'll let the title stand....

more. that statement about Navy still beats
anything anyone in here has said.

The Crazy Met

168.23MSBCS::BRYDIETCM - World's Greatest SandbaggerTue May 24 1994 19:3727
    
       Lou's (and MikeL's) standard buildup of every team on their 
      usually pathetically weak schedule isn't even in the same league
      with the last paragraph of the note reprinted below. It is *that*
      paragraph, TCS that really got me and which forever sullied your 
      rep here in SPORTS.
    
    
                <<< CAM::$1$DUA5:[NOTES$LIBRARY]SPORTS.NOTE;1 >>>
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Note 44.172              Official New York Rangers Note               172 of 398
MSE1::FRANCUS "Mets in '94"                          12 lines  21-APR-1994 22:22
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    re: many,many back - a Tommy note
    
    Tommy just wanted to make sure you knew that the Islanders scored a
    goal tonight.
    
    I may have overestimated the threat the Islanders posed to the Rangers
    in the playoffs. However, I do wish to note that the Islanders are one
    of the only teams to come back from a 3-0 deficit and win a playoff
    series. The Islanders did it in 1975 against the Penguins.
    
    The Crazy Met
    
    
168.24HANNAH::ASHELet me see shake yo tailfeather...Tue May 24 1994 19:391
    I think Mike's referring to the " lay back and enjoy it" line...
168.25enhanced, if anythingMETSNY::francusRangers,Knicks,Mets in '94Tue May 24 1994 19:417
not sure what you're complaining about, Tommy; simply noted a fact
that the Islanders had come back from 3-0. But I forget you don't
like facts.

The Crazy Met

168.26CTHQ::LEARYIt'sBeenALongTimeComing...Tue May 24 1994 19:4310
    But sir! Point of clarification if I may..
    
    I do not object to "sandbagger"! It's the whiney and wussymain I
    do object to!!
    
    I await with bated breath yo' decision to which I will abide...
    Do not be swayed by these denizens of dishonesty!
    
    MikeL
    
168.27FRETZ::HEISERMaranatha!Tue May 24 1994 19:441
    Mike, they already shot down the whiney objections.
168.28METSNY::francusRangers,Knicks,Mets in '94Tue May 24 1994 19:446
hmm, actually you do have a point, don't remember myself or Lou
whining. but, let 'em have their childish fun, lot easier than
fighting it.

The Crazy Met

168.29MSBCS::BRYDIETCM - World's Greatest SandbaggerTue May 24 1994 19:455
    
     Of course you're not sure. Your team is up 3-0 in the series having
    only given up one goal all series long and you're voicing trepidation
    because the other team came back from a 3-0 deficit 19 years ago. If
    that ain't a wussymain...
168.30METSNY::francusRangers,Knicks,Mets in '94Tue May 24 1994 19:466
> I may have overestimated the threat the Islanders posed to the Ra

there 'ya go again ignoring relevant parts of a note.

The Crazy Met

168.31MSBCS::BRYDIETCM - World's Greatest SandbaggerTue May 24 1994 19:556
    
     I didn't ignore that. In fact, I remember complimenting you on your
    incredible grasp of the obvious. Nothing gets by you, TCS. The Rangers
    are up 3-0 and have only given up a single goal and you say "I may have
    overestimated the threat the Islanders posed to the Rangers." If that 
    ain't objective analysis at it's finest...
168.32will wonders never cease, first MikeH and Clinton and now .31METSNY::francusRangers,Knicks,Mets in '94Tue May 24 1994 19:586
well thank you, it has taken a while but you are finally coming
around to my point of view. I knew that eventually my hard and
time consuming effort would have some, albeit a small, payoff.

The Crazy Met

168.33PATE::MACNEALruck `n' rollTue May 24 1994 20:012
    .32 is making it even more obvious that TCM and ACChris graduated from
    the same school of reading comprehension and interpretation.
168.34CTHQ::LEARYIt'sBeenALongTimeComing...Tue May 24 1994 20:098
    No offense y'honor 'Saw, but the other mod (Mac) hasn't voiced his
    opion.. Do we need a quorum?
    
    I hereby request MtM(note I did not include the horrific 'f')
    commiserate with 'Saw and rwender moi a fair and just decision..
    
    MikeL
    
168.35MikeL really meant, every offense, 'Saw ....METSNY::francusRangers,Knicks,Mets in '94Tue May 24 1994 20:115
but no doubt the 'f' (for fair,right MikeL? :-) will be back once Mac decides
not to change the title.

The Crazy Met

168.36CNTROL::CHILDSI got them GhostTown BluesTue May 24 1994 20:4112
 I think Walt provided all the proof we need about Holtz' skirt wearing...

 speakin of skirts

 did ya hear they banned all miniskirts at the White House?



they got sick of looking at Hillary's balls.........


168.37Ah awaitCTHQ::LEARYIt'sBeenALongTimeComing...Tue May 24 1994 20:485
    No he didn't ask for John Dockery to be removed from the sideline.
    He objected to his questions, not his presence.
    
    MikeL
    
168.38title staysCNTROL::CHILDSI got them GhostTown BluesTue May 24 1994 23:337
 how about playing the inferior CU instead of ThugU a few backs to protect
 his MNC chance?

 definate WUSSY material there!!!

 ;^) 
168.39HANNAH::ASHELet me see shake yo tailfeather...Wed May 25 1994 01:423
    He objected to his questions and the BAM Collisworth was on the
    sidelines the nexted week...
    
168.40CAMONE::WAYBleaumeWed May 25 1994 13:0611
I like Lou Holtz on the Wally someone-or-other Automatic Golf Infomercial.

He's witty and funny, and doesn't sandbag at all....


MikeL, I have to be a bit objective and say that Lou does whine sometimes.
He's not a wussyman, but he does whine sometimes.....No reflection on a
great institution however....


fw
168.418^)CTHQ::LEARYIt'sBeenALongTimeComing...Wed May 25 1994 13:386
    How's about
    
    TCM's Occasionally Whiney Lou Holtz Sandbagging Note
    
    MikeL
    
168.42CAMONE::WAYBleaumeWed May 25 1994 14:2721
>    How's about
>    
>    TCM's Occasionally Whiney Lou Holtz Sandbagging Note
>    
>    MikeL


Well, with a lack of punctuation in the original title, it's difficult to
see who is being described as whiney.

It could be TCM's Whiney, Lou_Holtz_Sandbagging Note

Or it could be TCM's Whiney-Lou Holtz Sandbagging Note


All a matter of interpretation....


'Saw