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Conference hips::babylon5

Title:Boom Today
Notice:Have the Shadows returned to Z'ha'dum ?
Moderator:HIPS::WATSON
Created:Thu Oct 27 1994
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:182
Total number of notes:2948

176.0. "#522 Sleeping in Light (a.k.a. Farewell)" by HIPS::WATSON (Eenie meenie minee moe...That one!) Mon Jan 20 1997 11:34

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176.1149.4 vs. 170.0HIPS::WATSONEenie meenie minee moe...That one!Mon Jan 20 1997 11:389
176.2And, in the end, I think you'll be pleased.HIPS::WATSONEenie meenie minee moe...That one!Thu Apr 24 1997 10:5562
    Q: "But seriously, what kind of responses do you expect to see in this
    newsgroup the week following the last episode?" 
    
    In a way you're kind of asking the wrong person, as I'm inside the
    fishbowl and can't see the show the way anyone outside can see it. The
    only gauge I have is the reaction the script got around the stage when
    people on the crew and cast read it. (With a note attached explaining
    the possibility of airing it as 522 or 422, but that either way this
    would end up the story.) 
    
    Pretty much everybody cried. I came home to a message on my machine
    from Mira, who was almost unable to speak, and another from Claudia who
    said she was honored and proud to be a part of this, and the script had
    made her cry. Bruce, Richard, big beefy guys on the crew...all said the
    same thing. And there I have to concur; I lost is several times as I
    was writing it, due to the content; there's one scene in
    particular...you'll know it when you see it...that put me away for an
    hour when I finished writing it. 
    
    But here's the thing...*every single person* who cried at the script,
    ended it feeling that it was not a sad script in the end, or a down
    ending...that it left them feeling proud, and tall, and
    *positive*...that life goes on...that it was a reaffirmation of life
    itself, on its most primal level. They felt good about the ending. And
    that was a great relief for me, because I was trying something *very*
    difficult from a writing perspective, and at first blush it looks as if
    I've pulled it off. (Now I get to go in as director and *totally* screw
    it up.) 
    
    Only one fan has read the script...someone whose opinion I trust.
    Because I was curious about the reaction from that side of the screen.
    And the reaction was *exactly* the same. 
    
    So how do I think people will react? 
    
    I think a lot of people will cry. 
    
    But by the end of it, I think it will come around, and be all
    right...and mainly, that people will then look back at the whole story,
    through all these long years, and say, "It was a good story." And close
    the cover, and put it on the shelf with the other books that will be
    reread again down the years, and turn off the lights, and go to bed
    feeling that the time was well spent. 
    
    Which is the most any writer can ever ask for. To tell a tale worth
    telling To make people cry. To make people laugh. And even, once in a
    while, make them think about things, and see the world just a little
    differently than when they began. 
    
    And then they can centerpunch me on the freeway, or throw a plane at
    me, and I won't even mind. Because everything I set out to prove, I
    proved. Everything I set out to say, I said. 
    
    I've carried this story like a hermit crab carries its shell for five
    long years, counting the pilot. It's been an *awfully* long and
    difficult road, and no one will ever really know just how hard this
    show was to make. Nor should they, because it isn't the difficulty that
    makes the story, the *story* makes the story. But one way or another,
    aired as 522 or 422, when it airs the burden is off at last. Then it no
    longer belongs to me. It belongs to you. As should be. 
    
    And, in the end, I think you'll be pleased. 
176.3hmm, time to get recordingSUBSYS::MSOUCYMentalmETALMikeThu Apr 24 1997 16:2712
    
    So, it looks like #422 is the last of the show? I guess I will have to
    stay up late on sundays to catch this or get the VCR to record it if it
    isn't being a pain in the #&^ as usual (time for a new one maybe??). I
    saw last weeks (part of) as I had seen it before and I think that was
    a fairly recent repeat so I guess I should see it this weekend as I
    think they are the new ones again.....too bad this may end, and have to
    wait till next Jan. for it to begin on TNT since TV50 went shopping and
    UPN doesn't like the show...what a bunch of narrow-minded fools!! I
    will take this over DS9 OR VOY any day!
    
    
176.4SMURF::PETERTrigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertaintyFri Apr 25 1997 08:117
    Well, either 422 or 522, but the script being mentioned is indeed the
    last one.  And while there are new shows starting this weekend, 
    the episode following 421 (which could be 501 if we get a fifth
    season), will not be seen in the US till October/November.
    
    PeterT
    
176.5that answers a few questions...QUARRY::petertrigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertaintyThu May 22 1997 19:5435
A number of people have wondered how you could have the final episode be
aired at 422 or 522, as wouldn't that indicate that you have to 
tie up threads in 422 that could have played out if there was a 
fifth season.  Caught this question and answer on one of the jms 
digests I get:

>> If there is a season 5, 422 is yanked out of the mix and moved down to
occupy 522's slot, and we shoot 501 and get it done in time to air in place of
422 in October. <<

So the final ep will still make sense in the flow of the story, regardless of
whether all the events of season 5 transpire before it or not?

I think this is what is confusing people--at least me.


 #: 670806 S5/Babylon 5: General
    21-May-97  17:13:46
Sb: #670789-How will this play out
Fm: J. MICHAEL STRACZYNSKI

       There's no need for confusion.  Season 4, as you know, takes place in
2261.  Season 5 would take place in 2262.

       422, or 522, depending on the breaks, takes place in 2281.  So it plays
just fine either way.

                                                                       jms



So it looks like the final episode will be a retrospective, as well as probably
an update on where everyone is now...

PeterT
176.6OUTPOS::EKLOFWaltzing with BearsThu May 22 1997 20:053
	And 2281 is twenty years after Lorien said Sheridan had about twenty
years of life-force left.

176.7Angry of YorkshireRIOT01::SUMMERFIELDSic Transit Gloria MundiFri May 23 1997 15:309
    re .6
    
    Not knowing who Lorien is, I assume you are commenting on something
    from Season 4. Unfortunately for most of us in the U.K. we have yet to
    see this season. Thanks for spoiling the fact that Sheridan survives
    the fall at Zhadum because of some lifeforce thing related to some
    being called Lorien. Please be more careful with spoilers.
    
    Clive
176.8HIPS::WATSONLiving in interesting timesSat May 24 1997 00:2114
176.6 reposted with spoiler space (Sorry Clive, I've been pretty busy
    recently & haven't looked at this conference for a few days)
    
    
    Spoiler for season 4
    
    
    
            <<< Note 176.6 by OUTPOS::EKLOF "Waltzing with Bears" >>>

	And 2281 is twenty years after Lorien said Sheridan had about twenty
years of life-force left.