Conference hbahba::cam_sports

    I'M BACK!
    
    

    
    	I'm takin' you out....

>    	I'm takin' you out....


My money's on Claybone.....

    Try as I might, I cain't get thru to SHARE:: via mail to mail ya my
    pick.
    
    Any idears????
    
    JaKe
    

    
    	Karen says try NM% nexted time.
    
    P.S. The network in HLO just bit the dust....

>  <<< Note 139.5 by SNAX::ERICKSON "The snow has melted, time to tee off!" >>>
                                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Time for a new p-name  8^) 8^) 8^)



>                        -< Karen from Ron's office... >-

Is this anything like Saw_for_Hawk?

    
'Saw

    Karen, get a outside-life....
    
    
    REk

    Karen, you really need to get a life... Livin' for my pick????
    
    REK

    
    	What about ties?  I say a tie counts as half a loss and half a
    	win.  It's conceivable you could have someone have a tie every
    	week and never be put out.
    
    Clay

We went through the tie debate lasted year.  I said that it should be like the 
"fun and amusement" football cards, where a tie is a loss.  The masses said that
a tie should be a tie, and I was out voted.

I remain in favor of a tie being a loss...

=Bob=

    Leave it to a Suns fan to,do the WRONG thing...
    
    REK
    
    PS Mike, send it to Karen Derry or else it wil not count....

    taken care of.  I haven't read the rest of this topic yet.

>                         -< did we decide about ties? >-

Yeah, only weenies wear 'em.....8^)

    For the people who don't have a clue...
    
    3 losses and you are OUT! Losses as in the point spread that the
    team you picked did not cover....
    
    Ties are brought in if you have 8 wins 3 losses and 2 ties and the
    person who has  9 wins 3 losses and 1 tie.. The perosn with 9 wins 
    wins...
    
    REK

    Bob, we went throught this about 4 years ago and it was decided
    that ties neither won nor lost.... Every year this pops up....
    
    
    
    REK

>    Bob, we went throught this about 4 years ago and it was decided
>    that ties neither won nor lost.... Every year this pops up....


A lot can change in 4 years.  Back then, we had MrT and BobHunt and
ACC Chris.

Now you've got, well, uh, um, er, uh.......

Well, a lot can change in 4 years.....

    Sounds like REK is volunteering to run the KOH this year.

    Too late Mac, Karen is running it this year...
    
    REK

    
    	Sorry REK.  We didn't know this *rule* was cast in stone or that
    	you're the ultimate authority for this contest.  We bow to thee.
    
    Claybone

    Not trying to make the rules Mac, just trying educate the poor
    souls who don't know the rules...
    
    REK

    Ah, go kiss a Billary (tm) pinup.
    
    Mark.

    Mark-mark of the Volvo fame, I do infact have poster of Hillary from
    the Spy Mag cover.... Now if I can get her signature on it....

    REK

    "Mark-Mark"...what's that?  A dog with a hair-lip?
    
    Mark.

    Feel it feel it.... feel da vibwations...
    

>    Feel it feel it.... feel da vibwations...

Yo, yo, yo, c'mawn, c'mawn, check out my undahweah!
    

    
    Baba Wawwa - Tho tew me, do you weally, weally weah ties?
    
    I wemain,
    munchin on da haih lip
    Kev
    

    Marky-Mark is (a hunk according to the teen mags...)
    Mark-Mark is the Leominster version..... You know... Plastic
    version from the plastic capital of the world....

    REK

>    Marky-Mark is (a hunk according to the teen mags...)

In reality, our own Mark Lufay.  He'll get mad at me for divulging the
truth, but I can say that.....


>    Mark-Mark is the Leominster version..... You know... Plastic
>    version from the plastic capital of the world....

Oh, I see.  Plastic, eh?

    Leominster ain't all bad.  My grandma lives there and I met my wife
    there.  Neither are Leominster natives though.

    I have been sent proof he drives a Maxima and has his own reserved
    parking space to go with the personalized plates...

>    I have been sent proof he drives a Maxima and has his own reserved
>    parking space to go with the personalized plates...

Rap stars are like that.

He just says he hunts and stuff like that to throw us off the track.

'Saw

    Cuz he doesn't know any better?
    

    
    	I beg to differ 'Saw.  I saw a picture of LeafyBeaver with a
    	beeeeutiful 8 point buck that he had taken.  I also know for
    	a fack(tm) that he's an avid duck/goose hunter.
    
    	I won't defend his choice of vehicles or chewing tobacco though!
    	He's on his own there.
    
    Claybone

>    	I beg to differ 'Saw.  I saw a picture of LeafyBeaver with a
>    	beeeeutiful 8 point buck that he had taken.  I also know for
>    	a fack(tm) that he's an avid duck/goose hunter.

Are you sure someone else didn't shoot that, and he just posed with
it for his Calvin Klein underwear ad?


>    	I won't defend his choice of vehicles or chewing tobacco though!
>    	He's on his own there.
    
Okay.


[No, seriously, I'm just kidding around.  I know Marky-Mark, uh, er,
Mark is a serious, accomplished hunter.   I'm just kiddin' around
because I know it drives him crazy when I call him Marky-Mark....8^)]


'Saw

    
    	Well, it's possible Archie shot it for him.... :*)
    
    Claybone

    Someone put his face on the photo like they do for the tabloid papers.

    Insert collective "I'm not that desperate!!!!"


    REK

    Where are the rest of the folks that were 0-1 in week 1?  C'mon Brydie,
    Lufay, et. al., show us how smart you are ;-)

Using the list in .57:

2-0-0	AKOCOA::BREEN
	WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M
	CSTEAM::FARLEY
	FRETZ::HEISER
	PFSVAX::JACOB
	KYDS01::LAZARUS
	MPGS::MCCARTHY
	CTHQ::MCCULLOUGH
	MIMS::ROLLINS_R

1-1-0	USDEV::TBLANCHARD
	MSBCS::BRYDIE
	SHARE::DERRY
	SNAX::ERICKSON
	SACAE1::francus 
	SCOMAN::GARRY
	QUASER::JACKSONTA
	CAPNET::LEFEBVRE
	MKFSB::LONG 
	BSS::G_MCINTOSH
	OURGNG::RIGGEN
	MKOTS4::STORY
	GENRAL::WADE
	CAM::WAY
	BIGQ::WEST

0-1-0	ROYALT::ASHE            49ers -6.5

0-2-0	SALEM::ALIZIO
	LJSRV2::BREEDEN
	CNTROL::CHILDS
	HBAHBA::HAAS
	ONOFRE::MAY_BR
	MPO::MCFALL
	DECWET::METZGER

Owing Picks:

1-0-0	USCTR1::KING

0-1-0	SPECXN::BROWN
	SALEM::DODA
	CSC32::M_MACGREGOR

    
    
    woooooo sounds like an armwrestling challenge.:-)
    
    
    Chap

Uhhh, I actually lost.  The Pack let me down, giving up a last minute field 
goal after leading by 10.

    Same here, Bob.  Pretty sorry, and the Pack had won 5 of their last 6
    against the Iggles.

      What about the 'aints??!?!?!?  31 to ZERO and they choke away the big
    lead to Hebert!  Anderson missed 2 FGs after setting the 25 fg record.
    
      Tim

All right, already! I'm oh-fer-2. How many times you gonna post it!?;-)

TTom

    some pretty impressive names in that 0-2 list!

    Just a note....   if you took Dallas this week -5 (or whatever it was)
    I'm putting you down for Dallas -6.5.  Send me another choice if ya
    don't like it.  (-:
    
    Karen

    Has the spread increased by 1 already with Emmitt under the fold?

The USA Today/Danny Sheridan line moved a point after this was announced.
I wouldn't be surprised it moved more if and when Dallas announces
whether he'll start or play.

TTom

    
    They are saying here that Smith will play.

Kev must be cheatin'

	Karen, 

	Enough of the public ridicule, thank you very much....

	Could you enter a list of the picks you've recieved?  I'm one of
	the glorious 1-2 folks and I think I already sent it.


	billl

    THanks Karen..
    

Boy, do we s*uk or what.....

REK

Week 4

QUASER::JACKSONTA	Houston -10   LOSER!
USCTR1::KING		Houston -10   LOSER!
WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M	Houston -10   LOSER!

BSS::G_MCINTOSH		NE +8.5   LOSER!
MPO::MCFALL		NE +8.5   LOSER!
SALEM::ALIZIO		NE +8.5   LOSER!
BIGQ::WEST		NE +8.5   LOSER!
KYDS01::LAZARUS		NE +8.5   LOSER!
MPGS::MCCARTHY		NE +8.5   LOSER!
CSTEAM::FARLEY		NE +8.5   LOSER!

PFSVAX::JACOB		Chicago -7   WINNER!
QUASER::JACKSONTA	Chicago -7   WINNER!
GENRAL::WADE		Chicago -7   WINNER!
HBAHBA::HAAS		Chicago -7   WINNER!

MKOTS4::STORY		Miami +6   WINNER!

OURGNG::RIGGEN		Cards +4.5  LOSER!
FRETZ::HEISER		Cards +4.5  LOSER!

SALEM::DODA		Cleveland -3   LOSER!
SHARE::DERRY		Cleveland -3   LOSER!
MSE1::FRANCUS		Cleveland -3   LOSER!
MSBCS::BRYDIE		Cleveland -3   LOSER!
CNTROL::CHILDS		Cleveland -3   LOSER!
CTHQ::MCCULLOUGH	Cleveland -3   LOSER!

OURGNG::RIGGEN		Indy +3   WINNER!
SCOMAN::GARRY		Indy +3   WINNER!

CNTROL::CHILDS		Seattle -3   WINNER!

WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M	GB +3   WINNER!

MPO::MCFALL		Atlanta -2

SNAX::ERICKSON		SF -1.5  LOSER!
MKFSA::LONG		SF -1.5  LOSER!

SPECXN::BROWN		NO +1.5   WINNER!

	Looks like there are more of US than THEM!


	billl

    Add me to that loser list - I had pats

Owe picks...                           
                                       
1-1 CAM::WAY	                       



Hey, I sent you three picks this morning!

JaKe,

'ya sell your soul to the devil, or somethin' ????

The Crazy Met

    
>>JaKe,

>>'ya sell your soul to the devil, or somethin' ????

>>The Crazy Met
    
    Cain't say right now.   Contracts, ya know.
    
    JaKe
    

    From what I've heard, some of you had problems sending me mail... It
    should be fixed now...

The problem is that everyone seems to be changing network addresses.

I used to have SHARE at 6.738 but now its 37.106. That's how come it
looks like 37994::DERRY instead o' SHARE::DERRY. FWIW, 37994 translates
into 37.106.

If'n you look around lately you'll see some other familiar node::users
with numbers for a node name. Very bad form, that.

TTom

>The problem is that everyone seems to be changing network addresses.
>
>I used to have SHARE at 6.738 but now its 37.106. That's how come it
>looks like 37994::DERRY instead o' SHARE::DERRY. FWIW, 37994 translates
>into 37.106.
>
>If'n you look around lately you'll see some other familiar node::users
>with numbers for a node name. Very bad form, that.

It's probably a CAM3 problem.  I've got our system manager's attention
about it, and he's supposed to update the network database....


'Saw

I don't think so Saw. 

For instance, Chappy is on WMOIS. We're in a_FFL together and all of a
sudden he shows up with some numbers before his name. Nothing to do with
CAM3. I think Mike Heiser's FRETZ went through the same thing. All of a
sudden he's number_something::HEISER and that's on VIA.

It looks like someone up in Networks North is playing spin the node
address.

TTom

    
    Since I can not send mail to Karen (currently unreachable), I will post
    my picks here.
    
    As a make-up for week two I take		San Diego -3.5
    As a make-up for week three I take		Philadelphia +1
    As a make-up for week four I take		New Orleans -3.5
    This week I take				Los Angeles Raiders +6.5
    
    All spreads taken from The Line.
    
    Marc
    

    I notice the line and the line used for pool is different (large) in
    two games:
    	jets - eagles (reversed (1))
    
    	kc - raiders  pool has it 1.5 and "line" had it 6(1/2? - can't see
    it now)
    
    on kc - I take that first line may have been sans joe; and now he's
    playing?
    
    A lot of little .5 diffs also but different sources would account for
    that.
    
    bill
    

Joe's been messing with the spread a lot this year. The Chiefs have been
listing him a tentatively questionable early each week. Then by gametime
it becomes apparent that he's gonna play.

Some have been moving the line in favor of the Chiefs opponent, some a
listing a line as if Joe will play and some are giving it the big NL (no
line).

TTom

    FRETZ disappeared off our local cluster after the last netupdate.  I
    sent the local registrar some hate mail since it's disappearing all
    over.  Somebody goofed in the last node database purge.

    Miami giving 4.5, Philly over Jets.
    
    Mark.

    
    Yabbit it seems that my electrons have an affinity for Karen and that
    Karen's receptive to my electrons 'cause I had no problem sending her
    some of my best 'trons!
    
    I remain,
    creating more 'trons all the time!
    Kev
    

I dunno all the details, but there is some kind of big node registration 
compliance thing goign on these days corporate wide.  I suspect that if 
certain areas were not re-registered by X date, they were dropped from
the networks database.

=Bob=

    Bob, yes and it hinges on your nodes being DECInspect compliant.
    
    Mike (local Mr. DECInspect)

Week 5

USDEV::TBLANCHARD	Dallas -11

CSTEAM::FARLEY		SF -9

MPGS::MCCARTHY		Detriot -7

USCTR1::KING		KC -6.5

CSC32::M_MACGREGOR	LARaiders +6.5

USDEV::TBLANCHARD	Buffalo -6

HBAHBA::HAAS		Chicago -5.5
USDEV::TBLANCHARD	Chicago -5.5
CAM::WAY		Chicago -5.5

MIMS::ROLLINS_R		Atlanta +5.5

CAPNET::LEFEBVRE	Miami -4.5
AKOCOA::BREEN		Miami -4.5

SNAX::ERICKSON		NO -3.5
GENRAL::WADE		NO -3.5
CSC32::M_MACGREGOR	NO -3.5
SHARE::DERRY		NO -3.5
CSOA1::JACOB		NO -3.5
ONOFRE::MAY_BR		NO -3.5

CSC32::M_MACGREGOR	SD -3.5
WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M	SD -3.5
CAM::WAY		SD -3.5

SCOMAN::GARRY		Jets -1

CAPNET::LEFEBVRE	Philly +1
CSC32::M_MACGREGOR	Philly +1
MIMS::ROLLINS_R		Philly +1
ONOFRE::MAY_BR		Philly +1
CAM::WAY		Philly +1
METSNY::francus         Philly +1

	I guess we're stuck with sebding picks here till network gets fixed?

  Give me the saints to cover.

  Cadzilla2

  I get remote node not currently reachable. I assume the path from CX to Boston
is down. If the node was unknown I would expect a different response.

  Cadzailla2

The node is knowd it's just that it's knowd wrong.

Send to 37994::DERRY and all will be fine.

If'n that's too much hust read note .112 and FORWARD/AUTHOR and it'll get
there good, too.

TTom

    fwiw machines at WMO were moved because the plant is closing, lots
    of nodes changed there. also the whole strata:: cluster.
    
    The Crazy Met
    

>MIMS::ROLLINS_R		Atlanta +5.5
>MIMS::ROLLINS_R		Philly +1

 Could you check to see if I picked Philly and ATLANTA ?  I thought I had
 asked for Philly and Miami (course I could have made a typo...)

 Thanks ?

      Thats the last time I bet on the chargeLESS!

    And everyone laughed when I took the Pats...
    
    
    REK
    
Week 6

WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M	KC -14           LOSER

HBAHBA::HAAS		Phoenix -10      LOSER

USCTR1::KING 		NE +10           WINNER

SCOMAN::GARRY		Indy +10         LOSER

USDEV::TBLANCHARD	Vikes -9.5       WINNER

OURGNG::RIGGEN		Chicago +7       WINNER

CSTEAM::FARLEY		Buffalo -4.5     
GENRAL::WADE		Buffalo -4.5
SHARE::DERRY		Buffalo -4.5

MSE1::FRANCUS		Houston +4.5

AKOCOA::BREEN		Pitts. -3.5      WINNER  

SNAX::ERICKSON		Denver +3        TIE
PFSVAX::JACOB		Denver +3        TIE

MPGS::MCCARTHY		Jets +3          LOSER
OURGNG::RIGGEN		Jets +3          LOSER

MIMS::ROLLINS_R		Miami -2.5       WINNER
SPECXN::BROWN		Miami -2.5       WINNER

    
    Oh, thanks KAren.  Go ahead and post that I'm picking against my
    beloved Cards.
    
    
    boC

funny I took it to mean that brews or BOSS was betting against the Cards,
not BoC...

are you now telling us that BoC is just an innoccent college prank???

mike

    
    mikey---sshhhhh!  don't tell TC*!

    
    Since the $#%^ing Lams losted lasted nighted, and that knocls me out,
    can I change my Sunday pick to the Cards?
    
    trying to save my distinguished rep, and all...
    
    brews

Can't get through via mail.  I'll take Cleveland as well.

    
>>PFSVAX::JACOB		KC -3.5
    
    final KC 17  SD 14.
    
    Sheesh, 5 good weeks and then a tie lasted week and this week's loss
    and I'm sitting on the fence of elimination now.
    
    JaKe
    

      Thats 'cause of the AFC west and the competition they are producing
    thised year..

    Ok, I'm picking fer my ability to pick again nexted week.  Apparently
    my prognostication skills went to sh_t after week 5, and a loss this
    week means getting knocked out of this thang after being on the top
    just two short weeks ago.  Two consecutive hose jobe...er losses and
    I'm in deep doo-doo now.
    
    My pick:
    
    The STEELERS over the Clevescum Brown(spot)s(tm) at the mistake by the
    Lake this Sunday.
    
    JaKe
    

      Most likely Jakster....  Vinny will be a scramblin...

    
    
       Don't do it jake. Bet with your head not your heart. Now if they was
    playing Denver it would be a different story.
    
    
    Chappy

    
    >>   Don't do it jake. Bet with your head not your heart. Now if they was
    >>playing Denver it would be a different story.
    
    Nah, If I'm going out due to this tailspin, it's gonna carry wif it the
    distaperntment of the STEELERS losing, too.
    
    JaKe
    

 Do it Jake. The defense is there! I did the same think with the Giants
 a few years ago and fell out after the sixth week when they won by 6 and
 the spread was 6 1/2....

 boo hoo........

    Hey, I'll complet the fall from 5-0 to 5-3 and in the sh_t pile
    and do it with my hometown team.  I figger the same as you Mike, 
    they're 1-10 in the Pig Pound over the lasted 11 years, and they're
    dew.
    
    JaKe
    

    First to an also ran in 3 short weeks.....
    
    (8^(
    
    JaKe
    

    
    yabbut it's no reason to quit the company
    
    brews

    
    Yabbut interesting observation:
    
    36 people tried to become KoH.
    
    30 people (so far) have fallen
    
    6 people still in da hunt after 8 games (but Lufay's only played 5)
    
    
    I remain,
    dastistically (tm) analytical!
    Kev
    

    
    	Nothin' like a public prodding!  It's a comin'....

    And then there were 4.
    
    My money's on Claybone
    
    JaKe
    

    
    Yabbut this is from a guy who'se always complaining he ain't got a
    pot to pee in????  No wonder his $$$ is on Claybone....
    
    I remain,
    steel in contenshun!
    Kev
    

    
    	I'm goin' huntin' Friday morning.  I'll get my pick in for
    	this week before I leave.  Next week is questionable.  It
    	depends on how heavy that 6X6 bull elk is and how long it
    	takes me to drag him back to camp.  
    
    	Whaddya got against me Jake?  :*)
    
    Claybone
    
    

    Re:158 Claybone, I didn't know you were taking your wife!!!!!  :-}
    
    
    REK

    
    	Your mama....
    
    Claybone

my moneys on the yabbut king.

The Crazy Met

    re-1
    
      Yabbut dabut do..
    
      Musta been related to Fred Flintstone (-)
    
      Tim

    
    Gotta jump in here before the kick offs!
    
    I'm taking Pittsburgh.  Hope this isn't my last one....
    
    I remain,
    one step ahead of elimination
    Kev
    

    Kev, you should have missed this week.
    
    The Crazy Met
    

    
    	Yabbut it seems that in my rush to get it in under the wire,
    somebody raised the wire to neck high and I got my haid cut off.
    
    ;^(
    
    I remain,
    outa da quest for KoH
    Kev
    

Congrats to the 1993 King of the Hill!  Clay, you can keep playin' if you
want to see how long you can last...

8-2					

GENRAL::WADE                            

*-3 Maybe nexted year...

MKFSB::LONG, CNTROL::CHILDS, SALEM::DODA, CSC32::M_MACGREGOR, MPGS::MCCARTHY 
SALEM::ALIZIO, MSBCS::BRYDIE, MPO::MCFALL, FRETZ::HEISER, SNAX::ERICKSON
DECWET::METZGER, MKOTS4::STORY, LJSRV2::BREEDEN, OPTION::LAZARUS, HBAHBA::HAAS
SCOMAN::GARRY, WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M, ROYALT::ASHE, QUASER::JACKSONTA, BIGQ::WEST
CTHQ::MCCULLOUGH, OURGNG::RIGGEN, ACESMK::FRANCUS, ONOFRE::MAY_BR, CAM::WAY
USCTR1::KING, SHARE::DERRY, BSS::G_MCINTOSH, PFSVAX::JACOB, MIMS::ROLLINS_R
CAPNET::LEFEBVRE, AKOCOA::BREEN, CSTEAM::FARLEY, SPECXN::BROWN
USDEV::TBLANCHARD

	Yabbut, do I win anything for being at the top of the "also-ran" list?


	billl

Clay told me about 5 weeks ago he was going to win.....


Congrats Claybone!


'Saw

    
    	Yabbut congrats and no flies on you Claybone!
    
    Karen,
    Any chance you "stacking the list in reverse order of elimination?
    That could soitenly put billl where he belongs  ;^)
    
    I remain,
    a main with staying power but no enuf to go da distance
    Kev
    

> how long you can last...


Clay, can't last worth a damn - so I hear :-)

The Crazy Met

      And Clay isn't even here.  He's chasing Bambi...

    
    	Bow to the King knaves! :*)
    
    	I was runnerup two years in a row before this year.  I was starting
    	to wonder if I had Denver Broncos Disease (DBD (tm)).
    
    	The Raiders didn't cover last week?  I haven't seen a paper since
    	last Thursday.
    
    	TCC, jealousy looks ugly on you dude.  :*)
    
    Claybone

    
    	Oh, and a REAL BIG THANK YOU to Ms. Derry for running this here
    	contest!
    
    Claybone

You know, in year's past there was a prize, right?  

I never knew what it was, but there was some kind of prize, other than
the resultant adulation and grovelling by those of us not worthy to 
stand on the top of the hill, drinking in the sunlight that shines upon
the Victor....


'Saw

    
    	Where's my prize!!!
    
    Claybone

    >> other than the resultant adulation and grovelling by those of us 
    >> not worthy to stand on the top of the hill, drinking in the sunlight 
    >> that shines upon the Victor....
    
       Yeah sure, Frank. When was the last time that you had a thorough
       checkup?

>    
>       Yeah sure, Frank. When was the last time that you had a thorough
>       checkup?


I try NOT to have thorough checkups because I don't like it when the
doctor puts on that rubber glove and palpates my prostate.

(It's bad enough my BOSS does that on a weekly basis!)


Mentally, we ALL know that I'm a bit unbalanced.  That's a given in here....


WHHHOOOOOOO_WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEe!

'Saw