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Conference noted::windows95

Title:	Microsoft Windows 95 ("Chicago")
Notice:	Please read topics 1 to 22 before writing anything
Moderator:	EEMELI::BACKSTROM

Created:	Mon Nov 14 1994
Last Modified:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	2958
Total number of notes:	19968

2939.0. "TPC/ip can see out, but node can not be seen by other or itself" by FIEVEL::FILGATE (Bruce Filgate SHR3-2/W4 237-6452) Wed May 28 1997 00:09

 My notebook, bdfnbk.shr.dec.com, can not be seen on the network. I'm
 running Windows95 (950B) and the problem is an issue with dial in
 through the department servers as well  as in the office with a hard
 thinwire connection.

 The notebook can see the other machines and can ping them and all
 the gateways.  The notebook can not ping itself by name (neither
 bdfnbk nor bdfnbk.shr.dec.com) nor by address 16.121.112.122

 netbeui is working fine in both directions, this is tcp issue only

 While this used to run, I'm very reluctant to suggest that I did not
 change anything related!

 I need some suggestions about what to check next.  

 thanks
 Bruce

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
2939.1		TARKIN::LIN	Bill Lin	`Wed May 28 1997 01:16`	10
	re: FIEVEL::FILGATE The only possibility I can think of is that your notebook is not actually using the address that you think it is using. Are you sure you do not have DHCP enabled? Try telneting to a VMS machine. From the terminal session, so a "show terminal." Is the reported IP addresss what you think it should be? /Bill
2939.2		WRKSYS::TATOSIAN	The Compleat Tangler	`Wed May 28 1997 03:46`	6
	Make sure that the IP address you think you're using isn't the one for your ethernet adapter. The dialup side gets its own IP address... and btw: Even if you have an assigned IP address for your notebook dialup adapter and don't have DHCP enabled, some of our dial-ins will still force a DHCP assigned IP address on your DUN connection...
2939.3	DHCP is indeed disabled	FIEVEL::FILGATE	Bruce Filgate SHR3-2/W4 237-6452	`Wed May 28 1997 12:15`	10
	The modem card is out of the PCmcia slot, only the ethernet card is installed. It appears that we may not be able to ping any of the PCs in our group though, nor can any of them ping themselves. When a ping to a pc is issued, the address is looked up and reported ok, then 4 time outs are reported. Bruce
2939.4	try this...	ODIXIE::SIMPSONT	PC = world's biggest con job!	`Wed May 28 1997 12:55`	8
	Are you trying to ping using the node name or by IP address directly? Try pinging by address... That should work without help from the gateway... Also you might want to try a tracert command. That should give you an idea how far you are getting before the ping dies... -Tom
2939.5	WINIPCFG	NWD002::SKRABUT_LA	Larry Skrabut	`Wed May 28 1997 14:00`	2
	Have you tried winipcfg command and compare it to a known working system within the group.
2939.6	...getting closer...maybe	FIEVEL::FILGATE	Bruce Filgate SHR3-2/W4 237-6452	`Fri May 30 1997 00:34`	19
	It would seem that of the two servers that I dial in to, one always provides its own IP regardless of the client setting. The other server was supposed to honor the client's request but it is broken. Depending on the port that answers the incoming call (it appears), either a name/ip pair are assigned, or my PC name/ip pair are used. The hard wire problem with PC not being able ping itself went away on all clients -- no idea what happened there. I did pick up a nasty problem along the way with the notebook though, probably as a result of removing/installing the network software. Now if the ethernet card is plugged into the PCMCIA slot and I establish a dialup connection, the PC hangs hard when the connection is disconnected. To the several folks here, and by mail suggested using telnet to identify the name/ip....THANK YOU! Bruce