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Title:Sports 93-96 Archive. No new notes allowed
Notice:Chainsaw's last standSPORTS_97
Moderator:HBAHBA::HAAS
Created:Mon Jan 11 1993
Last Modified:Tue Apr 15 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:302
Total number of notes:117855

83.0. "Portland Trailblazers" by NWD002::JOYNER_GL (Did I do that?) Mon Jan 25 1993 16:29

    This topic will be for the discussion of the Western Conference
    Champion Portland Trailblazers.
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83.127-11 and only 1 1/2 behind Phoenix!NWD002::JOYNER_GLDid I do that?Mon Jan 25 1993 16:339
    The Blazers are a roll right now, winning their last 5 games.  I think
    it's about time to have a topic in here for them.
    
    How 'bout that Cliff Robinson?  I think he should make the All-Star
    team this year.  Any comments?  What do you all think of Rod
    Strickland?  I think he is shutting up all of his early season
    naysayers with his great contributions to the team.
    
    Glen.
83.2Did the Spurs beat the Bulls yesterday?FRETZ::HEISERBillary takes U.S. hostageMon Jan 25 1993 17:391
    
83.3CSOA1::BACHThey who know nothing, doubt nothing...Mon Jan 25 1993 17:471
    Yup.  By three or four.  :-(
83.4FDCV07::KINGThe Jessinator, Not just a child!!!!!Mon Jan 25 1993 18:146
    Yup... beat them like a drum!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
    
    REK
    
    4 points.... 2 loses in a row... Jordan "hit" 16 of 35 or something
    like that
83.5CSOA1::BACHThey who know nothing, doubt nothing...Mon Jan 25 1993 18:215
    [INSERT ARNOLD SCHWARTZNEGGER VOICE]
    
    'Dell be BACK...
    
    CHIP_gsh_BACH
83.6PATE::MACNEALruck `n' rollMon Jan 25 1993 18:261
    Since when did the Bulls or the Spurs start playing in Portland?
83.8more to come!FRETZ::HEISERBillary takes U.S. hostageWed Jan 27 1993 17:2822
83.9from UPI news:FRETZ::HEISERBillary takes U.S. hostageWed Jan 27 1993 17:3113
    Portland's victory was overshadowed by reports that several Trail Blazers 
    were implicated in a sex scandal involving three teenage girls in an 
    incident that allegedly occurred Saturday night in Salt Lake City.
    
    The girls mentioned nobody by their last name. However, the names Clyde, 
    Terry, Cliff, Jerome and Tracy were listed in the police report.  Clyde 
    Drexler, Terry Porter, Cliff Robinson, Jerome Kersey and Tracy Murray all 
    denied any involvement in the incident.  After the game, Drexler said the 
    charges were ``totally absurd.'' He had hinted earlier that a lawsuit 
    might be forthcoming.
    
    The under-age girls were runaways and apparently had been picked up for 
    shoplifting shortly before telling police their stories.
83.10politically correct versionFRETZ::HEISERBillary takes U.S. hostageWed Jan 27 1993 18:1216
    Well after the debut of the CryBlazer's Babysitting Service, I'll have
    to say that I'll take Ole Chainsaw's Babysitting Service anyday.
    
    Rod and Cliff Robinson have been marked so far.  The event took place in 
    Jerome Kersey's room at the Marriott.  Other reports have mentioned 
    Drexler, Porter, and Murray as participants. 
    
    The age of consent in Utah is 16.  There were 2 16's and 1 15 involved.
    One of the girls' father said he won't press charges because she said it 
    was a consensual event.  However, the police reports say the charge is
    rape and the father has no say over whether charges will be filed.  The
    Blazers involved also face an alleged contributing to minors charge (stop
    laughing it's for alcohol).
    
    more to come,
    Mike
83.11but rarely thoughCSTEAM::FARLEYMegabucks Winner WannabeeWed Jan 27 1993 18:4410
    
    Asuming "something" happened,
    
    Obviously people have learned alot from a one Ervin "Magic" Johnson's
    message and former lifestyle, no?
    
    I remain,
    occasionally part-serious!
    Kev
    
83.12can you say "groupie"?FRETZ::HEISERBillary takes U.S. hostageWed Jan 27 1993 18:495
    Over in CELTICS, our resident Salt Lake contributor said there is a
    mall near that hotel where you very often see *VERY* tall players
    accompanied by one to several young women.
    
    Mike
83.13from the news reportsFRETZ::HEISERFREE Dallas Cowboy hats!Thu Jan 28 1993 17:525
    The police have cleared the Blazers of any possible charges.  It seems
    the girls involved keep changing their stories so much that they had no
    choice.
    
    Mike
83.14Sports Noter Implicated, Film @ 11CAMONE::WAYCheez-Whiz, Choice of ChampionsThu Jan 28 1993 18:3925
>    The police have cleared the Blazers of any possible charges.  It seems
>    the girls involved keep changing their stories so much that they had no
>    choice.
    

Girls:
	"Well, there was this BIG, TALL black man, well, no, maybe
	he was a white man.  But anyway, he was big and tall, well,
	maybe just big, and he mighta been tall, well more like a
	little bit short, but he was big.   Well, he wasn't a little
	bit short, he was a lot short, and he was big.  Well, maybe
	he wasn't so much big as a bit scrawny.   Yeah, that's
	it, he was a little short white guy, officer...

	But his name was Cliff, yeah, that's it, Cliff, or was
	it Clyde, or something that began with a "k" sound,
	oh wait, it was Kevin, yeah, I'm sure of it now.


Officer:

	So it was a short, scrawny white guy named Kevin, eh?

Girls:
	Yes officer, that's right.......
83.15AXIS::ROBICHAUDCarolina BlewFri Jan 29 1993 12:526
    	The Portland police had better watch their backs.  Just recently
    trial attorney Alan Dershwitz was threatened with a sexual harassment
    suit for having the temerity to cover in one of his classes, the
    trial of two men wrongfully accused of rape.
    
    				/Don
83.16Clyde wants to keep his good reputationNWD002::JOYNER_GLDid I do that?Fri Jan 29 1993 14:377
    Yesterday in an interview after the team's practice, Clyde said he
    wants the Salt Lake police to release the names of those members of the
    team that were definately NOT involved.  He said the team will support
    any members of the team that were involved, but the innocent members of
    the team should have their names cleared.
    
    Glen.
83.17MSBCS::BRYDIEThe Peter Principle in actionFri Jan 29 1993 14:443
    >> -< Clyde wants to keep his good reputation >-
    
        and peace at home.
83.18Yer right Tommy, that "peace" tooCTHQ::LEARYUS:WorldCop,WillPuffChestForMoneyFri Jan 29 1993 16:091
    
83.19MSBCS::BRYDIEThe Peter Principle in actionFri Jan 29 1993 16:123
    
     I was thinking along them lines too, Mike. But didn't dare type
    it.
83.20haw hawFRETZ::HEISERno D in PhoenixWed Apr 13 1994 18:464
    I'm so embarassed.  Last night the Mavericks did something that Phoenix
    hasn't been able to do all season:
    
    WIN IN PORTLAND! ;-)
83.21METSNY::francusMets in '94Wed Apr 13 1994 18:5010
Mavs actually won their 9th game of the season?? they gotta stop
doing this. Each year they tease everyone by threatening to finish with
the worst record ever and then they go and win a game or two at the
end of the season.

Mavericks fired their VP of Operations yesterday, Buckner was rumored to
be next to go - next day or so.

The Crazy Met

83.22FRETZ::HEISERno D in PhoenixWed Apr 13 1994 19:593
    Craze, that was their 10th win.  I'd like to see Quinn back on NBC. 
    Rumor mill around here is that Dick Motta may takeover the Mavs
    (again!).
83.23crybaby requiemNWD002::JOLMAMACum Grano SalisMon May 02 1994 18:497
    had great fun watchin houston kill the blazers....see ja cryblazers.
    
    its an end of an era, the team got old in a hurry.  will take
    a number of rebuilding years in the toughest conference so look for
    lots of big numbers in the loss columns in the future.
    
    
83.24Wanted: New GM and Head CoachNWD002::JOYNER_GLDid I do that?Fri May 20 1994 21:467
    Well, in case some of you haven't heard yet, the Blazers are definately
    doing some reshuffling.  Geoff Petri started things off by resigning on
    Wednesday.  Yesterday team owner Paul Allen fired Rick Adelman.  This
    should get real interesting before it's all over.
    
    Glen.
    
83.25Man, the Clippers look REALLY BAD!!NWD002::JOYNER_GLDid I do that?Mon Nov 07 1994 20:459
    Hello all,
         Well, the Blazers started off the season with a couple of wins
    over the Clippers in Japan.  The Blazers won the first game by 21 and
    the second by 17.  Clyde had 26 in the first game and 41 in the second!
    He is looking really good, maybe he'll finally be back to his old self
    this year.  He says he feels better than he has in a couple of years
    and is ready to have a great season.  I'll keep you posted...
    
    Glen.
83.26FRETZ::HEISERGrace changes everythingMon Nov 07 1994 20:594
    Thanks for the info Glen!  
    
    Let all those who laughed at Clyde when I tried to trade him this
    summer hang their heads in shame!
83.27Are the Blazers done yet???NWD002::JOYNER_GLDid I do that?Tue Feb 21 1995 15:2715
    With the trading deadline just 2 days away, the trading rumors in
    Portland are really flying.  They all seem to revolve around newly
    aquired Otis Thorpe and forward Harvey Grant.  Most of the rumors
    envolve either Hersey Hawkins, Isaiha(sp) Ryder, or Kendall Gill.  The
    most interesting one, however, was reported on the local NBC affiliate
    last night.  The local sportscaster said that it is being reported that
    their is a four-way deal in the works that will send Thorpe and Grant
    from the Blazers to the Timberwolves, the Timberwolves would then send
    Laetner and a #1 pick to the Bulls, the Bulls would send Pippen to the
    (gulp) Suns, and the Suns would send Thunder Dan to the Blazers.
    
    What do you all think of that?  I think Phoenix would the #1 contender
    again with Pippen.
    
    Glen.
83.28whopperHBAHBA::HAASPlan 9 from Outer SpaceTue Feb 21 1995 15:3712
Geln,

I've heard this one, too.

Laettner supposedly would be joined by Doug West adn Thunder Dan would
move with his teammate Wesley Person. Someone else would have to join
Pippen.

Also, locally anyway, they're dismissing any and all trades involving
Hornets. Admittedly, Hersey is the onliest Hornet being mentioned.

TTom
83.29WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_MJAN,279,270,267,264.230 OR BUSTTue Feb 21 1995 15:578
    
    
        Timberpuppies would be stupid doing that trade. They need all the
    #1's they can get!!
    
    
    
    Chap
83.30no way!USCTR1::GARBARINOTue Feb 21 1995 16:031
Laettner and a #1 for Pippen ?
83.31AKOCOA::BREENThat is enough for me and for theeTue Feb 21 1995 16:578
    >Laettner and a #1 for Pippen ?
    
    Too heavy or too short a price?  My guess is that's too much to pay.
    I still say Chicago should have offered Pippen to Thorpe plus a
    floating draft swap or another player.
    
    I just wish Celtics would try to get a real power forward if Portland
    has an extra.
83.32Two more days to tradeILBBAK::SILVESTRII have no answersTue Feb 21 1995 17:2727
>>    >Laettner and a #1 for Pippen ?

	Thats a fair deal in my book .. Minnesota would then have a starting
	lineup of Pippen, Gugliotta, Rooks, Ryder and (point guard) with
	Doug West coming off the bench .. not exactly championship material,
	but not bottom of the barrel either ..

	Chicago's lineup would be Armstrong, Harper, Kukoc, Laettner and
	(center by committee) .. plus the additional draft pick ..
    
>>    I just wish Celtics would try to get a real power forward if Portland
>>    has an extra.

	Portland and the Celtics do not match up well for trades .. both
	are trying to get younger and rebuild .. Portland has two solid
	power forwards (Thorpe and Williams) .. but those players are more
	valuable to a contender in need of rebounding than they are to
	a rebuilding team - they will both be well past their prime by the
	time the C's are in contention ..

	Thorpe (for someone like Hawkins) or Williams (for a lesser player
	or picks) to Charlotte would really help the Hornets come playoff
	time .. an experienced veteran to help on the boards and on
	defense ..

	Vinny

83.33USCTR1::GARBARINOTue Feb 21 1995 19:3512
>    >Laettner and a #1 for Pippen ?
    
>    Too heavy or too short a price?


I don't think it's enough.  Laettner hasn't lived up to expectations.
And how valuable is that pick, given it isn't guaranteed to be the top
pick in the draft, and this draft is supposed to be weak compared to
most.

Pippen is one of the best players in the NBA.  So far (this rumor, and
Marjele-Person) I haven't heard equal value being exchanged.
83.34Blazer Mania making a return?!NWD002::JOYNER_GLDid I do that?Tue Feb 28 1995 16:1219
    Well, the new look Blazers are playing very well right now.  They won
    their 4th straight last night 96-83 over the lowly Clippers.  Two of
    the other three wins in the streak were solid victories against Seattle
    and Utah.  Thorpe has made a big difference to this team.  He has made
    the Blazers' front even stronger defensively and has given the team a
    good low post scorer, something they desperately needed.  The return of
    Terry Porter has also been a big lift for the team.  He is playing well
    coming of the bench for now.  The Blazers are now 5-1 since the
    addition/return of Thorpe/Porter.  Look for this team to make a run
    here in the second half of the season and maybe surprise a few people
    come playoff time.
    
    On a side note, Rod Strickland was named the NBA's player of the week
    yesterday.  He averaged 29+ points, 11 assists, and 7 rebs. last week.
    He become the first Blazer to win the award since Clyde won it about
    this time 4 years ago.  Way to go Rod!  The teams new nickname is now
    "Rod's Squad"
    
    Glen.