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Conference hips::babylon5

Title:Boom Today
Notice:Have the Shadows returned to Z'ha'dum ?
Moderator:HIPS::WATSON
Created:Thu Oct 27 1994
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:182
Total number of notes:2948

124.0. "#407 Epiphanies" by HIPS::WATSON (I'll always be here) Thu May 30 1996 21:42

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124.1HIPS::WATSONEenie meenie minee moe...That one!Mon Jan 06 1997 10:503
124.2ah, a joke...QUARRY::petertrigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertaintyMon Jan 06 1997 19:314
124.3BULEAN::BANKSOrthogonality is your friendTue Feb 11 1997 16:1539
Nice to see Bester back.  Nice to be reminded about all the other really
important things going on that might have been forgotten about.

Big spoiler ahead:


































The first "Keeper" sighting on Centauri Prime!!!
124.4TROOA::TEMPLETONOne fine day......SpringTue Feb 11 1997 17:2415
    Good show
    
    
    
    spoiler
    
           
    
    Bester I don't like, he's a sly one, which is good, it should make  
    some very  interesting sparks fly. When he said he was going to make
    them suffer more than he had, you could believe it.
    It looks as if Leida (sp) is holding something back and may be a bigger
    part of the story from now on, or mabe not, there are so many twists to
    this story it's almost impossible to think ahead of it.
    interesting
124.5This guys 3 cents!!!!!!!POLAR::MAHANEYMikey - Deliver us from evil!Fri Feb 14 1997 13:426
    Found the episode a bit of a yawner. Probably because the previous
    episode was so fast paced. What happened to Mr.
    Garibaldi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
        
    
    Sean
124.6TROOA::TEMPLETONOne fine day......SpringFri Feb 14 1997 16:5519
    Garibaldi.
    
    
    
    
    Spoiler
    
    
    Is he resigning because he is afraid of what he might do, (He is still
    having those flashes) or are the ones that held him urging him to
    resign so he can do something for them?
    Though I think, that if he is going to cause any problems on Babylon5 he
    could do more damage as part of the crew, working from the inside.
    
    
    
    
    
    joan
124.7ACISS2::LENNIGDave (N8JCX), MIG, @CYOMon Feb 17 1997 21:181
    The preview for next week seemed to give a clue re: Garibaldi
124.8QUARRY::petertrigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertaintyThu Feb 20 1997 20:3777
Spoilers....








below










Down periscope...








A number of the posts of last week(re: Into the Fire) mention that they 
should check out Z'Ha'Dum and the Vorlon home world for tech.  Well, 
at least we know now what happens at Z'Ha'Dum,  and presumably where
all or a good portion of the Shadow minions went.  I'm pretty sure that
jms has stated that there are no plans to visit the Vorlon home 
world. Here's a succinct post:

 [ Summary: Asks if and when we will eventually see the Vorlon Homeworld. ]

 #: 593361 S6/Babylon 5: Spoilers
    15-Oct-96  22:31:05
Sb: #593249-Vorlon Home World
Fm: J. MICHAEL STRACZYNSKI

      There are no plans at present to show the Vorlon homeworld.

                                                                    jms


So, I'd guess that pretty much excludes that, unless someone thinks of 
a reason during the hoped for season 5.

Sigh, I think I'm going to miss the Garibaldi of old.  He was always one
of my favorite characters, and now it looks like he's been subverted.
Not in quite the usual way, as someone mentioned before, you'd think he'd
do the damage from within.  But then JMS was never one for doing things
the conventional way.  I'd love to see him beat the programming he's under
gone, but somehow that seems too, ah, Trekish, to me.  Let's hope he
leaves Ivanova alone!  Having only seen this once (due to the Celtics 
game) I either didn't catch that part of the preview with Garibaldi,
or perhaps it was in the big preview towards the middle (where they
used to show the Kung Fu preview) and ch 64, which I taped off of, may
have substituted something else at that spot (since they never showed
Kung Fu anyway)  Oh well, I'll find out soon enough.

And Sheridan!  Yikes!  That last scene with Lyta was a bit chilling.
But I guess maybe being dead can do that to you.

Loved the scene with Zack training some of the new security people at
the custom's gate.  From bad (Londo) to worse (Bester) to the second
coming.  I was dying when the sequins and capes strolled in.  Nice
to see Zack get the nod too.  He's often played for the buffoon 
but he might do quite nicely.  Will Zack and Lyta really develop?
Not the two I would have thought paired off together.

All in all a good start to the next phase of things.

PeterT
124.9CSC32::J_KALINOWSKIForget NAM?....NEVER!Tue Mar 04 1997 01:048
    
    
        MMnnnn...The helium party balloons floating UP. There is no up in a
    rotating space station, nor boundary layers of different air for the
    lighter helium to rise above. They would simply float in one spot and
    get moved around by natural air currents. Oh well...minor nit.
    
    -john
124.10QUARRY::petertrigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertaintyTue Mar 04 1997 01:1515
>        MMnnnn...The helium party balloons floating UP. There is no up in a
>    rotating space station, nor boundary layers of different air for the
>    lighter helium to rise above. They would simply float in one spot and
>    get moved around by natural air currents. Oh well...minor nit.

Hmmmmm, interesting.  Helium is not exerting an anti-grav effect obviously,
but I wonder about your questioning about boundary layers.  B5 has a 
fairly wide cross-section.  It is some distance from the center axis to
the the ground of the garden.  All though it is presurrized througout,
I'd imagine the centrifugal force would still make the air at ground layer
denser than the air at the core, and balloons (and ice in a glass of water)
would still tend to rise.  I'd be willing to conduct the experiment
when we have all the pieces in place ;-)

PeterT
124.11DECWET::LOWEBruce Lowe, DECwest Eng., DTN 548-8910Thu Apr 10 1997 03:137
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Eh...??

I may be missing something, but under centrifugal "gravity", a heavier fluid
should still displace a lighter one (dnser vs less dense actually). Ask
yourself, in a rotating station, if you blew a bubble through a straw into a
glass of water, would the bubble just sit there at the bottom of the glass?
124.12TUXEDO::WRAYJohn Wray, Distributed Processing EngineeringMon Apr 14 1997 19:5113
    This is simply an example of the equivalence principle: The rotating
    station gives an acceleration towards the center to anything on board,
    and this acceleration is equivalent to a gravitational field pointing
    away from the center.  This "gravitational field" acts just like a real
    field would, including making helium baloons "rise" above the heavier
    air of the station.
    
    The only difference between the rotational pseudo-gravity and real
    gravity is that there is no possible configuration of mass would
    actually result in a gravitational field of the same shape that the
    rotation produces.
    
    John