Conference noted::windows95

    re: WHYNOW::NEWMAN
    
    What's the threshold you have set for receiving the warnings?
    
    /Bill

    Where is the threshold set? 

    re: .2 by WHYNOW::NEWMAN
    
    >>  Where is the threshold set?
    
    I don't do Win95 much, but on a Win95 machine at home, I have a line
    item in my system scheduling agent that controls warning of low disk
    space conditions.  In there, one can set the threshold.
    
    Sorry I can't be more precise.
    
    /Bill

The message box you cite is not threshold level induced, it is more of a trend
rate of available space widget.

So you may have 1GB free but if you run netscape and the incoming graphics are
filling up C:\netscape\cache at a fast rate, the widget tells you half of what
you had a while ago is gone. But in the mean time you exited the URL you were
viewing and the cache got flushed and when you looked at the harddrive you did
not have 500mb left as the widget told you. You have almost all of you original
space back.

I get that widget to fire off about 10 times a day while moving files in and out
of my system.

roger.

    
    	When was the last time you visited a 100MB web page, let alone a
    	500MB web page?
    

    re .3, .4
    
    I am not running the "System Agent" so the message is not coming from
    the "Low Disk Space" checker...
    
    I SOMETIMES get the message when I run Internet Explorer and/or
    Netscape.  I have also gotten it when I simply open up a blank
    powerpoint file.

    re: .4
    
    Why would the browser disk cache "flush" on exit? Mine (set for a max
    of 40MB) retains the MRU list of objects whether the browser is active
    or not...

    
    re.5
    
     OH NO! SLAB not here too!
    
    NOT one singular 500mb page, I can push and pull a ton of MB's through
    my system in a day ;^)
    
    BTW, there was no mention of not using system agent in the original
    post. Forget I even opened my mouth :^P
    
    

    
    	Well, if anything, the cache will be flushed upon exiting Netscape,
    	not after every jump to a different URL.
    
    	Regardless, that wouldn't seem to explain a 500MB difference in
    	space.  I've had upwards of 500 files in my \cache directory for a
    	grand total of about 2-3MB max.
    
    	I think Bill's suggestion of a space monitor is the best so far.
    	That'd work out to about a 25% threshold, which is a round enough
    	number to be a possible setting.
    

    The ROOT of C: is limited to 500 files I think. You may get that error
    if you have too many files in your ROOT.
    
    Mark

Re .10 This is a very possible cause. W95 can get to as low as 21 or 22 
files in one directory if maxed out long file names are used (256 
characters). If you allow office to name your files it uses the first 
sentence or line line as the default file name. If the directory you 
are in has a lot of files in it with long file names, this could easily 
be cause.  Remember that any time you open a file, about 3 temp files 
are created, each with a ~in front of the file name. This could be what 
is triggering the warning, and when you exit, the temp files are gone 
of course. 
 This is pure speculation as there is insufficient deatil in the .0 to 
make any better guess.

 Ron.

    re .10
    
    What is the best way to determine how many files are in the root of C:?
    
    From the MSDOS prompt, CHKDSK says that the C drive has:
    		313 Hidden Files
    		542 Directories
    		14,644 User Files
    
    From Explorer, highlighting on the C drive says that it contains 36
    objects plus 19 hidden
    

    Go into Explorer - View - Options, enable "Show All Files" under the
    View - Hidden files section, then click on OK. Now you'll see every
    file and folder under the root (actually, anywhere you look you'll see
    everything that's there).

    re .13
    
    When I do this it says   55  Objects

    I guess you're saying you don't actually want to count the files?
    
    OK, so next, go back to Explorer - View and select Details. This will
    list all of the objects on the right pane, one entry per line, with the
    folders showing up first, then the files. Scroll down to the first
    file, single-click on it, then scroll to the bottom of the list, hold
    down the shift key and single-click on the last file. 
    
    Now the status line will tell you how many objects you have selected -
    and in this case, that number equals the number of files.
    

    The questions to ask:
    1. FAT16 or FAT32 ?
       Especially if you are FAT32, some older tools may not work properly.
    2. Compressed or not.
    3. Are you running things like Norton System Doctor or
       First Aid. If so, make sure those are configured correctly.
    I suspect that the DOS chkdsk is telling lies. 
    
    Check your settings for virtual memory in the control panel.
    Also, Norton file manager will tell you how much free space is
    available. 

    Sorry if I misunderstood some of the earlier replies.
    
    Here is some more information pertaining to my system:
    
    1)  Drive C properties are:
    		Total Capacity:		1.96GB
    		Used Capacity:		1.49GB
    		Free Capacity:		 483MB
    
    2)  Windows Explorer indicates that there are 22 folders, and
    	32 files in the top-level of the C drive plus the recycle bin.
    
    3)  A DIR /S/W/O  command from the  C> MS-DOS prompt indicates
    	that there are 13,110 files and 1,587 directories on the
    	C drive
    
    4)  There is 10% (or 201MB) of the C Drive set aside for the
    	recycle bin
    
    5)  System/Device Manager/Performance indicates that the system
    	is using the 32-bit file system and virtual memory
    
    6)  Virtual memory is automatically managed by the system
    
    7)  No, the disk is not compressed
    
    8)  Yes, I am running Norton Utilities V2.0 and it is configured
    	properly
    
    
    Thanks again for all the help people have been giving.  The message
    does still occur but now only about once a day