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46.1 | Hey Al, find a QB, will ya !!! | FDCV07::GARBARINO | | Mon Jan 11 1993 20:17 | 5 |
| I wonder if Al Davis' strong comments yesterday about Marcus Allen
had anything to do with Allen now being a free agent. He's shootin'
him in the back as he walks out the door.
I hope Allen has a great year next year.
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46.2 | 0-1 in the '60s, 1-0 in the '70s, 2-0 in the '80s, next up, the '90s | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Tue Feb 02 1993 12:33 | 12 |
| Well another SuperBowl blowout has come-and-gone, and as usual, the AFC
representative just withered away before our eyes. Does anybody else
out there think that there might be some corelation between the NFC
dominance thing (over the lasted 9 years) and the fact that in 6 of
those it's been either the Buffalo Broncos, or the Denver Broncos
representing the AFC ... :-}
I guess the AFC won't get another Lombardi 'til the Raidahs, Steelers,
or 'Phins get back there.....oh well!
Carloski ?
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46.3 | | QUASER::JACKSONTA | Quit dancin' on that table! | Tue Feb 02 1993 22:56 | 1 |
| You mean its going to be another 10-12 years?
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46.4 | "The RAIDERS WILL BE DANCIN SOON!!" | COMET::DAVIDSON | | Mon Feb 08 1993 02:47 | 10 |
|
The Raiders were the last AFC team to win the BIG ONE. Something
that the Donkeys or Bills will never acheive, and if the Donkeys or
Bills represent ( BOTH LOSERS) the AFC, the next team to win it will
be the last AFC team that won it!!!!!
Regards,
Magnum
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46.5 | Dreamin late nights again;^) | QUASER::JACKSONTA | Quit dancin' on that table! | Mon Feb 08 1993 12:23 | 9 |
| Double entry for the same far fetched note. Magnum, we have been
through this before. The faiders aren't even going to get there until
Al finds a QB and quits bringing in has beens (Montana excluded if he
does go to faids).
There are other teams out there. KC, Chargers & fish. AFC central
teams, na!
Tim
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46.6 | Raiders back to the S'Bowl in 1993! | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Mon Feb 15 1993 12:43 | 13 |
| Here's a look at the Raiders' 1993 Home/Away schedule (not including
their AFC West rivals...of course):
Home: NY Jets, Cleveland, Green Bay, Chicago.
Away: Cincinnati, Buffalo, Minnesota, Tampa Bay.
Not too tough (especially compared to lasted years schedule), but not
that easy either.... no dates for these games are available yet, but
I'll post 'em (if I'm still here :-) when they're available.
Carloskiwitz
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46.7 | | QUASER::JACKSONTA | Quit dancin' on that table! | Mon Feb 15 1993 16:59 | 11 |
| I'm assuming you mean back in '94? The '93 SB has already been
played;^)
Its a bold statement unless they get a QB!
That schedule (other than AFC west) does look somewhat simple going
by last year. Then again, losses to Clevland, minni, buff and chicago
are most likely. Of course 2 losses to denver, SD, and KC each would
mean a 6-10 record. Now this is not a prediction yet!
Tim
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46.8 | 93...94...whatever nexted year is... | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Mon Feb 15 1993 19:39 | 18 |
46.9 | | PFSVAX::JACOB | BreakinMyHeart,TearinItApartSo F U | Mon Feb 15 1993 19:41 | 12 |
|
>>Chiefs, and Chargers goes....well, don't hold your breath too long
>>because the faids had a bad year lasted year (when most other teams
>>have bad years they go 3-13, 4-12, etc.. but the faids go 7-9 :-)
I wonder, after the Faiders go 4-12 this year, whatcha'll callit,
Carlos, what, a "rebuilding year??"
Or sumthin like that, eh??
JaKe
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46.10 | | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Wed Feb 17 1993 14:39 | 11 |
| Yeah but.....this was their 'rebuilding year' and they went 7-9.
That was my point, when other teams have bad years (a.k.a. rebuilding
years, or whatever else you wanna call it) they go 4-12 (1-15 etc...)
but the faids, when they're experiencing bad times (rebuilding) go 7-9,
8-8, etc.....
Life is beeeeutiful peering through Silver & Black colored contact
lenses. :-)
Carloski
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46.11 | | PFSVAX::JACOB | Hope ya starve, Jesse!! | Wed Feb 17 1993 18:45 | 9 |
| SO, who they gonna "rebuild" into a decent QB????
Doesn't seem to me that they have a SB caliber QB there now.
COme to think of it, I don't know that either of the STEELER QB's are
SB caliber, either.
JaKe
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46.12 | Who's available anyhow???? | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Wed Feb 17 1993 20:20 | 17 |
46.13 | | PATE::MACNEAL | ruck `n' roll | Wed Feb 17 1993 20:35 | 6 |
46.14 | say it ain't so! | MKFSA::LONG | "just keep it between the lines" | Wed Feb 17 1993 21:25 | 7 |
| Now wait a doggone minute! There's no way us Steeler fans could stand
to see Brister in a Raider uniform....
NOT!
Bill
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46.15 | | PFSVAX::JACOB | Go ahead and starve, Jesse!! | Wed Feb 17 1993 22:46 | 13 |
| Perfect match, the Faids take Brister, give teh Steelers a coupon fer a
free fill-up fer the company car, and two packs of crackers at a
mini-mart, and head straight fer the 5-11 record wif Brister at the
helm.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
BTW, FWIW and all those letters, I wouldn't touch Majkowski wif a ten
foot pole if'n I was a GM in the NFL. The guy could probably get hurt
in a baby pool by getting hit wif the wake from a pudgy kid fallin' in.
JaKe
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46.16 | | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Thu Feb 18 1993 18:14 | 36 |
| I was able to extract a complete list of all the NFL free-agents
through the Inter-net, and to answer my own question, here's a list of
all the QB's that will be free-agents:
Mike Pagel - Rams
Scott Secules - Dolphins
Mike Buck & Bobby Hebert - Saints
Hoss & Simms - Giants
Chris Miller - Falcons
Jim Harbaugh - Bears
Mike Tomczak - Browns
Steve Beurlein - Cowboys
Erik Kramer & Chuck Long - Lions
Don Majikowski - Packers
Cody Carlson - Oilers
Mark Vlasic - Chiefs
David Archer & Jim McMahon - Eagles
Bubby Brister - Steelers
Bob Gagliano - Chargers
Steve Bono & Steve Young - 49'ers
Kelly Stouffer - Seahawks
Vinny Testaverde - Bucs
Quite a list huh ?? I'd love to see Hebert playing for the Faids!
I also think the Faids would be better off nexted year if they'd dump
Shredder and go after any of the following: Hoss, Simms, Chris Miller,
Majik, McMahon, Bono, Young, or Testaverde. Young won't be available,
and by the way Dan Reeves and Sam Wyche talk, neither will Simms or
Testaverde. I don't know why Montana isn't on this list, but I'm pretty
sure his contract is worded so that he can decide each year whether he
wants to play for the 49'ers or not. He'd be good for a year or two,
and maybe Marinovich could benefit from having Joe around....hasn't
hurt Young or Bono any!
Carloski
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46.17 | Raider Free-Agents | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Thu Feb 18 1993 18:19 | 30 |
| Also...here's a list of all the Raiders that are eligible for
free-agency:
NFL
EXP Pos. LA Raiders
12 Rb Marcus Allen-301yds, 4.5y/c, 2 TD...28rec, 277yds, 1 TD
5 WR Tim Brown-49 rec, 693yds, 7 TDs
6 LB Aundray Bruce-3.5 sacks
11 RB Eric Dickerson-729yds, 3.9y/c, 2 TD...14 rec, 85 yds, 1 TD
10 LB Riki Ellison-1 sack, 2 fum rec
8 T James Fitzpatrick
6 RB brent Fullwood
11 WR Willie Gaut-27 rec, 508yds, 4 TDs
14 DT Bob Golic
12 P Jeff Gossett-42.3 gross avg, 36.5 net avg.
6 WR Sam Graddy-10 rec, 205yds, 1 TD...17 yds per KR.
13 S ronnie Lott-1 int, 1 Fum rec
11 T/G Reggie McElroy
10 S Elvis Patterson
10 QB Jay Shroeder-48.6%, 5.83y/a, 11 TD, 11 Int fr 63.3 rate
7 FB Steve Smith-129 yds, 2.9y/c...28 rec, 217yds, 1 TD
11 T Steve Wright
HtH.....
Carloski
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46.18 | It's NEVER Bobby's fault... | SALEM::DODA | Bend over America | Fri Feb 19 1993 12:44 | 10 |
| Re: Herbert with the Raids
I can see it now. Good ole Bobby whinin everytime he'd manage to
get the ball near a receiver and he didn't catch it and then walking
off the field after yet another INT with that "gee, those things
happen look" on his ugly puss.
A great whining tandem in Herbert and Dickerson.
daryll
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46.19 | | QUASER::JACKSONTA | Quit dancin' on that table! | Fri Feb 19 1993 15:44 | 10 |
| Wait a minute, Carlos, I thought you said something to the effect
that Todd was the second coming of the snake? Give hime 2 years and
all that BS? The faids have been re-building for 8 years^)
The donks would like to have Wright and Golic if they went to a 4-3.
Go for Testy , Hoss or Majik, sure losses for the faids!
Tim
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46.20 | | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | Yankees return to the Promised Land | Mon Feb 22 1993 11:57 | 3 |
|
Todd Sips!!!
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46.21 | HTH Carloskiwitz | QUASER::HUNTER | Isn't That Right, Al | Mon Feb 22 1993 20:53 | 4 |
|
I'll second, third, and fourth that one, Chappy...
BG
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46.22 | full circle? | CSC32::J_HENSON | Faster than a speeding ticket | Thu Feb 25 1993 20:17 | 4 |
| I think that they ought to sign Beuerlein, and give him big bucks to
boot. How much you wanna bet this'll never happen?
Jerry
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46.23 | | QUASER::JACKSONTA | Quit dancin' on that table! | Thu Feb 25 1993 21:17 | 6 |
| Beurline already was a faider and sucked, what makes you think that
he wouldn't suck a second time?
Beurline isn't as good as some think IMO.
Tim
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46.24 | | QUASER::HUNTER | Isn't That Right, Al | Thu Feb 25 1993 22:06 | 5 |
| I don't think so Tim... Beurline is a good QB. Uncle Al blew it
when he pined him and eventually traded him away. Beurline won't
go back to Al.
BG
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46.25 | | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Fri Feb 26 1993 19:10 | 20 |
46.26 | Transitional-players.... | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Tue Mar 02 1993 13:21 | 7 |
| Oh yeah....BTW, lasted week the faids named T. Brown & T. McDaniel as
transition players...which just means that they (the faider org.) have
the right to match any offers made to either of these two knuckle
heads.
Carloski
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46.27 | | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Wed Mar 03 1993 17:31 | 7 |
| In today's faider news...the faids named Ray Hamilton to be the Defensive
line coach.
Don't ask me who he is though.......
Carloski
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46.28 | Sugar Bear was a damn good one... | NAC::G_WAUGAMAN | | Wed Mar 03 1993 17:35 | 11 |
|
> In today's faider news...the faids named Ray Hamilton to be the Defensive
> line coach.
>
> Don't ask me who he is though.......
Boyhood idol of mine while growing up in Norman, OK, and later with the
Patriots. Geez, you Raider fans live in your own little world, huh? ;-)
glenn
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46.29 | | PATE::MACNEAL | ruck `n' roll | Wed Mar 03 1993 17:36 | 2 |
| I'm surprised the Pats let him get away after they coaxed him out of
retirement to help fill seats during the strike.
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46.30 | Guy from a winning tradition | TNPUBS::MCCULLOUGH | Melanie has a tooth!!! | Wed Mar 03 1993 17:39 | 7 |
| Ray "Sugarbear" Hamilton. Former DL (70s, 80's) and DL coach for the Patriots.
Pretty solid DL, who has the claim to fame of a key and controversial roughing
the passer call against the Raiders, in the playoffs of 19(mumble-mumble).
Every Patriot fan alive will tell you it was a bum call.
=Bob
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46.31 | Memories | CTHQ::LEARY | US:WorldCop,WillPuffChestForMoney | Wed Mar 03 1993 18:19 | 9 |
| Dang right it was a bum call. Cost the Patsies the game. Roughing the
passer BS agin Sugar Bear that put the ball on the Pats 1 fer the
Raiders. Twas in 1976, the first Raider SupahBowl.
Y'all oughta say a rosary every night for Ben Dreith who done reffed
datt game, made the call that catapulted the Raiders to the title.
8^)
MikeL
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46.32 | Is Norman, OK, near Muscokie, OK? | MKFSA::LONG | You must follow where it goes. | Wed Mar 03 1993 18:20 | 5 |
| >> Boyhood idol of mine while growing up in Norman, OK,
Wow, Glenn, that expains alot.
Billl
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46.33 | | CAMONE::WAY | Once more unto the breach | Wed Mar 03 1993 18:31 | 14 |
| | -< Is Norman, OK, near Muscokie, OK? >-
|
|>> Boyhood idol of mine while growing up in Norman, OK,
|
| Wow, Glenn, that expains alot.
In the immortal words of Ronnie Van Zant:
I want you to meet someone from Oklahoma. Watch out,
I'm gonna sick a ol' Okie on ya...
'Saw
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46.34 | A lighter shade of redneck... | NAC::G_WAUGAMAN | | Wed Mar 03 1993 18:42 | 9 |
|
> -< Is Norman, OK, near Muscokie, OK? >-
Naw, relative to Muskogee, Norman was definitely hippie/pinko/yuppie-
by-now country. Country jukebox strictly optional. Our old friend
Cowboy from Stillwater would've set you guys straight on this...
glenn
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46.35 | Close, no cigar!! | SPECXN::BROWN | Are you a Turtle? | Thu Mar 04 1993 22:33 | 9 |
|
re-1
Muskogee Oklahoma U.S.A.,
one town that helped make Merle famous.
Cadzilla
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46.36 | | NEST::PAPIA | | Fri Mar 05 1993 12:48 | 8 |
| Re. 31
The ball was not put on the 1 yd line, the Raiders drove
there, then Stabler ran it in. The ball was put around the
30 yd line.
Vinny
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46.37 | The way it was | CTHQ::LEARY | US:WorldCop,WillPuffChestForMoney | Fri Mar 05 1993 13:36 | 12 |
| Wrongo Vinny,
The ball was on the 30 yd line when Stabler threw to the end zone
looking for Branch. Pass incomplete, way outta bounds. Ben Dreith
throws the flag, roughing the passer against Sugar Bear. Ball placed
on 1 yd line. Oh, I'm wrong. Sugar Bear kicks ball, another flag
for unsportsmanlike, ball on 1/2 yd line. Stabler runs left, sneaks
into end zone. Raiders win. Oakland fans give refs standing O
as they run through tunnel.
HTH,
MikeL
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46.38 | | NEST::PAPIA | | Fri Mar 05 1993 15:04 | 5 |
|
Roughing the passer is only a 10 or 15 yd penalty, to put
the ball on the 1 it would have been pass interference, right?
Vinny
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46.39 | Free Agency | ROYALT::FORGET | LA Raiders #1 | Fri Mar 05 1993 15:59 | 8 |
|
Raiders signed Gerald Perry Offensive tackle to a 3 year deal.
He played the last two seasons with the LA Rams
Mike
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46.40 | | TULA::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Fri Mar 05 1993 17:39 | 14 |
| Thanks for the good news Mike, the signing of Perry should help out
quite a bit this year, as this was one of the biggest problem areas the
faids had lasted year. With Mosebar, Wiseniewski (sp), and now Perry on
the O-line, the faids should have one of the better O-lines around.
Now if they could only sign Tim Harris and/or Sam Mills to help out the
linebacking situation, and Montana, or Hebert,( or maybe even Majik,
Bono, or Testaverde ) to help the QB situation, and the faids are just
about a lock for nexted years championship....:-)
Carloski
PS - Thanks for the info on Sugah-bear...
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46.41 | | CTHQ::LEARY | US:WorldCop,WillPuffChestForMoney | Fri Mar 05 1993 19:57 | 11 |
| My mistake Vinny,
I don't exactly recall what yard line the raiders were on when Stabler
threw that pass and they called the penalty on Hamilton. Suffice it to
say it was a 15 yd penalty and an automatic first down. At least one if
not two "unsportsmanlikes" were called on the Pats after that. Bottom
line is that the dang ball ended up on the one or two yard line without
the benefit of an "red zone" drive by the Raiders. At least that is how
I remember it ( I think!)
MikeL
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46.42 | | QUASER::JACKSONTA | C'mon baby finish what you started! | Fri Mar 05 1993 20:54 | 8 |
| Ha, Gerlad Perry and Testaverde would be a great combo! Another
never to be QB would make sure the faids won't get it done on
offensive. The rest of the west would like it!
Perry should fit right in. Of course he's been in LA for 2 years.
Has he been beating up prostitutes out there like he did in Denver?
Tim
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46.43 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | Mike Monroe is as good as dead!!! | Mon Mar 08 1993 11:48 | 6 |
|
Big Game, if you're out there could please do us a favor and find out
Uncle Hootsie's feeling about Perry the Raider...If I'm not mistaken
wasn't he one of Hoot's favorite Broncos?????///
mike
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46.44 | | GENRAL::WADE | IWon'tForgetToPutRosesOnYourGrave | Mon Mar 08 1993 12:06 | 6 |
|
Exactly what I was thinking MikeyC. Big Game, ask him
what he thinks of the "Denver Death Grip" master joining
the faids....... :^)
Claybroon
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46.45 | | QUASER::JACKSONTA | Cmon baby,finish what you started | Mon Mar 08 1993 13:14 | 3 |
| re- last .2,
Funny! I forgot about that.
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46.46 | | AXIS::ROBICHAUD | NotEconomicallyViable | Mon Mar 08 1993 15:20 | 4 |
| Rams are claiming that the Raiders tampered with Officer Perry
prior to March 1st.
/Don
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46.47 | The "cooling off" period is unenforceable and dumb... | NAC::G_WAUGAMAN | | Mon Mar 08 1993 15:42 | 12 |
|
> Rams are claiming that the Raiders tampered with Officer Perry
> prior to March 1st.
'Course it was Upright Uncle Al who delayed the ratification of the
bargaining agreement in large part because of his objection to the
length of the signing period, so wouldn't you know that after they got
this rule straightened out and on the books he'd be the first to break
it...
glenn
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46.48 | next year will be intresting all around | RUNAWY::CBULLS::MBROOKS | | Mon Mar 08 1993 17:24 | 1 |
| Bye Bye Ronnie Lott....
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46.49 | MHO | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Mon Mar 08 1993 17:37 | 14 |
| As far as I'm concerned it's just more of the same old anti-Al
propaganda. The media justs eats that stuff up, but you gotta know that
if he was even half as crooked as they make him out to be, he'd have
been behind bars a long time ago. Just cause Uncle Al happens to know
what the heck is going on, and the Rams are in a little pain now that
they've realized what they just lost (so they cry foul play), is no
reason to paint that same old tired picture of Uncle Al as some sort of
Mafia-Crime Boss of the NFL. If Perry meant that much to the Rams they
shoulda protected him instead of whining about it now that he's gone.
HtH
Carlos
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46.50 | Later Holmes ! | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Tue Mar 09 1993 12:22 | 10 |
46.51 | | QUASER::JACKSONTA | Cmon baby,finish what you started | Tue Mar 09 1993 13:57 | 12 |
| Maybe Al should go out and find as many Heisman winners as
possible;^) That should get them a ring...
Now that Lott is gone, who will be the backbone of the defensive
backfield? I have seen games where Lott seemed like the only faider on
the field.
Where is Joj_*? I figured with this news, he would be in here...
Tim
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46.52 | | PATE::MACNEAL | ruck `n' roll | Tue Mar 09 1993 13:58 | 2 |
| Lott has been in the NFL for 12 years. How much could he possibly have
left?
|
46.53 | | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Tue Mar 09 1993 14:08 | 14 |
46.54 | | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | Donbo Danbo and ??? Wadebo??? | Tue Mar 09 1993 14:10 | 7 |
|
Re Backbone of the Backfield....
Try Eddie Anderson...
Chappy
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46.55 | | CTHQ::LEARY | US:WorldCop,WillPuffChestForMoney | Tue Mar 09 1993 14:12 | 4 |
| Now where have I read this before...
Lot(t) going to the modern day Sodom and Gomorrah(sp)
|
46.56 | | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Tue Mar 09 1993 14:18 | 10 |
46.57 | | LAGUNA::MAY_BR | First weekend of sunburn season | Tue Mar 09 1993 15:01 | 9 |
| > Well, I don't know, but two years ago when the faids picked him up
> people were saying 'he's been in the NFL for 10 years. How much could
> he possibly have left?'
I was one of those people questioning why the Raiders signed him to 2
years. I thought at the time that he had a year left, and that's all
the niners thought, which is why they would only give him one year.
brews
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46.58 | | PATE::MACNEAL | ruck `n' roll | Tue Mar 09 1993 15:09 | 4 |
| Jets reportedly signed Lott for 2 years.
If a 34 year old man is the backbone of your defensive backfield,
doesn't that tell you something about the rest of your backfield?
|
46.59 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | MARCHMadness, Fall ofthe UNC Empire | Tue Mar 09 1993 15:22 | 15 |
|
> If a 34 year old man is the backbone of your defensive backfield,
> doesn't that tell you something about the rest of your backfield?
I don't know Mac what does it tell you? I think it takes just a bit more
than athletic ability to be the backbone. Lott as a safety is like LT as
a LB, a 1/2 of either player is better than 75% of the rest of the league...
mike
ps. JoJ has left ::Sports because he doesn't work here and shouldn't be in
here. I believe he just got back from a week of skiing with Riggen. So maybe
Jeff can tell us how he feels....
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46.60 | Jets are making some moves | DEVOTN::CBULLS::MBROOKS | | Thu Mar 11 1993 15:40 | 4 |
| That one 34 year old man I wouldnt want tackling me :-)
I think he play 2 more years (and play good enough)
MaB
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46.61 | Hebert again.... | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Sat Mar 13 1993 11:54 | 7 |
| The faids will be entertaining QB, Bobby Hebert of the Saints nexted
Tuesday & Wednesday, Hebert is also trying to work out a deal with N.O.
to stay with the Saints...and his agent seems to think he's worth 3 to
4 million bucks per year....hmmmmm?
Carloski
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46.62 | | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Tue Mar 16 1993 15:56 | 9 |
| Not to sure, cause I missed the beggining, but I think I heard ESPN
reporting this morning that the faids would also be talking to
Hostetler sometime soon ???? IMHO, both Hebert and Hoss are better
than Shredder, but I think the faids would be alot better off going
after Joe...who's probably got another good year or two left in him,
and would also serve as the best possible example for TM to follow.
Carloski
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46.63 | | SPECXN::BROWN | Have Perturbations, Will Travel | Tue Mar 16 1993 17:29 | 0 |
46.64 | Stabler deep to ol Sticky hands Freddie B | SPECXN::BROWN | Have Perturbations, Will Travel | Tue Mar 16 1993 17:39 | 8 |
|
Jo Wyoming would not fit in with the Raiders. Al's teams have always
been long bombers. Jo could'nt live in LA after throwing all those dink passes
in the SF/Walsh type of short pass offense. Look at the Raider greats. Lamonica
Stabler,Plunkett, even though Stabler did have the long ball arm. All big play
long bomb QB's
Cadzilla
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46.65 | | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Tue Mar 16 1993 17:58 | 10 |
| Yeah but..that's why he'd fit in so good, TM's not exactly the long
ball type either......although both can get it there if'n they have to.
If TM is to be the Raiders future QB, then there is nobody better for
him to learn from than Joe (because of their similar playing styles)
and possibly nobody worse for him to learn from than Shredder (also
because of their playing styles...or lack there of).
Carloski
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46.66 | | QUASER::JACKSONTA | Cmon baby,finish what you started | Tue Mar 16 1993 21:08 | 11 |
| Hoss better than Shredhead? Not much of a comparison. They both are
average QB's IMO. Hoss chokes like Jay when preasured, or at least the
times I've seen him play. Hebert would be better, but then again, the
saints OL is better than the faids IMO, so who knows how he would do?
Uncle should just stay with TM! TM will be worthless if Al doesn't
go a full season with him. Montana would help the faids. Couldn't
hurt them, thats for sure! Now that Joe has rested his arm, he still
may have a long ball left.
Tim
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46.67 | | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Wed Mar 17 1993 12:56 | 8 |
| Raghib 'Rocket' Ismail has received permission from the Argonauts
to talk with Uncle Al and co. about possibly playing in the NFL.
Uncle Al should sign the Rocket and get Joe down there too IMHO.
Could you imagine Tim Brown on one side, with the Rocket and Willie
'butter fingers' Gault on the other, with Joe as the delivery boy?
Carloski
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46.68 | Don't forget Alexander Wright | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | Donbo Danbo and ??? Wadebo??? | Wed Mar 17 1993 14:19 | 3 |
|
TM Sips.....
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46.69 | | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Wed Mar 17 1993 14:51 | 11 |
46.70 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | MARCHMadness, Fall ofthe UNC Empire | Wed Mar 17 1993 16:51 | 11 |
|
You're dreaming Carlos. The Raiders may end up with the fastest receiving
corp. but that's about it. The Rocket doesn't know how to run a pattern
and his hands are suspect, how good could Wright be if the speed demon
himself JJ cut him loose and Gault's always been unrealiable so that
leaves Brown as the only real threat and he's hurt 1/2 the year...
mike
ps. Joe can't throw a bomb. All of his big plays wre due to Rice or Taylor
running 40+ yards with the ball
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46.71 | | PFSVAX::JACOB | You're IRISH??You have my sympathies!! | Wed Mar 17 1993 18:47 | 5 |
| Raiders :== Has Been Haven
JaKe
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46.72 | | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Wed Mar 17 1993 19:07 | 7 |
46.73 | | PATE::MACNEAL | ruck `n' roll | Wed Mar 17 1993 19:18 | 6 |
| I feel I must come to the defense of Jake after Caloski's vicious
attack.
Jake is certainly not a has been
You have to be something first to be a has been.
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46.74 | | PFSVAX::JACOB | You're IRISH??You have my sympathies!! | Wed Mar 17 1993 19:21 | 7 |
| Thanks a helluva lot, MAC!!
I too am/was something, my Dad always told me, but I think what he used
to tell me I was would get set hidden in here. (8^)*
JaKe
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46.75 | | PATE::MACNEAL | ruck `n' roll | Wed Mar 17 1993 19:24 | 1 |
| Always glad to help you out, Jake.
|
46.76 | say it ain't so | METSNY::francus | Mets in '93 | Wed Mar 17 1993 19:28 | 4 |
|
Are we seeing a kindler and gentler MtM??
The Crazy Met
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46.77 | | SALEM::DODA | Slicks plan:Blind Faith & Hallucination | Thu Mar 18 1993 12:37 | 5 |
| Mike,
Johnson let Wright go because of his work ethic. That and the
fact that he can't run a route or catch the ball. He sure is
quick tho....
|
46.78 | Hoss-man to the faids ??? | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Mon Mar 22 1993 12:48 | 10 |
| Anybody else heard the rumors that the faids are close to signing
Hostetler......?
Not to sure yet, but if they do sign him, I don't think he'll be the
answer to their prayers....although he cain't be any worse than
Shredder (can he ??).
Carlos - Who thinks they could have done better....but, could also
have done worse...
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46.79 | Go long! | CTHQ::LEARY | US:WorldCop,WillPuffChestForMoney | Mon Mar 22 1993 16:53 | 6 |
| Yo Carlos,
Three ND main wif Joe and Rocket wif Brown. Cain't go wrong. But
Childsey is right. The only pattern po' Rocket can run is da fly.
MikeL
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46.80 | Hoss is the Boss..... | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Wed Mar 24 1993 12:39 | 13 |
| It's official.....Hostetler will be the QB of the faids nexted year!
He signed a three year contract worth $8.(something or other) million
bucks. I just hope the faids change their style to match Hoss'
abilities instead of trying to make Hoss conform to their ways.
So far the faids have addressed two of their three biggest needs (IMHO)
thru the free-agency market; the QB position, and the offensive line.
Now Uncle Al, and Shell need to go out and get Sam Mills or Tim Harris,
to help out the linebacking situation.
Carloski
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46.81 | | CAMONE::WAY | Shore,Brimsek,Orr,Bourque | Wed Mar 24 1993 12:58 | 21 |
| > It's official.....Hostetler will be the QB of the faids nexted year!
Well, you got a QB, but you didn't get a leader...
> He signed a three year contract worth $8.(something or other) million
> bucks. I just hope the faids change their style to match Hoss'
> abilities instead of trying to make Hoss conform to their ways.
Well, they should flood half the field with their receivers, because
Hoss only looks at half the field before getting happy feet and taking
off. If they send a receiver to the half of the field he doesn't
look at, he'll be lonely all day 8^)
Good luck....
'Saw
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46.82 | TM Still Sips........ | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | Donbo Danbo and ??? Wadebo??? | Wed Mar 24 1993 14:41 | 6 |
|
Now that we got a starting QB. When will TM be waived? I can't
wait.
Chappy
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46.83 | If TM sips, than Shredder's a black-hole... | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Wed Mar 24 1993 15:51 | 13 |
46.84 | | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | Donbo Danbo and ??? Wadebo??? | Wed Mar 24 1993 18:06 | 12 |
|
DEAR CARLOSKIWITZHEAD
First of all Shredder is not my hero. :-)
Second of all TM will never, I repeat never be one of the
best QB's around. Sooner or later you'll see it, but he hasn't got the
Arm and he's got happy feet......
Chappy
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46.85 | | CAMONE::WAY | Shore,Brimsek,Orr,Bourque | Wed Mar 24 1993 18:31 | 4 |
| > but he hasn't got the
> Arm and he's got happy feet......
Sounds like Hostetler.....
|
46.86 | | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Wed Mar 24 1993 18:32 | 7 |
46.87 | Randall trade rejected...?? | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Thu Mar 25 1993 12:35 | 9 |
| Apparently the delay in signing Hoss was due to the Eagles' brass
contacting Unca Al about a possible trade for Randall....which is most
likely not gonna happen no more seeing as how they did go ahead and
sign Hoss.
Also, Unca Al will be talking to the Rocket's agent this week....
Carloski-head
|
46.88 | :-) | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | Donbo Danbo and ??? Wadebo??? | Thu Mar 25 1993 13:33 | 3 |
|
Carloskiwitzhead (tm)
|
46.89 | | QUASER::JACKSONTA | Cmon baby,finish what you started | Thu Mar 25 1993 19:56 | 1 |
| 8 mil for Hoss? Thanks for todays humor!
|
46.90 | One good joke deserves three others. | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Thu Mar 25 1993 20:12 | 12 |
46.91 | | QUASER::JACKSONTA | Cmon baby,finish what you started | Thu Mar 25 1993 20:18 | 1 |
| Hoss didn't win that game, Norwood did;^)
|
46.92 | ramblings.... | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Fri Mar 26 1993 19:57 | 12 |
| Should be kinda interesting to see how much the faids defense changes
this year. Not only did they get a new defensive line coach (Hamilton),
but they also got a new linebackers coach that's supposed to be a
pretty bright young guy, his name escapes me right now but I'll try to
put something in here about him later. Also, the faids are often
credited with being the old-timers of the league, but they've got some
good young talent that should be taking over soon. Between Chester
McGlokton, Nolan Harrison, Anthony Smith, and Willie Broughton the
faids could have one of the youngest defensive lines around.
And if you consider that if Stacy Toran, and Scott Davis were still
around. Plus it don't hurt at all that Howie's coming off a pro-bowl
season, and Townsend's still around.
|
46.95 | | QUASER::JACKSONTA | Cmon baby,finish what you started | Thu Apr 01 1993 14:39 | 1 |
| Thats a good one Caritos!
|
46.97 | bad April Fool's joke Carlos! | GENRAL::WADE | yippy-I-yo-mama! | Thu Apr 01 1993 15:31 | 1 |
|
|
46.98 | Free Agents Signed | ROYALT::FORGET | LA Raiders #1 | Thu Apr 08 1993 13:01 | 14 |
|
free agents signed by AL Davis
OT Gerry Perry
QB Vince Evans
QB Jeff Hoss (sp)
P Jeff Gossett
Mike
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46.99 | Hoss > Elway | CNTROL::CHILDS | U think u're something special? Think Again! | Thu Apr 08 1993 13:03 | 15 |
|
> free agents signed by AL Davis
> OT Gerry Perry
> QB Vince Evans
> QB Jeff Hoss (sp)
> P Jeff Gossett
I'll bet the rest of the West is shivering over these signings...
mike
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46.100 | .100 GOT IT!!!!!! | CSTEAM::FARLEY | Megabucks Winner Wannabee | Thu Apr 08 1993 19:50 | 7 |
|
Yabbut I got .100!
I remain,
making shivers at the prize!
Kev
|
46.101 | | PFSVAX::JACOB | Reality, 4 people who can't face drugs | Thu Apr 08 1993 20:07 | 15 |
|
>>Yabbut I got .100!
>>I remain,
>>making shivers at the prize!
>>Kev
That's nuthin. Why don't we see if we cain get this note up to .10000
by nexted Friday!!!!!
(8^)*
JaKe
|
46.102 | my leetle part | CSTEAM::FARLEY | Megabucks Winner Wannabee | Thu Apr 08 1993 20:19 | 9 |
|
Yabbut mebbe we cain try but firsted,
where's JD? He could make it A LOT easier on us, donchaknow!
I remain,
.9998 ta go
Kev
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46.103 | | PFSVAX::JACOB | Reality, 4 people who can't face drugs | Thu Apr 08 1993 20:23 | 11 |
|
>>I remain,
>>.9998 ta go
>>Kev
Wrongo Kevster, .9897 to go now.
JaKe
|
46.104 | | LAGUNA::MAY_BR | Free Jake's pea brain, er p_name | Thu Apr 08 1993 20:39 | 6 |
|
> ROYALT::FORGET "LA Raiders #1"
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
It's been so long, it ain't hard to forget
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46.105 | Your always good for a chuckle! | QUASER::JACKSONTA | Cmon baby,finish what you started | Fri Apr 09 1993 03:00 | 14 |
| Thanks for the laugh Mike C!!!!
Sheet, with Geratol Perry and his death grip, the faids will be
penalized so much, Hoss will have to throw the ball more than 10
yards.
And as to Hoss sceering the west, c'mon! I don't give a HOOT,
regardless of his ring! The faids will be #4 in front of the
seachickens this year. They still don't have LB's worth talking about.
Watch for wrong way Jay to be starter come mid season, if he is
still with them!
Tim
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46.106 | the "Immortal" Blubby Blowgan world's champ again | CNTROL::CHILDS | U think u're something special? Think Again! | Fri Apr 09 1993 12:06 | 4 |
|
you want a good laugh Tim, check out my last reply over in WWF::Wrestling...
;^)
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46.107 | < > | CSTEAM::FARLEY | Megabucks Winner Wannabee | Fri Apr 09 1993 13:02 | 27 |
|
Yabbut HEY! I'm in SALES! I ain't no stinkin engineer! I don't need
no stinkin 'rithmetic!
;^)
I remain,
creatively contemplating 2+2=?
Kev
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>>I remain,
>>.9998 ta go
>>Kev
Wrongo Kevster, .9897 to go now.
JaKe
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46.108 | | LAGUNA::MAY_BR | Free Jake's pea brain, er p_name | Fri Apr 09 1993 15:25 | 5 |
|
Kev, are you really in sales, or still one of those Competitive Hotline
sales wannabees? 8^)
brews
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46.109 | please don't banish me..... | CSTEAM::FARLEY | Megabucks Winner Wannabee | Fri Apr 09 1993 16:18 | 22 |
|
Brews,
Yabbut now ya did it! I am now forced to admit publically that I have
been living the lie of Tyhipocracy and have been yankin yer collective
chains. I am (borrow line from the end of Tootsie) NOT really in
sales, rather, I am part of (gasp & get ready to duck the tomatoes)
Marketing!!!!
Honest, really, we're part of marketing so I guess I'm a pseudo sales
wannabee?
I remain,
with haid down in 'barrassment and shame,
Kev
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46.110 | | LAGUNA::MAY_BR | Free Jake's pea brain, er p_name | Fri Apr 09 1993 18:34 | 5 |
|
I thought so. So self respecting sales-ster would ever ask Riggins for
help, and surely would never admit it.
brews
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46.111 | Dubs on #.1000 | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Fri Apr 09 1993 19:28 | 11 |
46.112 | | QUASER::JACKSONTA | Cmon baby,finish what you started | Fri Apr 09 1993 20:34 | 5 |
| I don't ever recall defending Perry. If I did, it must of went
something like, he only had 1 holding call this week, which is good
for him.
Now when it came to the HOOT & PARROT show, well enough said!
|
46.113 | | SALEM::DODA | Bill's Pork Parade Rolls on | Tue Apr 13 1993 15:16 | 7 |
| Well, the Aints have gone off and signed future HOF Wade Wilson
and declined to offer Herbert a contract, so the Raids are free to
whine and dine him...
They'd be better off starting Evans.
daryll
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46.114 | | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Tue Apr 13 1993 16:40 | 10 |
| That's zactly what I was thinking Daryll.....well kinda....I don't
think they'd be better off starting Evans. But I do think it would be
nice to have Hebert around....
I think the aints are gonna miss him this year...
I also think the Chiefs or the Cards would be better off going after
Hebert instead of Montana....
Carlitos
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46.115 | | QUASER::JACKSONTA | Cmon baby,finish what you started | Tue Apr 13 1993 22:51 | 2 |
| Starting Evans? I didn't know they let FB players use canes when
they are on the field;^))))))
|
46.116 | Finally a little bit of action! | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Wed Apr 14 1993 13:56 | 15 |
| Yabbut (sorry 'bout that Kev), didja see that grampa burning up the
field in the Raiders final game against the 'Skins! ...And besides,
you're in no position to talk, old Bucky's getting a little long in the
toof himself ('course he was proberly that way since he was two years
old, but that's besides the point).
Also, the Raiders traded a third rounder to the doinks for Gaston
Greene. I guess he became excess baggage after they signed Bernstine,
and DelPino? I like this trade though, maybe now they'll get rid of
Dickerson and just go with Greene and Bell. The Raiders also picked up
free-agent linebacker Joe Kelly. He was a former firsted round pick of
the Bengals in '86, and spent the lasted two years wif da Jets. He'll
proberly be used as a MLB'er for the Raiders.
Carlitos
|
46.117 | | QUASER::JACKSONTA | If you see Kay | Wed Apr 14 1993 17:08 | 12 |
| Carlitos, Evans was playing when I was in Jr. high school! or so it
seems. I'm 30.
Gaston may be better suited for the faids than the Broncos. A power
runner he isn't. He will fall over with just a nudge. If he has a
hole to run through, then he can be dangerous. Of course if he has
Bell as a lead blocker, who knows?
I think he will be a bust all together.
Tim
|
46.118 | | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Wed Apr 14 1993 17:29 | 15 |
46.119 | | CSOA1::BACH | They who know nothing, doubt nothing... | Wed Apr 14 1993 17:39 | 7 |
| Evans was back up to Bob Avallini for the Bears. I'm 30, and I believe
Bob was the bomber when I was in Jr. High too...
Chip_GSH_Bach
P.S. I was always a Vince Evans fan, if the Bears had a receiver back
in 'dem days Vince might have had a shot fer a ring...
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46.120 | | SALEM::DODA | Bill's Pork Parade Rolls on | Thu Apr 15 1993 14:05 | 3 |
| Psst, Green was traded to the Rams....
daryll
|
46.121 | | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Thu Apr 15 1993 14:19 | 4 |
| For what or who......?
Carlitos
|
46.122 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | Paying for decades of Demo.Congress | Thu Apr 15 1993 14:28 | 5 |
| > Psst, Green was traded to the Rams....
>
> daryll
Psst, the Atlanta papers are saying he was traded to the Raiders.
|
46.123 | | QUASER::JACKSONTA | If you see Kay | Thu Apr 15 1993 21:26 | 5 |
| daryll, he was traded to the faids. The local rag made a big deal
out of it since it was an inner division trade, which Denver
typically doesn't do. They just wave them and other teams pick um up.
Tim
|
46.124 | | SALEM::DODA | Bill's Pork Parade Rolls on | Fri Apr 16 1993 14:29 | 5 |
| Yeah, the local paper was a typo.
never mind....
daryll
|
46.125 | 1st round prediction for the faids....Willie Roaf | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Fri Apr 16 1993 19:15 | 8 |
| I hope OL, Willie Roaf or LB, Marvin Jones will still be available for the
Raiders nexted week. The Raiders have the twelfth pick in the firsted
round.....so I think Roaf might still be there, but I don't think Jones
will. OL, Lincoln Kennedy is also a possibility, but I think he'll be
gone right away....and even if both Kennedy and Roaf are available in
the 12th, I'd rather see Roaf in Silver and Black.
Carlitos
|
46.126 | I say he lasts five games! | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Wed Apr 21 1993 15:13 | 15 |
| Dear Mr. Montana, welcome to the AFC Wested, I'd like to extend my
personal wishes for a successful end to great career wif da Chiefs.....
but unfortunately I cain't, seeing as how you proberly won't even make
it through the year. :-) Considering you'll be facing the LB's of the
doinks, the Chargers tough defense, the DL of the Raiders, and also
having a 300+ pound Cortez Kennedy on your butt....I think it's gonna
be a long year Joe.
Lasted year Krieg got sacked 48 times, and now (thanks to free agency)
the Chiefs are without one of their better o-linemen, Dave Lutz. Also,
Mike Baab is still up for grabs....I think the faids oughtta grab him
just to make life a little rougher for Joe. :-)
Carloskiwitz
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46.127 | | QUASER::JACKSONTA | If you see Kay | Wed Apr 21 1993 21:38 | 12 |
| re-1
Ha ha ha ha ha...I love it!
So KC lost just 1 OL? I thought it was 2, but if Baab is still
marketing, then who knows.
Good greeting card Carlos!
Tim
|
46.128 | Go Raiders | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | MR INFORMER..LICKY LICKY BOOM BOOM DOWN | Mon Apr 26 1993 19:06 | 8 |
|
Great first rd pick by the Raiders yesterday. Patrick Bates S
Texas A&M. This guy can flat out hit. He's in the mold of Tatum and
Lott. Anyone know why they passed on there 2nd rd Pick?
Chap
|
46.129 | draft | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Fri Apr 30 1993 15:06 | 13 |
| I gotta agree with you Chappy, if Bates is even half as good as all the
draft analysts make him out to be the Raiders done good. I also think
they done alright with most of their other picks:
Olanda Truitt, wr, Miss. St. - good pickup
Greg Biekert, ilb, Colo. - should help alot
Greg Robinson, rb, NE Lou. - this guys got some speed
Billy Joe Hobert, qb, Wash. - strong arm, but needs more experience
James Trapp, db, Clemson - never heard of him
Carloski
|
46.130 | | ROYALT::ASHE | Owner 92-93 DEChoop & FBA champs | Fri Apr 30 1993 19:03 | 3 |
| Dave Waymer died today. Unknown causes... He was 34... If you want
to move this to the RIP note or the Notre Dame note, feel free...
|
46.131 | | 28953::MITCHAM | Andy in Alpharetta (near Atlanta) | Fri Apr 30 1993 19:24 | 22 |
| From: clarinews@clarinet.com (UPI)
Subject: NFL star Dave Waymer dead at 34
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 93 11:03:20 PDT
MORRISVILLE, N.C. (UPI) -- Los Angeles Raiders safety safety Dave
Waymer died of unknown causes Friday after being taken to a medical
center near his North Carolina home. He was 34.
Verna Bennett, a spokeswoman for the Lake Norman Regional Medical
Center, said Waymer was in cardiac arrest at 8:20 a.m. when he arrived
at the hospital 30 miles north of Charlotte. He was pronounced dead 20
minutes later.
She said an autopsy was scheduled to be performed at Baptist Hospital
in Winston Salem, N.C., to determine the cause of death.
Greg Campbell, his Los Angeles-based agent, said Waymer was playing
with his son when he collapsed at his home.
Waymer was a standout at Notre Dame and a 14-year NFL veteran. He
played 10 years with the New Orleans Saints, earning Pro Bowl honors in
1987. He moved on to the San Francisco 49ers as a Plan B free agent in
1990 and led the club in interceptions for two sessons.
When San Francisco drafted Dana Hall out of Washington, Waymer was
allowed to move on to the Raiders as a Plan B free agent. He was
currently under contract with the Raiders.
|
46.132 | you can rest easy now | QUASER::JACKSONTA | If you see Kay | Sat May 01 1993 16:13 | 9 |
| Well this ought to make the faider faithful happy, it looks like
Wrong way Jay Schraeder is now a Bengal and will back up Klingler. How
quickly he changed his attitude from demanding to be a starter to being
a backup with a bad team.
So I guess this means that Todd (howdy doody) Marinovich is still the
#2 Qb for your faids.
Tim
|
46.133 | TM's #3 | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Mon May 03 1993 14:01 | 10 |
| So long Shredder......BTW, I think Marinovich is still the #3 qb behind
grampa Evans......unless Billy Joe Hobert beats him outta that. In a
recent article in the Raider News Paper, Art Shell was saying that he
felt they might have rushed TM lasted year, and now with the aquisition
of Hoss, he feels the Raiders have two quality veteran qb's (Evans
being the second), and the Raiders can take their time developing TM.
He also says that throwing TM into the fire lasted year should turn out
to be a positive experience for him.
Carlitos
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46.134 | Wheres Mark Wilson???????????? | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | MR INFORMER..LICKY LICKY BOOM BOOM DOWN | Mon May 03 1993 15:02 | 14 |
|
First of all (my obligatory)
TM SIPS.
With Hoss as your #1 and Evans as your number 2, look for Hobert
to make the team as the number 3 QB and an apprentice to Hoss. Maybe
let TM play up in the CFL til he's "ready". Looking at Hobert's career
highlights it looks like he has more talent than TM.
JMO
Chappy
|
46.135 | Alot easier than lasted years.... | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Mon May 03 1993 15:50 | 23 |
| Here's a look at the Raiders 93 schedule:
LA Raiders
Sept. 5 -- Minnesota, 4 p.m.
Sept. 12 -- at Seattle (Sun.), 8 p.m.
Sept. 19 -- Cleveland, 4 p.m.
Sept. 26 -- Open
Oct. 3 -- at Kansas City, 1 p.m.
Oct. 10 -- NY Jets, 4 p.m.
Oct. 18 -- at Denver (Mon.), 9 p.m. (been 10+yrs since last
Oct. 24 -- Open MNF at home)
Oct. 31 -- San Diego, 4 p.m.
Nov. 7 -- at Chicago, 4 p.m.
Nov. 14 -- Kansas City, 4 p.m.
Nov. 21 -- at San Diego, 4 p.m.
Nov. 28 -- at Cincinnati, 1 p.m.
Dec. 5 -- at Buffalo, 1 p.m.
Dec. 12 -- Seattle, 4 p.m.
Dec. 19 -- Tampa Bay, 1 p.m.
Dec. 26 -- at Green Bay, 1 p.m.
Jan. 2 -- Denver, 4 p.m.
Carlitos
|
46.136 | | BSS::JCOTANCH | | Mon May 03 1993 16:01 | 7 |
| > Oct. 18 -- at Denver (Mon.), 9 p.m. (been 10+yrs since last
MNF at home)
The Faids haven't played a home game on Monday night in 10 years?? That's odd
- anyone know if there's any particular reason?
Joe
|
46.137 | And they still got the best MNF record! | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Mon May 03 1993 16:18 | 4 |
| That 10+ yr. figure might be a little off, but it's definitely been
approx. 10 yrs.
Carloski
|
46.138 | Oakland use to sell out..... | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | MR INFORMER..LICKY LICKY BOOM BOOM DOWN | Mon May 03 1993 16:20 | 8 |
|
Yup, Monday Night football is only played in Stadiums that have
Full Houses. With the LA Coliseums capacity over 100,000 they don't
have sellouts.
Chappy
|
46.139 | | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Mon May 03 1993 16:24 | 8 |
46.140 | | QUASER::JACKSONTA | If you see Kay | Mon May 03 1993 16:37 | 10 |
| I think its because of where they play. Typically the networks like
the stadium to look full, and its not easy filling a stadium of 100k+.
You would think they would sell out in LA seeing how what seems like
every other teenager/young adult wears the raider garb, but in
actuality alot of people that wear raider garb aren't really raider fans,
and some of them don't even know the basics of the game. They just wear
this stuff for "attention".
tj
|
46.141 | | QUASER::JACKSONTA | To walk the caves of ice | Mon May 03 1993 17:00 | 1 |
| Blame uncle Al if they faids lose out.
|
46.142 | | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Mon May 03 1993 17:20 | 4 |
| Any of youze Colorado guys know anything about this Biekert kid the
Raiders just drafted?
Carloski
|
46.143 | GO RAIDERS | WMOIS::FASSETT_E | | Mon May 03 1993 18:11 | 11 |
| I would not blame Uncle Al for the reason they do not sell out as much
as I would blame the configuration of the L.A. Coliseum. I lived out
there when the Raiders moved to town and I remember a statistic that
stated that only 30% of the seats are between the 20 yard lines. I
believe that this is one of the reasons that the Rams left for Anaheim
a few years earlier. If you notice the track that surrounds the
football field extends way past the end zones at the end of the field
that the columns are at. I think this is the end where the Olympic
torch was placed. The coliseum was originally built for the olympics
and not for football.
FAST EDDIEF
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46.144 | | SOLANA::MAY_BR | Inside Intel, but no Intel inside | Mon May 03 1993 18:25 | 6 |
|
Did they build the Coliseum after the Raiders moved there and AL didn't
know what it was going to look like? How can you not blame him?
brews
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46.145 | | PATE::MACNEAL | ruck `n' roll | Mon May 03 1993 18:27 | 4 |
46.146 | I love there so called probl;em | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | MR INFORMER..LICKY LICKY BOOM BOOM DOWN | Mon May 03 1993 18:50 | 7 |
|
Mac, there is no problem. They have the best record in the whole
league on Monday night.
Chappy
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46.147 | Since we're on the subject.... | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Mon May 03 1993 19:27 | 59 |
| Actually, the Coliseum was built for football. The Coliseum has been
home to the University of Southern California football team since it
opened. In fact, the Trojans beat the Pomona College team in the first
football game played at the Coliseum back on October 6, 1923. Primary
construction on the Coliseum was completed on May 1, 1923. Right now..
...as we speak, the Coliseum is undergoing the most extensive
renovation since it was built. Previously, fans that were seated in the
first few rows were pretty much at ground level and had a hard time
seeing anything over the players that were standing on the sidelines or
sitting on the benches. Also, the field, over 120 feet from the stands
at the fifty yard line, was too expansive. It was never intimate
enough. When the renovation is complete, the Raiders will have again
have home-field advantage like the Doinks enjoy now, and like the
Raiders used to have in Oakland. Changes that should be completed by
the start of this season include:
*The track being removed and the playing field and surrounding areas
being excavated down to a depth of eleven feet.
*Whole sections of some of the least desirable seating have been
eliminated, downsizing the stadium's capacity from over 92k to ~88k.
(this will make it possible for sellouts to occur, and the broadcast
ban to be lifted)
*Fourteen new rows of seats have been added in front of existing rows -
reducing sightlines from 120 feet at the fifty yard line to 54 feet,
and tapering down to 30 feet at the endzone.
*Greater handicap access and more seats for physically challenged.
*Four times as many restrooms, and greatly improved concessions areas.
*In 1994, even more work will be done. Luxury suites, and many other
improvements are scheduled to be added.
"Lowering the field allows for a better perspective for every seat in
the stadium, especially the ront rows." said Don Webb, the renovation
project manager. Instead of being at ground level, as it was before,
the first row of seats will be four feet above the playing field. "The
fans will get a much better view of the field. Their perspective will
be greatly improved. I like to use the analogy of taking a piece of
paper with writing on it and putting it on a table. If you try to read
the paper when your eyes are on the same level as the table, you can't
-- even if the paper is only an inch away." "However, if you lower the
table a foot you'll be able to read the paper easily because you'll
have a much better perspective. That's what happens when we lower the
field. It improves everyones sightlines." Perhaps just as important is
the fact that the crowd will be physically closer to the field --
thereby making their presence and support that much more tangible to
both teams on the field. "The players are going to appreciate being in
a more intimate facility with our fans," said All Pro CB, Terry
McDaniel. "They'll be much closer to the action and I'm looking forward
to hearing that roar of the crowd from Raider fans. Particularly on
defense, it's going to be great to hear that support."
HtH
Carloski
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46.148 | | TNPUBS::MCCULLOUGH | Melanie is crawling!!! | Mon May 03 1993 19:33 | 3 |
| sigh
Another track and field facility nuked for the almighty bucks of pro football.
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46.149 | | LAGUNA::MAY_BR | Inside Intel, but no Intel inside | Mon May 03 1993 21:23 | 12 |
|
re -1 kwitcherbitchin. If T&F was popular enough to support the
facility, football wouldn't be able to determine what got built there.
re -2 People really think that going from 92k to 88k is gonna allow
sellouts? There ain't enough people in LA who care about the games to
sell them out consistently. What is the largest crowd the raiders have
seen? You could buy playoff tickets to tomorrow's Laker game
yesterday.
brews
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46.150 | | PEAKS::WOESTEHOFF | | Mon May 03 1993 21:37 | 17 |
| > Any of youze Colorado guys know anything about this Biekert kid the
> Raiders just drafted?
Greg Biekert is the classic overachiever. Nobody recruited him when he
came out of high school. He sent video's of himself all over the country
to try to get a scholarship but nobody was interested. When a Colorado
player got injured and had to drop off the team, Coach Mac decided to give
a scholarship to Biekert because he was a local kid. He only went on to
become a 3 year starter and the 2nd leading tackler in CU history(next
to Byron Wizard White). The pro scouts all say he's too small or too slow
to star in the NFL. But his football instinct's are as good as you'll
find. He always seems to be in on tackles and forcing or recovering
fumbles. He's even played great on special teams. He has the attitude that
every coach loves to have on his team. He could be a total bust or
continue to overachieve in the NFL.
Keith
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46.151 | | AKOCOA::J_RODOPOULOS | | Tue May 04 1993 12:59 | 6 |
| Re: Raiders and the best Monday night record
Too bad that most of their games are played on Sunday where they aptly
demonstrate their inabilities as a football team.
John "D Cowboys" R.
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46.152 | Still #1 on Sundays and Mondays. | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Tue May 04 1993 14:19 | 28 |
46.153 | Just win Baby | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | MR INFORMER..LICKY LICKY BOOM BOOM DOWN | Tue May 04 1993 15:01 | 14 |
|
Plus, in rebuilding years the Raiders at least have some pride
and finish 6-10 7-9. They don't become the laughing stock of the NFL
and finish 1-15.
They also don't have to moniker themselves as Amereica's team
as the Cowadholescents did in the late Seventies to get more of a fan
base. And don't say the Media came up with that either because a friend
of mine has a team Media guide distributed by the Cowboys in either 77
or 78 and the Title reads. "DALLAS COWBOYS AMERICA"S TEAM.
|
46.154 | | AKOCOA::J_RODOPOULOS | | Tue May 04 1993 15:21 | 14 |
| Re: Raiders and rebuilding
The Reindeers have done nothing other than rebulit themselves to
mediocrity. If that is something to pride then be my guest.
The Cowboys took everything apart, and built a steady foundation
and getting the best out of deals with other teams, especially the
Reindeers. The moniker of "laughing stock of the NFL" belongs to other
teams which shall (Broncos,Partiots) remain nameless.
As far as America's team, I would rather see the Cowboys carry that
baggage instead of the favorite insignia of drug gangs.
John "D Cowboys" R.
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46.155 | | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Tue May 04 1993 15:40 | 25 |
46.156 | | NAC::G_WAUGAMAN | | Tue May 04 1993 15:49 | 8 |
|
> The Raiders DON'T rebuild, they just reload!
If the Raiders were a gunfighter, they'd be a rotting bullet-ridden
corpse lying up on Boot Hill by now...
glenn
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46.157 | | PATE::MACNEAL | ruck `n' roll | Tue May 04 1993 16:07 | 2 |
| I see the Raider fans are showing their vast knowledge of ancient
history again.
|
46.158 | | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Tue May 04 1993 16:12 | 4 |
| Well we can't really brag about the future since it hasn't happened
yet, now can we? :-)
Carloski
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46.159 | I always liked Sparta..... | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | MR INFORMER..LICKY LICKY BOOM BOOM DOWN | Tue May 04 1993 16:21 | 19 |
|
The Raiders like other teams have made there mistakes while
reloading. I.E. Schroeder,Marinovich,Wilson. But they have also made
some outstanding picks and acquisitions. See... Marcus,Plunkett,Lott,
The Rocket (real soon)
I realize these players don't rate up there with those great
picks of Russell Maryland (man he's tearing up the league on first
down) and players like Fryar, Eason, Mandarich etc......
Re-Mac... Ancient History? Mac did you know that the Spartans in
ancient grease were known as the first Raiders and that would prbably
make the Atenians the first Patriots.... Al Davis's ancestor was
probably Copernicus due to his Shrewd dealing.... But than again thats
all ANCIENT history.
Chappy
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46.160 | Only ancient grease is in yo' car. 8^) | CTHQ::LEARY | I don't do ND spandex | Tue May 04 1993 16:42 | 29 |
|
>> The Raiders like other teams have made there mistakes while
>> reloading. I.E. Schroeder,Marinovich,Wilson. But they have also made
>> some outstanding picks and acquisitions. See... Marcus,Plunkett,Lott,
>> The Rocket (real soon)
Huh? Is Rocket going to the Raiders?? Teach him some pass patterns,
willya!
> Re-Mac... Ancient History? Mac did you know that the Spartans in
> ancient grease were known as the first Raiders and that would prbably
> make the Atenians the first Patriots.... Al Davis's ancestor was
> probably Copernicus due to his Shrewd dealing.... But than again thats
> all ANCIENT history.
> Chappy
Chappy, the Norm Crosby/Prof. Irwin Corey of ancient history. Whoaaa.
keep the day job and git some Funk@Wagnalls.
8^)
MikeL
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46.161 | | LAGUNA::MAY_BR | Inside Intel, but no Intel inside | Tue May 04 1993 16:46 | 6 |
|
What did Copernicus (sic) ever deal for besides a couple planetary
sightings for a jail term? I think your knowledge of history is as bad
as your spelling.
brews
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46.162 | | 3335::francus | ABP | Tue May 04 1993 16:50 | 4 |
|
Brews, wasn't it Galileo that got into all sorts of trouble??
The Crazy Met
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46.163 | Or the Polos | CTHQ::LEARY | I don't do ND spandex | Tue May 04 1993 16:57 | 7 |
| Galileo got in hot water with one of the Popes. Copernicus wrote about
the sun as the center of the universe, no? Anyhoo, I don't remember
Copernicus as being such a shrewd bidness main. He musta been thinking
of Cardinal Richelieu or Peter Minuet. 8^)
MikeL
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46.164 | | FRETZ::HEISER | raise your voice in shouts of joy | Tue May 04 1993 16:58 | 1 |
| They both did for declaring the earth revolved around the sun.
|
46.165 | | CAMONE::WAY | Are you Master of your domain? | Tue May 04 1993 17:04 | 9 |
| > They both did for declaring the earth revolved around the sun.
Yeah, the NERVE of those guys.
Everybody knows that the earth revolves around Michael Jordan 8^)
'saw
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46.166 | | TNPUBS::MCCULLOUGH | Melanie is crawling!!! | Tue May 04 1993 17:20 | 7 |
46.167 | Greece or Grease Athenians or Atenians | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | MR INFORMER..LICKY LICKY BOOM BOOM DOWN | Tue May 04 1993 17:31 | 11 |
|
BTW the Spelling mistakes were on purpoise......
I didn't Say Copernicus was a shrewd business man I said he was
shrewd. He Kneww thigns(Knew things for you spell checkers) before others.
Shrude: Discerning; astute. Cunning, Cagey.
Chapy( " " )
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46.168 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | The idea that nothing matters... | Tue May 04 1993 18:02 | 5 |
|
thanks Chappy and Carlos for reminding us all of the 1-15 Sowboys....
brought an instant smile to my face....
mike
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46.169 | | AKOCOA::J_RODOPOULOS | | Tue May 04 1993 18:09 | 6 |
| thanks Chappy and Carlos for reminding us all of the Super Bowl
Champion Cowboys....brought an instant smile to my face...
(paraphrased without permission)
John "D Cowboys" R. :)
|
46.170 | ??? | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Tue May 04 1993 18:21 | 4 |
| Other teams have won the SuperBowl, but have any others ever sank to
the lowly depths of 1-15 ???? Just wondering.
Carlitos
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46.171 | Face it, the Faids are just your run-of-the-mill team now | NAC::G_WAUGAMAN | | Tue May 04 1993 18:31 | 9 |
|
> Other teams have won the SuperBowl, but have any others ever sank to
> the lowly depths of 1-15 ???? Just wondering.
So what? Nobody ever made the outrageous assertion that the Patriots
are just in a 10-year "re-loading" cycle.
glenn
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46.172 | | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Tue May 04 1993 18:48 | 13 |
46.173 | | AKOCOA::J_RODOPOULOS | | Tue May 04 1993 19:23 | 11 |
| Carlitos,
Bragging about being over .500 in the AFC is nothing to write home
about. Granted the Reindeer are the only AFC team to have won an '80s
SB, but since then NADA, ZIP, SQUAT.
The Reindeer will need to overhaul their team if they are serious about
any type of AFC winning %. What in your mind are ares of concern on
this team, and what are the stregnths of this team ?
John "D Cowboys" R.
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46.174 | | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Tue May 04 1993 20:45 | 53 |
46.175 | | PATE::MACNEAL | ruck `n' roll | Tue May 04 1993 20:49 | 3 |
| Biekert is highly regarded? The reply I read about him said he is an
overachiever considered by most to be too small and slow to play in the
NFL.
|
46.176 | | AKOCOA::J_RODOPOULOS | | Tue May 04 1993 20:59 | 10 |
| All kidding aside, I agree that the offense is the primary area of
concern, esp the OL. Re: Wright, don;t expect him to catch the ball
but he can sure run, so leaving him in as KR or PR is probably your
best bet, or else use him as a decoy.
BTW, what's the word on RB ?
John "D Cowboys" R.
P.S. You were right about the 2 SB in the '80s.
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46.177 | They're spinning their wheels, with no hope in sight | NAC::G_WAUGAMAN | | Tue May 04 1993 21:26 | 15 |
|
> The
> other noter was alledging that the Raiders have been in the rebuilding
> cycle for the lasted ten years.
I used your term, "re-loading". You said that the Raiders don't
rebuild, they re-load, and assumed that you meant that they re-load in
a pursuit of a championship, not a trouncing in the AFC title game. I
stand by what I said: the Raiders are no closer to a championship than
they were 2 years ago, 5 years ago, or since they won their last one
10 years ago. Unless there's some method to the madness of the
revolving door strategy at QB, head coach, etc.
glenn
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46.178 | | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Tue May 04 1993 21:38 | 24 |
46.179 | Not subtle reference to Al telling Shell not to play Marcus.. | DECWET::METZGER | Imagine your logo here. | Tue May 04 1993 22:53 | 10 |
|
So are they going to stop yanking Nick Bell around like a yo-yop and give him
some decent PT this year? He's only been impressive every time Shell lets him
in the game for more than 5 carries and yet the next game he's riding pine.
Either he has some really crappy practices or Shell wouldn't know a good
running back unless Al told him.
Metz
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46.180 | | QUASER::JACKSONTA | To walk the caves of ice | Tue May 04 1993 23:27 | 17 |
| All these replies in here in 1 day? Look what you've gone and done.
You still need help at WR.
Sam Graddy has been around for what 5-6 years. He's scared to catch
the ball and never made an impact with either the Donks or Faids.
The Rocket is not proven, so you can't even include him even if he
was signed.
The others are rookies.
Gerold "Death Grip" Perry may help, but I doubt it. HOOT would
scream if he heard of you saying Perry will strengthen the OL.
Tim
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46.181 | | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | MR INFORMER..LICKY LICKY BOOM BOOM DOWN | Wed May 05 1993 13:03 | 14 |
|
I feel the Raiders have no weakness at WR. Tim Brown is one
of the best Wr's in the game,(if someone not Schroeder not Marinovich
can get him the ball.) Willie Gault is Old but still one of the fastest
men in the game and makes alot of clutch receptions. Graddy can prove
to be a real good reciever if he can stay healthy. With Wright's speed
he will demand a great cover guy opening that up for the other reciever
(brown) to be covered by another DB. Overall the recieving corp. is
adequate if Hoss or Hobert can get them the ball. Where the Raider
weakness is, is in the LB corp. The Raiders need that hard hitting
speedy LB who can stop the run.
Chappy
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46.182 | | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Wed May 05 1993 14:15 | 39 |
46.183 | | QUASER::JACKSONTA | To walk the caves of ice | Wed May 05 1993 14:24 | 7 |
| What the Rocket has done in the CFL doesn't mean squat in the NFL.
The field is smaller in the NFL, and of course the caliber of players
is better, thus IMO he would have a tougher time at doing anything.
I forgot about Fernandez at WR.
Tim
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46.184 | Swervyn Mervyn is in Art's doghouse...... | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | MR INFORMER..LICKY LICKY BOOM BOOM DOWN | Wed May 05 1993 15:00 | 12 |
|
Thats true other great CFL players all sucked too. IE Warren Moon,
The Rocket will be a "good player in the NFL. But for those
of you who said that the recieving corp. is weak I believe
Corloskiwitzhead and myself have thoroughly proved, your wrong. Lets
move on shall we?
Chappy
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46.185 | Plus what Tim said | BSS::JCOTANCH | | Wed May 05 1993 15:09 | 8 |
|
> Not proven! Why he's practically been carrying the Argos the lasted
> couple years.
And did you happen to notice where Toronto finished last year?
Joe
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46.186 | LBers should be tough this year! | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Wed May 05 1993 16:22 | 32 |
46.187 | Later Swervin Mervyn... | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Mon May 10 1993 13:33 | 5 |
| Mervyn Fernandez (wr) got traded to the 49'ers for an undisclosed '94
draft pick.....at least we know it's gotta be an eighth rounder or
better. :-)
Carlitos
|
46.188 | UPDATE NEWS | ROYALT::FORGET | LA Raiders #1 | Mon May 10 1993 14:02 | 11 |
|
The Raiders over the weekend have obtained James Lofton again.
Lofton has played the last few seasons with the Bills. Also in
yesterday Boston Globe, they said QB Todd Mavrioch (sp) has spent the
off season on a surf board, rather than in the gym. And he supposely
not gonna report to mini camp.
Mike
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46.189 | | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Mon May 10 1993 16:22 | 7 |
| Good news about Lofton (hopefully), but bad news about Fernandez.
Everybody keeps on waiting for Lofton to slow down but he just keeps
going, and going, and going......(where's that energizer bunny when you
need him?). Also, don't worry 'bout TM not showing for training camp,
he'll be there if his paw says he'll be there! :-)
Carloski
|
46.190 | Realistic approach to the Raiders season for 1993 | OURGNG::RIGGEN | Will Note for food | Tue May 11 1993 18:44 | 21 |
| Seems that the OLDEST team in the NFL just got older by signing Lofton.
This team has a solid defensive line but it isn't very deep if Moss or Howie
are injured they have to mix up the line up to cover the gaping hole left.
Offensive line is probably the greatest strength of the team. Now if Art Smell
would only play smash mouth football for four quarters. Seems that they start
throwing for no other reason than to let this O-line have a chance to hold onto
the defense for a 10 yarder.
RB/FB good talent if they forget Dickerson/Allen and play Smith ?
WR/TE one of the better TE's with Ethan Horton can he carry the load ?
CB/S Ronnie Lott is gone the remainder should get hit with several stupid
penalties this year late hits spearing. Along with the offensive penalties this
should still be the most penalized team in the NFL.
QB Toad/Hoss/Billie Joe/Evans... They should just snap to Steve Smith off
tackle
Prediction 4-11 behind the Seahawks.
|
46.191 | Dancin on the table soon!!! | COMET::DAVIDSON | | Fri May 14 1993 13:55 | 6 |
| 4-11 doesn't add up. They play 16 games. I think that record could
apply to the donkeys since they usually don't show up for at least one
game. Raiders should go 12-4 with out any problems, and go to the Super
Bowl and win it.
Magnum
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46.192 | Prediction - Raiders 11-5 or > | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Fri May 14 1993 17:00 | 29 |
46.193 | | QUASER::JACKSONTA | To walk the caves of ice | Fri May 14 1993 19:22 | 7 |
| Prediction - Raiders 11-5 or >???
You been sippin' that home made wine again?
Whats an ablet Carlos?
Tim
|
46.194 | | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Fri May 14 1993 19:36 | 10 |
46.195 | 8*) | GENRAL::WADE | I reckon so..... | Mon May 17 1993 12:00 | 7 |
|
<sniff>.....
Cuz it smells like a Raider fan over there. Gotta wait
for the air to clear.....
Claybone
|
46.196 | | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Tue May 18 1993 16:33 | 11 |
|
Pre-season Schedule:
(All times local)
Raiders -vs- Packers at Canton Ohio (HoF game) Sat. July 31, 3 p.m.
Raiders -vs- 49'ers at Palo Alto, Calif. Sat. August 7, 4 p.m.
Raiders -vs- Cowboys at Dallas, Sat. August 14, 9 p.m.
Raiders -vs- Colts at Indianapolis, Fri. August 20, 8 p.m.
Raiders -vs- Rams at LA-Rams, Sat. August 28, 9 p.m.
Carlitos
|
46.197 | later holmes.... | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Wed Jun 02 1993 13:51 | 7 |
| Reggie McElroy, T, signed wif da Chiefs....he's 6'6", 190 lbs. and he's
been in the league for 11 years.....he proberly won't be missed to
terribly much...unless the faids have alot of injuries like lasted
year.
Carlitos
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46.198 | | ROYALT::ASHE | RedSox, Northwestern, Lucci | Wed Jun 02 1993 16:59 | 2 |
| 190? and he's a tackle?
|
46.199 | | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Wed Jun 02 1993 19:38 | 1 |
| oooops!, shoulda read 290.....sorry.
|
46.200 | Marcus was a star for the Raiders...and he'll be missed! | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Wed Jun 09 1993 20:44 | 8 |
| Marcus Allen is gone....signed wif da Chiefs....you know he'll be
having some good games against the Raiders too....big mistake Unca AL,
big mistake.....Dickerson will likely be waived, leaving Nick Bell, and
Gaston Greene as the starters....Also the Raiders gave Raghib "Rocket"
Ismail a 45 minute workout yesterday and were said to be impressed,
expect him to be signed before the season opener...
Carlos
|
46.201 | | QUASER::JACKSONTA | To walk the caves of ice | Wed Jun 09 1993 22:07 | 5 |
| Why do the Chiefs want Allen? They have 3 other good backs, unless a
trade is coming. Allen won't be a starter. Maybe the he will be a
Roger Craig type for Joe smoe...
Tim
|
46.202 | they could make him a receiver | FRETZ::HEISER | raise your voice in shouts of joy | Wed Jun 09 1993 22:08 | 1 |
|
|
46.203 | KC $$$$end your players | CNTROL::CHILDS | Gunga Drain Indian type WaterBoy | Thu Jun 10 1993 12:38 | 9 |
|
I would think they'll be trading one of the other three probably Okoye.
Looks like like Hunt is trying to buy himself one more SB appearence
in his lifetime. As one of the big shots amoungst the "good ole boys"
he must be loaded....
mike
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46.204 | | ROYALT::ASHE | Saw: Home of the Big Johnson catalog | Thu Jun 10 1993 13:26 | 1 |
| Allen will come in to catch passes out of the backfield, a la Craig...
|
46.205 | | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Thu Jun 10 1993 14:42 | 8 |
| Also, there's no body better than Marcus at getting the ball into the
endzone on short yardage situations.....(he's got that patented 'diving
over the top' thing going still).
Okoye would be a good pick up for the Raiders if'n the price ain't to
high.
Carlos
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46.206 | | ROYALT::ASHE | Momma's all right, daddy's all right | Thu Jun 10 1993 17:24 | 10 |
| Looks like Al's gambling on the Rocket...
You've got to know when hold 'em,
Know when to fold 'em.
Know when to walk away... and know when to run
You better hold(?) your money, when sittin' at the table,
there'll be time enough for countin, when the dealin's done.
|
46.207 | huh? | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Thu Jun 10 1993 17:35 | 9 |
46.208 | | ROYALT::ASHE | Momma's all right, daddy's all right | Thu Jun 10 1993 17:36 | 2 |
| So was Johnny Rogers...
|
46.209 | | QUASER::JACKSONTA | To walk the caves of ice | Thu Jun 10 1993 17:48 | 4 |
| Take this country crappola to the junk note. Oh never mind, it is
in the junk note;^)
Tim
|
46.210 | | DECWET::METZGER | Imagine your logo here. | Thu Jun 10 1993 17:53 | 6 |
|
So was renaldo Neamiah...
But he still wasn't a good reciever in the NFL...
Metz
|
46.211 | | SOLANA::MAY_BR | Canseco,Barkley,/Don? | Thu Jun 10 1993 18:24 | 6 |
|
I'm not sure he'd have been the #1 pick. At the time, people were
still laughing at the last heisman winner from ND that the RAiders had
drafted.
brews
|
46.212 | Tim Brown is for real! | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Thu Jun 10 1993 19:11 | 24 |
46.213 | | SOLANA::MAY_BR | Canseco,Barkley,/Don? | Thu Jun 10 1993 20:30 | 5 |
|
Current thinking in the NFL is that any 1st rounder, except QB's,
should be a starter, their rookie year. Brown wasn't.
brews
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46.214 | | ROYALT::ASHE | Momma's all right, daddy's all right | Thu Jun 10 1993 20:31 | 3 |
| Rison, Rice, Taylor, Irvin, Barnett, Reed, Sharpe, Haynes, Givens,
Jefferies... there's 10 I'd take ahead of Brown... maybe top 10 AFC.
|
46.215 | Your list is relative. | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Fri Jun 11 1993 16:01 | 15 |
46.216 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | Paying for decades of Demo.Congress | Fri Jun 11 1993 17:45 | 6 |
| > Moon, or Rice and Taylor without Montana and Young, or Irvin without
> Aikman (matter o fack, a couple years ago when Aikman got hurt and
Rice and Taylor have both done well with Montana, Young, Bono ...
They'd be good with any QB in the league, Shredder included.
|
46.217 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | "livin' for their whiskey, wine & gin" | Fri Jun 11 1993 17:49 | 11 |
| <<< Note 46.216 by MIMS::ROLLINS_R "Paying for decades of Demo.Congress" >>>
> Moon, or Rice and Taylor without Montana and Young, or Irvin without
> Aikman (matter o fack, a couple years ago when Aikman got hurt and
>> Rice and Taylor have both done well with Montana, Young, Bono ...
>> They'd be good with any QB in the league, Shredder included.
Betcha Johnny Smellway could find a way to over-throw them, make em' look
bad....
|
46.218 | HtH | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Fri Jun 11 1993 18:34 | 7 |
46.219 | | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | Paying for decades of Demo.Congress | Mon Jun 14 1993 16:07 | 8 |
46.220 | | CTHQ::LEARY | McSorley,McFilthy,McNasty | Mon Jun 14 1993 16:38 | 9 |
| Suffice it to say that Rice and Taylor are in the stratosphere.
I think Brown is a solid receiver and could be in the Top 10 Club
(so subjective) this year.
Now if he can only teach fellow ND'er Rocketmain how to run a decent
pass pattern....
MikeL
|
46.221 | will he be more of a scud, or a patriot type Rocket? | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Tue Jun 29 1993 13:06 | 63 |
|
Subject: Lawyer says 'Rocket' to land with Raiders
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 93 15:15:40 PDT
TORONTO (UPI) -- The agent for Raghib ``Rocket'' Ismail said Monday
the former Notre Dame star who spent the last two seasons playing
professional football in Canada is very close to signing with the Los
Angeles Raiders.
Ismail, who spurned the NFL in 1991 to join the Toronto Argonauts of
the Canadian Football League for a four-year, $20 million deal, had a
private workout session last Tuesday at the Raiders' training facility
in El Segundo, Calif.
Attorney Bob Woolf called the chances of Ismail returning to the
Argonauts ``slim-to-none'', and he also said he has met with Raiders
owner Al Davis to discuss the terms of a contract between Ismail and the
Raiders.
``The talks are going very good,'' Woolf told UPI in a telephone
interview from his Boston office.
Woolf would not say how much Ismail is seeking, but he has told
reporters he is looking for a multi-year deal at more than $1 million
per season.
``We are hoping for a figure that equals what the Rocket's talent is
worth,'' Woolf said.
Ismail, who signed a series of four one-year deals with the Argonauts
on the eve of the 1991 NFL entry draft, was brought to the CFL in hopes
he would be a high-profile player who could raise awareness and revenue
for a sagging team and league.
Ismail signed a personal services contract with Argonaut owners,
Bruce McNall, Los Angeles Kings captain Wayne Gretzky and actor John
Candy, which obliged him to make promotional appearances and perform
public relations duties for the team.
McNall said through a spokesman Monday he is refusing comment until
all negotiations are finalized.
The speedy and explosive receiver and punt returner had performed
well on the field for the Toronto Argonauts, but his reclusive nature
has made him a failure as the off-field marketing tool the team and
league desperately need to survive.
Woolf said the personal services contract has been discontinued but
he said the Argonauts still owe Ismail money guaranteed in the contract.
The Argonauts say they owe Ismail nothing since he did not live up to
his off-field expectations.
Argonauts general manager Mike McCarthy said Ismail had a tremendous
impact on football in Canada with his on-field success.
``Attendance went up, there was an awareness of Canadian football (in
Canada and the U.S.) and his on-field performance was elite,'' McCarthy
said from the Argonauts' training facility in Guelph, Ontario. ``People
actually knew where Canada was (because of Ismail).''
Ismail, second in the 1991 Heisman Trophy balloting to Brigham Young
University quarterback Ty Detmer, was touted as a high first-round pick
by many NFL scouts before he signed with Toronto. Despite his signing,
the Raiders drafted him in the fourth round.
In his first season with the Argonauts, Ismail had 3,049 all-purpose
yards and became only the second player in CFL history to gain over 3,
000 all-purpose yards in a single season. He led the team to a victory
in the 1991 championship game over the Calgary Stampeders, and he was
named the game's Most Valuable Player.
Last season, Ismail recorded almost 3,000 all-purpose yards despite
missing four games with injuries, but the Argonauts missed the playoffs.
carlos (the soon to be G-man)
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46.222 | Untouchable? | GENRAL::WADE | A in C | Tue Jun 29 1993 14:25 | 7 |
|
> carlos (the soon to be G-man)
Care to elaborate?
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46.223 | might be making Cheerios ? | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Tue Jun 29 1993 14:47 | 12 |
46.224 | | CAMONE::WAY | Nobles of the Mystic Shrine | Tue Jun 29 1993 14:57 | 1 |
| Smart man......
|
46.225 | | QUASER::JACKSONTA | To walk the caves of ice | Tue Jun 29 1993 15:22 | 4 |
| You mean another faider faithful leaving? Chappy might be the only
one left to "harrass"? It just won't be the same.
Tim
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46.226 | Hoss never had receivers like these in NY | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Wed Jun 30 1993 15:11 | 18 |
46.227 | Hoss, TM, Evans, Billy Joe, & Majik...? | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Thu Jul 01 1993 14:00 | 7 |
| .....even more interesting Raider news....I could just about swear that
earlier this morning I heard on ESPN's Sports Center that the Raiders
were also very close to signing Majikowski (sp?)...? Also, the Toronto
newspapers are reporting that the Rocket has landed in LA, but Rockets
agent is denying it, and the Raiders aren't saying anything...
Carlitos
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46.228 | TM Sips | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | Another Yankee fan due in January :-) | Thu Jul 01 1993 15:00 | 7 |
|
Yes this must mean they have finally given up on that
SuckbagNonarmHavingfu#$head..... TM
Chappy
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46.229 | | QUASER::JACKSONTA | To walk the caves of ice | Thu Jul 01 1993 15:41 | 2 |
| Now all they needs is 3 more RB's to top off that powerful offense
led by death grip Perry;^)
|
46.230 | | TNPUBS::MCCULLOUGH | Lindsey and Melanie have a new house... | Thu Jul 01 1993 20:14 | 2 |
| Heard the Majkowski rumor - would be a blow to the Pack, but he is awfully
expensive for a second string QB.
|
46.231 | | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Thu Jul 01 1993 21:43 | 10 |
46.232 | | GENRAL::WADE | A in C | Fri Jul 02 1993 12:55 | 4 |
|
Good luck Carlos!
Claybone
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46.233 | | QUASER::JACKSONTA | Show me that wide river | Fri Jul 02 1993 14:27 | 6 |
| Though we havent always agreed on everything or anything at that, I
do wish you good luck on your new adventure. Hopefully DEC, or DIGITAL
for the new mindset, will pay you to leave, just like it has for many
others, that way you leave with a smile and another job!
Tim
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46.234 | | QUASER::JACKSONTA | Show me that wide river | Fri Jul 02 1993 14:34 | 10 |
| Now back to it,
It won't matter who the starter is, he will be benched every other
week until the Uncle can figure out who is better. Besides, Al is used
to paying the big bucks to guys getting splinters in the rear. He
probably still won't use Nick Bell to the potential that he has.
Vince Evans must be ready to finally hang the old jock strap up.
Tim
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46.235 | | QUASER::JACKSONTA | Show me that wide river | Tue Jul 06 1993 15:50 | 5 |
| Read that Aaron Wallace is in trouble for raping a girl in Dallas
during his college days. I wonder if he and Gerald (I didn't force
her) Perry hang out together (no punn).
Tim
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46.236 | Raiders are gonna do it for the AFC this year! | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Tue Jul 06 1993 18:23 | 14 |
| I think that's ancient history already isn't it? I thought he got
aquitted or something like that. Still no official news on the
'Rocket'. Seen something about Troy Aikman though, that kinda caught my
eye......lasted year he was the SuperBowl MVP, but a couple of years
ago when he got started, he lost his first eleven games. I wish the
Raiders woulda shown that kind of patience lasted year with Marinovich.
TM hasn't even had eleven games yet, but he's already got four
victories under his belt. (I think he lost about six?) If old Chappy
woulda been a Cowboy fan, he'd proberly have been crying for Aikmans
head too..? ( many :-) )
Carloski (who still thinks TM's gonna be a good QB)
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46.237 | Only 3 more days to sling it;-) | QUASER::JACKSONTA | Show me that wide river | Tue Jul 06 1993 20:35 | 12 |
| Carlos, make up your mind on Howdy Doody will ya? He won't get a
chance now that Hoss and Majik are the qb's (assuming Majik signed).
Maybe Seattle or the sqeelers will pick him up as a starter(seattle)
or backup(pitt).
Has he stayed outta trouble so far this offseason?
I agree a "future" qb needs playing time, no matter who it is. Alot
of what are now good/great qb's started with losses over their 1st year
or 2.
Tim
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46.238 | | DECWET::METZGER | This is the song that never ends. | Tue Jul 06 1993 20:43 | 5 |
|
Why the hell would Seattle pick up another (virtual) rookie? They've already
got Mirer and McGwire for QB's with absolutely no experience.
Metz
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46.239 | I thought JaKe would be the 1st to reply... | QUASER::JACKSONTA | Yes,Calgon took her away! | Tue Jul 06 1993 20:47 | 8 |
| Metz, old habbits are hard to break. Don't forget Stouffer. He was
a virtual rookie since he held out his 1st season with the cards.
What about that other guy from last year that brought back the hapless
hawks against the on-the-road donks?
Is Jim Zorn available;^)
Tim
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46.240 | Always been pro-TM.... | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Tue Jul 06 1993 21:06 | 12 |
46.241 | | QUASER::JACKSONTA | Yes,Calgon took her away! | Tue Jul 06 1993 22:26 | 17 |
| I guess calling for his head (figure 'o speech) last year doesn't
mean your anti TM. I know you stuck up fur him for his 1st 6 or so
games, then if I remember correctly, you were even having your
doubts. Weren't you agreeing with Chappy on his TM feelings? Thats
what I meant by makin' your mind up.
Yeh the Uncle wants to win now, not 2 years from now, so unless the
other qbs get hurt, then TM will ride pine.
I don't know if this was posted, but Eric Dickerson reportedly
signed a 1 year worthless piece of paper with the falcoons and is to
make 1.3 mil.
Nick Bell will get his chance now, 'cause Green won't do the job
IMO.
Tim
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46.242 | TM Sips. | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | No.3 looms over Fenway..... | Wed Jul 07 1993 12:53 | 8 |
|
Good riddance Dickerson. Carlos is this still your last week?
It's gonna be tough fighting off all these Bruncow, fans by myself but
I'll try. Hey nexted year when TM either goes to jail or he is cut
outright by the Raiders think of me and say I guess Chappy was right
:-).
Chappy
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46.243 | | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Wed Jul 07 1993 14:33 | 35 |
46.244 | | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | No.3 looms over Fenway..... | Wed Jul 07 1993 15:06 | 7 |
|
Carlos is right he has never put down TM. I think he loves the
guy. :-)
Chappy
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46.245 | | CSC32::M_MACGREGOR | | Wed Jul 07 1993 15:34 | 9 |
|
Hey if it is any consolation, I will try to help defend against these
Broncos fans. The reason I haven't posted too often is I am in
Colorado and fighting the great fight in person instead. Hell you may
recall that I said that the Rockies would finish with a higher winning
% than the Broncos (to which Joe Cotach came up to my cube and said I
was nuts...possibily 8^) and I'm sticking by that prediction.
Marc
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46.246 | back from vacation but not for long... | CNTROL::CHILDS | Deceptively old, almost mature | Wed Jul 07 1993 16:27 | 4 |
|
good luck Carlos. I'll do my best to slap the Donks every chance I get...
mike
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46.247 | | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Wed Jul 07 1993 17:05 | 20 |
46.248 | | QUASER::JACKSONTA | Yes,Calgon took her away! | Wed Jul 07 1993 17:55 | 12 |
| Mike won't do any Biffy slamming, heck I could dig up a couple
p_names that proves he's an Elway fan!;^)))
As to you not antiying TM, then my appologies. I guess its seems
too long between seasons.....
Carlos, you would be suprised how many faider fans there are around
here, seeing how 1/2 of the people that work at CX0* are transplants or
other people living in C. Springs are gang member wannabees. Some sad
days indeed.....
Tim
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46.249 | | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Thu Jul 08 1993 14:13 | 7 |
| Eric Dickerson is officially gone now to the (Raider wanna-be) Falcons.
He signed a 1 year deal for $1.3 Meg., and the Raiders will proberly
end up with a 6th round pick nexted year.....unless Dickerson goes over
1000 yds, then they'll get a 5th rounder.
Carloski
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46.250 | The magic is gone... | NAC::G_WAUGAMAN | | Thu Jul 08 1993 14:34 | 7 |
|
You gotta love the Raider fan mentality. Praise the washed-up stiffs
as they're coming in, and slam them on their way out. Al Davis knows
what he's doing. Uh-huh.
glenn
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46.251 | He's still our Uncle.............. | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | No.3 looms over Fenway..... | Thu Jul 08 1993 14:38 | 12 |
|
That's because the Majority of the time when they come in they
still have something to offer... ie (Plunkett, Alzado, Lott,
Gault,Lofton) When they go out they usually have no more usefulness.
And on Al Davis... I realize he isn't as shrewd as Lou Gorman, Glen
but you gotta agree he still gets the job done.
Chappy
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46.252 | | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Thu Jul 08 1993 15:03 | 20 |
46.253 | We've been through this before; 1983 was a long time ago | NAC::G_WAUGAMAN | | Thu Jul 08 1993 15:27 | 18 |
|
> Plunkett, Alzado, Ben Davidson, Otis Sistrunk (sp?),
> etc....etc... that come in from other organizations that considered
> them washed up, and have contributed to the Raiders success.
Ancient history. In those days the Raiders were able to supplement
with unwanted castoffs a solid team built on solid drafts that for
almost 20 years never faltered. Those days are gone, and in their
place is desperation. Ronnie Lott may be an exception to the rule in
recent years, but it doesn't make a damn bit of difference, because the
Raiders were not legitimate championship contenders with or without him,
and he'll be comfortably in retirement before they are again. You can't
build an entire team that way. Hostetler, Majkowski, Lofton? Forget it.
A large part of was left of the team's future died with Bo Jackson, and
hasn't been replaced. Just being objective...
glenn
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46.254 | the formula still works...with the exception of acts of God! | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | Put your hope in God! | Thu Jul 08 1993 16:24 | 21 |
| glenn, the Raiders ain't doing things that much different now then they
were 10 or even 20 years ago....IMHO, it's just that they've ran into
some bad luck with unforseen accidents or events......they've also made
at least one semi boneheaded trade....consider where they might've been
if (like you mentioned) Bo hadn't got hurt.....or Scott Davis hadn't
decided to retire....or Stacy Toran wouldn't have gotten killed in an
auto accident....these are all players that were drafted by the Raiders
that would be playing pretty near to pro-bowl level football right
now.... but as fate had it they're not, and the Raiders have had to go
out and try to replace these players through the draft, plan-b, & free
agency...and if they wouldn't have had to replace these guys, they
could've gotten other players at other positions and kept the ball
rolling smoothly. Also consider where they might be if they would've
kept Lachey and continued developing Beurlein.....although at the time
I was glad to see Schroeder after having Marc Wilson around...
BTW, Lott is not the only recent success story either...Max Montoya has
performed very (with the exception of last year due to injuries), so
has Elvis Patterson on special teams, Mervyn Fernandez at WR, Bob Golic
DE,......just to name a few more.....
Carlos
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46.255 | S&B forever!! | CNTROL::CHILDS | Lefty > Dean | Thu Jul 08 1993 17:00 | 4 |
|
that a boy Carlos go out swing!!!!!!!!!
;^)
|
46.256 | | WREATH::DEVLIN | Agassi - the Hairless wonder... | Thu Jul 08 1993 17:07 | 17 |
| Carlos -
I've been a Raider fan forever - and what they have done as an organization now pales
with 10 or 20 years ago. The teams of John Madden and Ken Stabler were built via
the draft. That team was mostly draft picks. With good acquisitions off the
scrap heap. Otis Sistrunk was a semi-pro player, hence the University "NONE"
notation in the lineup. He wasn't a cast off from another team.
Stabler, Branch, Belitnikoff, Upshaw, Davis, Buehler, Davis, Van Eaghan, Hubbard,
Villapiano, Tatum, Atkinson, etc - all were draft picks I believe.
This team lost it soul when it moved to LA. It took a few years for the Oakland
part of the team to fade away, hence the early LA success. But since then, they
haven't built the team like they did in the past.
JD
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46.257 | | CAM3::WAY | We pruned the house too | Thu Jul 08 1993 17:26 | 6 |
| Marv Hubbard also played semi-pro ball, I think. He played in the
same league with the Hartford Knights, and I *think* he played for the
Pottstown Firebirds, but I could have that wrong....
'Saw
|
46.258 | Raiders'93 | ROYALT::FORGET | LA Raiders #1 | Tue Jul 27 1993 11:18 | 17 |
|
well this Saturday Afternoon is our first look this season at the
Raiders.
Hall of Fame Game
Los Angeles Raiders
vs
Green Bay Packers
Canton, Ohio 3:00pm
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46.259 | Just Win!!!! | ROYALT::FORGET | LA Raiders #1 | Tue Aug 10 1993 14:36 | 5 |
|
well the Raiders looked good against the Pack, but not so good
against the 49ers. Does anyone know if Howie long has signned yet?????
|
46.260 | | LAGUNA::MAY_BR | squished tomatoes | Wed Aug 11 1993 16:24 | 9 |
|
Howie signed yesterday. Heard some LA reporter on the radio talking
about Al. Basically, he said that he has lost it, that the reason Lott
and Allen left were because Al is gonzo. Said Tim McKyer was ready to
sign with LA as a FA, until Lott told him not to. He went on to say
that players as well respected as Lott and Allen will prevent Al from
signing any decent FAs.
brews
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46.261 | | ELMAGO::BENBACA | Neb, thats me! | Wed Aug 11 1993 23:51 | 1 |
| Uncle Al has been "Gonzo" for a long time :-)
|
46.262 | Saturday Night | ROYALT::FORGET | LA Raiders #1 | Fri Aug 13 1993 11:40 | 5 |
|
L.A. Raiders & Dallas Cowboys 8/14 ESPN
|
46.263 | FIRE! | CNTROL::CHILDS | Vo-La-Ray-Oh-Oh-Can-Sa-Ray-WowWow | Fri Aug 13 1993 12:11 | 11 |
|
L.A. Raiders & Dallas Cowboys 8/14 ESPN
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Bring an old TV and lots of veggies and fruits
this one promises to be a stinker.....
mike
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46.264 | pre-season, bah humbug | METSNY::francus | Mets in '93 | Fri Aug 13 1993 13:35 | 2 |
|
The Crazy Met
|
46.265 | Best news today.......... | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | No.3 looms over Fenway..... | Mon Aug 30 1993 21:00 | 17 |
|
YIPPPPPPPPPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
YAHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
YIPPPPPPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
YAHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Todd Marinovich was Cut today.
Yippppeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
yahoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Uncle Al I still got faith!!!!
No arm coke sniffin never was never will be!!!!!!
Chappy
|
46.266 | | ELMAGO::HFELIPE | BOOM, there it is | Mon Aug 30 1993 21:16 | 2 |
| Marijuanavich's Raider career goes up in smoke...
|
46.267 | | PEAKS::WOESTEHOFF | | Mon Aug 30 1993 22:12 | 5 |
| I heard a rumor that the CFL(Columbian Football League) wants to sign him
up.
Keith
|
46.268 | | DECWET::METZGER | Come and play, everything's A OK. | Mon Aug 30 1993 22:28 | 12 |
|
Is he gonna be signed up for the practise squad after they expand the rosters?
Hard to believe he was beaten out by Billy-Joe ($50k loan...I didn't know it
was against NCAA rules) Hobert. Does this mean that Vince "old Man" evans is
still a backup?
What ever happened to the Snake Jr. and other accolades?
KC or Tampa should sign Marinovich...
Metz
|
46.269 | | ACESMK::FRANCUS | Mets in '94 | Tue Aug 31 1993 04:12 | 7 |
| re: .265
That is a precious, precious, note. A Stankees fan talking about a coke
sniffin player. hah!
The Crazy Met
|
46.270 | Well I never heard such blasphemy..... | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | No.3 looms over Fenway..... | Tue Aug 31 1993 10:27 | 3 |
|
Are you saying that Yankees sniff cocacola.
|
46.271 | | CAM3::WAY | If I had no loot | Tue Aug 31 1993 12:48 | 4 |
| > Are you saying that Yankees sniff cocacola.
Howe could someone EVER think such a thing?????
|
46.272 | Cut from the team | ROYALT::FORGET | LA Raiders #1 | Tue Aug 31 1993 14:44 | 9 |
|
also waived yesterday was Kicker Jeff Jaeger & punter Paul Gossebar
and WR James Lofton. Raiders signed Rocket Ismail to a 2 year deal
Mike
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46.273 | Raiders sign Rocket! Champeenship in Feb! | CTHQ::LEARY | Corporate Telecom Technology Solutions | Tue Aug 31 1993 14:52 | 1 |
|
|
46.274 | | QUASER::JACKSONTA | Real mans sport is starting! | Tue Aug 31 1993 19:36 | 6 |
| I knew you would be a happy Chappy! I don't know why they cut
their 2 pro-bowl kickers (if I remember that right).
MikeL eating crow in Feb!!! The rocket will most likely get hurt.
Tim
|
46.275 | Go S+B | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | No.3 looms over Fenway..... | Mon Sep 13 1993 13:05 | 12 |
|
2-0 baby. Brownies next week woof woof woof.
Hostetler looked real good(First time in awhile I could say that about
a Raider Qb in a long time).
Tim Brown was everywhere.
Anthony Smith 3 sacks and about 4 more hurries.
Chappy
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46.276 | | CAM3::WAY | Hers for the taking.... | Mon Sep 13 1993 13:25 | 15 |
| > Hostetler looked real good(First time in awhile I could say that about
> a Raider Qb in a long time).
I mentioned this in the NFL note, but Hoss's game has improved tremendously.
He's scanning both halves of the field, and he's gotten his "happy feet"
problem under control. He lead the team well last night, and that
was my biggest gripe with him in NY -- he didn't lead.
Perhaps coming into a situation where there was no strong QB was the
best thing for him, and allowed him to develop a rapport with the players
and become a leader....
'Saw
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46.277 | FFL Team needs to know | MR1PST::CBULLS::MBROOKS | | Mon Sep 13 1993 20:07 | 4 |
| can someone tell me when/if the rocket signed ? What his contract
is, and some sort of verification that he indeed is under contract
in the NFL.. Thanks in advance...
MaB
|
46.278 | | ROYALT::ASHE | WE WUZ ROBBED!!! - D.R. | Mon Sep 13 1993 20:13 | 2 |
| He was activated this week...
|
46.279 | | MSE1::FRANCUS | NY YANKMEES: A SPROTS DYNASTY | Tue Sep 21 1993 04:50 | 7 |
| Some folks are real sleaze/wimps. They can gloat over the Yankees tainted
win yet can't seem to face the music when their team BLOWS IT BIG TIME.
Maybe I missed it, but I haven't seen any comments from Chappy about
his beloved Raiders collapse against the Browns.
The Crazy Met
|
46.280 | TCW | 16134::CHAPALONIS_M | No.3 looms over Fenway..... | Tue Sep 21 1993 13:13 | 16 |
|
Nice P_NAME TCW! :-(
I was so miffed at Shell's playcalling yesterday in the 4th
quarter that I just couldn't respond. Thaey just handed the bBrownies
the game.
BTW please don't use my name and anything todo with yours on
the same screen. I can't stand Welchers and I don't want anything to do
with them.
Chappy
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46.281 | | SCHELL::francus | NY YANKMEES: A SPROTS DYNASTY | Tue Sep 21 1993 14:02 | 3 |
| chappy, chappy, chappy - is that enought times for you?? this has real potential
The Crazy Met
|
46.282 | Raiders 27 Donks 20..... | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | Number 3 Looms over Fenway | Mon Oct 18 1993 13:09 | 8 |
|
Getting 6 1/2 tonight is like taking candy (corn) away from Kev. The
Raiders will win outright vs them overated Donks. Look for Smellway to
get sacked at least 5 times.
Chappy
|
46.283 | | QUASER::JACKSONTA | Real man's sport has started! | Mon Oct 18 1993 18:42 | 7 |
| Elway will probably be sacked, but 5x? Monday morning coffee being
rough on thou head?
Faids win outright? Come on, if Hoss is playing, then look for a
loss Chappy.
Tim
|
46.284 | Raiders SB Bound???????? | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | Number 3 Looms over Fenway | Tue Oct 19 1993 12:04 | 12 |
|
I don't think so Tim!!!!!!!!!!!
Did the Donks leave there Offensive line in GB?
BAHGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHh
Anthony Smith plays alot like Donnie Basball.
Chappy
|
46.285 | | GENRAL::WADE | Pull! | Tue Oct 19 1993 12:39 | 10 |
|
Exactly Chap. The new OL we purchased sure looked good last
night didn't they? We want Gerald Perry back. At least when
he got beat he'd pull 'em down from behind so BBJ wouldn't
get killed!
The only guy showing any heart last night, for Denver, was
Bernstine.
Claybone
|
46.286 | | QUASER::JACKSONTA | Real man's sport has started! | Tue Oct 19 1993 18:28 | 6 |
| The donks were on the road last night right?
OL sucked, special teams lacked, and the DL didn't put enough
pressure on Hoss, though he did get pounded once.
Tim
|
46.287 | | METSNY::francus | Mets in '94 | Tue Oct 19 1993 18:33 | 3 |
| game was in Denver.
The Crazy Met
|
46.288 | | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | Number 3 Looms over Fenway | Tue Oct 19 1993 18:55 | 8 |
|
Yeah you know Denver, the Raiders second home! :-)
Chappy
|
46.289 | But that FG looked great at the end....:-) | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | Number 3 Looms over Fenway | Tue Oct 19 1993 19:02 | 10 |
|
But I tell ya. Terry Robiskie must be a Donk fan though cuz the
way he was calling plays last night he wanted the donks to stay in it.
The passing game was working great Hoss was getting all kinds of time
and he keeps running the damn ball. I musta threw my remote control at
Fluffy Too at least 5 times. They do great than they shoot themselves
in the foot.
Chappy
|
46.290 | | MSE1::FRANCUS | Mets in '94 | Tue Oct 19 1993 21:51 | 5 |
| So thats why you were so upset that Fluffy Too might be gone, nothing
to throw the remote control at :-)
The Crazy Met
|
46.291 | Eating pu__y | PFSVAX::JACOB | GO STEELERS!!!! | Wed Oct 20 1993 11:22 | 15 |
| Road kill cats are great cuisine, prepared properly. The best ones are
the ones who got their haid run over. Then, ya just take a good knife,
whack the haid off, clean out the innerds, skin it(keep the pelt, cure
it, makes a nice small throw rug, or pillow cover). then ya wash out
the insides with scalding water, stuff it with yer best "catnip"
stuffing, back at 275 fer about 2-1/2 hours, basting frequently.
Tastes just like chicken.
If the cat got run over in the midsection, it'll already be gutted, so
just skin it, an cut the meat in strips, coat in beer batter, and deep
fry them, again, tastes like chicken strips.
JaKe
|
46.292 | | CSC32::M_MACGREGOR | | Wed Oct 20 1993 16:44 | 6 |
|
Well the Broncos are 19-4 in their last 23 home games. Three of those
four loses to the RAIDERS 8^)
Marc
|
46.293 | | QUASER::JACKSONTA | Real man's sport has started! | Wed Oct 20 1993 17:59 | 4 |
| re-1
Lunch isn't sitting well already (ate in the dec cafe) and now this!
I'm runnin' to the nearest restroom......
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46.294 | | PFSVAX::JACOB | GO STEELERS!!!! | Wed Oct 20 1993 18:04 | 10 |
|
>> Lunch isn't sitting well already (ate in the dec cafe) and now this!
>>I'm runnin' to the nearest restroom......
Well, if ya gotta hurl, do it in a resealable container and send it to
the advocacy group bitchin about the Phillies being called fat and tell
them you're supplying dinner.
JaKe
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46.295 | | METSNY::francus | Mets in '94 | Wed Oct 20 1993 18:04 | 4 |
| It gets worse. Denver is something like 7-14 against the Raiders in Mile High;
They have a huge advantage over everyone else.
The Crazy Met
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46.296 | | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | Number 3 Looms over Fenway | Wed Oct 20 1993 18:26 | 4 |
|
:-)
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46.297 | Luck is everything | QUASER::JACKSONTA | Real man's sport has started! | Thu Oct 21 1993 13:16 | 13 |
| The faids have had the donks number for years, actually make that
forever.
There was this stat in the paper yesterday about Shell vs AFC west:
7-1 vs donks
7-1 vs seachickens
3-4 vs chargless
1-7 vs un-pc (in some opinions) Chiefs
The donks have at least 3 chances in 94 to beat them!!
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46.298 | CHANCES NOT TO GOOD!!! | COMET::DAVIDSON | | Fri Nov 12 1993 19:28 | 5 |
|
SLIM CHANCES,
MAGNUM
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46.299 | Is there any medication for excessive laughing? | QUASER::JACKSONTA | Elway for MVP? | Mon Nov 29 1993 16:31 | 8 |
| Man, sure is quite in here!! Uncle Al must be having a stroke over
this loss to the worse team in the NFL.
I just wish I could have seen HOOT's, Parrot (aka Monty) and Carlos'
faces over this loss when they heard/seen the score. Chappy must be on
vacation (-)
Tim
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46.300 | Toad Christenson(sp) couldn't say enough about it ? | OURGNG::RIGGEN | Sales gets commisions we get "JACK" | Mon Nov 29 1993 18:06 | 5 |
| At the Start of the Donk's Seahawks game Charlie Jones asked Todd about 3 times
about the Raider loss. The only thing Todd could talk about was how good
Denver played... HA !
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46.301 | Definate babbling | MR1PST::CBULLS::MBROOKS | | Mon Nov 29 1993 18:51 | 16 |
| This was a huge loss, talk about a gimme game, this pushes them out
of the playoff picture and they have to play at Buffalo next week.
This team will be lucky to hit 9-7 and this might not be good enough
to make the playoffs. Id prefer to see the raider's over Denver but
if buffalo has to make it then I hope Buffalo, NYJ and Pitt are the
WC teams (or houston if Pitt wins the division). Denver please stay
home :-) Id enjoy every playoff game with those 6 teams, and if Buf
can somehow slip out of the playoffs I hope the Raider take there
place :-).... I dont want buffalo representing the AFC once again,
I can rewatch one of the past 3 years to see them blow a SB how about
someone else getting in there. The Raiders without Marcus Allen are
just not that much fun to watch, and Hoss is an ex giant.. .Sorry
Raider's, just no fun watching you this year... :-)
not that anyone cares...
Mab
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46.302 | | MSE1::FRANCUS | Mets in '94 | Tue Nov 30 1993 00:52 | 4 |
| Chappy watch day 1
The Crazy Met
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46.303 | | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | Number 3 Looms over Fenway | Tue Nov 30 1993 10:13 | 12 |
|
Shaddup!!!!
Just moved our plant to Nashua. Hard to read notes never mind
reply. Yes it was a devastaing loss, but with Terry Robiskie calling
the plays and no RB this team is just a defense with no offense. The
Yanks start soon don't they? :-)
Chappy
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46.304 | | CSOA1::BACH | They who know nothing, doubt nothing... | Tue Nov 30 1993 12:35 | 3 |
| They shoulda lost to da bearz, too...
Chip_GSH_Bach
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46.305 | | QUASER::JACKSONTA | Babe Hockey | Tue Nov 30 1993 13:50 | 8 |
| And the Jets....
As to the faids being in the playoffs, do they deserve to go? Na!
I thought Nick Bell was the next Larry Zconka(sp?)?? Or this new
rookie was great? I assume the OL is falling all over themselves?
Tim
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46.306 | | CSC32::M_MACGREGOR | | Mon Jan 03 1994 11:54 | 20 |
|
10 of the last 12 meetings between these two teams ended within 5
points. Obviously the Bronco-Raider classic matchup was upheld again
yesterday.
First half saw Denver score on 5 out of 5 drives (made it 6 for 6 early
in the second half) while the Raiders could barely move the ball. Yep,
Denver kicked some Raider butt, but in true Bronco-Raider fashion the
Raiders made a great comeback in the second half (the Broncos were
Hossed around 8^) and tied the game with no time on the clock.
Overtime saw Jason Elam miss a 40 yard field goal that would have given
Elway his 33rd "game saving drive" Wide to the left. Raiders drive
and kick a 39 yarder of their own that wins the game and insured a
playoff spot.
Next week, the rematch...Denver at LA for the wild card game. Should
be another classic game.
Marc
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46.307 | BAHHHHHHHHH | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | Number 3 Looms over Fenway | Mon Jan 03 1994 12:02 | 13 |
|
Donks choke again in typical Denver fashion! :-)
It was nice spotting them 17 than pulling victory out of the
jaws of defeat.
We own Denver and look for another win vs the Donks nexted week.
Chappy
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46.308 | 8^) | CTHQ::LEARY | Corporate Telecom Technology Solutions | Mon Jan 03 1994 12:23 | 8 |
| Yup,
Had to be well over 50F, Raiders win!
How about that typical over-hyped, no-talented ND alum, Tim Brown, huh
Childsey??
MikeL
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46.309 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | Dan Reeves mental midget | Mon Jan 03 1994 13:21 | 6 |
|
After 4 years Tim Brown is finally getting the hang of it and I'm supposed to
chew on it? Can I expect another one of these replies in 1999 when the Rocket
finally "gets it"?
mikey
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46.310 | But ah still like him | CTHQ::LEARY | Corporate Telecom Technology Solutions | Mon Jan 03 1994 13:42 | 9 |
| Tim Brown has been an exceptional receiver the last two years or so,
Mike.
Now "Rocket" ain't never gonna git as a receiver. At ND, he never ran
good pass patterns, but relied on speed. He was a great versatile
player at ND; flanker, TB, punt/kickoff returner. As a receiver
(technically speaking) he's average.
MikeL
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46.311 | Good WR are not that easy to come by :-) | MR1PST::CBULLS::MBROOKS | | Mon Jan 03 1994 19:34 | 5 |
| Will Tim Brown still be a raider next year ? Any news in LA on
weather he'll be catching balls from hoss next year or in some other
city (hopefully on the other coast and to the north).
mab
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46.312 | | CSC32::M_MACGREGOR | | Tue Jan 04 1994 11:24 | 6 |
|
As far as I have heard, communications broke down quite some time ago
and both sides agreed to wait until after the season.
Marc
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46.313 | 6 lbs 6 ounces... bundle o joy!!!!!!!!!!! | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | What should Jr.wear #23 or #75 | Thu Jan 06 1994 10:37 | 13 |
|
Happy to announce that......
Mark Matthew Jr. was born at 5:45 January 4th. :-)
(Chappy II) :-)
Mother and son is totally healthy.
And we watched our first Sportscenter together last night!!! :-)
Chappy.....
|
46.314 | | CSC32::M_MACGREGOR | | Thu Jan 06 1994 11:43 | 10 |
|
>"What should Jr. wear #23 or #75
My choice would be #75 8^)
Congradulations, hopefully he will grow up to be an outstanding citizen
and root for the Raiders too.
Marc
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46.315 | Congrats Chappy I and II! | CTHQ::LEARY | Corporate Telecom Technology Solutions | Thu Jan 06 1994 11:58 | 1 |
|
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46.316 | Congrats Chap! | CSTEAM::FARLEY | | Thu Jan 06 1994 12:55 | 1 |
|
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46.317 | Congrats Chappy | CTHQ::MCCULLOUGH | Lindsey is four years old!!!! | Thu Jan 06 1994 13:56 | 3 |
| Get used to being awake for Sportscenter...
The 2AM one.
|
46.318 | | GWEN::ASHE | Detriot(tm) Lions: 1993 NFC Cent. Champs | Thu Jan 06 1994 13:56 | 4 |
| wouldn't he wear 16, Dwight Gooden's number?
congrats...
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46.319 | | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | Mark Matthew Jr. 6lbs 6 ounces. | Thu Jan 06 1994 14:23 | 7 |
|
Not unless Yoseff's been around my house about 9 months ago?? :-)
Chap
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46.320 | | USCTR1::KING | | Thu Jan 06 1994 14:44 | 4 |
| Congrats Chappy... Too bad about the name though.... :-}
REK
|
46.321 | | METSNY::francus | NY Mets/NY Jets, both TRULY SUCK!!!! | Thu Jan 06 1994 15:03 | 5 |
| congrats Chappy!
#16 does sound good.
The Crazy Met
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46.322 | | GENRAL::WADE | | Thu Jan 06 1994 15:04 | 7 |
|
No way he could be a good citizen AND root for the Raiders. The
two are mutually exclusive! :*)
Congrats Chappy!
Claybone
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46.323 | | PATE::MACNEAL | ruck `n' roll | Thu Jan 06 1994 16:42 | 3 |
| Just what this world needs -- another Raider/Yankee fan .... NOT!
Congrats anyway Chappy.
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46.324 | | CSC32::GAULKE | | Thu Jan 06 1994 16:43 | 9 |
|
Make sure to get Silver and Black diapers, since that is
the only thing those colors are good for.
Congratulations.
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46.325 | | CSOA1::BACH | They who know nothing, doubt nothing... | Thu Jan 06 1994 17:25 | 7 |
| Its O.K. we sent Vince Evans over long ago to inject subliminal
suggestions that make all Raider fans closet Bear Fans... The
young Chap has a chance!
Congrats.
Chip
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46.326 | | PTOVAX::JACOB | Bearded once again | Thu Jan 06 1994 18:35 | 17 |
|
>> <<< Note 46.319 by WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M "Mark Matthew Jr. 6lbs 6 ounces." >>>
>> Not unless Yoseff's been around my house about 9 months ago?? :-)
Yoseff I wouldn't believe, but if'n ya told me it looks sorta like
--dan'l, I'd damn well believe that.
(8^)*
Congrats alla yer family
JaKe
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46.327 | | QUASER::JACKSONTA | Babe Hockey | Thu Jan 06 1994 20:13 | 8 |
| Congrats!
And what Claybone said!
And don't force your kid to being a faids fan. Let him make his own
choice...
Tim
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46.328 | | PATE::MACNEAL | ruck `n' roll | Thu Jan 06 1994 20:20 | 2 |
| He lives in New England, let him choose accordingly. The sins of the
father should not be forced on the son.
|
46.329 | at least make sure he's a Celtics fan | FRETZ::HEISER | no, I'm very, very shy | Thu Jan 06 1994 20:35 | 4 |
| > He lives in New England, let him choose accordingly. The sins of the
> father should not be forced on the son.
exactly why I don't root for Detroit teams.
|
46.330 | | GWEN::ASHE | Detriot(tm) Lions: 1993 NFC Cent. Champs | Thu Jan 06 1994 21:25 | 2 |
| At least you'd be able to claim a couple of champeenships that way...
|
46.331 | I think I have this right | METSNY::francus | NY Mets/NY Jets, both TRULY SUCK!!!! | Thu Jan 06 1994 21:32 | 7 |
| Of course he could also end up like Mike Paciello who roots for the:
Yankees,Dolphins,76ers,Canadians
and still lives in NE.
The Crazy Met
|
46.332 | | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | Mark Matthew Jr. 6lbs 6 ounces. | Fri Jan 07 1994 11:28 | 14 |
|
No I'll give him the choice of either loving the Yanks and Raiders
or getting OUT!!!!!!! :-)
He's already got 2 pinstripe outfits and a S+B outfit on the
way. Plus when I mentioned Wade Boggs name yesterday he spit up so he's
well on the way.
Chappy
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46.333 | 8^) | CTHQ::LEARY | Corporate Telecom Technology Solutions | Fri Jan 07 1994 12:08 | 5 |
| when my nephew gits done wif his ND outfits in a year, I'll forward
them to ya Chappy. Then he'll be a fan of a REAL righteous institution.
MikeL
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46.334 | | QUASER::JACKSONTA | Babe Hockey | Fri Jan 07 1994 12:20 | 9 |
| Speaking of spitting up, hopefully Hoss will do that with the ball
this weekend. He had to much time last week, and that must change if
the BRONCOS want to win.
I'm sure Elway won't get as good of protection as he had last week.
The OL has been to inconsistent to give him 2 great weeks in a row
against one of (if not) the best DL in the NFL. I hope I'm wrong...
Tim
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46.335 | | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | Mark Matthew Jr. 6lbs 6 ounces. | Fri Jan 07 1994 12:24 | 12 |
|
Mike he came out with a red streak in his hair doing the tomahawk
chop. Even he knew who was #1. :-)
Look for Hoss to have another great game. And for Elway to get
pressured alot more.
Chappy
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46.336 | | FRETZ::HEISER | no, I'm very, very shy | Fri Jan 07 1994 14:11 | 4 |
| > At least you'd be able to claim a couple of champeenships that way...
Walt, the Celtics won more titles than Detroit in the '80s in the only
sport that counts in my house.
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46.337 | | GWEN::ASHE | Detriot(tm) Lions: 1993 NFC Cent. Champs | Fri Jan 07 1994 14:13 | 2 |
| No Tigers?
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46.338 | | FRETZ::HEISER | no, I'm very, very shy | Fri Jan 07 1994 14:17 | 1 |
| Both my boys had Celtics t-shirts on the day they were born.
|
46.339 | | MSE1::FRANCUS | NY Mets/NY Jets, both TRULY SUCK!!!! | Fri Jan 07 1994 14:30 | 7 |
| and not the gals?? Mikey, Mikey, Mikey how sexist :-)
I think my nephews have outgrown their Mets outfits. Special delivery
to Chappy comin' right up.
The Crazy Met
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46.340 | | FRETZ::HEISER | no, I'm very, very shy | Fri Jan 07 1994 14:38 | 1 |
| Not sexist, they're not into sports too much.
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46.341 | | MSE1::FRANCUS | NY Mets/NY Jets, both TRULY SUCK!!!! | Fri Jan 07 1994 14:41 | 4 |
| MikeH you said the day they were born. I'm sure you knew then :-)
The Crazy met
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46.342 | | CSC32::M_MACGREGOR | | Fri Jan 07 1994 16:20 | 6 |
|
Hey Claybone, where are you and the other (sorry) Bronco fans going to
watch the game. Maybe we can have a western version of the sports get
together.
Marc
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46.343 | | GENRAL::WADE | | Fri Jan 07 1994 17:13 | 8 |
|
What? Me be seen with a Raider fan? Shirley you jest! :*)
I'll be at home with my nose in my Circuit Analysis II book.
At least one eye will be on the TV though. Tim might be
able to make a get together though.....NOT!
Claybone
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46.344 | | FRETZ::HEISER | no, I'm very, very shy | Fri Jan 07 1994 17:29 | 3 |
| > MikeH you said the day they were born. I'm sure you knew then :-)
exactly. I have these amazing powers that I don't like to talk about.
|
46.345 | | MSE1::FRANCUS | NY Mets/NY Jets, both TRULY SUCK!!!! | Fri Jan 07 1994 17:47 | 4 |
| does that also include speaking in tongues?
The Crazy met
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46.346 | | QUASER::JACKSONTA | Babe Hockey | Fri Jan 07 1994 18:34 | 1 |
| I'm busy.
|
46.347 | | CSC32::GAULKE | | Fri Jan 07 1994 18:44 | 7 |
|
Have a race that morning, and have a family the rest
of the weekend...
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46.348 | | FRETZ::HEISER | no, I'm very, very shy | Fri Jan 07 1994 18:49 | 1 |
| TCM, the bailiff is gonna get ya if ya keep talkin like that.
|
46.349 | Prediction::L.A 17.DEN 21. | WMOIS::MAZURKA | Son_Of_Fabio | Sun Jan 09 1994 00:05 | 6 |
| Chap..
I know you and Chap_Stick Jr. will be watchin the L.A vs Denver game
Tammarra... Please don't Spike the Kid when The Broncos win. :_)
Crazy_Can't_Wait_To_See_Marky_Mark_Jr._Al
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46.355 | We are the Silver we are the black...... | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | Mark Matthew Jr. 6lbs 6 ounces. | Mon Jan 10 1994 13:47 | 10 |
|
Bahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
There are only 3 guarantees in life Murph. DEATH,TAXES and
3 o"clock Feedings. :-)
Chap
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46.356 | | LAGUNA::MAY_BR | All products 100% buzzword compliant | Mon Jan 10 1994 14:11 | 2 |
|
who's deleting the notes?
|
46.357 | | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | Mark Matthew Jr. 6lbs 6 ounces. | Mon Jan 10 1994 14:17 | 13 |
|
I know a couple are mine?
BTW I believe a couple guys need to go eat some lunch in note
50.??????
Lets go guys, in LA we eat it raw? ;-)
Chap
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46.358 | | CAMONE::WAY | Horseshoes and hand-grenades, man | Mon Jan 10 1994 14:28 | 6 |
| We had some disk space problems over the weekend, so any notes written
before I took a chance and deleted some stuff on this disk this morning
didn't make it into the file, although entries for them did....
'Saw
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46.359 | I hope the Browns took some notes! | SUBPAC::WHITEHAIR | BILL MUST GO! | Mon Jan 10 1994 15:07 | 7 |
|
It was great watching the Bronkos go down! Good Job Raiders!!!
I'd like to see the Raiders kick some butt next weekend!
hw
|
46.360 | ph and of course Dallas - long shot though | METSNY::francus | NY Mets/NY Jets, both TRULY SUCK!!!! | Mon Jan 10 1994 15:24 | 4 |
| 2 sets of obnoxious fans silenced for now: Broncos and Steelers.
Next week: Raider fans.
The Crazy Met
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46.361 | Jets sip | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | Mark Matthew Jr. 6lbs 6 ounces. | Mon Jan 10 1994 15:53 | 9 |
|
But at least them Donk and Steeler fans had a chance to be
obnoxious cuz their teams were in the playoffs. Unlike the noise coming
out of Jetland and Brownland.
Chappy
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46.362 | Donks a different story | FRETZ::HEISER | no, I'm very, very shy | Mon Jan 10 1994 16:02 | 1 |
| I don't think the Steeler fans in here are obnoxious.
|
46.363 | | DECWET::METZGER | Sleep deprivation is a good thing... | Mon Jan 10 1994 16:07 | 7 |
|
In a way I'm bummed...I would have like to have seen a Buffalo - Denver matchup
to see who gets to go to the Super Bowl and get blown out...
Denver is only good at home...
Metz
|
46.364 | | MKFSA::LONG | 7 more months and he's all yours | Mon Jan 10 1994 19:37 | 9 |
| >>2 sets of obnoxious fans silenced for now: Broncos and Steelers.
>>Next week: Raider fans.
>>
>>The Crazy Met
Pot calling the kettle black there, TC*?
billl
|
46.365 | | METSNY::francus | Pitt Bucs/Steelers, both TRULY SUCK!!!! | Mon Jan 10 1994 20:27 | 3 |
| whatever. still nice to see the Steelscum lose.
The Crazy Met
|
46.366 | | PTOVAX::JACOB | | Mon Jan 10 1994 21:10 | 6 |
| TC*, kwit yer damned gloating, yer making us sick.
At least the STEELERS were there, and played a good game.
JaKe
|
46.367 | | MSE1::FRANCUS | Mets in '94 | Mon Jan 10 1994 22:34 | 4 |
| watssa matter JaKe, can't take it when the shoe is on the other foot??
The Crazy Met
|
46.368 | should a won... | SALEM::STIG | | Tue Jan 11 1994 11:49 | 3 |
| i think the steelers should a won... elway is incredible though.
stig
|
46.369 | | GENRAL::WADE | | Tue Jan 11 1994 13:01 | 5 |
|
Hey! I'm a Donk fan and I'm not obnoxious. I'm a jerk. Get
it straight!
Claybone
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46.370 | Thanks for the laugh there TCM | QUASER::JACKSONTA | Babe Hockey | Tue Jan 11 1994 13:19 | 7 |
| re- .360
A New Yorker talking about other people being obnoxious? In some
cases maybe, but for the most part, NY still owns that dubious
honor(-)
Tim
|
46.371 | | METSNY::francus | Mets in '94 | Tue Jan 11 1994 14:43 | 8 |
| When it comes to sports teams NY'ers don't have a lock on being
obnoxious. Anyways with NY its part of the cities character and
greatness; with other cities it is just a pathetic display of
bad manners.
HtH,
The Crazy Met
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46.372 | -1, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, dat's precious | CTHQ::LEARY | Corporate Telecom Technology Solutions | Tue Jan 11 1994 15:37 | 1 |
|
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46.373 | | PATE::MACNEAL | ruck `n' roll | Tue Jan 11 1994 16:00 | 2 |
| Dennis Faust is well know for his corollary to Will Roger's remark.
Dennis never met an official he liked.
|
46.374 | | ELMAGO::BENBACA | NO more raises and a 30% paycut | Tue Jan 11 1994 16:03 | 5 |
| >> Dennis never met an official he liked.
And when it involves the Iggles he "turns the game off"
:-)
|
46.375 | | QUASER::JACKSONTA | Babe Hockey | Tue Jan 11 1994 17:03 | 4 |
| TCM,
How do you get greatness out of being obnoxious? I won't argue with
it being the charactor of NY city...
|
46.376 | look at the cause, not the symptom | METSNY::francus | Mets in '94 | Tue Jan 11 1994 19:54 | 6 |
| Part of an agressiveness that makes it a town that is always on the
go, at the forefront of new technology and development. You may not
like that kind of a place, but that is what makes it a world class
city.
The Crazy Met
|
46.377 | Go Raiders, put Buffalo out of their misery! | FRETZ::HEISER | no, I'm very, very shy | Tue Jan 11 1994 20:25 | 1 |
|
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46.378 | | GRANPA::DFAUST | Bad Things, man... | Tue Jan 11 1994 20:48 | 16 |
| re: cheap shots
If I remember correctly what I wrote (and I went back and looked at
it), I said the Raiders probably would have won yesterday. If you
didn't think the officiating in that game was awful, you need to
examine the rule book.
and to MtFM, there are a few officials I like, just not the ones that
leave the seeing eye dogs on the sidelines. Based on your comment at
me, I suppose you endorse players in street clothes coming off the
bench to get into fights, taunting, and blown pass interfernece calls.
I guess the years of being a Patsie fan have ruined your appreciation
of what football should be.
Dennis Faust
|
46.379 | | PTOVAX::JACOB | | Tue Jan 11 1994 20:56 | 8 |
| >>I guess the years of being a Patsie fan have ruined your appreciation
>>of what football should be.
Candidate for "Line of the Year". It's got my vote.
JaKe
|
46.380 | | MSE1::FRANCUS | Mets in '94 | Tue Jan 11 1994 23:36 | 4 |
| and it's only January.
The Crazy Met
|
46.381 | | PATE::MACNEAL | ruck `n' roll | Wed Jan 12 1994 13:23 | 6 |
46.382 | | GRANPA::DFAUST | Bad Things, man... | Wed Jan 12 1994 13:47 | 8 |
| Based on your comment, unless it was just a personal attack against me,
I inferred that you thought the officiating in the Bronco game was
hunky dorey. That would men that you agreed with the events that I
listed. Pretty simple for one with a logical mind. I could see why
you're having a difficult time with it.
Dennis Faust
|
46.383 | <zing!> | CSTEAM::FARLEY | | Wed Jan 12 1994 14:04 | 1 |
|
|
46.384 | | PATE::MACNEAL | ruck `n' roll | Wed Jan 12 1994 14:04 | 2 |
| Nothing personal Dennis. Just an observation based on your comments
about officiating over the years.
|
46.385 | | LAGUNA::MAY_BR | JWBobbit&DSmith-BothComeUpALittleShort | Wed Jan 12 1994 16:47 | 8 |
| > <<< Note 46.373 by PATE::MACNEAL "ruck `n' roll" >>>
> Dennis Faust is well know for his corollary to Will Roger's remark.
> Dennis never met an official he liked.
Not quite true, Mac. I'm sure Dennis loved the refs that gave Philly
the first Cardinal game.
boC
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46.386 | | MKFSA::LONG | 7 more months and he's all yours | Wed Jan 12 1994 17:37 | 4 |
| Brew, where do you come up with these p-names? That one's hilarious!
billl
|
46.387 | | PTOVAX::JACOB | | Wed Jan 12 1994 19:21 | 7 |
| D. Faust 2
MACNEAL 0
If yer keeping score at home
JaKe
|
46.388 | impossible, Mac's always right | FRETZ::HEISER | it ain't me | Wed Jan 12 1994 19:58 | 1 |
|
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46.389 | | MSE1::FRANCUS | Mets in '94 | Wed Jan 12 1994 23:01 | 4 |
| MikeH has been smoking the same thing JD has :-)
The Crazy Met
|
46.390 | | LAGUNA::MAY_BR | JWBobbit&DSmith-BothComeUpALittleShort | Fri Jan 14 1994 15:11 | 9 |
| > Brew, where do you come up with these p-names? That one's hilarious!
>billl
/er gave me that P_name, which I proudly wear as a result of a P_name
bet that I wanted to lose. Kinda a long story.
brews
|
46.391 | | MSE1::FRANCUS | Mets in '94 | Fri Jan 14 1994 15:59 | 4 |
| took 'ya long enough to start using the p_name.
The Crazy Met
|
46.392 | | MSE1::FRANCUS | Mets in '94 | Sat Jan 15 1994 21:34 | 9 |
|
One more set of obnoxious fans gone.
Hoping for a major Green Bay miracle tomorrow.
Too bad about the Jints.
The Crazy Met
|
46.393 | your better than the Giants & Green Bay | PACKER::WHITEHAIR | BILL MUST GO! | Mon Jan 17 1994 10:37 | 5 |
|
Tough luck Raider fans. I was hopping you would pull it out.
Can't stand the bills.
hw
|
46.394 | Shall we not!!!! | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | Mark Matthew Jr. 6lbs 6 ounces. | Thu Jan 27 1994 18:59 | 6 |
|
Quick alltime Raider Team.
Chap
|
46.395 | | ELMAGO::BENBACA | I've lost it. Help me find it! | Thu Jan 27 1994 19:01 | 1 |
| Thank gawd!
|
46.396 | Next stop Canton Ohio... | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | Hall of Fame #75 | Fri Jan 28 1994 11:56 | 9 |
|
It is with great regret I announce that Howie Long has retired
effective after the Pro Bowl. He is the last active player tie to the
old Oakland Raider glory days.
Chappy
|
46.397 | | CAMONE::WAY | Horseshoes and hand-grenades, man | Fri Jan 28 1994 11:59 | 8 |
| I was never what I'd call a Raider "fan"... I'd watch them, and
root for them a lot, but I wasn't a fan per se.
I always liked Howie Long. One helluva competitor and pretty
cool too.....
Gonna miss him....
'Saw
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46.398 | Great career, Howie... | CTHQ::MCCULLOUGH | Lindsey is four years old!!!! | Fri Jan 28 1994 12:28 | 0 |
46.399 | | ZEKE::SAIA | R.I.P. AMA/CCS #235 | Fri Jan 28 1994 12:29 | 4 |
|
He's a Townie to boot !
|
46.400 | Before the yuppies moved in... | CTHQ::MCCULLOUGH | Lindsey is four years old!!!! | Fri Jan 28 1994 12:37 | 3 |
46.401 | | CAMONE::WAY | Horseshoes and hand-grenades, man | Fri Jan 28 1994 12:51 | 8 |
| Who was it in this file that got his ass run over by Howie
playing HS football?
I know it was a regular SPORTS noter, and he mentioned it
at one point....
'saw
|
46.402 | | CTHQ::MCCULLOUGH | Lindsey is four years old!!!! | Fri Jan 28 1994 13:18 | 4 |
46.403 | | GENRAL::WADE | | Fri Jan 28 1994 13:38 | 5 |
|
Is that anything like Kelly Stouffer knocking 'Saw on his
platestacker?
Claybone
|
46.404 | | CAMONE::WAY | Horseshoes and hand-grenades, man | Fri Jan 28 1994 14:51 | 9 |
| > Is that anything like Kelly Stouffer knocking 'Saw on his
> platestacker?
Nah, you got that backwards -- axe JD....
No Bob, there was someone in here, I'm pretty sure, who played against
Howie Long.
I could be wrong, but I don't think so....
|
46.405 | | ELMAGO::BENBACA | I've lost it. Help me find it! | Fri Jan 28 1994 15:46 | 2 |
| The only thing I remember about him is when he grabbed the Niner owner
and was getting ready to rip off his haid and S#$^ down his neck :-)
|
46.406 | 49er or pat owner? | AKOCOA::BREEN | A hot-rod Ford and a two dollar bill | Fri Jan 28 1994 16:25 | 2 |
| You're not thinking of Pat Sullivan's (Pat's owner's son) run in with
Howie and Matt Millen after Patriot victory in '86?
|
46.407 | | ELMAGO::BENBACA | I've lost it. Help me find it! | Fri Jan 28 1994 17:11 | 3 |
| I thought he went after Debartollo(sp) of the niners, anyway he went
after somebody. Just goes to show you how much I know about the
Raiders.
|
46.408 | I see TV in his future | FRETZ::HEISER | my kid beat up your honor student | Fri Jan 28 1994 17:12 | 1 |
| Howie would make a good commontater.
|
46.409 | | CTHQ::LEARY | Corporate Telecom Technology Solutions | Fri Jan 28 1994 18:21 | 10 |
| >> Howie would make a good commontater.
^^^^^^^^^^^^
Lissen, we all know Howie's of Irish extraction, but is there any
need to call him a_average spud??
MikeL
|
46.410 | | PTOVAX::JACOB | prisoners here of our own device | Fri Jan 28 1994 19:06 | 9 |
|
>>Are you confusing that with me, who got my ass run over by Fred Smerlas?
bob, I hate to break this to ya, but with yer size, were he steel alive
Herve Villachez(sp?) could probably run yer ass over.
(8^)*
JaKe
|
46.411 | Maybe if I stood on Kev's shoulders... | CTHQ::MCCULLOUGH | Lindsey is four years old!!!! | Fri Jan 28 1994 19:29 | 4 |
46.412 | | PTOVAX::JACOB | prisoners here of our own device | Fri Jan 28 1994 19:30 | 4 |
| rolllllllward bob.
JaKe
|
46.413 | return of the Oakland Raiders | FRETZ::HEISER | Hey! Ho! Hey! Ho! Hey! Ho! Hey! Ho! | Thu Feb 03 1994 15:09 | 4 |
| The L.A. Coliseum has suffered severe damage from the earthquake and
has to be rebuilt. There's talk now that the Raiders will be moving
back to Oakland. I think this is good news. They haven't been the
same since they moved.
|
46.414 | | METSNY::francus | Reeves, Slasher & girly-mon football | Thu Feb 03 1994 15:15 | 7 |
| They did win one SB when they were in LA.
On Imus each morning ESPN has a sports minute. Keith Obermann (sp?) did
the one this morning and went through the list of places that Al Davis
has moved or talked about moving the Raiders. Very long list, quite funny.
The Crazy Met
|
46.415 | | CAM3::WAY | Horseshoes and hand-grenades, man | Thu Feb 03 1994 15:18 | 24 |
| >On Imus each morning ESPN has a sports minute. Keith Obermann (sp?) did
>the one this morning and went through the list of places that Al Davis
>has moved or talked about moving the Raiders. Very long list, quite funny.
Bo Deedle had me laughing so hard this morning I almost drove off the
road.
Earlier, when he first came into the studio, he started talking about
sports and saying that the only thing that was important was the spreads,
never mind who won.
And he also said that if he'd been hired by Tonya Harding, he'd have done
the job right -- by whacking Kerrigan a few times, not just once. He said
the guy they hired should have given the retainer back.
Finally, they decided that the cast of the TV movie about it would
have Gilbert Gottfried as Jeff Gilooly and Mike Francesa as Shawn Eckert...
I think they should move the Raiders into a trailer park in Oregon, just
so that I'm on track with this note....8^)
'Saw
|
46.416 | | FRETZ::HEISER | Hey! Ho! Hey! Ho! Hey! Ho! Hey! Ho! | Thu Feb 03 1994 15:19 | 2 |
| Yeah the local version of WFAN (KNNS) also carries those commentaries.
I'm surprised people still let Brent Musberger near a mic.
|
46.417 | | HANNAH::ASHE | Sit down, you're rockin' the boat | Tue Feb 08 1994 01:54 | 2 |
| The only talk about going to Oakland is from Oakland...
|
46.418 | | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | What a terrible year 1918 | Mon Aug 08 1994 15:37 | 6 |
|
Raiders beat Dallas 27-19 :-)
Chap
|
46.419 | | ELMAGO::BENBACA | No QUANTUM leap for Albuquerque! | Mon Aug 22 1994 13:50 | 1 |
| Doesn't count
|
46.420 | help me pick my seat!!! | AIMHI::CORRIGAN | | Wed Sep 21 1994 20:37 | 13 |
|
any of you Raider fans out there know where I can get seating info
for the LA Coliseum? I am going to be going to DECUS in December
and want to get a ticket for the 12/11 Raiders-Bronco game. I was
told there are some $42 seats avail. Are all the $42 seats good?!?
Anything on line I could print out would be great.
Thanx,
Joe
DTN 264-4304 x4107
|
46.421 | Raiders by 14 come Sunday!!!!!!!!!!! | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | What a terrible year 1918 | Fri Oct 07 1994 13:30 | 9 |
|
BTW,
Hadn't had the time to mention this earlier this week but, YES THE
PATS WILL BE BROUGHT DOWN TO EARTH THIS WEEKEND. And their fan
proclaimed god of a QB will be intercepted 3 times.
Chap
|
46.422 | | HELIX::MAIEWSKI | | Fri Oct 07 1994 13:32 | 8 |
| The Raiders will get ground into hamburger.
They'll be getting psyched for the post game fight with the GM which won't
happen and they'll forget to play the game.
Another close win for the PATS.
George
|
46.423 | Raiders 38 Pats 24 | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | What a terrible year 1918 | Fri Oct 07 1994 13:35 | 12 |
|
.............ground into hamburger.
Thats original.
George, who would be the bigger star in Drews backfield? OJ or
Jim Brown?
Thats not what Tommy said?
Chap :-)
|
46.424 | | HELIX::MAIEWSKI | | Fri Oct 07 1994 13:41 | 5 |
| This is football, you don't have to be original.
PATS 34, RAIDERS 27.
George
|
46.425 | I'll still go pname w/ no points are ya man enough | AD::HEATH | It'll be Oct soon and Butch will be gone | Fri Oct 07 1994 14:09 | 8 |
|
Chappy....
Are you willing to back that "by 14" nonsense up? If you are just let
me know. I'd went at it with no points but sense your offerin.....
Jerry
|
46.426 | | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | What a terrible year 1918 | Fri Oct 07 1994 14:18 | 11 |
|
Jerry Jerry Jerry,
Me being the gambler I am even though I am extremely confident
in my team, would be a fool to make ANY KIND OF BET w/o the just pts I
deserve. Now if'n you wanna lay the 3 maybe somethingggg can be worked
out? If not NEXT.
chap
|
46.427 | Raiders slightly below average team | MIMS::ROLLINS_R | | Fri Oct 07 1994 14:22 | 2 |
| I guess that means NO, he is not, and that he knows he's just
spouting off.
|
46.428 | Cluck, cluck, cluck...... | CNTROL::CHILDS | She was a TWO-Bagger | Fri Oct 07 1994 14:23 | 1 |
|
|
46.430 | Karen, I think they call that a chicken cage | 25022::BREEN | | Fri Oct 07 1994 14:53 | 1 |
|
|
46.431 | Now if you wanna choke a chicken????? | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | What a terrible year 1918 | Fri Oct 07 1994 14:58 | 7 |
|
Just covering all angles. I think these P_name bets are stupid
anyways? Home field advantage is worth at least 3?
Chap
|
46.432 | | HANNAH::ASHE | I feeel so good... | Fri Oct 07 1994 15:45 | 2 |
| Chap hanging out in /Don's office?
|
46.433 | Shoulda know. | AD::HEATH | It'll be Oct soon and Butch will be gone | Fri Oct 07 1994 15:51 | 8 |
|
Well Chappy if I didn't know better I'd swear you were from
Cleveland. But I'll tell ya what see'n the spread is 3 I'll
give you 2 1/2 and take the push thats the best I can do. Ya
up for it????
Jerry
|
46.434 | Hmmm | BSS::MENDEZ | | Fri Oct 07 1994 16:01 | 6 |
| Hey Jerry...You must be on a mission to dig up the chickens in the
sprots bar. Found a couple in cleveland and one in LA...Where
ya headed to next?????
Frank
|
46.435 | :-) | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | What a terrible year 1918 | Fri Oct 07 1994 16:02 | 12 |
|
Sure why not,
Got to keep the P_name all week, got to enter AT LEAST 1 note
in here a day and must say at least 1 good thing about Raider/Pats
fans.
YES/NO
Chap
|
46.436 | Yankee Stadium...Mistake on the lake east???? | AD::HEATH | It'll be Oct soon and Butch will be gone | Fri Oct 07 1994 17:26 | 5 |
|
Cool....your on.
Jerry
|
46.437 | Maybe nexted year... Huh? | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | What a terrible year 1918 | Mon Oct 10 1994 12:07 | 26 |
|
A few Tidbits from yesterdays game.....
1. Raiders gave Drew Bledsoe a game ball yesterday!
2. Parcells has been in contact with Al Davis all night. He's been
trying to acquire Terry McDaniel all night, seeing he is Drew Bledsoe's
favorite receiver.
3. While we are on Bledsoe, I hear they are now putting his bronzed
statue in Canton in the closet for at least a couple more weeks.
4. I saw Parcells on rte 2 this morning I said "Bill what are you
looking for" he replied. "My running game".
5. Massachusetts General Hospital made an announcement that they have
got a large spike of ankle injuries reported throughout the state. It
seems everyone jumping off the bandwagon have been crashing into the
curb?????
More later. :-)
chap
|
46.438 | | SCOONE::MCCULLOUGH | Hakuna Matata - means no worries... | Mon Oct 10 1994 12:24 | 12 |
| It's not my style to bad-mouth or diss an opponenant of
the teams I root for (unlike a certain Raider/Yankee
fan), so let me say this aobut the Raiders:
Hostedler (sp?) is the real deal. I was never too
impressed with him before, but I'd have to say he
is at his peak right now. He's beren in the league
long enough that he has a terrific feel for the game,
but he is still young enough that his abilities have
not sarted to deteriorate.
=Bob=
|
46.439 | | CAMONE::WAY | Models caskets for D'Esopo's | Mon Oct 10 1994 12:27 | 9 |
| I think Hoss is 33.
I didn't see the game. My main gripe with Hoss was that he didn't display
any leadership ability when he was on the Giants. But I will say that the
change of team probably did him good. He definitely appears to be the
leader of the Raiders offense....
'Saw
|
46.440 | Sob,Sob,BooooooHoooooooo...................... | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | What a terrible year 1918 | Mon Oct 10 1994 12:27 | 3 |
|
Now that hurt
|
46.441 | Running game needs someone, something... anything... | EDWIN::WAUGAMAN | | Mon Oct 10 1994 12:57 | 19 |
|
Yeah, Bledsoe had something of a dog of a game, by recent standards.
It wasn't disastrous, though; he still composed himself enough to
bring the Pats back to a position that at one point looked as if it
would be insurmountable, until that goal-line fumble (thank god for all
the Raider penalties before that, though; I have no idea what Parcells
was thinking about running the ball on 3rd-and-goal from the 6, etc.).
This running-game problem has reached critical mass. Now that that's
been established in the defenses' minds the pass blocking is breaking
down, too.
I'm not completely sure I understand the comments about Hostetler,
though. He was chucking the ball up for grabs on numerous occasions,
too. The game was a fairly ugly affair all-around. The Raiders sure
don't look like the pre-season "AFC Super Bowl-favorite" they were made
out to be...
glenn
|
46.442 | | SCOONE::MCCULLOUGH | Hakuna Matata - means no worries... | Mon Oct 10 1994 12:58 | 4 |
|
| Now that hurt
Yea, I forgot what a sensitive guy you are...
|
46.443 | I loved saying that last line | 25022::BREEN | | Mon Oct 10 1994 13:56 | 16 |
|
The Raiders have learned a tactic perfected by the knicks: That refs
use metrics on number of fouls and the more fouls called then the more
you can hold and grab etc because the likelihood is the refs don't want
the metrics to reflect to badly on one team.
So what I'm saying is that game could have had 30 Raider penalties.
Also, by having a lot of penalties called it puts a mental block in the
minds of the refs to try to give the team a break. So when Turner laid
the ball over the goal line for the td the line judge anaccountably
froze.
But to give the Raiders credit in the last 5 minutes they were BC and
the PATS were Notre Dame (in terms of line play dominance).
Billte
|
46.444 | | CAMONE::WAY | Models caskets for D'Esopo's | Mon Oct 10 1994 14:00 | 26 |
| > The Raiders have learned a tactic perfected by the knicks: That refs
> use metrics on number of fouls and the more fouls called then the more
> you can hold and grab etc because the likelihood is the refs don't want
> the metrics to reflect to badly on one team.
>
> So what I'm saying is that game could have had 30 Raider penalties.
> Also, by having a lot of penalties called it puts a mental block in the
> minds of the refs to try to give the team a break. So when Turner laid
> the ball over the goal line for the td the line judge anaccountably
> froze.
One thing I learned from my rugby experience was how to test a ref.
Early in the game, I'd commit a foul -- nothing that would cost the team
points if possible -- usually something inocuous, like barging in a
lineout or something like that. If he caught it and called it I wouldn't
do anymore. If he didn't call it, I'd progressively try to see how much
more I could get away with.
I think it's like that in football too. If you're a lineman, and hold and
not get caught, then you'll keep on holding till you do get caught, I'd
bet....
'Saw
|
46.445 | Wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | What a terrible year 1918 | Mon Oct 10 1994 14:14 | 14 |
|
I knew somebody would be bitchin about the refs today so here goes.
The officiating was bad, but it was bad for both teams. Andrew
Glover did not use anyone to propel him up to try and block that FG.He
landed on someone but noone helped him. Turner's fumble was a TD, but
his first TD wasn't he never broke the plane. Raiders were screwed just
as bad as the Pats, but looking throught RW and Blue glasses, I guess
you'd see it that way!
Chap
|
46.446 | | HANNAH::ASHE | Once, there was this boy who, went to Singapore | Mon Oct 10 1994 14:16 | 2 |
| Hostetler fumbled that pass they called incomplete on that hit too..
|
46.447 | | DELNI::CRITZ | Scott Critz, LKG2/1, Pole V3 | Mon Oct 10 1994 14:26 | 8 |
| RE: 46.446
I sure saw it that way, too. His arm had not started to move
forward.
Lots of bad calls.
Scott
|
46.448 | Glad to see Leroy Thompson to well! | MKFSA::LONG | Strive for five! | Mon Oct 10 1994 16:04 | 17 |
| >>Andrew Glover did not use anyone to propel him up to try and
>>block that FG.
That's true, but that was not the infraction. The way it was
explained to me was that you are not allowed to jump in the air then
land on top of the pile, which he did. I'm not saying it's not a
stupid rule, but it is a rule and he did violate it.
I watched 90% of the game and I knew which ever team lost its fans
would be blamming[sic] the refs. Each team had some mirage calls made
for them, as well as against them.
And to think these same officals were threatening to strike for
higher pay. You got ta earn it first!
billl
|
46.449 | | CAMONE::WAY | Models caskets for D'Esopo's | Mon Oct 10 1994 16:30 | 16 |
| >
> And to think these same officals were threatening to strike for
> higher pay. You got ta earn it first!
>
This is the second week I've heard about a poorly officated game. Does
anyone know if this is the same crew that worked the NY Giants-Saints game
last weekend?
Lately, it seems that the officiating is suffering some quality problems, and
Jerry Seeman, instead of bearing down, has been making excuses for them.
The excuse he made after the unsportsmanlike call on Calloway last week seemed
weak at best....
'Saw
|
46.450 | | MKFSA::LONG | Strive for five! | Mon Oct 10 1994 16:36 | 8 |
| >>Does anyone know if this is the same crew that worked the
>>NY Giants-Saints game last weekend?
Unless I'm mistaken, they move around independently and don't always
work with the same crew week after week.
billl
|
46.451 | | CAMONE::WAY | Models caskets for D'Esopo's | Mon Oct 10 1994 16:42 | 9 |
| > Unless I'm mistaken, they move around independently and don't always
> work with the same crew week after week.
Perhaps I was thinking of umpiring crews in baseball.
Jeez, where's Hendry when you need him?????
'Saw
|
46.452 | Anybody got the real facks... | WLW::TURCOTTE | Thank goodness for every wrong move | Mon Oct 10 1994 17:41 | 14 |
|
As I understand it, the football offcials *do* stick to the same
crew all year, they are "graded" after every game, via the game tape
and the officials with the highest grades for his position go on to
the playoffs (were they get bonus money). The playoff crews are kind
of an "allstar" official crew who have not worked much together.
But the regular season crews work together all year long, there may be
differnt crews for AFL / NFL, but I don't think so.
Anyway thats how I understand it.
Turk
|
46.453 | | MKFSA::LONG | Strive for five! | Mon Oct 10 1994 18:52 | 7 |
| >> -< Anybody got the real facks... >-
Wow! Are you in the wrong place!
billl
|
46.454 | everybody acts like they know what they talk about | WLW::TURCOTTE | Thank goodness for every wrong move | Tue Oct 11 1994 03:13 | 7 |
|
>> Wow! Are you in the wrong place!
I gave it a shot....
Turk
|
46.455 | | PTOS02::JACOBR | Red Dust and Spanish Lace | Mon Dec 05 1994 18:28 | 9 |
| Hey, I'm not jumping on the bandwagon fer the Faiders, but I will be
rooting fer them tonight to live down to their reputation, cheapshot
the hell out of the dis-Chargers, and hurt them so bad that they never
recover this season.
Go Faiders!!!
JaKe
|
46.456 | | ROCK::GRONOWSKI | the dream is always the same... | Mon Dec 05 1994 18:29 | 4 |
46.457 | | PTOS02::JACOBR | Red Dust and Spanish Lace | Mon Dec 05 1994 18:31 | 13 |
| Hey Groaner, don't root too much fer the Chargers, they'll be the ones
to make the 'Spots have a long ride home with their tails between their
legs once playoff time comes around, that is, IF the 'Spots make the
playoffs.
BTW, if things stay the way they are RIGHT NOW, you'll be wearing a
nice p-name when ya comes back, make that, IF ya comes back, from the
Christmas holiday.
HAHAHAHAHA
JaKe
|
46.458 | | ROCK::GRONOWSKI | the dream is always the same... | Mon Dec 05 1994 18:31 | 2 |
46.459 | | PTOS02::JACOBR | Red Dust and Spanish Lace | Mon Dec 05 1994 18:34 | 5 |
| The one we made in mail about which team finishes in higher position in
the division.
JaKe
|
46.460 | Jack Tatum was just misunderstood!!! | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | Stabler>Bradshaw Tatum>Blount | Mon Dec 05 1994 18:36 | 3 |
|
Get out of 46 and get a room you two!!!
|
46.461 | | ROCK::GRONOWSKI | the dream is always the same... | Mon Dec 05 1994 18:47 | 3 |
46.462 | Among others... Hal (wisely) was nowhere to be seen on this | EDWIN::WAUGAMAN | | Mon Dec 05 1994 19:13 | 14 |
|
> pname bet, what pname bet?
<<< CAM::$1$DUA5:[NOTES$LIBRARY]SPORTS.NOTE;1 >>>
-< SPORTS >-
================================================================================
Note 32.991 **OFFICIAL** PITTSBURGH STEELER NOTE 991 of 1110
ROCK::GRONOWSKI "Dawgs RULE, Pats SIP!" 4 lines 15-NOV-1994 17:07
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Straight up bet pname bet for the division title... i'm in this one.
|
46.463 | | PTOS02::JACOBR | Red Dust and Spanish Lace | Mon Dec 05 1994 19:15 | 5 |
| Me and Groaner also made a P-name bet offline fer who finishes higher
in the division, made it about the end of September.
JaKe
|
46.464 | | FRETZ::HEISER | Grace changes everything | Mon Dec 05 1994 19:22 | 1 |
46.465 | Your Welcome Jake!!!!!!!! | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | Stabler>Bradshaw Tatum>Blount | Tue Dec 06 1994 10:38 | 4 |
|
MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
|
46.466 | | DELNI::CRITZ | Scott Critz, LKG2/1, Pole V3 | Tue Dec 06 1994 11:48 | 4 |
| Three "in the neutral zone" penalties on three consecutive
plays. Cryin' out loud.
Scott
|
46.467 | | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | Stabler>Bradshaw Tatum>Blount | Tue Dec 06 1994 11:51 | 5 |
|
JUst Win Baby!!!
|
46.468 | Can you say Officially eliminated!!!!!!!!!??? | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | Stabler>Bradshaw Tatum>Blount | Mon Dec 12 1994 13:38 | 10 |
|
Yep Yep Yep!!!
5 wins over our hated rivals in the past calender year!!! Donks
hug always have always will!!!!!
Chap
|
46.469 | | MSE1::FRANCUS | There is no joy in Mudville | Sun Dec 25 1994 03:14 | 5 |
| Wish part #1 has come true. Faiders lose and are out of the playoffs.
Chappy quiet for a while, kinda nice.
The Crazy Met
|
46.470 | Raider's | DELNI::FORGET | | Wed Jan 11 1995 16:51 | 6 |
|
last night on ESPN SportsCenter they report that Joe Bungle
(ex-Cardinal coach, NBC announcer) had lunch with Al Davis.
Also rumoured a shake up in the Raider's team.
|
46.471 | | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | Canes and Hoyas,Canes and Hoyas | Wed Jan 11 1995 16:55 | 4 |
|
Please fire Shell, Please!!!
|
46.472 | | CAMONE::WAY | Conspiring to make a mutiny... | Wed Jan 11 1995 16:59 | 10 |
| >
> Please fire Shell, Please!!!
>
Well, the rap on the Raiders, at least in the papers here in CT and on
WFAN as well as WTIC is that the Raiders are a team with good talent, but
that they are a very poorly coached team.
Could be that the Raiders will get a new coach.....
|
46.473 | | SNAX::ERICKSON | Time for Vacation... | Wed Jan 11 1995 17:10 | 7 |
|
How can the Raiders expect to win close games. When they
averaged 10 penaltys a game, A new NFL record. They dug so
many holes for themselves this year it wasn't funny. They must
have led the league in 1st and 20.
Ron
|
46.474 | | WLW::TURCOTTE | Thank goodness for every wrong move | Wed Jan 11 1995 17:51 | 7 |
|
I thought the ESPN spot said that Shell would be moved upstairs to
a corprate job, not fired, but "promoted", and that AL would get
replacement.
Turk
|
46.475 | Joe Bugel is better than Art Shell??? | CTHQ::MCCULLOUGH | Lindsey is FIVE!!! | Thu Jan 12 1995 12:28 | 0 |
46.476 | | CAMONE::WAY | Conspiring to make a mutiny... | Thu Jan 12 1995 12:59 | 7 |
| > -< Joe Bugel is better than Art Shell??? >-
There's probably some Raiders fans now who feel that ANYONE would be
better than Shell....
|
46.477 | big mistake, IMHO | OUTSRC::HEISER | Grace changes everything | Thu Jan 12 1995 15:03 | 1 |
46.478 | New Assist Coach | DELNI::FORGET | | Fri Jan 20 1995 10:59 | 4 |
|
LA Raiders named Joe Bugel Senior Assistant Coach & Offensive line
coach.
|
46.479 | sorry chap... | BSS::MENDEZ | | Fri Jan 20 1995 21:47 | 4 |
| wow how many assistant coaches is that. Few more and they will rival
Cleveland.... Did they get some new equipment too????
|
46.480 | | MSE1::FRANCUS | There is no joy in Mudville | Sat Jan 21 1995 21:02 | 5 |
| Soon they'll have so many coaching slots that they'll offer Chappy a
job.
The Crazy Met
|
46.481 | | BSS::NEUZIL | Just call me Fred | Thu Feb 02 1995 17:05 | 5 |
|
Art Shell has been canned.
Kevin
|
46.482 | Amen | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | jan 1, 279, 270 267.. 230 or bust!!!! | Thu Feb 02 1995 17:15 | 10 |
|
YES THERE IS A GOD AND HE SMILES OVER ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YAHHHHHHHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
YIPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEPPPEEEEEEEEEEEEE
WALKAWALKAWALKAWALKA
YUGGAYUGGAYUGGAYUGGA
|
46.483 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | UMass > UConn | Thu Feb 02 1995 17:45 | 6 |
| >> YES THERE IS A GOD AND HE SMILES OVER ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Maybe it's a payback for what he did to the Yankees' season. Then again
what he did probably saved you some misery. It certainly saved us some...
;^)
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46.484 | Just off the wire Chappy; Devil's playing his card | AKOCOA::BREEN | That is enough for me and for thee | Thu Feb 02 1995 18:42 | 1 |
| Rod Rust has been signed as new Raiders coach
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46.485 | | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | jan 1, 279, 270 267.. 230 or bust!!!! | Thu Feb 02 1995 19:19 | 5 |
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Doooooooooooooooop
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46.486 | Just kidding of course; just couldn't resist | AKOCOA::BREEN | That is enough for me and for thee | Thu Feb 02 1995 19:32 | 1 |
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46.487 | | CAMONE::WAY | Conspiring to make a mutiny... | Fri Feb 03 1995 12:35 | 10 |
| I don't know.
The new Raiders coach is one of the assistants.
The rap on the Raiders has consistently been "lots of talent, poorly coached".
With that in mind, why would they name one of the assistants? I would think
that they would have tried to take the time to find someone from the outside
who could re-vamp the coaching staff.
Any opinions?
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46.488 | | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | JAN,279,270,267,264.230 OR BUST | Fri Feb 03 1995 12:40 | 9 |
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New Coach is Mike White.
Former Off. Line coach!
Al likes staying in the family. Thats why he stayed within the org.
Chap
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46.489 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | UMass > UConn | Fri Feb 03 1995 12:46 | 7 |
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>> Al likes staying in the family. Thats why he stayed within the org.
No Al like having puppets who bow down to him...........
mike
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46.490 | White's name has come up as head coach material before | EDWIN::WAUGAMAN | | Fri Feb 03 1995 12:56 | 8 |
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It's not like Mike White is one of the Original Raiders or anything.
Not too long ago coming out of Illinois he was one of these rising
young talents in coaching. I don't know what kind of coach he'll be
but the Al Davis Stooge label doesn't completely fit...
glenn
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46.491 | | CNTROL::CHILDS | UMass > UConn | Fri Feb 03 1995 13:37 | 9 |
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well Glenn, people do change and I agree Mike White isn't an original
member of the family but through osmosis is probably one now. The only
time I recall Al without a puppet was Shanhan and given how that turned
out I don't see Al hiring anything but a bowdowner....
I could be wrong, it's been know to happen.... ;^)
mike
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46.492 | | HELIX::MAIEWSKI | | Fri Feb 03 1995 14:28 | 5 |
| Didn't Madden coach that team at one point?
Was Al Davis the owner back then?
George
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46.493 | | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | JAN,279,270,267,264.230 OR BUST | Fri Feb 03 1995 15:03 | 3 |
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Yes and Yes. And he was no puppet!
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46.494 | More on Al | CSC32::J_HENSON | Don't get even, get ahead! | Mon Feb 06 1995 15:08 | 9 |
| During yesterday's pro-bowl, they interviewed on the the Raider's receivers.
Seems like it was Tim Brown, but I can't remember for sure. Anyway,
the guy had some pretty interesting and pretty candid comments.
Primarily, he said that it was hard to respect a coach when you didn't
know if they were saying what they thought, or just parroting Al Davis.
Jerry
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46.495 | | BSS::NEUZIL | Just call me Fred | Wed Feb 22 1995 13:30 | 6 |
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Report out of LA says that Art Shell has signed on as offensive line
coach for the Chiefs.
Kevin
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46.496 | Oakland Raiders again? | BSS::NEUZIL | Just call me Fred | Wed Jun 21 1995 18:06 | 7 |
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Announcement (according to CBS LA affiliate) tomorrow saying that
the Raiders will be moving back to Oakland. Time to re-name the
note?
Kevin
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46.497 | YHEA Oakland heh heh he hheh heh heh | SUBPAC::SKALSKI | | Wed Jun 21 1995 18:20 | 14 |
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Yup
Heard it on the SPortsBAbe radio talk show,
Associated Press is calling it a DONE DEAL!
Shark
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46.498 | | IMBETR::DUPREZ | | Wed Jun 21 1995 18:24 | 4 |
| Since I doubt that the NFL wants to leave LA without a team, the
question then becomes:
Who's moving to LA?
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46.499 | | MKOTS3::LONG | Naw Leens is one partying town! | Wed Jun 21 1995 18:24 | 1 |
| the Browns?
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46.500 | It's good to be the King! | MSBCS::BRYDIE | I need somebody to shove! | Wed Jun 21 1995 18:32 | 9 |
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Two questions...
How much did Oakland have to pay?
And who will be the first owner to either use the massive LA market
as a bargaining chip or strong arm LA for massive concessions in
exchange for a move there?
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46.501 | LA won't be NFLless long.... | TEAM01::TURCOTTE | Oh King eh? very nice... | Wed Jun 21 1995 18:38 | 16 |
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>> And who will be the first owner to either use the massive LA market
>> as a bargaining chip or strong arm LA for massive concessions in
>> exchange for a move there?
I'd say the Bengals and Patriots are prime canidates for strong arming
their respective cities right now, the Bengals have been lording
Baltimore over Cincinnati's heads for a couple of months now, the
empty LA market will only help them to tell Cinci to put up or shut up.
Gotta figure small markets like Green Bay and Tampa gotta be eyeing
the $$$ they could make in LA LA land.
Turk
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46.502 | Home Field Advantage again!!!!!!! | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | D. A. R. R. Y. L. | Wed Jun 21 1995 18:48 | 3 |
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:-)
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46.503 | Musical cities | CSLALL::BRULE | Was there life before ESPN? | Wed Jun 21 1995 18:54 | 2 |
| Wil McDonough has also mentioned Seattle as a possible candidate for
LA.
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46.504 | | ONOFRE::MAY_BR | Mich fightsong=1bourbon,1scotch &1beer | Wed Jun 21 1995 19:06 | 4 |
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I wouldn't be surprisd to see the Cards leave here.
boC
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46.505 | | ROCK::HUBER | From Seneca to Cuyahoga Falls | Wed Jun 21 1995 19:10 | 10 |
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> Gotta figure small markets like Green Bay and Tampa gotta be eyeing
> the $$$ they could make in LA LA land.
Well, Tampa, maybe...
Unless Green Bay wants to sell its team, and I can't quite picture
that...
Joe
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46.506 | RE: Green Bay | IMBETR::DUPREZ | | Wed Jun 21 1995 19:24 | 23 |
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I believe the team is publicly owned, and I think a great many of the
shareholders are Green Bay folks. Maybe it's overly idealistic, but I
can't see the Packers leaving Green Bay in the foreseeable future - they're
the closest thing to a public trust that I can think of in professional
sports.
Tommy Brydie is right - my first thought was Bob Kraft using this as a
bargaining chip, but there are probably 3 other teams that could do so as
well.
The Browns going to LA would be deja vu - if I remember correctly, the Rams
were in Cleveland before moving to LA. I doubt very much that Art Modell
could claim a lack of fan support, though.
My #1 guess would be that the Bengals would go. It seems like they're always
operating on a tight budget, and the fans there don't seem to turn out in
droves show particular devotion.
Having two cities looking for teams (LA, Baltimore), with one of them
guaranteed to get one, will make the next couple of months mighty interesting...
Roland
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46.507 | | OUTSRC::HEISER | Maranatha! | Wed Jun 21 1995 19:43 | 1 |
46.508 | | OLD1S::CADZILLA2 | Willie the Wimp in a Cadillac Coffin | Wed Jun 21 1995 20:08 | 2 |
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No way the 9er's or Cowboys are movin to Arizona!!!!
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46.509 | | OUTSRC::HEISER | Maranatha! | Thu Jun 22 1995 17:37 | 2 |
46.509 | :-( | WMOIS::CHAPALONIS_M | Donnie Baseball Yankee HOFer!!! | Mon Sep 16 1996 15:46 | 10 |
46.510 | Just Win,Baby !!!! | DELNI::FORGET | | Wed Mar 05 1997 14:06 | 8 |
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the Raiders now have the last two SuperBowl MVPS
Larry Brown (cowboys)
Desmond Howard (packers)
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46.511 | | NQOS01::nqsrv417.nqo.dec.com::Workbench | Inside Intel | Wed Mar 05 1997 22:39 | 5 |
| And you'd think they'd've (can you TM new contractions?) learned their
lesson the last time they signed a SB MVP. Uncle Al is getting dumber as
the years go by.
brews
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