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Conference noted::windows95

Title:Microsoft Windows 95 ("Chicago")
Notice:Please read topics 1 to 22 before writing anything
Moderator:EEMELI::BACKSTROM
Created:Mon Nov 14 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2958
Total number of notes:19968

2927.0. "Win95 286 printservers" by FREEBE::NEARY (Bob Neary Lexington,Mass) Fri May 16 1997 16:09

    My brother-in-law has 4-5 Win95 based PC's at his shop. I want to
    hook up some old 286's I have hanging around to be his printservers.
    (So that it won't tie up his "useful" PC's to run print jobs )
    I can by some ~$30 isa i/f network cards but they come with Windows
    based software these days.
    Any CHEAP way to use these 286's in a WIN95 environment ?
    Novell ? Linux ? ...
    
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2927.1TUXEDO::WRAYJohn Wray, Distributed Processing EngineeringFri May 16 1997 17:195
    Lantastic will do what you want.  I have an old 286 running as a print
    server managing an Epson Color II and an HP DeskJet500.  It runs on all
    flavors of Windows as well as DOS.
    
    John
2927.2Need cheap network solutionDABEAN::NEARYBob Neary Lexington,MassMon May 19 1997 15:013
    Looking for CHEAP solution.  How much is LANtastic ? Any special h/w
    needed ?
    
2927.3levers.dechub.lkg.dec.com::GENOVAMon May 19 1997 15:068
    
    why do you need lantastic?
    
    you can use the Microsoft Client software that comes with Win95.
    
    $25-$35 per nic board, and some bnc and you should be all set.
    
    /art
2927.4TUXEDO::WRAYJohn Wray, Distributed Processing EngineeringMon May 19 1997 15:188
>    why do you need lantastic?
>    
>    you can use the Microsoft Client software that comes with Win95.
    
    The base noter wanted to use a DOS machine as a server.  As far as I
    know, MS doesn't support DOS servers.
    
    John
2927.5How do you know it's a dos server?levers.dechub.lkg.dec.com::GENOVAMon May 19 1997 16:1129
    
    Hi John,
    
    Do you think that he wants to use it at the dos level because they are
    286s?  Because I don't see a reference to using them in a dos
    environment.
    
    /art
    
    rep .4
    
    >The base noter wanted to use a DOS machine as a server.  As far as
    >I know, MS doesn't support DOS servers.
    
    >John
    
    
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    >My brother-in-law has 4-5 Win95 based PC's at his shop. I want to
    >hook up some old 286's I have hanging around to be his printservers.
    >(So that it won't tie up his "useful" PC's to run print jobs )
    >I can by some ~$30 isa i/f network cards but they come with Windows
    >based software these days.
    >Any CHEAP way to use these 286's in a WIN95 environment ?
    >Novell ? Linux ? ...
    
    
    
2927.6TUXEDO::WRAYJohn Wray, Distributed Processing EngineeringMon May 19 1997 17:4014
>    Do you think that he wants to use it at the dos level because they are
>    286s?  Because I don't see a reference to using them in a dos
>    environment.
    
    Yes.  That was an assumption.  Assuming they run an MS operating
    system, with a 286 they're limited to MS-DOS or Win3.1 in real or
    standard modes.  I think WfWG needs a 386 or higher, and Win95
    certainly does.  So these machines would need some sort of LAN server
    software, and LANtastic is a good fit as it runs fine in a bare-bones
    DOS environment.  However, it may not satisfy the basenoter's
    requirement for "CHEAP".  On the other hand, since Novell was mentioned
    as a possibility, it may be OK.
    
    John
2927.7BBQ::WOODWARDC...but words can break my heartWed May 21 1997 00:0713
    hey!
    
    for free - check out OpenDOS at www.caldera.com
    
    It's a 'repackage' for DR-DOS/NovellDOS - an MS-DOS clone, with the
    addition of the source code (for those interested) *and* "Novell's
    peer-to-peer product, Personal NetWare (for non-commercial use)."
    
    This would have to be a *perfect* fit!
    
    hth,
    
    H
2927.8Thank you allDABEAN::NEARYBob Neary Lexington,MassWed May 21 1997 16:289
    THANKS FOR ALL THE REPLIES. !
    
    I'll look into each and update here in case others would wnat to know.
    
    The 'free' webpage looks great right now.
    
    Regards,
    Bob
    
2927.9Workgroups for DOS (Microsoft)OGOPW1::tunsrv-remote.alf.dec.com::fultonOther Vehicle=Federation StarshipTue Jun 03 1997 19:1913
A little late, but I have a cheap solution.

I was in a similar situation in that I wanted to connect some 286 (DOS) 
machines to my home network running WFW and WIN95.  Microsoft has a product 
called "Workgroups for DOS" which they distribute on the WinNT CDROMs.  This 
addon allows a DOS machine to function as part of a windows network complete 
with file and printer sharing.

Give it a try...


Ken

2927.10TUXEDO::WRAYJohn Wray, Distributed Processing EngineeringThu Jun 05 1997 12:575
    Isn't Workgroups for DOS client-side only?  That is, does it let you
    make disks and printers attached to the DOS machine visible to the
    network?
    
    John
2927.11Networked whatever.. across the house... maybe I can connect to the alarm ??!!PTOSS1::MATSCHERZThu Jun 05 1997 14:1416
    This is what I use for a new client installation.  I pop in the network
    card and have a bootable floppy with the network card drivers already
    loaded.  Once you boot the "new" machine you connect to the server
    using standard commands (ex.. //matscherz/drive c ) once connected you
    can fdisk, copy, format your little heart away.  It works using
    Netbeui. I've done this now with several "new" system configs for
    reloading software and other functions where you don't want to
    configure software on someone else machine but you want it on the
    network temporarily to copy some 30-40 mb (or larger sometimes) files
    to the hardrive.  Once done you just remove the card and floppy and
    your set.  (sometimes you do get IRQ conflicts so you have to be ready
    to handle those if your addresses are being used too. ) 
      I've been able to get mine to work with networked printers as well.
    It's just another // connection.  
    L8tr..
    Steve m..