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Conference forty2::mailbus

Title:MAILBUS - Message Router and its Gateways
Notice:Kit Copy Utility - 100.1, Problems - 5.*, Kit Support - 103.1
Moderator:FORTY2::YUILLE
Created:Thu Jun 11 1992
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3209
Total number of notes:7125

3177.0. "massive Update DDS " by EVTAI1::GODARD () Tue Mar 11 1997 12:53

Hello,

    I have a question from 1 of my customers regarding a quite large DDS
    update that is in progressing.
	8 WSN worldwide and 40000 entries to update.

The update has begun around three days ago, and it's still running.

The question is :
	Is there tools to track the progress of the update ?
	is there tools to optimize it ?
	is there a way to force the order of the update ? 


It's very urgent...

Thanks 
Monique
    
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3177.1ACISS2::LENNIGDave (N8JCX), MIG, @CYOTue Mar 11 1997 17:2718
    Are the 40000 entries all on one source node, or scattered around the
    network? If all on one node, given there are by default only two DDS 
    talker processes on a node, attempting to create 8 WSnodes at the same
    time is implicitly creating a bottleneck. Generally speaking, you
    should only do one WSnode at a time (and use the /copyall then /world
    sequence to prevent non-WSnodes from sending search requests to the 
    partially populated WSnodes). You don't indicate what speed links
    exist between the nodes, but assuming WAN links, you are probably
    looking at a few weeks to do 8 WSnodes. I tend to recommend
    starting the population of a large WSnode on a Friday evening, and
    would usually expect it to be complete by Monday morning or so...
    
    The Messaging Practice (used to?) have a tool called the Rapid Node
    Replicator, but I don't know if it's been maintained or tested against
    the current version of MR, and besides it also had a constraint that
    all the DDS objects had to be owned by the DDS Master node as I recall.
    
    Dave
3177.2ACISS2::LENNIGDave (N8JCX), MIG, @CYOTue Mar 11 1997 17:305
    Oh yeah, re: tracking the progress. 
    
    Watch DDS counters on both source and destination nodes...
    
    Dave
3177.3What els to check ?EVTAI1::GODARDThu Mar 13 1997 17:1112
    Thanks for your response.
    
    Now, the customer wants a DDS specialist on site to track the
    progress...
    
    Is there any other things to verify than counters in order to check the
    update progress ?
    
    Regards
      
    Monique
    
3177.4ACISS2::LENNIGDave (N8JCX), MIG, @CYOFri Mar 14 1997 21:035
    Well, the size of the outgoing node's network queue file will shrink
    over time (when DDS$TIDY runs), and the size of the destination node's
    perm_db and perm_aif file will grow over time. 
    
    Dave
3177.5unable to add subscriber: is it normal?EVTAI1::MORVANWed Mar 26 1997 12:0115
    Hi,                      
    
    I have been on site yesturday. The update is still going on.
    
    The customer has noticed the following pb on each ws that are updating:
    he cannot add or modify a local subscriber. No respons when he types a
    add built command. 
    
    Is this due to the current massive update that locks the  inqueue file
    or to a pb with this  (inqueue) file?
    
    Thanks for your help.
    Regards.
    
    Genevieve MORVAN
3177.6ACISS2::LENNIGDave (N8JCX), MIG, @CYOWed Mar 26 1997 14:5911
    The Input Queue is just that - a queue.
    
    If there are a lot of updates in the queue, then when they try to 
    do an update, their request get's tacked on the end of the queue
    and has to wait in line to be processed.
    
    I'd suggest you investigate where all these updates are coming from.
    With the right set of events enabled, you should be able to examine
    the dds$log file to see what node they are coming from. 
    
    Dave