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3183.1 | Not enough info | ZUR01::ASHG | Grahame Ash @RLE | Wed Mar 19 1997 10:49 | 10 |
| Hi Marcia,
Why does he "need the entries stored in the cache"?
Where is the entry held? If it's a local entry, or you're on a World Search
node, or a Copyall node, then the entry won't be placed into the cache.
Are the lookups being done from MBMAN, or something else like ALL-IN-1?
grahame
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3183.2 | More Informations | VAXRIO::63230::vaxrio::abreu | | Wed Mar 19 1997 16:42 | 16 |
| Hi,
The machine is not a world search node neither a copyall. They are
consulting dds from teamlinks and ALL-IN-1 . But I have already done a search
from mbman and the entry wasn't stored at the cache either.
They want some entries stored in the cache because they are very accessed
and if I use an entry that is stored locally or that there is in the cache, in
teamlinks, the address is returned very fast , if not, the search is done and
the user complains about the time it delays. He is complaining because these
entries are not being stored in the cache.
And this customer has 24 entries that are very accessed and these are the
entries that he would like to have in the cache but that are not there and we
can't understand why.
Marcia
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3183.3 | or you could just make it a copyall node! | ZUR01::ASHG | Grahame Ash @RLE | Wed Mar 19 1997 17:20 | 10 |
| I don't know either. It seems that ALL-IN-1 and TL should be updating the
cache - you can enable a couple of events ( 5.29, 5.30) to see if you're
accessing the cache. MBMAN doesn't cache entries, but you're not seeing them if
you do a mbman show dds subsc .../noworld/cache ?
Anything in dds$log.dat?
Otherwise you might have to wait for Dave to pass through.
grahame
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3183.4 | | ACISS2::LENNIG | Dave (N8JCX), MIG, @CYO | Wed Mar 19 1997 18:56 | 18 |
| To cache an object, the application has to do a search, and then issue
a particular call to "touch" the object in the result set; 'touching'
the object can have a variety of differant effects, but in the case in
.2 would result in it being cached. The question that needs be answered
is 'Under what conditions (if any) does your particular mail client
trigger the "touch" operation?'. I don't know the answer to this for
Teamlinks; I can confirm that MBMAN never 'touches' results.
I have a vague recollection that the DMW server arbitrarily 'touches'
the first N results (10? 50?). I _think_ the VT client for both DMW
and ALL-IN-1 'touch' the result selected for a To: mail address. For
a definitive answer you should ask the ALL-IN-1 or DMW conference.
BTW, the MBMAN SHOW command to search the cache exclusively should
use the /noperm switch. eg MBMAN SHO DDS SUB/NAME=*/NOPERM
(SHOW defaults are /perm/cache/noworld)
Dave
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3183.5 | I'll take a look at dds$log .... | VAXRIO::63230::vaxrio::abreu | | Wed Mar 19 1997 20:07 | 19 |
3183.6 | | ACISS2::LENNIG | Dave (N8JCX), MIG, @CYO | Wed Mar 19 1997 21:50 | 7 |
| You don't need to shut it down though it will require a Suspend/Resume.
MC MBMAN
SET DDS CONFIG/LOGE=(5.29,5.30)
ACCEPT DDS CONFIG
Dave
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3183.7 | I'll enable the events this morning | VAXRIO::63230::vaxrio::abreu | | Thu Mar 20 1997 15:22 | 13 |
| Hi Dave,
Thanks . I didn't know this command. I'll try it this morning because I
checked yesterday and the events 5.29, 5.30 are not enabled.
Another information that I forgot to tell is that they don't have ALL-IN-1 on
the same node of message Router. Their ALL-IN-1 runs on an alpha and uses
remote message router.
Marcia
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3183.8 | | ACISS2::LENNIG | Dave (N8JCX), MIG, @CYO | Thu Mar 20 1997 17:00 | 9 |
| re: commands in .6
They are undocumented (though described in the MR Support Guide).
re: remote DDS access
Shouldn't make a difference; the remote DDS interface supports 'touch'.
Dave
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3183.9 | It worked !!! | VAXRIO::63230::vaxrio::abreu | | Thu Mar 20 1997 20:15 | 15 |
| Hi Dave,
It worked. I enabled the events and realized that when I made search from
teamlinks, nothing happened but I tried from ALL-IN-1 , using the addresses to
send a mail and the entries went to the cache. I guess I missed a step last
time I tried.
Thanks for the help.
Is there any way to disable the events 5.29, 5.30 without stopping DDS ?
Marcia
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3183.10 | | ACISS2::LENNIG | Dave (N8JCX), MIG, @CYO | Fri Mar 21 1997 01:32 | 9 |
| I'm surprised Teamlinks isn't touching *anything*.
MC MBMAN
SET DDS CONF/IGNOREEVENTS=(...
ACCEPT DDS CONFIG
Like I said, this stuff is in the MR support guide.
Dave
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3183.11 | Thanks | VAXRIO::63230::vaxrio::abreu | | Fri Mar 21 1997 16:38 | 5 |
| Thanks Dave,
I didn't have this support guide but I copied yesterday.
Marcia
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