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Title:Sports 93-96 Archive. No new notes allowed
Notice:Chainsaw's last standSPORTS_97
Moderator:HBAHBA::HAAS
Created:Mon Jan 11 1993
Last Modified:Tue Apr 15 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:302
Total number of notes:117855

47.0. "Just Ask Jake-io II" by PFSVAX::JACOB (Squeelers = Loser Girly Mons ) Mon Jan 11 1993 20:14

    NOw, we've had incarnations of this note in the past that got shut down
    because the subject matter breached what was deemed acceptable by the
    moderators.
    
    Lets keep it kleen, and just have some fun in here.
    
    As usual, I will take up my chair as the self-appointed "Dear Abby" of
    ::SPORTS.  Any and all questions will be fielded, and some may even get
    answered.
    
    Ask Away
    
    JaKe
    
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47.1OURGNG::RIGGENWill Note for foodMon Jan 11 1993 20:483
Hey Jake why the P-name ?

Don't leave out any details on the 24-3 drubbing.
47.2PFSVAX::JACOBSqueelers = Loser Girly Mons Mon Jan 11 1993 20:5511
    I had a little wager with Big'N'Lame on the outcome of the
    STEELERS-Baffle-O debacle, and lost due to the fack that everytime the
    STEELERS seemed to be getting into scoring areas, they fell flat on
    their face and either turned the ball over or O'Donnell got
    sacked('cept fer their firsted drive whence Sir Gary Anderson hit a
    field goal fer the only STEELER points of the game).
    
    Twas a game I'd like to fergit FAST!!
    
    JaKe
    
47.3DECWET::CROUCHAdd water. I make my own gravyTue Jan 12 1993 13:2410
    JaKe,
    
    I have a question.  You know when you get a gob of gunk in the corner
    of yer eye, and you pick it out, and roll it between yer fingers, it
    disappears.  Where does it go?  Is there somewhere in the world where
    it all collects?  Or, does it just get absorbed into your skin?
    
    I needs to know!
    
    Pete
47.4GIAMEM::LEFEBVREPCG Product ManagementTue Jan 12 1993 15:453
    Why do we need 2 junk notes?
    
    Mark.
47.5Cuz JD cain note in this one! 8^)CTHQ::LEARYWhy George why? Because it's there!Tue Jan 12 1993 15:501
    
47.6Why did the Pittsburgh Pirates choke this last year ?OURGNG::RIGGENWill Note for foodTue Jan 12 1993 16:271
47.7PFSVAX::JACOBSqueelers = Loser Girly Mons Tue Jan 12 1993 18:5413
    
    >>I have a question.  You know when you get a gob of gunk in the corner
    >>of yer eye, and you pick it out, and roll it between yer fingers, it
    >>disappears.  Where does it go?  Is there somewhere in the world where
    >>it all collects?  Or, does it just get absorbed into your skin?
    
    Somewhere in Cleveland, there is a house where, after this gunk has
    dissappeared from your hands, it miraculously appears.  The owner of
    this palce also owns a restaurant which is known, by Cleveland
    residents, for it's "unique" mashed potatoes.
    
    JaKe
    
47.8(8^)*PFSVAX::JACOBSqueelers = Loser Girly Mons Tue Jan 12 1993 18:5412
    
    >>     <<< Note 47.4 by GIAMEM::LEFEBVRE "PCG Product Management" >>>

    >>Why do we need 2 junk notes?
    
    >>Mark.

    
    Why do we need Mark.????
    
    JaKe
    
47.9PFSVAX::JACOBSqueelers = Loser Girly Mons Tue Jan 12 1993 18:5613
    
    >>        <<< Note 47.6 by OURGNG::RIGGEN "Will Note for food" >>>
    >>       -< Why did the Pittsburgh Pirates choke this last year ? >-
    
    C'mon, it's 1993, do ya gotta rub that in some more??? The team is
    nothing more than a shadow of waht it was lasted year and the best I
    cain hope fer is 4th place this year, unless Leyland has some magic
    left in his hat.
    
    (8^(*
    
    JaKe
    
47.10It was '93...ROYALT::ASHEIt's big, heavy, it's wood...Tue Jan 12 1993 21:132
    What happened to the Steelers Sunday?  (smiley goes here)...
    
47.11What happened to the Steelers Sunday?FRETZ::HEISERarms raised in a VTue Jan 12 1993 21:141
    
47.12CELTIK::JACOBSqueelers=Girly Mon Losers Tue Jan 12 1993 21:158
    Two words describe what happened to the STEELERS:
    
    
    
    THEY SUCKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    JaKe
    
47.13ROYALT::ASHEIt's big, heavy, it's wood...Tue Jan 12 1993 21:401
    Thanks for the orignality Mike...
47.14notes collisionFRETZ::HEISERarms raised in a VTue Jan 12 1993 22:221
    
47.15I got mine back, when do you get yours??ACESMK::FRANCUSMets in '93Wed Jan 13 1993 00:584
    Jake, love that p-name.
    
    The Crazy Met
    
47.16AKOCOA::J_RODOPOULOSThu Jan 14 1993 17:397
    Question for ya Jake:  Is Yogi Berra trying to be funny when he says
    those things or does he have trouble speaking English ?
    
    I seriously do not know the answer, and would like some insights from
    Jake and the rest of you.
    
    John "D Cowboys" R.
47.17CAMONE::WAYCheez-Whiz, Choice of ChampionsThu Jan 14 1993 17:5414
>    Question for ya Jake:  Is Yogi Berra trying to be funny when he says
>    those things or does he have trouble speaking English ?
    
It's not so much trouble with english, as kind of not having the 
entire cliche down pat.

There was a column in the old SPORTS file called Colemanballs or
something like that, and if you get VOGON news they are occasionally
in there.  They are similar, mostly taken from BBC commentators who
say things like what Yogi said...

If I can find some, I'll post them, and you'll see what I mean....

'Saw
47.18CUPMK::DEVLINJunk Note Free ZoneThu Jan 14 1993 18:2812
Saw -

I don't think you should say "Colemanballs" in this rendition of SPORTS.
I know yer a mod, but cain you please use the term:

  "Colemanfilberts"

from now on.

Thank You.

JD
47.19CAMONE::WAYCheez-Whiz, Choice of ChampionsThu Jan 14 1993 18:4120
>I don't think you should say "Colemanballs" in this rendition of SPORTS.
>I know yer a mod, but cain you please use the term:
>
>  "Colemanfilberts"
>
>from now on.


I would, excepting that Colemanballs is similar to a product name, or 
a title.   I mean, you wouldn't say "Oh, I have to buy some golf filberts
before I can hit the links this afternoon".   No, you'd say "I have
to buy some golf balls".

It's the same with Colemanballs.   "I say, dear Chap, does Privite Eye
magazine have the latest column of Colemanballs?"


hth,
quite,
'Saw
47.20PFSVAX::JACOBSqueelers = Loser Girly Mons Thu Jan 14 1993 19:0710
    
    >>Question for ya Jake:  Is Yogi Berra trying to be funny when he says
    >>those things or does he have trouble speaking English ?
    
    Besides having the IQ of a green grape, Yogi suffers form Clich-lexia,
    a form of dyslexia that makes the sufferer mix up and totally foul up
    cliches.
    
    JaKe
    
47.21MSBCS::BRYDIENixon in '96!Thu Jan 14 1993 19:102
    
     Yogi denies making most of the quotes attributed to him.
47.22PATE::MACNEALruck `n' rollThu Jan 14 1993 19:124
47.23FRETZ::HEISERarms raised in a VThu Jan 14 1993 19:534
    Speaking of Yogi, did anyone see the episode of Basketball's Funniest
    Practical Jokes where they had the professional double talker with
    Stacy King and Bill Cartwright?  Funny thing is that Yogi sounds like
    him without trying.
47.24FDCV06::KINGThe Jessinator, Not just a child!!!!!Fri Jan 15 1993 10:573
    It should Be.. "Yogi has denied the quotes spoken by him... "
    
    REK
47.25ACESMK::FRANCUSMets in '93Mon Mar 08 1993 15:4316
    
    Well it is Monday, a day I am sure MtM has been looking forward to; his
    notes certainly seem to indicate that. 
    
    Anyways JaKe I have a question I hope you can help with.
    
    Over the weekend I overheard a discussion on the A topic. My question
    for you is:
    
    
    In your opinion who really Assasinated JFK?
    
    Thank you in advance for your insight into thus matter
    
    The Crazy Met
    
47.26MKFSA::LONGI got friends in low placesMon Mar 08 1993 15:571
WHOOOP  WHOOOP  WHOOP  TROUBLEMAKER ALERT  WHOOOP WHOOOP WHOOOP
47.27Ulfie killed JFK! He hit him with a cheapshot!AXIS::ROBICHAUDNotEconomicallyViableMon Mar 08 1993 16:181
    
47.28PFSVAX::JACOBI'm a Moderator's Worst Nightmare!!Mon Mar 08 1993 21:157
    TCM,
    
    I'm in the process of launching a full scale investigation as I type
    this, I'll get back to ya with the finding as soon as I get them.
    
    JaKe
    
47.29PFSVAX::JACOBPlayin with the box the kids came in!Tue Mar 16 1993 03:109
    TCM,
    
    I ain't forgot about ya.  It's just that exhuming a body by the cover
    of night takes time.  
    
    The investigation is nearing it's end.
    
    JaKe
    
47.30ROYALT::ASHET. Kennedy: Good senator, bad dateTue Mar 16 1993 18:172
    How much different would the respecive groups be if Peter Garrett led
    REM and Michael Stipe led Midnight Oil?
47.31METSNY::francusMets in '93Mon Mar 29 1993 20:315
JaKe,

have you exhumed the body yet??

The Crazy Met
47.32PFSVAX::JACOBThe Charley Tuna of SPROTSMon Mar 29 1993 23:526
    Yeah, TCM, and it sure did stink.  Toxicology reports are due in soon,
    plus my investigators are in Florida following up on a lead that, if
    true, could shock the entertainment industry.
    
    JaKe
    
47.33ACESMK::FRANCUSMets in '93Fri Apr 09 1993 22:035
    JaKe I appreciate your need to be thorough but 2 weeks is a dogone
    awful long time to wait for a toxicology report.
    
    The Crazy Met
    
47.34PFSVAX::JACOBReality, 4 people who can't face drugsSat Apr 10 1993 17:5516
    >>           <<< Note 47.33 by ACESMK::FRANCUS "Mets in '93" >>>

    >>JaKe I appreciate your need to be thorough but 2 weeks is a dogone
    >>awful long time to wait for a toxicology report.
    
    >>The Crazy Met
    
    Well, the reports are in, but we been studying and perusing the use of
    backwards masking on Elvis' tunes and the possibility of them
    containing info relevant to the shooting.  Plus, we've heard there may
    be a link between those, and newly released Nirvana garbage.
    
    We did find that Kennedy's`lasted meal tastes horrible now, though.
    
    JaKe
    
47.35ACESMK::FRANCUSMets in '93Sun Apr 11 1993 02:455
    thanks for the update JaKe. Carry on with the important work you are
    doing.
    
    The Crazy Met
    
47.36ROYALT::ASHEDet. Teamsters:92-93 DEChoop champsWed Apr 28 1993 17:141
    How come you can't order Sweet and Sour Beef at a Chinese Restaurant?
47.37good questionFRETZ::HEISERdebt freeWed Apr 28 1993 18:041
    I think you should market that one, Walt.
47.38PFSVAX::JACOBMy minds just not in itWed Apr 28 1993 20:328
    >><<< Note 47.36 by ROYALT::ASHE "Det. Teamsters:92-93 DEChoop champs" >>>

    >>How come you can't order Sweet and Sour Beef at a Chinese Restaurant?
    
    Cause they don't have sweet cows in China.
    
    JaKe
    
47.39PFSVAX::JACOBSometimes Love Just Ain't EnoughFri May 14 1993 20:4510
    TCM,
    
    It HAS come to the attention of those working on getting an answer to
    your question that 
    
    The Butler may have done it.
    
    
    JaKe
    
47.40AKOCOA::J_RODOPOULOSTue May 18 1993 17:459
    Dear Jake,
    
    We have heard a lot of talk about Dana Smith's coaching ability at UNC.
    If he is such a good BB coach why has the NBA ignored his tremendous
    talents ?  Are NBA teams missing out on something ?
    
    Just wondering,
    
    John "D Cowboys" R.
47.41PFSVAX::JACOBSometimes Love Just Ain't EnoughTue May 18 1993 19:598
    re-.1
    
    It's his ability to choke on the smallest sliver of chicken bone when
    the title's on the line.
    
    JaKe
    
    
47.42ROYALT::ASHEWe don't have to take our clothes offTue May 18 1993 21:553
    If there's a George Strait singing country, is there a counterpart to
    him?  Not Doc Rivers either...
    
47.43Help MEEeeeeeeeSALEM::DODAGreen Grass and High Tides ForeverWed May 26 1993 17:3325
Jake,

Help me out will ya...

This dope asked me to name a song that's been going through his 
head and I'm stuck. To make it worse, I can't get the freakin 
thing outta my skull now.

Lines that I know of:

"When I was young,
and out on my own,
I hadn't a care..

blah blah blah

"Then one day you came into my life,
it was just like living a dream,
and oooo, I want you...

Title and artist.

Input accepted from any Jake_wannbees....

daryll
47.44phone Heiser.....;^)CSTEAM::FARLEYMegabucks Winner WannabeeWed May 26 1993 18:1614
    
    Daryll,
    
    Yabbut there aint nobody here who'z a JaKe_Wannabee so you ain't gonna
    get no answers!  Try the ::Music notesfile. (Ah'll let MtM get the node
    for you).
    
    You could change your request so DontWannabelike_JaKe's could answer
    ya here though.
    
    I remain,
    glad you didn't sing that song here!
    Kev
    
47.45How's this?SOLANA::MAY_BROxymoron:Clinton's Trust FundWed May 26 1993 19:0218
>                <<< CAM::$1$DUA5:[NOTES$LIBRARY]SPORTS.NOTE;1 >>>
>                                  -< SPORTS >-
>================================================================================
>Note 27.1550               Honorary Mike JN Junk Note               1550 of 1550
>FRETZ::HEISER "raise your voice in shouts of joy"     4 lines  26-MAY-1993 14:49
>                            -< balls in your court >-
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>    Heiser _is_ a musical elitist, still don't mean he knows sh#t, just means
>>    he thinks he does.
    
>    Brews, prove that I don't, if you're main enough.
    
    I think everyone will agree that this is the only appropriate way to
    decide the issue.  Oh, eminent one, what is your answer?
    
    respectively submitted,
    
    brews
47.46I'll supply the answer if you ask the questionFRETZ::HEISERraise your voice in shouts of joyWed May 26 1993 19:040
47.47SOLANA::MAY_BROxymoron:Clinton's Trust FundWed May 26 1993 19:084
    
    but I want someone unbiased.  8^)
    
    brews
47.48SPROTS JeopardyFRETZ::HEISERraise your voice in shouts of joyWed May 26 1993 19:092
    like I said in 27.*, 'Saw, JD, Jake, Hawk, and MrT have all heard one
    of my demo tapes.
47.49PFSVAX::JACOBMonica Seles sponsor=Slice SodaWed May 26 1993 19:4614
    
    >>decide the issue.  Oh, eminent one, what is your answer?
    
    Uh, I'd say this Heiser guy, whoever he is, is a musical elitist and
    only thinks he knows what he's talking about.
    
    Sheesh, anybody who doesn't think Air Supply is GAWD fits in to that
    description, ya know.
    
    (8^)*
    
    
    JaKe
    
47.50you've been warnedFRETZ::HEISERraise your voice in shouts of joyWed May 26 1993 20:303
>    Sheesh, anybody who doesn't think Axx Sxxxxx is GAWD fits in to that
    
    BBRRrrrrrrrrr!  NEVER MENTION THOSE 2 WORDS IN HERE AGAIN!
47.51PFSVAX::JACOBMonica Seles sponsor=Slice SodaWed May 26 1993 20:3418
**ANSWER AT BOTTOM**
    
>>This dope asked me to name a song that's been going through his 
>>head and I'm stuck. To make it worse, I can't get the freakin 
>>thing outta my skull now.

>>Lines that I know of:

>>"When I was young,
>>and out on my own,
>>I hadn't a care..
    
    The song is "I Need You", by The CLimax Blues Band, circa 1980.
    
    Schnorttt Schittt Schleppps
    
    JaKe
    
47.52SOLANA::MAY_BROxymoron:Clinton's Trust FundWed May 26 1993 20:374
    
    Jak has spoken.  Sorry Mike, you lose.
    
    brews
47.53Just for you, Mike HeiserPFSVAX::JACOBMonica Seles sponsor=Slice SodaWed May 26 1993 20:3874
    
    >>BBRRrrrrrrrrr!  NEVER MENTION THOSE 2 WORDS IN HERE AGAIN!
    
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47.54Score is tied 1-1FRETZ::HEISERraise your voice in shouts of joyWed May 26 1993 20:413
>    Jak has spoken.  Sorry Mike, you lose.
    
    Brews, read 27.1539.
47.55FRETZ::HEISERraise your voice in shouts of joyWed May 26 1993 20:431
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47.56still 1-0SOLANA::MAY_BROxymoron:Clinton's Trust FundWed May 26 1993 20:466
    
    Sorry, Mike, 'saws opinion doesn't matter.  Regardless, he said you
    were an accomplished guitarist, didn't say you knew what you were
    talking about.  8^)
    
    brews
47.57GOtchaPFSVAX::JACOBMonica Seles sponsor=Slice SodaWed May 26 1993 20:467
    
    Hey Mike, I figgered out what ya did right away, and just did a "reply"
    , set into that buffer, and didn't have to feed thru yer ~77 form
    feeds.
    
    JaKe
    
47.58Jake, you golldang technowienieFRETZ::HEISERraise your voice in shouts of joyWed May 26 1993 20:481
    
47.59PFSVAX::JACOBMonica Seles sponsor=Slice SodaWed May 26 1993 20:518
    >> <<< Note 47.58 by FRETZ::HEISER "raise your voice in shouts of joy" >>>
    >>                  -< Jake, you golldang technowienie >-
    
    In your words, Mike "Air Supply Lover" Heiser.
    
    
    JaKe
    
47.60somebody mention Air Supply? ;^)CSTEAM::FARLEYMegabucks Winner WannabeeWed May 26 1993 20:531
    
47.61time to pay you a visitFRETZ::HEISERraise your voice in shouts of joyWed May 26 1993 20:536
>    Sorry, Mike, 'saws opinion doesn't matter.  Regardless, he said you
>    were an accomplished guitarist, didn't say you knew what you were
>    talking about.  8^)
    
    Brews, what kind of music do you like?  I'll surprise you in the next week
    or so with something.
47.62it's the right thing to doFRETZ::HEISERraise your voice in shouts of joyWed May 26 1993 20:543
    Ya know, there are conferences on the net where replies containing the
    words Axx Sxxxxx are set hidden by the mods.  I think we should adopt
    that policy.
47.63SOLANA::MAY_BROxymoron:Clinton's Trust FundWed May 26 1993 21:058
>    Brews, what kind of music do you like?  I'll surprise you in the next week
>    or so with something.
    
    Mike, as nearly everyone knows, I'm a BIG Air Supply fan.  So, bring over
    your surprise.  Shouldn't you guys be moving over here soon, anyway? 
    Aren't they closing your building?  Did you every find our library?
    
    brews 
47.64FRETZ::HEISERraise your voice in shouts of joyWed May 26 1993 21:096
>    your surprise.  Shouldn't you guys be moving over here soon, anyway? 
>    Aren't they closing your building?  Did you every find our library?
    
    We move out to a leased building on Labor Day weekend.  I haven't
    attempted to find the library yet.  I may not need to since what I was
    looking for arrived on my manager's desk the other day.
47.65SOLANA::MAY_BROxymoron:Clinton's Trust FundWed May 26 1993 21:151
    where are you moving to?  we haven't heard about us yet?
47.66FRETZ::HEISERraise your voice in shouts of joyWed May 26 1993 21:163
    our building is on Hardy south of Broadway.  It's tough to find leased
    space with a decent sized raised-floor computer room and backup
    generator.
47.67SOLANA::MAY_BROxymoron:Clinton's Trust FundWed May 26 1993 21:195
    
    yuck, ldon't like that area.  Rumor is we're looking at IBM's old
    buikding on Camelback.  It's closer to home for me.
    
    
47.68take Symington's placeFRETZ::HEISERraise your voice in shouts of joyWed May 26 1993 21:211
    it also better suits you velour lovin' yuppies.
47.69SOLANA::MAY_BROxymoron:Clinton's Trust FundWed May 26 1993 21:243
    
    and I won't be able to take you to lunch in my Volvo.  At least it
    keeps us away from the riffraff.
47.70Here I am... the one that you love...ROYALT::ASHEBurning both ends of the knife...Wed May 26 1993 21:271
    I bet Bruce's neighbor loves Air Supply...
47.71SOLANA::MAY_BROxymoron:Clinton's Trust FundWed May 26 1993 21:4311
    
    Walt, we are having a pool built (as we note).  Her f-i-l wanted us to
    put in the pool, so they could use it.  Obviously, I was all for the
    idea, but my wife wasn't.  Anyway, we will have a poolwarming party
    soon, and of all the noters in here, due to you deep interest in the
    subject, I think I'll invite you as the first sports.noter.
         
    BTW- when my wife sees her around the neighborhood, she says she's not
    very friendly.  I told her I disagreed.
    
    brews
47.72FRETZ::HEISERraise your voice in shouts of joyWed May 26 1993 21:512
    you better change your tune about Axx Sxxxxx or I'll tell your wife
    about your "friend."
47.73Even the nights are better..ROYALT::ASHEBurning both ends of the knife...Wed May 26 1993 22:104
    Well, I know this guy who might be interested, can I send him instead?
    I'm just looking out for him.  He's name is Frank...
    
    
47.74SOLANA::MAY_BROxymoron:Clinton's Trust FundWed May 26 1993 22:195
    Does he like Air Supply, or Sousa marches?  He'll need a navigator,
    though.
    
    brews
    
47.75ROYALT::ASHEBurning both ends of the knife...Wed May 26 1993 22:311
    I think he likes Sousa, but I'm not sure...
47.76PFSVAX::JACOBMonica Seles sponsor=Slice SodaWed May 26 1993 22:347
    re Heiser and brews BS'ing,
    
    DTN::PHONECALL
    
    
    JaKe
    
47.77hope this helpsFRETZ::HEISERraise your voice in shouts of joyWed May 26 1993 22:551
    Jake, I tried that but it said "file not found"
47.78SOLANA::MAY_BROxymoron:Clinton's Trust FundThu May 27 1993 00:062
    oh, excuse meeee for filling this important note with junk notes.  I'll 
    try to follow your example, from now on. ~\~
47.79PFSVAX::JACOBMonica Seles sponsor=Slice SodaThu May 27 1993 01:137
    Glad ya see it that way, brews.
    
    
    (8^)*
    
    JaKe
    
47.80A true Renaissance manRUGBY1::wayHong Kong Cavalier WannabeThu May 27 1993 12:1240
"Making Love Outta Nothing At All"

"I'm All Outta Love"


Those are the two Air Supply titles I remember.



"Reminiscing"

"Lady"


Those are the two Little River Band titles I can remember.




"Semper Fidelis"
"Nobles of the Mystic Shrine"
"The Gridiron Club"
"The Washington Post"

Those are my current Sousa favorites...


"Washington Grays"  by C. Grafulla is probably the hardest march I ever
had to play.  



If that fails to dazzle Brews' neighbor, perhaps I can charm her with
my stupid tongue tricks.....   (If she REALLY wants to be dazzled, I can
show her a few tricks I learned at a rugby drinkup.  Substitute the word
tongue with a word that rhymes with one of the other words, and you'll
know what I mean.....)


'Saw
47.81(out of nothing at all...) repeatROYALT::ASHEBurning both ends of the knife...Thu May 27 1993 13:202
    Ah yes...
    
47.82CSC32::M_MACGREGORThu May 27 1993 14:168
    
    Saw,  I know what you mean about Washington Grays.  I played first
    trumpet in the Northeastern University band last year (well the second
    first trumpet 8^) and they needed someone to play 4th.  Reluctantly I
    agreed.  The 4th was tougher than most of the pieces I'd played before.
    
    Marc
    
47.83RUGBY1::wayZanzibar Buck-Buck McFateThu May 27 1993 17:2833
Being primarily a keyboard player throughout my years of school, I played
trumpet mostly for fun.

I went to music camp two summer in HS (Jr, Sr year) then two summers in
college as a counselor.  In my third year, I actually sat second chair.
Well, you guessed it, we played Washington Grays.  Those runs in there were
totally hellacious, and I couldn't play all of them.

Fortunately, the girl playing first chair was as good on the trumpet as I
was on keyboards -- it was definitely her major instrument and she was
very accomplished, so she's banging out these runs, and I'm just picking out
every other note.

That worked great until she got sick on Wednesday night and was medivaced for
appendicitis!

So, I'm sitting first chair, and although the conductor was a cool guy, he
spent about 90 minutes of one rehearsal jumping all over me about that run.

Finally, I lost my cool, stood up, said "F*** this, and f*** you, I don't
need this sh*t" and walked out of the rehearsal.  You could have heard a pin
drop.

Fortunately, the girl sitting first chair was back for the concert, but by
then I could play those runs.   Did A LOT of woodshedding on those damn
runs, and to this day I'm still kind of proud of that.....


So, these days I love to listen to Washington Grays, but wouldn't want to
play it.  I wonder what the baritone part is like.....8^)


'Saw
47.84MSBCS::BRYDIEThe Peter Principle in actionThu May 27 1993 17:313
    
    
      Take it to SOUSA::BAND_NERDS.
47.85RUGBY1::wayZanzibar Buck-Buck McFateThu May 27 1993 17:4813
Do me, as Marky Mark would say. 8^)

Bands are a great American tradition, and with the Patriotic holidays
coming up, folks should remember that.....

Band music might not be as hoity-toity as some orchestra music, but it's
good stuff nonetheless....


Tommy must be a Pool player.....


'Saw
47.86DECWET::METZGERImagine your logo here.Thu May 27 1993 17:499
>Tommy must be a Pool player.....


>'Saw


  Just pocket pool....


47.87MSBCS::BRYDIEThe Peter Principle in actionThu May 27 1993 18:366
    
    re .86
    
    Now you done gone and hurt my feelings. Just when the emotional
    scars from TCM's abuse have started to heal you gone and opened
    up a fresh wound.
47.88I'm sure those barbs from the crazy cub cut deep...DECWET::METZGERImagine your logo here.Thu May 27 1993 18:435
It was an opening too good to pass up...


Metz
47.89love shackFRETZ::HEISERraise your voice in shouts of joyThu May 27 1993 18:482
    Tommy is such a connoisseur of fine music that his band nerd comment was
    surprising.
47.90Because love grows where my Rosemary goes...ROYALT::ASHEWonder who's cryin' nowThu May 27 1993 18:531
    Shouldn't that be love Shaq?
47.91RUGBY1::wayZanzibar Buck-Buck McFateThu May 27 1993 19:3915
Well, I want it known that I was not intending any harm to Tommy.

I was making a vague reference to the crux of the plot of the Music Man,
wherein the con-man Professor Harold Hill gets the parents of River City IA
to consider buying band instruments for their children by rousing their
ire over the presence of a pool table in their community.

Trouble, with a capital "T" and that rhymes with "P" and that stands for
Pool!


8^)


'Saw
47.92I really didMSBCS::BRYDIEThe Peter Principle in actionThu May 27 1993 20:172
    
     I knew that.
47.93ACESMK::FRANCUSMets in '93Fri May 28 1993 02:365
    Metz, thanks for helping out; wouldn't want Tommy to get too
    complacent.
    
    The Crazy Met
    
47.94PFSVAX::JACOBMick Jagger NEVER did me,NEVER willFri May 28 1993 02:4120
    
>>         <<< Note 47.86 by DECWET::METZGER "Imagine your logo here." >>>

>>>Tommy must be a Pool player.....


>>>'Saw


>>  Just pocket pool....

    Where there's never a winner, cause the "referee" always gets sick and
    "throws up".
    
    
    JaKe
    


    
47.95Tommy Brydie == sensitive guy of the 90sTNPUBS::MCCULLOUGHMelanie is crawling!!!Fri May 28 1993 13:121
Don't worry, we all really love you Tommy...
47.96ACESMK::FRANCUSMets in '93Fri May 28 1993 14:036
    re: .95
    
    Hey =Bob= speak for yourself!! :-)
    
    The Crazy Met
    
47.97ROYALT::ASHERedSox, Northwestern, LucciFri May 28 1993 21:243
    If anyone read a note I just put it, PLEASE ignore it... I was kidding,
    I shouldn't have put it in and had no intention of anyone else reading
    it....
47.98PFSVAX::JACOBThe chin matches the rest of the haidWed Jun 02 1993 01:2689
    TCM, finally my investigation was over.  I assembled all of the
    evidence, came to the conclusions on who did it, wrote up the report to
    put in here, then the knock at the door.  This CIa dude walks in, black
    magic marker in hand, looks at the report I typed up, slashes out
    everything that could be harmful to National Security(Oxymoron there,
    eh?), and says go ahead and put the rest in here.  So, here's what he
    left me keep in:
    
    
    JFK                                        and                   I
                      so
    
    
    
                       and the                                Dallas
    
    
    
    
    
    Oswald                                             porno theatre
    
    
    
    
    				Mickey Mouse
    
    
    Psychiatrist				"I didn't say Minnie was
    crazy, I said she was f__king Goofy!!"                       
    
    
    
                        and
    
    
    
      the                                       burlap bag, tube of K-Y
    Jelly, and a Monkey                                   
    
    
    
    Bang Bang                                                                  
    
    
    
    
    
                              and the                               LBJ
    
    
    
    
    
    
    "Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah, Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah"
    
    
    
    
    
    
    					Marilyn Monroe
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    			Deputy Dawg
    
    
    
    
    
    
    The butler did it.
    
    
    
    
    
    Sorry
    
    JaKe
    
    
47.99Make the ball biggerELMAGO::BENBACAI am Not a Fig Plucker!Wed Jun 02 1993 02:509
    Jake, I have a question(s) for you.
    
    If there were a pro basketball team in Pittsburg would you be a
    fan(atic) of theirs??
    
    Does Micheal JoRdEn Palm, walk with the ball or is it just an
    illusion??
    
    Ben
47.100Sorry, couldn't resist :-)ELMAGO::BENBACAI am Not a Fig Plucker!Wed Jun 02 1993 02:512
        
        *S*N*A*R*F*
47.101PFSVAX::JACOBThe chin matches the rest of the haidWed Jun 02 1993 02:5832
    
    >>If there were a pro basketball team in Pittsburg would you be a
    >>fan(atic) of theirs??
    
    I truly don't know.  Backsketball never really interested me at all. 
    Duno, maybe because I'm only just under 5'8" and wasn't worth a damn at
    it, or maybe not.  I doubt it that I'd go whole hog over them, though.
    
    >>Does Micheal JoRdEn Palm, walk with the ball or is it just an
    >>illusion??
    
    I think nowadays, travelling is only called if it's a distance greater
    than the New York-Washington D.C train ride, anything shorter than that
    is overlooked.  Hell, that's what I cain't understand, used to be ya
    took more than a step and ya was called, nowadays, they take waht
    appears to me to be 2-1/2 to three steps and nothin is called.  Another
    gripe of mine is that Backsketball is *SUPPOSED* to be a non-contact
    sport.  HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, there's more contact in the average
    backsketball game than the whole New England Patriot's offensive line
    sees in a whole season.
    
    Another gripe of mine is the "three-pointer".  If baseball did what
    Backsketball did when they instituted the three pointer, they'd add
    another wall behind the first outfield wall, and call anything over
    that a double homer, meaning the batter's run was worth two, or in the
    case of football, anything in excess of a 50 yard TD play would be
    worth 9 points, instead of 6.
    
    IMNSHO, backsketball sucks.
    
    JaKe
    
47.102ELMAGO::BENBACAI am Not a Fig Plucker!Wed Jun 02 1993 03:5313
    Yep, they need to change just a couple of things to make it more
    interesting. 
    
    They should make the basket ball bigger so that they can't palm
    (able to hold on to it even if it is facing down)it on the dribble.
    
    
    Raise the basket another foot(at least) so that only a few could
    actually dunk. They would have to learn how to lay it up.
    
    Leave the three point shot but only from beyond the halfcourt line.
    No timeouts in the last two minutes :-)
    
47.103PFSVAX::JACOBThe chin matches the rest of the haidWed Jun 02 1993 12:3713
    I agree with ya Ben.
    
    Get rid of the present size of backsketball, use a medicine ball
    instead.  Raise the basket to 22 feet, make the court about 50 yards
    long, and 35 yards wide, allow blocking of defenders, knives are
    optional, bullet-proof vests are mandatory, guns allowed, nothing
    bigger than a .38 though.  OOPS, starting to sound like local high
    school backsketball there,eh??
    
    (8^)
    
    JaKe
    
47.104AKOCOA::J_RODOPOULOSTue Jun 08 1993 14:386
    Jake,
    
    Why do people insist on calling BB players "ball handlers" ?  And how
    does one become a good "ball handler", is it practice ?
    
    John "D Cowboys" R.
47.105Stickem?ELMAGO::BENBACAI Pluck Figs!!Wed Jun 09 1993 03:415
     Grow big hands sows that you can "handle" the ball   :-)
    
     FaKe 
    
    (Sorry JaKe, couldn't resist answering)
47.106SOSCNTROL::CHILDSGunga Drain Indian type WaterBoyWed Jun 09 1993 15:0810
Dear Jake,

	I was watching this show on abc last night that came on after
HI I think. It had this beautiful little Woman in it who was running
a business her husband was a teacher and this Don Johnson wannabe radio
manager was almost as hot for her as I was...What's her name? 

mike    

47.107PATE::MACNEALruck `n' rollWed Jun 09 1993 15:141
    Mike are you in a time warp or somethin?  HI is not on until Wednesday.
47.108WTMWCNTROL::CHILDSGunga Drain Indian type WaterBoyWed Jun 09 1993 18:027
              <<< Note 47.107 by PATE::MACNEAL "ruck `n' roll" >>>

    Mike are you in a time warp or somethin?  HI is not on until Wednesday.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
	certainly would explain a few things.....

 mike
47.109PFSVAX::JACOBWed Jun 09 1993 20:489
    re.106
    
    Dunno, didn't see it and the wifee already threw out this week's TV
    Guide.
    
    Sorry
    
    JaKe
    
47.110PFSVAX::JACOBWed Jun 09 1993 20:5221
    
    >>Why do people insist on calling BB players "ball handlers" ?  And how
    >>does one become a good "ball handler", is it practice ?
    
    
    Beeing as it is imperative to wear a "cup" fer one's own protection
    whilst playing this sport, and the propensity of the cup to continually
    move to the most uncomfortable spot it cain, the player must make
    "adjustments" both to the cup and to it's contents.  Therefore, the
    name "ball handler".
    
    How does one become a good "ball handler"??  Well, good ballhandling
    skill are developed almost from birth, with a very busy learning period
    at about the age of 3, at least Nathan, my 3 year old, has been
    practicing his "ball handling" skills almost continually recently.
    
    
    Schnorttt Schittt Schleppps
    
    JaKe
    
47.111PFSVAX::JACOBWed Jun 09 1993 20:5311
    
>>HI I think. It had this beautiful little Woman in it who was running
    
    hey Mike, you either need glasses or need new glasses, that was
    "Roseanne".
    
    
    Yuccccccccccccchhh
    
    JaKe
    
47.112METSNY::francusMets in '93Wed Jun 09 1993 21:006
re: .110

JaKe we already have heard evidence that Nathan is a very precocious
child.

The Crazy Met
47.113still need a nameCNTROL::CHILDSGunga Drain Indian type WaterBoyThu Jun 10 1993 12:4212
 naw Jake, freakin' Hawk would kill me if I started mess around with
 Rosanne...by with that slender figure of hers who knows??  ;^)

 well I checked the paper and the show was "Room for Two". Unfortunately
 the paper didn't list any credits. 

 Mac,  the confusion was I saw an HI commericial and assumed that because
 it's the rerun season they moved it in as a filler because of it's 
 high ratings....

 mike
47.114ROYALT::ASHEMomma's all right, daddy's all rightThu Jun 10 1993 13:333
    Was that the show with Linda Lavin?  I thought it got da boot a long
    time ago...
    
47.115CNTROL::CHILDSGunga Drain Indian type WaterBoyThu Jun 10 1993 13:476
yup that's the one Walt. Speaking of Linda Lavin, I think she's aged pretty
dam nice looking better than in her "Alice" days. Of course than again time
may have lowered my standards....

mike
47.116PATE::MACNEALruck `n' rollThu Jun 10 1993 15:384
47.117SOLANA::MAY_BRCanseco,Barkley,/Don?Thu Jun 10 1993 16:165
    
    Mike C-- say it ain't  so! Linda Lavin??  You must be aging awfully
    fast to have time lower your standards that low.  
    
    brews
47.118The girls all git purtier at closin' timeMKFSA::LONGPump it up! A little more to the left.Thu Jun 10 1993 16:200
47.119METSNY::francusMets in '93Thu Jun 10 1993 17:236
re:.117

The fallacy in tha argument is you are assuming that MikeC had standards.

The Crazy Met
47.120ROOOOOOOollllLLLwAAaarDDCNTROL::CHILDSACChris - Lost IN the LAND of USThu Jun 10 1993 17:495
TCM stick it where the sun don't shine will ya....hahahahaa


great note....
47.121QUASER::JACKSONTATo walk the caves of iceThu Jun 10 1993 17:536
      Dear Jake,
    
      Why would a man (careful) want to pierce his ear(s)?
    
      Tim
    
47.122PFSVAX::JACOBPrince:'just call me..er..sumthin!'Thu Jun 10 1993 19:5414
    
    >>I don't think that's the BB he was referring to.
    
    Be it BaseBall or BacksketBrawl, anybody playing either sport
    nowadays would be an idiot if they didn't wear a cup.  Hail, fer a
    "non-contact" sport, Backsketbrawl sure has a lot of contact, and
    elbows probably find their way to the family jewels pretty damned fast.
    Hail there's probably more contact in a NBA game than the whole
    Patriot's offensive line cain muster up on the best of their Sundays.
    
    Schnortt Schitt Schlepps
    
    JaKe
    
47.123(8^)PFSVAX::JACOBPrince:'just call me..er..sumthin!'Thu Jun 10 1993 19:5719
    
    >>  Why would a man (careful) want to pierce his ear(s)?
    
    >>  Tim
    
    Clearly, it's a foggy subject.
    
    For many, it's because they were bottle fed instead of breast fed, and
    it fouled them up bigtime, but they get wicked aroused at the smell of
    rubber nipples.  For others, it's the early onset of a midlife crisis,
    brought on, probably by them only getting to play an occasional "C"
    side in a Rugby match.  For others, they put a hook type earring in the
    ear and hang their cellular phone headset on it when they have to shift
    to another gear in the pickemup truck.
    
    Schnortt schitt Schlepps
    
    JaKe
    
47.124Let me tell you about Big Johnson Rugby Balls....CAMONE::WAYYe can nae dispute tha'Fri Jun 11 1993 12:3110
I never wore, nor will I wear a cup playing rugby.   I've gotten hit 
there a couple of times but it wasn't anything that a cup would have made
any better.

Besides, the GREATEST pain in the world is when one of your "boys" sneaks
around the side of the cup, then the cup gets hit and the edge of the 
cup plows into that wayward boy.   Bad news....


'Saw
47.125USCTR1::KINGAnybody know a good accident lawyer?????Fri Jun 11 1993 13:1916
>I never wore, nor will I wear a cup playing rugby.   I've gotten hit 
>there a couple of times but it wasn't anything that a cup would have made
>any better.

>Besides, the GREATEST pain in the world is when one of your "boys" sneaks
>around the side of the cup, then the cup gets hit and the edge of the 
>cup plows into that wayward boy.   Bad news....


>'Saw
    
    Ahhh Saw... To waer a cup requires something there to protect....
    
    REK
    
    A very big :-}
47.126CAMONE::WAYYe can nae dispute tha'Fri Jun 11 1993 13:3116
>    Ahhh Saw... To waer a cup requires something there to protect....
>    
>    REK
>    
>    A very big :-}


I don't manage the Big Johnson catalog because of my managerials skills....


(an even BIGGER one....)


'Saw


47.127ROYALT::ASHEStill looking for that bluejean baby queenThu Jun 24 1993 13:312
    Is a Nissan Maxima considered a "Yuppie" car?
    
47.129ROYALT::ASHEStill looking for that bluejean baby queenThu Jun 24 1993 14:044
    Depends on where/who you are I guess...
    
    What about a Maxima with personalized plates???
    
47.131SOLANA::MAY_BRClinton,Guinier,HeiserThu Jun 24 1993 16:119
    
    I think the latest yuppie thing (last couple if years, anyway) is that
    stuupid gold trim crap.  It wasn't too awful bad on benz's, and I
    figgered if I saw it on a seville, it wasn't that surprising, cause the
    driver thought white belt and white shoes looked sharp, but now I see
    it everywhere.  I mean, why spend $1000 bucks to stick it on a Yugo,
    when you could use the money for a decent car?
    
    brews
47.132METSNY::francusMets in '93Thu Jun 24 1993 16:1810
JaKe,

ain't it wonderful to have so many helpers??

'ya know this is the second time I remember Karen in this topic;
come to think of it the last time was when you originally posted your
"Nice Guy" essay. :-)

The Crazy Met
47.133ROYALT::ASHEStill looking for that bluejean baby queenThu Jun 24 1993 17:493
    I've got gold trim on my car... it didn't cost me extra though...
    thought it looked nicer than the traditional, run of the mill silver.
    If it cost me extra, I wouldn't have done it...
47.134CAMONE::WAYShe had a plethora of girthThu Jun 24 1993 17:5416
Walt's car is nuclear.

I mean, you look at it, parked, and it's doing like 85 miles an hour.

One night at the OPP, when Walt let me sit in it, I got out of it
a second or so before Walt.  I was standing next to it, and this
bee-yoo-tee-ful babe gave me this look like "I wanna go for a ride".

Then she saw Walt get out of the drivers seat and she looked at me
as if I was this big imposter.


Yep, Walt's car is HOT.....


'Saw
47.135ROYALT::ASHEStill looking for that bluejean baby queenThu Jun 24 1993 17:573
    Yeah, so there... not like Volvo Brews drives.... I bet his neighbor
    likes gold trim...
    
47.137ROYALT::ASHEStill looking for that bluejean baby queenThu Jun 24 1993 18:042
    No stickers on mine... just the "I support Albany Police" sticker
    inside the back window...
47.138Saw this plate on a Mass carAKOCOA::BREENThank God for Braves on TBS til THE OpenThu Jun 24 1993 18:461
    SPEND
47.139CAMONE::WAYShe had a plethora of girthThu Jun 24 1993 19:3316
I've got a few stickers on my back window:


		o a Digital sticker (out of date now, because it's blue)

		o two rugby stickers
	
		o a WAAF sticker

		o a Simpson sticker


Needs to be washed and waxed too -- maybe this weekend.....


'Saw
47.140METSNY::francusMets in '93Thu Jun 24 1993 19:377
One sticker in back window 

Columbia University

gotta have one of those when living near Harvard.

The Crazy Met
47.141Twas NASTYCTHQ::LEARYMcSorley,McFilthy,McNastyThu Jun 24 1993 19:4317
    
    Hep me with this dilemna JaKe...
    
    Went to a BBQ hosted by some transplanted Pittsburghers this weekend
    whar I had the pleasure ( ??!!) of tasting some Iron City Beer. Trouble
    is I think they forgot to remove the iron... Since they was all_a_glow
    that some ignoramous NE'er would a ever heard of Iron City ( thankee 
    JaKe, billl, glenn, et all), I didn't have the guts to tell 'em it
    reminded me of Gansett (yuck). So tell me JaKe.. didst I get a bad
    batch or is this stuff brewed from the sewage plant off the
    Monongahela??
    
    I gots ta tell 'em da troof someday or they'll continue to poison the
    neighborhood.. 8^)
    
    MikeL
    
47.142curiousFRETZ::HEISERlight without heatThu Jun 24 1993 19:541
    What car do you drive, Walt?
47.143PATE::MACNEALruck `n' rollThu Jun 24 1993 19:541
    Whatsa matta wif Gansett?
47.144PFSVAX::JACOBYou, Me and K.D. LangThu Jun 24 1993 20:0237
    
    >>JaKe, billl, glenn, et all), I didn't have the guts to tell 'em it
    >>reminded me of Gansett (yuck). So tell me JaKe.. didst I get a bad
    >>batch or is this stuff brewed from the sewage plant off the
    >>Monongahela??
    
    Nah, ya probably got some stuff that had been in the can too long.
    I used to think that Iron City was garbage, but recently, when I bought
    a couple of cases with the CLemente cans, I found it's not as bad as I
    remember it to have been.
    
    My personal opinion is that they take the water straight from the
    Allegheny River(the Monongahela gets it's start in West By-God
    Virginny, up in the mountains, and ya never know whut's in the water
    from up there), add some hops and grain and sugar, and ferment it,
    without first purifying the water.  Now, there's and Allegheny Ludlum
    steel plant about 17 miles up the river from the Brewery, so who knows
    what else is in the water.
    
    Iron City, if ya gets it fresh, tastes pretty good, actually, but if ya
    let it sit in the can fer more than a month or so, it eats away at that
    protective layer of junk they put in the cans, and starts disolving the
    aluminum.  That could be why it tastes so bad.  If ya leave a case of
    Iron City sit fer a year or so, it disolves the cans, and the
    cardboard, and just leaves a hole in the concrete in the basement where
    it was sitting.  If yer dog drinks some of it...well....have ya ever
    seen the movie "Cujo"???????
    
    
    Fer Iron City Light, they pass a magnet thru the vat of water before
    they brew wif it.
    
    Schnortt Schitt Schlepps
    
    JaKe
    
    
47.145ROYALT::ASHEWell, 19 tequilas later, we had a dealThu Jun 24 1993 20:042
    Plymouth Laser...
    
47.146CTHQ::LEARYMcSorley,McFilthy,McNastyThu Jun 24 1993 20:129
    Well Mac
    
    Was at a raffle once whar the first prize was a can of Gansett.
    Second prize was a six pack.
    
    Loverly stuff
    
    MikeL
          
47.147PFSVAX::JACOBMets in '94 (2094, that is)Thu Jun 24 1993 20:186
    It's a sad day fer cars when a freakin' Plymouth is a Babe Magnet.
    
    (8^(
    
    JaKe
    
47.148ROYALT::ASHEWell, 19 tequilas later, we had a dealThu Jun 24 1993 20:304
    Sorry, couldn't find a '93 Gremlin...
    
    Answer the question about the Maxima...
    
47.149CAMONE::WAYShe had a plethora of girthThu Jun 24 1993 20:3010
>    It's a sad day fer cars when a freakin' Plymouth is a Babe Magnet.
>    
>    (8^(
>    
>    JaKe


It's a hot car.....  HOT car.
    

47.150PFSVAX::JACOBYou, Me, and K.D. Lang Thu Jun 24 1993 20:3521
    
    >>Sorry, couldn't find a '93 Gremlin...
    
    As you know, Gremlins are extinct.  BUT, the perfect one would be an
    old one wif strategically placed rust holes that make it easy to take a
    whizzzzz on the drive home after a night of some heavy beer drinking. 
    Hail, the floor's rusted away, just whip it out and water down the
    road.  Plus, if the thing stalls, it helps having the rust holes in the
    floor fer that Fred Flintstone style getaway.
    
    >>Answer the question about the Maxima...
    
    Maxima, not too bad a car, BUT, rub the paint long enuf and you'll see
    labels from the Chicken of the Sea cans start to peak thru from the
    cheap steel they use to make them.  Yuppie-mobile, pretty much. 
    Overpriced??You bet.
    
    Schnortt Schitt Schlepps
    
    JaKe
    
47.151DECWET::METZGERPBS = Profitable Barney StationThu Jun 24 1993 20:3512
I know a guy who has a Lexus with gold trim all over it. the problem is that is
has polished silver alloy wheels so the gold trim makes it look like a pimp
mobile (IMHO).

Then again I saw a suziki Samuri the other day..lowered, with flares and tires
that extended out past the flares and all sorts of other stuff plastered to it.
With the money he spent making it look like truckosaurus he couldda bought a
real 4x4...


Metz
47.152ROYALT::ASHEWell, 19 tequilas later, we had a dealThu Jun 24 1993 20:388
    True, gold trim means you must have gold wheels...
    
    I KNOW they don't make a Gremlin.  Or a Pacer.  Wish they still made
    Beetles...  don't believe in picking up the babes in an Acura or a
    Volvo.  And I live too far from the beach to drive a Trans-Am,
    Corvette, Stealth... Mustangs don't have front wheel drive... Grand
    Nationals are gone too, but they're family cars...
    
47.153PFSVAX::JACOBYou, Me, and K.D. Lang Thu Jun 24 1993 20:4110
    
    
    >>							Wish they still made
    >>Beetles... 
    
    I hear ya.  I threw out my back once in a VW Beetle whilst making the
    "beast wif two backs" wif my HS girlfriend.
    
    JaKe
    
47.154PFSVAX::JACOBYou, Me, and K.D. Lang Thu Jun 24 1993 20:4413
    ANybody else see the story today about the woman who waited till her
    hubby was asleep, the got a knife from her kitchen, and carved his
    penicular appendage???  She then got in the car, and took the severed
    portion with her, and threw it out the window down the road a ways. 
    The authorities found it, packed it in ice, and rushed the guy and his
    severed appendage to the hospital, where it was re-attached.
    
    She was arrested, claimed he beat and raped her before he went to
    sleep.  She could get 40 years in the slammer fer her handywork with
    the knife.
    
    JaKe
    
47.155Operations tonight 8pm, The Learning ChannelCAMONE::WAYShe had a plethora of girthThu Jun 24 1993 20:5415
>    The authorities found it, packed it in ice, and rushed the guy and his
>    severed appendage to the hospital, where it was re-attached.
    

If they hadn't have been able to find it, what they usually do is take
a persons finger and use that as the basis of building a new one.   I 
read about a bullfighter who got gored by a bull and this was done for
him -- the original was damaged beyond repair.


What they can do these days with microsurgery is unbelievable....


'Saw    

47.156PFSVAX::JACOBYou, Me, and K.D. Lang Thu Jun 24 1993 20:5610
    
>>What they can do these days with microsurgery is unbelievable....
    
    Well, Saw, maybe fer you it would be micro-surgery, but fer me, it
    would be definitely MACRO-surgery.
    
    (8^)
    
    JaKe
    
47.157the musclecar eraFRETZ::HEISERlight without heatThu Jun 24 1993 20:585
    If a finger is all it took...  nevermind.
    
    As for Plymouths, they've made some great cars over the years.  The
    Roadrunner was an obvious hot car.  All of the Big 3 put out some
    awesome cars in the late '60s.
47.158PFSVAX::JACOBYou, Me, and K.D. Lang Thu Jun 24 1993 21:0010
    I know Plymouth made some hot cars IN THE PAST, hail my Barracuda was a
    screamer.
    
    Nowadays, though, I ain't seen anything from them that looks worth a
    damn.
    
    JMHO
    
    JaKe
    
47.159the forward cabin thingieFRETZ::HEISERlight without heatThu Jun 24 1993 21:031
    How about their version of the Intrepid (Concorde?  Vision?)?
47.160new oneFRETZ::HEISERlight without heatThu Jun 24 1993 21:053
    Did you hear they're putting 2 new faces on Mt. Rushmore?
    
    Bill Clinton
47.161PFSVAX::JACOBYou, Me, and K.D. Lang Thu Jun 24 1993 21:106
    wanna get that the hell outta here, Heiser!!!!!!!
    
    Take it to the note fer you, the Whining Loser note.
    
    JaKe
    
47.162CSC32::GAULKEThu Jun 24 1993 21:2012
    
    >>If they hadn't have been able to find it, what they usually do is take
    >>a persons finger and use that as the basis of building a new one.   I
      
    
      Right, this guy wakes up after surgery and goes to take a 
    leak, before the doctors tell him what happened....
    
     "How did I grow a fingernail?....Hey, that looks like MY ring.."
    
    
       
47.163now there's a familiar username, welcome backFRETZ::HEISERlight without heatThu Jun 24 1993 22:191
    
47.164ROYALT::ASHEWell, 19 tequilas later, we had a dealFri Jun 25 1993 00:481
    The Laser's the same as an Eagle Talon or Mitsubishi Eclipse...
47.165USCTR1::KINGKey West, where the fun begins.......Fri Jun 25 1993 01:2812
    All I got fer bumber stickers is
    
    I brake for whales and
    1988
    1989
    1990
    1991
    1992
    1993
    Lunenburg dump stickers...
    
    REK
47.166SALEM::TIMMONSA waist is a terrible thing to mindFri Jun 25 1993 11:026
    Ref VW Beetles - I heard last week that VW is seriously considering
    bringing back the Beetle.  
    
    Anyone else heard of it?
    
    Lee
47.167the ghost of Stevie Boy Gaulke!GENRAL::WADEready to frameFri Jun 25 1993 12:0312
    
    re. vehicles
    
    	I've got racing stripes down the driver's side of my truck......
    	with a little help from Copenhagen.  
    
    	The ultimate vehicle is a Ford F250 HD (heavy duty), extended
    	cab, XLT package, 4WD, manual tranny, with 7.3 liters of
    	rompin', stompin' diesel engine!  Hey, that sounds just like
    	my truck!
    
    Claybone
47.168WMOIS::COOK_TWhat ever happened to...Fri Jun 25 1993 12:069
    re .166
    
    Lee,
    
    They never stopped making VDub's.  They just stopped selling them in
    the US of A.  There's a plant still running in Mexico...
    
    Conan
    
47.169Elway for President of....CNTROL::CHILDSDeceptively old, almost matureFri Jun 25 1993 13:165
 Mr. X won't you please comeback? I haven't been hit with any sanitary
 napkins in a long long time....................

 mike
47.170CUPMK::DEVLINAgassi - the Hairless wonder...Fri Jun 25 1993 14:3210
VW Beetles.  Love 'em.  When I was dating my wife, 
she was in da passenger seat of my Beetle.  We were 
driving down the road.  Boom, the floor on the passenger
side gives out, almost ejecting her through the floor.

For some reason she never liked that car after that - 
even after me and my buddies welded a new floor on it -
using scrap metal from the Mill...

JD
47.171SALEM::TIMMONSA waist is a terrible thing to mindFri Jun 25 1993 16:584
    Claybone, I got racing strips in my shorts, with a little help from B&M
    Baked Beans.
    
    Lee
47.172CAMONE::WAYShe had a plethora of girthMon Jun 28 1993 11:499
A guy I used to ride with on the ambulance had bought a Barracuda, used,
back in 1982.  Anyway, he found out it was one of a limited edition they
put out with a racing motor in it.

He used to work on it in the spare ambulance bay.  Unbelievable what that
thing would sound like and do.....


'Saw
47.173Memories of a gearheadPFSVAX::JACOBGeez, the METS sure do STINK!!Mon Jun 28 1993 20:0533
    re Barracudas
    
    I bought mine whilst I were stationed in Biloxi, Miss., which by the
    way is the a$$hole of the world, and Keesler AFB was five miles up it.
    
    It had a 273 cu in V8, which I did EXTENSIVE work to, a 4 spped tranny
    off of a 392 Hemi Chrysler, and some dope put a '58 Ford limited slip
    differential into the thing.
    
    After doing tons of stuf to the engine, (and shelling out tons of $$$)
    I finally got the thing down to 12 seconds in the quarter mile.
    
    I drove in north in the winter of '74, coming home fer Christmas, blew
    the rear end whilst in PA., replaced the gears, and on the way back,
    made it 75 miles before developing an internal water leak and blowing
    up the motor(rounded a lobe off of the cam).
    
    There's a bridge just on the eastern side of Bilosi, which crosses over
    the opening to the back bay, and into Ocean Springs.  It's one of those
    long bridges, which raises up in the middle and had a grate-style
    drawbridge in the middle, then drops back down on the other side.
    
    I used to cross that bridge, turn around, and then punch the thing.  By
    the center of the bridge(~2/3 mile) I'd pegged the speedometer(went to
    125) and was back down to about 90mph.  
    
    Had a scare one night when some jerk going the other way launched a
    somewhat full beer can out his window, and it hit the splash pan under
    the front, then veered upward and took out the radiator.  had that
    thing hit the windshield.....
    
    JaKe
    
47.174SALEM::DODAI'll buy that for a dollar!Thu Jul 01 1993 16:2716
The Mexican V-dubs won't pass the National Safety Stds. They're 
not allowed into the US, legally.

MOPAR: Let's not forget the Chargers, Challengers, Super Bees, 
Superbirds, Cudas, and 340 Dusters/Darts/Swingers/Demons.

Guy in the next cube has a '70 Cuda AAR w/340 6pack. 40K original 
miles. Rolling real estate....

I'd kill for a 70 Charger R/T or '70 Coronet R/T ragtop.

Scat Pack, Rapid Transit System, King Richard, Sox & Martin...

Days of Thunder.

daryll
47.175DELNI::CRITZScott Critz, LKG2/1, Pole V3Thu Jul 01 1993 17:108
    	Daryll,
    
    	Back in 1969, at Camp Lejeune, there was a fella there with
    	a nondescript Chevy Biscayne. It had "Insane Biscayne"
    	painted on the rear. Thing had a 427 in it. It was only
    	nondescript until he started it up.
    
    	Scott
47.176QUASER::JACKSONTAShow me that wide riverThu Jul 01 1993 17:165
      Daryll,  Good taste on the Chargers!    Didn't own an R/t, but I did
    restore a '69 Charger.  It was great until I found a palm tree on Palm
    lane in Phoenix.
    
      Tim
47.177ROYALT::ASHESTOP! You're bendin' the shafts!!!Thu Jul 01 1993 17:268
    There was an ad for Liberty on Landsdowne next Wednesday (Sailors
    who have ships in Boston hah-bah for Hah-bahfest get to go out,
    get drunk and chase bimbos).  The ad said "hey ladies, wanna meet
    a sailor from Russia or Italy or somewhere around the world..."
    
    Don't they have wimmen sailors?  If so, wouldn't they try to entice
    men into going?  Or are they saying it ain't worth it?
    
47.178YIPE!SALEM::DODAI'll buy that for a dollar!Thu Jul 01 1993 18:397
Yeah Walt they gots em.

They look like Janet Reno.

Have fun.

daryll
47.179PFSVAX::JACOBThu Jul 01 1993 19:457
    re.178
    
    Too Much, daryll.
    
    
    JaKe
    
47.180PFSVAX::JACOBThu Jul 01 1993 19:4818
    
    
    
    >>				The ad said "hey ladies, wanna meet
    >>a sailor from Russia or Italy or somewhere around the world..."
    
    >>Don't they have wimmen sailors?  If so, wouldn't they try to entice
    >>men into going?  Or are they saying it ain't worth it?             
    
    If yer talking about what's left of the Soviet Navy, who knows whether
    they have wimmen sailors or not.  Judging by the "wimmen" the Soviet
    Union sent to the Olympics, it'd be debatable what is occupying their
    ships.
    
    Schnortt Schitt Schlepps
    
    JaKe
    
47.181ROYALT::ASHESTOP! You're bendin' the shafts!!!Thu Jul 01 1993 21:305
    Not interested, I'll be on the Cape with my girlfriend.  Just curious
    what JaKe had to say... they're not just Russian, they're from all
    over.  Assume they're from Italy, France, etc...
    
    
47.182CAMONE::WAYI got a stiffieThu Jul 01 1993 22:488
I have a question:


	How come military style bathrooms don't have doors on the
	stalls?


'Saw
47.183PFSVAX::JACOBA Sandwich shy of a Picnic BasketFri Jul 02 1993 00:0012
    
    
    >>	How come military style bathrooms don't have doors on the
    >>	stalls?
    
    Being as whole groups are supposed to work as teams in th military,
    it's so everybody cain "share the experience".
    
    Schnortt Schitt Schlepps
    
    JaKe
    
47.184SALEM::TIMMONSA waist is a terrible thing to mindFri Jul 02 1993 10:527
    Hail, on the Destroyers I was on, there weren't any stalls, never mind
    doors.  Five or six s(h)itters in a row, sea water flowing from the
    first to the last then outboard.  Used to be fun watching a new guy
    settled on number five or six when an old hand on number one would
    light toilet paper on fire and let it drive down to the last ones.
    
    Lee
47.185BB 61.WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_MNo.3 looms over Fenway.....Fri Jul 02 1993 11:077
    
    
            Well, on the battleship I was on we had stalls with doors in
    every head (bathroom). The curtains on the showers is what p'd me off.
    
    
    Chappy
47.186CAMONE::WAYI got a stiffieFri Jul 02 1993 11:388
Well, the baffroom in the Armory has stalls but no doors, and I'd never
actually seen that before.  I've heard about it though.....


Thanks for the info!


'Saw
47.187WREATH::DEVLINAgassi - the Hairless wonder...Fri Jul 02 1993 13:429
Lee -

When you were on destroyers, did they have set times to leave the oars so you
could go to the baffroom?  And tell us, was the 'ramming speed' beat really as
fast as the depicted in "Ben Hur"?

:-)

JD
47.188SALEM::TIMMONSA waist is a terrible thing to mindFri Jul 02 1993 13:536
    I can't recall, JD, I was too busy reading Boston media hype about Bill
    Russell, Sam Jones, Bob Cousy, Tom Heinsohn, and the rest of those
    over-exposed World Champions.  Year after year after year.  Really
    boring, know what I mean?
    
    Lee
47.189Hype? what hype?SALEM::DODAI'll buy that for a dollar!Fri Jul 02 1993 13:550
47.190Was Hercules overhyped?CTHQ::LEARYMcSorley,McFilthy,McNastyFri Jul 02 1993 13:579
    Ah JD,
    I knew you always liked gladiator movies! 8^)
    
    Now Jason and the Argonauts averaged 15 knots against the wind cuz they
    had real main-like salt-mine honed pythons like yerself and Popeye.
    No mechanical engines for tjose dudes. Whoops! Wrong note.
    
    MikeL
    
47.191ROYALT::ASHEI like mine with french fried potatoesFri Jul 16 1993 14:481
    What ever happened to Andrea McArdle, the Original Broadway "Annie"?
47.192????CSTEAM::FARLEYMegabucks Winner WannabeeTue Jul 20 1993 20:1316
    
    JaKe,
    
    This has been bothering me for some time and I've been meaning to ask
    ya in the hopes that you'd know the answer.
    
    Question:
    
    
    		Why is pubic hair curley?
    
    
    
    deening to wonk, I remain,
    Kev_the_curley
    
47.193PFSVAX::JACOBFresh off a week of I &amp; ITue Jul 20 1993 20:1410
    
    >>		Why is pubic hair curley?
    
    Well Kev, if it were straight, you'd get yer eyes poked out!!!!!
    
    
    (8^)
    
    JaKe
    
47.194CSTEAM::FARLEYMegabucks Winner WannabeeTue Jul 20 1993 20:157
    
    Wail, what about people who wear glasses?  Wot do they have?
    
    I remain,
    getting deeper and deeper into it!
    Kev
    
47.195PFSVAX::JACOBFresh off a week of I &amp; ITue Jul 20 1993 20:167
    
    >>Wail, what about people who wear glasses?  Wot do they have?
    
    Dirty streaked slimey glasses.
    
    JaKe
    
47.196can't believe I'm doing thisFRETZ::HEISERlight without heatTue Jul 20 1993 22:591
    what about bald people, Jake?
47.197PFSVAX::JACOBFresh off a week of I &amp; ITue Jul 20 1993 23:417
    
    >>what about bald people, Jake?
    
    A damned good shine.
    
    JaKe
    
47.198MSBCS::BRYDIEI need somebody to shove!Thu Jul 22 1993 20:143
 One of my co-workers called me a "Richard-cranium" the other day. Should
 I be offended or flattered?
47.199PFSVAX::JACOBFresh off a week of I &amp; IThu Jul 22 1993 20:1714
    
 >>One of my co-workers called me a "Richard-cranium" the other day. Should
 >>I be offended or flattered?
    
    Lessee, nickname's fer Richard are Rich, Rick, and Dick.
    
    Another word for cranium is Head.
    
    You tell us, Tommy.  If the flue shi...er if the shoe fits!!!
    
    (8^)
    
    JaKe
    
47.200CAMONE::WAYRIP #28Thu Jul 22 1993 21:4415
Tommy,

You have to be careful of two things in life:

	Rectal-Cranial Insertion

and 

	Retro-Cranial Inversion


Other than that, tell your co-worker to go screw....8^)


'Saw
47.201re: -1 should anal retentive be hyphenated?FRETZ::HEISERlight without heatFri Jul 23 1993 00:101
    
47.202I hope I've come to the right placeLCALOR::PETRIEis there crying in *basket*ball?Mon Jul 26 1993 17:1317
  Dear JaKe,

  Yesterday's paper had an ad for women's fashion undergarments designed to
  be worn underneath all that sheer clothing designers are foisting off on
  us these days.  The text said that these semi-sheer undies would provide
  both "interest" and modesty.

  They provided pictures.  Some of the items were labeled "semi-transparent".
  Some of them were labeled "semi-opaque". They all looked like two layers of
  Saran Wrap to me.

  What is the difference between "semi-transparent" and "semi-opaque"?  Not
  that I am planning to purchase either kind at the present time of course. 8^#

  modest & uninteresting near Miami,
  Kath
47.203Gonna need to hose down Jakester before he can answer that one...CTHQ::MCCULLOUGHLindsey and Melanie have a new house...Mon Jul 26 1993 17:150
47.204METSNY::francusMets in '93Mon Jul 26 1993 17:195
> modest & uninteresting 

redundant??

The Crazy Met
47.205CAM3::WAYRIP #28Mon Jul 26 1993 17:2114
><<< Note 47.203 by CTHQ::MCCULLOUGH "Lindsey and Melanie have a new house..." >>>
>     -< Gonna need to hose down Jakester before he can answer that one.. >-


Now there's a picture.   I mean, ponder it for a moment....


Come to think of it, it's a good thing I wasn't eating lunch while I
was pondering it.....


'Saw


47.206CTHQ::LEARYMcSorley,McFilthy,McNastyMon Jul 26 1993 19:1910
    I wouldn't hold ma breath waiting fer a quick response there, Kath.
    
    After all, JaKey has to go back and peruse his wife's 'Victoria's
    Secrets' catalogues before he can give you a cogent response...
    However, cogent response and Jake are anathema. On second thought,
    he'll be in here presently.
    
    8^)
    MikeL
    
47.207PFSVAX::JACOBMon Jul 26 1993 19:5313
    Kath
    
    What store was this????  I think for a proper response on this
    question, I'm going to have to go "undercovers" and do some real
    research, so, as was stated in somebody else's reply, it may take a few
    days.
    
    JaKe
    
    (sitting here drenched from the jerk that turned the fire hose on me
    cause I was spouting smoke from the ears.)
    
    
47.208I hardly dared hope for researchLCALOR::PETRIEis there crying in *basket*ball?Mon Jul 26 1993 21:5417
>What store was this????

  Burdines, the Florida equivalent of Jordan Marsh.  

  I could send the ad if it would help.

  It's wonderful to have a professional such as yourself to turn to for answers
  & guidance in confusing matters like this.  When I saw that ad in the Miami
  Herald, I thought "*who* could explain this?" and a little voice in my head
  cried "Just Ask JaKe!  He'll know!!"

  in humble gratitude,
  hoping this helps,

  Kath
  The Meek & Modest
47.209PFSVAX::JACOBMon Jul 26 1993 23:1120
    
 >> & guidance in confusing matters like this.  When I saw that ad in the Miami
 >> Herald, I thought "*who* could explain this?" and a little voice in my head
    
    The Miami Herald???????????????????
    
    Are you sure this isn't just a fiendish plot by Dave Barry to foul up
    the haids of the readers, then address the answers on the TV show
    that'll be based on his columns????
    
    Makes me wonder
    
    BTW, if you're hearing little voices in your head, are you sure they're
    not saying "Send massive amounts of cash to JaKe"????  Sorta sounds
    like "Just Ask JaKe", ya know??   
    
    (8^)
    
    JaKe
    
47.210The research will continuePFSVAX::JACOBWed Jul 28 1993 20:2177
>>  Dear JaKe,

>>  Yesterday's paper had an ad for women's fashion undergarments designed to
>>  be worn underneath all that sheer clothing designers are foisting off on
>>  us these days.  The text said that these semi-sheer undies would provide
>>  both "interest" and modesty.

>>  They provided pictures.  Some of the items were labeled "semi-transparent".
>>  Some of them were labeled "semi-opaque". They all looked like two layers of
>>  Saran Wrap to me.

>>  What is the difference between "semi-transparent" and "semi-opaque"?  Not
>>  that I am planning to purchase either kind at the present time of course. 8^#

>>  modest & uninteresting near Miami,
>>  Kath

OK, after a couple of days of "research" I think I cain give ya an answer.

First of all, two layers of Saran Wrap would probably give ya more "hiding"
than this stuff does, at least the stuff I tried on...er..."researched" at 
the local "Lady Godiva" store.

Secondly, the difference between "semi-transparent" and "semi-opaque" is,
mostly, in the eye of the beholder, and the description offered by the
manufacturer, or the manufacturer's marketing rep.

Which brings me to why there are two descriptions fer the same thang.  It's
sorta like saying the glass is half empty, or half full.

As far as I cain tell, the term "semi-opaque" comes from a firm which employs a
female to write up the descriptions, while the firm that describes it's women's
undergarments as "semi-transparent" employs a male in said role.

Ya see, the term "semi-opaque" makes it sound like you can almost NOT see thru
the garment, while the term "semi-transparent" makes it sound like you can
almost SEE thru the garment.

Therefore, in terms of modesty, "semi-opaque" would appeal to a female who
would want to keep up with today's sheer fashions, but not give a "full window"
view of the merchandise, if'n ya know what I mean.  

"Semi-transparent" would appeal more to the guy buying that special someone a
garment, cause he would feel sure that if he strained hard enough, he'd be able
to get just enough of a look to satisfy his prurient interests, which men
strive for constantly, and get these dirty looks for all the time by the
offended party, who by the way, was the one who put on these clothes that are
either just revealing enough, or just NOT revealing enough, depending on the
views of the beholder, in the first place.  We neandertha...er...men are driven
by this animalistic impulse to always be on the lookout fer "glimpses" of the
opposite sex's forbidden fruit(not me, though, I'm happily married and don't do
this stuff anymore, but am compelled to report it), and try to do so as
nonchalantly as possible.  This is why "semi-transparent" appeals more to the
men, because it implies that we'll be able to see something through it.   It is
also why men's tongues get dirty and eyes pop out of their head, and when the
member of the opposite sex turns back toward them, or catches them looking,
they, and with no success, act like they weren't straining to see what they
were straining to see.

My next avenue of research in this matter is finding a well endowed waitress
from Hooter's...er...subject, yeah, that's the ticket, SUBJECT, to see if 
wearing a "semi-opaque" blouse over a "semi-opaque" bra = totally opaque or 
not. I mean, don't two halves make a whole, so wouldn't two "semi-opaques" make
an "opaque"????  I'll sell the pictures of this research to the highest bidder,
by the way.  Maybe --dan'l cain talk Pepper into volunteering fer this
important research project.

Schnorttt Schittt Schleppps

JaKe






47.211Classic!! HAHAHA, You don't disappoint JaKeCTHQ::LEARYMcSorley,McFilthy,McNastyWed Jul 28 1993 20:301
    
47.212Dave Barry, eat yer heart out...CTHQ::MCCULLOUGHLindsey and Melanie have a new house...Wed Jul 28 1993 20:360
47.213now that was original! good job ;-)FRETZ::HEISERchase the kangarooWed Jul 28 1993 21:341
    
47.214SKEWED::MCKAYThu Jul 29 1993 18:165
    Jake,
    	What's there to do in Greensboro, N.C.?  Heading down for Labor
    Day weekend.  
    
    Jimbo
47.215Greensboro a nice place to live; terrible place to visit.RHETT::KNORRCarolina BlueThu Jul 29 1993 19:1626
    Hate to step on JaKe's toes, but I used to live in Greensboro and I can
    tell you the short answer to your question:
    
    
    
    Absolutely Nothing!
    
    However if you don't mind driving :45 minutes or so I know a great
    little town called Chapel Hill.  Once there don't forget to visit:
    
    o Franklin Street.  This is college town, USA baby.
    o The Planetarium.  Gotta wet the educational pallette, and this is
      one of the better ones around.
    o Chapel Hill Bookstore.  A wave of BabyBlue will smack ya in the
      face as you walk thru the doors.  They've got Carolina Blue 
      *everything*.
    o The Dean Dome.  If ya can find it (not as easy as it might seem -
      this close to 25K arena is nestled near the Kenan Stadium (football)
      but can be difficult to find).  Go in, worship.  Bow, pay homage.
      View the trophies, the hanging banners, the pictures, the beautiful
      court.  Ah, gives me goose bumps just thinkin' bout it!
    
    HTH,
    
    
    - ACC Chris
47.216<sigh> My Hero!LCALOR::PETRIEthere _is_ crying in basketballThu Jul 29 1993 21:4114
  JaKe, that was <giggle> both beautiful and <guffaw> informative :^)  I am
  deeply edified, as are - judging by the admiring replies and the silence
  of those still awestruck into keyboard paralysis - the rest of the Inquiring
  Minds.

  btw, forget both Greensboro *and* Chapel Hill.  What you want is GreenVILLE,
  *N*C, home of Ventnor's Grill (great Southern cooking and true atmosphere),
  East Carolina University, former home of moi...and close to Wilson, where
  Parker's Barbecue is the ONLY barbecue worthy of the name in the entire
  United States.  And to objections I say :^b

  wondering if guys can see semi-opaque undies beneath opaque business clothes,
  Kath
47.217As Madonna would wear themPFSVAX::JACOBMy brain cell is lonelyThu Jul 29 1993 22:049
    
  >>wondering if guys can see semi-opaque undies beneath opaque business clothes,
    
    Nah, but we cain see opaque business clothes UNDER semi-opaque undies.
    
    GLad ya "liked" the answer
    
    JaKe
    
47.218FRETZ::HEISERprime moverFri Jul 30 1993 01:592
    Do both N.C. and S.C. have a Greenville?  Wasn't the DEC facility (that
    was sold) in Greenville, S.C.?
47.219CAM3::WAYThe thrill of the grass...Fri Jul 30 1993 13:4910
Yep, SC has a Greenville, and I can tell you that it's a lovely place.

The City used to be a client when I worked for a consulting firm prior to
coming to DEC.  

It's also the city where the great Shoeless Joe Jackson passed away in 
1951...


'Saw
47.220LACV01::PETRIElcalor:: hit by lightningFri Jul 30 1993 15:056
    >Do both N.C. and S.C. have a Greenville?
    
    Yes - South Carolina created one out of pure envy :^)
    
    objectively yours,
    Kath
47.221ACESMK::FRANCUSMets in '93Wed Aug 04 1993 01:576
    Bravo JaKe, a note worth coming back for.
    
    btw Mac, vacation is over; hehehe.
    
    The Crazy Met
    
47.222METSNY::francusMets in '93Tue Aug 17 1993 17:5116
JaKe,

from note 21.849

> He's married wif a boatload of kids.  

> ACC Chris

My question is what is the difference between a boatload of kids
and a truckload of kids??

Inquiring minds and all that ..

The Crazy Met


47.223LAGUNA::MAY_BRsquished tomatoesTue Aug 17 1993 17:524
    and what is a noatload?
    
    brews, who caught TCM editing notes.  8^)
    
47.224METSNY::francusMets in '93Tue Aug 17 1993 17:553
a misspelling of boatload. Brews, you sneaky thing :-)

The Crazy Met
47.225I caught that tooMKFSB::LONGAll gave some, some gave allTue Aug 17 1993 18:037
>>    and what is a noatload?


	could it be a boat full of people with speech impediments?


	billl
47.226ROYALT::ASHEHey... what's going on?Wed Aug 25 1993 20:386
    First song from the "Free Willy" soundtrack is "Will you be there" by
    Michael Jackson.  The soundtrack is on his record label.  
    
    Based on the latest charges against him, is there more to the "Free
    Willy" soundtrack then we know about?
    
47.227PFSVAX::JACOBFollically Disadvantaged!!Wed Aug 25 1993 20:4316
    
>>    First song from the "Free Willy" soundtrack is "Will you be there" by
>>    Michael Jackson.  The soundtrack is on his record label.  
    
>>    Based on the latest charges against him, is there more to the "Free
>>    Willy" soundtrack then we know about?
    
    Wail, MJ used to take that monkey everywhere with him.  then he met
    "Willy".  MJ instantly became Willy's love slave.  the only problem fer
    MJ was that he couldn't take Willy with him on tour, at least not very
    easily, so he wonders if the whale will "wait fer him."
    
    Schnorttt Schittt Schleppps
    
    JaKe
    
47.228ROYALT::ASHEHey... what's going on?Thu Aug 26 1993 03:052
    How does this relate to the investigation going on now?
    
47.229PFSVAX::JACOBFollically Disadvantaged!!Thu Aug 26 1993 04:1710
    
    >>      <<< Note 47.228 by ROYALT::ASHE "Hey... what's going on?" >>>
    
    >>How does this relate to the investigation going on now?
    
    I dunno, but people who were close to Michael Jackson when he found out
    his place had been raided said he was blubbering pretty bad.
    
    JaKe
    
47.230Somethin' happening here...CAM3::WAYThe reducto absurdum of human experienceThu Aug 26 1993 13:5729
Okay, 

A couple of weeks ago, I got some kind of advertising in the mail that
included this neat pair of cardboard "eye-glasses" with red lenses.

Now, at first I thought they were those glasses you wear to see people
naked, you know, and I got all excited.  I waited for one of the
secretaries to come by, but instead this gravitational anomaly came by
and fortunately I found out that they don't work that way....

So, I've been wearing these things for a couple of weeks now, and strange
things are happening.

I keep hearing Jimi Hendrix in my head, or Steppenwolf.  I have this
urge to dress in tie-dyed clothing, and the other night I found myself
humming "Give Peace A Chance".

Yesterday, I stopped into a Post-Office to pick up a selective service
card to burn it.

And then I called AAA to find the best route to Max Yazgur's farm.....


Jake, what is happening to me?  Could these be Magic Glasses?

They make everything groovy.....


'Saw
47.231ROYALT::ASHEHey... what's going on?Thu Aug 26 1993 17:331
    You hear Jimi, but do you listen to Jimi?
47.232CTHQ::LEARYCorporate Telecom Technology SolutionsThu Aug 26 1993 17:398
    Why 'Saw keep them glasses and git ready fer mah combination
    25th Woodstock anniversary/ND football preseason BBque nexted August.
    
    All brown acid to be left at the door
    
    
    MikeL
    
47.233Take another little piece of my heart now, babyCAM3::WAYWild Thing, I think I love youThu Aug 26 1993 17:4731
re Jimi:

	Man, I hear Jimi, I listen to Jimi, hell, I had him over to
	the house for dinner last night.   He says that he and Stevie
	Ray are working on a dynamite new album.  Otis Redding and
	Janis Joplin are going to do the vocals.

	Jim Morrison got all pissed off at that, and decided to write
	a novel instead of doing music for a while.

	Jimi told me that the boys from Lynyrd Skynyrd are writing some
	new stuff too.

	Oh yeah, and Jim Croce just put out a new book of poetry.


>
>    Why 'Saw keep them glasses and git ready fer mah combination
>    25th Woodstock anniversary/ND football preseason BBque nexted August.
>    
>    All brown acid to be left at the door
    

I'll be there, dude.  Just give me the call.  I'll come riding in 
like Dennis Hopper in 'Easy Rider'....   Let me know if you need any
good music for the occasion.....


'Saw
    

47.234PFSVAX::JACOBFollically Disadvantaged!!Thu Aug 26 1993 22:4814
    Never heerd of these kinds of glasses.  What kind of promotion did they
    come in?????
                     
    Have they told ya if Elvis is really up there, or if not, what Burger
    King he's working at this week???
    
    And brand name on these contraptions????
    
    Need more info to decipher it fer ya.
    
    Or is ya just seeing the world thru rose colored glasses????
    
    JaKe
    
47.235CAM3::WAYWild Thing, I think I love youFri Aug 27 1993 13:1712
>    Never heerd of these kinds of glasses.  What kind of promotion did they
>    come in?????

I dunno.  They look like those 3-D glasses...
                     
>    Have they told ya if Elvis is really up there, or if not, what Burger
>    King he's working at this week???

Not yet.
    
'Saw    

47.236PFSVAX::JACOBFollically Disadvantaged!!Fri Aug 27 1993 19:5111
    
>>I dunno.  They look like those 3-D glasses...
    
    Wail, did they include ANY kind of 'splaination in with them when they
    sent them to ya?????
    
    Lemme borrow them fer a few days and I'll be able to figger them out
    better.
    
    JaKe
    
47.237I *NEED* my glasses....CAMONE::WAYWild Thing, I think I love youFri Aug 27 1993 19:5818
|>>I dunno.  They look like those 3-D glasses...
|    
|    Wail, did they include ANY kind of 'splaination in with them when they
|    sent them to ya?????

Nope.  But the guy that gave them to me I'd only have to do him one
little favor.  I have to go put mud all over some ladies washing....

    
>    Lemme borrow them fer a few days and I'll be able to figger them out
>    better.

Get yer own glasses....8^)


'Saw
    

47.238PFSVAX::JACOBFollically Disadvantaged!!Fri Aug 27 1993 20:0613
    
>>Nope.  But the guy that gave them to me I'd only have to do him one
>>little favor.  I have to go put mud all over some ladies washing....
    
    You been to a Stephen King movie recently, or read a Stephen King book
    recently and having a little trouble seperating reality from
    fantasy?????
    
    Sound good to me.  And did the guy look suspiciously like Max Van
    something er other???
    
    JaKe
    
47.239CAMONE::WAYWild Thing, I think I love youFri Aug 27 1993 20:1617
|>>Nope.  But the guy that gave them to me I'd only have to do him one
|>>little favor.  I have to go put mud all over some ladies washing....
|    
|    You been to a Stephen King movie recently, or read a Stephen King book
|    recently and having a little trouble seperating reality from
|    fantasy?????

I've got my glasses, that's all I need...

    
>    Sound good to me.  And did the guy look suspiciously like Max Van
>    something er other???

Why yes, yes he did....
    
'Saw    

47.240PFSVAX::JACOBFollically Disadvantaged!!Fri Aug 27 1993 20:2714
    
>>I've got my glasses, that's all I need...
    
    Now don't get teste with me, dammit!!
    
>>Why yes, yes he did....
    
>>'Saw    
    
    Uh-Oh, holocaust in Connecticut this weekend, bank on it.
    
    JaKe
    
    
47.241CAMONE::WAYWild Thing, I think I love youFri Aug 27 1993 20:3825
>    
>    Now don't get teste with me, dammit!!
>    

Geez, you sound like Big Pete when he was doing leg presses last night.

He was complaining about the positioning of his boys, and he said
he thought he lost one.  I told him that unless it flew out and bounced
off the mirror to stop complaining, and keep pressing.

He told me not to get teste with him.....


|>>Why yes, yes he did....
|>>'Saw    
|    
|    Uh-Oh, holocaust in Connecticut this weekend, bank on it.
    
Nah, it'll be a while yet.  We've got to get the pyscho lady who lives
down the street all riled up.....


'Saw    
    

47.242De Profundis.....CAM3::WAYGame called....Tue Aug 31 1993 16:2131
Dear Jake,

I need your help.

I have this problem.


You see, I find 'Beavis and Butt-head' to be extremely funny, in that
somewhat sick, warped way that guys get off on scatological references,
and picking their nose.

I mean, it's so bad that even Butt-head's laugh "huh-huh, huh-huh-huh"
makes me sit there and go to pieces.

And that scene where Beavis cuts the grasshopper in half with the chainsaw
and gets Butt-head's finger in the process, then stands there, the
consumate Judas Priest fan, revving the saw and chanting "Breakin' the
Law, Breakin' the Law", that scene makes me laugh uncontrollably.


I know this probably means I'm sick, depraved, warped, and otherwise
unstable, but in my own defense I can say that I haven't gotten off
on running toads over with the lawnmower in a long time.   


Jake, what can I do to get my life back to normal?   I mean, I'm getting
the urge to burn ants with a magnifying glass, just writing this.....


'Saw

47.243the cureFRETZ::HEISERdon't whiz on the electric fenceTue Aug 31 1993 16:431
    Go home and tear the wings off of every fly in your house.
47.244PFSVAX::JACOBAnother day in the VolcanoTue Aug 31 1993 19:4210
    The best way is to take a walk in the woods, collect a few hundred 
    Daddy-Long-Leg spiders, take them home to your kitchen, pull the legs
    off and watch them twitch around on the table fer a while, then bake
    the torso's into some cookies and give them to the neighborhood brats
    and chuckle whilst they eat them.
    
    Schnorttt Schittt Schleppps
    
    JaKe
    
47.245I had to say it!SWAM2::MASSEY_VII like FrankiesFurter best.Tue Aug 31 1993 22:266
    
    
    
    	Nuttin that a good jar of vasiline can't cure.
    
    
47.246QUASER::JACKSONTAReal mans sport is starting!Tue Aug 31 1993 23:486
      re-1
     
      'Saw,  I don't think your the one thats deprived.  This person needs
    help and "fast" in a "slow" way;^))
    
      Tim
47.247The Doctor is IN.....CAM3::WAYThe Jerky Boys rool!Wed Sep 01 1993 13:1225
>      'Saw,  I don't think your the one thats deprived.  This person needs
>    help and "fast" in a "slow" way;^))
    

I've been noticing this too.  

And you know, the 'Saw is one of those folks that just tends to be
mighty helpful.   But don't get me wrong.  I don't just stop to help women
with flat tires and stuff -- I helped a guy get a washing machine back
onto a trailer one time at the side of the road.  (The question was, though,
how did the washing machine fall OFF the trailer at full speed, and
stay 'right-side up'?)   I'm very helpful, in all the ways any situation
demands.

Maybe instead of sawing grasshoppers in half with chainsaws I should
think about some way to help poor Gin out of her "predicament"....

(But that thing about her just not having an eye, but an empty socket is
kind of scary, you know.....)


I'm gonna cogitate on this one for a while.......

'Saw

47.248get creative with it! ;^)CSTEAM::FARLEYCarol's gonna wear maternity clothes!Wed Sep 01 1993 13:187
    
    Yabbut a eye socket iz just another (pseudo) oriface don cha know!
    
    I remain,
    imagining the possibilities!
    Kev
    
47.249CAM3::WAYThe Jerky Boys rool!Wed Sep 01 1993 13:298
Personally, I'd much rather see a glass eye there, even if the dang thing
is pointed in the wrong direction.....

(You probably never saw a person with their eyeball hanging out....NOT a
pretty sight....  I've never gotten over that, quite honestly)


'Saw
47.250Could let this slipQUASER::JACKSONTAReal mans sport is starting!Wed Sep 01 1993 15:063
      Gives a new meaning to "in your eye"....
    
      Tim
47.251SWAM2::MASSEY_VII like FrankiesFurter best.Wed Sep 01 1993 15:437
    I need help?  Since when did I need help?  What did I miss?  What
    should I have missed?
    
    I do have an eye and it's not glass either.  It works just fine, thank
    you.
    
    Gin
47.252CAM3::WAYThe Jerky Boys rool!Wed Sep 01 1993 15:4511
>    I do have an eye and it's not glass either.  It works just fine, thank
>    you.
    
Well, I know you have one, but you said you lost one, so the one you say
you have that's not glass could be the one you didn't lose to begin with,
and it's always worked just fine.

What about the other one??????


'saw
47.253QUASER::JACKSONTAReal mans sport is starting!Wed Sep 01 1993 16:029
      Ok,  maybe help isn't the correct way of putting it. Um, let me see,
    um gratification? Satisfaction?
    
      Relief?  Thats it! Relief!
    
      Now this is based on the "type" of insinuated (my interpretation)
    notes that you enter Gin...Then again I may need some relief;^)
    
      Tim
47.254R O L A I D S CSTEAM::FARLEYCarol's gonna wear maternity clothes!Wed Sep 01 1993 16:081
    
47.255CAPNET::LEFEBVREPCBU Product ManagementWed Sep 01 1993 16:195
    Dear Jake,
    
    Is $MAIL broke?
    
    Mark.
47.256SALEM::DODAGrip it, zip it and go find itWed Sep 01 1993 17:329
Saw,

Git yerself over to VH1 for a healthy dose of da one da only 

Tom Jones.

Then you'll realized what the true meaning on demented is.

daryll
47.257Think I wanna dance now...ROYALT::ASHEHey... what's going on?Wed Sep 01 1993 18:182
    It's not unusual to be in love with anyone...
    
47.258Doesn't that Tom Jones guy own the Cowboys?VAXMKT::ROBICHAUDReady Steady Go!Wed Sep 01 1993 18:271
    
47.259ROYALT::ASHEHey... what's going on?Wed Sep 01 1993 18:393
    Now it's that country and western singer... Bill knows who I mean...
    he owns the Cowboys right?  Tom Jones was in "The Fugitive".
    
47.261SALEM::DODAGrip it, zip it and go find itWed Sep 01 1993 18:524
Nope, he's the one dats always chasin dat mouse in the 
cartoons....

d
47.262PATE::MACNEALruck `n' rollWed Sep 01 1993 20:445
    Jake,
    
    If a guy goes out and gets an earring and a crewcut and starts watching
    Beevis & Butthead every chance he gets is he just going through a
    midlife crisis or having a true mental collapse?
47.263huh-huh, he said Butt....CAM3::WAYThe Jerky Boys rool!Wed Sep 01 1993 20:4716
>    
>    If a guy goes out and gets an earring and a crewcut and starts watching
>    Beevis & Butthead every chance he gets is he just going through a
>    midlife crisis or having a true mental collapse?


actually, my buddy Big John and I were talking about this today.

I haven't reached mid-life yet.  John and I figure we're probably stuck
at around 15 most of the time.  Now if I could just convince my ankles
and knee of that fact.....8^)

huh-huh, huh-huh-huh....that's cool!

'Saw

47.264and he could be jivin you too...ROYALT::ASHEHey... what's going on?Wed Sep 01 1993 20:564
> actually, my buddy Big John and I were talking about this today.
  
    
      Is this like Big Johnson?  You talk to it? Ohhhhhh Chainsawwww....
47.265ROYALT::ASHEHey... what's going on?Thu Sep 02 1993 14:354
    Tonight is the non-DEC fantasy football draft.  I need a new team
    nickname.  The past few seasons, it's been the Asheh0!e$, but I'm
    tired of that one... any new and creative ideas?  I liked the Waco
    Fire, but that too much time has past for that one... 
47.266CAMONE::WAYThe Jerky Boys rool!Thu Sep 02 1993 15:099
>    Tonight is the non-DEC fantasy football draft.  I need a new team
>    nickname.  The past few seasons, it's been the Asheh0!e$, but I'm
>    tired of that one... any new and creative ideas?  I liked the Waco
>    Fire, but that too much time has past for that one... 

How 'bout the Helmets.   Or even Helmet.  As in "Walt's Helmet"

'Saw

47.267PTOVAX::JACOBAnother day in the VolcanoThu Sep 02 1993 15:1910
    
>>How 'bout the Helmets.   Or even Helmet.  As in "Walt's Helmet"

>>'Saw
    
    Or Walt's Turtlenecks.  It all depends on how Walt's parents had his
    Johnson treated in that firsted week after birth.
    
    JaKe
    
47.268CAMONE::WAYThe Jerky Boys rool!Thu Sep 02 1993 15:2212
>    Or Walt's Turtlenecks.  It all depends on how Walt's parents had his
>    Johnson treated in that firsted week after birth.
    
This is true.

    
How bout just calling your team "Sterculius".   If anyone wants to
know who he was, just ask me in mail.....


'Saw

47.269some ideasMKFSB::LONGAll gave some, some gave allThu Sep 02 1993 15:339
	How about...Ashe-tray(or -tres) or simply The Butts.

	then there's always the Phoenix Phlash-In-The-Pans or Chapel Hill Chokers.

	(sorry Mike and Chris, just trying to keep it ::SPROTS related)



	billl
47.270Walter EgosCAPNET::LEFEBVREPCBU Product ManagementThu Sep 02 1993 16:342
    
    
47.271MSBCS::BRYDIEI need somebody to shove!Thu Sep 02 1993 16:392
 What about the "Walter PPKs"? PPK as in punters, passers and kickers.
47.272LeggomyJohnson...SWAM2::MASSEY_VII like FrankiesFurter best.Thu Sep 02 1993 16:391
    
47.273ROYALT::ASHEHey... what's going on?Thu Sep 02 1993 16:399
    Walter Egos?  Eh, that ain't bad, even for you Markey...
    
    Maybe the Walter gnats....
    
    I don't smoke, so I don't like Ashe-trays... besides, I'm not sure
    if I can get Marion Butts on the team.
    
    Doesn't have to be name related... right now, Tent Pitchers is up
    there too...
47.274CAM3::WAYThe Jerky Boys rool!Thu Sep 02 1993 16:4314
>                             -< LeggomyJohnson... >-

Why would Walter be holding my Johnson?


Walter PPKs is good.

Tent Pitchers sounds like something from Beavis and Butt-head, so Gin
won't like it....


'Saw
    

47.275VAXMKT::ROBICHAUDReady Steady Go!Thu Sep 02 1993 16:443
    	How 'bout AsheWipes?
    
    		/Don_for_'Saw_for_Butt-Head
47.276ROYALT::ASHEHey... what's going on?Thu Sep 02 1993 16:448
    I hope none of these guys have reason to hold onto my Johnson.
    
    PPK's... need receivers and tight ends (so to speak) for the team
    too...
    
    Like I said, I liked the Waco Fire around the BD stakeout time, but
    that's old news.  No interest is the "Free Willies".  Heidi Fleiss
    is too ugly to think about something like "Fleiss' Flossers".
47.277CAM3::WAYThe Jerky Boys rool!Thu Sep 02 1993 16:459
Fleiss is SPENT.

I wouldn't do her with Jake's penicular appendage.


How 'bout the ButtBuffers?   Oh wait, you said it's non-DEC...  Sorry.


'Saw
47.278ROYALT::ASHEHey... what's going on?Thu Sep 02 1993 16:455
    I have the Wipers already in another league... so this one was the
    'Holes...
    
    I could always do the kickers or kissers I suppose...
    
47.280SpoogeMasters (tm) rool!CAPNET::LEFEBVREPCBU Product ManagementThu Sep 02 1993 17:032
    
    
47.281How's Melendez doing? Plantier doing anything?ROYALT::ASHEHey... what's going on?Thu Sep 02 1993 17:062
    No way, I ain't hiring Lou Gorman Steinbrenner or whatever his name
    was...
47.282SteinGormanCAPNET::LEFEBVREPCBU Product ManagementThu Sep 02 1993 18:012
    
    
47.283CAMONE::WAYThe Jerky Boys rool!Thu Sep 02 1993 18:1215
>                                -< SteinGorman >-


Sounds like something out of a German horror movies...


	Das Nacht die Aliveinschuman SteinGormann


Ja....


    
    

47.284I vote for Walt's little princesses...DECWET::METZGERCome and play, everything's A OK.Thu Sep 02 1993 18:2824
What I always do is pick a level of disgustingness to go with the ability of my
team...

Last year They were the festering wounds and finished 3rd from the bottom. This
year they are rename the puss filled sores because I don't expect to finish any
higher than last season...

For topical news instead of the Waco fire you could use..

 Zoey Bairds
 Clinton Budgets
 economic sanctions
 boznian targets
 Seles stabbers
 kidnapped cleaners
 military cutbacks
 homosexual soldiers (not that there's anything wrong with that)...
 tailhook scandals
 porno marines
 magic johnsons
 gambling jordans
 
Metz
47.285TightEndMenSWAM2::MASSEY_VII like FrankiesFurter best.Thu Sep 02 1993 18:551
    
47.286Nah, that sips too...SALEM::DODAGrip it, zip it and go find itThu Sep 02 1993 19:203
How about Festering Sores?


47.287ROYALT::ASHEHey... what's going on?Thu Sep 02 1993 20:533
    Metz - you mean Walt's scalp massagers?
    
    I like Seles Stabbers... I also like the Bungie dumpers...
47.288LAGUNA::MAY_BRMEts in (last in) 94Fri Sep 03 1993 15:255
    
    How about The Walt theHells?
    
    
    brews
47.289ROYALT::ASHEHey... what's going on?Fri Sep 03 1993 15:295
    Dang it Brews, why couldn't you come up with that yesterday?  That
    would have worked.... I'll have to remember that one...
    
    How's the neighbah?  Does she have all these varmits in her backyard?
    
47.290LAGUNA::MAY_BRMEts in (last in) 94Fri Sep 03 1993 17:047
    
    Soory I wasn't in here yesterday.  Cain't talk about the neighbor,
    people in here (and da wifey) gets mad.  But her part of the
    neighborhood is good rattlesnake hunting territory, if'n ya know what I
    mean.
    
    brews
47.291CAM3::WAYMatty told Hatty bout a thing she sawFri Sep 03 1993 17:2810
>    Soory I wasn't in here yesterday.  Cain't talk about the neighbor,
>    people in here (and da wifey) gets mad.  But her part of the
>    neighborhood is good rattlesnake hunting territory, if'n ya know what I
>    mean.
    
Well, if you gots a few good neighbor stories, don't hesitate to
send them along in VAXmail.....


'Saw
47.292CAM3::WAYMatty told Hatty bout a thing she sawFri Sep 03 1993 18:0723
I've got a big problem.


Lately, there's been this hot girl working out in the gym with us.  I don't
know her name, but I do know she's pretty serious about lifting.  She's
not gross, like some women bodybuilders, but she's got some awfully nice
curves.  She works out with us, in the free weight section, she's very
quiet, hardly ever talks except to ask if you've got many more sets, and
she's okay....

Now, don't get me wrong, I certainly don't mind standing there, watching
her lift, squat, do flys, whatever.  I really don't mind that at all.

However, it's the other guys.  They stand there and watch, and they're
very polite about it.  BUT, they drool.

Now, I'm not averse to wiping my own sweat off a bench or whatever, but
I'm getting kind of tired of having to wipe their drool off.   


What should I do?????

'Saw
47.293PATE::MACNEALruck `n' rollFri Sep 03 1993 18:093
47.294MSBCS::BRYDIEI need somebody to shove!Fri Sep 03 1993 18:113
  >> I've got a big problem.

     You're just now realizing this?
47.295ROYALT::ASHEHey... what's going on?Fri Sep 03 1993 18:122
    Ask her if it bugs her.  If not, don't sweat it... (pun intended)
    
47.296CAM3::WAYMatty told Hatty bout a thing she sawFri Sep 03 1993 18:1713
>
>    Ask her if it bugs her.  If not, don't sweat it... (pun intended)
>    


It bugs me.  I don't want other folks drool on my towel.....


As for you other guys questioning my problem, I'll quote my friend
ACC Chris --- Aw Shaddap!   8^)


'Saw
47.297You need a new gymCSC32::GAULKEFri Sep 03 1993 18:2314
    
    >>However, it's the other guys.  They stand there and watch, and
    >>they're very polite about it.  BUT, they drool.
    
    
      'Saw, stand up, take a deep breath, and tell 'em to 
    
      
     
    
    
    Watch the girl!!
    
    
47.298FRETZ::HEISERnotes from a lost civilizationFri Sep 03 1993 18:234
    if you're not watching, how do you know they are too? ;-)
    
    tell her about your weights setup at home and ask her if she'd be more
    comfortable working out there.
47.299CAM3::WAYMatty told Hatty bout a thing she sawFri Sep 03 1993 18:2415
>    if you're not watching, how do you know they are too?


No,  I AM watching. I'm watching and taking notes, and thinking of bringing
a video camera, even.

Yes, I'm watching, and I know they are too because I can see them in the
mirror, and I see the drool escaping their lips, trailing downward, landing
on anything in sight....

I'm having a problem with THEIR DROOL, not with her, uh, um, form.....


'Saw

47.300MSBCS::BRYDIEI need somebody to shove!Fri Sep 03 1993 18:256
  These guys actually physically drool? How the hell do they manage to
 lift weights without opposable thumbs? When I'm at the gym and some-
 one leaves moisture on a piece of equipment, that I want to use, I just
 point it out to them, politely. Most people have enough courtesy to wipe
 it off.
47.301CAM3::WAYThe Last in LineFri Sep 03 1993 18:2611
>    
>    tell her about your weights setup at home and ask her if she'd be more
>    comfortable working out there.

I don't have a weight set up at home.  I could probably buy one though....



'Saw


47.302just like a C&W concertFRETZ::HEISERnotes from a lost civilizationFri Sep 03 1993 18:284
    well you better hurry up and get one so you can use that line!
    
    do they drool out of both corners of their mouths at the same time?  If
    not, better tell the management the floor needs leveling.
47.303CAM3::WAYThe Last in LineFri Sep 03 1993 18:2821
>  These guys actually physically drool? How the hell do they manage to
> lift weights without opposable thumbs? When I'm at the gym and some-
> one leaves moisture on a piece of equipment, that I want to use, I just
> point it out to them, politely. Most people have enough courtesy to wipe
> it off.


It's kind of a trance like state that they get into, almost close to
a catatonic thing -- like some of those episodes in Star Trek where time
kind of stops for most of the folks.  I don't think they are aware of
it....


I think I'm just gonna go up to one of them next time and say "Hey jerky,
wipe that off".....


'Saw



47.304Ask her out?RHETT::KNORRCarolina BlueFri Sep 03 1993 18:331
    
47.305DECWET::METZGERCome and play, everything's A OK.Fri Sep 03 1993 18:3411
Bring  bunch of dixie cups in next time and hand them out to everybody. When
they ask what they're for tell them they're drool cups to catch what's been
flowing out of their mouths lately...

Personally I'd tell these guys to stop being such neanderthals and to move into
the '90s...

Then I'd run...

Metz
47.306CAM3::WAYThe Last in LineFri Sep 03 1993 18:3512
>Personally I'd tell these guys to stop being such neanderthals and to move into
>the '90s...
>
>Then I'd run...

Nah, they'd never turn on me like that.   

They'd just wait till I was in the middle of a wicked set of deadlifts
or something and pants me.....8^)


'Saw
47.307PATE::MACNEALruck `n' rollFri Sep 03 1993 18:375
47.308CAM3::WAYThe Last in LineFri Sep 03 1993 18:4010
>    
>    Noone's questioning your problem.  We're all quite certain you have
>    one.

Well, okay, I have a problem.  

That doesn't make me a bad person.


Does it?
47.309FRETZ::HEISERnotes from a lost civilizationFri Sep 03 1993 18:412
    maybe you can set up a plan.   Does she watch you workout?  If so, have
    your friends pants you anyway.
47.310physical malady maybe?????CSTEAM::FARLEYCarol's gonna wear maternity clothes!Fri Sep 03 1993 18:4211
    
    Yabbut maybe they have a medical problem?  I remember when I had to
    force-feel my cat a worm pill, the directions said that if the dumb
    feline bit into the pill, it would cause uncontrolled drooling.
    
    I made sure I shoved those suckers wayyyy down the dumb cat's gullet.
    It did not make the cat a happy camper either....
    
    I remain,
    Kev_the_vet
    
47.311humf!SWAM2::MASSEY_VII like FrankiesFurter best.Fri Sep 03 1993 18:4210
    I am so disappointed in you guys!
    
    
    
    		NO ONE ASKED WHAT GYM THIS IS HAPPENING AT?
    
    ps  Anyone want some free airline tickets?
    
    
    Gin
47.312CAM3::WAYThe Last in LineFri Sep 03 1993 18:4317
>    maybe you can set up a plan.   Does she watch you workout?  If so, have
>    your friends pants you anyway.


Actually, she's pretty intense in her workout.  And quite honestly, there's
other guys there that'd be more interesting to watch than me.


I guess it's just kind of new to the guys still.  I mean, before this
girl showed up, they used to have to watch the aerobics classes to get
their jollies.

Me?  I'm just there to workout....


'Saw

47.313ethicsFRETZ::HEISERnotes from a lost civilizationFri Sep 03 1993 18:454
>    		NO ONE ASKED WHAT GYM THIS IS HAPPENING AT?
    
    because 'Saw saw her first.  It's part of a code of honor among mainly
    friends.
47.314CAM3::WAYThe Last in LineFri Sep 03 1993 18:4832
>>    		NO ONE ASKED WHAT GYM THIS IS HAPPENING AT?
>    
>    because 'Saw saw her first.  It's part of a code of honor among mainly
>    friends.

Oh, I have no claim, nor do I want one.


My big problem was the other guys drool was spoiling my workout.


See, when I work out, it's like I'm in a temple.  There's my body, (which
is still looking bad naked) and there's the weights.  And then there's
the Saints of Pump and Burn.   

So, if I'm in the Temple, I might notice her, but I'm not going to drool
and lose my opposable thumbs.



In fact, I seriously doubt ANY WOMAN could break my concentration when
I'm in the gym.  I'm not built like Arnold, but I'm serious like him....


But I just kind of detest sitting in someone else's drool.


I guess I'll take Tommy's suggestion and politely ask them to wipe up
their drool.....


'Saw
47.315I'd take them to the Vet for a_exam ;^)CSTEAM::FARLEYCarol's gonna wear maternity clothes!Fri Sep 03 1993 18:491
    
47.316FRETZ::HEISERnotes from a lost civilizationFri Sep 03 1993 18:504
>See, when I work out, it's like I'm in a temple.  There's my body, (which
>is still looking bad naked) and there's the weights.  And then there's
    
    did you hear Letterman describe his to Demi the other night?
47.317CAM3::WAYThe Last in LineFri Sep 03 1993 18:5010
|>See, when I work out, it's like I'm in a temple.  There's my body, (which
|>is still looking bad naked) and there's the weights.  And then there's
|    
|    did you hear Letterman describe his to Demi the other night?

No, I didn't....


'Saw

47.318ROYALT::ASHEHey... what's going on?Fri Sep 03 1993 18:526
    Sounds good...
    
    
    Free tickets?  Depends on where it's too and what the sights are when
    I get there...
    
47.319How to win friends and solve your problemTNPUBS::NAZZAROReggie Lewis - R.I.P.Fri Sep 03 1993 19:3615
    'Saw - here's what you do.
    
    1) Go to Woolworth's.
    
    2) Find the housdehold goods department.
    
    3) Purchase a set (they come in four or eight) of solid plastic
    drool cups.  The good ones come wif the adjustable strap so's you
    kin wear it around your neck while you work out - you don't hafta
    attach it to your collar like the older models.
    
    4) Should only put you out about 7-8 dollars, and think of all the
    friends you'll make when you pass 'em out at the gym.
    
    NAZZ
47.320CAM3::WAYThe Last in LineFri Sep 03 1993 19:394
Nazz, that's a pretty good idea.  I think I'll try that.....


'Saw
47.321PFSVAX::JACOBAnother day in the VolcanoFri Sep 03 1993 20:0013
    Saw
    
    Do these guys knuckles steel drag on the ground when they walk, too???
    
    Maybe you should hang out at a gym where the average brain capacity
    surpasses that of a grape.  And, ask any of them if their mommies ever
    told them it's not polite to leave their mouths open when gawking, and
    if they ever developed the reflex of swallowing their own spit.
    
    Sheez, any of them owned by a guy named Pavlov?????
    
    JaKe
    
47.322CAM3::WAYThe Last in LineFri Sep 03 1993 20:0417
>    Do these guys knuckles steel drag on the ground when they walk, too???

Nah, they have short arms.
    
>    Maybe you should hang out at a gym where the average brain capacity
>    surpasses that of a grape.  

I wear bike shorts, so that I don't hang out.


>    Sheez, any of them owned by a guy named Pavlov?????
    
Nah, he died.....


'Saw    

47.323PFSVAX::JACOBAnother day in the VolcanoFri Sep 03 1993 20:3218
    
>>Nah, they have short arms.
    
    Surgically shortened, I presume, seeing as their drooling is still
    at a level of about 45,000 years ago.  Better watch in case one of
    these ogres brings in a club and decides to take her back to his cave.
    
>>I wear bike shorts, so that I don't hang out.
    
    By what I've heard, you could cut them off at the waist and not "hang
    out".  What was it the doc told yer parents after circumsizing ya, "If
    he'd gone any further, he'd just have left a scab on yer ass!"
    
    Many (8^)'s
    
    JaKe
    
    
47.324CAM3::WAYThe Last in LineFri Sep 03 1993 20:3612
>>>I wear bike shorts, so that I don't hang out.
>    
>    By what I've heard, you could cut them off at the waist and not "hang
>    out".  What was it the doc told yer parents after circumsizing ya, "If
>    he'd gone any further, he'd just have left a scab on yer ass!"
    
That's becuase it's so long it looks like my leg.....8^P


    
    

47.325FRETZ::HEISERnotes from a lost civilizationFri Sep 03 1993 21:012
    If Hawk was here, he'd tell ya to just use the duct tape that you
    ruggers tape your ears back with.
47.326CAM3::WAYThe Last in LineFri Sep 03 1993 21:078
>    If Hawk was here, he'd tell ya to just use the duct tape that you
>    ruggers tape your ears back with.

I miss Hawk.....  I really do......


'Saw

47.327FRETZ::HEISERnotes from a lost civilizationFri Sep 03 1993 21:115
    BTW - I was talking about the droolers deserving the duct tape.
    
>That's becuase it's so long it looks like my leg.....8^P
    
    maybe we should start calling you "Tripod"
47.328PATE::MACNEALruck `n' rollTue Sep 07 1993 13:282
    We don't use duct tape.  It's too wide and sticky.  We use electrical
    tape.
47.329You asked for it, now deal with it !QUASER::HUNTERIsn't That Right, AlTue Sep 07 1993 16:358
    
     Jake,
    
     Heres a toughy !!
    
    
    When are the Pitsburgh fans going to be rewarded for their unwaivering
    support of their lowly footbal team.  15 + years is a long time ago
47.330PATE::MACNEALruck `n' rollTue Sep 07 1993 16:494
47.331LAGUNA::MAY_BRMEts in (last in) 94Tue Sep 07 1993 16:5910
     <<< Note 47.310 by CSTEAM::FARLEY "Carol's gonna wear maternity
    
    
  >  I remember when I had to force-feel my cat, 
    
    Kev, what you do on your own time is your business, but I don't think
    S&M mixed with beastiality is a topic for a family notes conference. 
    
    
    Tipper brews, Pres. of Concerned Parents for Family Noting
47.332pay me.SWAM2::MASSEY_VII like FrankiesFurter best.Tue Sep 07 1993 19:078
    I like duct tape better than electrical tape.  You can tear duct tape
    to any width you need.  You jussss cain't do that with that 'letricle
    tape.
    
    But what do I know?
    
    
    Gin
47.333CAM3::WAYHers for the taking....Tue Sep 07 1993 19:4131
>    I like duct tape better than electrical tape.  You can tear duct tape
>    to any width you need.  You jussss cain't do that with that 'letricle
>    tape.
    
Electrical tape has just the right amount of "stick" to use to tape
back your ears.  It's also black, which is a manly color which looks good
when you play rugby.

I do know guys who use white athletic tape, but electrical tape looks
better.


The only known use of duct tape that I've ever heard of in rugby is
a college kid who had a busted foot.  He put his boot on, taped his
laces with athletic tape (a common practice, since the ref won't give
you a minute to tie your boots) and then wrapped his entire foot
and ankle with duct tape.

I guess he almost lost his foot since he cut the circulation off, it
was so tight.....



> But what do I know?

How to properly apply a stallion ring?


'Saw


47.334CAM3::WAYHers for the taking....Tue Sep 07 1993 19:4722
Jake,

I have a problem.


I wore a tie to work today, well, actually, I wore a tie to the funeral
this morning, and then came into work with it on.   Now everyone is making
fun of me.

Everyone always says that if you wear a tie you're being professional,
and it engenders respect.   I'm wearing a tie and no one respects me.


I'm thinking of quitting, and going and taking the firefighters test, and
working with real people who know the value of wearing a t-shirt and
workpants to work, instead of an outdated, out-moded bib....


Sign me, 
Fit to be tied......

'Saw
47.335LAGUNA::MAY_BRMEts in (last in) 94Wed Sep 08 1993 16:296
    
    Saw,
    
    Didn't you say yesterday that only dorks wear ties?  
    
    Brews, who usually wears one, but not today.
47.336With the exception of two cases....CAM3::WAYHers for the taking....Wed Sep 08 1993 17:0326
>    
>    Didn't you say yesterday that only dorks wear ties?  
>    

Yeah, but there's really two occasions that I can think of where a tie,
no matter how archaic or out-moded, is a necessity.

One is a job interview, where, let's face it, the dork across from you
who is hiring you is probably pretty useless (else why would he be 
hiring someone instead of doing the job himself) and he's got a tie on,
so you need to have one on.

The other is a funeral, which is the occasion I had yesterday.


Actually, right now I do not own a suit.  Since I started working out
I've not had one that fits, and I gave all of my suits (which were actually
fairly fine suits) to my dad, who is now the best dressed retired guy
I know.   My dad has been the beneficiary of me working out, actually, 
as he now has pairs and pairs of jeans, and more shirts than you can
imagine, all from me.  8^)    So I should probably get a suit, just
in case someone I know dies this winter.....


'Saw

47.337AKOCOA::J_RODOPOULOSWed Sep 08 1993 17:594
    I have to wear a tie every day.  I've gotten used to it, but show my
    rebellious side by wearing loud ties rather than the K-mart clip ons.
    
    John "D Cowboys" R.
47.338I know, I need a life.SWAM2::MASSEY_VII like FrankiesFurter best.Wed Sep 08 1993 18:319
    I wear tie, just not to work and not around my neck and not really in
    the fashion they were design for.
    
    Jake help me!!
    
    Why do I find it necessary to tell complete stranges about my strange
    behavior?
    
    Gin
47.339ROYALT::ASHEHey... what's going on?Wed Sep 08 1993 19:425
    I have a plastic, Don Nelson special, fish clipon tie I wear on
    occasion.  Plus other assorted ones from when we used to have "ugly
    tie" day at Burroughs.  My favorite was the fluorescent pink narrow
    tie with black salamanders crawling up it...
    
47.340(8^0PFSVAX::JACOBWed Sep 08 1993 19:4918
    
    >>  <<< Note 47.338 by SWAM2::MASSEY_VI "I like FrankiesFurter best." >>>
    >>                      -< I know, I need a life. >-

    >>I wear tie, just not to work and not around my neck and not really in
    >>the fashion they were design for.
    
    >>Jake help me!!
    
    I think this calls fer some "field investigation", so's I can see
    watchure use fer the ties really is!!!!  
    
    Be there as fast as my little hunkajunk'll carry me.  Watchure
    address??
    
    
    JaKe
    
47.34115724::FRANCUSMets in '94Wed Sep 08 1993 19:518
    re: .339
    
    Yeah I had one of those ties as well. Would wear it with a balck&red
    plaid blazer; looked truly hideous. This was at some dress-as-you-want
    days at a consulting firm I used to work for.
    
    The Crazy Met
    
47.342CAM3::WAYHers for the taking....Thu Sep 09 1993 14:3829
Jake,

I've got a friend who's a little weird.  Well, make that a lot weird.

Anyway, the dude is having some severe problems -- he's not eating, 
not sleeping, he wears his pajamas around under a grubby old bathrobe
and he's constantly scratching at his nuts, whether anyone can see or
not.  His hair is greasy, there's dirt under his fingernails, and he's
got a pretty good growth of beard growing in....

First off, I figure it's a woman problem -- either one dumped him, or
one won't talk to him, or somethin' like that....

So I ask him, "What's the problem?"

He looks me square in the eye, and says

		
		Does anal retentive have a hyphen?



Jake, can you help me on this one?  If I can give him an answer from you,
it might help him find the straight and narrow again, help him clean
himself up and keep his hands outta his pants, and become a productive
member of society again......


'Saw
47.343does he drool too?FRETZ::HEISERnotes from a lost civilizationThu Sep 09 1993 16:301
    
47.345CAM3::WAYHers for the taking....Thu Sep 09 1993 17:0013
|>and he's constantly scratching at his nuts, whether anyone can see or
|                                       ----
|    You must mean filberts, 'Saw.  Don't want ya to get in any trouble.


Oh, excuse me, I forgot.

Yes, he scratches at his filberts constantly.....


'Saw    
    

47.346SWAM2::MASSEY_VII like FrankiesFurter best.Thu Sep 09 1993 18:095
    I thought you studs called em your `Boys'.
    
    go figure.
    
    
47.34715724::FRANCUSNY YANKEES:A SPORTS DYNASTYThu Sep 09 1993 18:104
    Well obviously 'Saw is not a 'stud'
    
    The Crazy Met
    
47.348CAM3::WAYHers for the taking....Thu Sep 09 1993 18:189
I call 'em my boys.

But HE doesn't.  He calls him his "nuts"...(sorry Karen, but it's a direct
quote)

Filberts is a Kinder, Gentler, SPORTS expression for tes-ti-kals!


'Saw
47.349No explaination needed.SWAM2::MASSEY_VII like FrankiesFurter best.Thu Sep 09 1993 18:554
    He may not be a stud now, but he will be.
    
    
    
47.350CAMONE::WAYHers for the taking....Thu Sep 09 1993 18:569
>
>    He may not be a stud now, but he will be.
>    

Better send out that stallion ring then......

    
    

47.351SWAM2::MASSEY_VII like FrankiesFurter best.Thu Sep 09 1993 18:583
    Nope, don't want to stop it, just control it.
    
    Gin
47.352PFSVAX::JACOBthe ice bucket is full, melting fastThu Sep 09 1993 19:4915
    Nah, 'Saw, anal retentive does NOT have to be hyphenated.
    
    If that's all that's buggin him, maybe you should take him to the Magic
    Lantern some night, even get him a t-shirt, ya know???
    
    Maybe "she" told him she was leaving him because he was anal retentive,
    and he's just trying to figger out how to spell it in the note, so when
    he goes to the local university, takes perch in the bell tower and
    wastes 44 people before taking one himself between the eyes, at least
    he'll go knowing he wasn't using poor grammar.
    
    (8^)
    
    JaKe
    
47.353me me me me SWAM2::MASSEY_VII like FrankiesFurter best.Thu Sep 09 1993 19:542
    Wow, such insight!
    
47.354ROYALT::ASHEVP Secret Service codename -ButtafuocoThu Sep 09 1993 19:5516
    Ok, I'll try to ask someone "objective".
    
    Whaddya think Jake?  He's been bugging me about this bet since he's
    been sore about losing the Rodman bet.  I told him worry about it when
    the time comes.  To quote him in 113.75 "Hey we still got 2 weeks,
    what's the rush".  Now all of a sudden, he wants to go against the line
    instead of straight up, like a real main's bet.  I even said I'd go half 
    way and give him four.  Now that's still not good enough for him.  He's
    afraid the "Pussycats" (see 113.0) are gonna stomp on 'em and in RedSox
    tradition "close is good enough"?  in .57 he claimed it'd be a
    "PatriotBlowoutBash"
    
    Who should give in on this? Sounds like he's on the retreat and blowing
    more smoke than a Ron Howard fireman movie.
    
                                               
47.35515724::FRANCUSNY YANKEES:A SPORTS DYNASTYThu Sep 09 1993 19:5710
    Walt,
    
    1. what was the Rodman bet
    
    2. clarify the debate on this bet
    
    If anyone is qualified to be objective about p_name bets it is moi.
    
    The Crazy Met
    
47.356ROYALT::ASHEVP Secret Service codename -ButtafuocoThu Sep 09 1993 20:008
    We bet on the last Celts-Pistons playoff series... Celts win I wear
    a Bird hat at a Fenway gathering.  Pistons win, he wears a Rodman
    t-shirt.  Pistons won, he wore the shirt.  No odds, points, etc...
    
    he's been wanting payback for a while.  He asked me early in the
    summer about this and I told him I wasn't ready to think football
    yet.  Not no, just no ready.  Then he asks and throws the spread
    into it...  he didn't say "Detriot, laying 7" this summer...
47.357PFSVAX::JACOBthe ice bucket is full, melting fastThu Sep 09 1993 20:0212
    Walt, 
    
    Methinks he realizes that, even with Big Bill in charge of the team,
    they're still pretty damned lousy a team.  It'll take 3 year to purge
    this bunch of losers from the PAtsies.
    
    Make him take it straight up if he's so damned sure of hisself, or
    offer him the 4 one more time, and if he balks, don't wager.  he'd
    probably welch on it anyways.
    
    JaKe
    
47.358CAM3::WAYHers for the taking....Thu Sep 09 1993 20:0313
>    Nah, 'Saw, anal retentive does NOT have to be hyphenated.

Cool.
    
>    If that's all that's buggin him, maybe you should take him to the Magic
>    Lantern some night, even get him a t-shirt, ya know???

Nah, he'd probably sit there scratching his {boys,filberts,nuts}
and get us tossed


'Saw    

47.35915724::FRANCUSNY YANKEES:A SPORTS DYNASTYThu Sep 09 1993 20:045
    Words of wisdom, as always, JaKe. But, "discussions" such as these 
    over football games traditionally do include the spread.
    
    The Crazy Met
    
47.360(8^)PFSVAX::JACOBthe ice bucket is full, melting fastThu Sep 09 1993 20:056
    TCY,
    
    Spread this, dingleberry.
    
    JaKe
    
47.361ROYALT::ASHEVP Secret Service codename -ButtafuocoThu Sep 09 1993 20:064
    The offer for 4 points is still open.  On principle and being REAL
    Mainly main, he shouldn't get that... it is in Foxboro... but if he
    wants 4, I'll give him 4...
    
47.362PFSVAX::JACOBthe ice bucket is full, melting fastThu Sep 09 1993 20:088
    re.361
    
    If that's the case, take it back to 113.* and hash it out.
    
    Like I said, be careful he don't welsh.
    
    JaKe
    
47.363CAM3::WAYHers for the taking....Thu Sep 09 1993 20:104
Why don't you guys just arm-wrestle or something?


'Saw
47.364ROYALT::ASHEVP Secret Service codename -ButtafuocoThu Sep 09 1993 20:124
    Cuz Yoseff's on /Don's side and we know what he did to Cathmeister.
    /Don might use him as a pinch hitter.
    
    I came to you JaKe as the be all and end all...
47.365PFSVAX::JACOBthe ice bucket is full, melting fastThu Sep 09 1993 20:1514
    >> <<< Note 47.364 by ROYALT::ASHE "VP Secret Service codename -Buttafuoco" >>>

    >>Cuz Yoseff's on /Don's side and we know what he did to Cathmeister.
    
    Yeah, but what Kev did to Cathmeister was worse, wasn't it????
    
    
    >>I came to you JaKe as the be all and end all...
    
    Is this sorta like calling me the high and exalted one?????
    
    One what, that is????
    
    
47.366ROYALT::ASHEVP Secret Service codename -ButtafuocoThu Sep 09 1993 20:215
    Yeah, but that chapter's closed, so I'm not worried about that...
    
    I figured even if you weren't, you'd make a fair decision...
    I ain't kissing your butt but so far on this one...
    
47.36715724::FRANCUSNY YANKEES:A SPORTS DYNASTYThu Sep 09 1993 20:227
    I'm not on /er's side, I'm making an objective decision.
    
    Walt, answer this: would you have let Cathmeister win? Pretend that you
    are in that no win situation, what would you do?
    
    The Crazy Met
    
47.368CAMONE::WAYHers for the taking....Thu Sep 09 1993 20:2311
>    Walt, answer this: would you have let Cathmeister win? Pretend that you
>    are in that no win situation, what would you do?
    


		Fight the horde, sing and cry
		'Valhalla I am coming....'


'Saw

47.369ROYALT::ASHEVP Secret Service codename -ButtafuocoThu Sep 09 1993 20:313
    I'd let her win... it was all a joke anyway... yeah, I'd have thrown
    it...
    
47.370VAXMKT::ROBICHAUDReady Steady Go!Fri Sep 10 1993 17:516
47.371exit38728::CHILDSERS, cause everybody can't play U2Fri Sep 10 1993 17:554
who cares what vegas would say. I say you're yellower than MorT......

;60
47.372SCO = SemiConductor Operations38728::CHILDSERS, cause everybody can't play U2Fri Sep 10 1993 17:575
Jake, now that SCO has cut the prices of Alphas in half, will the sales
folks be able to sell them????????

mike
47.373ROYALT::ASHEjust 2b da man who walked 1000 lapsFri Sep 10 1993 18:202
    Depends on if you went to the window now or before...
    
47.374CAM3::WAYHers for the taking....Fri Sep 10 1993 18:227
>
>    Depends on if you went to the window now or before...
>    


If I go to the window with my Depends on?  I don't even wear Depends.....

47.375I'd hate being a 'probie' again though....CAM3::WAYHers for the taking....Wed Sep 15 1993 13:2538
Jake,

I've got a problem.


I'm thinking of packing it all in, and putting all my hopes and dreams
on the line and taking the firefighter's test in Hartford.   I want
some excitement in my life, and I miss eating smoke and feeling my
eyes burn and tear up.

As Ronnie Van Zant used to say in the song 'Searchin', 

	"Lord, I'm not satisfied"


Now, I know I'd have to lose a few pounds more, but I know I could
carry that 135 pound dummy anywhere they want, and it's been a while
since I've had to hump hose, but I know I could do that too.  I haven't
pulled a ceiling in a while either, but it's like riding a bike -- you
don't forget.


My question isn't whether I should do it -- I still have to decide about
that, but my question for you is this:  

	I'm going to be 35 soon.  Is THIS dilemma a mid-life crisis?



thanks Jake,
'Saw


PS  To answer my question you have to be Jake, not Frank....




47.376PFSVAX::JACOBNo, I wanna be Frank this time!Wed Sep 15 1993 19:5220
    
>>Now, I know I'd have to lose a few pounds more, but I know I could
>>carry that 135 pound dummy anywhere they want
    
    What's Kev got to do with this????
    
    
>>	I'm going to be 35 soon.  Is THIS dilemma a mid-life crisis?
    
    Very possibly.  Mid-life crisis cain strike anytime after 30 yrs old. 
    Unless yer a dog, then it cain strike anytime after 4.
    
    If ya been going thru tons of stressed out pressure filled work
    recently, that could be the cause.  But remember, the grass is always
    greener......'specially where they dump fertilizer.
    
    Schnorttt Schittt Schleppps
    
    JaKe
    
47.377PFSVAX::JACOBNo, I wanna be Frank this time!Wed Sep 15 1993 20:3918
    
>>on the line and taking the firefighter's test in Hartford.   I want
                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    
    1.  close your eyes, stick your hands thru the two holes in the wall,
    which is in the fire, and which is in the ice????
    
    
    Scoring:  1 right, you is a fireman in training
    	      0 right, you still may be a fireman in training, just take
    the test again.
    
    Is this how this test works??
    
    What piece of paper is on fire, and which is not??
    
    JaKe
    
47.378CAM3::WAYImmature Color LikerThu Sep 16 1993 13:2621
>    Is this how this test works??
    
Nah.

They have a classroom part, and then a physical test.

You've got to carry this 135 lb dummy around, up ladders and stuff like
that, and what-not.

Then you go to school, and you're called a Probie (short for Probationary
Member).

After that, you're a full-fledged firefighter.




	"Firefighting is COOL"

			- Beavis    

47.379VAXMKT::ROBICHAUDSFGiants'93,NYStockExchange'29Thu Sep 16 1993 15:3910
	Hey RaKe, why does everybody want to "Free Willy".  Personally I 
hate whales.  What do they do besides emit whale flatulence and beach 
themselves?  Whales are stoopid, ugly and destructive.  There's only one 
sports team that uses a whale for a logo, and we know how hopeless they are.
Why do people spend inordinate amounts of time trying to save these 
pathetic creatures, vainly attempting to reverse Darwin's theory of survival 
of the fittest?  The hell with Willy!  Let's cut him up for the only 
worthwhile thing he has, blubber.

				/Don
47.380hope this helpsFRETZ::HEISERnotes from the lost civilizationThu Sep 16 1993 16:265
>pathetic creatures, vainly attempting to reverse Darwin's theory of survival 
>of the fittest?  The hell with Willy!  Let's cut him up for the only 
    
    If they're reversing the theory, maybe it's the theory that has a
    problem.
47.381MSBCS::BRYDIEI need somebody to shove!Thu Sep 16 1993 16:399
   Actually, contrary to popular belief, Darwin did *not* coin the
  phrase "survival of the fittest".


  BTW - I'm producing a new movie about a young boy who becomes pen 
        pals with a convict. When the convict gets out he finds the
        kid and beats him to death. I'm gonna call it, "Free Willie
        Horton". It'll be the feel good movie of the year.
47.382LAGUNA::MAY_BRMEts in (last in) 94Thu Sep 16 1993 16:428
 >   I'm producing a new movie about a young boy who becomes pen        
 >   pals with a convict. When the convict gets out he finds the        kid
 >   and beats him to death.
    
    If the kid is played my McCauley Caulkin, and you don't allow any
    pulled punches or stunt doubles, I'll be the first standing in line.
    
    brews
47.383CAM3::WAYImmature Color LikerThu Sep 16 1993 17:0512
>    If the kid is played my McCauley Caulkin, and you don't allow any
>    pulled punches or stunt doubles, I'll be the first standing in line.
    
McCauley is going to be playing a bad boy in the new movie 'The Good Son'.
The boy who plays opposite him is the older brother from 'Radio Flyer',
which is a favorite of mine....


I'd rather watch Sarah Jessica Parker than little kids anyday....


'Saw
47.384Free Willie WhistleCTHQ::LEARYCorporate Telecom Technology SolutionsThu Sep 16 1993 17:362
    
    
47.385Free Willie JohnsonFRETZ::HEISERnotes from the lost civilizationThu Sep 16 1993 17:541
    
47.386Oh, I did it good this time....CAM3::WAYImmature Color LikerThu Sep 16 1993 18:2832
Jake,

I've got a BIG problem.  And I mean a BIG problem.


See I have this friend, of the female persuasion, from New Jersey. 
And she's coming up this weekend, for a nice weekend of, well, of, 
um, uh, er, for the weekend.....


And I have this other friend, of the female persuasion, from California.
And she's flying out this weekend, for a nice weekend of, well, of, 
um, uh, er, for the weekend.....


I guess I must've messed up my dates, and now I'm in a predicament.
I mean, in a couple of hours I'm gonna "have more pretty women
than a passenger train can haul"  (T For Texas, Jake) showing up
at my house.


What do I do?  Which one do I send to a hotel?  Which one do I ask
to stay?

Or do I ask them both to stay and get into one of them french menagerie
things?


HELP!!!!!


'Saw
47.387stay safe and saneFRETZ::HEISERnotes from the lost civilizationThu Sep 16 1993 18:481
    Let them both stay and you go to the hotel.
47.388MSBCS::BRYDIEI need somebody to shove!Thu Sep 16 1993 18:493
 'Saw, I hope you're not really prepared to act according to any advice
 that Jake gives you.
47.389ROYALT::ASHERock Babes Are People TooThu Sep 16 1993 18:531
    I've got the weekend free... nah, never mind... 
47.390Paper of PlasticOURGNG::RIGGENJeff Riggen 592-5249Thu Sep 16 1993 19:219
C'mon Saw weve all seen this done on the sitcoms every week. Just keep running
between bedrooms changing your outfit in the hallway bathroom in-between the 2 
rooms. 


On a serious note I heard that a Oregon company is gonna make paper condoms. 
This should make the statement paper or plastic more interesting. 

Jeff 
47.391:-) GulpWMOIS::CHAPALONIS_MNo.3 looms over Fenway.....Thu Sep 16 1993 19:276
    
    
         Can I come over Saw? My Wifes Pregnant so I uh er.. like to watch.
    
    
    Chappy
47.392PFSVAX::JACOBNo, I wanna be Frank this time!Thu Sep 16 1993 19:5215
    
>>What do I do?  Which one do I send to a hotel?  Which one do I ask
>>to stay?

>>Or do I ask them both to stay and get into one of them french menagerie
>>things?
    
    Introduce them to each other, take them out to dinner, out fer drinks
    and drinks and drinks afterwards, and stock up on pep pills, cause if
    things go well, it'll be a weekend of "I & I" like ya never had before.
    
    Schnorttt Shcittt Schleppps
    
    JaKe
    
47.393PFSVAX::JACOBNo, I wanna be Frank this time!Thu Sep 16 1993 19:5311
    Slasher,
    
    Kwit yer blubbering, it's only a "G" movie and stands nothinglike real
    life anyways.
    
    BTW, when I was stationed in England, to "Free Willy" had implications
    mucho different thatn letting a whale go.  Especially if'n ya had a few
    beers and wanted to "Empty Willy", ya know??
    
    JaKe
    
47.394Willie WonkaCSTEAM::FARLEYCarol's wearing maternity clothesThu Sep 16 1993 20:221
    
47.395Willie......or......Won'te?CSTEAM::FARLEYCarol's wearing maternity clothesThu Sep 16 1993 20:221
    
47.396ROYALT::ASHERock Babes Are People TooThu Sep 16 1993 20:4413
    Met this really nice and attractive woman a couple of weeks ago.  Think
    we might be going out to play some tennis this weekend, weather
    permitting.
    
    Now, on the one hand, based on the name, people expect me to go out
    and kick serious tail.  On the other hand, it sounds like she's a
    beginner and I'd hate to humiliate her.  Last time I used this as a
    way to get to know a woman better, it was my fault and a poor attempt
    at love.  Of course, she had an attitude about how she thought she
    could whup any guy that faced her and I had to set her straight.  But
    other times, women can tell you're throwing games to make them feel
    better.  Any ideas?
    
47.397FRETZ::HEISERnotes from the lost civilizationThu Sep 16 1993 21:016
>         Can I come over Saw? My Wifes Pregnant so I uh er.. like to watch.
    
    I missed the significance of this.  Why can't you perform your mainly
    duties while your wife is pregnant?  There's a grand opportunity here,
    especially in the first trimester where those raging hormones tip the
    "want" scale.
47.398glad to helpFRETZ::HEISERnotes from the lost civilizationThu Sep 16 1993 21:052
    Walt, play a game you're no good at and one that she is good at.  Then 
    it will be obvious that she whupped you for good.
47.399ROYALT::ASHERock Babes Are People TooThu Sep 16 1993 21:093
    Not sure what that is yet... trying to find out...
    Maybe I can coach her and see how her form is...
    
47.400I think you're already seen her formFRETZ::HEISERnotes from the lost civilizationThu Sep 16 1993 21:141
    
47.401PFSVAX::JACOBNo, I wanna be Frank this time!Thu Sep 16 1993 21:2817
    
    >>I missed the significance of this.  Why can't you perform your mainly
    >>duties while your wife is pregnant?  There's a grand opportunity here,
    >>especially in the first trimester where those raging hormones tip the
    >>"want" scale.
    
    Not everybody has "regular" style pregnancies, Mike.
    
    I don't know his situation, but a friend of my wife's is 10 weeks
    along, and she has problems carrying the kids, and the doctor told them
    absolutely NO NOOKIE fer the rest of the pregnancy, cause it may
    disturb the "moorings" of the little one to be.
    
    Schnortt Schitt Schlepps
    
    JaKe
    
47.402sorry, that possibility slipped my mindFRETZ::HEISERnotes from the lost civilizationThu Sep 16 1993 21:411
    
47.403DECWET::METZGERGood mornin' america, how are ya'?Thu Sep 16 1993 22:1415
Walt,

Sprain your ankle this afternoon and beg out of the tennis match. You can't
win. If you lose, she'll either think you threw it or that you are a faux Ashe.
If you win you'll be seen as a brute.

Go play golf instead where everybody can stink and you're playing against
yourself instead of each other...or play mini-golf where it's a fun activity
instead of a competition...

Or even better go throw a frisbee around and have a picnic and drink cheap
wine...

Metz
47.404(8^)PFSVAX::JACOBNo, I wanna be Frank this time!Thu Sep 16 1993 22:566
    Or better yet, get her to play "indoor golf" with ya.
    
    Don't have the rules handy, but I thinks ya gets the picture.
    
    JaKe
    
47.405I suppose Tool-Time ain't in da future?CSTEAM::FARLEYCarol's wearing maternity clothesFri Sep 17 1993 12:5814
    
    Yabbut if she catches ya playin' "pocket pool" she'll definitely
    think yer weird and it'll be the lasted ya see of her.  Would that
    be a blessing????
    
    AND, regarding the "prego-nookie" play, @16-17 weeks, I still gets it
    but with plenty o' comments about squashin da bun in da oven.
    
    BTW, did I mention that the bun's gonna wear pink?  ;^)
    
    I remain,
    very happy but very,very ignorant about what to do with a daughter
    Kev
    
47.406ROYALT::ASHERock Babes Are People TooFri Sep 17 1993 13:419
    Guess t-ball is out and softball is in?  Or is this an effeminent (sp?)
    little boy?
    
    I haven't seen her play tennis, so I don't know what her "form" is.
    
    If I sprain an ankle, how the heck can I go run after a frisbee...
    
    Looks like rain tomorrow anyway, the point may be moot...
    
47.407AKOCOA::J_RODOPOULOSFri Sep 17 1993 13:447
    'Saw, send both of them to hotels but make sure they are not in the
    same one.  That way you can go see either one without running into the
    other.  
    
    BTW, you may want to eat extra mangoes this weekend.
    
    John "D Cowboys" R.
47.408Nice reference - I got it!TNPUBS::NAZZAROReggie Lewis - R.I.P.Fri Sep 17 1993 13:553
    But make sure your mango is nice and ripe.
    
    NAZZ
47.409ROYALT::ASHERock Babes Are People TooFri Sep 17 1993 14:043
    But can he pick his own mangoes or does someone need to pick it out
    for him?
    
47.410AKOCOA::J_RODOPOULOSFri Sep 17 1993 14:215
    ..I actually think he might have to go below the equator to find them,
    but he better know what he's doing or else he;ll get the tap or even
    worse the hook.
    
    John "D Cowboys" R.
47.411I think 'Saw is faking itCTHQ::LEARYCorporate Telecom Technology SolutionsFri Sep 17 1993 14:467
    -1, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Cowboy, the "tap" or "hook" indeed.
    
    MikeL
    
    P.S. Did Kramer git satisfaction??
    
    
47.412ROYALT::ASHERock Babes Are People TooFri Sep 17 1993 14:541
    I bet Saw faked it...
47.413Sorta like the College Boards?CSTEAM::FARLEYCarol's wearing maternity clothesFri Sep 17 1993 15:5652
    
    Yabbut JaKe, I'm having problems with the Georgetown University
    Admission Test.  Can you help me with some of the answers?
    
    t'anks
    
    I remain,
    a student wannabee!
    Kev
    
    
===============================================================================
		      Georgetown University Admissions Test
				      and
    			Basketball Team Application Form
    

Name:______________________________________  Gang: ______________________



1. Johnny has an AK47 with a 40 round clip.  If he misses 6 out of 10 shots
and shots 13 times at each drive by shooting, how many drive by shootings
can he attend before he has to reload?

2. Jose has 2 ounces of cocaine and he sells an 8 ball to Jackson for $320
and 2 grams to Billy for $85 per grams.  What is the street value of the balance
of the cocaine if he doesn't cut it?

3. Rufus is pimping for three girls.  If the price is $65 for each trick, how
many tricks will each have to turn so Rufus can pay for his $800 per day
crack habit?

4. Jarome wants to cut his 1/2 pound of heroin to make 20% more profit.  How
many ounces of cut will he need?

5. Willis gets $200 for stealing a BMW, $50 for a Chevy, and $100 for a 4x4.
If he has stolen 2 BMWs and 3 4x4s, how many chevy's will he have to 
steal to make $800?

6. Raoul is in prison for 6 years for murder.  He got $10,000 for the hit.  If 
his common law wife is spending $100 per month, how much money will be left 
when he gets out of prison and how many years will he get for killing the bitch
that spent his money?

7. If the average spray can covers 22 square feet and the average letter is
8 square feet, how many letters can a tagger spray with 3 cans of paint?

8. Hector knocked up 6 girls in his gang.  There are 27 girls in the gang.
What percentage of the girls in the gang has Hector knocked up?


47.414trip to the equator isn't necessaryFRETZ::HEISERAWANAFri Sep 17 1993 16:332
    I have a mango tree in my back yard.  I seen them all over northern
    Mexico and southern California as well.  
47.415I'm rolling, but is it Politically Correct?TNPUBS::NAZZAROReggie Lewis - R.I.P.Fri Sep 17 1993 16:353
    Is it racist tosay that's the funniest thing I've read in ages?
    
    NAZZ
47.416ROYALT::ASHERock Babes Are People TooFri Sep 17 1993 16:444
    What about Mangoes?
    
    Sounds more like a Univ. of Miami application right now...
    
47.417VAXMKT::ROBICHAUDSFGiants'93,NYStockExchange'29Fri Sep 17 1993 17:143
    	Reads like a job application for Tinkum's in Leominster.
    
    				/Don
47.418MSBCS::BRYDIEI need somebody to shove!Fri Sep 17 1993 17:182
  That's worse than bigoted, it's not funny.
47.419PFSVAX::JACOBNo, I wanna be Frank this time!Fri Sep 17 1993 19:476
    Roooooooooooooooooollward you 135 pound dummy!!
    
    (8^)
    
    JaKe
    
47.420there's a bit of confusion going aroundCSTEAM::FARLEYCarol's wearing maternity clothesFri Sep 17 1993 20:0112
    
    Yabbut excuuuuussse me!
    
    *I* happen to be 124 pounds.  I think Bob McCullough is the 135 pound
    dummy
    
    ;^)
    
    I remain,
    the same for over 15 years!
    Kev
    
47.421Catfish Grappling: SPORT or hobby?RHETT::KNORRCarolina BlueWed Sep 22 1993 16:4942
JaKe,

I read with interest an article in my Sunday newspaper about the "sport"
of catfish grappling.  It should be pointed out that this article was
_NOT_ in the SPORTS section, and hence my question:

"Is Catfish Grappling a SPORT?"

What *is* catfish grappling you axe?  Well it's a time-honored activity
that is seemingly only practiced in Mississippi and involves the placement
of bathtubs into catfish nesting grounds.  The catfish then make their home
in the bathtubs and grow quite large.  The _average_ size is around 40-50
pounds.  The record is somewhere in the vicinity of 95 pounds.

Now for the fun part.  The catfish grappler swims down to the bathtub, 
operating completely by touch, since these waters are so muddy you can't
see the hand in front of yer face.  When he discovers a tub with somebody
home, he stations himself completely in front, so when the fish bolts
(and he will bolt) he'll swim smack into him.  At this point he *quickly*
inserts his entire arm into the catfishes mouth, essentially providing
part of himself as bait.  Only in this manner (i.e. arm in mouth) is it
possible to "grapple" the critter to the surface, since trying to hold onto
a slimmy fish of this size is a bit unwieldy to say the least.

A few other interesting tidbits:

o Apparently the would-be grappler is aided in finding the submerged bathtubs
  by a low growling noise the huge tabby makes when they hear a potential
  intruder;

o The sport has gone through a "boom" of sorts thanks to the use of scuba
  diving equipment.  In the old days it'd just be you and the fish - none
  of this fancy high technology.

o Catfish do have teeth, but they're small and dull.


Waiting anxiously,


- ACC Chris
    
47.422VAXMKT::ROBICHAUDRussia-MeetNewBoss,SameAsOldBossWed Sep 22 1993 16:573
    	If you can bet on it the activity is a sport, if not it's a hobby.
    
    				/Don_for_RaKe
47.423no motor so it must beCSTEAM::FARLEYCarol's wearing maternity clothesWed Sep 22 1993 17:008
    
    Yabbut if'n ya play with da wiskas on da catfish, cain ya poke
    yer eye out?
    
    I remain,
    wondering why my mother never told me...
    Kev
    
47.424Didnt' Knorr major in Catfish Grappling at No CarolinaHBAHBA::HAASPrimus Caverns GuyWed Sep 22 1993 17:080
47.425QUASER::JACKSONTAReal man's sport has started!Wed Sep 22 1993 19:175
      Wouldn't it be easier to catch them with chicken liver or other stink
    bait?  Its bad enough having to "clean" fishies,  but to stick your
    hand down their gull?
    
      Tim
47.426ROYALT::ASHEcheck da hook while da DJ revolves itWed Sep 22 1993 19:272
    If in "Casey at the Bat" men were at second and third... why didn't
    they pitch around Casey?
47.427CTHQ::LEARYCorporate Telecom Technology SolutionsWed Sep 22 1993 19:298
    I gots a qualifier there Chris,
    
    Afore JaKe cain answer, how much Tennessee Sour Mash needs to
    be consumed before these "sportsters" arm wrassle these here
    fish to the surface? 
    
    MikeL
    
47.428NAC::G_WAUGAMANWed Sep 22 1993 19:299
    
    > If in "Casey at the Bat" men were at second and third... why didn't
    > they pitch around Casey?
    
    Unless you're Butch Hobson, you never ever put the winning run on base
    intentionally...
    
    glenn
    
47.42916134::CHAPALONIS_MThe Crazy Met is a WELCHERWed Sep 22 1993 19:3110
    
    
           Walt wouldn't the story than be. "Casey at First" or "Casey
    intentionally walked"?
    
    
    
    Just wondering?
    
    Chappy
47.430ROYALT::ASHEcheck da hook while da DJ revolves itWed Sep 22 1993 19:395
    No, it just ends early...
    
    What if the on deck hitter was lousy... do we know anything about him?
    Say it was Rob Deer?  Master of the Whiff...
    
47.431If I had to grapple the answer would be "A lot.".RHETT::KNORRCarolina BlueWed Sep 22 1993 19:478
    re: MikeL
    
    An interesting follow-up question but I believe we're putting the cart
    before the horse since JaKe hasn't officially recognized Catfish
    Grappling as SPORT.
    
    
    - ACC Chris
47.432PFSVAX::JACOBWed Sep 22 1993 20:2010
    I dunno if it truly cain qualify as a sport.  Now, if'n the Grappler
    was to get the grapplee wif, say, impaled wif his appendage(Look Ma, no
    hands) then it could be a sport(and Jimmy Swaggart would probably
    play).
    
    Also, I think the grapplers MUST consume a large amount of spirits
    afore heading into the unknown, and fighting in the fish's back yard.
    
    JaKe
    
47.433a rose by any other name....CSC32::J_HENSONBut what about anemone handling?Wed Sep 22 1993 20:353
Is catfish grappling anything like shooting white doves in the shower?    

Jerry
47.434PFSVAX::JACOBWed Sep 22 1993 20:438
    
    >>shooting white doves in the shower?    
    
    
    Huh????  Never heard this one before.
    
    JaKe
    
47.435ROYALT::ASHEcheck da hook while da DJ revolves itWed Sep 22 1993 21:142
    Now that everyone else answered my question, could JaKe answer the
    "Casey at the bat" question?
47.436PFSVAX::JACOBThu Sep 23 1993 02:4219
    
    >>If in "Casey at the Bat" men were at second and third... why didn't
    >>they pitch around Casey?
    
    Well, all of the good reasons have already been stated:
    
    -NEVER put the winning run on base
    -if he'd been put on, Casey at the Bat would've never been written
    -He was having a bad hair day
    -Casey wasn't all he was cracked up to be
    -his girlfriend Margo was in the stands, wearing no undies, flashing
     him and the other team knew this, and decided to pitch to him cause
     they knew where his mind was REALLY at
    
    
    Schnortt Schitt Schlepps
    
    JaKe
    
47.437been on my mind fo a while.....CSTEAM::FARLEYCarol's wearing maternity clothesThu Sep 23 1993 16:4519
    
    Yabbut JaKe, I know you have a sorta_automotive background so....
    
    Which came first?
    
    
    	Found			Frequently		Fix
    	On		or	Overhauled	or	Or
    	Road			Rarely			Repair
    	Dead			Driven			Daily
    
    
    
    I remain,
    a Chevy guy myself!
    Kev
    
    
    
47.438First on Race DayHBAHBA::HAASPrimus Caverns GuyThu Sep 23 1993 16:486
Kev,

Down these ways, when it gets nice and quiet at night, you can hear them
chevies rust ;-).

TTom
47.439SALEM::DODANothing's more expensive than regretThu Sep 23 1993 16:483
Kev, on quiet nights, you can hear Chevy's rusting....

daryll
47.440SALEM::DODANothing's more expensive than regretThu Sep 23 1993 16:491
Notes collision! Uncanny too.
47.441no no no boys.....;^)CSTEAM::FARLEYCarol's wearing maternity clothesThu Sep 23 1993 17:0814
    
    Yabbut
    
    	Mustangs RUST
    
    	'Vettes  DON'T RUST!
    
    
    nuff said!
    
    I remain,
    metallurgically correct!
    Kev
    
47.442Course, Stangs are real rustbucketsSALEM::DODANothing's more expensive than regretThu Sep 23 1993 17:135
Bzzzt, try again Kev. 

Vettes do rust.

daryll
47.443LAGUNA::MAY_BRMEts in (last in) 94Thu Sep 23 1993 17:168
    
    Jake,
    
    Was is this latest thing with "bzzzzt, wrong answer!...?"  Did I miss a
    critical class in Modern Cliche' or sumfin?  Is there some show on Fox
    I don't watch that I should?
    
    brews
47.444instant clicheHBAHBA::HAASPrimus Caverns GuyThu Sep 23 1993 17:278
Brews,

I was hot in ::SOAPBOX during the titanic struggles of the thumpers
versus the doomed to hell crowd. At least that's where I first saw it.

Someone started it and now you see it all over the network.

TTom
47.445CSC32::M_MACGREGORThu Sep 23 1993 17:529
    
    > "bzzzzt, wrong answer!"
    
    Die Hard, where the "hero" says "bzzzzt, wrong answer!  Do you care to
    play double jeopardy where the scores can really change?"  and it
    replayed on TV recently.
    
    Marc
    
47.446PFSVAX::JACOBThu Sep 23 1993 20:0812
    Actually Kev, the one which came first was
    
    F__king
    Old
    Rebuilt
    Dodge
    
    
    (As I drive my Tempo to and from work)
    
    JaKe
    
47.447suck my tailpipe!SWAM2::MASSEY_VII don't know, he's shooting blanks!Thu Sep 23 1993 21:396
    Of course Stangs are rust bucket, they are made with good ole American
    Steel.  My Stang is a bit rusty but it beats them fiberglass deathtraps
    every time!!!
    
    
    Gin
47.448PFSVAX::JACOBThu Sep 23 1993 23:2018
    
    >>Of course Stangs are rust bucket, they are made with good ole American
    >>Steel.  My Stang is a bit rusty but it beats them fiberglass deathtraps
    >>every time!!!
    
    One fo the funniest(fer me, not him) things I saw beside the road was
    this guy, standing beside a hull of a vahicle which HAD BEEN a
    Corvette, circa 61-63, and was now just the support mechanism from
    where the fibeerglass used to be.  The car had been coming up the road,
    thrown a wheel, spun and spun and spun, all the time taking out a row
    of guardrail with the fiberglass, er should I say, losing it's
    fiberglass in a battle with the guardrail.
    
    The guy WAS crying at the sight of what USED TO BE a nice car worth
    mucho bucks.
    
    JaKe
    
47.449Yer all heart Jake.SALEM::DODAWelcome to AmerikaFri Sep 24 1993 13:110
47.450MSE1::FRANCUSpo' po' ChappyFri Sep 24 1993 14:074
    JaKe's just a sensitive kind of guy.
    
    The Crazy Met
    
47.451Course this was back in the early 80sCAM3::WAYJade is COOL....Fri Sep 24 1993 14:2813
When we used to do rescue work on wreck on Rt 2 in Glastonbury (and the
stretch between exit 10 and 12 is a deadly stretch of road) we used to 
love to work on little import cars, because the Hurst Tool would slide
through that thin metal like butter.

American cars were tougher, especially around the doorposts and stuff like
that.

Never had to work on a 'vette though.  Nothing the Hurst could do with
fiberglass I would think.....


'Saw
47.452PFSVAX::JACOBListen to the music of the nightFri Sep 24 1993 20:2114
    
    >>	'Vettes  DON'T RUST!
    
    Kev
    
    As somebody stated back somewhere, yer statement is WRONGO!!!!!
    
    'Vettes, especially in the late '60s and early 70's were highly
    susceptible to the frames rotting away, in vewwwwwwy short time.
    
    and it ain't fun replacing one of them puppies, either.
    
    JaKe
    
47.453one minute later - POOF!!!!!!!CSTEAM::FARLEYCarol's wearing maternity clothesMon Sep 27 1993 11:2915
    
    Yabbut wail, mebbe I'll defer to you JaKester as a_expert and
    mebbe 'vettes *could* rust but I gotsta say that
    
    
    
    
    		MUSTANGS RUST *FASTER*!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    ;^)
    
    I remain,
    attempting to start a new kind of LDUC!
    Kev
    
47.454alternative to bambi blastin?CSTEAM::FARLEYCarol's wearing maternity clothesTue Sep 28 1993 18:1620
    
    JaKe,
    
    all dat action in da hunting note got me to a_thinkin and I was wonder
    and was hopping you could halp me.
    
    Ya see, in my backyard we gots this squirrel.  I don't like him and I
    wanna hunt him dead!  Do you know when squirrel hunting season starts?
    
    Also, being a main of peaceful means, I don't own killer type guns BUT
    I have a sling shot.  Other than the fact that sling shots are illegal
    in Massatwochits (true fact btw), is it OK to hunt squirrels with them.
    Got any advice on the best was to kill the critter and yet, not have
    the local constibulary haul my butt off to the mandatory 1 year in da
    slammer?
    
    I remain,
    not the criminal type but none the less, a criminal, I guess
    Kev
    
47.455Just been one of those days.SWAM2::MASSEY_VII don't know, he's shooting blanks!Tue Sep 28 1993 18:558
    Kev.
    
    I would use a shot gun myself.  Just aim and shoot.  You don't even
    have to take it in for processing.
    
    Gin
    
    
47.456PFSVAX::JACOBBeavis and 'Dickhead'??????Tue Sep 28 1993 18:5721
    Well, the best way, IMHO is to gas them to death.
    
    Dress up as a tree(WEAR NOTHING UNDER THE TREE COSTUME, this is key).
    
    Have a knothole about 3 feet off of the ground...er...in yer case
    shorty, about 2 feet.  Make sure that the night before, you drink lots
    of Genesee Cream Ale, eat lots of hard boiled eggs, a pound or so of
    peanuts, some nackos wif jalapenos, a coule of tacos or so.
    
    Get out in the yard in yer tree costume, stand very still, although ya
    cain sway with the wind from time to time.  When the little puke of a
    critter climbs yer leg...er...stump...er...trunk, goes thru the hole to
    retrieve yer nuts, slap a rag in the hole and let the gas fly.  The
    critter will be daid in a matter of seconds.
    
    Give the daid aminal to some hunter type, and laugh quietly to yerself
    when he tells ya nexted time he sees ya that that was the best tasting
    squirrel he ever et.
    
    JaKe
    
47.457besides, sling-shots don't rust either ;^)CSTEAM::FARLEYCarol's wearing maternity clothesTue Sep 28 1993 19:0913
    
    Yabbut Gin,
    
    I already said I didn't own a serious killer type gun so that's not
    a_option.  Got any more ideas?
    
    Besides, if I did it your way, I wouldn't be able to fire up the ol'
    bass-o-matic!
    
    I remain,
    liking the silence of sling-shots.  Shot guns make too much noise.
    Kev
    
47.458I need to know right awaySSAG::SNYDERSet your chickens freeWed Sep 29 1993 04:366
    Dear JaKe,
    
    Is there a toenail fairy?  I'd rather not risk Gail's wrath putting it
    under the pillow without there being some reasonable expectation of reward.
    
    Sid
47.459MSE1::FRANCUSpo' po' ChappyWed Sep 29 1993 04:384
    Hey Sid watcha doin' notin' so late; that is my domain :-)
    
    The Crazy Met
    
47.460MKFSA::LONGAll gave some, some gave all...Wed Sep 29 1993 12:1713
	Send any and all spare squirrels to Merrimack, New Hampshire.  The 
	dozen or so Oak trees in my yard have a bumper crop of acorns this
	year.  Nairy a squirrel to be seen.  Rakin' these thangs up ain't
	fun neither.  

	If'n them little furry buggers don't get to work soon I'm gonna hafta 
	fire up the old McCullough.  (Not you, =bob=, the chainsaw.)

	I wonder if'n you can hire squirrels.  Kinda like small furry
	migrant workers.


	billl
47.461CAM3::WAYJade is COOL....Wed Sep 29 1993 12:2913
>	fire up the old McCullough.  (Not you, =bob=, the chainsaw.)
                                                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Anytime, babe... anytime....;^) ;^)



My squirrels are out in force.  Every once in a while the wolf_dog catches
one.  He'll lay there real quiet like, and wait for one to run along
the low rail of the fence, by him.  SNAP, and it's all over.....


'Saw
47.462CTHQ::MCCULLOUGHMelanie is one year old!!!Wed Sep 29 1993 13:433
Ah'd never hurt a po' defenseless squirrel...

=Bob=
47.463But how do you get rid of the possum?SWAM2::MASSEY_VII don't know, he's shooting blanks!Wed Sep 29 1993 14:144
    Hmm, no other ideas cept to get a possum.  They like squirls, cats,
    small dogs...........
    
    Gin
47.464Where did it go?SWAM2::MASSEY_VII don't know, he's shooting blanks!Wed Sep 29 1993 14:195
    Is there a Digital office in Australia?  If so, what is the site code
    and the DTN?  I can't find it anywhere.....
    
    
    Gin
47.465come backHBAHBA::HAASBroons roolzWed Sep 29 1993 14:204
Pick a city and there's a_office. In fact there's a couple three pages of
offices.

TTom
47.466CAM3::WAYJade is COOL....Wed Sep 29 1993 14:289
>                   -< But how do you get rid of the possum? >-

A wolf-dog.

He's good with squirrels, possum, woodchucks.   He's been skunked twice
but came up empty-handed.....


'Saw
47.467Can't Find Ya in ELFAKOCOA::J_RODOPOULOSWed Sep 29 1993 14:407
    Gin,
    
    Give me a ring on the Digital Australia issue.  My DTN is 244-6676.
    I could probably help you out.  
    
    John "D Cowboys" R.
    
47.468G'day mateOURGNG::RIGGENJeff Riggen 592-5249Wed Sep 29 1993 15:192
SNO and STL are the Sydney Australia site codes....

47.469Here I come.SWAM2::MASSEY_VII don't know, he's shooting blanks!Wed Sep 29 1993 15:4411
    Thanks for the Aussie info.  
    
    I found the page in the Directory.  I must be a bit blonde today.
    
    
    Gin
    
    Look out world, I found a Dallas ally!!!
    
    
    
47.471PFSVAX::JACOBFollow your heart, and nothing elseWed Sep 29 1993 19:1516
    
    >>Dear JaKe,
    
    >>Is there a toenail fairy?  I'd rather not risk Gail's wrath putting it
    >>under the pillow without there being some reasonable expectation of reward.
    
    >>Sid
    
    NOpe, no toenail fairy.  Toenails are meant to be chewed off and spit
    on the floor so's when ya gots to take a leak at 3 am ya step on it and
    it feels like ya steppen on a freakin knitting needle.
    
    Schnortt Schitt Schlepps
    
    JaKe
    
47.472SSAG::SNYDERSet your chickens freeWed Sep 29 1993 23:3815
    Ahhh, JaKe, you misunderstand.  I'm not talking about toenail
    *clippings*.  I'm talking about the whole bloody nail.  I lost the one
    from the big toe on my left foot last night, and I expect to lose 3
    more over the next couple weeks.
    
    TCM, you'd be amazed what other lowlifes are sneaking around at the wee
    hours of the morning.  You're not alone.  As a police officer in
    Houston said to me to encourage me to find some other place to be: 
    "Once the sun goes down, the rats and cockroaches come out."
    
    And Gin, in case you're still not satisfied with whatever you needed
    about Australia, there's a notes conference (of course) dedicated to
    the lands down under at QUOKKA::OZ (KP7 and all that jazz).
    
    Sid
47.473PFSVAX::JACOBFollow your heart, and nothing elseThu Sep 30 1993 00:0128
    
    >>Ahhh, JaKe, you misunderstand.  I'm not talking about toenail
    >>*clippings*.  I'm talking about the whole bloody nail.  I lost the one
    >>from the big toe on my left foot last night, and I expect to lose 3
    >>more over the next couple weeks.
    
    Geez Sid, why didn'tcha tell me that in the firsted place.
    
    That's not just a toe nail, that's a prankster toenail.
    
    Save that puppy, and all subsequent losses that ya say are imminent. 
    Wait til the time is right, like when ya go to an Italian restaurant,
    er somewhere that serves mashed potatos.  When Gail ain't looking, slip
    them things onto the top of her potatos, or on her pasta, and as soon
    as she looks back, give a big EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEWWW!!!  Lookit there.
    
    Bet you cain eat free fer life at that place(although she'll never
    accompany ya again) after the waiter, Maitre De, chef, dishwasher,
    owner, owner's mother etc. apologize to ya.
    
    Not as good as the time the guy put his false eye in his blind date's
    mashed potatos, but almost as effective.
    
    BTW, be prepared to get the "silent treatment" fer a while.  Small
    price to pay fer such results, though.
    
    JaKe
    
47.474CTHQ::MCCULLOUGHMelanie is one year old!!!Thu Sep 30 1993 11:588
Sid

I'm running a "mere" marathon thised weekend.  I ususually lose a couple of 
toenails doing this myself.  Perhaps we could start a toenail exchange, and
mail them to one another.  Or maybe we could start a toenail bank for the 
toenail challenged.

=Bob=
47.475SSAG::SNYDERSet your chickens freeFri Oct 01 1993 12:0121
    re: .-2  (JaKe)
    
    I knew this was the right place to ask.
    
    re: .-1  (=Bob=)
    
    Send me your address and we can get this exchange thing going.  It'd be
    better than nothing.  I got stiffed by the fairy (bet nobody's game to
    touch that one!).
    
    When's the marathon?  When I'm still too injured to actually run in a
    race, I get vicarious thrills following a race in absentia, thinking
    about what I would expect some other runner to be feeling at the
    various points of the race; e.g., if it's an hour and a half into the
    marathon, I'll figure you're at about mile 15 and still feeling fine,
    but steeling for the more interesting miles just ahead.  At the risk of
    sounding too cosmic, I sometimes think that someone else's positive
    vibes at the right times can make a difference.  Anyway, have fun and
    don't throw your toenails away.
    
    Sid
47.476CTHQ::MCCULLOUGHMelanie is one year old!!!Fri Oct 01 1993 16:1312
Sid 

Set your alarm clock, the race starts at 8:00 AM EDT.  

I have no great plans for this one, just hopign to get a buddy of mine in at 
under 3:15 (that's three hours, not three days).  There is supposed to be a 
hill in this one at 13 miles, so be sending those vibes at aroun 9:30 or so. 

I'll have to bring a special jar for my toenails.  I remeber being devastated 
as a small boy, wehn my older sister told me there was no toenail fairy.

=Bob=
47.477?CSTEAM::FARLEYCarol's wearing maternity clothesWed Oct 06 1993 20:0120
    
    JaKe,
    
    Ah needs a_answer to thisted question.
    
    Remember Digger_the_Goat_dawg?  Well, at night when I walk around the
    yard, I'm always stepping in his land mines.  :*(
    Plus Carol doesn't appreciate the smell or stains on the rugs.
    
    So, anyway, I'm thinking of breaking upen one of those "glo stick"
    thingies and putting it in da_goat_dawgs food supply.  Ya see
    I think that when it comes out the other end, the land mines will glow
    and I can avoid stepping in deep doo doo!  
    
    Ya know if that glow stuff is toxic?
    
    I remain,
    Macgyvering around the land mine
    Kev
    
47.478 :*) GENRAL::WADEPull!Wed Oct 06 1993 20:216
    
    Jake,
    
    	Why is Kev so goofy?
    
    Claybone
47.479PFSVAX::JACOBUmgwana Cik BuudieWed Oct 06 1993 20:2412
    
    >>Ya know if that glow stuff is toxic?
    
    Don't think it is to HUMANS, but to digger, it'd probably not only make
    his "land mines" glow, but it'd probably change the boquet of them so
    that it'd warn people fer about 1/2 mile that there was something in
    the area worse than a skunk.  Ya know, NUCLEAR TURDS!!!!!!
    
    Schnorttt Schittt Schlepps
    
    JaKe
    
47.480PFSVAX::JACOBUmgwana Cik BuudieWed Oct 06 1993 20:2612
    
    >>Jake,
    
    >>	Why is Kev so goofy?
    
    Me thinks it may be from the effect of too much contact with
    Digger-Da-Goat-Dog's soon to be nuclear droppings.
    
    SOundl logical too me.
    
    JaKe
    
47.481well?SSAG::SNYDERSet your chickens freeFri Oct 08 1993 23:288
> I have no great plans for this one, just hopign to get a buddy of mine in at 
> under 3:15 (that's three hours, not three days).  There is supposed to be a 
> hill in this one at 13 miles, so be sending those vibes at aroun 9:30 or so. 
    
    So, how did it go?  I sent vibes at 9:33 for the hill and 11:07 for the
    final push.  Hope they helped.
    
    Sid
47.482USCTR1::KINGLook, I can hear what you are thinking.....Sat Oct 09 1993 02:194
    The wife turns 40 this Wednesday, Should I get some black condoms that
    glow in the dark to celebrate her birthday?
    
    REK
47.483(8^0PTOVAX::JACOBBaldHead=SolarPanel 4 A SexMachineSat Oct 09 1993 03:287
    re.482
    
    I didn't know they made black ones that glow in the dark.  Get the
    edible condoms and edible stuff fer her too.  
    
    JaKe
    
47.484CTHQ::MCCULLOUGHMelanie is one year old!!!Tue Oct 12 1993 17:1236
47.485LAGUNA::MAY_BRAin't no cure for the overseed bluesTue Oct 12 1993 17:165
    
    Does a 3:25:40 count as a 3:25?
    
    sign me,
    confused, but not dazed
47.486CTHQ::MCCULLOUGHMelanie is one year old!!!Tue Oct 12 1993 19:374
47.48716421::HEISERvisualize whirled peasWed Oct 13 1993 13:496
    I have a BIL that works as a counselor in a juvie detention center.  He
    mentioned the other day that it seems every kid in there is named Josh,
    Eli, or Jake.  Be sure you fathers-to-be cross out these names from the
    list.
    
    Jake were you ever in prison? ;-)
47.488USCTR1::KINGLook, I can hear what you are thinking.....Wed Oct 13 1993 14:524
    Re:487 Dunno if Jake was ever in the joint, BUT some of the things he
    puts in here is a crime and he should be put in prison!!!! :-}
    
    REK
47.489PFSVAX::JACOBWed Oct 13 1993 15:2811
    
    >>Jake were you ever in prison? ;-)
    
    For about 15 minutes once.  My Dad's uncle was a detective and he was
    giving us the nickel tour of the jail where he works, and while showing
    us a cell, he slammed the door on us and left us for about 15 minutes.
    
    REK, DO ME!!!!!!!!!  (8^)
    
    JaKe
    
47.490USCTR1::KINGLook, I can hear what you are thinking.....Wed Oct 13 1993 15:345
    Jake, I bet you wouldn't say that to Mike Tyson!!!!
    
    REK
    
    :-}
47.491(8^)PFSVAX::JACOBa 1993=The year of BAD OFFICIATINGWed Oct 13 1993 15:439
    
>><<< Note 47.490 by USCTR1::KING "Look, I can hear what you are thinking....." >>>

>>    Jake, I bet you wouldn't say that to Mike Tyson!!!!
    
    Not now that he's been in prison I wouldn't, that's fer sure.  
    
    JaKe
    
47.492Dear JaKe......CSTEAM::FARLEYCarol's wearing maternity clothesFri Oct 15 1993 17:3524
    
    
    	JAKE!!!!!!
    
    	A couple of years ago I got invited to a Haloweenie costume party
    so I made my own costume.  I took a bunch of aluminum flashing and made
    rolls out of them and used duct tape to keep 'm looking like logs.
    Then I bought as 8" funnel and a kiddy clownface mask which I spray
    painted with aluminum paint.  Same thing to a pair of old hush puppies.
    Put a little duct tape around my elbows and knees, slid the aluminum
    rolls up and put the big barrel shaped tube over my torso.
    
    Basically, I went as the Tin Man.  Looked great!
    
    Anyway, this year I think I wanna go as a candy corn.  You know, one of
    those orange/white/brown candy things but I can't figure out how to
    get that "triangle" look, or how I'm gonna paint it.
    
    Got any ideas?
    
    I remain,
    corny about candy!
    Kev
    
47.493:^)CNTROL::CHILDSthems that die are the lucky onesFri Oct 15 1993 17:393
 You already have the point at the top so the rest should be easy...I'd
 suggest cardboard for the rest of the costume....
47.494nope....CSTEAM::FARLEYCarol's wearing maternity clothesFri Oct 15 1993 17:4712
    
    	Thanks a lot Mikey but you missed one thing.
    
    I need the point at the bottom 'cause o' my oversized pernicular
    appendage!
    
    ;^)
    
    I remain,
    the HULK of ::sports!
    Kev
    
47.495CAM3::WAYYou can't polish a turdFri Oct 15 1993 18:0826
Jake,

I'm still having a problem debating that Fire Department thang.

Last weekend, I was at a parade with one former firefighter, and one
guy who's in the HFD right now.  We were checking out the apparatus
(once a firefighter, always a firefighter, and the apparatus holds a 
fascination that runs deep).

We got talking pump operation.  I was never a very good pump operator but
I do remember most of the techniques, and as the three of us were shooting
the shinola,  I felt something I haven't felt in here (at DEC) for a 
long time -- camaraderie.

Afterwards, I was talking with Tommy (the guy from HFD) and he was telling
me that I could get in and take the test, I wasn't too old.


I've been mulling this over in my head for a while, and I'd hate starting
anywhere at the bottom again.  But the old rush is there.  The adrenalin
just thinking about being on the hose line again, just thinking about
the heat and the smoke and the bitch of a job that it is....

Any advice, Jake?

'Saw
47.496PATE::MACNEALruck `n' rollFri Oct 15 1993 18:145
    'Saw, I keep tellin' ya, start playing rugby again.  That'll take care
    of everything.
    
    And let's please keep the discussion about apparatus and pumping to a
    minimum.  There are the Corporate policies to consider.
47.497Huh?CSTEAM::FARLEYCarol's wearing maternity clothesFri Oct 15 1993 18:2020
    
>>>    And let's please keep the discussion about apparatus and pumping to a
						  ^^^^^^^^^
    
    					Isn't them the veggies that GHB
    					won't eat?  I don't remember
    					anybody talking veggies or
    					politics.....
    
    
    ;^)
    
    I remain,
    always been a eater of vegetables!
    Kev
        
    
    
    
    
47.498CAM3::WAYYou can't polish a turdFri Oct 15 1993 18:2822
>    'Saw, I keep tellin' ya, start playing rugby again.  That'll take care
>    of everything.

Not really.  Firefighting puts a needle in like rugby does, but it's
a different sort of a needle.

    
>    And let's please keep the discussion about apparatus and pumping to a
>    minimum.  There are the Corporate policies to consider.

MPO - Motor Pump Operator.  They're the guys who get the water to the
guys on the hose.

Apparatus -- firefighter lingo for engines and ladders......


I never liked doing ladder work much -- unless it was search and rescue.
The rest of ladder work sorta sucks.  (pulling ceilings, checking for fire 
extension, ventilation)


'Saw
47.499get a room ;-)16421::HEISERvisualize whirled peasFri Oct 15 1993 18:351
    Something tells me that 'Saw is setting up a discussion with Gin.
47.500he's too late!CSTEAM::FARLEYCarol's wearing maternity clothesFri Oct 15 1993 18:468
    
    	Yabbut /don's already with Brandy and I'll bet they're in a room
    already!
    
    I remain,
    wishin I had a video
    Kev
    
47.501CAM3::WAYYou can't polish a turdFri Oct 15 1993 18:4911
>                              -< get a room ;-) >-
>
>    Something tells me that 'Saw is setting up a discussion with Gin.

No, actually not.   She don't note in here much any more I guess...

Actually, I was being pretty serious.....


'Saw

47.502ya think she's mad at us? Skeered?CSTEAM::FARLEYCarol's wearing maternity clothesFri Oct 15 1993 18:511
    
47.503CAM3::WAYYou can't polish a turdFri Oct 15 1993 18:579
>                    -< ya think she's mad at us?  Skeered? >-

I dunno.  


'Saw

    

47.504PFSVAX::JACOBa 1993=The year of BAD OFFICIATINGFri Oct 15 1993 19:0210
    re.497
    Kev,
    
    One amll tidbit of advice.  Make sure they're strapped in their
    "chair".  It's tough when they fall out on the floor and get hurt.
    
    Saw, I'll research it fer ya and get back to ya.
    
    JaKe
    
47.505DECWET::METZGERAsk me if I care.Fri Oct 15 1993 20:235
Join a volunteer dept and make sure it's what you want to do. Or join a search
and rescue operation and do both...

Metz
47.506QUASER::JACKSONTAReal man's sport has started!Fri Oct 15 1993 20:499
      'Saw, you sure you have your order correct?
    
      Hose, heat then smoke?
    
      Shouldn't it be Heat, hose then smoke?
    
      many (-)
    
      Tim
47.507CAM3::WAYYou can't polish a turdMon Oct 18 1993 12:0210
>
>Join a volunteer dept and make sure it's what you want to do. Or join a search
>and rescue operation and do both...
>

Been there, done that.   Was thinking of takin' it to the next level.....


'Saw

47.508I don't get mad.SWAM2::MASSEY_VII don't know, he's shooting blanks!Mon Oct 18 1993 14:1410
    I'm not mad at anyone (anymore).  I just actually had some work to do
    and just couldn't spend all my time here thinking up things to say.
    
    Hey 'Saw! I have some ladder work you could do and I bet you wouldn't
    mind pulling your hose up it either.
    
    Ha!!! I kill me!!!
    
    
    Gin
47.509LAGUNA::MAY_BRAin't no cure for the overseed bluesMon Oct 18 1993 14:2312
    
    One of the guys I play volleyball with is a captain on the Phoenix FD. 
    We're always giving him a bad time about the FACT that all they do all
    day is lay around and play basketball (not REAL work like a salesman
    does, fer instance).  Anyway, after the game were sitting around having
    a few beers and discussing our latest victory.  His beeper goes off,
    and another guy on the team yells over "what's wrong, only got 9 guys
    for the basketball game at the fire station?"
    
    guess you hadda be there and have had a few of the beers.
    
    brews 
47.510CAM3::WAYYou can't polish a turdMon Oct 18 1993 14:2312
>    
>    Hey 'Saw! I have some ladder work you could do and I bet you wouldn't
>    mind pulling your hose up it either.
>    

Ladder men always have a tool.   If you needed rescuin' I'm sure I could
overcome my dislike for ladder work long enough to rescue you....  

8^)

    

47.511USCTR1::KINGLook, I can hear what you are thinking.....Mon Oct 18 1993 14:574
    Saw pulls hose film at 11:00... 12:00...1:00
    
    
    REK
47.512CAMONE::WAYYou can't polish a turdMon Oct 18 1993 15:199
>
>    Saw pulls hose film at 11:00... 12:00...1:00
>    
    
Correct terminology is "hump hose".....


hth,
'Saw
47.513CNTROL::CHILDSthems that die are the lucky onesMon Oct 18 1993 15:324
didn't have to be there Brews, your buddy's got a quick wit......

haha
47.514gosh, i must have missed that one.SWAM2::MASSEY_VII don't know, he's shooting blanks!Mon Oct 18 1993 16:374
    So you have a humpin hose?  Gee 'Saw, this calls for another visit to
    the East coast.  Pencil me in!!!
    
    Gin
47.515I knew those years in GFD 3 were good for something....CAM3::WAYYou can't polish a turdMon Oct 18 1993 16:4012
>    So you have a humpin hose?  

That's Engine work -- humpin' hose, and puttin' out the fire.

Ladder work is using a tool, checkin' for fire extension, and rescuing 
damsels in distress...


>Gee 'Saw, this calls for another visit to
>    the East coast.  Pencil me in!!!
    
Name the time, ba-bee.........
47.516SWAM2::MASSEY_VII don't know, he's shooting blanks!Mon Oct 18 1993 16:414
    I dont' know 'Saw, you just wont fall into any of the leading comments
    that I am making.  Maybe you don't miss me enough yet.
    
    gin
47.517Better LAY a line for this one.....CAM3::WAYYou can't polish a turdMon Oct 18 1993 16:4520
>
>    I dont' know 'Saw, you just wont fall into any of the leading comments
>    that I am making.  Maybe you don't miss me enough yet.
    


Gin, you got a fire that needs puttin' out?   I still make house calls.
Why don't you give me that address and we'll just see how much I miss
you.....

I'm sure I'll get there and it'll be "fully involved" with "smoke showin'"


After I've taken care of the fire, I'll tell you why firefighters don't
like to talk about "falling into" anything.....


'Saw


47.518ROYALT::ASHELivin' in the fridge...Mon Oct 18 1993 16:494
    So 'Saw, are you more the Randolph Mantooth type or the other guy on 
    Emergency?
    
    Walt (who never really saw what the big deal was with Julie London)
47.519Thought I'd share this. How special!CSC32::GAULKEMon Oct 18 1993 16:5018
    
    
    
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Note 7700.0                     RABBITS FOR SALE                      No replies
COOKIE::L_KING                                        9 lines  14-OCT-1993 08:33
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Lynda King
    CXO2-1/7A
    DTN 522-2820
    COOKIE::L_KING <----- PREFERRED WAY
    
    4 rabbits for sale.  Both does and bucks.  6 months old.  Ready to breed
    or eat.  Recipes included.  $5.00 each.  
    
    Second litter of 9 is four months old.  $4.00 each.
47.520Better call in a second alarm. Who's second due on this box?CAM3::WAYYou can't polish a turdMon Oct 18 1993 17:1023
>    So 'Saw, are you more the Randolph Mantooth type or the other guy on 
>    Emergency?

They were the paradmedic guys.  Now I have all sorts of respect for them,
but I always liked the other guys (Kelly, and whoever) who actually
did some firefightin'....

    
>    Walt (who never really saw what the big deal was with Julie London)

Julie London used to be married (at one point in time) to Jack Webb.
Supposedly, she had a 40-inch chest, but you can't tell from the re-runs.
She was married to Bobby Troupe (the white haired doctor) at the time
of the series.....




So Gin, I "fall into" one of those comments and you disappear.  Maybe
you don't miss ME enough......8^)


'Saw
47.521ROYALT::ASHELivin' in the fridge...Mon Oct 18 1993 17:581
    You're right, they were the paramedics...
47.522Is there a fire extinguisher in the house?QUASER::JACKSONTAReal man's sport has started!Mon Oct 18 1993 18:371
    Is there an IV DRIP COMING into this conversation?
47.523CAM3::WAYYou can't polish a turdMon Oct 18 1993 18:4414
>    Is there an IV DRIP COMING into this conversation?

Nah.  I was never qualified IV.  They started that about 6 months
after I got out.

My brother was an IV tech for a while, and he was in an area where he
had enough calls that he could keep up his number of sticks a month so
he didn't constantly have to recertify....

Besides, I'd rather deal with fire than medical if given a choice....


'Saw

47.524SWAM2::MASSEY_VII don't know, he's shooting blanks!Mon Oct 18 1993 19:406
    I don't miss anyone.......
    
    
    No IV, just a drip.
    
    Gin
47.525PTOVAX::JACOBWhat the hell is a 'hootchie-kootchie'Tue Oct 19 1993 00:167
    
    >>No IV, just a drip.
    
    Penicillin shots normally take care of the "drips".
    
    JaKe
    
47.526Kentucky windage....CAM3::WAYYou can't polish a turdTue Oct 19 1993 12:509
>
>    I don't miss anyone.......
>    


Shot a 300 then, eh?
    
    

47.527Answers for everything.SWAM2::MASSEY_VII don't know, he's shooting blanks!Tue Oct 19 1993 14:248
    Okay, I don't miss anyone's physical body.
    
    I hardly ever miss with a riffle.
    
    And I hardly ever have the drips either, JaKe.  But I can't take
    Penicillian if I do.
    
    Gin
47.528CAM3::WAYYou can't polish a turdTue Oct 19 1993 14:3216
>
>                          -< Answers for everything. >-
>

Do you know why they don't let donkeys go to school?



>
>    Okay, I don't miss anyone's physical body.
>    

I don't either...at least not when I'm right on.


'Saw
47.529SWAM2::MASSEY_VII don't know, he's shooting blanks!Tue Oct 19 1993 16:389
    The question should be.
    
    Do I care.
    
    The answer is.
    
    No.
    
    
47.530From the CLASSIC SNL sketch....CAM3::WAYYou can't polish a turdTue Oct 19 1993 16:4212
>    The question should be.
>    
>    Do I care.
>    
>    The answer is.
>    
>    No.


I knew that.  What makes you think I didn't know that.  I knew that....    
    

47.531I give upSWAM2::MASSEY_VII don't know, he's shooting blanks!Tue Oct 19 1993 20:544
    I didnt' think you didn't know that.  I was just making sure that there
    was no missunderstanding.
    
    Gin
47.532JaKe does this sound like trouble in Paradise?MSE1::FRANCUSMets in '94Tue Oct 19 1993 21:543
    
    The Crazy Met
    
47.533no problemsSWAM2::MASSEY_VII don't know, he's shooting blanks!Tue Oct 19 1993 22:295
    Nah, just a bit of a bad day coming to the surface.
    
    Gin
    
    
47.534Problems? Hardly....CAMTWO::WAYYou can't polish a turdThu Oct 21 1993 14:369
>                                -< no problems >-
Agreed....


>    Nah, just a bit of a bad day coming to the surface.
    
I don't know one way or another about that, but I was just jousting
a bit -- kind of like I'll do with my buddies over beers....    

47.535JaKe I gotta knowCSTEAM::FARLEYCarol's wearing maternity clothesThu Oct 21 1993 19:0328
    
    Yabbut JaKe,
    
    I got's to ask ya if'n this is one of the funniest things you've ever
    seen in your whole life.
    
    
    
    
    Really, really what do you think about this?
    
    I remain,
    giggling over this
    Kev
    
    
    
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AUSTIN::MACNEAL "Big Mac"                             2 lines  15-DEC-1989 10:54
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Since this is a favorite topic of one of the moderators (ME), junk
    noting will not be tolerated here.
    
    
    
47.536PFSVAX::JACOBTouch the beard, I'll break yer arm!Thu Oct 21 1993 19:109
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
    
    No junk noting in a note about a "junk" sport!!!!!
    
    
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
    
    JaKe
    
47.537???????CSTEAM::FARLEYCarol's wearing maternity clothesTue Oct 26 1993 13:4223
    
    Yabbut in regard to "junk" noting, JaKe, I dunno why, but Ah been
    scratching my haid ever since Friday and it ain't cause I don't use
    Haid 'n Shoulders!
    
    This seems to be the #3 clue and I guess I'm not gonna quit my day job
    to become da new Sherlock and I gots ta know.......
    
    What's dat one mean???
    
PFSVAX::JACOB "Instigator of SantaScam '93"          10 lines  26-OCT-1993 10:36
              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    
    ps - How's da beard?  Nathan wearing a cast on his arm?
    
    
    
    I remain,
    of sharp eyesight.....
    Kev
    
    
        
47.538Just a Innocent College Prank # IIPFSVAX::JACOBInstigator of SantaScam '93Tue Oct 26 1993 13:5265
Ok Kev, I'll explain what it means:
    
    1 p_name of "Pulls the beard, I break yer arm
    
    2 p_name of "all the babes that'll be there"
    
    3 p_name of "Instigator of SantaScam '93"
    
    Yer just too much of a Sherlock Holmes fer me, Kev, here goes:
    
    
    
    
>>Well, I didn't feel like starting a new note when this one would do.

Just didn't know where to put this.  This was first place I found, but maybe
not the best now that I think of it.

>>I've accepted a new job and will start as of Nov. 13, 1993.  I will be in here
>>as late as the 12th of November before starting my new job, which is in a whole
>>new field, compared to fixing these damned computers.  I had my final interview
>>yesterday, after which they offered me the job immediately, and I accepted. 
>>I'll be working in a pretty big establishment here in Pittsburgh, dealing with
>>a bunch of smaller customers.

>>    It's a division of Oxford Development Co.
                   
>>    re.90
    
>>    Some stuff realted to sales, but mostly customer relations and
>>    satisfaction related stuff with their smaller customers.
                                                               
I have no idea why everybody's getting so freakin BLEARY EYED over in 130.*.

Hell, the "big establishment" is the Monroeville Mall, owned by Oxford
Development Co.

The "sutff related to sales", if the parents don't like the pictures, they
won't buy them, so the pictures mean sales!!!

Customer relations and "smaller customers" means

I'M SANTA CLAUS at the mall this year(one of 6 part timers) in my free time.

Never said I was leaving Digital, ya know!!!!   (8^)

>>I've enjoyed all my time in this notesfile, and don't know what I'd have done 
>>over the past 5 or 6 years without it, probably have gotten some REAL work done.
>>(8^)

All very true, ::SPORTS has made it endurable, no, make that ENJOYABLE.

>>================================================================================
>>Note 130.111           NanananaNanananaHeyHeyHey...Goodbye            111 of 118
>>PATE::MACNEAL "ruck `n' roll"                         2 lines  25-OCT-1993 16:43
>>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>    Jake, we didn't need a 3 week notice.  3 hours would have been
>>    sufficient.

Mac, I figgered the three days is enough.

But, thanks fer the show of emotion, guys.

JaKe

47.539CSTEAM::FARLEYCarol's wearing maternity clothesTue Oct 26 1993 13:5811
    
>>    Yer just too much of a Sherlock Holmes fer me, Kev, here goes:
                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    
    
    Thanks but I'd rather be Johnny
    
    
    
    ;^)
    
47.540METSNY::francusMets in '94Tue Oct 26 1993 14:233
There ya go JaKe spoiling Mac's day.

The Crazy Met
47.541Glad you arent leaving bud.SWAM2::MASSEY_VII don't know, he's shooting blanks!Tue Oct 26 1993 15:4614
    So what you are saying is you let everyone that entered a heart felt
    note to you actually believe you were leaving.  I mean, I never got an
    explaination off line from you either.  And here I am thinking you are
    one of the best people I have met in a long time.  I spill my guts to
    you, take and follow your advice and you betray my trust by making me
    go on and on about you like some ego starved bastard!  Well thanks a
    lot!!!
    
    
    Gin
    
    ps and I even signed it with my full name.  I NEVER do that.
    
    
47.542PATE::MACNEALruck `n' rollTue Oct 26 1993 15:471
    String him up.
47.543PFSVAX::JACOBInstigator of SantaScam '93Tue Oct 26 1993 15:5813
    
    >>So what you are saying is you let everyone that entered a heart felt
    >>note to you actually believe you were leaving.  I mean, I never got an
    
    Who said I was leaving????  I NEVER said I was leaving!!!!
    
    I only said I had a "New Job", which, playing Santa Claus is a new job
    to me.
    
    (8^)
    
    JaKe
    
47.544SWAM2::MASSEY_VII don't know, he's shooting blanks!Tue Oct 26 1993 16:048
    But you let it go on for 3 days.  You let everyone go on and on.  I
    know it's not been 3 days since you were last here so you saw all the
    notes.
    
    Well, it's not for me to decide.  I guess I'll have to start being a
    bit more careful when choosing friends over the net.
    
    Gin
47.545PFSVAX::JACOBInstigator of SantaScam '93Tue Oct 26 1993 16:0716
    
 >> <<< Note 47.544 by SWAM2::MASSEY_VI "I don't know, he's shooting blanks!" >>>

 >>   But you let it go on for 3 days.  You let everyone go on and on.  I
 >>   know it's not been 3 days since you were last here so you saw all the
 >>   notes.
    
    Uh, er, um, my screen went blank everytime a note starting with 130.
    came up...er...showed up as set hidden, yeah,m that's the ticket,
    everything showed up in 130.* as set hidden, probably a mod trying to
    keep me from feeling encouraged, yeah that's the ticket!!!
    
    Many (8^)'s
    
    JaKe
    
47.546MKFSA::LONGDEC, get outa VN, NOW!Tue Oct 26 1993 16:114
	I think it may be time to call in prospective jurors.


	billl
47.547PFSVAX::JACOBInstigator of SantaScam '93Tue Oct 26 1993 16:166
    re.546
    
    Ah I did no wrong, liverlips.
    
    JaKe
    
47.548METSNY::francusMets in '94Tue Oct 26 1993 16:226
re: .546

no need for a jury on this one. JaKe, will be guilty of whatever
he is charged with.

The Crazy Met
47.549METSNY::francusMets in '94Tue Oct 26 1993 16:273
and while we're at it Kev is named as a co-defendant.

The Crazy Met
47.550heheheheheheCSTEAM::FARLEYCarol's wearing maternity clothesTue Oct 26 1993 16:401
    
47.551METSNY::francusMets in '94Tue Oct 26 1993 16:434
laugh now Kev! Maybe we'll be lenient with you because your wife
is expecting, but JaKe ....

The Crazy Met
47.552I dont' like Kev either.SWAM2::MASSEY_VII don't know, he's shooting blanks!Tue Oct 26 1993 17:037
    OH great!!!  So Kev was in on this too?  Gee Jake, so this was a scam
    all along.  You meant to lead everyone into believing you were leaving. 
    You just feed on that don't you?  Wassamattah, not getting enough
    attention lately?  Sounds like a personal problem, why don't you keep
    it that way.
    
    Gin
47.553PFSVAX::JACOBInstigator of SantaScam '93Tue Oct 26 1993 17:1710
    
>>laugh now Kev! Maybe we'll be lenient with you because your wife
>>is expecting, but JaKe ....
    
    Maybe my wife isn't expecting, but my girlfriend just called and......
    
    Oh boy
    
    JaKe
    
47.554METSNY::francusMets in '94Tue Oct 26 1993 17:226
Gin,

woooah there. don't take this soooo personally. this is definitely the wrong
notesfile to take things personally.

The Crazy Met
47.555METSNY::francusMets in '94Tue Oct 26 1993 17:223
JaKester, be careful we all have your home address and phone number :-)

The Crazy Met
47.556I never take anything personally.SWAM2::MASSEY_VII don't know, he's shooting blanks!Tue Oct 26 1993 17:366
    I don't and I want it!!  Give me that address.
    
    I will send a suicidal Vermont teddy bear to his house.
    
    
    Gin
47.557METSNY::francusMets in '94Tue Oct 26 1993 17:423
nah, JaKe will have to give you that information. 

The Crazy Met
47.558I could!!!! ;^)CSTEAM::FARLEYCarol's wearing maternity clothesTue Oct 26 1993 17:457
    
    
    Yabbut,
    
    
    as da official keeper of da LIST
    
47.559e-mail would be fineCSTEAM::FARLEYCarol's wearing maternity clothesTue Oct 26 1993 17:4810
    
    
    Yabbut btw,
    
    I don't have yours and if turnaround is fair play......
    
    I remain,
    da original creator of Da List!
    Kev
    
47.560METSNY::francusMets in '94Tue Oct 26 1993 17:507
Kev,

seeing as you are an indicted co-conspirator I don't think that
giving it away would be in your best interest. Honor among
thieves and all that slop ...

The Crazy Met
47.561JaKe... You're scumm !!!QUASER::HUNTERHow Do You Spell Win... G L Y NTue Oct 26 1993 19:0710
    
     Ha !!!  I guess this debachle is one good thing about being to busy
    to note these days...  I'm glad I didn't get the opportunity to make
    a fool out of my self for JaKe like the rest of you seem to have done
    (not that I wouldn't have given the chance).  I I were You-all...  I'd
    hang da-bum from the tallest tree...
    
    BG
    
    
47.562METSNY::francusMets in '94Tue Oct 26 1993 19:185
> I'd hang da-bum from the tallest tree...

much. much too lenient; wouldn't you say?

The Crazy Met
47.563CTHQ::LEARYCorporate Telecom Technology SolutionsTue Oct 26 1993 19:2110
    
    Simple solution.
    
    After XMAS, send Santa to the North Pole, elves and all. He can toss
    them fer fun.
    
    Hope that red suit keeps ya warm...
    
    MikeL
    
47.564MSE1::FRANCUSMets in '94Tue Oct 26 1993 19:2760
    JaKe a bunch for questions for you:
    


	Why do you need a driver's license to buy
	liquor when you can't drink and drive?

	Why isn't phonetic spelled the way it sounds?

	Why are there interstate highways in Hawaii?

	Why are there flotation devices under plane
	seats instead of parachutes?

	Why are cigarettes sold in gas stations when
	smoking is prohibited there?

	Do you need a silencer if you are going to
	shoot a mime?

	Have you ever imagined a world with no
	hypothetical situations?

	How does the guy who drives the snowplow
	get to work in the mornings?

	If 7-11 is open 24 hours a day, 365 days a year,
	why are there locks on the doors?

	If a cow laughed, would milk come out her nose?

	If nothing ever sticks to TEFLON, how do they
	make TEFLON stick to the pan?

	If you tied buttered toast to the back of a cat
	and dropped it from a height, what would happen?

	If you're in a vehicle going the speed of light,
	what happens when you turn on the headlights?

	You know how most packages say "Open here".  What is
	the protocol if the package says, "Open somewhere else"?
	
	Why do they put Braille dots on the keypad
   	of the drive-up ATM?

   	Why do we drive on parkways and park on driveways?

   	Why is brassiere singular and panties plural?

   	Why is it that when you transport something by car, it's called a
   	shipment, but when you transport something by ship, it's called cargo?

   	You know that little indestructible black box that is used on planes,
   	why can't they make the whole plane out of the same substance?

   	Why is it that when you're driving and looking for
  	 an address, you turn down the volume on the radio?

    
47.565How's that?SWAM2::MASSEY_VII don't know, he's shooting blanks!Tue Oct 26 1993 19:2711
47.566PFSVAX::JACOBWolf, Wolf, Wolf...Tue Oct 26 1993 19:2915
    
    >>                 -< I never take anything personally. >-

    Right.  Ya seem to have taken my little innocent prank seriously!!
    
    >>I don't and I want it!!  Give me that address.
    
    Not on yer life, ma'am.
    
    >>I will send a suicidal Vermont teddy bear to his house.
    
    In return, I'll send ya a sense of humor.
    
    JaKe
    
47.567ZING!!!!!!CSTEAM::FARLEYCarol's wearing maternity clothesTue Oct 26 1993 19:316
    
    Yabbut ya shudda signed that one
    
    JaKe_for_Tommy!
    
    
47.568I'll send you sumtin Mister!!SWAM2::MASSEY_VII don't know, he's shooting blanks!Tue Oct 26 1993 19:327
    Well well, he comes back for more.  
    
    Umm, are you serious about all that or is it one of your little jokes?
    
    Gin
    
    
47.569METSNY::francusMets in '94Tue Oct 26 1993 19:375
JaKe never jokes about a sense of humor.

HtH,

The Crazy Met
47.570MKFSA::LONGDEC, get outa VN, NOW!Tue Oct 26 1993 20:0013
>>	Why do they put Braille dots on the keypad
>>   	of the drive-up ATM?

	When I first saw one of these I figured it must just be a generic
	type system that is used for both walk-up and drive-up.  Then the
	drive-up ATM I use added the Braille dots on the keypad along the
	dots on the side for instructions as an upgrade.

	I nearly busted a gut laughing at the puchasing dope that must
	have special ordered it.


	billl
47.571PFSVAX::JACOBWolf, Wolf, Wolf...Wed Oct 27 1993 02:4920
    
>>  <<< Note 47.568 by SWAM2::MASSEY_VI "I don't know, he's shooting blanks!" >>>
>>                       -< I'll send you sumtin Mister!! >-

    Promises, promises...
    
    >>Well well, he comes back for more.  
    
    >>Umm, are you serious about all that or is it one of your little jokes?
    
    
    Joking, yer the one who BLASTED me for a silly little innocent
    prank..er...miscommunication on my part, just to have some fun, and you
    jump in feet first and BLAST me.
    
    I got that SoH all packed up and ready to send Fed Ex when yer ready
    for it.
    
    JaKe
    
47.572CTHQ::MCCULLOUGHMelanie is one year old!!!Wed Oct 27 1993 12:393
re .564

Now, where have I seen this before?...
47.573METSNY::francusMets in '94Wed Oct 27 1993 13:075
I don't know. Where have you seen this before?? It is something I picked
up off the net. Just thought that these questions would let us make good
use of JaKe's wisdom and insight - yeah that's the ticket.

The Crazy Met
47.574I played into yur gameQUASER::JACKSONTAReal man's sport has started!Wed Oct 27 1993 14:3110
      Doesn't Led Zepplin have a song "Gallows Pole" from Zep 3?  Swing and
    twitch you bumm!!
    
      And BTW,  love that P_name,  you deserve it!  I see Hal or Paul got
    ya thised time..
    
      May the kids pull your beard off,  or some big kids jumps up on your
    lap and crunch, the go-nads are making you cramp.
    
      Tim
47.575I may be wrong but I do it rightSWAM2::MASSEY_VII don't know, he's shooting blanks!Wed Oct 27 1993 15:117
    JaKe,
    
    I understand your innocense in the begining but didn't you get some
    heart felt mail from people? Doesn't that show that they didn't
    understand you weren't leaving?  
    
    Gin
47.576USCTR1::KINGLook, I can hear what you are thinking.....Wed Oct 27 1993 15:154
        Actually, we are disappointed that he is staying, Now DEC stock
    won't go up.....

    REK
47.577METSNY::francusMets in '94Wed Oct 27 1993 15:303
REK go play with a pet dog.

The Crazy Met
47.578wonder if those kids who egged mitch are availableAKOCOA::BREENWed Oct 27 1993 15:351
    
47.579MKFSA::LONGDEC, get outa VN, NOW!Wed Oct 27 1993 16:297
>>    I understand your innocense in the begining 

	Gin, there in lies your first mistake!  (Well, maybe not your first,
	but at least the most recent.)


	billl
47.580PFSVAX::JACOBWolf, Wolf, Wolf...Wed Oct 27 1993 18:479
    
    >>I understand your innocense in the begining but didn't you get some
    >>heart felt mail from people? Doesn't that show that they didn't
    >>understand you weren't leaving?  
    
    Ah,  who the hell reads their mail, anyways????
    
    JaKe
    
47.581PATE::MACNEALruck `n' rollWed Oct 27 1993 18:551
    Aw Jake, just go ahead and make her happy.  Leave already will ya.
47.582PFSVAX::JACOBWolf, Wolf, Wolf...Wed Oct 27 1993 19:019
    
    >>          <<< Note 47.581 by PATE::MACNEAL "ruck `n' roll" >>>

    >>Aw Jake, just go ahead and make her happy.  Leave already will ya.
    
    Cause that would make YOU happier than her!!!
    
    JaKe
    
47.583PATE::MACNEALruck `n' rollWed Oct 27 1993 19:092
    Naw, the only way I could be happier than Gin is if you took TCM with
    you.
47.584PFSVAX::JACOBWolf, Wolf, Wolf...Wed Oct 27 1993 19:114
    He's not my type.
    
    JaKe
    
47.585SWAM2::MASSEY_VII don't know, he's shooting blanks!Wed Oct 27 1993 19:214
    Like you would know what makes me happy!!!  Jake, go fork \nasser and
    bang his poodle with a hydrant!!!
    
    Gin
47.586probably needs a translationCSTEAM::FARLEYCarol's wearing maternity clothesWed Oct 27 1993 19:4712
    
    Yabbut Uh Gin,
    
    I don't think JaKe ever visits the neighborhood where that kind of
    language is spoken so I doubt he get's it.
    
    hth
    
    I remain,
    the wanderin type!
    Kev
    
47.58716421::HEISERvisualize whirled peasWed Oct 27 1993 20:161
    Jake, if you left Mac would forget how to do a SET NOT/HID
47.588bye byeSWAM2::MASSEY_VII don't know, he's shooting blanks!Wed Oct 27 1993 20:588
    Yeah, you're right Kev.  I sometimes forget where I am, it all seems to
    be the same lately.  But you understood it, that counts for something.
    
    No matter, it's all gone to `non-MOD sensored' Email.
    
    Hey, I do requests!!!
    
    Gin
47.589PTOVAX::JACOBGO STEELERS!!!!Thu Oct 28 1993 02:595
    TCM, Go ask Stephen Wright for the answer to those questions, he's the
    one who thunk most, if not all, of em up.
    
    JaKe
    
47.590MSE1::FRANCUSMets in '94Thu Oct 28 1993 03:138
    re: .587
    
    don't worry I think that someone could come up with a few set/hidden
    type notes. wouldn't want Mac to forget a skill that was so tough for
    him to learn and perfect.
    
    The Crazy Met
    
47.591USCTR1::KINGLook, I can hear what you are thinking.....Thu Oct 28 1993 15:0110
        Jake, I need a question answered..............

    This lasted Tuesday, I sent a E-Mail message to the White House
    to wish that Bodacis Babe Hillary a very special and happy 47th
    birthday. 

    Should I expect a message back thanking me?


    REK
47.592what an old fart16421::HEISERvisualize whirled peasThu Oct 28 1993 15:061
    
47.593PFSVAX::JACOBLet mine be a voice for peaceThu Oct 28 1993 19:509
    
    >>Should I expect a message back thanking me?
    
    Nah, she may have the turkey in the Oval Office enact a tax on incoming
    E-Mail to the White House as a way of paying fer the Health Care
    debacle if peoples keep sending stuff to her.
    
    JaKe
    
47.594Jake, is that what Rush said?16421::HEISERvisualize whirled peasThu Oct 28 1993 20:321
    
47.595PFSVAX::JACOBLet mine be a voice for peaceThu Oct 28 1993 20:359
    
    >>      <<< Note 47.594 by 16421::HEISER "visualize whirled peas" >>>
    >>                   -< Jake, is that what Rush said? >-
    
    
    Rush Who????????
    
    JaKe
    
47.596Rush your hero16421::HEISERvisualize whirled peasThu Oct 28 1993 20:361
    
47.597PFSVAX::JACOBLet mine be a voice for peaceThu Oct 28 1993 20:416
    You mean Crush(ed) Phlegmball??????
    
    I have no heroes in this life, other than the man in the mirror.
    
    JaKe
    
47.598fess up.SWAM2::MASSEY_VII don't know, he's shooting blanks!Thu Oct 28 1993 20:574
    That't not what you were telling me, JaKe
    
    
    Gin
47.599PTOVAX::JACOBLet mine be a voice for peaceThu Oct 28 1993 22:0012
    
>>  <<< Note 47.598 by SWAM2::MASSEY_VI "I don't know, he's shooting blanks!" >>>
>>                                 -< fess up. >-

>>    That't not what you were telling me, JaKe
    
    OK, but I sorta didn't think it would look good to divulge what's taken
    place while we "made up" in mail, ya know???  Don't know how it would
    look, ya know???
    
    JaKe
    
47.600Gah gah gahSWAM2::MASSEY_VII don't know, he's shooting blanks!Thu Oct 28 1993 22:126
    Oh Gawd JaKe,
    
    You are right.  Those things shouldn't be talked about in a public
    forum.  But I do like what you called me in mail.
    
    Gin
47.601PTOVAX::JACOBLet mine be a voice for peaceThu Oct 28 1993 22:1413
    
    >>Oh Gawd JaKe,
    
    >>You are right.  Those things shouldn't be talked about in a public
    >>forum.  But I do like what you called me in mail.
    
    >>Gin
    
    
    Well, plus he said "Heros"m not "Heroine", ya know????
    
    JaKe
    
47.602I'm too muchSWAM2::MASSEY_VII don't know, he's shooting blanks!Thu Oct 28 1993 22:157
    Right again JaKe.
    
    You are truely my mentor.
    
    I thank you for being you.
    
    Gin
47.603PTOVAX::JACOBLet mine be a voice for peaceThu Oct 28 1993 22:2310
    
    >>I thank you for being you.
    
    >>Gin
    
    And I thank you for being you.   You sure do have a way with words, at
    least in that one mail, you know which one.
    
    JaKe
    
47.604gosta be meSWAM2::MASSEY_VINow he's not shooting at all, must be empty!Thu Oct 28 1993 22:254
    Oh gosh JaKe.  Thanks again.  Just don't let MAC get a hold of that
    one.  He would SET HIDDEN it for sure.
    
    Gin
47.605PTOVAX::JACOBLet mine be a voice for peaceThu Oct 28 1993 22:3210
    
    >>Oh gosh JaKe.  Thanks again.  Just don't let MAC get a hold of that
    >>one.  He would SET HIDDEN it for sure.
    
    WEll, I deleted it so nobocy could read it or "steal it", but not before 
    printing it out first, and I keep it folded up in my pocket close to my 
    heart.
    
    JaKe
    
47.606Most wonderful man on earthSWAM2::MASSEY_VINow he's not shooting at all, must be empty!Thu Oct 28 1993 22:378
    JaKe,
    
    You make me want to cry sometimes.  That's the sweetest thing I have
    ever heard.
    
    You make my life worth living.
    
    Gin
47.607PTOVAX::JACOBLet mine be a voice for peaceThu Oct 28 1993 22:444
    Aw shucks!!!!  (blush)
    
    JaKe
    
47.608Ptooeeeee!CSTEAM::FARLEYCarol's wearing maternity clothesThu Oct 28 1993 23:171
    
47.609GRANPA::DFAUSTWith every wish,there comes a curseThu Oct 28 1993 23:343
    Gees..... Add me to the cc: list too! This stuff must be terrific!
    GRANPA::DFAUST
    
47.610press keypad 7 or select to find out where16421::HEISERvisualize whirled peasFri Oct 29 1993 03:161
    take it to another conference!
47.611METSNY::francusMets in '94Fri Oct 29 1993 12:535
a hate fest to a love fest. ain't ::sprots wonderful.

gag!

The Crazy Met
47.612Just the good partysSWAM2::MASSEY_VITime for a re-load!Fri Oct 29 1993 14:2213
    You all just jealous.
    
    
    back to the topic.
    
    JaKe,
    
    I lost that information you game me yesterday.  Could I 
    have it again? 
    
    Thanks
    
    Gin
47.613ROYALT::ASHELivin' in the fridge...Fri Oct 29 1993 15:455
    I'm glad we all can get along, right REK?
    
    I think this is all because the Penguin and the Mighty Duck are
    different and yet, similar.  Could this be the tie that binds?
    
47.614GENRAL::WADEPull!Fri Oct 29 1993 16:174
    
    	Geez!  You two are giving me a cavity!  Take it to LUVU2::POOKY!
    
    Claybone
47.615PFSVAX::JACOBLet mine be a voice for peaceFri Oct 29 1993 20:3012
    
    >>I lost that information you game me yesterday.  Could I 
    >>have it again?              ^^^^^
    
    Game.   Yep.
    
    BTW, you can have it anytime.
    
    It's on it's way.
    
    JaKe
    
47.616ELMAGO::BENBACAI need a career! Not a PACKAGE!Fri Oct 29 1993 22:4717
                      
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47.617This is serious!!!SWAM2::MASSEY_VITime for a re-load!Mon Nov 01 1993 14:4414
    JaKe!  JaKe!!
    
    I need some help!!! (keep the comments to yourselves)
    
    I was watching TV this Sunday, Football most of the time.
    But at one point I couldn't find any sports on at all.  I
    almost jumped off the roof.  Finally, after chanel surfing
    for about 10 minutes, I found some golf and actually WATCHED
    it!!!  Am I sick?  Do I need a doctor?  Should I just start
    taping games so that I don't have to watch Golf on TV?
    Is being a sports junky a bad thing?
    
    
    Gin
47.618ROYALT::ASHEDo you have to let it linger?Mon Nov 01 1993 15:412
    Watching golf is bad... probably worse than bowling.... better than
    curling though...
47.619PFSVAX::JACOBLet mine be a voice for peaceMon Nov 01 1993 17:195
    Either ya needs to fill in the time with some of yer own sports, or ya
    needs a better cable system.
    
    JaKe
    
47.620Have I lost it yet?SWAM2::MASSEY_VITime for a re-load!Tue Nov 02 1993 15:326
    Thanks JaKe!!!
    
    Actually, I just decided to tape various sports and watch then
    during the lul time.  It should help.  
    
    Gin
47.621MSE1::FRANCUSMets in '94Mon Nov 08 1993 17:345
    Yo JaKester, so how many little monsters pulled your beard, slobbered
    all over you, and got scared of you this lasted weekend??
    
    The Crazy Met
    
47.623METSNY::francusMets in '94Mon Nov 08 1993 17:568
actually, Karen, you might be right. JaKe's "new job" may ne starting this
weekend.

I know they are definitely out before Thanksgiving - that is sacrilege. The
Christmas shopping season should never begin before the Macy's Thanksgiving
Day parade :-)

The Crazy Met
47.624USCTR1::KINGLook, I can hear what you are thinking.....Mon Nov 08 1993 18:074
    All the "fat" santas has to start training early... :-}
    
    
    REK
47.625QUASER::JACKSONTANeed a nap? Watch tv baseball!Mon Nov 08 1993 18:192
      Well Jake should have the Ho Ho down after watching the mighty donks
    beat the browns yesterday....
47.626PFSVAX::JACOBSo close to zero groundMon Nov 08 1993 18:4815
    
    >>Yo JaKester, so how many little monsters pulled your beard, slobbered
    >>all over you, and got scared of you this lasted weekend??
    
    Now, howdja know what my kids did when I got up Saturday morning???
    
    Actually, I had to go to a meeting yesterday.  Santa-JaKe does his
    firsted shift next Sunday, the 14th, from 3-6 pm.
    
    Tim, ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLWARD!!!  Luvved the Donks squashing the
    Brown(spot)s(tm) into the painted crap surface of the Mistake by the
    Lake.
    
    JaKe
    
47.62716421::HEISERthe NBA: it's pretty darn goodWed Nov 10 1993 14:095
    Jake, who won the NL MVP yesterday for his 3rd time and what university
    did he attend?
    
    thanks,
    Mike
47.628PFSVAX::JACOBSo close to zero groundWed Nov 10 1993 18:519
    
    >>Jake, who won the NL MVP yesterday for his 3rd time and what university
    >>did he attend?
    
    Mr. Wah-Wah.  And the University he went to escapes me, but they always
    took the month of October off.
    
    JaKe
    
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47.630GWEN::ASHEDo you have to let it linger?Thu Nov 11 1993 13:0820
    Those new Bud ads are "interesting".  My roommate and I decided instead
    of a national "Harris vs. Hubbard"  "Nitchske vs Curtis" discussion,
    they should regionalize it.  Have Denny and /Saw talk  about the good
    old days and "Gray vs. Hannah".  JaKe talk about "Hanratty vs. Gilliam"
    and so forth...
    
    The tv show one was good and led to this discussion with Mike McCarthy?
    
    Maryann vs. Ginger
    
    Maryann vs. Agent 99
    
    Which Catwoman?
    
    Penelope Pitstop or Josie from Josie & the Pussycats
    
    Bailey or Jennifer?
    
    Jan or Marcia?
                  
47.631CAM3::WAYYou can't polish a turdThu Nov 11 1993 13:099
I was thinking more along the lines of /Don doing an Eddie Anvilhead
type show, with me, Denny, and Chap, and we could compare and contrast
the various dance artists we've seen at establishments such as the
Magic Lantern.

I think that would give "Wayne's World" a run for it's money.....


'Saw
47.632I'd still take a slut like GingerCNTROL::CHILDSI am airless, a vacuum childThu Nov 11 1993 13:134
 yeah but Walt they were unanimous in Genie >>>> MaryAnn....

 mike
47.633CAM3::WAYYou can't polish a turdThu Nov 11 1993 13:228
Yeah, but I've got a feeling that when she got behind the closed doors
of that hut on Gilligan's Island, Mary Ann got REALLY wild.

I'll bet she had a leather teddy hidden somewhere and we just never saw
it.....


8^)
47.634GWEN::ASHEDo you have to let it linger?Thu Nov 11 1993 15:396
    Yeah, plus, would you rather be on a deserted island or trapped in a
    bottle in Houston or Cape Canaveral.  And what if Major Nelson caught
    you?  Would you get put in solitary confinement?  Get trapped listening
    to Major Healy over and over again?
    
    Jeanie's gown is overrated.
47.635CNTROL::CHILDSI am airless, a vacuum childThu Nov 11 1993 15:5211
    
>>    Jeanie's gown is overrated.

 Some guys will say anything no matter how wrong it is to win an argument
 in here....

 ;^)

 Jeanie > Ginger > Maryann.....

 Saw, Maryann was not wild off camera...if she was we'd have seen a pictorial
47.636CAM3::WAYYou can't polish a turdThu Nov 11 1993 16:5220
|>>    Jeanie's gown is overrated.
|
| Some guys will say anything no matter how wrong it is to win an argument
| in here....

It had to cover her belly button, that's what the censor's said.


> Jeanie > Ginger > Maryann.....
>
> Saw, Maryann was not wild off camera...if she was we'd have seen a pictorial

Well, you might have a point there, but try this one on for size:


	Granny > Ellie Mae >  Jeanie > Ginger > Maryann.....


89^)

47.637PFSVAX::JACOBGonna show her my ding-dongThu Nov 11 1993 19:268
    What's Mac's list????
    
    I'd guess his is like this:
    
    Maude > Roseanne > Gilligan > Lassie 
    
    JaKe
    
47.638Just meSWAM2::MASSEY_VIHow do you stuff a live turkey?Thu Nov 11 1993 20:275
    Is it snowing yet?
    
    Do you hear sleigh bells and smell dear droppings?
    
    Gin
47.639PFSVAX::JACOBSend a self-abused, stomped antelopeThu Nov 11 1993 20:4113
    
    >>Is it snowing yet?
    
    Not here, cept in the low rent district, they always have "snow" fer
    sale.
    
    >>Do you hear sleigh bells and smell dear droppings?
                                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    
    Is that something that's left behind by one's significant other?????
    
    JaKe
    
47.640GWEN::ASHEDo you have to let it linger?Thu Nov 11 1993 20:422
    I wondered the same thing...
    
47.641bugggggsSWAM2::MASSEY_VIHow do you stuff a live turkey?Thu Nov 11 1993 20:4510
    Jake,
    
    The thing about Dear Droppings...........I guess it all depends on what
    you feed em.
    
    We have snow here too.
    
    Gin
    
    
47.642Jake, was Rush really right?16421::HEISERdweller on the thresholdMon Nov 15 1993 19:221
    
47.643PFSVAX::JACOBHo, Ho, Freakin' Ho!!!Mon Nov 15 1993 19:299
    
    >>     <<< Note 47.642 by 16421::HEISER "dweller on the threshold" >>>
    >>                   -< Jake, was Rush really right? >-
    
    Huh?????????
    
    
    Santa
    
47.64416421::HEISERdweller on the thresholdMon Nov 15 1993 19:485
    >    Huh?????????
    
    Santa, I caught the top 20 best-selling book list in yesterday's paper. 
    Rush has a new book out titled, "I Told You So!"  With you being a fan
    and all, I figured you'd know all about it.
47.645PFSVAX::JACOBHo, Ho, Freakin' Ho!!!Mon Nov 15 1993 19:5312
    
    >>Santa, I caught the top 20 best-selling book list in yesterday's paper. 
    >>Rush has a new book out titled, "I Told You So!"  With you being a fan
    >>and all, I figured you'd know all about it.
    
    Even if given that a__hole's book, I would not read it.  He's a legend
    in his own mind.  The only thing I'd use it for, and this may be too
    good fer him, is tearing out the pages, taping them together, and house
    training a puppy on them.
    
    Santa_JaKe
    
47.646aw Jake, you only say that cuz you mean it16421::HEISERdweller on the thresholdMon Nov 15 1993 19:541
    
47.647PATE::MACNEALruck `n' rollMon Nov 15 1993 19:581
    Geez, Jake, what did Geddy Lee ever do to you?
47.648PFSVAX::JACOBHo, Ho, Freakin' Ho!!!Mon Nov 15 1993 20:0510
    
    >>          <<< Note 47.647 by PATE::MACNEAL "ruck `n' roll" >>>

    >>Geez, Jake, what did Geddy Lee ever do to you?
    
    BIG HUH????????????
    
    
    Santa_JaKe
    
47.649GWEN::ASHELes Nessman Live, from the mall...Mon Nov 15 1993 20:073
    Geddy Lee - Canadian equivalent of Steve Perry.  Lead singer of group
    "Rush".
    
47.650progressive rocker16421::HEISERdweller on the thresholdMon Nov 15 1993 20:071
    He's the singer/bassist for the rock group "RUSH."
47.651PFSVAX::JACOBHo, Ho, Freakin' Ho!!!Mon Nov 15 1993 20:276
    OK, I didn't put 2 + 2 togethre on that one.
    
    Slap me wif a 2 x 4.
    
    Santa_JaKe
    
47.652PATE::MACNEALruck `n' rollMon Nov 15 1993 20:292
    Sorry, I forgot that Mike H. is a Rush Limbaugh fan.  I thought he was
    talking about the music group.
47.653PFSVAX::JACOBHo, Ho, Freakin' Ho!!!Mon Nov 15 1993 20:3416
    
    
    >>    Sorry, I forgot that Mike H. is a Rush Limbaugh fan. 
    
    MAC,
    
    I think "cultist" is a more appropriate word to use when describing
    Crush Phlegmball followers.  They digest his every body noise as gospel
    trufe and he could probably tell 'em to kill everybody in sight and
    most of the braindead listeners he has would carry out what he said to
    do.
    
    JMHO
    
    Santa_JaKe
    
47.654Mac's spreading falsehoods again16421::HEISERdweller on the thresholdMon Nov 15 1993 20:353
        >>    Sorry, I forgot that Mike H. is a Rush Limbaugh fan. 
    
    couldn't be further from the truth, Mac.
47.655MSE1::FRANCUSMets in '94Tue Nov 16 1993 04:147
    JaKe,
    
    why is it that MtM can inject politics into this notesfile and not
    get set/hidden? :-)
    
    The Crazy Met
    
47.656The band RUSH is hot!QUASER::JACKSONTANeed a nap? Watch tv baseball!Tue Nov 16 1993 13:0010
      Rush is just another "Fly by Night" money maker that sucks in the
    gulibal people that will believe whatever he says.  I'm not a Limbaugh
    backer nor a Clinton backer, since thats typically all I heard him talk
    about.  I haven't seen a Rush program in at least 6-8 months, and the
    last time I did, I was drunk off my a$$ at about midnight and was
    channel surfing and came upon his show, and of course it was just slam
    Clinton time and drool on himself time, so that made me get the bed
    spins which went away after turning the channel.
    
      Tim
47.65716421::HEISERdweller on the thresholdTue Nov 16 1993 14:032
    Jake, when you were in the Air Farce did you call female officers,
    "Sir"?
47.658CAM3::WAYYou can't polish a turdTue Nov 16 1993 14:079
>    Jake, when you were in the Air Farce did you call female officers,
>    "Sir"?

I can't speak for Jake and the Air Force, but if I remember correctly
my friend who were/are in the Navy refer to female officers as "Ma'am"
But I could be wrong.....

'Saw

47.659Yez'umMKFSA::LONGHelp! I've lost my OBL and can't get up!Tue Nov 16 1993 14:105
	Don't know what JaKe called them, but the 'Saw is correct in what
	he was 'supposed' to call them.


	billl
47.660CAM3::WAYYou can't polish a turdTue Nov 16 1993 14:3712
>                                  -< Yez'um >-
>
>	Don't know what JaKe called them, but the 'Saw is correct in what
>	he was 'supposed' to call them.


And when in doubt just use their rank, as in  "Aye, aye Lieutenant"

I think that's permissible...


'Saw
47.661Was it Henry FondaAKOCOA::BREENRudy,Rudy,RudyTue Nov 16 1993 14:585
    Oddly enough in the Navy and the Marines "Mr" is appropriate for
    Lieutenants and Warrant Officers as in Mr Roberts (a movie for you
    young uns).
    
    Now I don't know about calling a Ma'am Mrs or Ms.
47.662MKFSA::LONGHelp! I've lost my OBL and can't get up!Tue Nov 16 1993 15:356
	Also being an ex-flyboy, I could have this wrong, but I think
	the "Mr." is strictly for Ensigns (O-1).  Not sure about Warrant
	Officers.


	G.I. Joe
47.663CAM3::WAYYou can't polish a turdTue Nov 16 1993 15:479
I always thought that any Naval officer referred to any other Navel officer
of lower rank as Mr., when the audience is lower ranking people.

For example, a Captain could direct several Lts to work under a LCDR
by saying "you Lts will work with Mr. Smith on this plan".....

I can check that though....

'Saw
47.664what I heardHBAHBA::HAASNo sir. I don't like it.Tue Nov 16 1993 15:505
I thought "Mr." was when you really steamed your parents' clams and they
directed some threat your way and ended it with "mister" without your
name. E.G., "Where do you think you're going, mister?"

TTom
47.665MKFSA::LONGHelp! I've lost my OBL and can't get up!Tue Nov 16 1993 15:5911
>>I thought "Mr." was when you really steamed your parents' clams and they
>>directed some threat your way and ended it with "mister" without your
>>name. E.G., "Where do you think you're going, mister?"

	Yep, TTom, I seem to remember hearing it used that way about 5-6
	million times.

	"Not that there's anything wrong with that."


	Mr. billl
47.666PTOVAX::JACOBHo, Ho, Freakin' Ho!!Tue Nov 16 1993 18:417
    TCM, re Mac.....RHIP
    
    RE the Air Farce and female occifers, "Ma'am"
    
    
    JaKe
    
47.667Jake is the BEAST!!!16421::HEISERdweller on the thresholdTue Nov 16 1993 19:331
    re: -1
47.668What a thespian ah isCTHQ::LEARYCorporate Telecom Technology SolutionsFri Dec 03 1993 14:0247
    Well Jake et all,
    
    I need some hep here. I need a voice_a_reason, advise, career
    direction.
    
    I been thankin' of lookin' into a additional $$maker, a second career
    so to speak. Ya see I been told (or lied to) that I cain possess a
    quick funny wit in both mediums, written or oral.!!?? So I been
    considering doing some comedic stand-up, or writing in the local
    paper with some incisive witticisms and barbs. Wail, I kinda
    practiced a bit whence I weas thrust into a situation not long
    ago in me neighborhood. I needs ta know what ya think; if'n I got
    the right stuff or not.
    
    Ya see Jake, me neighbor is a landscaper and he bought a few saplings
    to plant next spring (ya know, apple. pear, dogwood etc) and had
    them all nurturing in his hothouse so to speak. He commemced ta
    show me his blueprints for arranging his "forest".  I was quite
    impressed. Now this main is a accomplished horticulturist so to
    speak and I really cain't offer him and advise on the technical
    aspects on raising and cultivating saplings, but he axed for mah
    advise. 
    
    Now being the wisearse that I is, I immediatly cultivated a germ
    of a_witticism. Last week being the 30th anniversary of JFK's death,
    I wanted to impart a Camelot-type theme. So's I commiserated with
    me neighbor, wanting to tell him to nurture early so's that they
    would bear fruit later.
    
    So I told him tongue in cheek, " Ask not what your young trees can do
    for you, ask what you can do for your young trees."
    Wail I must admit that he looked at me for a long spell, vacant eyes
    bweildered (peasant!) afore dawn broke over marblehead, whence he
    shook his head and said "That sucked"
    
    I was taken aback, perplexed and apoplectic, that me dullard of a
    neighbor was lacking in gray matter and a sense of humor. I thought
    it was both apropos and brilliant!
    
    Wail JaKey et all, do I have the right stuff or what??
    
    
    MikeL
    
    I remain,
    waiting to launch me new career.
    
47.669PATE::MACNEALruck `n' rollFri Dec 03 1993 14:171
    Just make sure you don't quit your day job, Mike.
47.670Or have you?MSBCS::BRYDIEI need somebody to shove!Fri Dec 03 1993 14:231
 Gee, MikeL, why haven't you ever shared this whit of yours with us? 
47.671MKFSA::LONGT- 6 days and counting...Fri Dec 03 1993 14:304
	MikeL, don't quit the day job!


	billl
47.672MKFSA::LONGT- 6 days and counting...Fri Dec 03 1993 14:314
	Ouch!  I've been injured in a notes collision


	billl
47.673CAM3::WAYYou can't polish a turdFri Dec 03 1993 14:3226
Mike, me bucko.....

First off, you should've offered him a shot of Bushmills first.  Have 
you ever noticed that in most comedy clubs, they serve liquor?  That kind
of lubes up the audience and makes them more predisposed to laugh.

Second, you always have to have a few lines "in your vestpocket", so to
speak, to handle hecklers like that....

For example, one of the best putdowns I heard was in a comedy club a 
couple of years back.  This guy had been heckling this female comic
for quite a while.  Finally she stopped, looked at him, and 
said "Hey, I don't come into burger king and take the spatula out of your
hand when you're working, so why do you shut up while I'm working".
It worked great.

Also, Rodney Dangerfield is superb when it comes to that.


So, once you have that down, and you've properly lubed up your audience,
then you can try out your material....

Hey, if Steven Wright can do it........


'Saw
47.674PATE::MACNEALruck `n' rollFri Dec 03 1993 14:432
    If you follow 'Saw's advice, just make sure you don't wear a puffy
    shirt.
47.675CAM3::WAYYou can't polish a turdFri Dec 03 1993 14:5210
>
>    If you follow 'Saw's advice, just make sure you don't wear a puffy
>    shirt.

Unless you're as big as Sinbad, in which case you can wear whatever you
want....8^)


'Saw

47.676Many 8^)'s I think !!CTHQ::LEARYCorporate Telecom Technology SolutionsFri Dec 03 1993 15:538
    
    Actually Tommy, I don't use my wit in here, totally unnecessary
    me fellow. It would be like bringing a Panzer to wipe out
    an ant colony.
    
    MikeL
    
    
47.677Jay Lenno, Conan O'Brien, Ed McMahon, Mike Leary....CTHQ::MCCULLOUGHMelanie is one year old!!!Fri Dec 03 1993 18:3711
Y'know, this could be the emergence of a new MikeL.  I was walkign down 
the hall just now, and spied ol' Mike.  Lo and behold, if'n he wasn't wearing,
not his cutomary IBM style suit, but a sweater and corduroy pants!!  The outfit 
was nicely accented by a pair of buck saddle shoes, but nonetheless it was a 
drastic departure, and clearly preparation for his new career.

As far as Mikey's sense of humor, I've seen some things he's written over the 
past couple of years, and beleive me, the guy's a million yucks.  He'll be
on HBO as soom as he learns to swear.

=Bob=
47.678Why thanks =Bob=, er maybeCTHQ::LEARYCorporate Telecom Technology SolutionsFri Dec 03 1993 18:444
    I ain't sure if'n I been insulted or complimented?!
    
    MikeL
    
47.679GENRAL::WADEPull!Fri Dec 03 1993 18:585
    
    	If they judge comedians on how funny they look, MikeyL will
    	be a hit!  :*)
    
    Claybone
47.680JMHOPTOVAX::JACOBTongue=10 in, can breath thru earsFri Dec 03 1993 19:014
    IMHO, MikeL, it sucked, bigtime.
    
    JaKe
    
47.681I'm dashed,crushed,crestfallen,tearwardCTHQ::LEARYCorporate Telecom Technology SolutionsFri Dec 03 1993 19:081
    
47.682(8^)*PTOVAX::JACOBTongue=10 in, can breath thru earsFri Dec 03 1993 19:1011
    WEll MikeL, sorry BUT.....
    
    As saw said, get yer crowd lubed on the juice beforehand, with that
    example of yer humor, maybe you'll wanna buy each of the peoples a
    bottle of Jack and let them swig on it fer a while, like until it's
    empty...By that time, they'll probably laugh at anything.
    
    Schnort Schit Schlepps
    
    JaKe
    
47.683CAM3::WAYYou can't polish a turdFri Dec 03 1993 19:2027
MikeL,

Take heart -- the best of them have had to endure the slings and arrows
of those folks who are too timid in their own hearts to break out and
try new things....


First off, decide what brand of comedy you'd like to pursue.

I mean there's the bizzare (Steven Wright, Judy Tenuta), the insult-oriented
comedy (of Andrew Dice Clay and Don Rickles), there's the non-stop, never-quit
one-liners that Rodney is famous for, and of course, there's Cosby's
down home, everyday life brand of humor.   As always, there's the
heavily improvised styles of Robin Williams and his mentor, Jonathan Winters.

Take your material from your surroundings -- that's what you know best.

Don't be afriad to take shots at yourself, but be ready to come down heavily
on others that do....


Go for it.  Work up a little routine, and head off to open mike night.
Don't forget, Howie Mandel was a carpet salesman playing open mike gigs
before he hit it big.....


'Saw
47.684Howie made it big ?OURGNG::RIGGENSales gets commisions we get &quot;JACK&quot;Fri Dec 03 1993 19:460
47.685PATE::MACNEALruck `n' rollFri Dec 03 1993 19:501
    Howie has a weekly TV show.
47.686MSBCS::BRYDIEI need somebody to shove!Fri Dec 03 1993 19:5615
 >> Take heart -- the best of them have had to endure the slings and arrows
 >> of those folks who are too timid in their own hearts to break out and
 >> try new things....

    Sawman, someone ought to expose you to Kerouac and Burroughs and Russell 
    Banks and Hunter Thompson and drag you away from Claire Bee and Horatio
    Alger.

    But Boston is a breeding ground for comedians (Steven Wright, Bobcat 
    Goldwaithe, Kevin Meaney, etc.). There's something in the water here.
    And they all had to start somewhere. If Mike is serious, he really ought 
    to do it. He ain't no sping chicken. "Of all the words of tongue and pen,
    the saddest are these - what might have been."

47.687Mike and the Sunshine BoysCTHQ::MCCULLOUGHMelanie is one year old!!!Fri Dec 03 1993 20:037
47.688CAM3::WAYYou can't polish a turdFri Dec 03 1993 20:0535
>
>    Sawman, someone ought to expose you to Kerouac and Burroughs and Russell 
>    Banks and Hunter Thompson and drag you away from Claire Bee and Horatio
>    Alger.

Actually, I've never read Claire Bee (Is she related to Aunt Bee?) or
Horation Alger.

But I have read Jack Kerouac.


>    But Boston is a breeding ground for comedians (Steven Wright, Bobcat 
>    Goldwaithe, Kevin Meaney, etc.). There's something in the water here.
>    And they all had to start somewhere. If Mike is serious, he really ought 
>    to do it. He ain't no sping chicken. "Of all the words of tongue and pen,
>    the saddest are these - what might have been."

Ayuh....


Howie Mandel didn't make it big by some standards, but he did have a
regular part on 'St. Elsewhere', and has had comedy specials and stuff
on cable.....


'Saw


PS  Could you see Mike Leary doing Bobcat Goldthwait kind of humor?
    I'd be rollin'......


'saw


47.689CAM3::WAYYou can't polish a turdFri Dec 03 1993 20:0610
>    
>    You cain say that agin.  By the time he makes it big, they'll have 
>    ol' MikeyL playin' on the same bill as Bob Hope, Wilford Brimley 
>    and Estelle Geddes.
    
I don't know about Estelle Geddes, but Wilford Brimley hasn't hit 60
yet....


Course, Mikey might be 60 by the time he makes it....8^)
47.690PTOVAX::JACOBTongue=10 in, can breath thru earsFri Dec 03 1993 20:284
    Howie Mandell, oin stage, reminds me of a drunken 9 year old.
    
    JaKe
    
47.6918^)CTHQ::LEARYCorporate Telecom Technology SolutionsFri Dec 03 1993 22:5612
    You slayeth me Tommy..
    Clair Bee, my boyhood William Faulkner. Chip Hilton, Biggie Cohen,
    Red Schwartz, Soapy Smith, Speed Morris. Don't ferget Stinky Ferriss,
    Fats Olsen (not you Ken), Branch Philipps, ,etc. I cain't make these
    names up.  And ah really did have all 40somefin' books.
    
    Thanks for the advise ladies. I'll try the cerebral approach.
    
    Huh-huh huh huh huh.
    
    MikeL
    
47.692MSE1::FRANCUSMets in '94Sat Dec 04 1993 17:009
    re: "of all the sad words, etc."
    
    one of my favorite quotes - minor nit that it wasn't completely
    correct.
    
    But the 64K q. where does that quote come from??
    
    The Crazy Met
    
47.693PATE::MACNEALruck `n' rollMon Dec 06 1993 12:351
    Isn't there already a Michael Leary doing comedy?
47.694CAM3::WAYYou can't polish a turdMon Dec 06 1993 12:377
>    Isn't there already a Michael Leary doing comedy?


Dennis....Mike's brother, I think.


'Saw
47.695TNPUBS::ALVEYDead Runners Society - Carpe ViamMon Dec 06 1993 12:582
Timothy...Mike's dad, I think.
dr.a
47.696GENRAL::WADEPull!Mon Dec 06 1993 14:486
    
    Mac,
    
    	Every note MikeL puts in here defendin' ND is pure comedy!
    
    Claybone
47.6978^)CTHQ::LEARYCorporate Telecom Technology SolutionsMon Dec 06 1993 16:288
    
    -1,
    Jeez, about time one of y'all dullards said dat! I been waiting for
    that slur all week. Y'all oughtta be ashamed that a former
    Coloraddy School_A_Mines wif rocks in his haid came up with it.
    
    MikeL
    
47.698Those were the daysTNPUBS::NAZZAROGentleness overcomes strengthMon Dec 06 1993 17:417
    There were 40 books in the Chip Hilton series?  I only read 8 or 9.
    Speed Morris, Biggie Cohen, and Soapy Smith were the kinda guys any
    red-blooded American teenager wished he coulda had for buddies.  Too
    bad those books are all out of print - I'd love to give a set to my
    sons, but they'd probably laugh at the stories, if they even read them!
    
    NAZZ
47.699I ate it up... ;-)NAC::G_WAUGAMANMon Dec 06 1993 17:469
    
    I loved the Chip Hilton books, too.  They were filled with many
    emotionally touching moments designed to enrich the souls of young 
    readers, such as when former schoolboy star and devoted father Chip 
    Hilton Sr. was tragically killed when a crate of pottery fell on him 
    down at the foundry (sniff...)
    
    glenn
    
47.700MSBCS::BRYDIEI need somebody to shove!Mon Dec 06 1993 17:559
    
      I used to read those hokey Chip Hilton books when I was a kid.
     And there was another series that I used to read that had some
     boy detectives. I can't remeber the name of the series (and I used
     to love the series) but the detectives were Jupiter Jones and Pete 
     and Iforgetwho. Anyone out there know what the hell I'm talking 
     about? Of course, by the time I was 15 and had read The Catcher 
     In The Rye and The Autobiography Of Malcolm X and Down These Mean 
     Streets, there was no going back to Chip Hilton.
47.701CTHQ::LEARYCorporate Telecom Technology SolutionsMon Dec 06 1993 19:1418
    Hail yes there was 40 or so Chip Hilton books.
    
    Remember ol' #44 was the star in football, basketball, AND baseball
    (throw in some summer league games) and Clair Bee followed Chip and
    gang from sophs in high school through senior year at State U.
    Dat's seven years with a couple books on each sport per year.
    That adds up to 40+ or so.
    
    I don't exactly know what this has to do wif Jake unless his
    personality cain be explained away cuz he was hit on the haid 
    by some pottery or something.
    
    MikeL
    
    P.S. I've been looking for this series as well in recent years.
    Thought my nephew might like them. No luck so far.
    
     
47.702MSBCS::BRYDIEI need somebody to shove!Mon Dec 06 1993 19:236
   I've seen these books at book sales and flea markets, etc. I never 
  picked them up because I've already read 'em but next time I see some
  I'll grab 'em and post a note in here. Don't blame me if you get laughed
  at for giving some kid the literary equivalent of Doby Gillis.
  
47.703Song of Solomon was my favorite ;-)16421::HEISERno I'm really very, very shyMon Dec 06 1993 19:391
    
47.704MSE1::FRANCUSMets in '94Tue Dec 07 1993 05:138
    re: .697 (whatever that MikeL note about slurs was).
    
    MikeL, the truth is an absolute defense.
    
    HtH
    
    The Crazy Met
    
47.705Hardy Boys ROOLZ!!!!!!!!!CNTROL::CHILDSI am airless, a vacuum childTue Dec 07 1993 14:160
47.706MSE1::FRANCUSMets in '94Tue Dec 07 1993 14:1811
    JaKe,
    
    why do freakin crazy things always seem to happen with women when one
    is 11000 miles away?
    
    The Crazy Met
    
    ps with a nod to the Cyrkle - and I think it's gonna be 
    all right yes the worst is over now the morning sun is shining like a
    red rubber ball.
    
47.7077806::ASHEWhile you're gnipping, he's gnopping...Tue Dec 07 1993 14:402
    Encyclopedia Brown?
    
47.708MSBCS::BRYDIEI need somebody to shove!Tue Dec 07 1993 14:447

  Different series, Walt. The series that I'm talking about had
 three kids. The smart was Jupiter Jones, the athlete was Pete
 and I can't remeber the name of the third kid. They solved mysteries
 around their coastal California tonw that was ????? Cove. It was
 an Alfred Hitchock youth series.
47.709CAM3::WAYYou can't polish a turdTue Dec 07 1993 14:5020
>    
>    why do freakin crazy things always seem to happen with women when one
>    is 11000 miles away?
>    


Craze, remember, women are the ones who think it's easier on the lobster
if they put him in cold water and bring it to a boil, as opposed to a guy,
who will just dump the lobster right in the boiling water.


I've never been 11000 miles away from any woman I've known, so I have no
experience with that.  I have been 3500 miles away, in a country where the
women were pretty spent looking (most of them)... but nothing crazy 
happened......


'Saw
    

47.710talk about ice cold16421::HEISERno I'm really very, very shyTue Dec 07 1993 16:103
    What would motivate a woman to cheat on her husband for 8 months, and
    when he finds out, have her tell him that he's her financial security
    and the other guy is her sexual pleasure?
47.711CAM3::WAYYou can't polish a turdTue Dec 07 1993 16:1615
>                            -< talk about ice cold >-
>
>    What would motivate a woman to cheat on her husband for 8 months, and
>    when he finds out, have her tell him that he's her financial security
>    and the other guy is her sexual pleasure?


Sounds like a case for Messrs. Smith and Wesson....

Plus, it kind of puts a dent in that old saying "Cheaters never prosper"
don't it....


'Saw

47.712speaking of dan'l, hows he doing????? ;^) :^) :^)CSTEAM::FARLEYTue Dec 07 1993 16:401
    
47.713Or is it none of my businessSWAM2::MASSEY_VIFound Mr. Right, married to Mrs. WrongTue Dec 07 1993 17:0911
    .710
    
    You said it right there.  Her motivation was that her hubby had the
    money and the other guy was good in bed.  Now, what I want to know is
    why she went on and told her husband about it.  Did he find out or did
    she just decide to let him in on it?
    
    
    Gin
    
    
47.714USCTR1::KINGBe a MAN, low maintenance!!!Tue Dec 07 1993 17:203
    Who are we talking about?
    
    REK
47.715he's divorcing her now16421::HEISERno I'm really very, very shyTue Dec 07 1993 17:432
    Actually, it happened to a friend of mine.  He didn't have a clue all
    that time, she finally told him for reasons beyond all of us.
47.716LAGUNA::MAY_BRAll products 100% buzzword compliantTue Dec 07 1993 18:465
  >   Actually, it happened to a friend of mine.
    
    Mike, need a place to stay until everything gets settled?  8^)
    
    brews
47.717CAM3::WAYYou can't polish a turdTue Dec 07 1993 19:0011
>    Mike, need a place to stay until everything gets settled?  8^)
>    
>    brews

So Brews, now we know why your neighbor moved.  Musta been nice to be
her "sexual satisfaction" though, eh?

8^0

'Saw

47.718Not Edgar Rice...?AKOCOA::BREENWaite Hoyt and Tom UmphlettTue Dec 07 1993 19:0313
    I used to read a baseball series with a pitcher named Mel Martin and
    twins at first basebase (Lefty) and catcher (Righty-I'm not kidding)
    
    One of the stories was "The Southpaw's Secret"
    
    And there was another famous individual who wrote the Merriwell style
    stories, I'll have his name tomw
    
    And I might have mentioned this before but Kerouac was a star end for
    Lowell High who went to BC on a football scholarship before going 
    "On The Road"
    
    And I've heard of Hunter Thompson but who is Burroughs?
47.719Never read these, though...NAC::G_WAUGAMANTue Dec 07 1993 19:206
    
>    And there was another famous individual who wrote the Merriwell style
>    stories, I'll have his name tomw
    
    John R. Tunis, right?
    
47.720MSBCS::BRYDIEI need somebody to shove!Tue Dec 07 1993 19:266
  >> And I've heard of Hunter Thompson but who is Burroughs?

     William Burroughs, author of The Naked Lunch among other things.
     He also had a bit part as the drug addicted priest in the movie
     Drugstore Cowboy. 
47.721looking for this?CSTEAM::FARLEYTue Dec 07 1993 19:3017
    
    
    Yabbut there was also some guy who claimed to be a Edgar_rice
    Burroughs.  Said to have written some stories about a leopard skin clad
    dude who originally lived in some jungle with some neat cats and
    monkeys but he later moved to NYC.
    
    Oh, you didn't mean him?  You wanted the other Burroughs?
    That was a computer company who mated with Sperry and begat something
    called Unisys (Beats Dweebil I guess).
    
    hth
    
    I remain,
    not Jane
    Kev
    
47.722Another Flea Market Book Browser.AKOCOA::BREENWaite Hoyt and Tom UmphlettTue Dec 07 1993 19:4212
    So Tommy, you do the Flea Market, quarter a book, trick too(5 for a
    buck)?
    
    I just finished a Fulbright bio and I'm now doing Plain Speaking.  Very
    curious to see if Harry's opinion of J. William is of similar ilk as
    the former Arkansas All-American's of HT.
    
    I have this wild conspiracy idea that JWF may have been had an early
    expedient demise as a result of his refusal to let go of the Tonkin
    thing.
    
    Bill
47.723MSBCS::BRYDIEI need somebody to shove!Tue Dec 07 1993 19:4911
  >> So Tommy, you do the Flea Market, quarter a book, trick too(5 for a
  >> buck)?
    
     Yup. I paid $4.95 or so for John Irving's The Cider House Rules and then
     I saw it at a Flea Market for $.25. You don't have to hit *me* over the 
     head with Webster's Unabridged. Now, I have about 50 books at home that 
     I haven't read. Discovered a lot of really good author's this way, too.
     Folks like Jay Parini and Russell Banks and even semi-schlocky Dick Francis.
     I've also bought some nice first editions cheap and some nicely bound
     classics and modern classics. It's the only way to go.
47.724CTHQ::MCCULLOUGHMelanie is one year old!!!Tue Dec 07 1993 19:575
Tommy, how'd you like "The Cider House Rules"?  It's on my read list, but I've
had mixed luck with Irving.  Some of his stuff is brilliant (the Water Method 
Man), and some sips (Setting Free the Bears).

=Bob=
47.725PTOVAX::JACOBIt happened again!!!!!!Tue Dec 07 1993 20:0312
    
    >>why do freakin crazy things always seem to happen with women when one
    >>is 11000 miles away?
    
    Beat me, but I know it's true that it goes that way.
    
    Seems everytime I go away, some crisis or another pops up, or the kids
    treat Mrs. JaKe like the Indians treated Custer....end up on the phone
    long hours trying to clear thangs up.
    
    JaKe
    
47.726just a fraction of his former self16421::HEISERno I'm really very, very shyTue Dec 07 1993 20:304
    No it was a musician friend of mine.  Given how emotional musicians
    are, it's been tough trying to help him over this.  We've been
    including him in on our family gatherings since his family is in
    Chicago.  It's really heart-wrenching to see how it's affected him.  
47.727play your heartstrings and leaveSWAM2::MASSEY_VIYou can't cut me, I don't work hereTue Dec 07 1993 21:295
    A musician?  My mamma always warned me about dem musicians.
    
    
    
    Gin
47.728what did she say about us?16421::HEISERno I'm really very, very shyTue Dec 07 1993 21:451
    
47.729Gimme an Em9-5.....CAM3::WAYYou can't polish a turdWed Dec 08 1993 12:156
Musicians just view the world a little bit differently than everyone else.

Kinda like artists and writers.....


'Saw
47.730disgustingCNTROL::CHILDSJ. Elders, you got it RIGHT Babeee!!Wed Dec 08 1993 12:238
 Hey Mike give your buddy a slap in the head for me will ya. His ex's is
 a jerk and all he can do is sob about it? Tell him to growup and be a
 man will ya...

 mike


47.731CAM3::WAYYou can't polish a turdWed Dec 08 1993 12:4916
>
> Hey Mike give your buddy a slap in the head for me will ya. His ex's is
> a jerk and all he can do is sob about it? Tell him to growup and be a
> man will ya...
>

Nah, I disagree.  Sometimes it takes someone a bit longer to get over
something like that.  Especially a musician.....

On the other hand, there is no sense crying in your beer...so just get
up and get on with it.  (and hope she gets run over by a truck....8^))


'Saw


47.732LAGUNA::MAY_BRAll products 100% buzzword compliantWed Dec 08 1993 13:436
    
    OK Mike,  how about me, you and yer friend go visit Tiffany's for
    lunch.  That should have things looking up for him.
    
    brews
    
47.733MSBCS::BRYDIEI need somebody to shove!Wed Dec 08 1993 13:5217
  >> Tommy, how'd you like "The Cider House Rules"?  

     I liked it alot. It's not for everybody, though because of
     some of the subject matter. Gingerly put, if you don't agree
     with Planned Parenthood then don't read the book. Also, it
     goes into some pretty gruesome detail. Mostly though it's
     almost a paean to one of my favorite writers, Charles Dickens.
     Like many of Dickens' stories, it's about an orphan and
     the main setting is an orphanage. The orphans are even read 
     Dickens at bedtime. It's filled with those wonderful minor
     characters that always populated Dickens' books. And it
     combines the elements of humor, romance, tragedy and political
     statement beautifully as Dickens always did. I won't go into 
     more detail for fear of spoiling it but suffice it to say that 
     I think that you'll like it.
     
  
47.734CAM3::WAYYou can't polish a turdWed Dec 08 1993 14:0213
>  >> Tommy, how'd you like "The Cider House Rules"?  
>
>     I liked it alot. It's not for everybody, though because of
>     some of the subject matter. Gingerly put, if you don't agree


Save me a trip back through all the replies.  Who wrote it, and do you
think I'd find it at my public library?


'Saw     
  

47.735CTHQ::MCCULLOUGHMelanie is one year old!!!Wed Dec 08 1993 16:448
47.736CAM3::WAYYou can't polish a turdWed Dec 08 1993 16:5616
Okay, it *was* that Irving.   

I'll check it out....


I'm reading "Without Remorse" right now by Tom Clancy.  As I enjoy his books
I'm enjoying this one immensely.

And his non-fiction book about nuclear subs got a ringing endorsement from
my new friends on the Hartford.

When I'm done with "Without Remorse", I'm going to read "Captains
Courageous" by Kipling....


'Saw
47.737CTHQ::MCCULLOUGHMelanie is one year old!!!Wed Dec 08 1993 16:595
47.73816421::HEISERno I'm really very, very shyWed Dec 08 1993 17:044
    Don't worry, in the infamous words of Cher, I said to him "SNAP OUT OF
    IT!"  His self-respect and self-esteem are in much better shape now. 
    BTW - emotional doesn't necessarily mean crybaby.  For instance,
    Charles Barkley is very emotional.
47.739NYOS01::BACHA New York node?Wed Dec 08 1993 17:0716
    Speaking of Irving, they just finsihed filming on of his books "A
    Prayer for Owen Meany", which will be titled "Milk Money" starring
    Melanie Griffith a few houses down from mine.
    
    They also turned the Kilgor elementary school into "Owen Meany Jr.
    High" and used several buildings in my little town for location
    shots.  (Mt. Lookout - a town in Cincinnati)
    
    It will be pretty cool to see my neighborhood (and perhaps my house)
    in a movie.
    
    If my house makes it, it would be the one with the "Bears" flag hangin'
    outside.  ;-)
    
    Chip_GSH_Bach
   
47.740MSBCS::BRYDIEI need somebody to shove!Wed Dec 08 1993 17:1014
 >> I'm reading "Without Remorse" right now by Tom Clancy.  As I enjoy 
 >> his books I'm enjoying this one immensely.

    Clancy and Stephen King and Dick Francis and Elmore Leonard are all
    nice when you want something light to read but I've never read any-
    thing by any of them that ever gave me pause to think. They have a
    formula that works for them sort of like a weekly tv drama series. 
    It doesn't challenge what you know or believe, you know what you're 
    getting and that is its main charm that it's comfortable. 
    
    
    BTW - I've got a Prayer For Owen Meaney but I haven't read it yet.
    
47.741CAM3::WAYYou can't polish a turdWed Dec 08 1993 17:1010
>
>To borrow a line from your heros, "Captains Courageous" is cool, huh, huhhuh.
>


I actually started the first few pages on Thanksgiving Day, waiting for
Chris to get to the race.  But I put it down in favor of "Without Remorse"
the next weekend.   It seems like it's gonna be a good one....

'Saw
47.742CAM3::WAYYou can't polish a turdWed Dec 08 1993 17:1317
>    Clancy and Stephen King and Dick Francis and Elmore Leonard are all
>    nice when you want something light to read but I've never read any-
>    thing by any of them that ever gave me pause to think. They have a
>    formula that works for them sort of like a weekly tv drama series. 
>    It doesn't challenge what you know or believe, you know what you're 
>    getting and that is its main charm that it's comfortable. 
    
    
Right, but that's one of the reasons why I read.  I get enough
challenges day to day in what I have to do, and in terms of strain
on my brain.

However, I try to mix stuff like that with classics and non-fiction, so that
I'm getting a variety of stuff, with which to "feed my head".....

    
'SAw
47.743Alec Guiness is George SmileyMPGS::MCCARTHYMike McCarthy SHR3-2/W1 237-2468Wed Dec 08 1993 17:3710
    Saw,
    
    Check out some of John LeCarre's books.  His latest, "The Night
    Manager" is pretty good.
    
    You can't go wrong with any of the George Smiley triogy
    (Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy, The Honourable Schoolboy,
    and Smiley's People).
    
    Mike
47.744MSBCS::BRYDIEI need somebody to shove!Wed Dec 08 1993 18:135
     Funny that you should mention Le Carre because I'm reading The
    Incongruous Spy which more or less introduced Smiley I believe.
    I've read The Honourable Schoolboy and Tinker, Tailor, Soldier,
    Spy and the Spy Who Came In From the Cold and all were very good.
47.745PATE::MACNEALruck `n' rollWed Dec 08 1993 18:523
    I'm sure Mike's buddy would be glad to know we are discussing his
    personal life in a worldwide forum.  Should help him get a booking on
    Oprah or Phil.
47.746then stop talking about him, Mac16421::HEISERno I'm really very, very shyWed Dec 08 1993 19:041
    
47.747PATE::MACNEALruck `n' rollWed Dec 08 1993 19:593
    You'ze guyz better knock it off with the literary stuff in JaKe's note. 
    You all know the only reading he's done is the back of the Rolling Rock
    bottle.  He's going to become confused and upset.
47.74816421::HEISERno I'm really very, very shyWed Dec 08 1993 20:504
>    You all know the only reading he's done is the back of the Rolling Rock
>    bottle.  He's going to become confused and upset.
    
    ...and the magazines with the pages stuck together.
47.749MSE1::FRANCUSMets in '94Thu Dec 09 1993 00:565
    JaKe must be on a service call. 4 hours later and MikeH's note
    has not yet earned him a heat seeking missile.
    
    The Crazy Met
    
47.750PTOVAX::JACOBIt happened again!!!!!!Thu Dec 09 1993 02:387
    
    >>...and the magazines with the pages stuck together.
    
    That's what I get for having you send me your used magazines.
    
    JaKe
    
47.751Ya Don't Need a WeatherPerson to Know Which Way th eWind Blows ...RHETT::KNORRCarolina BlueThu Dec 09 1993 14:3123
    Dear JaKe,
    
    How come it bothers me so much when, during the nightly news, the 
    AnchorPerson always axes the WeatherPerson if he/she is gonna give
    us a nice day.  I know they know I know this is pure AnchorBabble, but
    it still bugs me none-the-less.  And while we're on the subject, ....
    
    Why can't WeatherPeople, instead of telling us what the weather will
    be, give us *probabilities*.  It's almost as if they feel they hold the
    power to control if we'll have a good/bad day depending on what they
    decree.  Weather Forecasting is an inexact science.  Give me
    probabilities, not guesstimates disguised as fact.
    
    And finally, how come I've never heard a WeatherPerson tell me it's
    cold out cause it's winter, and hot out cause it's summer.  Based
    solely on their attempts to impress us with their Weather Sophistication, 
    I could almost be led to believe that if the right high pressure swell 
    came down from Canada, we could have a foot of snow in July in Georgia.
    
    Thanks,
    
    
    - ACC Chris
47.752CAM3::WAYYou can't polish a turdThu Dec 09 1993 14:381
Isobars.  It's all got to do with isobars......
47.753PATE::MACNEALruck `n' rollThu Dec 09 1993 14:435
47.754must be someone elseFRETZ::HEISERno I'm really very, very shyThu Dec 09 1993 14:451
    Sorry Jake, I don't read stuff with pictures in them.
47.755PTOVAX::JACOBIt happened again!!!!!!Thu Dec 09 1993 19:1112
    
>>           <<< Note 47.752 by CAM3::WAY "You can't polish a turd" >>>

>>Isobars.  It's all got to do with isobars......
    
    I prefer Nestle Crunch bars, meself.
    
    Chris, all weather peoples think their GOD, and most want ya to worship
    them accordingly.
    
    JaKE
    
47.756the sun is out so it must be sunny out.SWAM2::MASSEY_VIYou do it once, do it all day.Thu Dec 09 1993 20:368
    
    
    
    I think he just needs to stop watching the news and look out the window
    from time to time.
    
    
    Gin
47.757get the facks rightMSE1::FRANCUSMets in '94Fri Dec 10 1993 00:084
    And Chris it is the low pressure area that brings the snow.
    
    The Crazy Met
    
47.758CAM3::WAYYou can't polish a turdFri Dec 10 1993 12:395
Julie Brosky on WVIT is hot and single -- who cares WHAT weather she gives.

Nancy Aborn on WTNH is hot and married, again, who listens?

Hilton Kaderli on WFSB is a guy, and gives a good weather forecast....
47.759The Weather Channel has some hot women as well ...RHETT::KNORRCarolina BlueFri Dec 10 1993 12:546
    re: .-1
    
    Just a guess, but does Hilton have the lowest ratings?
    
    
    - ACC Chris
47.760CAM3::WAYYou can't polish a turdFri Dec 10 1993 13:0718
>    Just a guess, but does Hilton have the lowest ratings?
    
Actually, not.

WFSB has the top ratings in the area (they're a CBS affliate).  
Hilton, and a guy who lives a few streets away from me, Bruce DePrest, are
both meteorologists who's been certified by the AMS, and they do a good
forecast.

Hilton's been here for years and is now a "fixture" in the area, but
he was originally from Texas, and he'll use the interesting 
colloquialisms from time to time, like "gully-whomper" for a big storm.

A friend of my used to be a cameraman for WTNH and he says that Nancy
Aborn was pretty wild before she got married.  She looks like she could
have been....

Don't know much about Julie Brosky....but I'd like to.....
47.761PATE::MACNEALruck `n' rollFri Dec 10 1993 13:104
47.762PATE::MACNEALruck `n' rollFri Dec 10 1993 13:114
47.763CAM3::WAYYou can't polish a turdFri Dec 10 1993 13:1310
Ol' Hilton has been here for like 20 years, must be.

I bumped into him one night at a bookstore, and he was cool.  He stood
and talked to me for a while, not seeming to want to rush off like a lot
of them do.

Another nice guy is Dave Smith, the sports guy.....


'Saw
47.764MKFSA::LONGThe battle is joined...Fri Dec 10 1993 13:3917
	JaKe,

	It's been soooo long since I watched Chiller Theater, with Chilly
	Billy Cardilly, I can't remember Godzilla ever actually getting 
	killed.  Is there something about this type of monster that is
	invincable, and the rest of us are doomed to see it return at
	regular unscheduled, not to mention uninvited, intervals?

	For you "quality movie" buffs, Bill Cardill was the newscaster
	in "Night of the Living Dead".  He is a bit of a legend in the
	'burgh where he used to host Chiller Theater in the 60's and 70's.
	(also happens to be where NOTLD was filmed)

	I wonder if it is just a coincedence that the MIL is from there, too?


	billl
47.765CAM3::WAYYou can't polish a turdFri Dec 10 1993 13:48201
Night of the Living Dead is such a classic.....


Bill, keep a careful on your MIL.  If she exhibits ANY of the symptoms
of a character in a horror movie, please ensure you follow the attached
rules.   

(In fact, I DARE you to post these rules on the 'fridge at home....8^))


-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

	HORROR MOVIE CHARACTER SURVIVAL TIPS

1.	If the house you're living in tells you to "GO AWAY", do so 
	immediately.

2.	Never take a bath or shower with an MSDC (maniac/spirit/demon/creature)
	in the house.

3.	When it appears that you have killed the MSDC, DO NOT check to see if
	he/she/it's really dead.

4.	If you find that your house is built upon or near a cemetary, or people
	in the past have performed necrophilia in your house, move away 
	immediately.

5.	If plumbing fixtures or other structures in your home begin spewing
	body fluids, it's time to move out.

6.	Never read a book of demon summoning aloud, even as a joke.

7.	Don't look under the bed.

8. 	Do not search the basement, especially if the power has just gone out.

9.	If tree's, TV's, or other objects try to consume your children, save as
	many as you can and then get the hell out of the area.

10.	If relatives or pets come back from the dead, stay as far away 
        from them  as posible.

11.	If inanimate objects such as dolls, toys, or furniture attack you, 
        be prudent and leave the area.

12.	If you've hidden from the MSDC and you are not found, do not peek 
        from  or leave your hiding place, for you are only further 
        endangering yourself.

13.	Never believe that your companion has truly become "dispossessed."

14.	It is VERY, VERY dangerous to back into or through rooms.

15.	If your children speak to you in Latin or any other language which they
	do not know, or if they speak to you using a voice which is other than 
	their own, shoot them immediately.  It will save you a lot of grief 
	in the long run.

	NOTE: It will probably take several rounds of gunfire to incapacitate
	them, so be prepared.

16.	When you have the benefit of numbers, *NEVER* pair off or go it alone!!!

17.	Never get into a car without first checking the back seat for occupants.

18.	If demons begin possessing your companions, it's a good idea to leave
	the area as soon and as quickly as possible.

19.	If your companions start turning up dead, make yourself scarce before
	  someone else does it for you.  Worry about funerals later.

20.	If you've just finished running over the MSDC inyour car, keep going.
	Most certainly DO NOT get out of the car to see if he/she/it's really 
	dead.

21.	As a general rule, don't solve puzzles that open portals to Hell.

22.	Don't fall asleep if you have a history of homicidal/suicidal 
  	nightmares.

23.	Never stand in,on,above,below,beside, or near a grave, tomb, crypt,
        mausoleum, etc.

24.	Never stand in.on,above,below, beside or near a window, especially 
 	those that appear that they would break easily.

25.	Do not lay, sleep, or have sex on bloody mattresses.

26.	If you're searching for something which caused a noise and find out
  	that it's just the cat, LEAVE THE ROOM IMMEDIATELY ELSE YOU WILL 
	QUICKLY DIE.

27.	If your child starts having sex with crosses, does head spins, or 
 	tends to projectile vomit filth, leave immediately.

28.	If appliances start operating by themselves, leave the area immediately.

29.	Do not take anything from the dead.

30.	If priests won't or can't enter your home, start looking for a new home.

31.	If the place you are visiting is known for its history of mass murders,
  	deaths, freak accidents, or supernatural occurences, leave.

32.	If you wake up from a particularly horrific dream and find yourself
  	still alive, you probably aren't awake yet.

33.	If you find a town which looks deserted, it's probably for a reason.
  	Take the hint and stay away.

34.	If the ouija board starts moving by itself, stop playing and leave.

35.	If supernatural beings start calling your name, leave the area.

36.	Never pick up a hitchiker or stop to aid a suspicious person, 
        especially if he/she/it resembles Santa Claus.

37.	Don't food with recombinant DNA technology unless you're sure you know
  	what you are doing.

38.	Make sure that your weapon is loaded before you try to use it.

39.	Never have sex in haunted houses, especially with extradimensional 
  	beings.

40.	Never put your back to or lean on a door.

41.	Never take the dare to spend a night in a haunted house.

42.	Never speak to clowns in sewers.

43.	Never accept gifts from strangers, especially if you suspect that they
  	are supernatural beings.

44.	If you're running from the MSDC, expect to trip and/or fall down at 
  	least twice, more if you are of the female persuaion.

45.	If your companions exhibit uncharacteristic behavior such as 
        hissing, biting, thirst for blood, howling, glowing eyes, unnatural 
        hairiness, marked resemblence to demons, excretion of ectoplasm or 
        other forms of gelatinous goo, flaming appendages, extra appendages, 
        etc., get as far away from them as possible.

46.	Listen closely to the soundtrack for hints on what is going on 
        around you.  Use all resources available, especially the audience, 
        for on the average, they are much, much more intelligent than 
        you could ever hope to be.

47.	Stay away from certain geographical locations, some of which 
        are listed here: Amityville, Elm Street, Crystal Lake, 
        Transylvania, Nilbog (God help you if you recognize this one), 
        Mydian, Questa Verde, the Bermuda Triangle, or any small town in Maine.


48.	Beware of transvestite doctors that sing.

49.	Avoid secluded mountain resorts, especially those which keep 
        'Redrum' in stock.

50.     Finally, beware of strangers bearing tools of destruction such 
        as chainsaws, staple guns, chipper/shredders, weed poppers, 
        combines, lawnmowers, knives, soldering irons, stun guns, 
        flamethrowers, band saws, crossbows, napalm, grenades, catapults, 
        tactical warheads, high-powered rifles, gophers, food processors, 
        gophers in food processors, lambchops, axes, gophers wielding axes, 
        laser pistols, tanks, any weapon resembling Margaret Thatcher, 
        Alludium q-36 explosive space modulators, or any 
        weapon mom deceased companions.(Whew!)


51.  	If your friends go into a barn one by one DON'T GO IN THE BARN!!!   
        Leave ASAP.
 

52. 	If your car runs out of petrol on a dark, stormy night...DO NOT GO 
	TO THAT HAUNTED LOOKING HOUSE TO ASK TO USE THE PHONE

53. 	If you hear noises coming from an empty cupboard, DO NOT go and look 
	saying 'I wonder what that could be'

54. 	When driving at night, do NOT stop and investigate that strange light
	coming from nearby woods

55. 	When being chased through a town, try to avoid running down that dark 
	alley in the hope of escaping, because the thing chasing you will 
	undoubtedly materialise at the other end and kill you


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47.766MKFSA::LONGThe battle is joined...Fri Dec 10 1993 14:0911
	Thanks to Mac I've come up with a great idea.  I want everyone to
	tell their MIL to come to my house tonight.  Tell them it's free
	Bingo, or something.

	Kinda like a MIL Cage Match.  Only one will be left standing and
	with any luck it will be one of yunz'. 

	Don't worry about me 'cause I'll be safely away at the Legion.


	billl
47.767CAM3::WAYYou can't polish a turdFri Dec 10 1993 14:1518
>	Thanks to Mac I've come up with a great idea.  I want everyone to
>	tell their MIL to come to my house tonight.  Tell them it's free
>	Bingo, or something.
>
>	Kinda like a MIL Cage Match.  Only one will be left standing and
>	with any luck it will be one of yunz'. 
>
>	Don't worry about me 'cause I'll be safely away at the Legion.
>

Another idea for a short story....

And a classic at that....

It'll make "Ransom of Red Chief" look like small potatoes....


'Saw
47.768PTOVAX::JACOBFri Dec 10 1993 19:008
    Whatta coinkidink, billl....Recorded Seinfeld and stuff lasted night,
    and they broke in with a news story that about the archive area of
    WPXI(formerly WIIC) being ransacked and some kinda BEAST beating the
    shit out of Cardill on the way out, and the trail it's left leads
    towards the northeast area of the country.
    
    JaKe
    
47.769Please help Mac with his delusionsMETSNY::francusNY Mets/NY Jets, both TRULY SUCK!!!!Wed Jan 05 1994 14:5820
JaKe,

I am first including note 35.673 written by MtM.

--------
    xnotes apparently was hiding your notes by mistake too, TCM.  I unhid
    them.  You don't have to thank me.  Just buy me a beer at the next get
    together.
--------

I go back to note 35 and cannot see any references other than Mac's to xnotes 
and notes that were hidden. MtM has often had delusions of grandeur, but this
time he is trying to respond to something that is not even there. Whats worse
ACCCrisp and MikeH are following his lead on this. JaKe, what is happening?
Hope you can restore some sanity to this place - who would have ever thought
that request would ever be made.

Thanks for any help that you can provide those poor lost souls.

The Crazy Met
47.770PATE::MACNEALruck `n' rollWed Jan 05 1994 15:022
    Obviously TCM was hiding and now deleting his notes to try and get out
    of paying off on his p-name bet.
47.771METSNY::francusNY Mets/NY Jets, both TRULY SUCK!!!!Wed Jan 05 1994 15:195
JaKe, witness .770 and I think you'll see that not only is Mac having
these delusions of grandeur but he also can't read. Please, I can hear 
him crying out for some help.

The Crazy Met
47.772PTOVAX::JACOBBearded once againWed Jan 05 1994 19:1811
    TCpnameloser,
    
    Apparently someone in here suffers from delusions of grandeur and
    Wicked Warlock of Notes symdrome.  Throw a bucket of water on him and
    he'll be "Meeeeeeeeelting, melting (softly as cape settles on floor in
    smoldering heep)melting."
    
    And then we'll sing the song.
    
    JaKe
    
47.773METSNY::francusMets in '94Wed Jan 12 1994 18:455
JaKe, when they shovel the snow from the storm that just started 
where are they gonna put it??

The Crazy Met
     
47.774CTHQ::MCCULLOUGHLindsey is four years old!!!!Wed Jan 12 1994 18:484
47.775METSNY::francusMets in '94Wed Jan 12 1994 18:535
=Bob=

you named JaKe?? wise guy! :-)

The Crazy Met
47.776PTOVAX::JACOBWed Jan 12 1994 19:296
    I heard that thy hired Rush limbaugh to fly in and start spewing all
    the hot air he normally spew, thereby melting all the freakin snow with
    a 100 mile radius faster than an H-Bomb.
    
    JaKe
    
47.777;-)FRETZ::HEISERit ain't meWed Jan 12 1994 19:571
    Anyone from New York could do that.
47.778CSTEAM::FARLEYThu Jan 13 1994 15:226
    
    
    	Yabbut if ya want me to do it, first ya gotta buy this bridge
    I'm sellin!
    
    
47.779fer cash only....CSTEAM::FARLEYThu Jan 13 1994 15:221
    
47.780get me outta this placeFRETZ::HEISERMatthew 5:18Tue Jan 18 1994 14:576
    Jake, I'm sick of going to school and not having a life.  I'm seriously
    thinking of switching my major from CS to something with a quicker path
    like CIS.  What should I do?
    
    Phrustrated in Phoenix,
    Mike
47.781CAMONE::WAYHorseshoes and hand-grenades, manTue Jan 18 1994 15:2319
>    Jake, I'm sick of going to school and not having a life.  I'm seriously


Ditch school.  Get yourself a "Tommy Brydie Reading List", get a subscription
to the Symphony.  Watch cult classic films.  Take a trip to Paris.

Play 'Wheel of Fortune' at home.  Learn to speak Russian.  Make a list
of new and fun things you can do with peanut butter.  Change your oil
blindfolded.  Bungee jump.  Sky dive, but make sure your insurance is
paid up.


Those are just a few of the many exciting things you can do to help yourself
get a life.   


'Saw

PS  I know I'm not Jake, but he lets me answer sometimes when he's not in....
47.782FRETZ::HEISERMatthew 5:18Tue Jan 18 1994 16:463
    I need to finish school to prove something.  I just want the
    shortest/quickest path so I can gain my old life back (which even
    included some of your cool suggestions).
47.783maybeHBAHBA::HAASParty when you can, rock til you dropTue Jan 18 1994 16:5110
Possibles:
1. Quit and make the ol' lady support you.
2. Take a leave of absence, make the ol' lady support you and maybe with
   a little luck Digital will still be doing business in Arizona.
3. Take a leave of absence, make the ol' lady support you and maybe with
   a little luck Digital won't still be doing business in Arizona.
4. Take a bunch of classes by exam and/or self-paced.
5. Quit trying to prove something, relax, lay back and enjoy it.

TTom
47.784CAMONE::WAYHorseshoes and hand-grenades, manTue Jan 18 1994 17:1115
I firmly believe that you learn more in a year of real living that you
could in 10 years of school.

Life is too short Mike.  If you're not that committed to school, quit.

If you are, you might see if they have a program similar to what they
have at Wesleyan here in CT.   I believe Trinity has a similar program.

At any rate, you are assigned an advisor and then you and the advisor
tailor the program to your needs...  YOu meet on a regular basis
but are not necessarily attending any classes.   The program was set up
for folks like us who might not have the time commitment for school during
traditional class hours due to work etc.

It's worth exploring...
47.785(8^)*PTOVAX::JACOBTue Jan 18 1994 18:5210
    Mike,
    
    Go buy all the Air Supply albums ya can get yer hands on, find an old
    turntable, play them at maximum volume at 78 speed, the backward
    masking they used only comes thru at 78 speed and it will bestow on you
    not only the knowledge of a scholar, but the meaning of life, and the
    ability to make good pancakes.
    
    JaKe
    
47.786"Making love out of nothing at all"METSNY::francusMets in '94Tue Jan 18 1994 19:074
JaKe's cracked. This weather plus taking care of 6 kids this week has
sent him completely over the edge.

The Crazy Met
47.787you're way gross, manFRETZ::HEISERMatthew 5:18Tue Jan 18 1994 20:032
    Well I tried that, at least between trips vomiting in the bathroom, and
    it didn't work.
47.788PTOVAX::JACOBTue Jan 18 1994 20:1912
    Well, then the next thing I cain suggest is to get all of the Bread
    albums ya cain find, play them backwards at 16rpm. You'll either be
    enlightened or see God.
    
    Bobby Goldsboro's "Honey", when played at normal speed(if anything with
    that song cain be termed normal) and listened to for 48 hours straight,
    may inspire some thinking on your part that could be considered
    inovative, or perverted or whatever.  Come to think of it, Jeffrey
    Dahmer probably did that once and look where he is today.
    
    JaKe
    
47.789FRETZ::HEISERMatthew 5:18Tue Jan 18 1994 20:213
    I've already seen God.  He told me to finish school so I can better
    take care of my family.  He also said I'm going to the hot place if I
    play anymore Axx Sxxxxx or Bread drivel.
47.790PATE::MACNEALruck `n' rollTue Jan 18 1994 20:221
    So what are you asking Jake for?
47.791METSNY::francusMets in '94Tue Jan 18 1994 20:253
for a minute there he mistook JaKe for god.

The Crazy Met
47.792should I switch?FRETZ::HEISERMatthew 5:18Tue Jan 18 1994 20:251
    see .780
47.793you should know that TCMFRETZ::HEISERMatthew 5:18Tue Jan 18 1994 20:261
    G_d is not a physical being, Jake is.
47.794METSNY::francusMets in '94Tue Jan 18 1994 20:276
> G_d is not a physical being, Jake is.

well seeing as you've never met him you can think of him as an ephemeral (sp?)
presence.

The Crazy Met
47.795I vote noFRETZ::HEISERMatthew 5:18Tue Jan 18 1994 20:301
    Is YHWH a physical being?
47.796PATE::MACNEALruck `n' rollTue Jan 18 1994 20:311
    next subject...
47.797GWEN::ASHEThank you Dr. King.Tue Jan 18 1994 20:362
    How about some good Olivia Newton-John?  I mean, before Grease...
    
47.798METSNY::francusMikeH, well we were sort of in agreementTue Jan 18 1994 20:435
Walt,

that's like saying the Bee Gees before Saturday Night Fever.

The Crazy Met
47.799QUASER::JACKSONTABabe HockeyTue Jan 18 1994 20:467
    re-1
    
      Good Olivia?  Aren't you a Hillary fan too?
    
      Add these 2 together and it makes MikeH wanna puke for me(-)
    
      Tim
47.800800 snarfedFRETZ::HEISERMatthew 5:18Tue Jan 18 1994 21:002
    
    
47.801PTOVAX::JACOBTue Jan 18 1994 23:3719
    If you've already done my firsted two suggestions, maybe you should go
    out and buy the "Up with People" complete video collection, 71 hours of
    useless crap, including all the Super Bowl halftime shows where nobody
    at home was watching, and most of the stadium was wretching.  Watch
    this non-stop(sleep deprivation is a wonderful thang for Arizonians)
    then go out, purchase an Uzi, and go play Post Office.  Uncle Sam will
    put you up in a nice room, with a roommate probably the size of
    Sasquatch, and you'll be able to take all the college courses ya wants
    and we, the taxpayers will pay fer it.  Then ya cain get a high
    falouting lawyer to show that ya did it because the Doctor slapped ya
    in the face instead of the ass(he couldn't tell the difference, EITHER)
    and you'll get out scot-free(not to be confused with Scot-tissue) and
    get a job as a US Senator making massive quantites of dollars and doing
    nothing at all.
    
    Schnorttt Schittt Schleppps
    
    JaKe
    
47.802MSE1::FRANCUSMets in '94Wed Jan 19 1994 02:1516
    re: .795
    
    hey keep religion out of this :-0
    
    re: .799
    
    hey keep politics out of it - your making Mac look like he's playing
    favorites.
    
    re: .801
    
    way to go JaKe. btw thanks for the email copy of it which will be
    freely available if needed.
    
    The Crazy Met
    
47.803PATE::MACNEALruck `n' rollWed Jan 19 1994 13:014
47.804FRETZ::HEISERMatthew 5:18Wed Jan 19 1994 14:433
    Rat on Jake.  Then I could be like the local ex-convict/murderer who
    took pre-law in the big house and is now in ASU's law college.  The
    local scum known as lawyers are having a fit over it.
47.805I'm so ashamed JaKe. So very very shamed. [sniff,sniff]RHETT::KNORRCarolina BlueWed Jan 19 1994 17:107
    JaKe, what's it say about me that not only do I want Tonya Harding to
    stick on the Olympic team but I hope she wins a Gold with a stunning
    performance after Nancy Kerrigan falls on her butt and runs off the ice
    wimpering and crying.
    
    
    - ACC Chris
47.806METSNY::francusMets in '94Wed Jan 19 1994 17:403
just that you're becoming more and more like JaKe and less and less like Dean.

The Crazy Met
47.807Captain and Tenille on the other hand (smiley)GWEN::ASHEThank you Dr. King.Wed Jan 19 1994 20:164
    I was kidding about Olivia...
    
    And no, I'm looking to nail Hilary.
    
47.808PTOVAX::JACOBWed Jan 19 1994 20:265
    Chris, it means you'd probably like to do Amy Fisher, too, and maybe
    Pam Smart.
            
    JaKe
    
47.809makes me long for "Bennie and Cecile"CNTROL::CHILDSI need a Rasberry LollipopThu Feb 10 1994 15:4012
Jake,

	I'm having a crisis at home. My kids have suddenly become hooked
on probably the worst kids' show of all time the "Mighty Morphin Power 
Rangers". I can't believe this stuff sells. Even if I'm lucky enough
to get home late or not have to sit through the show with them, they
torture me with the details during supper...I'm loosing my mind SOS!!

 ;^)

mike
47.810SALEM::DODAYou must conformThu Feb 10 1994 15:497
Mike,

I feel for ya. I'm going through it myself. Have they been 
through Capt. Planet yet?

ugh.
daryll
47.811GENRAL::WADEThu Feb 10 1994 17:1411
    
    	You guys think you got it bad?  I've got one old enough to
    	be into the Power Rangers/Capt. Planet and another young
    	enough to worship Barney!  Patooooey!
    
    	However, I am getting to watch some cool Disney and Dr. Seuss
    	videos.........
    
    	Did I just say that?  
    
    Claybone
47.812MSBCS::BRYDIEI need somebody to shove!Thu Feb 10 1994 17:168
    
      >> However, I am getting to watch some cool Disney and Dr. Seuss
      >> videos.........
    
         Short shameful confession:
    
         I use my nephew as an excuse to watch Darkwing Duck.
         
47.813GENRAL::WADEThu Feb 10 1994 17:208
    
    	Heh heh.  I know what you mean Tommy.  I had the pleasure of
    	watching all the Johnny Quest cartoons over again with my
    	oldest.  He acts like this is some great, NEW cartoon.  Blew
    	his little mind when he found out dad used to watch JQ when
    	he was his age.
    
    Claybone
47.814CAMONE::WAYHorseshoes and hand-grenades, manThu Feb 10 1994 17:2310
Johnny Quest, Hadji, Race Bannon, Dr. Quest, and Bandit....

What a cast of characters.


But what I'd really like to get my grubby little mitts on is the old
Space Angels cartoon series.....


'Saw
47.815Spaaaaaaaace Ghost ROOLZ! :*) GENRAL::WADEMy head's in MississippiThu Feb 10 1994 17:241
    
47.816METSNY::francusBilllls in '94Thu Feb 10 1994 17:253
what is Power Rangers??

The Crazy Met
47.817CAMONE::WAYHorseshoes and hand-grenades, manThu Feb 10 1994 17:276
>                     -< Spaaaaaaaace Ghost ROOLZ!  :*)   >-

Tommy, do you remember Astro-Boy?

    

47.818Baby Races?AKOCOA::BREENThu Feb 10 1994 17:396
    I see Sonic the Hedgehog has a tv show and Mario a movie. A couple of
    Phil's (4 3/4 yrs) favorites..  He has mastered Mario III - I'm working on 
    world I, level 4 (those moving platforms, phil's trying to teach me).
    
    	Have you seen baby races?  Beethoven - that and 101 Dal'ians - big
    hits.
47.819Actually "Alladin" is one of the funiest movies I've seen in the last couple yearsCTHQ::MCCULLOUGHLindsey is four years old!!!!Thu Feb 10 1994 17:411
Just don't make me watch f*&^ing Lambchop!
47.820SALEM::DODAYou must conformThu Feb 10 1994 17:568
You guys must have the Cartoon Network huh?

Space Ghost, Johnny Quest, Fantastic 4 are all featured on 
Boomerang!

I went out and bought Josh a few Speed Racer tapes, he loves em!

daryll
47.821Did YOU rub my lamp?TNPUBS::ALVEYHeather be Thy name...Thu Feb 10 1994 18:005
yeah Sherri Lewis was lame when I was a kid
and she's worse now.
My kids are on notice that the TV goes out on the driveway
if Daddy ever hears "The Song That Doesn't End" again.
dr.a
47.822USCTR1::KINGCemeteries = Parks with nice stones...Thu Feb 10 1994 18:106
    THE SONG THAT NEVERS ENDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I was stupid enought to ask the Jessinator what it was....
    
    Jesse has 9 episodes of Power Rangers.......
    
    REK
47.823FRETZ::HEISERHey! Ho! Hey! Ho! Hey! Ho! Hey! Ho!Thu Feb 10 1994 18:132
    Power Rangers is a new kids' show featuring 5 adolescents who can morph
    into these super-ninja types.
47.824Go Umass...DECWET::METZGER8 days...Thu Feb 10 1994 19:1027
Power rangers is made for merchandising TV at it's finest...It's a combination
of autobots and superheros stuff...the toys were in the store before the show
was even aired...

Cool cartoons..

Doug and Rugrats on Nick..(rugrats is especially cool)
XMen on Fox...

Katie's been into 1 Disney sing along tape for about 3 weeks now....My wife
unconsciously hums it around the  house and when Katie hears it..."Tape, Tape,
zippity, zippity"...ugh...

I'll be getting my broken VCR fixed soon so that she can go up into her room
and watch tapes when daddy wants to watch last nights NYPD Blue...

We did teach her to say "Umass hoops" the other day though...

Luckily she sleeps past Lamb chop now. I watch shining time station with her
"Schemer" and read the paper during barney....then it's tv off for the rest of
the day...

The seasame street 25th aniversary tape with En vogue and Ladysmith Black
Mazambo is pretty good though...

Metz
47.825(8^0*PTOVAX::JACOBThu Feb 10 1994 19:1216
    Power Rnagers/Capt.Planet/Ninja Turtles is all brainwashing crap laden
    onto the minds of the gullible...er...young enough kids who watch it. 
    Hidden in those "cartoons"(not REAL cartoons, just asshole shows
    promoting violence as a means to an end) are subliminal messages
    telling kids to take Dad's power tools and emulate the brain daid idjut
    who dropped the bowling bowl thru a windshield killing an 8 month old,
    among other things.
    
    Get yerself a cauldron of oil, boil the oil, drop a common rodent into
    it, while the kids are watching.  After extracting the now-dead/crispy
    critter from the oil, warn them that that's their fate should they EVER
    watch one of those shows again.
    
    
    JaKe
    
47.826PTOVAX::JACOBThu Feb 10 1994 19:135
    Also, when I was Santa at the mall, the # of kids requesting Power
    Rangers and Turtle crap was massive.  Makes ya wonder.
    
    JaKe
    
47.827METSNY::francusBilllls in '94Thu Feb 10 1994 19:193
yabbut JaKe hiw many kids asked for Cheese Whiz??

The Crazy Met
47.828(8^)*PTOVAX::JACOBThu Feb 10 1994 19:2212
    
>>             <<< Note 47.827 by METSNY::francus "Billlls in '94" >>>

>>yabbut JaKe hiw many kids asked for Cheese Whiz??

    Just one, this sorta big kid, wearing sunglasses, dark short hair,
    looked like a rugby type player, spoke with a Connecticut accent, sorta
    big fer the 6 year old he said he was!!!!
    
    JaKe
    
    
47.829SALEM::DODAYou must conformThu Feb 10 1994 19:255
Anyone ever watch the "Two Stupid Dogs" toon on Nick?

A riot.

daryll
47.830As the stomach turns...CTHQ::LEARYCorporate Telecom Technology SolutionsThu Feb 10 1994 19:494
    Where's Mac when you need him....
    
    MikeL
    
47.831I gots to knowSALEM::DODAYou must conformThu Feb 10 1994 19:546
Who the hail is that with Elton John in the video for the new 
cover of "Don't go Breakin my Heart"?

Scary.

daryll
47.832PTOVAX::JACOBThu Feb 10 1994 19:564
    Beats me!!!
    
    JaKe
    
47.833CSTEAM::FARLEYThu Feb 10 1994 20:0510
    
    
    
    He-Man Rooooles!!!
    
    
    and so do the Care Bears!
    
    ;^)
    
47.834CSTEAM::FARLEYThu Feb 10 1994 20:056
    
    
    So does Liono and the Thunder Cats!!!!!
    
    
    
47.835CARE BEAR STARE!!!DYPSS1::ROPERTake a Sad Song and Make it BetterThu Feb 10 1994 20:081
    
47.836FRETZ::HEISERHey! Ho! Hey! Ho! Hey! Ho! Hey! Ho!Thu Feb 10 1994 20:081
    whatever happened to Kiki Dee?
47.837Git a rubber room!!CTHQ::LEARYCorporate Telecom Technology SolutionsThu Feb 10 1994 20:131
    
47.838power rangers suck!QUASER::JACKSONTAPay me $32mil to spewThu Feb 10 1994 20:4116
      Power Rangers now have 6 dweebs.  The episode aired 2-3 days ago. My
    kids like to watch it,  but I do my best to keep 'em busy during this
    show.
    
      Jonny Quest is a great one, and my kids love it.  Taped Jonny's
    golden quest.
    
      X-man and he-man is another favorite.
    
    
      Its ironic someone mentioned what all these ninja shows are doing to
    kids.  I'm having problems with my son's "kicking".  I'm getting ready
    to enter him in a karate class.  Maybe some different disipline will
    help.
    
      Tim 
47.839MSE1::FRANCUSBilllls in '94Thu Feb 10 1994 22:1813
    JaKe,
    
    Please explain how these weather forecasters blow it so badly. 
    Monday night they say that
    Boston will get 4-8 inches of snow and that the snow will begin on
    Tuesday afternoon. Well the storm begins Tuesday morning it lasts about
    2 days and we end up with a 
    
    Long Dong Silver's  - 18 inches - worth of snow.
    
    what gives?
    
    The Crazy Met
47.840PTOVAX::JACOBFri Feb 11 1994 05:1537
>>    JaKe,
    
>>    Please explain how these weather forecasters blow it so badly. 
>>    Monday night they say that
>>    Boston will get 4-8 inches of snow and that the snow will begin on
>>    Tuesday afternoon. Well the storm begins Tuesday morning it lasts about
>>    2 days and we end up with a 
  
Forecasting should be talked about in the "dart" note.  These guys go out
swilling, look at the weather fer everybody about 300 miles west of them, then
throw the darts at the board fer accumulation amounts.
  
>>    Long Dong Silver's  - 18 inches - worth of snow.
      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Rollward, TM that sucker.


I will say this, they should simplify the way they report their prediciton of
accumulation amounts to a system sort a like what you used, lessee, it could be
something like this:

New Terminology					Predicted accumulation
MAC						1/2 to 3 inches

John Bobbitt					Predict 8 inches but ya only
						get 3

John Holmes					12-16 inches

And yer "Long Dong Silver"			18 inches and above


Schnorttt Schittt Schleppps

JaKe

47.841CAMONE::WAYHorseshoes and hand-grenades, manFri Feb 11 1994 11:4924
Pretty simple -- they don't have equipment that's sophisticated enough to
model things with a high degree of certainty.

The interesting thing is that they are accurate a lot more than they
used to be, if you look at the big picture.

In this area, the Hurricane of '38 was totally unexpected and wiped out
a lot of people.  Nowadays they can track that stuff.

But, what I've noticed is that they don't seem to be able to model and
forecast when a pressure system is going to stall or slow down, with the
degree of certainty that they do other things.

For example, this storm today was supposed to pass south of us, because
the High over northern New England was supposed to keep the storm south
of us.  (If I remember my meteorology from college, High pressure 'bleeds
into' low)   Anyway, the Low proved stronger, and we're getting snow.


But look on the bright side.  In about 8 weeks, snow will be a distant
memory......


'SAw
47.842METSNY::francusBilllls in '94Fri Feb 11 1994 12:463
and snow on Saturday night into Sunday. Bali Hai is calling ...

The Crazy Met
47.843voice of experienceFRETZ::HEISERHey! Ho! Hey! Ho! Hey! Ho! Hey! Ho!Fri Feb 11 1994 13:564
>    kids.  I'm having problems with my son's "kicking".  I'm getting ready
>    to enter him in a karate class.  Maybe some different disipline will
    
    that doesn't always help curb the "kicking"
47.84438346::MACNEALruck `n' rollFri Feb 11 1994 16:252
    Lately Shining Time Station and Barney are losing out to The Magic Box
    and Kitty Cats in our house.
47.845HANNAH::ASHEDon't ask me, I'm just the adviserFri Feb 11 1994 17:483
    re .831
    Rupaul
    
47.846Whatta ya mean I'm in a hospital!!!!!!!!!!!!!!WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_MHall of Fame #75Tue Feb 22 1994 15:0120
    
    
    Jake,
    
    
         Er.. A friend of mine was in a car accident earlier this month
    yeah a friend thats the ticket. Well apparently HIS doctor gave him bed
    rest. Heres the Question.
    
         He belongs to a what shall I say aaaaa elite club of noters see!
    
        If he got addicted to General Hospital while I i mean he was out
    would his comrades think any less of him?
    
       If no.
            
    
        Do you believe that Frisco is coming back???????   :-)
    
    Chappy
47.847CAMONE::WAYHorseshoes and hand-grenades, manTue Feb 22 1994 15:2620
>        If he got addicted to General Hospital while I i mean he was out
>    would his comrades think any less of him?
    

Chappy, I wouldn't think any less of you, not at all.

Why, I know a few former noters (ie, folks who got the axe) who developed
quite a liking to some of that type of entertainment.

Personally, when I'm home sick, I don't watch, because, well, I could
get addicted too.....


Can't help you on your other question, becuase it's not one I watch....
(Although is that the one with the babe that kept imagining she was
seducing different guys on the show by pulling them into the bathtub
with her?????)


'Saw
47.848go HoyasCNTROL::CHILDSI need a Rasberry LollipopTue Feb 22 1994 16:171
welcome back Chappy. glad you're ok....
47.849Go HoyasWMOIS::CHAPALONIS_MHall of Fame #75Tue Feb 22 1994 16:2310
    
    
         Thanks Mike, Can't damage this head... 
    
    
          Hoyas to be ranked nexted week ;-)
    
    
    
    Chappy
47.850CAMONE::WAYHorseshoes and hand-grenades, manTue Feb 22 1994 16:243
>         Thanks Mike, Can't damage this head... 
    
Spoken like a true Yankee fan.......8^)    
47.851RBTLWMOIS::CHAPALONIS_MHall of Fame #75Tue Feb 22 1994 16:255
    
    
    
    
    COUGH1918BELCH
47.852CAMONE::WAYHorseshoes and hand-grenades, manTue Feb 22 1994 16:549
>    
>    COUGH1918BELCH
>

8^)


You couldn't have been hit in the haid too hard!  

47.853PTOVAX::JACOBTue Feb 22 1994 18:5813
    Nah, Chappy, should not be a problem.
    
    Mrs. JaKe used to watch "Days of Our Lives" all the time, and I had
    pneumonia way back when the Challenger blew up, and got addicted to it. 
    Thanksfully, though, I borke that addicition.
    
    As per somebody coming back, probably will.  In "Days" they kill off
    characters and bring them back with the same frequency the Clinton
    lies.
    
    
    JaKe
    
47.854AKOCOA::BREENTue Feb 22 1994 19:338
     >  As per somebody coming back, probably will.  In "Days" they kill off
    >    characters and bring them back with the same frequency the Clinton
    
    Like in wrestling.  Remember those blond "brothers" a few years back.
    They would change leagues, venues, hair color and name every few years.
    
    And Chappy.  There's a video out "Weddings of General Hospital".  Got
    it for my wife for Valentine's.
47.855The bigger quiestion is look what happen'd to sports without a raider fan ?OURGNG::RIGGENDigital the Binary company 0 or 1 that's allWed Feb 23 1994 20:177
The real problem isn't that you gots addicted to the stuff it is admitting you
have a problem. 

Now all of these sprots menbers recite after me Ice dancing is a Sissy sport 
and I'm ashamed for wasting disk space discussing it.

Jeff "who didn't watch Ice Dancing but did watch Star Trek TNG and Deep Space 9"
47.856Get it right JeffBSS::MENDEZWed Feb 23 1994 21:085
    Riggen
    
    Repeat after me Ice Dancing is a "Cindy" sport not "Sissy" sport.
    Soccer is a "Sissy" sport.;*
    
47.857Hot times on the Westside!BSS::NEUZILJust call me FredWed Feb 23 1994 21:3714
<<< Note 47.855 by OURGNG::RIGGEN "Digital the Binary company 0 or 1 that's all" >>>
     -< The bigger quiestion is look what happen'd to sports without a r >-


Jeff "who didn't watch Ice Dancing but did watch Star Trek TNG and Deep Space 9"
                                                                               ^

	Geez Jeff,

	When first reading this, I didn't notice that the " at the end of this
	was the endquote mark.  I thought it was the abbreviation for inches and
	thought you were watching porno movies!

	Kevin
47.858I'm gonna pukeQUASER::JACKSONTALong lost recipeWed Feb 23 1994 21:386
      Fur crying out loud, I thought I was bad watching an Okra show once
    or twice a month.  Being addicted to Soaps is bad news.  If I were you,
    I would go out and find the best shrink $$$ can buy or just wash your
    mouth out with soap.  If that doesn't cure you, then nothing will.
    
      Tim
47.859FRETZ::HEISERmost corrupt White House everTue Mar 08 1994 15:302
    whatever happened to the "Big Guys" topic?  have you guys given up
    already?!
47.860PTOVAX::JACOBIt rains toads...Tue Mar 08 1994 20:1712
    
    >>whatever happened to the "Big Guys" topic?  have you guys given up
    >>already?!
    
    That was in the lasted incarnation of SPROTS. Never started one up in
    this incarnation.
    
    I am, however, losing weight again(put most of it back on, now trying
    to remove it again).
    
    JaKe
    
47.861FRETZ::HEISERmost corrupt White House everTue Mar 08 1994 20:191
    are you dieting or exercising like a real main?
47.862PTOVAX::JACOBIt rains toads...Tue Mar 08 1994 20:2610
    
    >>are you dieting or exercising like a real main?
    
    Yes.
    
    Actually, I quit eating everything in sight that wasn't bolted down,
    and started walking, not just from the couch to the kitchen, again.
    
    JaKe
    
47.863FRETZ::HEISERmost corrupt White House everTue Mar 08 1994 20:294
    try something more cardiovascular.  There was a time (years ago) when I 
    used to workout to that Gilad show on ESPN (Bodies in Motion). 
    Probably one of the best and most complete workouts you'll get.  It's not
    a bad route to go if you're the type that needs some coaching or direction.
47.864He's the one (Gilard) who works out with Marines, n'est-ce pas?AKOCOA::BREENTue Mar 08 1994 20:371
    
47.865PTOVAX::JACOBIt rains toads...Tue Mar 08 1994 20:4111
    
    >>try something more cardiovascular.  There was a time (years ago) when I 
    
    Excuuuuuuuuuuuuuse me, oh Arizonian with the re-fried brain(8^)*, but
    walking, according to all of the stuff I've read on it, is damned good
    cardiovascular exercise.  If you seen the hills I go up and down, and
    the 3 mile course I do in about 40-45 minutes, you'd understand(well,
    with you, maybe not(8^)*)
    
    JaKe
    
47.866PATE::MACNEALruck `n' rollTue Mar 08 1994 20:421
    I told ya, Jake.  You shoulda taken up rugby.
47.867CSC32::GAULKETue Mar 08 1994 20:4315
    
    
    >> Gilad show on ESPN 
    
      There used to be a triage in half hour segments in the a.m. on
    ESPN, right when the little Jakesters  leave for school.
    
      it was Denise Austin, then Basic Training (with Gilads sister), 
    and then Bodies in Motion, kind of like a beginner, novice, 
    and then advanced  progression. 
    
      Check it out Jake, 90 minutes a day (with breaks on the half hour)
    and you'll be svelte in 3 months.
    
      
47.868as Steve confirmedFRETZ::HEISERmost corrupt White House everTue Mar 08 1994 20:451
    Jake, walking is fine, but it will only get you to a certain level.  
47.869re: .867 - have you no compassion? :-)METSNY::francusMets in '94Tue Mar 08 1994 20:545
One little Jakester is not yet in school. It is likely that Nathan
would suffer severe psychological damage watching his father, JaKe, doing
those exercises.

The Crazy Met
47.870PTOVAX::JACOBIt rains toads...Tue Mar 08 1994 20:555
    Eat my Shorts, you Mucking Fets fan.  Although, the flying flab would
    pose a danger to the little kid, wouldn't it???
    
    JaKe
    
47.871PTOVAX::JACOBIt rains toads...Tue Mar 08 1994 20:565
    Anyways, about that time, Nathan's firmly engrossed in watching Barney
    and Sesame Street and Mr. Rogers.  I ain't got a 2nd TeeVee.
    
    JaKe
    
47.872squash BarneyMETSNY::francusMets in '94Tue Mar 08 1994 20:597
Well if Nathan is watching Barney then it would be merciful of you to
change the channel.

I though Barney was basically for 2 and 3 year olds; Nathan should be past
that point by now.

The Crazy Met
47.873(8^)*PTOVAX::JACOBIt rains toads...Tue Mar 08 1994 21:058
    Barney is aimed at pre-schoolers up to about 5.
    
    So, yer able to watch it TCM and know yer in the same mental class as
    the others watching it, hell, it's better for ya than watching the
    Mucking Fets go thru another losing season.
    
    JaKe
    
47.874DYPSS1::ROPERTake a Sad Song and Make it BetterTue Mar 08 1994 21:539
    Jake, I lost 54 pounds last year and have kept it off for 9 months now. 
    I accomplished the weight loss by cutting as much saturated fat as
    possible from my diet.  I've maintained my eating habits since the
    weight has come off.  Another thing I do to help maintain is run/jog
    about 3 times a week for approximately 15-20 minutes an outing.
    
    Good luck,
    
    Rope
47.875PTOVAX::JACOBIt rains toads...Wed Mar 09 1994 00:568
    thanks fer the incouragement, Rope.
    
    I've cut my fat intake way down, and cut out all of the garbage I was
    piling in, although I allow myself a "treat" every now and then(not
    every hour, more like once every two weeks).
    
    JaKe
    
47.876CAMONE::WAYI did it my way...(thump)Wed Mar 09 1994 11:1713
If you're heavy, walking is EXCELLENT, mainly because it doesn't
stress your knees.  Sometimes you need to get to one level before
you take it to the next one....

You lightweight guys wouldn't know about that 8^).


That being said, I'm about to hit the fitness trail again myself, having
to shed at least 20, more like 25, to be happy and feeling good again.
Course, hitting the gym to will make those numbers totally meaningless
too......

'SAw
47.877DZIGN::ROBICHAUDBreastfed on falsiesWed Mar 09 1994 16:524
    	I used to like the original 20 Minute Workout show that was
    shown locally on TV38.  Just watching would get my pulse rate up.
    
    				/Don
47.878been a whileFRETZ::HEISERmost corrupt White House everWed Mar 09 1994 17:041
    I remember Gilad had a sister that was fairly attractive too.
47.879TNPUBS::MCCULLOUGHGotta go running - April is comingWed Mar 09 1994 17:198
JaKester

Youze right on with the program.  When I lost my wieght (30 lbs, 165 to 135) I 
cut my fat intake all but out.  Walkign is indeed the perfect form of exercise 
to burn calories and strengthen your heart.  If you reach a point where the walk
is not a challenge, THEN you can introduce other exercises (workouts, running,
basketball, etc.)  DON'T dive into something that is very demanding on your 
heart right away.  'Specially at your age.
47.880CAMONE::WAYFire at will!....(Will who?)Wed Mar 09 1994 17:366
>'Specially at your age.


Jake is starting to count his birthdays in Lee_Years!


47.881FRETZ::HEISERmost corrupt White House everWed Mar 09 1994 17:391
    ...and that's after graduating from dog years!
47.882METSNY::francusMets in '94Wed Mar 09 1994 18:053
so what does billte count his years in?? :-)

The Crazy Met
47.883light yearsFRETZ::HEISERmost corrupt White House everWed Mar 09 1994 18:191
    
47.884TNPUBS::MCCULLOUGHGotta go running - April is comingWed Mar 09 1994 18:373
47.885PTOVAX::JACOBIt rains toads...Wed Mar 09 1994 18:3717
    
>>'Specially at your age.

    Do me =bob=!!!
    

>>Jake is starting to count his birthdays in Lee_Years!
    
    Eat my shorts, Sawmain!!!     (8^)*
    
    Actually, I ain't hit the big four-OH yet, and won't for some time, so
    I ain't anywhere nears Lee_Years, YET!!!
    
    (8^)*
    
    JaKe
    
47.886Jack Benny taught me that little trickAKOCOA::BREENWed Mar 09 1994 20:478
    Tommy help me out here
    
    	A G E    D I S C R I M I N A T I O N  !!!!!!
    
    And, since I'm a Sharp drink'n, sport'n type of main's main I'll
    answer..
    
    I count 'em in 39s  - I got a bunch of 39th birth days stacked up
47.887SWAM1::OHL_TAOuch! Ice burns to the face!Thu Mar 10 1994 19:532
    You all shouldn't be concerned with the pounds, it's the inches and
    colesterol that make a difference.
47.888CAMONE::WAYFire at will!....(Will who?)Thu Mar 10 1994 19:576
>    You all shouldn't be concerned with the pounds, it's the inches and
>    colesterol that make a difference.

Actually, I should get fat tested.  What with putting on muscles versus
losing weight and stuff the only constant is body fat %-age....

47.889SWAM1::OHL_TAOuch! Ice burns to the face!Thu Mar 10 1994 20:253
    And remember, muscle weighs 2% more than fat so the pounds can be
    misleading.
    
47.890CAMONE::WAYFire at will!....(Will who?)Fri Mar 11 1994 11:118
>
>    And remember, muscle weighs 2% more than fat so the pounds can be
>    misleading.

I know that -- that's why I said that the index I try to go by is
body fat percentage.....
    

47.891SWAM1::OHL_TAOuch! Ice burns to the face!Fri Mar 11 1994 22:205
    Oh sorry.
    
    Just ditzy ole me
    
    
47.892CSTEAM::FARLEYWed Mar 23 1994 19:249
    
    Yabbut JaKe,
    
    	Even though he's gone, is it OK to call Eric Monstross a cretin?
    
    I remain,
    unable to find the answer in my Miss Manners book
    Kev
    
47.893METSNY::francusMets in '94Wed Mar 23 1994 19:268
> Even though he's gone, is it OK to call Eric Monstross a cretin?

In ::SPROTS that is always acceptable.

HtH

The Crazy Met

47.894PTOVAX::JACOBWed Mar 23 1994 19:318
    
    >>	Even though he's gone, is it OK to call Eric Monstross a cretin?
    
    Who's Eric Montross???   Didn't he used to play in a band wif Sammy
    Hagar???
    
    JaKe
    
47.895idleHBAHBA::HAASxen yen zenWed Mar 23 1994 19:343
Nah, he's one of them Monty Python guys.

TTom
47.896PTOVAX::JACOBWed Mar 23 1994 19:355
    Nah, that was Eric Idle, I still think that Montross played with Sammy
    Hagar, maybe even did something musical, too!!
    
    JaKe
    
47.897Isn't he a security guard on Night Court?AKOCOA::BREENAnd thy work is crown'dWed Mar 23 1994 19:421
    
47.898PTOVAX::JACOBWed Mar 23 1994 19:454
    Nah, that was "Bull" wasn't it??
    
    JaKe
    
47.899what's the deal?CNTROL::CHILDSDean's gone fishin'Wed Mar 23 1994 19:509
 Jake,

	Is this your new part-time job now that you're not playing Santa
 anymore???????????


Thursday, March 24:
	--Queer, Sugarbitch, Joywheel, Jake The Puppet Master @ Middleeast up
	++Heretix, Home @ Paradise     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
47.900OooopsPTOVAX::JACOBWed Mar 23 1994 20:086
    Yeah, I do the Marx Bros.  Groucho on the left hand, Zeppo on the right
    hand, and the non-talking Harpo peaks thru the curtain a bit below the
    stage every now and then.
    
    JaKe
    
47.901SOLANA::MAY_BRTFO has been TFSO'dWed Mar 23 1994 21:465
   > Nah, that was Eric Idle, I still think that Montross played
    
    Didn't you watch him play D on Sunday?  Idle Eric is quite appropriate.
    
    brews
47.902PTOVAX::JACOBWed Mar 23 1994 21:505
    As stated elsewhere, seldom do I waste my time watching something as
    mundane as backsketbrawl.
    
    JaKe
    
47.903USCTR1::KINGCemeteries = Parks with nice stones...Tue Apr 12 1994 12:5211
    Jake, this lasted weekend Donna (wifey) and I were talking
    about how long we have been married. I mention to Donna that
    we were married 7 years and I was getting the 7-year-itch.
    She said that she knows exactly how I feel....
    
    
    She went through all that when she had the 5-year-itch....
    
    Should I ask here how she handled it?
    
    REK
47.904best I could think of on short noticeCSTEAM::FARLEYTue Apr 12 1994 13:168
    
    
    	Yabbut, maybe she handled it by getting the dawg so the fleas would
    jump off her and then she wouldn't itch no more???????
    
    ;^)
    
    
47.905PTOVAX::JACOBLord &amp; Master of a fool's Taj MahalTue Apr 12 1994 19:3919
    

    >>Jake, this lasted weekend Donna (wifey) and I were talking
    >>about how long we have been married. I mention to Donna that
    >>we were married 7 years and I was getting the 7-year-itch.
    >>She said that she knows exactly how I feel....
    
    >>She went through all that when she had the 5-year-itch....
    
    >>Should I ask here how she handled it?
    
    Was that the year she was contunually sendin' you to the store fer
    batteries??????
    
    JaKe
    
    REK

    
47.906USCTR1::KINGCemeteries = Parks with nice stones...Tue Apr 12 1994 19:475
    Now that the Sprite is cleaned off the screen.....
    
    Batteries and cigarettes.... 
    
    REK
47.907PTOVAX::JACOBDamn, that toe hurts!!!!!Tue Apr 12 1994 19:5018
    
    >>Now that the Sprite is cleaned off the screen.....
    
    I'll send ya some windex if'n ya want.
    Better yet, if'n yer headed to the Pats day game, I'll bring ya some
    screen cleaners.
    
    
    >>Batteries and cigarettes.... 
    
    >>REK
    
    Jus what I thought.
    
    (8^)*
    
    JaKe
    
47.908ahem, JaKe??????CSTEAM::FARLEYWed Apr 27 1994 16:4628
    
    
    	Yabbut JaKe,
    
    	Wif all 'dis NFL draft info stuff, all I been readin about
    is stuff like "and the Cowboys pick ________, Denver picks _______
    Noo Orleens picks_____" and so on.
    
    Any way, with all this pickin goin on I was "puzzled" as Commander Data
    would say......  Anyway, here's my question:
    
    
    
    
    
    
    	If somebody were top sneak into Joe Walton's room at night and put
    a chainsaw_like earring in his nose,  would the WaltonEffect(tm)
    cease to exist?  Would it be effected?  How would the oysters be
    harvested?
    
    Haven't you thought about that too?
    
    I remain,
    remembering that famous quote, "And Joe Walton picks a big second
    stringer!!!!"
    Kev
    
47.909PTOVAX::JACOBWe like our beer flat as can be..Wed Apr 27 1994 20:198
    
    >>Haven't you thought about that too?
    
    NO, I haven't.  AND, I cain assure you, you have helped my diet by
    killing any bit of an appetite I had.
    
    JaKe
    
47.910HANNAH::ASHEHome of the driveby noter...Mon May 09 1994 13:367
    Why do some guys flush the urinal or toilet in the men's room BEFORE
    they relieve themselves?  Is their excretion better then someone
    else's?  Are they afraid it might mix with some other creed's urine
    and cause mixed breeding?  Do they think if the pee in the same urinal
    with someone else's urinal, they might get some disease transmitted by
    some strong swimming bacteria?
    
47.911CAMONE::WAYUn-filtered Camels and Raw BeefMon May 09 1994 13:5411
Probably for a couple of reasons:


	a) they have "shy" kidneys, and the sound of flowing water
	   helps them

	b) They'd rather have fresh water in the bowl because they
	   are rather well endowed and might "dip"....


'Saw_for_Jake
47.912Rats Rats EverywhereWMOIS::CHAPALONIS_MWhat a terrible year 1918 Mon May 09 1994 13:5611
    
    
    1  Jake, Why are there so many dead rats in Pittsburgh?
    
    2  What does a Red Sox player and a dead Rat have in common?
    
    
    
    Chappy  
    
    
47.913CAMONE::WAYUn-filtered Camels and Raw BeefMon May 09 1994 14:1411
>    1  Jake, Why are there so many dead rats in Pittsburgh?

Because New York has filled their quota?

    
>    2  What does a Red Sox player and a dead Rat have in common?
    
Geez, Chappy, can't you be more original?  I mean, that sorta think
went out in 2nd grade when we all discovered the word f___.    
    

47.914WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_MWhat a terrible year 1918 Mon May 09 1994 14:273
    
    
    Thanks JAKE.
47.915MKFSA::LONGTwo score ain't so badMon May 09 1994 14:277
>>  Geez, Chappy, can't you be more original?  I mean, that sorta think
>>  went out in 2nd grade when we all discovered the word f___.    

	'Saw, you can saw 'fart' in here.  Afterall it is JaKe's note.


	billl
47.916CAMONE::WAYUn-filtered Camels and Raw BeefMon May 09 1994 14:496
>	'Saw, you can saw 'fart' in here.  Afterall it is JaKe's note.

Learned fart in kindergarten.,...  (I went to K with a bunch o' tough
kids)


47.917QUASER::JACKSONTAThe Men go Fishing!Mon May 09 1994 19:075
      JaKe,
    
      Why do some women get mens type of hair cuts?
    
      Tim
47.918CAMONE::WAYUn-filtered Camels and Raw BeefMon May 09 1994 19:088
|      JaKe,
|    
|      Why do some women get mens type of hair cuts?
|    
|      Tim

Beavis would tell you that they are Libyans.....

47.919pointedHBAHBA::HAASMaybe too much Goody's PowderMon May 09 1994 19:125
>      Why do some women get mens type of hair cuts?

Is this a Lorena Bobbitt joke?

TTom
47.920QUASER::JACKSONTAThe Men go Fishing!Mon May 09 1994 19:266
      re-1
    
      No.  I just don't understand why some woMEN like to cut there hair
    short like a G.I..
    
      Tim
47.921PATE::MACNEALruck `n' rollMon May 09 1994 19:271
    gee, Tim, then why do you wear a ponytail?
47.922one obvious reasonFRETZ::HEISERno D in PhoenixMon May 09 1994 19:271
    Short hair is easier maintenance.
47.923CAMONE::WAYUn-filtered Camels and Raw BeefMon May 09 1994 19:449
>
>    Short hair is easier maintenance.
>


Amen.  My flat-top is wicked easy to maintain.  Wash, towel dry and
go.....

Course, women in flat-tops is a different story.....(shudder, shudder)
47.924QUASER::JACKSONTAThe Men go Fishing!Mon May 09 1994 20:041
      I don't Mac.  Try again...
47.925In a quandrySPIKED::SWEENEYTom Sweeney in OGOThu May 12 1994 13:0513
JaKe,

	I'm in a big quandry.  I was playing a softball game last night
against the Waltman, and he hit two of the hardest balls I've seen in quite
some time.  The last time I saw the Waltman play, he could barely get the ball
passed the pitcher.

	JaKe, I think the Walt-man is doing 'roids.  How do we stop him before
he self-destructs, and worse yet, beats the heck out of my team with his 
super-roid power?

	zamboni

47.926CAMONE::WAYUn-filtered Camels, Raw Beef, CoffeeThu May 12 1994 13:4111
Zamboni,


Walt is not juicing.  He's simply availing himself of the powers of
that wonder supplement, Vital-K.  YOu know, the stuff that puts a pup
tent in your pants.....

All natural, all powerful, Vital-K.....


'Saw
47.927?CSTEAM::FARLEYThu May 12 1994 13:4716
    
    
    	Yabbut 'boni, I'm not JaKe and I don't (wouldn't) play him on tee
    vee but I think your going around it the wrong way.
    
    	I'd suggest that you have him keep takin 'roids but make him stare
    at the nexted eclipse and burn his eyeballs out!  Thisted way, you
    are safe from the long arm of da law and ya won't be arrested (and
    prolly violated) fer a salt and battery.
    
    'zat a better idea?
    
    I remain,
    havin $0.02 today only cause it's payday
    Kev
    
47.928HANNAH::ASHEHome of the driveby noter...Thu May 12 1994 14:0518
    
    Hey, leave my pup tent out of this... unless you got some female fans
    that want to see the schwing at the next game...
    
    I think that catcher's mask was on a little too tight last night 'boni.
    Maybe the eyesight was affected (even though you caught the popup to
    beat us on the last play).  Ok, the first one I crushed, I'll give you
    that one.  But the second was the weakest bloop double on record.  It
    was a double because everyone else was pinned against the fence instead
    of regular depth.  I guess that's what happens when you don't have a
    scouting report.
    
    Besides, I couldn't be on 'roids.  1) I don't sweat enough and 2) I
    don't hit a volleyball like Karch...
    
    P.S. You forgot my 95 mph fastball into the disappearing catcher to
    nail the guy at the plate to end an inning... haha...
    
47.929PTOVAX::JACOBWhat part of NO dintya unnerstandThu May 12 1994 19:404
    Thanks fer answering that fer me you 2 JaKe-wannabees.
    
    JaKe
    
47.930HANNAH::ASHEHome of the driveby noter...Thu May 12 1994 20:062
    So, what's YOUR answer?
    
47.931PTOVAX::JACOBWhat part of NO dintya unnerstandThu May 12 1994 20:147
    I think that Walt just experienced adrenalin overload when seeing the
    fattest looking pitch he ever saw haided his way, allowing him the
    super-human strength to crush the pitch a country mile.
    
    JaKe
    
    
47.932CAMONE::WAYUn-filtered Camels, Raw Beef, CoffeeThu May 12 1994 20:157
>    I think that Walt just experienced adrenalin overload when seeing the
>    fattest looking pitch he ever saw haided his way, allowing him the
>    super-human strength to crush the pitch a country mile.
    
Do you think he was woody-ward over it?  Or was that just the vital K????    
    

47.933PTOVAX::JACOBWhat part of NO dintya unnerstandThu May 12 1994 20:1711
    
>>Do you think he was woody-ward over it?  Or was that just the vital K????    
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    
    
    I dunno but I heerd a report that he made a large purchase of
    Cheez-Whiz after the game!!!
    
    
    JaKe
    
47.934Nope game 2 of twinbill...HANNAH::ASHEHome of the driveby noter...Thu May 12 1994 20:192
    I certainly wasn't going to McD's to get a Barkley (or Bird or Jordan)
    value meal cup...
47.935WOOOOOOOOOW!FRETZ::HEISERno D in PhoenixThu May 12 1994 20:222
    that would cause as big an endorphine rush as grabbing the all-elusive
    snarf!
47.936Thanks JaKeSPIKED::SWEENEYTom Sweeney in OGOFri May 13 1994 12:1917
But I'm still a little shakey about the whole thing.

	After all, being the catcher, I had the best view
in the field.  I know the Walt-man didn't bring no woody to
the plate.  It was a graphite, and any softball player knows 
they're bigger, stronger, and last longer than any woody. 

	Now with these reports of Cheez Whiz  disappearing
off the shelfs around here, I'm real worried about tomorrow.
Tomorrow the Walt-man and I go haid to haid in the Yankee
Volleyball Championships.  I'll be meat if he's on 'roids
and not vital K.

	So JaKe, how can I tell fer sure?  And should I wear
my catchers mask tomorrow for protection?  Just in case?

	zamboni 
47.937CAMONE::WAYUn-filtered Camels, Raw Beef, CoffeeFri May 13 1994 12:3912
>	After all, being the catcher, I had the best view
>in the field.  I know the Walt-man didn't bring no woody to
>the plate.  It was a graphite, and any softball player knows 
>they're bigger, stronger, and last longer than any woody. 

REAL Men use wood.  And smoke un-filtered Camels.


Just watch and see if Walt breaks out in zits, gets horse-teeth and
pattern baldness.

If he's on the juice, he'll also have little balls....8^)
47.938CSTEAM::FARLEYFri May 13 1994 12:4713
    
    
    	Yabbut 'zoni,
    
    I'd also recommend ya stop off at CVS on the way and pick up a yeller
    tube of that stuff called "preparation H".
    
    I heard it's really good when it comes to 'roids!
    
    I remain,
    nevah askin my pharmacist either!
    Kev
    
47.939why??? why??? why???CSTEAM::FARLEYFri May 13 1994 13:3914
    
    
    	JaKe,
    
    Could you explain to me why Tommy and Heiser split the bill to send
    birthday flowers to Beatrice Arthur?  I know she's celebrating her
    68th birthday today.
    
    deening to wonk
    
    I remain,
    also wondering if they like Jennifer Flowers or tulips
    Kev
    
47.940slurp slurpCSC32::GAULKEFri May 13 1994 15:008
    
    >Could you explain to me why Tommy and Heiser split the bill to send
    >birthday flowers to Beatrice Arthur?  I know she's celebrating her
    >68th birthday today.
    
      So's they culd lick her bald haid...
    
    
47.941<bleech, ptooee>CSTEAM::FARLEYFri May 13 1994 15:095
    
    
    	Yabbut who would she do the cheap wrapped turban trick with her
    legs to first?
    
47.942Tommy would be first, he volunteeredFRETZ::HEISERno D in PhoenixFri May 13 1994 16:451
    
47.943HANNAH::ASHEHome of the driveby noter...Fri May 13 1994 17:049
    Oh yeah, the snarf... I (yawn) live for the snarf...
    
    I didn't realize 'boni-dude was checking out my lumber.  I'll have
    to take the label off talking about the length and weight next time.
    
    Saw', the graphite shaft works better and more reliable than some light
    wood wannabe stick...  cain't use that tomorrow though.  I'll have to
    work on when to use the dink and when to use the full schwing...
    
47.944CAMONE::WAYUn-filtered Camels, Raw Beef, CoffeeFri May 13 1994 17:0616
>    Saw', the graphite shaft works better and more reliable than some light
>    wood wannabe stick...  cain't use that tomorrow though.  I'll have to
>    work on when to use the dink and when to use the full schwing...


Wood rules. 

You can rub a graphite shaft down with a chicken bone cross to take the
bad spirits out.  You can't rub it up with pine tar.

Wood has grain and a voice and a spirit.  Graphite is just a carbon-fiber
wannabe....


'Saw    

47.945HANNAH::ASHEHome of the driveby noter...Fri May 13 1994 17:093
    You don't need to work on your grip with the graphite though.  No need
    to get it all sticky...
    
47.946PATE::MACNEALruck `n' rollFri May 13 1994 17:391
    Graphite ain't no carbon-fiber wannabe.  It IS a carbon-fiber.
47.947CAMONE::WAYUn-filtered Camels, Raw Beef, CoffeeFri May 13 1994 17:448
>
>    Graphite ain't no carbon-fiber wannabe.  It IS a carbon-fiber.
>

What I meant to say was that it's a carbon-fiber WOOD wannabe....

Threw a word there....

47.948Walt-man is cleanSPIKED::SWEENEYTom Sweeney in OGOMon May 16 1994 16:1311
No roid's in his body at all.

	Saw him playing volleyball on Saturday.  That was no 
Super-roid out there, it was just our own Walt-man doing 
his normal thang.  

	He musta just taken a sip of vital-k before his 
softball atta bats the other night.  That sure is some
bat he has though.

	zamboni
47.949CAMONE::WAYUn-filtered Camels, Raw Beef, CoffeeMon May 16 1994 16:4013
>                             -< Walt-man is clean >-

Figured as much.


>	He musta just taken a sip of vital-k before his 
>softball atta bats the other night.  That sure is some
>bat he has though.

A real man would have a wood one....8^)


I think the ball is juiced, not Walt...
47.950HANNAH::ASHEHome of the driveby noter...Mon May 16 1994 21:2914
    Yeah... reality set back in, what can I say... I don't think the
    'roids would have helped my shoulder... it was a little sore towards
    the end.  The rain should help it get back into shape.
    
    JaKe... in the top 10 song "Mr. Jones and Me" by Counting Crows,
    there's a line:
    
    "I wanna be Bob Dylan, Mr. Jones wishes he were someone a little more
    funky".
    
    What is "a little more funky" than Bob Dylan?  I'm guess not Neal
    Young.  Maybe Gordon Lightfoot?  Slim Whitman?  Lyle Lovett would
    be a LOT more funky I'd guess...
    
47.951HANNAH::ASHEHome of the driveby noter...Mon May 16 1994 23:0018
    Ok, "The Sound of Music" was on about a month ago.  There's a revival
    touring with (gag) Marie Osmond as Maria....  Now, my question.
    
    In the song "Do Re Mi", each sound gets its own little blurb:
    Do a deer a female deer.
    Re a drop of golden sun... yeah yeah yeah...
    Now, for La, the best they could come up with was "La, a note to
    follow So..."?
    
    That seems real lame to me.  Have any ideas of what they could use
    instead?  
    
    ex. "La - A Spanish word for the" fits perfectly.
    ex. "La - A Californian town" fits too.
    ex. "La - the home smog and King".... 
    
    What do you think JaKe?
    
47.952PTOVAX::JACOBWhat part of NO dintya unnerstandMon May 16 1994 23:1020
    
    >>What do you think JaKe?
    
    Think, what's it like to think??
    
    Actually, my favorite would be:
    
    
    "LA=whatever the f_ck ya want it to mean"
    
    
    Schnorttt Schittt Schlepps
    
    Marie Osmond, huh????  My worst nightmare was once that she and I were
    in a bed somewhere, and she was, well lets say, occupied and couldn't
    speak, and took an epileptic fit and Bobbitted me with them big pearly
    whites of hers.
    
    JaKe
    
47.953this should send 'Saw hardward(tm)FRETZ::HEISERno D in PhoenixMon May 16 1994 23:3616
    those aren't just sounds, that's a musical scale used by musicians
    called "solfege."  Classical musicians used a fixed solfege, but there
    are moveable systems.  The fixed system is based on Middle C.
    
    Whether or not you are using "Fixed" or "Moveable" Do, here are the 
    Solfege syllables for the chromatic scale:
    
    Do  Di/Ra  Re  Ri/Me  Mi  Fa  Fi/Se  Sol  Si/Le  La   Li/Te  Ti  Do
    
    C   C#/Db  D   D#/Eb  E   F   F#/Gb   G   G#/Ab  A    A#/Bb  B   C
    
    *a = "ah" sound  Ra = "Rah", Fa = "Fah", La = "Lah", etc.
    
    *i = "Tee" sound  Di = "Dee", Mi = "Mee", Fi = "Fee", Si = "See", etc.
    
    *e = "ay" sound  Re = "Ray", Me = "May", Se = "Say", Le = "Lay", etc.
47.954PTOVAX::JACOBWhat part of NO dintya unnerstandTue May 17 1994 00:095
    thanks you, Mr. Music.  I somehow don't think that's what Walt had in
    mind when he axed the question, MikeH.
    
    JaKe
    
47.955Try solfeging Hindemith with a hangover....8^(CAMONE::WAYUn-filtered Camels, Raw Beef, CoffeeTue May 17 1994 12:4633
>    called "solfege."  

From the Italian word "solfegio".


>Classical musicians used a fixed solfege, but there
>    are moveable systems.  The fixed system is based on Middle C.

The toughest thing I had to do in four years of being a music major was
every Friday we'd have to sight-sing, using solfege.  Man, what a pisser.

First year was easy -- it was pretty much all tonal music, pretty firmly
based in I-IV-V-I type stuff.

By our junior year, we were doing atonal stuff, with some really whacked
out odd meter rhythms (thank God for Dave Brueback said the Sawman) and
believe me, it sucked.  Normally, LA is a note to follow SOL, but in that
atonal stuff, it came wherever it wanted to...

Really spoiled Fridays for me in college.


Then, somewhere along the line, Zoltan Kodaly came up with the hand
signals for each syllable (or was that Carl Orff, of "Carmina Burana" fame)
and we had to do those too.   Man did Fridays suck....

I guess that's why I liked conducting and orchestration classes lots 
better than I like solfege class....



Man, Mike, did that take me back....
'Saw    
47.956FRETZ::HEISERno D in PhoenixTue May 17 1994 16:025
>    thanks you, Mr. Music.  I somehow don't think that's what Walt had in
>    mind when he axed the question, MikeH.
    
    ...and your answer wasn't either.  At least I added some culture to it
    ;-)
47.957more ear trainingFRETZ::HEISERno D in PhoenixTue May 17 1994 16:3250
    ...and if you want to learn intervals...
 
Interval        up                        down
=====================================================================
 
minor 2nd       Jaws                      Second-Hand Rose
                ("DUH DUNT...)            ("SE-COND HAND ROSE...")
 
major 2nd       Oh Susanna                The First Noel
                ("WELL I COME from...")   ("THE-UH FIRST...")
 
minor 3rd       O Canada                  Star Spangled Banner
                ("O CAN-ada")             ("OH-OH say...")
 
major 3rd       Michael Row Your          Giant Steps
                Boat Ashore               ("LIFE WHEN we were...")
                ("MI-CHAEL row...")
 
perfect 4th     Someday My Prince         All Of Me
                Will Come                 ("ALL OF me...")
                ("SOME-DAY my...")
                
tritone         Maria (west side story)
		("MA-RI-a, I just met...") 
    
perfect 5th     Imperial margerine        For Your Eyes Only
                (royal theme              ("For your eyes ON-LY")
                 "DUNT-da da-DAH")
                My Favourite Things
                ("RAIN-DROPS on roses...")
                                
minor 6th       Black Orpheus             Where Do I Begin
                ("I'LL SING to the        ("WHERE DO I begin...")
                 sun in the sky...")
                 
major 6th       My Bonny Lies Over        All Blues (Miles Davis)
                The Ocean                 ("The SEA, THE sky")
                ("MY BON-ny lies...")
                or the NBC jingle,
                (take your pick)
                 
minor 7th       There's A Place For Us
                ("THERE'S A place...")
 
major 7th
 
perfect octave  Alice In Wonderland
                ("A-LICE in Wonderland")
                Somewhere Over the Rainbow
                ("SOME-WHERE over ...")
47.958CAMONE::WAYUn-filtered Camels, Raw Beef, CoffeeTue May 17 1994 16:5226
Mike, that's a GREAT list.  I'm gonna snag that.

I've added a couple of alternatives (if I remember right)


 
Interval        up                        down
=====================================================================
 
|perfect 4th     Someday My Prince         All Of Me
|                Will Come                 ("ALL OF me...")
|                ("SOME-DAY my...")
|                
|                Wagner's Wedding 
|                March ("HERE COMES the
|		 bride")


|tritone         Maria (west side story)
|		("MA-RI-a, I just met...") 
|
|                                         British ambulance siren
|                                         (I think)  DEE-DAW  DEE-DAW
|    


47.959HANNAH::ASHEHome of the driveby noter...Tue May 17 1994 20:252
    You missed .950 and no, I wasn't looking for what Mr. Heiser offered.
    
47.960Damn Peach Pits!CAMONE::WAYUn-filtered Camels, Raw Beef, CoffeeTue May 17 1994 20:3130
>    JaKe... in the top 10 song "Mr. Jones and Me" by Counting Crows,
>    there's a line:
>    
>    "I wanna be Bob Dylan, Mr. Jones wishes he were someone a little more
>    funky".


Neal Young is tons more funky than Bob Dylan, although Dylan's song
about someone and the Monkey Man is pretty cool.  I like Highway 61 too.

>    What is "a little more funky" than Bob Dylan?  


I would guess someone who can sing coherently and clearly so that the
words have at least a 10% chance of being understood.   If you look at
Dylans performance on the Letterman 10th Anniversary a few years back,
that sets the standard for total synaptic burnout.   

So, for someone to be a little more funky, they'd have to be a bit
better than that -- automatically you can cast out Kurt Cobain (total
synaptic disconnect eliminates any burnout possibility) and Eddie Vedder
(anyone who looks like they're passing a large peach pit when he sings
is not as funky as Bob Dylan, who only sounds like he's passing a large
peach pit when he sings).


Putting on my thinking cap, I'd have to say Tom Petty......


'Saw_for_Jake
47.961HANNAH::ASHEHome of the driveby noter...Tue May 17 1994 20:371
    I thought Tom Petty was Bob Dylan's illegitimate kid...
47.962CAMONE::WAYUn-filtered Camels, Raw Beef, CoffeeWed May 18 1994 12:489
>    I thought Tom Petty was Bob Dylan's illegitimate kid...

SHHHHHHH.

No one is supposed to know that!


8^)

47.964ponder THIS!CSTEAM::FARLEYThu May 19 1994 16:3719
    
    
    	Yabbut JaKe, I need an answer to a question I been pondering for
    quite a while.
    
    	'member that guy, Rip Van Winkle?  And how he slept for
    twenty-years?
    
    	Well, here's the question......how did he (if'n he did) hold in his
    pee?  Thnk about it - how long can you hold it before ya feel like yer
    gonna burst?  Ever get waked up in the middle of the night 'cause ya
    just gotta?  Holdin back logs I cain understand but pee???????
    
    got a opion?
    
    I remain,
    OK holdin it all night but by mornin', I really gotta go!
    Kev
    
47.965MSBCS::BRYDIETCM - World's Greatest SandbaggerThu May 19 1994 16:382
    
     Gee, Kev. You're deep.
47.966texas catheter?HBAHBA::HAASMaybe too much Goody's PowderThu May 19 1994 16:490
47.967METSNY::francusMets in '94Thu May 19 1994 17:136
yabbut Kev, it was 70 years, not 20.


I remain in search of historical accuracy (even for Tommy)
The Crazy Met

47.968CAMONE::WAYUn-filtered Camels, Raw Beef, CoffeeThu May 19 1994 18:0223
Catheter, probably a Foley catheter.


Interesting story about a Foley catheter.  A Foley has an expandable
bulb on the top, which, once inserted, can be inflated to hold it in 
the bladder.  Needless to say, the bulb must be deflated before removal.

One night I took a patient into the ER and in the next room they had
a really, really obnoxious, bordering on violent patient.  One of the 
ER nurses I knew was a no-nonsense, take-no-s___ kind of nurse, and
she came into the guy's room.   Earlier in the evening she'd 
inserted a Foley into him.

This guy was giving a young student nurse a really hard time.  Well,
my friend told him to shut up, and she grabbed the Foley.  She told the
guy that if he didn't calm down, shut up and start being nice, she was
going to remove his catheter -- as is, inflated, right then an there.

You never saw anyone shut up and calm down so quickly.  I was rolling,
but didn't have much time to savor it because we got another call...


'Saw
47.969I think I'll try uncrossing mah laigs nowCTHQ::LEARYIt'sBeenALongTimeComing...Thu May 19 1994 18:371
    
47.970different catheters for different ...HBAHBA::HAASMaybe too much Goody's PowderThu May 19 1994 18:475
That there Texas style catheter is one that fits over the apparatus so
you don't have to insert nothing into said same. Burt Reynolds used one
to get throught the est-like training in "Semi-Tough".

TTom
47.971CAMONE::WAYUn-filtered Camels, Raw Beef, CoffeeThu May 19 1994 19:059
>That there Texas style catheter is one that fits over the apparatus so
>you don't have to insert nothing into said same. Burt Reynolds used one
>to get throught the est-like training in "Semi-Tough".

Oh -- that's the thing I've heard called a truck-driver's friend....

Gotcha now...

But ol' Rip probably had a Foley.....you wouldn't want it to come out....
47.972PTOVAX::JACOBHoney, don't pay the ransom, I escaped!!Thu May 19 1994 20:086
    Kev, he didn't hold it in, he just smelled pretty bad and needed a bath
    REAL bad when he eventually woke up.  Seeing as he wasn't eating or
    drinking, though, I doubt he had much to pass.
    
    JaKe
    
47.973HANNAH::ASHELet me see shake yo tailfeather...Thu May 19 1994 20:273
    Even if you wake up after 70 years... must be tough to wake up and find
    out your team hasn't won a World Series...
    
47.974MSBCS::BRYDIETCM - World's Greatest SandbaggerThu May 19 1994 20:356
    
      I think TCS is wrong again. If I remember the story correctly,
     Rip's wife and friends didn't recognise him etc. If he had slept
     70 years they would have all been dead. I'm getting a little 
     tired of straightening TCS out. It's exhausting work but it's
     steady.
47.975CAMONE::WAYUn-filtered Camels, Raw Beef, CoffeeThu May 19 1994 21:345
>     tired of straightening TCS out. It's exhausting work but it's
>     steady.

It's a dirty, thankless job, but *someone* has to do it.....

47.976HANNAH::ASHELet me see shake yo tailfeather...Thu Jun 02 1994 20:2320
    I had a softball game against the top team in the league lasted night.
    I think the pitcher has a chip on his shoulder against me and promised he'd
    strike me out.
    
    We started the game and were down 6-0 before we got an out.  We got
    through the inning.  I grounded out to end the inning.  We then
    recovered and won the game 9-8 I think.
    
    At the top of the second inning, we made 2 changes: 
    
    1) the pitcher and catcher
    2) my cap from the Indians (their pitcher's favorite team) to the Tigers 
       (mine).
    
    Which would be the bigger reason for the change in momentum?  Could
    it be the Cleveland curse?
    
    P.S. I did go 1-for-3 with an RBI, the last at bat a line drive right
    at the pitcher.... no strikeouts...
    
47.977It's the Jacob(s) curseMKFSA::LONGDancin' INSIDE the fireThu Jun 02 1994 20:309
>>    P.S. I did go 1-for-3 with an RBI, the last at bat a line drive right
>>    at the pitcher.... no strikeouts...

	I hope we're talking fastpitch here.  Otherwise, even mentioning
	"stikeout" can cost you to buy beers for the team for the rest of
	the night.


	billl
47.978don't even need JaKe for this oneMETSNY::francusRangers,Knicks,Mets in '94Thu Jun 02 1994 20:3113
> Which would be the bigger reason for the change in momentum

I find it hard to belive that you even need to ask.
The obvious reason is

2) my cap from the Indians (their pitcher's favorite team) to the Tigers 
   (mine).

HtH

The Crazy Met

47.979PTOVAX::JACOBThu Jun 02 1994 20:358
    It had to be the Clevescum curse.  The only hat that woulda been worse
    to have on would be a Newk Yuck Mucking Fets hat.  Then younzes
    wouldn't have been able to recover and win, you'da been blown out,
    25-2, although their firsted baseman woulda let a ball go thru his legs
    at least once an inning.
    
    JaKe
    
47.980have to be wussesFRETZ::HEISERugadanodawonumadjaThu Jun 02 1994 20:421
    I never could understand people who strike out in slow pitch.
47.981HANNAH::ASHELet me see shake yo tailfeather...Thu Jun 02 1994 20:492
    It's modified... no windmill otherwise about anything goes...
    I was playing 1B...no hits between my legs...
47.982PTOVAX::JACOBCaptain, it's breakin' up, abandon shipThu Jun 02 1994 20:515
    I saaaaaaid "the other team", and only if'n ya'd had a Mucking Fets hat
    on.
    
    JaKe
    
47.983HANNAH::ASHELet me see shake yo tailfeather...Thu Jun 02 1994 20:542
    I know, I know... I do have a Mets hat though... just didn't wear it.
    Maybe only the shadow knows...
47.984FRETZ::HEISERugadanodawonumadjaThu Jun 02 1994 21:074
>    It's modified... no windmill otherwise about anything goes...
    
    you mean they throw it half as fast as they could, but faster than a
    lollipop?
47.985HANNAH::ASHELet me see shake yo tailfeather...Thu Jun 02 1994 21:243
    As fast as you can sling it without bringing your arm back past your
    haid...
    
47.986USCTR1::KINGCemeteries = Parks with nice stones...Fri Jun 03 1994 02:177
    Hmm... I used to piched in a fast pitch league (DEC -Salem NH)
    for 4 years before I retired and the rule was not over the shoulder
    for modified fast pitch. Has the rules changed in that time?
    
    REK
    
    Now I stick to candlepins at 50 MPH......
47.987HANNAH::ASHELet me see shake yo tailfeather...Fri Jun 03 1994 13:381
    That's the rule officially... get someone to call it.
47.988CAPNET::LEFEBVREPCBU Product ManagementFri Jun 03 1994 15:4615
            <<< Note 47.980 by FRETZ::HEISER "ugadanodawonumadja" >>>
                             -< have to be wusses >-

>    I never could understand people who strike out in slow pitch.

    Then you haven't faced a good slow-pitch pitcher.  I still maintain
    that a good slow-pitcher is more difficult to hit thatn a fast-pitcher,
    especially if there is no limited arc rule.
    
    These guys can drop the ball on the black so deep in the strike zone
    that you'd have to be standing in the umps position to get any kind of
    quality cut.
    
    Mark.
    
47.989BIGQ::MCKAYFri Jun 03 1994 16:464
    You are dead wrong Mark.  Now that's humor!  Slow pitch is one step up
    from t-ball.  
    
    Jimbo
47.990FRETZ::HEISERugadanodawonumadjaFri Jun 03 1994 16:482
    Markey-Mark, our race may be weak on timing and rhythm but I don't
    think it's that bad that we're excused in missing 16' arcs.
47.991HANNAH::ASHELet me see shake yo tailfeather...Fri Jun 03 1994 16:543
    Slow pitch can be a challenge, but there's always a way to hit it. 
    Not necessarily where you want, but you can hit it somewhere hard...
    
47.992FRETZ::HEISERugadanodawonumadjaTue Jun 07 1994 20:087
    Dear Jake, 
    
    If a couple from Arkansas move to California, then get divorced, are they 
    still legally brother and sister?
    
    thanks,
    Mike
47.993Update yer material, pleasePTOVAX::JACOBHere's yer bucket, start bailing!!Tue Jun 07 1994 20:105
    Mike, that's an O-L-D West Virginia joke.  So old it STILL smells like
    dinosaur sh_t.
    
    JaKe
    
47.994who's joking?FRETZ::HEISERugadanodawonumadjaTue Jun 07 1994 20:111
    
47.995So we don't have to listen to the braggart...KALI::MORGANWed Jun 08 1994 11:335
    Jake, would it be ok with you if we add a few replies to this here topic
    before Heiser gets in, so somebody can snag reply .1000?  Thanks in
    advance.
    
    					Steve 
47.996MKFSA::LONGsweet potato pie and 'Shut mah mouth'Wed Jun 08 1994 12:506
	Since JaKe works nights he won't be in until this evening,
	but I really don't think he would care.



	billl
47.997MKFSA::LONGsweet potato pie and 'Shut mah mouth'Wed Jun 08 1994 12:527
	JaKe,

	If New Yuckers truely believe that the Rotten Apple is the center
	of the universe, why do so many of them live in the Boston area?


	billl
47.998CAMONE::WAYAlas poor baldricWed Jun 08 1994 12:531
Going!
47.999CAMONE::WAYAlas poor baldricWed Jun 08 1994 12:542
Going!

47.1000CAMONE::WAYAlas poor baldricWed Jun 08 1994 12:542
GONE!!!!

47.1001MKFSA::LONGsweet potato pie and 'Shut mah mouth'Wed Jun 08 1994 12:558
	Got another for you there, JaKe.  If the sign of a true mainly
	softball player is the number of babes he has in his company,
	why is it that Walt is always alone?




	billl
47.1002CAMONE::WAYAlas poor baldricWed Jun 08 1994 12:5612
>	Got another for you there, JaKe.  If the sign of a true mainly
>	softball player is the number of babes he has in his company,
>	why is it that Walt is always alone?


Hey, leave Walt alone.

He's working on the premise that

	If he hits more homers, she will come....


47.1003MKFSA::LONGsweet potato pie and 'Shut mah mouth'Wed Jun 08 1994 12:577
	re .998 - .1000:

	Shades of JD still linger.  You better watch out, 'Saw.  You remember
	how much that pissed Kev off?


	billl
47.1004CAMONE::WAYThe last full measure of devotionWed Jun 08 1994 12:596
>
>	Shades of JD still linger.  You better watch out, 'Saw.  You remember
>	how much that pissed Kev off?
>

Yabbut, I figured I've earned the right and the privilege to do it once...
47.1005such a pityFRETZ::HEISERugadanodawonumadjaWed Jun 08 1994 14:021
    Re: .1000
47.1006Working on higher heights...HANNAH::ASHELet me see shake yo tailfeather...Wed Jun 08 1994 17:592
    That's right, 'Saw... I'm only 2 behind David Justice right now and
    have a lot fewer at bats....
47.1007CAMONE::WAYThe last full measure of devotionWed Jun 08 1994 18:126
>    That's right, 'Saw... I'm only 2 behind David Justice right now and
>    have a lot fewer at bats....

Let her see how you go deep, and she'll be there.


47.1008HANNAH::ASHELet me see shake yo tailfeather...Wed Jun 08 1994 18:132
    Not tonight then... we play at the rinky-dink park... Monday's
    would have been better...
47.1009CAMONE::WAYThe last full measure of devotionWed Jun 08 1994 18:1611
>
>    Not tonight then... we play at the rinky-dink park... Monday's
>    would have been better...
>

You might want to start using a wood bat too.  Lacquer that woodie half
way up.   Let her see how you handle the wood, how firm and accurate
your stroke, and then go DOWNtown.....

It's not the size of the park, it's how you use it.....

47.1010HANNAH::ASHELet me see shake yo tailfeather...Wed Jun 08 1994 18:232
    Well, natural is always better than artificial...
    
47.1011Mrs. JusticeFRETZ::HEISERugadanodawonumadjaWed Jun 08 1994 18:341
    But Walt, Halle Berry is already taken.
47.1012HANNAH::ASHELet me see shake yo tailfeather...Wed Jun 08 1994 18:385
    No kidding, Mike... see previous notes... that's why there's the
    comparisons to David...  I'll start with my game, then they will
    come...
    
    
47.1013PTOVAX::JACOBHere's yer bucket, start bailing!!Wed Jun 08 1994 19:4713
    re New Yuckers
    
    The water in the toilet spins when ya flush, so when ya "flush" a
    toilet like New Yuck City, the centrifugal force sends the turds(see
    New Yuckers) outward, and Boston is as good a catch basin fer them as
    any.
    
    RE. Walt and someone saying that "if you build it, she will come"
    
    Let HER build it for ya and you cain both come.
    
    JaKe
    
47.1014Jake's at it againFRETZ::HEISERugadanodawonumadjaWed Jun 08 1994 19:501
    Jake, Mac would've set that hidden.
47.1015WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_MWhat a terrible year 1918 Wed Jun 08 1994 19:556
    
    
       And Seeing Pennsylvania is just below NY, that would make it the
    smelly shitty septic tank that all NY pours into.
    
    Chap
47.1016PTOVAX::JACOBHere's yer bucket, start bailing!!Wed Jun 08 1994 20:455
    Actually, we just funnel anything that comes our way from New Yuck
    straight to the restaurants in Cleveland.
    
    JaKe
    
47.1017FRETZ::HEISERugadanodawonumadjaWed Jun 08 1994 21:261
    ...but you have to flush a few times, it's a long way.
47.1018good oneCNTROL::CHILDSTemptation is a GunWed Jun 08 1994 23:556
 re:1013

	So that's what all those replies read like.........hahahaa

 mike
47.1019curious - will it happen? ;^)CSTEAM::FARLEYTue Jun 14 1994 17:3629
    
    
    	Yabbut JaKe,
    
    	Now that MtM is history, izzit OK to now use the word,
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    				DWARF????????
    
    
    
    ;^)
    
47.1020CAMONE::WAYThe last full measure of devotionTue Jun 14 1994 17:361
NO, it's NOT okay......
47.1021METSNY::francuscould be heaven or this could be hellTue Jun 14 1994 17:396
re: .1020

is your name JaKe??

The Crazy Met

47.1022Perfessor "JaKe" SubliminalPTOVAX::JACOBTue Jun 14 1994 19:407
47.1024CAMONE::WAYThe last full measure of devotionWed Jun 15 1994 13:117
Okay, I've opened this up again for writing.

I'll remind the participants that talking about certain subjects are
off-limits, and I'll commend the noter who set his own note hidden....


'Saw
47.1025CSTEAM::FARLEYFri Jul 01 1994 19:3014
    
    
    
    Yabbut JaKe,
    
    
    	Didja ever notice that when really short people fart at the beach
    they blow sand everwhere???????
    
    
    
    ;^)
    
    
47.1026CSTEAM::FARLEYWed Jul 06 1994 20:4319
    
    Yabbut speaking of da beach (re:-0.1), I got's to thinking....
    
    
    JaKe,
    
    		Where do mermaids go shopping for their bikini tops????
    
    
    
    deening to wonk!
    
    I remain,
    flipping ma flipper
    Kev
    
    
    
    
47.1027CAMONE::WAYPop quiz...Wed Jul 06 1994 20:471
YOu guys really ought to think about getting a life.....8^)
47.1028PTOVAX::JACOBThu Jul 07 1994 00:334
    All the mermaids I ever met go topless.
    
    JaKe
    
47.1029MSE1::FRANCUSMets in '94Thu Jul 07 1994 00:336
    re: .1026
    
    Geez Kev get with it mermaids don't wear bikini tops.
    
    The Crazy Met
    
47.1030MSE1::FRANCUSMets in '94Thu Jul 07 1994 00:344
    notes collision.
    
    The Crazy Met
    
47.1031CSTEAM::FARLEYThu Jul 07 1994 12:2110
    
    
    	Yabbut da mermaids in Disney shows are covered up!
    
    Now Daryll Hannah (sp?) is soitenly another story....
    
    I remain,
    gillable
    Kev
    
47.1032At least you could have stolen a funny line!!!TOOK::HALPINJim HalpinThu Jul 07 1994 14:5216
    
    
    >Where do mermaids go shopping for their bikini tops????
    
    	Stealing lines from the Comic Strips(Arlo & Janis, July 6th),
    eh Kev!! 
    
    	Plagerism rears its ugly head, right here in SPROTS!!! I'm
    shocked!!!
    
    	I say we banish him from the conference!!!!
    
    JimH :-)
    
    
    
47.1033CAMONE::WAYPop quiz...Thu Jul 07 1994 14:541
Perhaps a simple censure would suffice.....
47.1034CTHQ::MCCULLOUGHYou gotta put down the duckie...Thu Jul 07 1994 15:063
|Perhaps a simple censure would suffice.....

Bailif...
47.1035neeeet....nneeet.....CSTEAM::FARLEYThu Jul 28 1994 15:0313
    
    
    	Yabbut JaKe,
    
    Da mosquitos thisted year are terrible and I wanna do away with them.
    I've heard that bats are really effective and I gots a question.
    Should I get wood or aluminum bats?  Would corking a bat help getting
    rid of the 'skeeters?
    
    I remain,
    a itchy gormet source
    Kev
    
47.1036Use LaBATsFXTROT::ALLEMANGThu Jul 28 1994 15:449
...and while we are on the subject:

As one's blood-alcohol level increases, does that make you more or less
desirable to the skeeters?

Hoping for an easy solution,

Greg
47.1037PTOVAX::JACOBThu Jul 28 1994 19:5112
    Actually, Kev, wif the "moisture content" of yer "back 40" there, yer
    in for an even worse fall wif the mosquitos.
    
    If ya cork the kind of bat that ya need to take care of the mosquitos,
    in a month er three, you'll need to find a monkey to pull the cork out
    of the bat's a$$, and watch out when he does it.  (8^)*
    
    Never seen a LIVE aluminum bat, but I would think it would foul up
    they're navigation.
    
    JaKe
    
47.1038Jake, I need a history lesson....SPIKED::SWEENEYTom Sweeney in OGOTue Sep 20 1994 10:438
Dear JaKe,

	Why do the people of Pittsburgh hate all that is good about Cleveland? 
And vise versa, why do the people of Cleveland hate all that is good about 
Pittsburgh?  Was there once a war between these two mighty kingdoms?  Was
I (yet again) caught napping in history when my teacher taught us this?

	zamboni
47.1039HELIX::MAIEWSKITue Sep 20 1994 13:369
RE Pittsburgh v. Cleveland

  Well, the Steelers and Browns have been a rivalry for quite some time. They
were both in the same Conference in the old NFL (Eastern or American depending
...) and are now in the same A.F.C. Division. Also for some time back in the
late 19th century they both had teams in baseball's National League. 

  That would build some rivalry,
  George
47.1040ROCK::HUBERIndians in '94Tue Sep 20 1994 13:4323
    
    Re .1038
    
    (Not answering - just talking mindlessly...)
    
> Why do the people of Pittsburgh hate all that is good about Cleveland? 
> And vise versa, why do the people of Cleveland hate all that is good about 
> Pittsburgh?
    
    Though I'm not from Cleveland proper (Cuyahoga Falls - about 45
    minutes South), as a "Clevelander"...
    
    ...I like Pittsburgh.
    
    It's not my favorite place in the world, surely.  And I don't like
    the Steelers.
    
    But I love Kennywood.  And I like the Pirates, and Penguins.
    
    I've even got a great uncle who's lived in Pittsburgh for as long as
    I can remember who I'm quite fond of.
    
    Joe
47.1041PTOS01::JACOBRFollically Challenged!!Tue Sep 20 1994 18:2946
    
>>          <<< Note 47.1038 by SPIKED::SWEENEY "Tom Sweeney in OGO" >>>
>>                     -< Jake, I need a history lesson.... >-

>>Dear JaKe,

>>	Why do the people of Pittsburgh hate all that is good about Cleveland? 
>>And vise versa, why do the people of Cleveland hate all that is good about 
>>Pittsburgh?  Was there once a war between these two mighty kingdoms?  Was
>>I (yet again) caught napping in history when my teacher taught us this?

>>	zamboni

    Dear zamboni,
    
    	AS one person already stated, part of it comes from the intense
    rivalry between the Skidmarks from Clevescum, and the STEELERS!!! 
    Another poart of it comes from the knowledge that 2 of every 3 people
    from Ohio are members of the walking brain dead.
    
    Case in point.  Here in SPROTS, we have 2 fans who hail from Ohio, Near
    or in Clevescum, originally, and root for their teams.
    
    One of these people is stuck in the 1950's or before, and cain only
    utter inane chit chat when he's been truly outclassed by another noter. 
    ie, "Has XXXXX ever won an XXX championship??"  This, and his apparant
    fetish for bowling pins(rumored that he sits on one whilst noting) and
    his penchant for describing other people whom he's never met, show that
    he's truly one of the walking braind daid.  The other fan from there
    just shows his mental ineptness thru his blindness when it comes to
    evaluating his team.  ie, "we have 632,145,196 assistant coaches this
    year, we're going to the SUper Bowl fer sure."  Thank God he's left off
    his old habit of putting form feed after every line he wrote. Also,
    unlike these two Clevescum fans, we here in Pittsburgh show up in notes
    when our teams are not doing well, and we eat our crow, and take our
    lumps, we don't just dissappear from the face of the earth until the
    next season or when our team starts winning again.
    
    There are two examples of the walking brain daid.  NOw, a note or two
    back there was anote from an Ohioan who showed that he has hid haid
    screwed on straight.  See what I mean when I say 2 of 3 are brain daid.
    
    Schnorttt Schittt Schleppps
    
    JaKe
    
47.1042The REST of the story....CAMONE::WAYPony Boy take me home...Tue Sep 20 1994 18:5541
Basically, Jake is full of flatulatory material!


Many, many, many moons ago, all of the folks from Pittsburgh and all of the
people for Cleveland, lived together on the river.

They had come, by hook or by crook, from the New England area mostly, and
didn't like hangin' out with the snooty Puritans, so they decided to head
west.

So they all settled together on the River.

Now, having come from New England, they had a fondness for baked beans.
All of those folks out there on the river would eat huge (hugh?) quantities
of baked beans all the time, just chowing down, fighting Indians, chowing
down, making babies, chowing down, raising crops, chowing down, making
babies....well, you get my drift.

Now, in the big old city on the River, they had two kinds of people. 
There were those who'd toot out of the east side of their ass, and those
who'd toot out fo the west side of their ass.

Now, with all that beanin' and tootin', things got pretty gassy around
there, and lots of folks found themselves on the wrong side of things.

Some of the folks who tooted out of the west side of their ass found
them selves on the east side of folks who tooted out of the east side
of their ass.

So, what happened over the years was that the westers stuck with the westers
and the easters stuck with the easters.   The Easters moved east to
a town they called CLEVE-land, in honor of the "split" that the good Lord
put down their tooter, and the Westers moved west to PITTS-burgh, in honor
of Euriah Hosea Pitts, the bested tooter of the westers.

That's why Pittsburgh and Cleveland are where they are, and things are like
they are......


hth,
'Saw
47.1043PTOS01::JACOBRFollically Challenged!!Wed Sep 21 1994 20:539
    Sawmain,
    
    ya gots a lot of nerve, after tooting out that story, to call ME full
    of flatulence.
    
    BTW, Clevescum is West of Pittsburgh, FYI.
    
    JaKe
    
47.1044CAMONE::WAYNo rest for the wearyThu Sep 22 1994 12:378
>    BTW, Clevescum is West of Pittsburgh, FYI.
    
Yeah, I realized that after I typed it in.

I got mixed up with some of the stuff coming out of the east sides of the
asses and some of the stuff coming out of the west sides of the asses, I 
just kinda got turned around and ended up like MrT......    

47.1045The Sage SawSPIKED::SWEENEYTom Sweeney in OGOThu Sep 22 1994 16:1411
Ah Saw-sama,

	Now I understand the deep and over riding hatred between these two
cities.  Thanks for the history lesson.  For many years I had pondered why the
residents of the two armpits of the world hated each other so much when they
should have "Baned" together!

	JaKe.  Is the 1 out of 3 non-brain dead in Clevland misguided former
Pittsburghians?

	zamboni
47.1046PTOS01::JACOBRFollically Challenged!!Thu Sep 22 1994 18:3010
    
>>	JaKe.  Is the 1 out of 3 non-brain dead in Clevland misguided former
>>Pittsburghians?
    
    Nah, I'm talking Ohio natives, not just Clevescum.  As far as Clevescum
    goes, the place is has been proven, thru research, to have a cumulative
    IQ of 13.
    
    JaKe
    
47.1047what I heardHBAHBA::HAASaustralopithecus westvirginiusThu Sep 22 1994 18:324
I heard JaKe moved from Cleveland to Pittsburgh and lowered the I.Q. of
both places.

TTom
47.1048B^)ROCK::HUBERIndians in '94Thu Sep 22 1994 19:397
    
> I heard JaKe moved from Cleveland to Pittsburgh and lowered the I.Q. of
> both places.
    
    Nah - you've got it backwards.  He _raised_ the IQ of both cities.
    
    Joe
47.1049ROCK::GRONOWSKII JUST LOVE THOSE STEELERS!Tue Dec 20 1994 11:489
47.1050PTOS02::JACOBRSTEELERS, 1994 AFC Central Champs!!Tue Dec 20 1994 12:2510
    re-.1
    
    I dunno, but I wish the law would crack down on them cause theys
    nothing more than common criminal type litter-bugs.
    
    Make em pay $100 fines fer each butt they throw out(unless it's they're
    mother-in-law's BIG BUTT, fer which they get a commendation)
    
    JaKe
    
47.1051ROCK::GRONOWSKII JUST LOVE THOSE STEELERS!Tue Dec 20 1994 12:476
47.1052GENRAL::WADETue Dec 20 1994 12:505
    
    	Probably for the same reason you pay the same rate as a family
    	with a history of heart disease....
    
    Claybone
47.1053PTOS02::JACOBRSTEELERS, 1994 AFC Central Champs!!Tue Dec 20 1994 13:0114
    Getting back to the cigs out the window issue, what's worse than them
    throwing they're butts out the window is when one of them jerks dumps
    their ashtray in a parking lot.  I say someone does that, make 'em
    sweep the lot wif a toothbrush.
    
    Only thing worse than cigarette ashes is when some 'backy chewer leaves
    they're spit cup somewhere.  Grossest thing I ever been near(short of
    TCM).  What's ever worse than that is if you knock that spit cup
    over!!!
    
    YuuuuuuuuucK
    
    JaKe
    
47.1054ROCK::GRONOWSKII JUST LOVE THOSE STEELERS!Tue Dec 20 1994 13:146
47.1055for privacyHBAHBA::HAASdingle lingoTue Dec 20 1994 13:156
I gots a solution:

1. Ban cigarette except at home.
2. Ban assholes except at home.

TTom
47.1056CTHQ::MCCULLOUGHHakuna Matata - means no worries...Tue Dec 20 1994 13:204
|    entire spectrum!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   The only thing worse than that
|    would be eating Tobin food!
 
You found out their secret ingredients!
47.1057Not a bad idea...CTHQ::MCCULLOUGHHakuna Matata - means no worries...Tue Dec 20 1994 13:223
|1. Ban cigarette except at home.

Conclusive evidence of the harm of second-hand smoke...
47.1058MKFSA::LONGSteelers...strivin' fer 5!Tue Dec 20 1994 13:273
    >mother-in-law's BIG BUTT, fer which they get a commendation)
     
    hmmmm....now that's an idea.   
47.1059CTHQ::MCCULLOUGHHakuna Matata - means no worries...Tue Dec 20 1994 13:306
|    >mother-in-law's BIG BUTT, fer which they get a commendation)
     
|    hmmmm....now that's an idea.   


Yabbut those vans have such damn small windows...
47.1060beep, beep,beep. We have radar lock.....***BOOM***TOOK::HALPINJim HalpinTue Dec 20 1994 13:4416
    
    
    >Getting back to the cigs out the window issue, what's worse than them
    >throwing they're butts out the window is when one of them jerks dumps
    >their ashtray in a parking lot.  I say someone does that, make 'em
    >sweep the lot wif a toothbrush.
    
    	And then hand them a tube of toothpaste!!!!
    
    	I agree 100% about the people who flip cigarette butts out their
    car windows. One of the times I wish I had a Stinger Missle launcher
    mounted on the hood of my car...
    
    JimH
    
    
47.1061FRETZ::HEISERGrace changes everythingTue Dec 20 1994 14:455
    re: premiums for smokers, the overweight, underweight, and other afflictions
    
    The Clintoon(tm) health plan provides for penalties for this and has
    other stipulations that will create a caste system that makes India's
    look good.
47.1062now, back to ::SPROTSHBAHBA::HAASdingle lingoTue Dec 20 1994 14:5011
>    The Clintoon(tm) health plan provides for penalties for this and has
>    other stipulations that will create a caste system that makes India's
>    look good.

Total conjecture on your part and irrelevant. Not to mention, who cares.
If'n you're gonna slur someone, at least make it up to date.

In case you didn't notice, Republicans kicked ass and they aint no health
plan.

TTom
47.1063FRETZ::HEISERGrace changes everythingTue Dec 20 1994 14:561
    That's right, I keep forgetting about November 8th.
47.1064ROCK::GRONOWSKII JUST LOVE THOSE STEELERS!Tue Dec 20 1994 14:569
47.1065SOLANA::MAY_BRClinton happensTue Dec 20 1994 14:578
    re the last few:
    
    Did you hear that Jocelyn Elders is going back to Arkansas to run their
    safe-sex program?
    
    She's gonna be in charge of shooting all the cows that kick.
    
    brews for Jake
47.1066PEAKS::WOESTEHOFFTue Dec 20 1994 15:0311
>    Only thing worse than cigarette ashes is when some 'backy chewer leaves
>    they're spit cup somewhere.  Grossest thing I ever been near(short of
>    TCM).  What's ever worse than that is if you knock that spit cup
>    over!!!
    
  I've heard a number of those spit cups have been knocked over in Cleveland
  Municicesspool Stadium. When it rains, it just seeps into the sludge
  that the Browns call the playing field. It's a major ingredient of the toxic
  waste that the 'Spots play on.

     Keith     
47.1067curableHBAHBA::HAASdingle lingoTue Dec 20 1994 15:075
>    She's gonna be in charge of shooting all the cows that kick.

Looks like what they need is a little stump training.

TTom
47.1068HELIX::MAIEWSKITue Dec 20 1994 15:397
RE cigarette ashes 

  Cigarette butts and ashes are biodegradable. Calling it littering to throw
away a butt makes about as much sense as calling it littering when leaves fall
off a tree. 

  George
47.1069MKFSA::LONGSteelers...strivin' fer 5!Tue Dec 20 1994 15:403
    >>Looks like what they need is a little stump training.
    
    Whoa, backup, giddyup, whoa, backup, giddyup
47.1070PCBUOA::LEFEBVREPCBU Asia/Pacific MarketingTue Dec 20 1994 15:403
    Cig butts are not biodegradable.
    
    Mark.
47.1071noop, filters, that isHBAHBA::HAASdingle lingoTue Dec 20 1994 15:445
>    Cig butts are not biodegradable.

As in, not at all. Like they'll be around longer than twinkies.

TTom
47.1072PTOS02::JACOBRSTEELERS, 1994 AFC Central Champs!!Tue Dec 20 1994 15:475
    Cigarette filters are made of fiberglass and will be here longer than
    yer creaky bones, George.
    
    JaKe
    
47.1073HELIX::MAIEWSKITue Dec 20 1994 15:485
  Cigarette buts don't stand a chance against a twinkie.

  You're talking billions of years here.

  George
47.1074Well, if you're going to bring Twinkies into it...ROCK::HUBERMost folks call them green onions, but they're really scallionsTue Dec 20 1994 16:2076
                                "Twinkie, Twinkie,
                    Little suet-filled sponge cake crisco log,
                         Now I know just what you are."
 
                      "Animal, Vegetable, Mineral, or Food?"
 
        In an effort to clarify questions about the purported durability and
unusual physical characteristics of Twinkies, we subjected the Hostess snack
logs to the following experiments:
 
EXPOSURE:
         Twinkie was left on a ... window ledge for four days, during which
time an inch and a half of rain fell.  Many flies were observed crawling across
the Twinkie's surface, but contrary to hypothesis, birds -- even pigeons --
avoided this potential source of sustenance.
        Despite the rain and prolonged exposure to the sun, the Twinkie
retained its original color and form.  When removed ... the Twinkie was found
to be substantially dehydrated.  Cracked open, it was observed to have taken on
the consistency of industrial foam insulation; the filling, however, retained
its adverstised "creaminess."
 
RADIATION:
        A Twinkie was placed in a conventional microwave oven, which was set
for precisely 4 minutes -- the approximate cooking time of bacon.  After 20
seconds, the oven began to emit the Twinkie's rich, characteristic aroma of
artificial butter.  After 1 minute, this aroma began to resemble the acrid
smell of burning rubber.  The experiment was aborted after 2 minutes, 10
seconds, when thick, foul smoke began billowing from the top of the oven ... a
second Twinkie was subjected to the same experiment ... this Twinkie leaked
molten white filling ... when cooled, this now epoxylike filling bonded the
Twinkie to its plate, defying gravity; it was removed only upon application of
a butter knife.
 
EXTREME FORCE:
        A Twinkie was dropped from a ninth-floor window, a fall of
approximately 120 feet.  It landed right side up ... then bounced onto its
back.  The expected "splatter" effect was not observed.  Indeed, the only
discernible damage to the Twinkie was a narrow fissure on its underside ...
otherwise, the Twinkie remained structurally intact.
 
EXTREME COLD:
        A Twinkie was placed in a conventional freezer for 24 hours.  Upon
removal, the Twinkie was not found to be frozen solid, but its physical
properties had noticeably "slowed" .. the filling was found to be the
approximate consistency of acrylic paint, while exhibiting the mercurylike
property of not adhering to practically any surface.  It was noticed that the
Twinkie had generously absorbed freezer odors.
 
EXTREME HEAT:
        A Twinkie was exposed to a gas flame for 2 minutes.  While the
Twinkie smoked and blackened and the filling in one of its "cream holes"
boiled, the Twinkie did not catch fire.  It did, however, produce the same
"burning rubber" aroma noticed during the irradiation experiment.
 
IMMERSION:
        A Twinkie was dropped into a large beaker filled with tap water.  The
Twinkie floated momentarily, began to list and sink ... viscous yelow tendrils
ran off its lower half, possibly consisting of a water-soluable artifical
coloring.  After 2 hours, the Twinkie had bloated substantially.  Its
coloring was now a very pale tan -- in contrast to the yellow, urine-like water
that surrounded it.  The Twinkie bobbed when touched, and had a gelatinous
texture.  After 72 hours, the Twinkie was found to have bloated to roughly 200
percent of its original size ... the water had turned opaque, and a small,
fan-shaped spray of filling had leaked from one of the "cream holes."
        Unfortunately, efforts to remove the Twinkie for further analysis were
abandoned when, under light pressure  ... the Twinkie disintegrated into an
amorphous cloud of debris. A distinctly sour odor was noted.
 
SUMMERY OF RESULTS
        ... the Twinkie's survival of a 120-foot drop, along with some of the
unusual phenomena associated with the "creamy filling" and artificial coloring,
should give pause to those observers who would unequivocally categorize the
Twinkie as "food."  Further clinical inquiry is required before any definite
conclusions can be drawn.
 
Reprinted from SPY magazine, July 1989.
47.1075ROCK::GRONOWSKII JUST LOVE THOSE STEELERS!Tue Dec 20 1994 17:246
47.1076ROCK::GRONOWSKII JUST LOVE THOSE STEELERS!Tue Dec 20 1994 17:243
47.1077HELIX::MAIEWSKITue Dec 20 1994 19:4330
RE      <<< Note 47.1075 by ROCK::GRONOWSKI "I JUST LOVE THOSE STEELERS!" >>>

>    George, send me your home address.  I'd like to start dropping my old
>    newspapers in your yard.  They're biodegradable so you shouldn't have
>    a problem with this.  Hey, you might even save some money - you can 
>    just read the papers I drop off and not subscribe.

  You're changing the subject, just as someone did when they complained about
the Fiberglas in filters. 

  If you read through that string it should be pretty clear that the
anti-littering twist on the smoker bashing has nothing to do with Fiberglas or
the kind of tonnage you would get from all of someone's newspapers. 

  Somehow I doubt that people would be as concerned about the Fiberglas
resulting from a Corvette getting crushed by a semi as they are about the
Fiberglas from someone's cigarette butt even though the Vet would leave a lot
more fibers than the butt. 

  So sure, if you want to drive to my house and put an amount of newspaper in
my front yard equivalent in weight to a cigarette but, be my guest. Most likely
I'd never see it and all traces of it will be gone in a couple weeks. 

  There is no littering problem caused by cigarettes, especially cigarette ashes
which are completely biodegradable. If you are really concerned about the
environment, I think there is a lot more danger from hydrocarbons, nuclear
waste, and other toxic industrial dumping than there would ever be from
someone tossing a cigarette butt out their car window.

  George 
47.1078MSBCS::BRYDIEI need somebody to shove!Tue Dec 20 1994 19:444
    
      george,
    
      are you a smoker?
47.1079HELIX::MAIEWSKITue Dec 20 1994 19:4814
RE        <<< Note 47.1078 by MSBCS::BRYDIE "I need somebody to shove!" >>>

>      george,
>    
>      are you a smoker?

  I smoke a pipe in my living room about once a week but no, I've never
smoked cigarettes.

  And that should be obvious. If you'll notice, the most adamant anti-smokers
are almost always smokers who have quit and now can't stand the fact that
someone else has their old bad habit.

  George
47.1080ROCK::HUBERMost folks call them green onions, but they're really scallionsTue Dec 20 1994 19:544
    
    ...and those who're alergic to smoke...
    
    Joe
47.1081ROCK::GRONOWSKII JUST LOVE THOSE STEELERS!Tue Dec 20 1994 20:354
47.1082Ex-smoker my NeighborOURGNG::RIGGENNetworks Sales &amp; MarketingTue Dec 20 1994 21:108
My Neighbor smoked like a chimney one every half hour and tossed the 
butt on his front porch. The resulting winds blew the butts into my yard
and lawn. He died 2 years ago but the butts are still imbedded into the lawn. 

He is much further along in the biodegradable process than his old cigarette 
butts.

Jeff
47.1083PTOS02::JACOBRSTEELERS, 1994 AFC Central Champs!!Wed Dec 21 1994 03:3110
    George, I DID NOT change the subject when I referred to the fact that
    cigarette filters contain fiberglass and are NOT bio-degradable, unless
    yer talking one thrown out now will be gone in 1 million years.
    
    You said cigarette butts was bio-degradable, and they ain't and I
    pointed that out to you and you don't wanna admit defeat on that point.
    
    
    JaKe
    
47.1084CAMONE::WAYI'll miss you, Rak, my friendWed Dec 21 1994 11:5117
Hell, I used to be in the fire department with a guy who smoked like
a stove.   One morning, we're sitting in the doorway of this fully involved
house, smoke pouring out into our faces, no Scotts on, waiting for water.

This guy pulls out a butt and lights up.  Now, my eyes were watering pretty
heavy, and I was already to the point of trying not to cough or breathe too
deep, and this guy is lighting up a butt...

I said to him "What the f___ are you doing????"

He says "Shut up, it calms me down...."


Go figure.


'Saw
47.1085HELIX::MAIEWSKIWed Dec 21 1994 12:548
  Being stuck in a room full of smokers puffing on their butts will deprive you
of your life and health. 

  Being stuck in a room full of rabid anti-smoker fanatics bleating on about
smokers will deprive you of your will to live.

  George
47.1086ROCK::HUBERMost folks call them green onions, but they're really scallionsWed Dec 21 1994 13:1413
    
>  Being stuck in a room full of smokers puffing on their butts will deprive you
>of your life and health. 
>
>  Being stuck in a room full of rabid anti-smoker fanatics bleating on about
>smokers will deprive you of your will to live.
    
    Fine - just outlaw smoking, and you'll make everyone happy... B^)
    
    Anyone else see the R. J. Reynold legacy in the MA anti-smoking
    comercial yet?
    
    Joe
47.1087HELIX::MAIEWSKIWed Dec 21 1994 13:1911
RE<<< Note 47.1086 by ROCK::HUBER "Most folks call them green onions, but they're really scallions" >>>

>    Fine - just outlaw smoking, and you'll make everyone happy... B^)
    
  Well you'd make the mob happy, that's for sure.

  If you think prohibition was fun just try a law against smoking. It would
be the roaring 20's in triplicate.

  Where are you Elliot Ness and bring back the Thompson Automatic,
  George
47.1088oh-fer-twoHBAHBA::HAASdingle lingoWed Dec 21 1994 13:2010
I aint fer outlawin nothin.

However, it readily apparent on the face of it that cigarette buts,
replete with fiberglass, are both non-biodegradable as well as a
significant contribution to littering.

Is it big deal? Some people think so. Sports arenas are banning the habit
all over the place.

TTom
47.1089ROCK::HUBERMost folks call them green onions, but they're really scallionsWed Dec 21 1994 13:3819
    
>>    Fine - just outlaw smoking, and you'll make everyone happy... B^)
    
>  Well you'd make the mob happy, that's for sure.

>  If you think prohibition was fun just try a law against smoking. It would
>be the roaring 20's in triplicate.
    
    ...and therein lies about the only reason I'm not for outlawing
    smoking.
    
    I do think, though, that there's a point at which the vast majority of
    non-smokers and anti-smokers will be happy, and that that point is
    short of a total ban.
    
    I would support bringing child abuse charges against parents who smoke
    around their children...
    
    Joe
47.1090CTHQ::MCCULLOUGHHakuna Matata - means no worries...Wed Dec 21 1994 13:409
|    Anyone else see the R. J. Reynold legacy in the MA anti-smoking
|    comercial yet?

Haven't paid much attention to these ads, although I voted for the 
referendum.  I did read in this morning's newspaper that Marion Butts
made an anti-smoking ad thised week.  The good old play on words thang -
Butts-against-butts.  I kinda like it.

=Bob=
47.1091in the genes?HBAHBA::HAASdingle lingoWed Dec 21 1994 13:536
The "legacy" has been at it for a while.

RJR hisself died of smoking. RJR the 2nd died of smoking. This guy sorta
got the drift.

TTom
47.1092CAMONE::WAYI'll miss you, Rak, my friendWed Dec 21 1994 13:5837
I know first hand what smoking can do.   My mom smoked for years and
year, three packs a day.   Twenty five years ago she quit, after an operation.
She woke up in her hospital room, and for the first time she didn't feel
the urge for a cigarette -- this from a woman who'd keep a pack on the
bedside table and light up as soon as she woke up -- so she decided to quit.

She did.  My dad did too.


But today, she suffers from COPD (Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease).
I don't know what all that means -- it's not full blown emphesyma (sp!)
but it's definitely on its way.  

The only good thing I can see is that perhaps if she hadn't have quit when
she did, she might be dead today -- so it is good that she quit when she
did.


Me, I've smoked cigarettes on occasion, as any of you who've been to a
few get togethers occasionally have seen.  It's not a habit, and it's not
planned. 

Every once in a while I like a good cigar.  That's maybe once, maybe twice
a year.   I've smoked a pipe on occasion too.

I'm not for banning cigarettes, and I don't have a problem with second
hand smoke -- it doesn't bother me while I'm there.   I spent enough years
as a firefighter, and ate enough OTHER kinds of smoke that cigarette smoke
is pretty tame comparitively.

The thing I DO HATE HOWEVER, is the smell of your clothes the next day
when you come home from a bar or whatever.  That SUCKS.


I do think that smokers should be considerate of those who don't smoke.
But unfortunately, people on the whole are not considerate of others, so
I guess that is too much to wish for....
47.1094And I mean "him"; I give credit to women on this oneAKOCOA::BREENIt was in the bleak DecemberWed Dec 21 1994 14:2113
    I agree with 'Saw on smoking and instead of more "bans" how about
    eliminating about one per week until we're back to sanity.
    
    But on consideration...  You folks who've been in the service or
    similar are used to waiting in line, an acquired skill.  I don't mind
    but I can't stand those that see the line and then beat it.
    
    Maybe the worst thing is the stores themselves that don't manage their
    lines.  I'd rather have a stock-exchange melee than wait for 10 minutes
    then watch someone walk up and the clerk wait on him.
    
    Why don't I say something?  Because there is no halfway, something
    about Hell having my number.
47.1095over ruledHBAHBA::HAASdingle lingoWed Dec 21 1994 14:2215
>>However, it readily apparent on the face of it that cigarette buts,
>>replete with fiberglass, are both non-biodegradable as well as a
>>significant contribution to littering.
>
>  Ok, so your objection to smoking and littering is based only on the fiber
>glass problem. 

Let me help you through this one, George.

You made 2 statements that are in error. Butts are not biodegradable.
Butts are a littering problem.

Got that much? OK. That was my point. Just like you quoted it.

TTom
47.1097pongHBAHBA::HAASdingle lingoWed Dec 21 1994 14:405
Boy you got me there, George. But them Camels is still littering.

Back to you.

TTom
47.1098ROCK::GRONOWSKII JUST LOVE THOSE STEELERS!Wed Dec 21 1994 15:188
47.1099HiPCBUOA::LEFEBVREPCBU Asia/Pacific MarketingWed Dec 21 1994 15:251
    
47.1100MIKEPCBUOA::LEFEBVREPCBU Asia/Pacific MarketingWed Dec 21 1994 15:251
    
47.1101costs; athletesHBAHBA::HAASdingle lingoWed Dec 21 1994 15:2718
>    	2. pay for the extra health costs

The issue of costs is a little more complicated that it might firsted
appear. Sure smokers incur more health care costs. But they also die
earlier so it saves on pensions. In fack, if'n everyone who smoked quit
and lived as long as the non-smoker, there'd have to be a_adjustment of
insurance rates to handle this longevity.

When I think of smoking and sports, it brings to mine particular
athletes. Dandy Don Meredith openly smoked in the locker room. Arnold
Palmer used to peddle L&Ms when you could show ads on TV. Arnie'd walk to
the green puffing away and throws the lit butt on the green while he
makes the putt. George McGinnis of some basketball fame was said to try
to take a quick smoke during timeouts.

I'm sure many atheletes still smoke.

TTom
47.1103PCBUOA::LEFEBVREPCBU Asia/Pacific MarketingWed Dec 21 1994 15:301
    Yaz, Derek Sanderson, Al Iafrate.....
47.1104HELIX::MAIEWSKIWed Dec 21 1994 15:3217
RE               <<< Note 47.1097 by HBAHBA::HAAS "dingle lingo" >>>

>Boy you got me there, George. But them Camels is still littering.

  How? As I understand, non-filter Camels are paper (i.e. wood) and ground
up tobacco leaves.

  I think we should split the difference and say that you are right on the
filters, I'm right on the non-filters.

  In fact, we could call it a "draw".

  Get it? Tie in a cigarette argument is a "draw".

  Chuckle, chuckle, I'm really pleased with myself over that one.

  George
47.1105SOLANA::MAY_BRClinton happensWed Dec 21 1994 15:3315
    >There is no littering problem caused by cigarettes, especially
    >cigarette asheswhich are completely biodegradable. If you are really
    >concerned about theenvironment, I think there is a lot more danger from
    >hydrocarbons, nuclearwaste, and other toxic industrial dumping than
    >there would ever be fromsomeone tossing a cigarette butt out their car
    >window. 
     
    >George  
    
    George, come out here and see some of the forests that get burnt down
    *every* summer by someone tossing a cigarette butt out their car window
    and then tell me that hydrocarbons and nuclear waste are a bigger
    problem to the environment.
    
    brews
47.1106PCBUOA::LEFEBVREPCBU Asia/Pacific MarketingWed Dec 21 1994 15:363
    Actually, forest fires do help the environment.
    
    Mark.
47.1107fumigate thy selfHBAHBA::HAASdingle lingoWed Dec 21 1994 15:399
re: draw

But, sir, you most certainly did not kick butt in this discussion.

While this might be considered a drag by some, you have been smoked in
most, if'n not all, of your assertions. Puffing up is certainly not
indicated.

TTom
47.1108SOLANA::MAY_BRClinton happensWed Dec 21 1994 15:4811
    
    >    Actually, forest fires do help the environment.        
    
    >      Mark.
    
    While forest fires may occur naturally in the environment and help in
    providing new growth, I'd find it next to impossible to find anyone who
    would agree that a fire started by someone throwing a cigarette out of
    their car window is helping the environment.  
    
    brews
47.1109goneHBAHBA::HAASdingle lingoWed Dec 21 1994 15:538
The fire caused by the butt helps the environment only if'n the butt is a
camel butt cause then the bio-degradation occurs real fast as it
vaporizes, thereby dimishing the negative effect of littering.

Probably, vaporized fiberglass butts are something the EPA emmission
people should consider.

TTom
47.1110ODIXIE::ZOGRANTestudo is still grounded!Wed Dec 21 1994 16:048
    Talk about smoking atheletes - At a Masters practice round a couple of
    years ago I saw Fuzzy Zoeller(sp) and John Daly (they were in the same
    threesome, forget the other person), anyway, I think they needed a
    fourth caddie to carry around the cartons of butts they consumed. 
    Looked like a couple of volcanoes!  Daly never took the cig out of his
    mouth on the par 3 over water (16th?).  Just teed it up and swung.
    
    UMDan
47.1111ROCK::HUBERMost folks call them green onions, but they're really scallionsWed Dec 21 1994 16:0522
    
>  So would it be ok with you if people smoked non-filter Camels at sporting
>events? No fiberglass there so I believe those butts would be biodegradable. 
    
    OK, so I'm not the "you" indicated above, I'm in the mood to answer
    anyway...
    
    I would _much_ prefer if all smoker would switch to non-filtered
    cigarettes.  the smoking still wouldn't be "ok" with me, but it would
    be a big improvement...
    
    1) Biodegradable butts.
    
    2) w/o filters, more of the toxic components of 2nd hand smoke go
       directly to their rightful owner (the smoker).
    
    3) The non-biodegrable butts, in addition to being litter, are
       ecologically dangerous because some birds have a tendency to
       use them to line nests.  Picking apart the fiberglass filters
       doesn't do a whole lot of good for the birds...
    
    Joe
47.1114Is this why my wife said no desserts?CSLALL::BRULEgo ahead with your own life leave me aloneWed Dec 21 1994 16:207
    Dear Jake,
    According to the Boston Globe the average Christmas meal has 3,793
    calories. They also have chart that shows it takes the average man 27.6 
    hours having "moderate intensity sex" to burn that many calories but it 
    takes a women 59.2 hours. Why is there such a differance?
    
     Souce The Boston Globe 12/19/95 Health/Science section 
47.1115SOLANA::MAY_BRClinton happensWed Dec 21 1994 16:2033
    >     Well first, are you sure it was a cigarette that started those
    >fires and notlightning or a camper's fire? 
    
    The fires I spoke of were determined by the US Forest Service to have
    been started by someone throwing cigarette butts out their window. 
    It's also pretty obvious (even to someone too stupid to read the signs
    that tell you not to do throw you butts out the window) that their is a
    fire danger when you see dry grass right next to the road in the
    summers here.
    
    >                                              I heard of one case where
    >someone was pulling asmall car behind their Winabego, the car's tire
    >went flat, the Winabego driverdidn't know, sparks started flying from
    >between the rim and the road and thecar lit up half the country side.
    >So should we ban camping and Winabegos?  
    
    This is an accident.  Throwing your cigarette butts out the window is
    preventable.  Even you should be able to tell the difference.
    
    >Forest fires have been around
    >for millions of years and there is no evidencethat over the long run
    >they harm the environment.
    
	I'm not living over the long run.  I'm here for the short term,
    environmentally speaking. There is no evidence that nuclear waste harms
    the environment over the long run either, but you seemed to be against
    that earlier.
    
    I can't believe that even you would attempt to defend someone throwing
    cigarette butts out the window.
    
    
    brews
47.1117METSNY::francusThere is no joy in MudvilleWed Dec 21 1994 16:287
> I'll defend just about anything once I see 3 or 4 notes in a row go
> unchallenged. 

finally an admission;

The Crazy Met
47.1118SOLANA::MAY_BRClinton happensWed Dec 21 1994 16:3422
    
>  Well what ever state it happened in didn't think so. They took the guy to
>court and tried to make him pay millions in damages.
 
    There is a difference between preventability and culpability.  I never
    said the guy wasn't responsible for his actions.
    
>  Depends on how long you are running. Nuclear waste can contaminate an area
>for 25,000 years. A forest fire, on the other hand, can result in a better
>forest within a lifetime. 

    Who's lifetime?  Saguaro cactus take 200+ years to reach maturity.  And
    what definition of better are you going to use?
    

>  I'll defend just about anything once I see 3 or 4 notes in a row go
>unchallenged. 

    Interesting concept.  
    
    George Maiewski knows what he's talking about.
  George
47.1119SOLANA::MAY_BRClinton happensWed Dec 21 1994 16:341
    George Maiewski knows what he's talking about
47.1120SOLANA::MAY_BRClinton happensWed Dec 21 1994 16:341
    George Maiewski knows what he's talking about
47.1121SOLANA::MAY_BRClinton happensWed Dec 21 1994 16:341
    George Maiewski knows what he's talking about
47.1122SALEM::DODAWorking on mysteries without any cluesWed Dec 21 1994 16:415
Add Mickey Tettleton to the list of smokers. Caught him taking 
that one last, long drag in the club house before he headed out to 
the field last spring in Port Charlotte.

daryll
47.1124DZIGN::ROBICHAUDTheClub-Don'tLeaveHomeWithoutItWed Dec 21 1994 16:459
47.1125Oh please, when will Soapbox be back up....SALEM::DODAWorking on mysteries without any cluesWed Dec 21 1994 16:464
            <<< Note 47.1119 by SOLANA::MAY_BR "Clinton happens" >>>

    George Maiewski knows what he's talking about

47.1126SALEM::DODAWorking on mysteries without any cluesWed Dec 21 1994 16:474
The Butts commercial has already been aired at least once. I saw 
it lasted weekend.

daryll
47.1127PCBUOA::LEFEBVREPCBU Asia/Pacific MarketingWed Dec 21 1994 16:483
    Boy, that George *really* knows what he's talking about.
    
    Mark.
47.1129SOAP. PleaseODIXIE::ZOGRANTestudo is still grounded!Wed Dec 21 1994 16:585
    Soapbox is at BACK40::SOAPBOX.  I think there is a smoking note there. 
    Sheesh, now I have to enable my "IF MAIEWSKI THEN NEXT UNSEEN"  program
    in SPROTS.
    
    UMDan
47.1130HELIX::MAIEWSKIWed Dec 21 1994 17:0914
RE       <<< Note 47.1129 by ODIXIE::ZOGRAN "Testudo is still grounded!" >>>

>    Soapbox is at BACK40::SOAPBOX.  I think there is a smoking note there. 
>    Sheesh, now I have to enable my "IF MAIEWSKI THEN NEXT UNSEEN"  program
>    in SPROTS.
    
  Don't blame this on me. I didn't say a word until the smoking discussion was
well underway and extremely one sided. 

  The fact that you single me out tells me that it's not the topic that bothers
you but the fact that one guy had the stones to go against the politically
correct way of thinking on the topic.

  George
47.1131where 'tis dueHBAHBA::HAASdingle lingoWed Dec 21 1994 17:1213
>  The fact that you single me out tells me that it's not the topic that bothers
>you but the fact that one guy had the stones to go against the politically
>correct way of thinking on the topic.

George, you're right. We should all stand up and thank the person
responsible.



Thanks, JaKe for having stones enough to open a whole topic on these
kinda thangs.

TTom
47.1132When losing an argument, scream "PC! PC!"TOOK::HALPINJim HalpinWed Dec 21 1994 17:2215
    
    
    
>  The fact that you single me out tells me that it's not the topic that bothers
>you but the fact that one guy had the stones to go against the politically
>correct way of thinking on the topic.
    
    	Being against people throwing cigarette butts out their car windows
    and against littering in general, is "politcally correct"????? Oh
    please.....
    
    JimH
    
    
    
47.1133MIMS::ROLLINS_RWed Dec 21 1994 17:2716
>
>  The fact that you single me out tells me that it's not the topic that bothers
>you but the fact that one guy had the stones to go against the politically
>correct way of thinking on the topic.
>
>  George

   
   I don't think that's quite right.  I think the topic does bother some people
 (probably a lot).  I don't think that it has anyhting to do with some random
 person going against the grain, but that is a specific person who seemingly
 admits to trying to annoy the others with arguments that are almost foolish.
 For example, suggesting that something isn't littering just because it's made
 of biodegradable products is foolish.  The laws against littering specify
 nothing about what the biodegradability of a product (not in the states I
 have lived in).
47.1135WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_MDA BEARS!!!!Wed Dec 21 1994 18:067
    
    
        Wow that George knows alot!!
    
    
    
    Chap
47.1136CAMONE::WAYI'll miss you, Rak, my friendWed Dec 21 1994 18:1431
Re Billte's reply from WAY WAY back, about waiting on line.

Waiting on line is definitely an acquired skill.  It is true in the
military for sure, where you seem to wait on line for everything - if you're
not waiting in formation.

In the summer, when we get activated and sent to camp, we wait on line
three times a day for chow.  You can end up waiting on line for a shower,
waiting on line for helicopter familiarization, waiting in formation to
go to chow, on and on ad nauseum...

You actually learn to be patient, and just deal with it.

So, last night, I'm in Caldor's returning a videotape.  I wait in the
forever-long line at the service desk, get up to the clerk, and this lady
barges up in front of me, cutting the entire line, all but elbowing me 
out of the way.

Now, those of you that have met me know that I'm NOT a small man, and
yet this lady caught me so off-guard that I almost fell down.

She had had some film processed, and wanted to know if the C-41 on the
package was "credit 41 cents" or not.  I felt like saying "No, you
stupid f___ing bitch, it's a film type!"   But, patience and all kept my
mouth shut until the customer service person called the film department
and found out that it was, indeed, a film type.

As the lady left, I simply said "You're excused".  She looked at me like
I was nuts.

People, eh?
47.1137ROCK::GRONOWSKII JUST LOVE THOSE STEELERS!Wed Dec 21 1994 19:405
47.1138METSNY::francusThere is no joy in MudvilleWed Dec 21 1994 19:466
Italy?
France would be second guess.

England was pretty good and so was Northern Europe.

The Crazy Met
47.1139(8^)*PTOS02::JACOBRSTEELERS, 1994 AFC Central Champs!!Wed Dec 21 1994 19:469
    
    >>There's one country that doesn't believe in waiting in lines.  Talk
    >>about a free for all... can anyone guess which country I'm talking
    >>about?
    
    Only one I cain think of is MasSuckTwoShits.
    
    JaKe
    
47.1140ROCK::GRONOWSKII JUST LOVE THOSE STEELERS!Wed Dec 21 1994 19:537
47.1141HELIX::MAIEWSKIWed Dec 21 1994 19:579
  Last summer when I was there the line to get into the Louve was very long
but seemed pretty orderly. Of course it contained people from all over the
world. 

  There are, however, convenient stores in Paris called something like "Felix
Potend" which seem to attract mostly residents. The lines there were short
(2-4 people at most) but seemed orderly as well.

  George
47.1142They cain keep their stinkin' airspaceSALEM::DODAWorking on mysteries without any cluesWed Dec 21 1994 19:5710
      <<< Note 47.1140 by ROCK::GRONOWSKI "I JUST LOVE THOSE STEELERS!" >>>

    
   >the French
   >people I encountered would cut in line regardless of whether or not
   >others were cueing properly. 

    Unless, of course, you're Jerry Lewis :-)


47.1143PTOS02::JACOBRSTEELERS, 1994 AFC Central Champs!!Wed Dec 21 1994 20:0613
>>    Dear Jake,
>>    According to the Boston Globe the average Christmas meal has 3,793
>>    calories. They also have chart that shows it takes the average man 27.6 
>>    hours having "moderate intensity sex" to burn that many calories but it 
>>    takes a women 59.2 hours. Why is there such a differance?
  
If I "laid back and enjoyed it" instead of working my butt off, it'd take me
59.2 hours to burn off the calories, too.

JaKe



47.1144queues and maulingAKOCOA::BREENIt was in the bleak DecemberWed Dec 21 1994 20:078
    Yeh you're probably right about the French.  I go to church often at
    St. Maries where the main language is French and noticed a few cuts in
    the communion line.
    
    And my experience was at Pheasant Lane in Nashua another French
    speaking town.  Down in Mass. cutting in will get a serious response
    and God help you if you cut in on members of the "weaker" sex at one of
    those Brahmin malls.
47.1145SOLANA::MAY_BRClinton happensWed Dec 21 1994 21:417
    >>the French   
    >>people I encountered would cut in line regardless of whether or not  
    >>others were cueing properly.     
    
    >Unless, of course, you're Jerry Lewis :-)
    
    Or Minnesota Fats
47.1146But times changeMUNDIS::SSHERMANSteve Sherman @MFRWed Dec 28 1994 11:4623
Here in Germany (to return to the discussion of a week ago) there is
a noticeable sea change taking place with regard to standing in line.

For most of my years here, I have gone through about three apoplexies
a day, watching some jerk elbowing people aside, because he or she
was convinced the rules applied only to everybody else.

And there is also the corollary idiot, who stands on the left side of
an escalator, blocking it for people who want to walk and ride, despite
signs saying "Rechts stehen, links gehen" (stand right, walk left).  I
love being in London, where even at rush hour, the left side in almost
always clear and the line to stand right is 20 feet long.

But the Germans are getting better at queueing, and I think the reason
is the increasing use of ATMs.  We have restricted shopping hours here,
so there are usually lines at ATMs during those times, and the behavior
there is much improved over the norm.  Little by little, it seems to
be spreading to other lines as well.

But they've still got a long way to go to reach the civilized standard
of the English.

Steve
47.1147CTHQ::MCCULLOUGHHakuna Matata - means no worries...Thu Dec 29 1994 12:2111
Oh all knowing JaKester

Does anybody really WATCH the weather on TV?  I don't really
care about high pressure fronts, troughs, artic breezes from the 
gulf stream, and all that rot.  Just give me your best guess at
what the weather is goign to be like for the next five days, that's
all.

Why do they put on all that other crap?

=Bob=
47.1148one doesHBAHBA::HAASdingle lingoThu Dec 29 1994 12:2310
>Does anybody really WATCH the weather on TV? 

I watch the Weather Channel. 

I do quite a bit of traveling and I like to see what they're guessing for
the weather where I'm headed. Also, when your considering such issues of
import as picking the NFL games in the ::POOL, it's nice to see if'n it's
supposed to snow in Green Bay or rain in Miami.

TTom
47.1149CTHQ::MCCULLOUGHHakuna Matata - means no worries...Thu Dec 29 1994 12:2810
|I watch the Weather Channel. 

Yabutt I do too.  They've got some serious babes reading the weather...

Actually, I watch for the same sort of information, but my point is
that all people actually care about is that it is going to be in the
tweties and snowy in Green Bay, not that the high pressure front moving
across the Great Lakes is going to make it snow.

=Bob=
47.1150looking for snow in WVaHBAHBA::HAASdingle lingoThu Dec 29 1994 12:3311
The other thing is that I do quite a bit of 4-wheeling, usually going up
to my native West Virginee. I like to go there when they're predicting
snow.

The worst thing that the weather people do is to blur the line between
what is happening and what is being predicted. For example, they show
you the high pressure front and then project it tomorrow, the nexted day,
etc. without any warning labels like, "this is what we think is going to
happen". It makes you think that this is what will happen.

TTom
47.1151Talk about exciting television!!!TNPUBS::NAZZAROWe're 4th and movin' up!Thu Dec 29 1994 12:433
    I live for the Weather Channel!!!!
    
    NAZZ
47.1152FXTROT::ALLEMANGThu Dec 29 1994 13:042
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.... Jeanetta.
47.1153DZIGN::ROBICHAUDCorpAid-GiveToThoseWhoTake!Thu Dec 29 1994 15:384
	When compared to a soccer match the Weather Channel is action packed 
entertainment.

				   /Don
47.1154PTOS02::JACOBRSTEELERS, 1994 AFC Central Champs!!Thu Dec 29 1994 18:428
    
>>Why do they put on all that other crap?
    
    Because they have to fill time for the all important sponsors and their
    advertizing dollar.
    
    JaKe
    
47.1155CTHQ::MCCULLOUGHHakuna Matata - means no worries...Thu Dec 29 1994 19:096
|>>Why do they put on all that other crap?
    
|    Because they have to fill time for the all important sponsors and their
|    advertizing dollar.
 
Ohh, I knew there was a reason.
47.1156weather channel > preview guide > soccerHBAHBA::HAASdingle lingoThu Dec 29 1994 19:325
I like it when they say, "Today's weather is brought to you by
so-and-so". Like there wouldn't be any weather if'n they couldn't find a
sponsor.

TTom
47.1157ROCK::GRONOWSKII JUST LOVE THOSE STEELERS!Sat Dec 31 1994 06:413
47.1158MKFSA::LONGSteelers...strivin' fer 5!Sat Dec 31 1994 16:287
    re .1157:
    
    There's a saying about bears and woods that comes to mind here.
    
    
    
    billl
47.1159PTOS01::JACOBRSTEELERS, 1994 AFC Central Champs!!Mon Jan 02 1995 13:274
    Ya hit the ol nail right on the haid, Mr. Long.
    
    JaKe
    
47.1160A different sort of cheerleader?MUNDIS::SSHERMANSteve Sherman @MFRTue Jan 03 1995 11:455
So JaKe, do you like round card girls?  I watched a card from the Forum
in Inglewood last night, and after seeing those vapid, vacant, top-heavy
California girls in the Budweiser bathing suits, the answer is not obvious.

Steve
47.1161ROCK::GRONOWSKISTEELERS Best in the AFC CentralTue Jan 03 1995 11:503
47.1162PTOS01::JACOBRSTEELERS, 1994 AFC Central Champs!!Tue Jan 03 1995 12:357
    Do I like round-card girls??
    
    Let it suffice fer me to say that they cain schedule a "tag-team" match
    wif me anytime they want to.
    
    JaKe
    
47.1163HELIX::MAIEWSKITue Jan 03 1995 13:047
RE   <<< Note 47.1161 by ROCK::GRONOWSKI "STEELERS Best in the AFC Central" >>>

>    What NFL team had the first cheerleaders?

  Dallas?

  George
47.1164ROCK::GRONOWSKISTEELERS Best in the AFC CentralTue Jan 03 1995 13:565
47.1165Carolina Panthers?HBAHBA::HAASdingle lingoTue Jan 03 1995 13:570
47.1166WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_MCanes and Hoyas,Canes and HoyasTue Jan 03 1995 14:213
    
    
    RAIDERS
47.1167MSBCS::GALVINR.T. Galvin, PKO2 223-2625Tue Jan 03 1995 14:252
    
    BEARS
47.1168Canton Bulldogs?HBAHBA::HAASdingle lingoTue Jan 03 1995 14:280
47.1169Orange (OH) Indians?ROCK::HUBERMost folks call them green onions, but they're really scallionsTue Jan 03 1995 14:460
47.1170ROCK::GRONOWSKISTEELERS Best in the AFC CentralTue Jan 03 1995 15:542
47.1171PEAKS::WOESTEHOFFTue Jan 03 1995 16:071
  Dallas Texans
47.1172HELIX::MAIEWSKITue Jan 03 1995 16:115
  How about the Rams?

  It seems like it might be a California thing.

  George
47.1173ROCK::GRONOWSKISTEELERS Best in the AFC CentralTue Jan 03 1995 16:163
47.1174METSNY::francusThere is no joy in MudvilleTue Jan 03 1995 16:355
Well it certainly couldn't be any Cleveland team since the local talent
would not be able to provide a cheerleading squad.

The Crazy Met
47.1175ROCK::HUBERMost folks call them green onions, but they're really scallionsTue Jan 03 1995 17:407
    
> Well it certainly couldn't be any Cleveland team since the local talent
> would not be able to provide a cheerleading squad.
    
    Ah, Cleveland bashing.  The last refuge of the unoriginal... B^)
    
    Joe
47.1176just a hunchWMOIS::FASSETT_ENothing beats a Bud MAN!!!Fri Jan 06 1995 16:502
    Miami Dolphins ???
    
47.1177ROCK::GRONOWSKISTEELERS Best in the AFC CentralFri Jan 06 1995 17:0011
47.1178ROCK::GRONOWSKISTEELERS Best in the AFC CentralFri Jan 06 1995 17:0732
47.1179ROCK::HUBERMost folks call them green onions, but they're really scallionsFri Jan 06 1995 17:1310
    
>    In Mass, people believe its their god given right to turn left in 
>    front of oncoming traffic when a light turns green.  
    
    That's not just a MA thing, though.  I'd never seen such a maneuver
    until I got to college, at which point (trying this all back to JaKe)
    I was told by a friend that the maneuver was called a Pittsburgh
    Left Turn...
    
    Joe
47.1180HELIX::MAIEWSKIFri Jan 06 1995 17:2814
RE   <<< Note 47.1178 by ROCK::GRONOWSKI "STEELERS Best in the AFC Central" >>>

>    Now, back to the use of turn signals in MASS.  MASS Driving Lesson #2.
>    The turn signal indicates to traffic that you are going to make a lane
>    change or turn.  It is supposed to be turned on before the action is 
>    started, NOT DURING the action.  

  What are you nuts? If you do that then the guy coming up behind you has
time to gun it and squeeze you out.

  You see a hole, you go. If someone doesn't like it no problem, that's why
God gave you a middle finger.

  George (who's been living in Boston for 10 years)
47.1181JMNSHOMKFSA::LONGSteelers...strivin' fer 5!Fri Jan 06 1995 17:3520
    I'm not JaKe, nor have I ever played him on any TV program, but
    having lived in virtually every area of this country, including
    Alaska, I've seen all sorts of driving habits which seem to be
    characteristic to a geographic region.
    
    Most, note the word most, drivers who spend the majority of their 
    driving time in and around major cities are very offensive drivers.
    The reason they seem so bad in Mass, actually all of New England,
    is due to the fact that there is less non-urban space in this area
    to drive in.  Therefore it's only natural that MOST deveope a very
    urban/aggressive style of driving.
    
    This is in no way meant to justify the assinine moves that you 
    mentioned.  I'm just trying to qualify them.
    
    IMHO the most courteous drivers are from the midwest.  Yes that
    includes Ohio and the western portion of PA.
    
    
    billl
47.1182ROCK::GRONOWSKISTEELERS Best in the AFC CentralFri Jan 06 1995 17:363
47.1183HELIX::MAIEWSKIFri Jan 06 1995 17:5115
  If there is a space between you and the car ahead it's because you were
daydreaming and let the guy ahead of you get more than a length lead. If
you're not careful in that situation, some clown in the next lane may see your
space in line and muscle in. 

  If he's dumb enough to give you warning, then you have time to gun it, close
up the gap, and keep him from taking your spot. Otherwise, you've lost one car
length for good and you lose. 

  Conversely if you are the guy in the other lane and you see some guy slacking
off leaving a space, then you zip in while he's asleep. He'll blow his horn but
it won't do him any good and when you flip the finger, that means you win.

  Don't they teach you guys this stuff out in Ohio?
  George
47.1185oh oh... agreement!FXTROT::ALLEMANGFri Jan 06 1995 18:0116
How to maximize traffic bandwidth...



1.  If'n you're going the speed limit or less... stay in the right lane.  Stay
    there.  Just stay there.

2.  If'n you're in the left lane, you are obligated to do one of two things.

	2A.  Keep up with the car in front of you.  Defend your turf!
	
	2B.  If there is no car in front of you, accelerate until you find one.



Greg
47.1186ROCK::GRONOWSKISTEELERS Best in the AFC CentralFri Jan 06 1995 18:037
47.1187TOOK::HALPINCleveland Browns - Super Bowl Bound in 1995!Fri Jan 06 1995 18:0810
    
    
    
    	Is Massachusetts Driving a "Sport"????
    
    
    	Discuss amongst yourselves....
    
    JimH :-)
    
47.1189all wheelsHBAHBA::HAASdingle lingoFri Jan 06 1995 18:277
Hey, that's one of the reasons I have a 4-wheel type device.

Put it into 4L and go over, around or through whatever the problem is.

:=)

TTom
47.1190HELIX::MAIEWSKIFri Jan 06 1995 18:5318
RE   <<< Note 47.1186 by ROCK::GRONOWSKI "STEELERS Best in the AFC Central" >>>

>    Passing on the RIGHT is ILLEGAL in Mass. despite the rumors I've heard
>    to the contrary.  I have the driver's manual, I picked it up at the 
>    Cambridgeside Galleria at Christmas.

  What do you mean "ILLEGAL"?

  Are you talking about when those blue cars with the funny lights on the roof
start chasing you down the road? I hate when that happens, they're a pain to
lose in traffic. 

  In any case, traffic laws in Boston only apply when

    1) There is a cop around
    2) It's near the end of the month and he's low on his ticket quota

  George
47.1191and how's the Burgh's weather?HBAHBA::HAASdingle lingoFri Jan 06 1995 18:567
something really worth asking about.

Hey JaKe, how 'bout a weather update for the Burgh?

Thanks.

TTom
47.1192PTOS02::JACOBRSTEELERS, 1994 AFC Central Champs!!Fri Jan 06 1995 18:5916
    Groaner,
    
    since the Massachussetts moron patrol, ya know, those who get behind a
    wheel, are greater in number than anywhere in the nation, and create
    such a wide range of brain daid gaffs behind the wheel, the appropriate
    term that cain be used fer referring to ANY Massachussetts driver is:
    
    
    
    MASSHOLE!!!
    
    Fits the bill better than any other word, and fits all them "drivers"
    up there.
    
    JaKe
    
47.1193PTOS02::JACOBRSTEELERS, 1994 AFC Central Champs!!Fri Jan 06 1995 19:0112
    
>>something really worth asking about.

>>Hey JaKe, how 'bout a weather update for the Burgh?
    
    Snow, freezing rain, and windy starting within the bnexted hour or so,
    continuing overnight until tomorrow morning sometime, then getting
    colder fer gametime, about 20 degrees with wind and snowflurries.
    
    
    JaKe
    
47.1194HELIX::MAIEWSKIFri Jan 06 1995 19:0623
RE  <<< Note 47.1192 by PTOS02::JACOBR "STEELERS, 1994 AFC Central Champs!!" >>>

>    MASSHOLE!!!
>    
>    Fits the bill better than any other word, and fits all them "drivers"
>    up there.

  Ha, that's nothing. 

  We have an even worse word for people who come in to town and whine and
complain every time they lose a traffic battle to a townie who's only half
trying. We call them "tourists" as it "dam tourists" or "who opened the gate
and let the tourists out". 

  Not only do these clowns whine and cry every time they lose a traffic
skirmish, half the time they stop their car dead in their tracks which leaves
them open to getting cut off by the next guy. Then the whining starts up all
over again.

  Hey, no guts, no glory

  BEEP!!!  BEEP!!!  VARROOOOOOOMMMMM!!!!
  George
47.1195brrrrrMKFSA::LONGSteelers...strivin' fer 5!Fri Jan 06 1995 19:085
    Wow!  Sounds like just the right kind of weather for those 
    Browns' 'hot seats' to break down.
    
    
    billl
47.1196ROCK::GRONOWSKISTEELERS Best in the AFC CentralFri Jan 06 1995 19:144
47.1197PCBUOA::LEFEBVREPCBU Asia/Pacific MarketingFri Jan 06 1995 19:238
   <<< Note 47.1196 by ROCK::GRONOWSKI "STEELERS Best in the AFC Central" >>>

    
    
>    Who's whining... I keep old C and D sized batteries in my car for those
    >    special occasion, because the finger is just not forceful enough. 
    
    Always knew you drove a toy, Groaner.
47.1198MSE1::FRANCUSThere is no joy in MudvilleThu Jan 12 1995 12:226
    JaKester, so why does the mouth swell up after wisdom teeth are pulled?
    They are just bone after all?? Let me know I'll need a reason later
    today.
    
    The Crazy Met
    
47.1199Saw for JakeCAMONE::WAYConspiring to make a mutiny...Thu Jan 12 1995 12:5517
I'm not Jakester but I'll give you my two cents.

First off, your mouth is one of the areas on your body with lots and lots
and lots of nerve endings.  (Your fingertips and penis are two of the others).

When you cut open the jaw area to remove them, you're doing a lot of damage,
and one way the body reacts is swelling, as blood and fluids rush to the
area to promote healing.

If there's inflammation, it's usually indicative of your body fighting off
infection.....


Hope that helps....


'Saw
47.1200HELIX::MAIEWSKIThu Jan 12 1995 12:597
  I had all 4 out when I was in my 20s and there was hardly any swelling at
all. Not much pain to speak of either.

  I guess it depends somewhat on whether or not they are impacted. If not
then it's just a routine extraction.

  George
47.1201MSE1::FRANCUSThere is no joy in MudvilleThu Jan 12 1995 14:385
    Not impacted. Whole procedure took 20 minutes for 5 teeth. Will put
    some ice packs on just to make sure.
    
    The Crazy Met
    
47.1202AKOCOA::BREENIt's all in the outcomeThu Jan 12 1995 14:426
    Did they use a chisel and did the dentist call in help to help yank?
    
    The hammering and chiseling and commotion for my lousy wisdom tooth
    (teeth maybe? - it was in Parris Island with Navy doctors) was a riot.
    
    Pain came later.
47.1203at least i didn't have to choke down JFK chow for awhileAD::HEATHPitchers and catchers report when???Thu Jan 12 1995 15:0111
    
    
    re  The hammering and chiseling and commotion for my lousy wisdom tooth
        (teeth maybe? - it was in Parris Island with Navy doctors) was a riot.
    
     Had mine out by a Squid Dr. too. All 4, 2 impacted, with 2 shots of
    'cane.  Those guys are really butchers.
    
    Jerry
    
    
47.1204OUTSRC::HEISERGrace changes everythingThu Jan 12 1995 15:041
47.1205MSBCS::GALVINR.T. Galvin, PKO2 223-2625Thu Jan 12 1995 18:262
    RE; Crazy Met......No wonder this guy is soooo smart....5 wisdom teeth,
    whilst the rest of us only had 4.
47.1206MSE1::FRANCUSThere is no joy in MudvilleThu Jan 12 1995 20:475
    Thanks guy, unfortuntely one was not a wisdom tooth. Anyways some
    Tylenol and some sleep and it is sore just a tad.
    
    The Crazy Met
    
47.1207CNTROL::CHILDSTheresa's Sound WorldFri Jan 13 1995 10:334
 No PERKS???? I'd get a new dentist........

 ;^)
47.1208Who's Cooler?SPIKED::SWEENEYTom Sweeney in OGOFri Jan 13 1995 11:239
Dear JaKe,

	I came to my office this morning, and found a check from a friend.
On the check is Wiley Coyote chasing the Road Runner.  This got me thinking
and into my dilema.

	Who's cooler?  Wiley Coyote or the Tasmanian Devil?

	zamboni
47.1209MSE1::FRANCUSThere is no joy in MudvilleFri Jan 13 1995 16:414
    most definitely Wylie Coyote; it ain't even close.
    
    The Crazy Met
    
47.1210PCBUOA::LEFEBVREPCBU Asia/Pacific MarketingFri Jan 13 1995 16:436
    Definitely Wiley.
    
    Anyone dumb enough to fall for Bugs Bunny's rendition of the Tasmanian
    She-Devil doesn't compare to the Super Genius.
    
    Mark.
47.1211HELIX::MAIEWSKIFri Jan 13 1995 16:435
  Wylie Coyote

  That dog's got no quit.

  George
47.1212IMBETR::DUPREZFri Jan 13 1995 17:504
Anyone that has ever seen the epic Wile E. Coyote/Bugs
faceoff knows the answer...

"Wile E. Coyote - Sooooooooper Gennnnnniusssss..."
47.1213WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_MCanes and Hoyas,Canes and HoyasFri Jan 13 1995 17:574
    
    
    
        WILEY  by a mile!!!
47.1214Beep Beep!!!OLD1S::CADZILLA2CanyourollmeanotherBullDurhampleaseFri Jan 13 1995 18:083
    
    
    I'd take the Road Runner, aka Pisano Pete from Pecos
47.1215PTOS02::JACOBRSTEELERS-1994 AFC Central ChampsFri Jan 13 1995 18:314
    Whilst I personally prefer Bugs Bunny hisself, Wiley rules over Tasmo.
    
    JaKe
    
47.1216Yosemite Sam is The ManHBAHBA::HAASdingle lingoFri Jan 13 1995 18:440
47.1217PTOS02::JACOBRSTEELERS-1994 AFC Central ChampsFri Jan 13 1995 18:5410
    Yosemite Sam is good, but he's a loser, ain't never won anything, like
    when him and Bugs vied fer the 50k Cronkites fer whoever could climb
    the Schmatterhorn, and he din't do it, and when they fought fer the
    heart of the rich widow Emmy.  Sam is good, but he ain't bot what it
    takes to be a winner.
    
    (8^)*
    
    JaKe
    
47.1218Yosemite Sam: the Al Bundy of cartoonsHBAHBA::HAASdingle lingoFri Jan 13 1995 18:580
47.1219"When I say 'wo Mule', I mean 'wo Mule!"PCBUOA::LEFEBVREPCBU Asia/Pacific MarketingFri Jan 13 1995 19:003
    Yosemite Sam couldn't even get his camel to listen up.
    
    Mark.
47.1220"look at me when I'm a talkin'to ya son!ODIXIE::ZOGRANTestudo is still grounded!Fri Jan 13 1995 19:021
    Foghorn Leghorn, the master of the witty phrase.
47.1221CAMONE::WAYConspiring to make a mutiny...Fri Jan 13 1995 19:1221
Re Yosemite Sam:

	More properly put:  the DAN REEVES of the Bugs Bunny Cartoons.


>                 -< "look at me when I'm a talkin'to ya son! >-
>
>    Foghorn Leghorn, the master of the witty phrase.

He's cool too....



	Overture, hit the lights, this is it, our night of nights,
	No more rehearsing or nursing our parts, we know every part by heart.

	Overture, curtains lights, this is it, we'll hit the heights,
	and oh what heights we'll hit...

		On with the show this is it!

47.1222PTOS02::JACOBRSTEELERS-1994 AFC Central ChampsFri Jan 13 1995 19:255
    Foghorn Leghorn's best role would be in an oven, but he'd be tough
    lousy meat.
    
    JaKe
    
47.1223SNAX::ERICKSONTime for Vacation...Fri Jan 13 1995 19:525
    
    	Who was that little Mexican mouse?  UN-DA-LAY, UN-DA-LAY, YI-HA,
    YI-HA? 
    
    Ron
47.1224Who's faster Speedy or SonicAKOCOA::BREENIt's all in the outcomeFri Jan 13 1995 19:582
    Speedy Gonzalez.  My son and I like to debate the relative speeds of
    Speedy and Sonic the Hedgehog.
47.1225speedy gonzalesBSS::MENDEZFri Jan 13 1995 20:002
    speedy gonzales...
    
47.1226notes collisionBSS::MENDEZFri Jan 13 1995 20:001
    
47.1227TORREY::MAY_BRClinton happensFri Jan 13 1995 22:587
    My daughter and her other 5 year old friends always want to be Power
    Rangers and fight me.  I get to pick who I want to be, and that is, of
    course, Mighty Mouse.  They were really bummed when they figured out
    that Mighty Mouse is a good guy, so now I can't be Mighty Mouse
    anymore, I've gotta be a Putty.
    
    brews
47.1228Programmed cell deathMUNDIS::SSHERMANSteve Sherman @MFRMon Jan 16 1995 08:5716
.1221 by the Sawman his own self:

>	Overture, hit the lights, this is it, our night of nights,
>	No more rehearsing or nursing our parts, we know every part by heart.
>
>	Overture, curtains lights, this is it, we'll hit the heights,
>	and oh what heights we'll hit...
>
>		On with the show this is it!

God, how I envy people young enough to have functioning memories.

I can sing some of the above, and maybe it'll dawn on me in the course
of the afternoon, but right now, for the life of me I can't place it.

Steve
47.1229CAMONE::WAYConspiring to make a mutiny...Mon Jan 16 1995 11:509
>
>I can sing some of the above, and maybe it'll dawn on me in the course
>of the afternoon, but right now, for the life of me I can't place it.
>


It's what all the Looney Toons characters sang before each Looney Tunes
show.  They'd be lined up on the stage and sing it.  I remember Foghorn
Leghorn with that big tail of his......
47.1230Is this a generational thing?MUNDIS::SSHERMANSteve Sherman @MFRMon Jan 16 1995 13:076
I remember the Looney Tunes cartoons having a purely instrumental
theme.  'Saw, are you talking about a TV show?  I saw most of my
LT cartoons in the moom pitcher thee-ay-ters, at Saturday matinees
that kids got into for a quarter.

Steve
47.1231CAMONE::WAYConspiring to make a mutiny...Mon Jan 16 1995 13:4220
>                       -< Is this a generational thing? >-
>
>I remember the Looney Tunes cartoons having a purely instrumental
>theme.  'Saw, are you talking about a TV show?  I saw most of my
>LT cartoons in the moom pitcher thee-ay-ters, at Saturday matinees
>that kids got into for a quarter.
>


When I was a young lad (mid-60s), and beyond, because I remember seeing
it in college, they used to have an hour long cartoon show, called 
The Bugs Bunny Show, on Saturday morning.

The Bugs Bunny Show always started with "This Is It".....

The single Looney Toons cartoons had an instrumental theme, titled,
for you trivia buffs "The Merry Go Round Broke Down"


'Saw
47.1232a cute little dittyHBAHBA::HAASdingle lingoMon Jan 16 1995 13:4610
The Bugs Bunny show was actually at one time a Prime Time show.

In a case of what goes around comes around (or is that vice versa?) Bugs
was put on the tube by Warner Brothers who were making a big push way
back then. Now, they're trying to make it back with a bunch of Fox
ripoffs.

Like Saw said, Bugs opened with that ditty.

TTom
47.1233CTHQ::MCCULLOUGHLindsey is FIVE!!!Mon Jan 16 1995 13:583
Foghorn Leghorn's best line:

"Ah say, that's a joke son!"
47.1234a Daffy manCNTROL::CHILDSPresident of Donny Osmond FanClubMon Jan 16 1995 15:174
what about Buggs vs. Daffy????????/

mike
47.1235Anybody for Superbowl at Funworld?AKOCOA::BREENIt's all in the outcomeMon Jan 16 1995 18:488
    I watched second half of Pitt game from Funworld tv room - what a hard
    bitten crew.  Some dude marched in full of pitt money just before the
    final score and departed pretty quick.
    
    Unfortunately, I couldn't get out of there in time to catch Dallas-sf
    until after the 3tds - at which point I stopped hurrying.
    
    Second game was a bit drawn out, first was just plain exciting.
47.1236ONOFRE::MAY_BRpet rocks, pogs, Dallas CowboysWed Jan 25 1995 14:2112
    
    Took my daughter to Disney on Ice last night. Is this a sport? It was a
    diversion, for her anyway.  If so, big win for the young kid, Aladin. 
    Looked for a while like Jafar was gonna win, as he had several chances
    to put it away, but never finished well.  The Genie certainly
    underperformed to Rev. Smif type proportions though, considering the
    talent that he has at his disposal.
    
    Maybe George could explain the scoring to me.  I don't want to say this
    ain't a sport without understanding the scoring.
    
    brews   
47.1237CAMONE::WAYConspiring to make a mutiny...Wed Jan 25 1995 14:233
Was there any blood?

If there's blood, it automatically qualifies as a sport.....8^)
47.1238HELIX::MAIEWSKIWed Jan 25 1995 14:2413
RE    <<< Note 47.1236 by ONOFRE::MAY_BR "pet rocks, pogs, Dallas Cowboys" >>>

>    Maybe George could explain the scoring to me.  I don't want to say this
>    ain't a sport without understanding the scoring.
    
  Admit that you are the one starting this debate up again and get one person,
anyone, to agree that they would like to see us discuss this and I'd be more
than happy to jump in.

  You know dam well that if I just respond, I will be the one falsely accused
of restarting this debate, not you.

  George
47.1239WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_Mjan 1, 279, 270 267.. 230 or bust!!!!Wed Jan 25 1995 14:346
    
    
      Go ahead discuss amongst yourselfs
    
    
        I feel declemft!!!
47.1240ONOFRE::MAY_BRpet rocks, pogs, Dallas CowboysWed Jan 25 1995 14:3714
    
    Well, 'saw, the Genie took a fall and landed on his ass, and some other
    guy went flying through the air and missed landing on his feet, and got
    up shaken, do those count?  
    
    George, see the topic?  I'm just joking.  If I was serious, I'd have
    put this in the skating topic, not that there is anything more to be
    said over there.  Between you and Groaner leaving your senses of humor
    when you get in here, this place is gonna get boring.  
    
    This conference is supposed to be fun, like a tavern, where we can poke
    fun at each other without people getting all wound up.
    
    brews
47.1241BruuuuuuuceBSS::MENDEZWed Jan 25 1995 14:448
    Bruce
    Since we are poking fun at one another.... Ya have any Kenny G requests
    for hold music at the "NOT"line...
    
    Frank 9er Mendez
    
    BTW are ya back on the 49er wagon yet or still cheering on Danny Boy!!!
    
47.1242ONOFRE::MAY_BRpet rocks, pogs, Dallas CowboysWed Jan 25 1995 14:4910
    
    What is going on with you guys, there, Frank?  It takes a real long
    time on hold now, compared to just a week or so ago.
    
    As long as the niners ain't playing the Giants, I'll be on their wagon,
    even if Collie lover is driving the Giants' wagon.
    
    
    brews
    
47.1243CTHQ::MCCULLOUGHLindsey is FIVE!!!Wed Jan 25 1995 16:295
Yabbut is Igo (sp?) the ultimate Wardle-vane or what?  In
the movie he's on Jafar's side, but now I see on Saturday
mornngs he has jumped onto the Aladdin bandwagon.

=Bob=
47.1244TOOK::HALPINSteelers join the Browns in the Wait-til-next-year Club!!!Wed Jan 25 1995 17:2211
    
    
    >Yabbut is Igo (sp?) the ultimate Wardle-vane or what? 
    
    	Come on =Bob=, its Lago! I bet Lindsey could straighten
    you out on that! And yes the slimely little parrot is a Wardle-vane.
    He jumped to the Aladdin bandwagon in the video sequel, The Return
    of Jafar. (Available in fine Video Stores near you...)
    
    JimH
    
47.1245CTHQ::MCCULLOUGHLindsey is FIVE!!!Wed Jan 25 1995 17:268
Lago, Igo, Ago, whatever.  Remember, my clue is worn out.

I was trying to forget about "The Return of Jafar".  Talk 
about the sequel not being equal to the original - 
yeccchhh!  What a ripoff.  Mouse management knew it sipped,
so they only released it to video.

=Bob=
47.1246Why am I not surprisedAKOCOA::BREENOh Phu-bai, Oh Phu-bai. A helluva placeWed Jan 25 1995 17:271
    
47.1247CNTROL::CHILDSUMass &gt; UConnWed Jan 25 1995 18:173
 It's Iago....I had the toughest time with it too till I check out one
 of my kids' videos
47.1248PTOSS1::JACOBRWhen's training camp start???Wed Jan 25 1995 18:547
    Disney on Ice is no more a sport than WWF Wrassling is.  Hell, they're
    both choreographed down to the lasted move, excpet when somebody gets
    severely whacked in the filberts accidentally and spends a lot of time
    down on the ice/canvas.
    
    JaKe
    
47.1249HELIX::MAIEWSKIWed Jan 25 1995 19:0614
RE     <<< Note 47.1248 by PTOSS1::JACOBR "When's training camp start???" >>>

>    Disney on Ice is no more a sport than WWF Wrassling is.  Hell, they're
>    both choreographed down to the lasted move, excpet when somebody gets
>    severely whacked in the filberts accidentally and spends a lot of time
>    down on the ice/canvas.
    
  Well by definition they are both sports since both Disney on Ice and WWF
Wrassling are diversions. 

  No where in the dictionary's definition of the word "sport" does it say
that an activity is only a sport if there is a way of keeping score.

  George
47.1250Hulkster nails a Lutz!ODIXIE::ZOGRANTestudo is still grounded!Wed Jan 25 1995 19:144
    If they combined the WWF and Disney on Ice would the result still be
    considered a Sport ?
    
    UMDan      
47.1251METSNY::francusThere is no joy in MudvilleWed Jan 25 1995 19:156
re: .1250

If all you needed to call something a sport was that it be a diversion 
I don't see why not.

The Crazy Met
47.1252desperateGENRAL::WADEAh'm Yo Huckleberry...Wed Jan 25 1995 19:1917
Dear Jake,

	This morning, my oldest son approached me about playing
	<GASP!> soccer instead of baseball this spring.  After
	calmly stepping out onto the rear deck and spewing my
	Frosted Mini-Wheats onto a pine tree, I walked back in
	and told him we'd talk about it this evening.  Well, this
	evening is rapidly approaching and I am dreading it
	immensely.  

	He informed me that he would still play baseball in the
	summer league but I'm afraid he's gonna get sissified!

	What should I do?

Claybone
47.1253WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_Mjan 1, 279, 270 267.. 230 or bust!!!!Wed Jan 25 1995 19:205
    
    
       Small nit!
    
        Hulk is no longer in the WWF he is in the WCW???
47.1254What was that - Ice Wars??AKOCOA::BREENOh Phu-bai, Oh Phu-bai. A helluva placeWed Jan 25 1995 19:2110
    What was that Ice skating contest on the other night.  My wife dragged
    me into see Nancy and Oksana at it again and the Ukrainian beat her by
    .1.
    
    Now Michael J Fox was one of the judges and the men were joking around
    but it looked like the K was royally pissed again and disappeared
    (she's learning?) before throwing a public tantrum.
    
    Young Phil and I always bet these things and I tried to get him to take
    Kerrigan but even at 5 he's too smart.
47.1255METSNY::francusThere is no joy in MudvilleWed Jan 25 1995 19:217
re: .1252

Lock him up until he forswears such foolishness. This is no time to be
a softy.

The Crazy Met
47.1256PTOSS1::JACOBRWhen's training camp start???Wed Jan 25 1995 19:2413
    
    >>	What should I do?

    Let the kid dew what he wants.  If you don't. he'll come back and sue
    ya later in life saying that if f_cked up his psychy and turned him
    into a dysfunctional human being(they'll define about 30 billion new
    dysfunctions in the nexted 15 years and the court system is going to
    get clogged up wif kids suing their parents, along with psychologists
    getting rich and "fabricating" stuff outta these kids minds).
    
    JaKe
    
    
47.1257AKOCOA::BREENOh Phu-bai, Oh Phu-bai. A helluva placeWed Jan 25 1995 19:249
    Why is soccer more "sissified" than baseball.  I'd think it was
    football = "tough"(that's a joke) and everything else (maybe
    hockey,not) is coed.
    
    Soccer at the youth level is fairly tough with all the running around
    and at the skill level a lot of unpadded contact.
    
    Now if the baseball leaque is prone to beanball wars that's something
    else.
47.1258ROCK::GRONOWSKIThe dream is always the same...Wed Jan 25 1995 19:275
47.1259then wash his mouth out with soap!MKFSA::LONGClose, but no cigar!Wed Jan 25 1995 19:3215
    'bone,
    
    You've GOT to take extreme measures if necessary!  Don't be afraid
    to don your best McCarthy-lookalike outfit and tell him soccer is
    a communist plot to undermine the youth of this great country.
    
    Pull out all the stops and go into a Kate Smith rendition of 
    "God Bless America".  
    
    If all else fails use the tried and true line from JFK's 
    inauguration, "Ask not what baseball can do for you, ask what
    you can do for baseball."
    
    
    billl
47.1260ROCK::GRONOWSKIThe dream is always the same...Wed Jan 25 1995 19:332
47.1261MKFSA::LONGClose, but no cigar!Wed Jan 25 1995 19:368
    >>Where has Jake been?
    
    I called his house the other day and da Mrs said he was waiting 
    his turn at the Westinghouse Bridge.  Seems the queue is stalled
    with all the Browns fans turned Steeler converts.
    
    
    billl
47.1262ROCK::GRONOWSKIThe dream is always the same...Wed Jan 25 1995 19:404
47.1263If the Foo $hitsMKFSA::LONGClose, but no cigar!Wed Jan 25 1995 19:467
    >>Gee, I guess I never knew Jake was a Browns fan.
    
    Dint say he was.  Said there are others of that type.
    
    
    
    billl
47.1264PTOSS1::JACOBRWhen's training camp start???Wed Jan 25 1995 20:1211
    Alla our wonderful hardware has been breaking, so I been busier than a
    one-legged man in an ass kicking contest fer the lasted week or so, and
    thankful that I been busy, cause I put that jump time on the
    Westinghouse bridge on hold, cause it's only 6 months or so till
    training camp opens up and I think I cain stand it.  That and the
    thought of seeing the STEELERS wipe their a$$es wif the
    Brown(spot)s(tm) at least twice this coming season makes me think I
    cain go on, I cain go on, I cain go on...
    
    JaKe
    
47.1265METSNY::francusThere is no joy in MudvilleWed Jan 25 1995 20:1312
> Alla our wonderful hardware has been breaking, so I been busier than a
> one-legged man in an ass kicking contest fer the lasted week or so, and
> thankful that I been busy, cause I put that jump time on the
> Westinghouse bridge on hold

damn!


:-)

The Crazy Met
47.1266PTOSS1::JACOBRWhen's training camp start???Wed Jan 25 1995 20:157
    TCMutt,
    
    ya cain have my jump time fi ya want, I'll even pay the $5 fer the body
    bag.
    
    JaKe
    
47.1267CAMONE::WAYConspiring to make a mutiny...Thu Jan 26 1995 11:2612
Claybone,

Let him play soccer if'n he wants.  If he plays soccer in the spring, 
and baseball in the summer, his feet and his hands and eyes will be so
coordinated, and he'll have a lot of stamina, so he'll be better off 
come huntin' season.....


That'd be my cut at it....


'Saw
47.1268HELIX::MAIEWSKIThu Jan 26 1995 12:0719
RE <<< Note 47.1254 by AKOCOA::BREEN "Oh Phu-bai, Oh Phu-bai. A helluva place" >>>

>    What was that Ice skating contest on the other night.  My wife dragged
>    me into see Nancy and Oksana at it again and the Ukrainian beat her by
>    .1.
    
  Nancy and Oksana have gone pro and get paid to skate against each other in
pro events. These events are generally less demanding than the national or
international level amateur events. 

  The last word was that they have until about April to redeclare themselves as
amateurs if they want to return to amateur skating and compete for national and
international medals and skate in the '98 Olympics. 

  The Conventional Wisdom of the moment is that Oksana will return to the
amateur level and Nancy will stay pro doing Ice shows and the less demanding
pro competitions but either could change their mind.

  George 
47.1269Do they use Aluminum bats ?OURGNG::RIGGENNetworks Sales &amp; MarketingThu Jan 26 1995 22:427
If I understand this correctly Clay the use them wimpy "Aluminum" bats in 
Youth baseball and only plastic spikes. If that's true he's allready sissified. 

Buy him a tutu and sign him up fer ballet and tap classes for the remainder 
of the winter. 

Jeff
47.1270OUTSRC::HEISERGrace changes everythingWed Feb 22 1995 16:143
47.1271ROCK::GRONOWSKIThe dream is always the same...Wed Feb 22 1995 16:575
47.1272PTOSS1::JACOBRThu Feb 23 1995 12:294
    What's an "Area 51"???  Is it something like "Studio 54"????
    
    JaKe
    
47.1273OUTSRC::HEISERGrace changes everythingThu Feb 23 1995 14:031
47.1274death spiral ? selective memory ?MARIN::DODGEWed Mar 01 1995 19:465
    Dear Jake,
    	Why does Mike Heiser enter a note here and completely ignore the
    drubbing the CLIPPERS put on the Suns ?  Is there a trend here ?
    
    
47.1275Oh my! Look who's in first!OUTSRC::HEISERGrace changes everythingWed Mar 01 1995 20:163
47.1276ROCK::GRONOWSKIThe dream is always the same...Wed Mar 01 1995 20:524
47.1277FACTOUTSRC::HEISERGrace changes everythingWed Mar 01 1995 21:061
47.1278ROCK::GRONOWSKIThe dream is always the same...Thu Mar 02 1995 00:433
47.1279:-)TOOK::HALPINJim Halpin LKG1-3/L6 226-5740Thu Mar 02 1995 12:269
    
    
    >Fact the Suns have won as many championships as the Clippers.
    
    	And the Cavs!!!!
    
    
    
    
47.1280OUTSRC::HEISERGrace changes everythingThu Mar 02 1995 14:3711
47.1281PTOSS1::JACOBRLernin' me agin!Thu Mar 02 1995 15:495
    Who really cares????
    
    
    JaKe
    
47.1282ROCK::GRONOWSKIThe dream is always the same...Thu Mar 02 1995 16:089
47.1283OUTSRC::HEISERGrace changes everythingThu Mar 02 1995 16:561
47.1284ROCK::HUBERFrom Seneca to Cuyahoga FallsThu Mar 02 1995 18:152
    
    No.
47.1285OUTSRC::HEISERGrace changes everythingThu Mar 02 1995 18:291
47.1286Cavs sip!TOOK::HALPINJim Halpin LKG1-3/L6 226-5740Thu Mar 02 1995 18:5212
    
    
    
    	The Cavs first season was 70-71. Two whole seasons after the Suns.
    
    	Yups, that's a whole bunch more frustration for them Suns fans!!!
    
    	At least the Suns have made it to the NBA finals a couple of times.
    Have the Cav's ever made it to the Conference finals even????
    
    JimH
    
47.1287ROCK::HUBERFrom Seneca to Cuyahoga FallsThu Mar 02 1995 18:584
    
>    Have the Cav's ever made it to the Conference finals even????
    
    Yes, twice.
47.1288OUTSRC::HEISERGrace changes everythingThu Mar 02 1995 19:141
47.1289TOOK::HALPINJim Halpin LKG1-3/L6 226-5740Thu Mar 02 1995 19:2610
    
    
    >Do the Cavs believe figure skating is a sport?  I know the Suns don't.
    
    	In Phoenix???? HA! The Suns probably don't even beleive in ICE!!!!
    
    
    :-)
    
    
47.1290OUTSRC::HEISERGrace changes everythingThu Mar 02 1995 19:474
47.1291PTOSS1::JACOBRLernin' me agin!Fri Mar 03 1995 11:344
    Take it somewhere where someone gives a sh_t!!!
    
    JaKe
    
47.1292ONOFRE::MAY_BRpet rocks, pogs, Dallas CowboysFri Mar 03 1995 13:435
    several hockey teams???!!!  The roadrunners have been around for just a
    few years and ain't done Diddley.  Even less than the Cadavers.  The
    few amateur teams here are even worse.
    
    brews 
47.1293what's icing?POBOX::WIERSBECKFri Mar 03 1995 13:458
    Hey Bruce!
    
    C'mon, you know the hockey hotbeds... Boston, Minnesota, Phoenix.
    
    :*)
    
    
    Spud
47.1294OUTSRC::HEISERGrace changes everythingFri Mar 03 1995 13:552
47.1295TOOK::HALPINJim Halpin LKG1-3/L6 226-5740Fri Mar 03 1995 14:1011
    
    
    >The point being is that hockey is alive and well here and they earn
    >proper points for their skating.
    
    	There ain't nothin' "proper" about Hockey. Witness Cam Neely
    trying to ram Claude Lemiuex's head into the boards lasted night!!!
    
    JimH :-)
    
    
47.1297Go Pens!MKFSA::LONGLet your tongue hang out. Stay cool.Fri Mar 03 1995 14:277
    Got my tix for Saturday's Broons-Pens game.  Wonder if we'll see
    Cammie get all worked up again, blow his cool and get taken off
    his game AGAIN.
    
    
    
    billl
47.1298TOOK::HALPINJim Halpin LKG1-3/L6 226-5740Fri Mar 03 1995 15:1810
    
    
    	Dear Jake,
    
    		Do you get mad when nobody asks you questions in this
    note???
    
    JimH
    
    
47.1299KAOFS::MCCANNFri Mar 03 1995 15:496
    RE: 1297
    
      If he takes Ulf's head with him, then I hope Cam does get off
    his game.
    
    Dennis ;-)
47.1300PTOSS1::JACOBRLernin' me agin!Fri Mar 03 1995 15:554
    No to Heiser and the ??? a couple back
    
    JaKE
    
47.1301PCBUOA::LEFEBVREPCBU Asia/Pacific MarketingFri Mar 10 1995 15:165
    Dear Jake,
    
    Where would the Phoenix Diamondbacks hold spring training?
    
    Mark.
47.1302CAMONE::WAYUSS Grampus, SS-207, In MemoriamFri Mar 10 1995 15:243
>    Where would the Phoenix Diamondbacks hold spring training?
    
Rio?
47.1303OUTSRC::HEISERGrace changes everythingFri Mar 10 1995 15:561
47.1304PTOSS1::JACOBRLernin' me agin!Fri Mar 10 1995 21:2413
    
    >>Dear Jake,
    
    >>Where would the Phoenix Diamondbacks hold spring training?
    
    >>Mark.

    
    I'd suggest Anchorage, Alaska.
    
    JaKe
    
    
47.1305TOOK::HALPINJim Halpin LKG1-3/L6 226-5740Wed Mar 15 1995 18:0410
    
    
    	Dear Jake,
    
    		Is it possible for me to have an endless
    "figger-skating-is-a-sport" type debate whithout anybody else
    replying to my notes???
    
    JimH
    
47.1306CAMONE::WAYUSS Triton, SS-201, On Eternal PatrolWed Mar 15 1995 18:0511
>    	Dear Jake,
>    
>    		Is it possible for me to have an endless
>    "figger-skating-is-a-sport" type debate whithout anybody else
>    replying to my notes???
    

Hey, there, JimH, we don't go in for self-abuse in these parts....8^)

    

47.1307PTOSS1::JACOBRHow's your 'WENUS'???Wed Mar 15 1995 18:4016
    
    >>	Dear Jake,
    
    >>		Is it possible for me to have an endless
    >>"figger-skating-is-a-sport" type debate whithout anybody else
    >>replying to my notes???
    
    >>JimH
    
    Nah, if you(gm) say it's (gm) not a sport(gm), you'll have one
    person(gm) in here who will swear(gm) up one side and (gm) down the
    other(gm) that it is(gm) a sport.  I cain't mention(gm) his name, but I
    hope I can(gm) maybe give it to you(gm) subliminally.
    
    JaKe
    
47.1308HELIX::MAIEWSKIThu Mar 16 1995 12:094
  Hey, we got our own notes file now. We can argue this until our fingers
turn blue and bother no one.

  George
47.1309congratsOUTSRC::HEISERGrace changes everythingThu Mar 16 1995 13:541
47.1310This question is for a friend mind you!!!!WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_MNY YANKEES 1995 WORLD CHAMPS!!!!!Wed Apr 19 1995 14:5213
    
    
          Jake,
    
           Do you think it would be abnormal, if say a friend of yours
    had a..... hero and his birthday was tomorrow. Well is it abnormal to
    have a...uh... birthday party at your house for him than say videotape
    it and send it to uh...... Yankee Stadium so he would see he is being
    supported in his goal for his first CHAMPIONSHIP.
    
       Thats not strange is it Jake huh is it?
    
    Chap
47.1311CAMONE::WAYUSS Snook SS-279, On Eternal PatrolWed Apr 19 1995 15:046
Seek psychological help NOW Chappie.

Don't pass GO, don't collect $200, just go seek help......


'Saw
47.1312PTOSS1::JACOBRWed Apr 19 1995 22:355
    As long as all of the participants remove all of their clothes at some
    time in the video, it's kosher.
    
    JaKe
    
47.1313NRA = Not Rational AmericansROCK::GRONOWSKIThe dream is always the same...Tue Apr 25 1995 00:558
47.1314PTOSS1::JACOBRPlaying with box the kids came in!Tue Apr 25 1995 04:2411
    
    
    >>					Why does these clowns continually
    >>fight to have automatic and semi-automatic weapons available to the
    >>public?                          
    
    It's totally necessary so they can protect the rest fo the United
    States from Cleveland fans.
    
    JaKe
    
47.1315GENRAL::WADEAh'm Yo Huckleberry...Tue Apr 25 1995 13:324
    
    	Why don't you go ask your question in ::soapbox where it belongs?
    
    Bozo
47.1316NRA? Does it stand for nazi radical americans?ROCK::GRONOWSKIThe dream is always the same...Tue Apr 25 1995 13:474
47.1317PCBUOA::LEFEBVREPCBU Asia/Pacific MarketingTue Apr 25 1995 14:255
    Jake, why do gun control lobbyists continue to push for gun
    restrictions that have zero impact on the occurrence of violent crimes
    committed with guns?

    Mark.
47.1318PTOSS1::JACOBRPlaying with box the kids came in!Tue Apr 25 1995 14:3112
    Lufay, 
    
    I gots no idear.  Personally, I don't own any guns, but I'm smart enuf
    to know that 99% of the guns on the street that are used in crimes are
    obtained illegally anyways, and gun control legislation wouldn't do
    jack shit to stop those weapons.  Now, as fer some of the Ammo that the
    NRA fights to be kept legal, like armor piercing bullets and the like,
    I only gots one thing to say, how many deer and elk have you seen
    wearing armor????
    
    JaKe
    
47.1319SALEM::DODAMasquerading fatherTue Apr 25 1995 14:485
JaKe,

Love the P-name.

daryll
47.1320... "slip slide'n away"...HELIX::MAIEWSKITue Apr 25 1995 14:594
   YAGN

   George
47.1321GENRAL::WADEAh'm Yo Huckleberry...Tue Apr 25 1995 15:167
    
    Paul,
    
    	You can probably tell that I belong to the NRA.  I don't
    	appreciate the title of .1316 in the least.  Delete it.
    
    Clay
47.1322PTOSS1::JACOBRPlaying with box the kids came in!Tue Apr 25 1995 16:0322
    ******LDUC ALERT******
    
    
    In this corner, wearing the Bronco Orange and Blue short, sporting the
    9mm, Claybone Wade,
    
    And in that corner
    
    
    Sporting the Clevescum orange shorts, with the aftermarket brown spot
    on the seat, sporting the whip he has used to beat numerous issues to
    death, asking if he has ever won a championship, the one, the
    only(thank God), Rathole Groaner.
    
    At the bell, please take this LDUC to mail.
    
    Thank you, have a crappy day
    
    (DING)
    
    JaKe
    
47.1323CAMONE::WAYUSS Grenadier SS-210, On Eternal PatrolTue Apr 25 1995 16:0718
Alright, everybody shelve this one, or take it to mail.

I can't even go to a training class in peace....


I'll give the parties involved the rest of the day to hide or delete the
notes that THEY KNOW will be termed offensive to others -- and if you need
me to tell you which they are there's something radically wrong with the
cranial matter.

As an added measure, I'll pass on  that there was one that I found offensive
so let's get smart people.

I'm not in the mood to play kindergarten teacher these days, so don't push
me....


'Saw
47.1324Kill or be Killed, that will get us HereMR1PST::THEKGB::MBROOKSTue Apr 25 1995 19:5620
    Im very ashamed of some of you I would expect these sort of notes from
    someone like, lets see.. Oh ya ME :-) but the rest of you should know
    better.
    
    I agree with the statment that 99% of all guns used in crimes were
    obtained illegally, guess what the bad guys dont care what the laws
    are (Pretty obvious there).  But just like if you stop feeding a fish
    in a tank food he will eventually die, if you cut off the supply of
    guns they will eventually have less and less illegal ones on the street
    
    The answer's are so obviuos that they will never be implemented, just
    look accross the lake and see how many violent crimes are commeted in
    England, then tell me gun's dont kill.
    
    It would be unfair/unconstitutional to ban arms but lets get serious
    about defining arms, some people think handgranades and tanks should
    be sold at the local walmart and car dealerships...
    
    
    								mab
47.1325GENRAL::WADEAh'm Yo Huckleberry...Tue Apr 25 1995 20:002
    
    	Why do you toy with me Paul?
47.1326(8^)*PTOSS1::JACOBRPlaying with box the kids came in!Tue Apr 25 1995 20:049
    
    >>It would be unfair/unconstitutional to ban arms but lets get serious
    
    And even MORE unconstitutional to ban legs, without which the crybaby
    overpaid geeks we call baseball players would have to crawl around the
    bases.
    
    JaKe
    
47.1327MSBCS::BRYDIEI need somebody to shove!Tue Apr 25 1995 20:088
    
       I will never understand why people constantly bring up these
      types of issues in SPORTS. You want a good look at how futile
      it is to discuss these things in a forum like this peek at the 
      place where they're *supposed* to be discussed. It's waste of 
      time. 
    
      BTW - Paul's notes were totally improper. 
47.1328BSS::NEUZILJust call me FredTue Apr 25 1995 20:2815
>        <<< Note 47.1327 by MSBCS::BRYDIE "I need somebody to shove!" >>>
>
>    
>       I will never understand why people constantly bring up these
>      types of issues in SPORTS. You want a good look at how futile
>      it is to discuss these things in a forum like this peek at the 
>>      place where they're *supposed* to be discussed. It's waste of 
>      time. 
>    
>      BTW - Paul's notes were totally improper. 

	I'm with you Tommy, I have strong feelings on the subject, but I don't 
	think this belongs in SPROTS.

	Kevin
47.1329GENRAL::WADEAh'm Yo Huckleberry...Tue Apr 25 1995 21:2818
    
    	And neither do I (feel any of this belongs in SPORTS).  
    
    	Lately in this file, I get to read comments like "talk radio
    	call in types", "right wing trash" and other thinly veiled
    	innuendos under the guise of a sports related comment.  I'm
    	sick of it.  
    
    	Now I get to read that I'm a Nazi Racist American for belonging
    	to a certain organization.  Only a couple of you in this file
    	have ever met me but I can assure you that I am only one of those
    	three.  I took great offense at that description.  
    
    	I know that "He started it." is a lame excuse so I'll just say
    	I'm sorry to the readership.
    
    Claybone
 
47.1330HELIX::MAIEWSKITue Apr 25 1995 21:378
  Yeah I know what you mean. I got dumped on a great deal last year because
I rocked the boat by saying I liked Figure Skating. Boy was that politically
incorrect. "Cindy" sport and all that.

  What can you say, it's that kind of file. A certain amount of ribbing is to
be expected.

  George
47.1331there's no comparisonOUTSRC::HEISERthe dumbing down of AmericaTue Apr 25 1995 21:491
47.1332HELIX::MAIEWSKIWed Apr 26 1995 13:378
  So it's OK to dump on someone who likes a "Cindy" sport but it's not ok to
point out that player bashing notes are similar to what you hear on radio call
in shows. 

  Ok no problem, just getting straight what is politically correct and what is
not. 

  George 
47.1333let's get back to SPROTSHBAHBA::HAASYou ate my hiding place.Wed Apr 26 1995 14:349
George, let us know when you got it figgered out. ;-)

I think the real change is that we used to able to rag on each other
about neutral topics like whether the Suns sipped or not, whether Dean
choked, etc.

Now it seems that everything is personal.

TTom
47.1334HELIX::MAIEWSKIWed Apr 26 1995 15:3411
  Oh I've got it figure out. One set of rules for those who like to dump on
"Cindy" sports, another for those who like to rag on ball players.

  Calling someone "clueless" for not understanding that "Cindy" sports are
not real sports is ok, but show the obvious similarity between those who
rag on ball players and those who frequent the radio sports call in shows and
you've crossed the line to personal comments.

  No, I've got it figured out. Now back to sports.

  George
47.1335CAMONE::WAYUSS Grenadier SS-210, On Eternal PatrolWed Apr 26 1995 15:581
All you guys need to SERIOUSLY get a life.....
47.1336I hate catsOUTSRC::HEISERthe dumbing down of AmericaWed Apr 26 1995 18:193
47.1337HELIX::MAIEWSKIWed Apr 26 1995 18:356
  This being spring, if it's a female that hasn't been fixed, then it's
probably in heat. If that's the case then you might be hearing it or you might
be hearing the neighborhood Toms who want to get into the house to pay her a
visit. 

  George 
47.1338you bad-mouthing me, George? ;-)HBAHBA::HAASYou ate my hiding place.Wed Apr 26 1995 18:390
47.1339OUTSRC::HEISERthe dumbing down of AmericaWed Apr 26 1995 21:291
47.1340MKOTS3::LONGSpring has sprung, grass has rizWed Apr 26 1995 23:536
    >>Is it okay to use the Mr.T "mice method" to get rid of crying cats?
    
    I believe it is the preferred method.
    
    
    billl
47.1341PTOSS1::JACOBRPlaying with box the kids came in!Thu Apr 27 1995 17:439
    I been having trouble with some damned cats using our flower box as
    their personal toilet.  I put a couple of mouse traps juyst below thye
    surface of the dirt, a few have been snapped, hopefully on the genitals
    of the cats taking a dump or a leak there.  My nexted move is to opt
    for the bigger and better sized rat traps.
    
    
    JaKe
    
47.1342PCBUOA::LEFEBVREPCBU Asia/Pacific MarketingThu Apr 27 1995 17:585
    Buy a bottle of "Pet B Gone" which costs about $3.00 (certainly less $$
    and more humane than rat traps).  Spray that around the base and you'll
    be rid of the cats.  
    
    Mark.
47.1343nyuk, nyukMKOTS3::LONGSpring has sprung, grass has rizThu Apr 27 1995 18:137
    re Pet-b-gone:
    
    Yabbut (tm) what effect will this have on JaKe's desire to come home
    at night?
    
    
    billl
47.1344OUTSRC::HEISERthe dumbing down of AmericaThu Apr 27 1995 18:582
47.1345PTOSS1::JACOBRPlaying with box the kids came in!Thu Apr 27 1995 19:1524
    
    >> <<< Note 47.1342 by PCBUOA::LEFEBVRE "PCBU Asia/Pacific Marketing" >>>

    >>Buy a bottle of "Pet B Gone" which costs about $3.00 (certainly less $$
    >>and more humane than rat traps).  Spray that around the base and you'll
    >>be rid of the cats.  
    
    >>Mark.

    We've tried that, and 3 other kinds of "humane" stuff, too.  Not a
    damned thing worked.  And we surrounded the whole flower box with the
    stuff, even sprinkled the stuff throughout the flower box.  Every time
    we put some of that stuff down, they seem to INCREASE the frequency
    with which they "fertilize" the place.
    
    Wish I could devise a sort of grid that, when the animal started doing
    it's business, it shorted to parts of the grid and jolted them in the
    privates.  I know fer sure they'd think twice about doing it there
    again, and they'd probably tell their friends to steer clear of the
    place too.
    
    JaKe
    
    
47.1346PCBUOA::LEFEBVREPCBU Asia/Pacific MarketingThu Apr 27 1995 19:153
    Red Pepper.
    
    Mark.
47.1347E-laxSALEM::DODAMasquerading fatherThu Apr 27 1995 19:181
47.1348HELIX::MAIEWSKIThu Apr 27 1995 19:258
  Haven't you guys ever heard of dogs?

  The idea is this, if you have mice, you get cats. Cats start getting out of
hand, you get a dog.

  This isn't exactly a new idea.

  George
47.1349PTOSS1::JACOBRPlaying with box the kids came in!Thu Apr 27 1995 19:269
    I've thunk about the exlax one, mixed with some catnip.
    
    I wish I could rig something up to swipe the thang's butt with
    turpentine when it squats.  Tlak about a memory for a cat!!!
    
    JaKe
    
    
    
47.1350CAMONE::WAYUSS Grenadier SS-210, On Eternal PatrolThu Apr 27 1995 19:2715
No, Mark has the secret.

Red Pepper, sprinkled liberally in the area will generally keep them out.
Unless they're the new breed of cat that like cajun cooking..

Seriously, when I was a kid we had a lot of problems with what you're
describing.  Red pepper was the only thing that worked.


I don't dislike cats, but two of my pet (no pun inteneded) peeves are
folks who let their cats out to mess up other people's flower bed, and
folks who just let their dogs out to sh*t in someone else's yard and
who don't clean up after the dog....

'Saw
47.1351I love cats, DEEP FRIED, they taste like chickenPTOSS1::JACOBRPlaying with box the kids came in!Thu Apr 27 1995 19:2917
    George, 98% of cats I've been around cain win when it comes to a
    confrontation with a dog.  Grant it, there are some dogs that win by
    sheer size, but, put a medium sized dog up against a full grown cat,
    and most of the time the dog will be the one to leave first, due to
    injury.  Cat claws can be a mean thing.
    
    Mice ain't what draws cats to a place.  I've lived here 12+ years and
    have yet to see a mouse, or any remnants of a mouse or mouse droppings.
    
    I have neighbors who feel it their necessity to own 8-10 cats, and let
    them roam wherever they want to.
    
    A good 12 guage would cure all of my cat problems.
    
    JaKe
    
    
47.1352HELIX::MAIEWSKIThu Apr 27 1995 20:058
  I'm not talking about one of those little mop like things that people call
a dog, I'm talking German Shepard. Or of you are not into big money, something
that's part Shepard, part Lab or perhaps Husky. That should make the cats back
off. 

  Also help with rounding up the sheep.

  George
47.1353OUTSRC::HEISERthe dumbing down of AmericaThu Apr 27 1995 20:246
47.1354PTOSS1::JACOBRPlaying with box the kids came in!Thu Apr 27 1995 22:1010
    Had a neighbor once who had a Doberman that loved cats, but could never
    get the best of them.
    
    When he was finally put down(old age), he only had one eye, half of a
    left ear, and had lost numerous fights with cats.  he never learned
    either his lesson or how to fight with cats, cause he was continually
    coming home with the sh!t scratched out of him, bleeding and limping.
    
    JaKe
    
47.1355ROCK::GRONOWSKIThe dream is always the same...Fri Apr 28 1995 11:274
47.1356SALEM::DODAMasquerading fatherFri Apr 28 1995 12:553
He's having a hard enough time catching the cat, forget moths...

daryll
47.1357Anybody got a teeeny tiny knife???PTOSS1::JACOBRPlaying with box the kids came in!Fri Apr 28 1995 16:167
    I never understood how people can castrate moths to use their filberts
    in their clothes, let alone want to.
    
    Moth balls, aren't they like those crunchy white cakes in urinals???
    
    JaKe
    
47.1358dunnoHBAHBA::HAASYou ate my hiding place.Fri Apr 28 1995 16:206
>    Moth balls, aren't they like those crunchy white cakes in urinals???

I don't know. I've never eaten any cakes outta a urinal. I have no idea
which of them are crunchy.

TTom
47.1359PTOSS1::JACOBRPlaying with box the kids came in!Fri Apr 28 1995 16:218
    That was a friend of mine who told me about that!!
    
    BTW, I bought some red pepper today, going to sprinkle it around when
    teh rain stops.  My luck, I'll get some smart assed cat who loves hot
    cooking.
    
    JaKe
    
47.1360OUTSRC::HEISERthe dumbing down of AmericaFri Apr 28 1995 16:561
47.1361:^)CSLALL::BRULEWas there life before ESPN?Fri Apr 28 1995 17:035
    >>My luck, I'll get some smart assed cat who loves hot cooking.
    
      Nah, probably a numb-assed cat.
    
    Mike
47.1362CAMONE::WAYUSS Grenadier SS-210, On Eternal PatrolFri Apr 28 1995 17:136
Supposedly the red pepper is an after affect deal.

Cats are tidier than dogs and always cover up what they leave behind.  Later
on, when they clean themselves, they lick their paws.  

It worked for us years ago.....
47.1363Pie TinsSPIKED::SWEENEYTom Sweeney in OGOFri Apr 28 1995 19:3415
JaKe,

	Get some aluminum pie tins and fill 'em up with water.  Put them on
top of your flower box so when the cat jumps up, the gets feets wet.  They
don't like that at 'tall.

	We've problems with our cats jumping on the counters.  We do that, and
then they don't jump up for quite the while.  The pie tins are key cuz they're
low enough that the cat's can't really see them until their coming 
down.  Plus they make some noise as they're crashing around.....

	Worse comes to worse, you could then run an electric wire attached to
a battery through the tins!

	zamboni
47.1364PTOSS1::JACOBRPlaying with box the kids came in!Fri Apr 28 1995 19:3710
    My b-i-l's brother is an electronics whiz.   He devised a
    "anti-burglar" device which would put enough charge on a car, when
    activated, to put a minor buzz of electricity thru ya.  Unfortunately,
    the poor dog that pissed on the car while it was on only felt the pain
    shooting thru his johnson.  Damned fastest dog I've ever seen.
    
    Was truly hilarious to see.
    
    JaKe
    
47.1365Must be related to LorainaMKOTS3::LONGSpring has sprung, grass has rizFri Apr 28 1995 20:116
    re .1364
    
    Some sick part of me finds this hilarious.
    
    
    billl
47.1366PCBUOA::LEFEBVREPCBU Asia/Pacific MarketingMon May 01 1995 16:343
    Urban legend.
    
    Mark.
47.1367PTOSS1::JACOBRPlaying with box the kids came in!Mon May 01 1995 18:247
    Urban legend my ass, it was personally witnessed at my b-i-l's house by
    me, my b-i-l, and his brother, who designed and made the device.
    
    Hey Lufay, go sit on an acitvated cow prod.
    
    JaKe
    
47.1368PCBUOA::LEFEBVREA Repo Man is always intenseMon May 01 1995 19:375
    Yeah right.
    
    Personally witnessed...never heard that one before.
    
    Mark.
47.1369PTOSS1::JACOBRPlaying with box the kids came in!Mon May 01 1995 20:286
    You calling me a liar, loo-fay????
    
    If so, &%^*# #$%^.
    
    JaKe
    
47.1370PTOSS1::JACOBRPlaying with box the kids came in!Mon May 01 1995 20:5827
    Ya know, I think I'm pretty easy going, but if anybody wants to really
    piss me off, just start calling me a liar, like dipsh_t Lufay did.
    
    Hey Loo-fay.
    
    My brother in law's brother teaches electricity/electronics at Penn
    State, Mckeesport Pa. campus. The guy is a wizard with electronics, and
    regularly shows up at fambily functions sporting some new "gadget" that
    usually does something relatively useless, but in an entertaining sort
    of way.  Well, on the day you say is an urban legend, he shows up, and
    tells me to go get something or other out of the car.  I got a minor
    jolt, slightly more than a tingle, when I touched the door handle.  He
    had fun getting people to get "jolted" thru the evening.  About 8:30 or
    so, there's the 3 of us, me, my brother in law, and his brother,
    sitting on the front porch, with beers in hand, just shooting the sh!t. 
    Up comes this mutt, sniffing around, and decides to take a piss.  Said
    mutt starts to piss on car, lets out the loudest "yelp" I've ever
    heard when the electricity hits his dick, and takes off up the road at
    approximately 2 mph under the speed of light, leaving a stream of piss
    all the way.
    
    Now, it was about 9 years ago that this happened, so I doubt there's
    any remnants of the piss laying around, but if you want some, I'll send
    ya some bozo.
    
    JaKe
    
47.1371WMOIS::MAZURKASon_Of_One_Who_Likes_To_Ramble.Mon May 01 1995 21:056
    Put A_Bowl of Anti_Freeze out there.That will take care of em.
    When I was A_Kid Some_One Offed my Buddy's Dog by doing that.
    
    
       Crazy_I_Know_It's_Heart_Less_But.._Al
    
47.1372Is my bil > your bil story a sport? - next OPP - make bets nowAKOCOA::BREENMon May 01 1995 22:031
    
47.1373PCBUOA::LEFEBVREA Repo Man is always intenseTue May 02 1995 13:233
    Yeah, sure.
    
    Mark.
47.1374PTOSS1::JACOBRPlaying with box the kids came in!Tue May 02 1995 15:154
    A$$hole is too good a word to describe you with, Loo-Fay.
    
    JaKe
    
47.1375OUTSRC::HEISERthe dumbing down of AmericaTue May 02 1995 15:451
47.1376ROCK::GRONOWSKIThe dream is always the same...Tue May 09 1995 11:3814
47.1377PTOSS1::JACOBRPlaying with box the kids came in!Tue May 09 1995 13:1212
    Groaner, before you question Heiser, you should look in your own
    backyard.  firstly, the line is only "famous" to it's user, to the rest
    of us, it's a sign of someone who had a low birth weight, breast fed
    from the family dog, and ate the "tootsie rolls" the dog left in the
    yard.
    
    Anybody who would want to "plagiarize" anything from someone who's most
    constants note is the "how many blah blah blah" is only sinking to your
    level to hair-ass ya.
    
    JaKe
    
47.1378RA90'sOUTSRC::HEISERthe dumbing down of AmericaTue May 09 1995 19:024
47.1379CAMONE::WAYUSS Largato SS-371, In MemoriamTue May 09 1995 19:1110
>
>    Hey Jake, how do you change the drive number on an RA90?
>    
>    thanks,
>    Mike


Magic Marker?

[many 8^)]
47.1380;-)OUTSRC::HEISERthe dumbing down of AmericaTue May 09 1995 19:151
47.1381got itOUTSRC::HEISERthe dumbing down of AmericaTue May 09 1995 19:211
47.1382PTOSS1::JACOBRPlaying with box the kids came in!Tue May 09 1995 19:294
    Hell, I coulda answered that one, too.
    
    JaKe
    
47.1383found the manual, and Tommy sent me one tooOUTSRC::HEISERthe dumbing down of AmericaTue May 09 1995 19:301
47.1384OLD1S::CADZILLA2II it ain't fixed , don't break itTue May 09 1995 19:3113
    
    Read the drive manual/losers guide. 
    
    It's all done with the front panel. 
    
    deselect the a+b port switch
    press the test switch.
     press A to increment the unit number
     press B to move to next digit
    
    
    HTH 
     
47.1385OLD1S::CADZILLA2II it ain't fixed , don't break itTue May 09 1995 19:334
    
    damn you guys are fast  
    
    you the answer while I was typing it in.
47.1386ONOFRE::MAY_BRMich fightsong=1bourbon,1scotch &amp;1beerTue May 09 1995 19:594
    get a decent drive.  sheeesh, my customer got rid of those things years
    ago, and they gotta pay full price for them.
    
    brews
47.1387CAMONE::WAYUSS Largato SS-371, In MemoriamThu May 11 1995 13:052
Leave it to us to design a drive that has such a convoluted method to
modify the drive number....8^)
47.1388;-)OUTSRC::HEISERthe dumbing down of AmericaThu May 11 1995 16:011
47.1389CAMONE::WAYUSS Largato SS-371, In MemoriamThu May 11 1995 16:2711
>
>    Yeah, in the good ole days you just changed the "READY" light plug.
>

Yep.  And you'd better have made the little "legs" match up correctly.  8^)

But seriously, who in their right might would EVER think of having to hit
the TEST light to modify a drive number.

I mean, I know it sounds a bit "Andy Rooney-ish", but doesn't TEST mean
TEST   8^)
47.1390PTOSS1::JACOBRPlaying with box the kids came in!Thu May 11 1995 16:4114
    "test" scares some customers, and the ones it does scare are less
    lickely to f___ with it when they shouldn't.
    
    As per the old "ready" plug, it worked pretty good, but on some
    wywtems, all ya had to do was pull that plug and it would crash the
    system, because the drive went away.  We had a moron here in Pittsburgh
    who was on site, and the ready light was burnt out. the Customer was
    doing his end of  month sorting and processing, this bozo pulls the
    plug to change the light bulb, down comes the system.  Customer reboots
    and does processing again, this time it's off by $40k.  the Customer
    was not happy, to say the least.  And no, it was not me.
    
    JaKe
    
47.1391don't be so "plug-and-play"!MKOTS3::LONGLife is better left to chance.Thu May 11 1995 16:5011
    re disk unit numbers:
    
    Sorry, as an ex-service guy, I have no compasion for anyone who
    is too damn lazy to read the freakin' user's manual to see how
    to change the unit number.  It really isn't that tough.
    
    What would you expect, a complete numberic keypad on the front
    of each drive with a CHANGE UNIT NUMBER button?
    
    
    billl
47.1392MSBCS::BRYDIEI need somebody to shove!Thu May 11 1995 16:513
   >> We had a moron here in Pittsburgh
    
      What are the chances of that?
47.1393MKOTS3::LONGLife is better left to chance.Thu May 11 1995 16:531
    he's baaaaaack.....
47.1394;-)OUTSRC::HEISERthe dumbing down of AmericaThu May 11 1995 18:171
47.1395CAMONE::WAYUSS Largato SS-371, In MemoriamThu May 11 1995 18:5515
I'm always telling folks to read the manual.  

But, one of the things we've always taken a hit on in software is naming
something that relates to what it does.

If you want a routine to log status messages to the operator console, you
don't call the routine bcc$try_test_and_see_if_this_logs_to_console().

What it sounds like you're doing on the drive is providing a menu from
which the system manager can then do some things.  If that's the case,
a proper design would be to call the button menu, and then include a test
choice.....

One of the old tape drives had a menu button I think.  I know the 
declaser 2100 has one....
47.1396Not fair, he cain't defend hisselfPTOSS1::JACOBRPlaying with box the kids came in!Thu May 11 1995 19:3913
    
  >>      <<< Note 47.1392 by MSBCS::BRYDIE "I need somebody to shove!" >>>

  >> >> We had a moron here in Pittsburgh
    
  >>    What are the chances of that?
    
    Yeah, TCM swings thru here every now and then.
    
    (8^)*
    
    JaKe
    
47.1397PTOSS1::JACOBRPlaying with box the kids came in!Thu May 11 1995 20:3643
I sent TCM a synopsis of what I put in here, here's what he replied:
    
    ==========================================================================
    
    
From:	PTOSS1::US2RMC::"francus@yossi.com" "Yoseff Francus" 11-MAY-1995 16:31:33.69
To:	ptoss1::jacobr
CC:	
Subj:	post this you good fer nothing scum



Title: at least Jake sometimes plays fair

    
The only morons are those that choose to stay in Pittsburgh :)

po' po' Jake, his Bucs suck, his Steeleres choked and it looks like 
the Pens are about to pull a disappearing job against those oh soooo
mighty Capitals once again. Yup I can see how frustraded and annoyed he
must be.

While I'm at it did the Clevescum twins even show up during the recent
basketball playoffs? I hardly think so; ah the double indignity of
losing once again in the first round and this year to the Knicks.
Toss in the Celtics losing and the Bruins in dire trouble and ::sports
probably has a funereal air to it; how delightful.
Life has been good.

GO KNICKS! GO RANGERS!

The Crazy Met

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47.1398MKOTS3::LONGLife is better left to chance.Thu May 11 1995 21:207
    re .1397
    
    Did anyone else happen to notice that TC* "inadvertently" forgot
    to mention HIS Jets?
    
    
    billl
47.1399Swan-song...PCBUOA::LEFEBVREA Repo Man is always intenseMon May 15 1995 13:552
    
    
47.1400...SNARFPCBUOA::LEFEBVREA Repo Man is always intenseMon May 15 1995 13:552
    
    
47.1401peeee-eweMKOTS3::LONGLife is better left to chance.Tue May 23 1995 15:4616
    JaKe, I got a serious dilemma.  My niece gradiated from college this
    past weekend.  She graduated from Widner University in Philthydelphia.
    We drove down there Friday after work and spent the weekend.  
    
    Here's the problem...
    
    After spending 36 hours there all of our clothes have taken on a
    terrible odor.  Washing them doesn't seem to help.  And to make matters
    worse, we stopped in New Yuck City to visit the Statue of Liberty.
    This might have been the proverbial "straw".
    
    My fear is that burning them is the only answer.  But then what 
    will happen to our clear New Hampshire air if I do that?
    
    
    billl
47.1402WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_MNY YANKEES 1995 WORLD CHAMPS!!!!!Tue May 23 1995 15:484
    
    
        Don't start a fire up here in NH! With all the Cow Sh!t up here
    there might be an explosion!
47.1403ONOFRE::MAY_BRMich fightsong=1bourbon,1scotch &amp;1beerTue May 23 1995 16:2111
    
    billllll,
    
    Let me hep you out.  Since the clothes got stunk up in Philthy, that is
    where they should be burned.  Not many people are aware of this, but
    the police of Philthy do provide this servic to out of town guests. 
    They simply take the clothes to buildings that are operated by groups
    that they don't like, ans set the clothes on fire on the roof of said
    buildings.  It gets rid of the clothes and the undesirables.
    
    brews
47.1404MKOTS3::LONGLife is better left to chance.Tue May 23 1995 16:407
    This would mean mailing them there, otherwise I'd be stuck in 
    an endless loop of continually needing to return with my stanky
    duds.  Isn't there a federal law against shipping toxic material
    via the U.S. Mail?
    
    
    billl
47.1405SALEM::DODAChairman of the BoredTue May 23 1995 19:072
Send em to Springsteen, he'll write a tune in your honor for his 
next release. "Sheets of Philadelphia"....
47.1406PTOSS1::JACOBRJust do me!!Tue May 23 1995 23:2318
    billl,
    
    Ya gots to dispose of them clothes by submerging them in a bath of
    sulphuric acid until they are disolved.  Plus, if ya spent more than
    3 hours in contact wif the air of Philthydelfia, ya gots to do one of
    two things,
    
    1).. Peel the top two layers of your skin off and flush them down the
    toilet, or
    
    2).. Submerge yerself in a sulphuric acid bath for 45 seconds.  This
    will kill any remnants of the Philthydelfia stench, and keep you from
    looking favorably on teams like the Phlyers, Phillies, and Eagles.
    
    Schnorttt Schittt Schleppps
    
    JaKe
    
47.1407never knew it was going to be tis complicatedMKOTS3::LONGLife is better left to chance.Tue May 23 1995 23:448
    since I was there for 36 hours, looks like I'll have to try option 2.
    
    Since I drove the "Luv machine" down there, is there anything special
    that is needed for it?  (other than replacing the tires, which I did
    today.)
    
    
    billl
47.1408PTOSS1::JACOBRJust do me!!Tue May 23 1995 23:5821
    
    >>Since I drove the "Luv machine" down there, is there anything special
    >>that is needed for it?  (other than replacing the tires, which I did
    >>today.)
    
    
    Oh sh_t, you took the "Luv machine" down there??
    
    Gawd, whatever you do, don't get nekkind in there for at least 3
    months.  The interior can be saved, cause most of the time it was
    closed up right(please tell me you didn't leave the windows down).
    
    What ya gots to do is heat the interior up to over 150 degrees for over
    an hour, which ya cain do by letting yer teenager(s) use it on a hot
    date.  (8^)*  Then, just hose it down with about 150 gallons of lysol
    and ya might be able to live with it.
    
    Schnorttt Schittt Schleppps
    
    JaKe
    
47.1409SALEM::DODAChairman of the BoredWed May 24 1995 13:095
Wait, you mean you drove in and made it out alive?

Got a deathwish or sumpthin?

daryll
47.1410But I always did like Richie AshburnAKOCOA::BREENIndians rule,sox sip; Phillip is sixWed May 24 1995 14:3911
    Coming north from DC on 95 you have to leave 95 to get to the Jersey
    turnpike which is the best way north to civilization.  I knew that but
    forgot and decided to just continue on 95 as the map showed it coming
    back to NewYork and points north.
    
    Bad decision.  Coming south there's signs saying 95 to Philadelphia and
    a disclaimer but north it's not quite so clear.  It's like they want to
    suck you in Stephen King style.
    
    I just got rid of the car Billl, it was never the same; kept the wife
    and kid.  Now I know what that musty smell on some of the clothes is.
47.1411MKOTS3::LONGLife is better left to chance.Wed May 24 1995 15:087
    I used the tried and true "Boston Driving Method", never make eye 
    contact and assume you have the right of way.  Driving for a year
    in Boston helped along with driving a full-size van.  Remember
    drivers in New York and Boston respect size.
    
    
    billl
47.1412Philthy > ClevescumPEAKS::WOESTEHOFFWed May 24 1995 15:545
  Jake, it sounds like ya need to take some drastic steps with yer clothes
  and yer car ifn ya go to Philthy. But whatda you do if ya make a mistake
  and take the wrong turn and end up in Clevescum ?

	Keith
47.1413MKOTS3::LONGLife is better left to chance.Wed May 24 1995 16:035
    If you make that kind of 'mistake' you deserve all the suffering
    and pain you will endure.
    
    
    billl
47.1414DZIGN::ROBICHAUDFunny BoneWed May 24 1995 16:363
47.1415MKOTS3::LONGLife is better left to chance.Wed May 24 1995 17:234
    ...does that make it alot like rugby?
    
    
    billl
47.1416(8^)*PTOSS1::JACOBRJust do me!!Wed May 24 1995 21:2917
 >>                   <<< Note 47.1412 by PEAKS::WOESTEHOFF >>>
 >>                           -< Philthy > Clevescum >-

 >> Jake, it sounds like ya need to take some drastic steps with yer clothes
 >> and yer car ifn ya go to Philthy. But whatda you do if ya make a mistake
 >> and take the wrong turn and end up in Clevescum ?

 >>	Keith

    Suicide could be the only answer.  Remember that Jim Jones debacle many
    many years ago, with the poisin Kool-Aid???  The REAL reason they all
    drank that is because they were going to have to live in Clevescum and
    that was their only choice.
    
    JaKe
    
    
47.1417Inquiring MindsODIXIE::ZOGRANLove the poppies in the medianThu May 25 1995 12:4812
    JaKe,
    
    Is it possible that the Cleveland Brwons will become the LA
    Brown(outs)?  Read in the papers that Modell is upset that he can't get
    upgrades for Cleveland Stadium, and may consider moving the Browns. 
    
    Also, Modell stated, in response to the owners endorsement of a stadium
    deal for Al (just movin' on up) Davis, "Hey, I'm still trying to get indoor
    plumbing!".  If this is the case, does the Cleveland Stadium really
    have outhouses?
    
    UMDan 
47.1418ROCK::GRONOWSKIThe dream is always the same...Thu May 25 1995 14:416
47.1419PTOSS1::JACOBRJust do me!!Thu May 25 1995 16:2517
    
    >>Is it possible that the Cleveland Brwons will become the LA
    >>Brown(outs)?  
    
    Not if LA's lucky.
    
    >>Also, Modell stated, in response to the owners endorsement of a stadium
    >>deal for Al (just movin' on up) Davis, "Hey, I'm still trying to get indoor
    >>plumbing!".  If this is the case, does the Cleveland Stadium really
    >>have outhouses?
    
    Clevescum Stadium IS one big outhouse!!
    
    
    JaKe
    
    
47.1420PEAKS::WOESTEHOFFThu May 25 1995 19:5714
  Dear Jake,

    It looks like the 'Spots are gonna move to the City of Angels
  if Art Modell can acquire the proper federal permits to transfer 
  toxic waste across the country. Does this mean we gotta quit takin
  pot shots at Hal n Groaner if they move ?

    If they move to La La land, who's gonna be their fans and defenders
  in this notes file ? Kato Kaelin ? Michael Jackson ? Judge Ito ?
  I gotta get prepared for a new round of mud slingin. But unlike
  the Mistake by the Lake, there are 1 or 2 people in El Lay that I like.
  Clint Eastwood comes to mind. Can't think of any others right now.

	Keith
47.1421give me time...I'll think of more...TNPUBS::ALVEYMy head won't leave my head aloneFri May 26 1995 13:197
    It'll never happen, Keef.
    As for people in LA worth caring about:
    
    um...
    Ellen Barkin...
    Beck...
    
47.1422PTOSS1::JACOBRCertified LooneyFri May 26 1995 15:1333
>>                    <<< Note 47.1420 by PEAKS::WOESTEHOFF >>>

>>  Dear Jake,

    Sssshhh, people will get suspicious.
    
    
>>    It looks like the 'Spots are gonna move to the City of Angels
>>  if Art Modell can acquire the proper federal permits to transfer 
>>  toxic waste across the country. Does this mean we gotta quit takin
>>  pot shots at Hal n Groaner if they move ?

    Nah, HAL and Groaner will still be their old moronic selves, with HAL
    proclaiming that by virtue of the number of coaches or weitght machines
    or moldy jockstraps they own, his favorite team will win it all.  As
    for Groaner, well, his record speaks fer itself.  the content of his
    notes has more garbage than New Jersey, and stinks just as bad.  When
    he leaves the infantile "Has XXX ever won XXX championship" behind is
    when we'll know that his IQ has eclipsed his shoe size.
    
>>    If they move to La La land, who's gonna be their fans and defenders
>>  in this notes file ? Kato Kaelin ? Michael Jackson ? Judge Ito ?
>>  I gotta get prepared for a new round of mud slingin. But unlike
>>  the Mistake by the Lake, there are 1 or 2 people in El Lay that I like.
>>  Clint Eastwood comes to mind. Can't think of any others right now.

    Fans and defenders in here??? I dunno, but nobody in their right mind.
    
    BTW, I did meet someone I liked that was from Clevescum, once.  But
    that was only because ONE of her talents was she could suck a golf ball
    thru a 4 foot section of garden hose, if ya get my drift.  
    
    JaKe
47.1423burning issueHBAHBA::HAASCo-Captor of the Wind DemonTue Jun 06 1995 17:1712
JaKe,

From USA Today:

	"FOOTBALL: Pittsburgh Steelers fans no longer will be allowed
	to smoke in the stands or restrooms at Three Rivers Stadium.
	A ban goes into effect for the 1995-96 season."

Does this mean that the players on the field can still smoke? Can
everyone else go out onto the field to smoke?

TTom
47.1424PTOSS1::JACOBRCertifiably InsaneTue Jun 06 1995 18:139
    It means that the only place peoples cain smoke is on the ramps and the
    concourses.
    
    Pretty mean, if someone's leg just happens to catch fire, they better
    not emit any smoke, cause if they do, they get put out--of the stadium.
                                                            
    
    JaKe
    
47.1425CAMONE::WAYUSS Herring, SS-283, In MemoriamTue Jun 06 1995 18:5829
|
|    It means that the only place peoples cain smoke is on the ramps and the
|    concourses.
|    
|    Pretty mean, if someone's leg just happens to catch fire, they better
|    not emit any smoke, cause if they do, they get put out--of the stadium.
|                                                            
    
I think discriminates against people who spontaneously combust.

I mean, imagine this:

	You're a spontaneous combuster (through NO fault of yours -- it's
	a "challenge", just like being blind or deaf) and your're watching
	the game.

	All of a sudden, your chest starts to sizzle and you're starting
	to ignite, emitting quite a cloud of smoke.

	Nexted thing you know, some usher is going to toss you out of the
	stadium.


If I was a spontaneous combuster, I'd sue!



'Saw    

47.1426EDWIN::WAUGAMANTue Jun 06 1995 19:037
    Fear not though, while smoking emissions have been banned in 3RS, 
    emissions of batteries and other projectiles are not covered in 
    the ordinance, per city tradition...
    
    glenn
    
47.1427sue nowHBAHBA::HAASCo-Captor of the Wind DemonTue Jun 06 1995 19:047
I think we outta sue for the right to be spontaneous combuster.

Don't wait until you blow up, sue now and avoid the rush!

Of course, all this talk reminds me of Roger Corman movies...

TTom
47.1428PROVEN FACT: IQ (smokers) << IQ (non-smokers)ROCK::GRONOWSKIThe dream is always the same...Tue Jun 06 1995 19:092
47.1429HELIX::MAIEWSKITue Jun 06 1995 19:155
  Given the choice, I'd rather see no drinking than no smoking. Both smell bad
but at least smokers don't spend hours on end yelling obscenities, throwing
food, starting fights, and generally acting obnoxious. 

  George
47.1430ROCK::HUBERFrom Seneca to Cuyahoga FallsTue Jun 06 1995 19:205
    
    I'd rather have both, but given a choice of one or the other, I'd
    _far_ prefer no smoking.
    
    Joe
47.1431HELIX::MAIEWSKITue Jun 06 1995 19:244
  By the way, my girlfriend Patty quit smoking. It's been 3 weeks to the day.
She had been smoking 2 packs a day for the last 34 years 

  George 
47.1432I think banning smoking at an outdoor stadium is pushing itMR1PST::THEKGB::MBROOKSTue Jun 06 1995 19:279
    Tough Choice, Drinking, which goes hand and hand with the rowdiness,
    rudeness etc at football game's or smoking....  Well if you don't
    factor in that a person smoking only is less likely to pick a fight
    with you because of the shoes your wearing then I'd prefer the smoking
    ban :-), 2nd hand smoke has that long slow way of killing you, where
    as some idiot with a gun and a bottle can make things happen a little
    quicker :-)
    
    								mab
47.1433HELIX::MAIEWSKITue Jun 06 1995 19:3420
  I don't think that anyone has ever show any evidence that being next to a
smoker out doors for 3 hours will have any adverse effect on your health at
all. 

  Most of the studies I've heard about involve the danger to children of
mothers who smoke, people who work together 8 hours a day for years at a time
in a small room with poor ventilation, etc. 

  I can't count the number of people I meet who interpret that data as meaning
that if you can smell the smoke for any short period of time, it's a danger to
your health but I've never seen any evidence to back that up. 

  For short term exposure of a few hours a few times a year, large groups of 20
something drunk men acting as a mob are far more dangerous to the public than
exposure to outdoor cigarette smoke. 

  Just ask yourself, if you are watching a western, is the lynch mob more likely
to emerge from a bar or from a tobacco shop?

  George 
47.1434ROCK::GRONOWSKIThe dream is always the same...Tue Jun 06 1995 19:4610
47.1435PTOSS1::JACOBRCertifiably InsaneTue Jun 06 1995 19:4712
    Personally, I don't give a hoot whether people smoke around me or not. 
    It'll be 16 years since I had a legal cigarette on July 1st, and I wqas
    a 2-1/2 to 4 pack a day cancer stick fiend.
    
    What I do object to is when Clevescum fans attend games at Three Rivers
    Stadium, they act just like they do at Clevescum Municipal Stadium in
    the Pig..er..Dawg(sh_t) pound and masturbate all game long.
    
    When's the legislation to counteract that???
    
    JaKe
    
47.1436ROCK::GRONOWSKIThe dream is always the same...Tue Jun 06 1995 19:483
47.1437IMBETR::DUPREZTue Jun 06 1995 19:515
>  Just ask yourself, if you are watching a western, is the lynch mob more >  > 
>  likely
>  to emerge from a bar or from a tobacco shop?

Be careful, George - those pipe smokers tend to stick together!
47.1438PTOSS1::JACOBRCertifiably InsaneTue Jun 06 1995 19:5337
    
  >>  I don't think that anyone has ever show any evidence that being next to
  >>  a smoker out doors for 3 hours will not have any adverse effect on your
  >>  health at all.
    
    But, where did the EPA come up with their number that "5000 people a
    year die from second hand smoke"???  they extrapolated" it, that's
    where.  They made it up is more like it.  there's no way to veri8fy if
    that number is anywhere even close, let alone accurate.
    
    >>Other than the fact that its irritating, I don't want to have smoke 
    >>blown in my face for an entire ball game.  If you can't respect this,
    >>its probably because you believe people should be able to throw their
    >>cigarette butts out of their window.

    that's one of my pet peeves.  People get all bent out of shape if
    someone in another car throws an empty drink container, or
    MacHeartDisease Horseburger wrapper out the window, then they turn
    around and throw a cigarette butt out the window.  Same thing,
    littereing the roadside.  I was caught in traffic lasted night behind a
    woman driver(a story in itself) and she proceeded to finish off one
    pack of cigarettes, crumple up the old pack, and deposited it in the
    center lane of the interstate where we was parked, then when she opened
    a new pack, all the wrappings she removed ended up on the road, too,
    plus three cigarette butts got put on the road in the course of 20
    minutes.  I nailed the horn and let her know she was a moron for doing
    all of this and she said some things back to me that I cain't put in
    here, in addition to letting me know, thru handsigns, that I was
    number 1.
    
    Nothing bugs me more than assholes who throw garbage out of their cars.
    
    JMHO
    
    JaKe
    
    
47.1439ROCK::GRONOWSKIThe dream is always the same...Tue Jun 06 1995 20:205
47.1440CAMONE::WAYUSS Herring, SS-283, In MemoriamWed Jun 07 1995 12:2318
Smoking's a bitch.

My mom smoked 3 packs a day for 25 years, and quit cold 25 years ago.

She still developed lung problems from it.  She's got COPD (Chronic Obstructive
Pulmonary Disease) and she's paying the price now.

I've been behaving myself having seen that.  About once a year I have
a cigar and that's it.


I get annoyed with folks who throw garbage out of their cars, but I'm
more annoyed at people who get in the right hand lane at a traffic light to
go straight, and then won't pull up far enough so you can squeeze by and
make the right turn.


'Saw
47.1441ROCK::GRONOWSKIThe dream is always the same...Wed Jun 07 1995 12:4912
47.1442RE: .1441, .1440IMBETR::DUPREZWed Jun 07 1995 13:138
Every morning I encounter a combination of these two situations.  The turn
for NQO (when you're coming from the west) is at a traffic light, just before
the road is reduced by one lane.  I want to do right on red, but I can't
because there's almost always some jerk who has gotten in the lane to get
past 10 cars to go straight.  Probably the same guy trying to pass
Gronowski.  It's not illegal but it drives me nuts...

47.1443ODIXIE::ZOGRANWatch out, kids are out of school!Wed Jun 07 1995 13:218
    Atlanta FUlton County stadium went smokeless 2 years ago, and it's
    great.  As a former smoker I like not having to smell others smoke
    (esp. cigar).
    
    Anyone who litters ought to be made to pick up trash along the highways
    naked.
    
    UMDan
47.1444HELIX::MAIEWSKIWed Jun 07 1995 13:2813
RE   <<< Note 47.1443 by ODIXIE::ZOGRAN "Watch out, kids are out of school!" >>>

>As a former smoker I like not having to smell others smoke
>    (esp. cigar).
    
  As a former smoker did you make every effort to make sure people didn't have
to smell your smoke? 

  I'm sure your not one of these but I really detest people who thought nothing
of blowing smoke in other people's air back when they were smoking and complain
about other people's smoke now that they've quit. 

  George
47.1445CAMONE::WAYUSS Herring, SS-283, In MemoriamWed Jun 07 1995 13:3132
>It's not illegal but it drives me nuts...

In CT it is.

Of course, it's all predicated on the person getting caught, but if you're
in a right turn only lane and you scoot past the line of cars in the left
lane to get ahead of them, it's passing on the right, and you're nabbed with
a fine.


On the other hand, I might have misunderstood what you said.  If that
right lane is a combination straight/turn, then it is okay.


This morning I got behind this stupid girl and I needed like 6" more to
be able to make the turn.   She obviously wasn't paying attention, so I
gently tapped the horn for a quick little toot.  She looked, and I made
a motion "please move up a bit".   The bitch just sat there.

Having a 4wd pickup truck I just pulled to the side, got up onto the
curb a bit and when by her.


My only regret was that it was raining and her windows and mine weren't
open.  If they had been, I might have given into the temptation to yell
a choice 4 letter word at her.  Which one you ask?  Can't tell you, but 
if you know what a blUNT person I am, you can probably guess.....


'Saw


47.1446Something they still do in Georgia, I thinkEDWIN::WAUGAMANWed Jun 07 1995 13:399
    
>    Anyone who litters ought to be made to pick up trash along the highways
>    naked.
    
    Better nekked than dressed in stripes, dragging a heavy ball...
    
    
    glenn

47.1447HELIX::MAIEWSKIWed Jun 07 1995 13:4510
    
>    Anyone who litters ought to be made to pick up trash along the highways
>    naked.
    
  Now wait a minute, I can think of some individuals that I would NOT want
to see naked anywhere. In those cases I'd take the litter.

  George

47.1448ODIXIE::ZOGRANWatch out, kids are out of school!Wed Jun 07 1995 13:566
    re. .1444 - Yep, when I was smoking I probably didn't give a rats ass
    as to who I offended, if anybody.  So what?  I don't enjoy smelling it
    now, and will avail myself of establishments that have non-smoking
    areas or those that are smoke free.
    
    UMDan
47.1449some allowedHBAHBA::HAASCo-Captor of the Wind DemonWed Jun 07 1995 14:1110
I like the smell of cigars so they could smoke if'n I was running a
stadium. I've been told that reefer has a rather pleasant smoke - I knew
a guy who once had a college roommate that had a girlfriend who smoked -
so that'd be allowed too. Incense is fine but you'd have to buy it from
me. Add that to the don't bring no food and drink in here see clause.

I would also like to add my vote to we should be able to control who we
have to look at nekked. Them nekked, I mean. Or at least at night.

TTom
47.1450CAMONE::WAYUSS Herring, SS-283, In MemoriamWed Jun 07 1995 14:1915
Some cigars are okay.  Some aren't.  My uncle used to smoke the most hideous
things.

Of course, in a historical sense, cigars and baseball go together.  But also,
that was in a time period when men went to the ball park in suits and ties.

On occasion (for me once a year) there is nothing like a good cigar.

The first evening of our encampment when we're activated, a buddy of mine and
I have a ritual.  A nice scotch before evening chow (which the first night is
actually a really good meal), evening chow, and then a walk around the base
whilst smoking a nice cigar.   The conversation invariably turns to absent
comrades and things historical.

Of course, we ARE outside when having our cigars......
47.1451MSBCS::BRYDIEI need somebody to shove!Wed Jun 07 1995 14:308
    
        I generally think that people can do what they want as
       long as it harms no one else. If people are foolish enough
       to smoke then let 'em. But I just came into the building and
       there was a crowd of smokers just outside the door under the
       overhang because of the rain. I really don't appreciate having
       to walk through a toxic fog to get into the building and it was
       all I could do to hold my tongue.
47.1452CNTROL::CHILDSJJS the BucketsMasterWed Jun 07 1995 16:0311
    
     geez, youse guys usually only complain about us smokers (who you
     should appreciate as we lower your tax burden) once a year but I
     guess baseball is so boring you've got nothing better to do.......
    
     seeing you guys want to pet-peeve does anyone know why Home
     Improvement is still on the air? My kids turned it on last week
     and about the only thing I can say is I found a show that's worst
     than Friends..........
    
     mike
47.1453PEAKS::WOESTEHOFFWed Jun 07 1995 16:0911
  Folsom Field in Boulder went smokeless last year. All in all, I think it
  went over really well. I witnessed no conlicts between smokers and 
  non-smokers. On the outdoor patio and a few other places, people
  could light up. I quickly learned to avoid those areas because even though 
  it was outdoors, it was just like a number of pool rooms I used to patronize.

  In previous years at Folsom Field, I could ussually tolerate the cigs
  in the outdoor stadium but there were a few people puffin on cigars
  and myself and other people 4 or 5 rows away were ready to pass out.

	Keith
47.1454who says batteries have no use after their charge has been usedROCK::GRONOWSKIThe dream is always the same...Wed Jun 07 1995 16:375
47.1455IMBETR::DUPREZWed Jun 07 1995 16:442
Do you loosen the casings first?
47.1456(8^)*PTOSS1::JACOBRCertifiably InsaneWed Jun 07 1995 16:477
    
    I generally categorize obnoxious baseball players into the following bins:
    D, C, or AA.  Then I take the appropriate action.
    
    
    JaKe
    
47.1457ROCK::GRONOWSKIThe dream is always the same...Wed Jun 07 1995 16:474
47.1458ROCK::GRONOWSKIThe dream is always the same...Wed Jun 07 1995 16:483
47.1459RE: .1457IMBETR::DUPREZWed Jun 07 1995 17:462
Thanks for the tip!  I forgot about the 'prints...
47.1460OUTSRC::HEISERMaranatha!Wed Jun 07 1995 19:277
47.1461pro-choice?HBAHBA::HAASCo-Captor of the Wind DemonWed Jun 07 1995 19:4813
Dear JaKE,

Just fer purposes of discussion, let's say you're doing time in Alabama.
You got a choice: sit in your small, dank, urine soaked, coackroach
infested cell or go outside and work on your tan while pretending to do
road work.

Which would you pick?

Now in the case of Arizona, I think I'd just as soon as sit. A little
desert goes a long ways...

TTom
47.1462PTOSS1::JACOBRCertifiably InsaneWed Jun 07 1995 19:518
    
>>Which would you pick?
    
    Picking poseys and cutting grass along the road and pissing in the
    weeds, so it din't get on the floor of my cell.
    
    JaKe
    
47.1463ROCK::GRONOWSKIThe dream is always the same...Wed Jun 07 1995 19:534
47.1464JaKe == Fabio?IMBETR::DUPREZFri Jun 23 1995 16:2112
JaKe,

By going to a Yanni concert, you have proven that you are not Yanni.
But is it true that you are indeed Fabio?

Bill Breen,

What do you think is up with the Yanni/Fabio/JaKe troika?  Is it a plot
to spread mediocre music/calendars/notes worldwide?

Roland
47.1465PTOSS1::JACOBROfficial 'Yanni' Survivor!!!Fri Jun 23 1995 18:1021
    
>>JaKe,

>>By going to a Yanni concert, you have proven that you are not Yanni.
>>But is it true that you are indeed Fabio?

    Sheesh.  have you ever seen me???  here's what I'd have to do to
    make the switch from fabio to JaKe.  After whatever, I'd return to my
    dressing room, remove the long hair wig, remove the chest hair wig,
    glue on my short beard, glue on the fat stomach, glue on the thunder
    thighs, remove about 6" in height somehow, and age 15 years.
    
    No, I ain't fabio, and he ain't me.
    
>>What do you think is up with the Yanni/Fabio/JaKe troika?  Is it a plot
>>to spread mediocre music/calendars/notes worldwide?

    If you had a JaKe calendar, it'd be a W I D E calendar, and smell of
    beer.

    
47.1466At Thanksgiving, I count my blessings, and they are manyIMBETR::DUPREZFri Jun 23 1995 18:313
>>>Sheesh.  have you ever seen me???

No.  It's been a good life so far...  :-)
47.1467CAMONE::WAYUSS Bonefish, SS-223, In MemoriamMon Jun 26 1995 13:066
Jake DID look like Fabio at one get together we had though. 

And someone has pictures to prove it!


'Saw
47.1468I don't consider myself a conspiracy guy just a questionerAKOCOA::BREENMon Jun 26 1995 16:2512
    Roland,
    	There's nothing out there that I would cross the street for or pay
    two bits to see.  Just like we have the Sherlock Holmes bible
    containing 50 or so tales, there is a fixed number of rock and roll
    songs all put to disc between 1955-1960 and that's all there is.
    
    	And I totally believe that there was a "conspiracy" to ruin rock
    and roll and it worked in this country.  Except you can't call it a
    conspiracy since no objective, intelligent person could deny it.
    
    	Just picked up for 3.98 a summary of kennedy conspiracy theories. 
    I guess this note exhausted that subject years ago; nothing really new.
47.1469IMBETR::DUPREZMon Jun 26 1995 16:556
Don't dodge the question, Bill!

		Does JaKe == Fabio?

JaKe of course denies it.  Inquiring minds want to know...
47.1470MSBCS::BRYDIEI need somebody to shove!Mon Jun 26 1995 17:135
    
       Jake is *NOT* Fabio. Sure they both have the flowing mane of
      blond hair, the chiseled physiques, the scores of women admirers
      and the disarming foreign accents but beyond that they are nothing
      alike.
47.1471Finally! Thanks...IMBETR::DUPREZMon Jun 26 1995 17:182
I knew it to be true.  I once heard Fabio say "younzes"...
47.1472wCAMONE::WAYUSS Bonefish, SS-223, In MemoriamMon Jun 26 1995 17:357
Well, they kinda DO look alike.

If you've seen that commercial for "I Can't Believe It's Not Butter", that's
NOT Fabio on the TV, that's Jake.


'Sa
47.1473The Jake CalendarAKOCOA::BREENMon Jun 26 1995 18:0513
    I've seen Jake, I've seen a million Jakes.  I am aware that there's
    such a thing as a "Fabio" sort of a male 10 in woman's eyes.
    
    But Jake did have an interesting notion - a Jake calendar.  September
    pictures him clearing his own calandar of obligations for superbowl
    sunday and wondering who the Steelers might play.
    
    January had  him disinterestedly sipping a few beers watching the nfl
    beat up on some afl team he knew his steelers could beat if only
    Bradshaw were there.
    
    I'm seeing something thru the haze for July - beer, burnt burgers,
    screaming kids... 
47.1474CAMONE::WAYUSS Bonefish, SS-223, In MemoriamMon Jun 26 1995 18:1119
Surprisingly enough, we DID have a "Men of SPORTS" Calendar back in 1992 I
think.

It was pretty funny.  Someone (JD or Kev, cain't remember) took a bunch of
Chippendale pictures, and put them with the months for 1992.  Then added our
names -- 'Saw, JD, Kev, Hawk, /Don...lots of us.

It was pretty hysterical.  I probably still have one kicking around here
somewhere.  I think I was Mr. April.....


Jake was always going to be "in my stable" when I opened the Regular Guys Strip
Bar -- on the premise that MOST women don't want to see big-pec'ed, washboarded
ab guys, but rather "regular guys" with butts and stomachs and such.

If they weren't turned on physically, we figured they'd be turned on comically.


'Saw
47.1475been there...seen thatMKOTS3::tcc122.mko.dec.com::longSome gave all...Mon Jun 26 1995 19:277
	Billte, you were pretty close on the July pic...
	
	Actually you see JaKe standing over a fully engulfed 
	barbeque grill with a garden hose in hand.


	billl
47.1476PTOSS1::JACOBRWaiting fer the mailMon Jun 26 1995 22:3513
    
    >>	Billte, you were pretty close on the July pic...
	
    >>	Actually you see JaKe standing over a fully engulfed 
    >>	barbeque grill with a garden hose in hand.

    Now dammit, billl, you swore you'd never tell anyone about that. 
    Younzes have to admit, though, they were the best freakin' "steamed on
    the BBQ" burgers (and probably only) you ever had, weren't they???
    
    JaKe
    
    
47.1477CAMONE::WAYUSS Bonefish, SS-223, In MemoriamTue Jun 27 1995 12:311
Thank God it was a garden hose and not somethin' else!
47.1478Been there, done that (only worse)AKOCOA::BREENTue Jun 27 1995 13:361
    
47.1479IMBETR::DUPREZTue Jun 27 1995 13:436
    Younzes have to admit, though,
    ^^^^^^^

There it is - just like Fabio said it!

Sounds like "steamed on the BBQ" was a slight understatement...
47.1480PTOSS1::JACOBRMe freakin' throat's on fireTue Jun 27 1995 13:437
    'Saw, 
    
    I hadn't consumed enuf brewskis at that point to put out the flame-ups
    in a more "natural" way.
    
    JaKe
    
47.1481No CMH for Jake-ioCAMONE::WAYUSS Bonefish, SS-223, In MemoriamTue Jun 27 1995 13:4926
>    'Saw, 
>    
>    I hadn't consumed enuf brewskis at that point to put out the flame-ups
>    in a more "natural" way.
    

There was a guy in WWII (a little sh*t, kind of reminds me of Kev) who was 
a radio operator on a B-17.

Over Germany, they were hit by flak and the plane caught on fire.  This guy 
grabbed an extinguisher, put out as many flames as he could -- rumor had it
that he also did the "au natural garden hose deal" -- and then rendered first
aid to several other wounded crew members, moving them in certain instances to
safety.

For intrepidity and gallantry at risk of life, above and beyond the call of
duty, he was awarded our nation's highest commendation, the Medal of Honor.


(It's a true story, yunz can look it up)

I'll be HE didn't make an excuse about not having enough brewskis....8^)    



'Saw
47.1482IMBETR::DUPREZThu Jun 29 1995 13:0519
While browsing through the Rotisserie League book last night, I saw a
reference stating that John Kruk's nickname is "Jake".

So we know:		John Kruk == Jake

And in the last week
we've proven:		JaKe == Fabio

Now it's been a long time, but the transitive property tells me that this
means:

			John Kruk == Fabio

JaKe, could this be true?

Roland

P.S.  It also yields John Kruk == JaKe, but that has much less shock value...
47.1483SMART2::CHILDSWatch out Big Brother's watching!Thu Jun 29 1995 15:225
 Jake, I was just doing some surfing and I got to ask is there a luckier man
 alive than Tommy Lee???????

 mike
47.1484I'm Outta here fer good, bye younzesPTOSS1::JACOBRNOTFabio,&amp; I don't play him on TVThu Jun 29 1995 15:4936
I was going to enter this in the "hey, I'm leaving note", but this is anote
    that has been near and dear to my heart for some time now, SO:
    
    'Saw and billl have known about this for a week or so, but it's time to
let the rest of ya know.

In about a half an hour, I'm going to drive to our office and turn in my
resignation.  I'va accepted a position with a third party maintenance company
that services DEC, Sun, and HP equipment, and start in just over 2 weeks.  NO,
THIS IS NOT LIKE SANTASCAM '92, NOr is it any "innocent college prank.  Short
of DEC making me some kind of fantastic counter offer, I'm gone, and gone fer
good.

As soon as my mgmt hears the name of the company, I'll be axed for my badge,
car keys, and tool kit and be given a ride home, so I don't know if I'll get in
here one lasted time or not.

Thanks to alla younzes for the laughs, arguments, put-downs, and comraderie. 
I'm glad I got to meet those of you that I did meet.  Mrs. JaKe's brother lives
up in that neck of the woods, so, when we visit up that way, I'll try and let
someone know and maybe we cain get together again.

I've enjoyed SPROTS over the lasted 5-6 years, will miss SPROTS and the people
that make it what it is(not you Groaner  (8^)*  ).  the place I'm going isn't
hooked up to the internet, but when I break down and get a pc, I'll get access
there somehow.

GO STEELERS, PIRATES, PENS, PITT, PENN STATE, and any other team I like.  


THE BROWN(SPOT)S(TM) STILL SUCK AND ALWAYS FREAKIN' WILL!!!!!!!!!

Later, hopefully

JaKe

47.1485oh yeah, Go BucsHBAHBA::HAASimprobable causeThu Jun 29 1995 15:566
IOt is with sadness and no small trepidation that we accept your
resignation.

Sheesh! Bummed.

TTom
47.1486WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_Mthe Halfway House Ruth Built...Thu Jun 29 1995 16:019
    
    
        Well there goes all the Comic Relief.... :-(
    
    
        Good Luck Jake.
    
    
    Chap
47.1487CAMONE::WAYUSS Bonefish, SS-223, In MemoriamThu Jun 29 1995 16:086
Jake, I'll miss you bud.....

Get yer (rather ample) prop-butt on the internet soon....


'Saw
47.1488EDWIN::WAUGAMANThu Jun 29 1995 16:2311
    
    Hope that "third party" knows what they're getting into, bringing 
    in Dick Radatz and his quirky sense of humor... ;-)  Knock 'em dead, 
    JaKe.
    
    There goes the last first-hand source for Pittsburgh news and 
    views... ;-(
    
    
    glenn
    
47.1489Always told like it is, with humor.PEAKS::WOESTEHOFFThu Jun 29 1995 16:3011
  Us remaining Steeler fans are gonna have to turn it up a notch when doin 
  battle with Hal n Groaner.

  Jake, our man in the 'Burgh with be missed. 

  A couple a years ago, Jake sent me a poster of the "Great One". It's still
  hangin proudly in my office. 

  Jake, next time yer tippin a few arns, remember yer pals back here in Sprots.

	Keith  
47.1490PTOSS1::JACOBRNOTFabio,&amp; I don't play him on TVThu Jun 29 1995 16:3410
    thanks fer the well wishes, guys.
    
    And, fer old times sake, when I leave the office here today, I going
    
    
    
    DWARF TOSSING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    JaKe
    
47.1491OLD1S::CADZILLA2Willie the Wimp in a Cadillac CoffinThu Jun 29 1995 16:443
    
    
    Jake   good luck!!  and remember always keep your stick on the ice.
47.1492JaKe got a dwarf tossin job?HBAHBA::HAASimprobable causeThu Jun 29 1995 17:320
47.1493PTOSS1::JACOBRNOTFabio,&amp; I don't play him on TVThu Jun 29 1995 17:599
    The only drawback of the company I\'m going to is that they just opened
    up an office in Clevescum.
    
    the company, named CompuFix, has 16 employees here in Pittsburgh, one
    of whom is leaving to run the Clevescum office(I suspect once he gets a
    whiff of Clevescum he'll try and move back to Pittsburgh.
    
    JaKe
    
47.1494MSBCS::BRYDIEI need somebody to shove!Thu Jun 29 1995 18:042
    
       Good luck, Jake. 
47.1495IMBETR::DUPREZThu Jun 29 1995 18:086
Good luck, JaKe!

Not only will you be missed, but 'Saw will have to rename the note...

Roland
47.1496you might need oneHBAHBA::HAASimprobable causeThu Jun 29 1995 18:109
	I need a fix cause I'm going down
	Down to Clevescum that freakin town
	I need a fix cause I'm going down
	Mother JaKe Jacobs get the gun
	Mother JaKe Jacobs get the gun
	Happiness is a warm gun!

TTom
47.1497EDWIN::WAUGAMANThu Jun 29 1995 18:236
    
>  A couple a years ago, Jake sent me a poster of the "Great One". It's still
>  hangin proudly in my office. 
    
    As is my calender... thanks JaKe...
    
47.1498ROCK::HUBERFrom Seneca to Cuyahoga FallsThu Jun 29 1995 18:258
    
    Best of luck to you Jake.
    
    Hope you're lucky enough to get transferred to Cleveland; while
    I'm sure you'll never learn to like the Browns, perhaps the
    Indians & Cavs will grow on you.
    
    Joe
47.1499ODIXIE::ZOGRANReasonable summer ratesThu Jun 29 1995 18:254
    Good luck, Jake.  Guess Penn State got lucky and got the Terps off of
    their schedule. :-)
    
    UMDan
47.1500CAMONE::WAYUSS Bonefish, SS-223, In MemoriamThu Jun 29 1995 18:4314
I won't rename the note, other than perhaps to make it 


		The Memorial Just Ask Jake-io Note


I'll think on that over the weekend.


I mean, we have the Mike JN Junk Note, and Mike JN has been gone for a long
time.....


'Saw
47.1501PTOSS1::JACOBRShortimer ExtraOrdinaireThu Jun 29 1995 18:4729
    Well, have talked with my manager and I'm turning in my badge, car,
    toolbag and entry key to the building in about 5 minutes.  I have tom
    come in in 2 weeks for my exit interview, but I won't have any accounts
    on any systems after I get outta here today.
    
    Once again, thanks to all of ya fer the laughs and such thru the years. 
    I hope that your lives go in whichever direction is best fer yer
    perticualr situations, like mine seems to be going.
    
    I will miss SPROTS immensely, I wonder if there's a support group to
    help someone thru NOTES withdrawal.    Note-aholics anonymouse er
    something like that.
    
    Younzes take care
    
    I'll keep in touch with Sawmain and billl, and thru them the rest of
    younzes.
    
    And fer what it's worth, I sorta enjoyed the Yanni concert(musta been
    all the beer numbed my senses.
    
    FWIW II  George, I fudged the voting results.  The actual score was
    323,154,269 to 1 against ya, but I thought you'd take a bridge if you
    found out.
    
    Later(as he walks down the corridor towards that exit sign)
    
    JaKe
    
47.1502typicalHBAHBA::HAASimprobable causeThu Jun 29 1995 18:486
Just like Digital.

Make you come back to learn how to exit after you done been gone fer a
while.

TTom
47.1503HELIX::MAIEWSKIThu Jun 29 1995 18:523
  Good luck JaKe,

  George
47.1504CAMONE::WAYUSS Bonefish, SS-223, In MemoriamThu Jun 29 1995 19:1213
I'd tell 'em where to put that exit interview.

They don't listen to any of that crap anyway.

They say "Why are you leaving?"

You say  "Because this place sucks donkey wang"

They write "No reason given"



'Saw
47.1505re: .1496ROCK::GRONOWSKIThe dream is always the sameThu Jun 29 1995 19:223
47.1506OUTSRC::HEISERNational Atheists Day - April 1Thu Jun 29 1995 20:534
47.1507ROCK::GRONOWSKIThe dream is always the sameThu Jun 29 1995 20:545
47.1508MKOTS3::tcc122.mko.dec.com::longSome gave all...Thu Jun 29 1995 23:144
	So that means anything less would be a choke!


	billl
47.1509Pats will smoke'em count on it......you can make it now if you wantAD::HEATHTribe Rooools Sox Suck (again by the way)Fri Jun 30 1995 11:099
    
    
    Paul...
    
      Don't let that awesome (yes it is awesome) Indian team cloud you
    judgement on the 'spots.  Rison is great but you still have nobody
    to get him the ball.
    
    Jerry
47.1510ROCK::GRONOWSKIThe dream is always the sameFri Jun 30 1995 11:335
47.1511I'll be gettin'em backAD::HEATHTribe Rooools Sox Suck (again by the way)Fri Jun 30 1995 19:185
    
    
    
    
     your on
47.1512ROCK::GRONOWSKIThe dream is always the sameFri Jun 30 1995 22:556
47.1513GENRAL::WADEAh'm Yo Huckleberry...Wed Jul 05 1995 14:054
    
    	Damn.  Went on vacation and didn't get to say goodbye....
    
    Claybone