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    Yes, it is a sad day.... Always a first class competitor and be the
    first one to congratulate you whether she won or lose... I remember
    keeping score for her on the pro-tour in Windham NH a couple of years
    in the late 70's... She was fun to keep score for... Always thanking
    the people keeping score even if I did make a small mistake...
    Brought me a cup of coffee waiting for the next round to start too...

    REK

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                   Candlepin bowling league forming  
 
         A candlepin bowling league is now forming at Crowell Bowl on 
   Rt. 117 in Stow. The league meets every Tuesday from 5:15-7:15 p.m.  
   Bowling will begin Sept. 7 (average night). For more information, send 
   VAXmail to Dick Page (CHIPS::PAGE).

    
                  >> Candlepin bowling league forming << 
 
         A candlepin bowling league is now forming at Crowell Bowl on 
   Rt. 117 in Stow. The league meets every Tuesday from 5:15-7:15 p.m.  
   Bowling will begin Sept. 7 (average night). For more information, send 
   VAXmail to Dick Page (CHIPS::PAGE).

When ya start a real bowling league, let us know.

JD

    What standout pitcher was also a star candlepin bowler with appearances
    on channel 5's championship show?
    
    One wag advised B*, "Young man, with your ability you can make some
    real good money bowling"
    
    The next week he inked a pact with ---- for 175k - big money in 70s
    
    One hint, the answer is not Skip Lockwood
    
    
    
    
    Bill Travers who was 20 game (thereabouts) winner for Brewers in early
    70s and like Skip hailed from Norwood Ma., a bowling and demo derby
    town.

    Re:1 JD, I'd ask you to get a life but some things can't happen...

    REK

    PS Good riddance.....

    
    re -1
    
    Where is Don Goguen when you need him.  We haven't had a good candlepin
    vs. 10 pin LDUC in here in YEARS.  8^(
    
    brews

    free::goguen
    
    HtH
    
    The Crazy Met
    

Candlepin Bowling is for slobs who can't clean up their deadwood.....8^)

    
    Tenpin bowling is for people with no eye-hand coordination and need
    balls over twice the size of the pins to hit them with...8^)
    
    Marc
    

Candlepin is for pointy eared nerds that can't life a mainly sized bowling ball, need
an extra try to knock da pins down, and results in severe social problems ;-)

JD

    
    >Candlepin is for pointy eared nerds that can't life a mainly sized
    >bosling ball and an extra try to knock da pins down, and results in
    >severe social problems ;-)
    
    I'm in two tenpin leagues and use a 15.78 pound ball.  I've bowled a
    higher score with "the other" hand in tenpin than my high in candlepin. 
    Tenpin is for people who drink 2 pitchers by the hanging frame, smoke
    enough so you can't see the lights, and drive a Gremlin.
    
    The only reason I bowl it is because there is no REAL bowling in
    Colorado.
    
    Marc

    Pure luck.

    RE: .3
    
    Don't get in here much at all any more, but it's good to see that the
    Great Bowling Debate is still remembered....  Thanks, Bruce...  :-)
    
    -- dg

    
    
    	Yabbut all this college bowl talk made me remember something I
    heard over the weekend and I'm sure that this'll lacquer up yer woodies
    when ya find this out!
    
    	Sometime over the weekend, out west someplace, some dude made
    bowling history by bowling three consecutive 300 games, in a sanctioned
    event.
    
    	I find it interesting that nobody ever before had a 900 series
    total.  Guy musta been "in the zone" eh?
    
    I remain,
    wondering if he does any "real" sports?
    Kev
    

    
    
    	I bowled against a guy last night that rolled a 300. It was wild!
    It was in the first game, by the end of the night he was so stinkin
    drunk he barely finished the 3rd game. It's definately an experience. 
    
    John

>    	I bowled against a guy last night that rolled a 300. It was wild!
>    It was in the first game, by the end of the night he was so stinkin
>    drunk he barely finished the 3rd game. It's definately an experience. 
    
You know, I finally figured it out.

Instead of golfing, I should be BOWLING.  That way my scores would be
closer to perfect......


'Saw

 >   I bowled against a guy last night that rolled a 300.
    
    Did you win?

    
    Just out of curiosity, was that in ten-pin or candlepin?  Has anyone
    ever bowled a 300 in candlepin?
    
    Marc
    

>    Just out of curiosity, was that in ten-pin or candlepin?  Has anyone
>    ever bowled a 300 in candlepin?
    
I'm not John, and I don't even play him on TV, but I sit next to him.....

It was 10-pin.

Candlepin, by its very nature, is imperfect and thus no one has
ever bowled a perfect game....[just kidding of course]


'Saw    

    But Olszta (did I spell that right?) is going for his 18th
    (thereabouts) straight victory on sat. ch. 5 candlepins and chasing a
    Stacia Zernicki record.
    
    He is about the best candlepin bowler I've ever seen and given that New
    England is the world in c'pins he is our New England World's best.
    
    I got up to 105 in '80, my last candlepin league year.

    If it wasn't a 300 game in candlepin, then why did he post it in the
    Candlepin topic?

>    If it wasn't a 300 game in candlepin, then why did he post it in the
>    Candlepin topic?

Probably because it's the only bowling note we have, I think.....


'saw

    Yeah, it was the only bowling topic...

    The highest single string in candlepin is 240 by a person from
    Manchester, NH. 
    
    REK

    Any insomniacs watch the women's bowling last night?  They use that
    format where low seed plays * - 1, -2 etc.  Number 5 was cruisin and
    then #3 only needed a seven on top of her strike (which she got) to win
    and threw a six.
    
    Finally vs #1 she's cruising again and this very attractive (sorry)
    woman came from way back with 5 strikes to close and #5 needed a double
    and couldn't do it.
    
    the reason I mention this is that this is how I think bc is gonna beat
    harvard tonight, sneak up on em at the end.

    Yea, I watched the bowling.  The funny part was that the TV folks
    thought that the match had ended in a tie, only to find out they'd
    missed a pin earlier in the contest.  (4th frame I think.)
    
    One thing I like about bowling is when the losing bowler takes his/her
    balls and leaves after logging the 'L'.  Kinda poetic, having to clean
    up after yourself after losing ....
    
    
    - ACC Chris

    I missed exactly how that happened what with commercials and having my
    surfboard at the ready.  The woman commentator must have had some kind
    of mental formula in her head she'd been using because she had it right
    (on the 6 losing) but let herself be talked out of it.
    
    I never cease to be amazed at how in a bowling league with 5 per side
    some guys can immeadiately note that "Charlie needs a double with an 8
    to tie".
    
    And as it turned out the BC victory did go the way of the bowling with
    Harvard not building a big enough lead and bc getting into the overtime
    and then slipping in the goal.

    
    >I never cease to be amazed at how in a bowling league with 5 per side
    >some guys can immeadiately note that "Charlie needs a double with an 8
    >to tie"
    
    It really isn't that difficult.  You learned the mechanics on how to do
    this in elementary school (addition)  The only difficult part to
    remember is the rules of scoring in bowling (2 balls on a strike, 1 on
    a spare which is one reason why Candlepin is better...because you
    ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS have 3 balls count per frame for your score). 
    So a little practice and you will find that you can do it also.
    
    Marc
    

    
    >   -< I tried bowling once,quickly mastered it and went on >-
    
    You are supposed to take the bumpers out first 8^)
    
    Marc
    

                       <<< Note 74.31 by CSC32::M_MACGREGOR >>>
    
    
        >   -< I tried bowling once,quickly mastered it and went on >-
    
        You are supposed to take the bumpers out first 8^)
    
        Marc
     -------------------------------------
    
    I stole that one from Andleman, one of the few things he's ever said
    that made me laugh.  His line was golf though.
    
    I did hit a 189 my first time bowling but when I tried again 20 years
    later it wasn't easy.
    
    re. addition.  I don't think the "pros" use simply grade school style
    addition.
    I think rather that they have some tricks such as cancelling strikes or
    whatever.

    In 10 pin (the main's way), you can't score worth squat unless you
    can throw those curves.

    
    
    re: -.1
    
    Yabbut snot true Hize!  If'n ya throw (drop) a straight ball from 
    the 2nd from the edge board and aim to split the 1-2 combination you'll 
    get some pretty good pin action and high scores.  It ain't a curve
    ball, it's a straight ball coming in from a_angle!
    
    I remain,
    owner of a few trophies in 10 pin
    Kev
    

    Kev, I'll have to give that a shot next time I bowl.  It seemed like I
    hit the wall at 180 by just aiming for the head pin.  I've only broken
    200 by using the curve.  The problem with that is I don't bowl often
    enough to be consistent with it.

    
    
      >>It seemed like I hit the wall at 180 by just aiming for the head pin. 
    
    
      Try throwing the ball with ONE hand.
    
    

    
    
    Rollward Stevie_boy!!!!!!
    
    great pick up!!!!!!
    
    

    Might as well put my goodbye in this note -- fitting, I think...  :)
    
    Haven't frequented this conference much of late, but I'll never forget
    the Great Bowling Debate!!  I'm outa here -- best wishes to those that
    remain.
    
    -- dg

    
    	Yabbut right now above MRO, up in heaven the angels are bowling!
    
    and Billy Martin's doing a major wee wee!
    
    I remain,
    yer hippy-dippy weatherman!
    Kev
    

    
    
    	Yabbut Sparky blasted our computer room and it took almost an hour
    for me to get this VS3100 rebooted!
    
    after ~15 minutes, it's dry outside
    
    I remain,
    not too happy with the truck's a/c either
    Kev
    

    Boy, is this a stupid game!
    
    If it wasn't for the fact that you can drink beer at the same time, I
    think I'd start a movement to ban this silly activity.
    
    
    
    billl

              <<< Note 74.43 by MKFSA::LONG "Strive for five!" >>>
                  -< If it ain't 'duckpin' it ain't bowling! >-

   > Boy, is this a stupid game!
    
    Translation: I've tried it and I sip at it.

    Your welcome.

    Hey...watch it!!!  You're brining me out of Read Only.
    
    I have had this note running in Sprots for 8 years now.  The argument
    continues.....and everyone knows I love the game.  Of course, age and
    tight schedules have dropped my average to a depressing 112, but
    candlepin blwoing still beats sitting around the t.v. at night.
    
    And just for laughs, there is a new cable t.v. bowling show, debuting
    in a couple of weeks.  It will be covered by 5 cable companies in
    central Mass (Clinton cable is driving this).  It is a bowling show
    where the contestants can't have over a 115 average.  I missed being on
    the inaugural show by 12 pins lasted Friday night.  My face will shine
    on your t.v. sometime soon.  And candlepin bowling will live again.
    
    RTG

    
    
    
    
         Where are these roll-offs? I'll bring my 105 average on down.
    
    
    
    
    Chappy

    I don't know all the details except that the shows are taped at Harvard
    Lanes (not Mass Bowling Assoc sanctioned)
    
    There are 8 local establishments participating.  Each of them will have
    a final round.  Some of the 8 are; Crowell Bowl Stow, Harvard Lanes,
    Putnam street Fitchburg, The Hub Lunenburg, The Palace Fitchburg,
    Gardner....and a couple of others.
    
    The top 5 bowlers in the finals go on t.v..  The format is first week 5
    vs 4, second week the winner goes against 3, and so on.  Top prize is
    $250, and down from there.  The biggest obstacle will be the viewing
    audience on the cale networks.  I believe the trial period is 4
    tapings, so you still have a chance.
    
    The first final was held last Friday......The qualifying scores were (5
    strings)  643, 597, 596, 591, 563.  Amazing that 563 was 5th.  That is
    only a 112 average, so you can see there is a chance for most people to
    get on.  Of course, I had a disappointing 551 (92 in the middle killed
    me).
    
    Nexted time watch out!
    
    RTG

    >>candlepin blwoing
    
    That's kinda the way I feel.
    
    
    
    billl
    
    p.s.  Daryll, do a candlepin!

    Daryll,
    
    I hope you are not giving up the game!!!  Also, what's with the -round
    thing?  
    
    RTG
    
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Contact: Daryll Doda
         dtn: 285-3852
         Salem::doda

Set of Candlepin bowling balls for sale w/ bag.

-approx. 8 years old
-round.

$20.00

Can be picked up in Salem, MKO or anywhere in between.
    

    >                              -< balls for sale >-

    yabbut, these are Daryll Doda balls!

    Next thing you'll be telling us John Kruk has one for sale too!

    You can say whatever you want on what constitues REAL bowling, but 
    candlepin bowling is fun for everyone.  There is noone who can't do it.  
    I worked part-time at a candlepin house, and saw all kinds of people 
    coming in, from 3 years to 93........physically challenged, as well as 
    mentally challenged.....and you don't need to have the strength to lift 
    that heavy ball.  We even provided ramps for the blind, handicapped,
    elderly, etc.
    
    This argument has gone on in this conference for 8 years, and all I can
    say is I have done both, and if this wasn't candlepin country, I would 
    be a 10-pin bowler.  But since, we have the game here, I will take
    candlepin over 10-pin.  Plus, I am better at candlepin anyway!
    
    So, Daryll........why are you selling them balls anyway?????
    
    RTG

I'm selling the balls because they're too light.

In the league I used to bowl in, I used a teammate's set. I 
switched leagues this year and had to pull an old set out that 
the wife used to use. They're 2.4's I think. I'm used to a much 
heavier ball and these light ones were taking 15 pins off my 
average, although I think part of the avg drop is from switching 
from one of the fastest houses I've ever bowled in, Park Place in 
Windham NH to an alley in Merrimack NH. 

I got a set of pro-rubber 2.7's for my birthday. Used them last night 
for the 1st time and threw a 356 which is where I usually finish.

daryll

       <<< Note 74.54 by SALEM::DODA "Super Bowl Bound Minn. Vikings" >>>
    
    Hope your ankle is okay from that huge leap onto the Vike's bandwagon.
    Say hello to Dr 00:00 while you're there.
    
    
    
    billl

Tell you what Billll,

Ask Spud what I had him bring up with him when he came from Minny 
to run the marathon back in '88.

I've been a Vikings fan since '77.

Oh and do me.

daryll

    Daryll,
    
    I use 2.6's....The 2.7's get to you if you are bowling in a lot of 5
    stringers.  They're fine for 3 strings, but I find that for 5 or 10 
    strings the lighter ball keep it's course.  I am usually dropping a 2.7 
    by the fifth string which never kits the pocket.
    
    2.4's are girly balls!!!
    
    RTG

I know, I told you that my wife used to use the 2.4's.

My wife bought me the 2.7's because I told her to get me the 
heaviest available. I find I have more control with the heavier 
balls. I tend to overthrow the lighter balls and if I try to 
adjust my delivery, I lose even more control.

I know they're girly balls for sure now since Billlll just sent 
me mail asking me if he could try em before he decides to buy em.

I rarely bowl more than 3. I've never bowled in a speed league 
and don't have the time for tourneys anymore.

daryll

    I'll vouch for Daryll being a Vikes fan for quite some time.  When I
    lived out there back in the mid 80's, we were supposed to get together
    for a game - I believe the one where the Vikes let the Giants off the
    hook on the 4th and 18 play.  
    
    Say Daryll, just tape Cris over Anthony.  :*)
    
    
    Spud

    I got email from our _old_ friend (and I use that term loosely),
    Dr Midnight.  
    
    It seems he's involved in a very worthwhile (IMHO) fundraising  
    venture for the Big Brothers Association of Boston.  It's a 
    Bowl-a-thon this Sunday 4/23/95 at Lanes-n-Games in Cambridge.
    
    He's looking for any support any of us left here can give him.
    Either a flat amount or a per pin pledge.
    
    If you are interested send me email and I'll give you the details.
    
    
    billl

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                                           vvvvvvv
    Wilbur Wood was from Belmont, Lockwood,Travers and (non-pitcher) Hebner
    were from Norwood.  That's Belmont High not Belmont Hill a la Toby
    Kimball.
    
              AKA, Billy Travers......Excellent CANDLEPIN BOWLER!!!!!!
    
    RTG
    

    I didn't know Billy but knew his father pretty well, I was probably in
    college by the time Billy was in little league.  I did hear a story
    about one of the wags saying to Billy at the alleys "Kid, you could
    could make some serious money at this game".
    
    Bill had just signed a $350,000 contract with the Brewers (serious
    money at the time).  
    
    As good a bowler as he was the competition in that racket is terrific 
    and the "spare change" is probably more motivation for ????? 
    (who that's guy that dominated ch. 5) and a few others.

    The guys dominating Channel 5 would have to be Tom Olszta and Paul
    Berger (ex-DECcie).  They are the only ones I know making SERIOUS?
    money.
    
    There was a trivia question re; Billy Travers years ago.  He was
    the only person in the history of the show who had not lost a match. 
    This was due to the baseball strike in '81.  Travers qualified for
    Channel 5....went on.....won.....then the strike was settled, and he
    headed back to Milwaukee undefeated.  Of course this changed years
    later, when after his retirement from BBall, he again qualified for the
    show, beat a good friend of mine, and then lost the next week.
    
    A little candlepin trivia for all you buffs.
    
    RTG

    Hey guys.  Just checkin in to say Hi!  I've lost all interest in the
    great candlepin debate since CH5 in Boston pulled it Saturday show,
    after 37!!! consecutive years.  Just can't get up the energy.  Haven't
    been in SPROTS for over a year, but came in to see who's still around. 
    Well, back to the trenches.  See you in another year.
    
    RTG (I almost forgot what my moniker was)