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Conference noted::windows95

Title:Microsoft Windows 95 ("Chicago")
Notice:Please read topics 1 to 22 before writing anything
Moderator:EEMELI::BACKSTROM
Created:Mon Nov 14 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2958
Total number of notes:19968

2902.0. "Mouse Pointer is GONE!!!!!" by STOSS1::DPROSE () Fri Apr 11 1997 20:41

    I mouse point has vanished.....
    
    I have been using the laptop for months woth no problems. But when I
    turned it on yesterday the mouse was gone.
    
    I went into Devices via "my computer" and deleted the mouse. After
    reboot it found the mouse and reinstalled the device. But went it
    rebooted after adding the device it was still gone. 
    
    To rule out any conflicts I set it up with VGA as the monitor,removed
    all the other devices such as network and modem cards. still no luck.
    
    Rebooted in  SAFE MODE and the mouse is there!
    
    So standard VGA and no network.... Why would the mouse be there in SAFE
    MODE but gone other wise????
    
    Could it be a vrus?
    
    any ideas
    
    Dennis
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2902.1You may want to just reset by reloading the driverSMURF::GAFJerry Feldman, Unix Dev. Environment, DTN:381-2970Mon Apr 14 1997 19:509
    I suggest you reinstall the driver. That will reset some of the mouse
    parameters. Before you do that, check your mouse settings in the
    control panel. You or something may have inadvertently changed the
    settings to where your mouse pointer is just not visible. Also check
    your pointer speeds. You might want to add mouse trails 
    
    One problem that I had encountered (and tracked to a bad driver) was
    that my mouse cursor would be invisible in Windows 16 bit apps. 32 bit
    apps had no problem. 
2902.2squeeak! squeeak!BSS::PROCTOR_RPC....Politically CorruptMon Apr 14 1997 21:175
    A piece of cheese and a trap may also help return your mouse...
    
    (sorry; long frustrating day)..
    
    *8)
2902.3STOSS1::DPROSEMon Apr 14 1997 22:201
    I did reinstall the driver
2902.4Maybe the pointers got trashedTLE::INGRAMoopsTue Apr 15 1997 14:457
	Did you check what mouse pointers your system is using? Go to the
	Control Panel, double click on the mouse icon and click on the
	Pointers tab.

Larry

2902.5It happened to me onceCADSYS::GROSSThe bug stops hereTue Apr 15 1997 19:214
The one time I lost my mouse pointer I had to reinstall W95 to get
it back. A real pain in the rear end.

Dave
2902.6CANING::MTEAMThu Apr 24 1997 18:4318
    I lost my mouse driver a few times at home..
    
    I had a 9FX motion771 video card.  For some reason, the mouse pointer
    disappeared.. The driver loaded fine, and I was able to click on
    things (blindly).. it was as if the mouse driver's color became
    "invisible"...
    
    After changing my Mouse pointer to an animated pointer.. it came back! 
    Whenever I changed the mouse pointer to the normal default, it
    disappeared again..
    
    I think the cause of the problem was part of the software that the
    video driver installed.. where there was a setting for a Chamelon
    cursor color.. somehow that modified the mouse color to invisible.
    
    Jim
    
    
2902.73 blind mice, etcCHEFS::16.43.128.221::MadBlasphemer !!!!!!Tue Apr 29 1997 10:4020
This problem has been bugging a few of us here. In Excel/Access/Windows95, you can be 
working away fine. Then you try to do something like opening a mail with Excel 
Calculating and hey presto, the mouse pointer disappears. sometimes the pointer appears 
on the menubars but not in the workarea, sometimes not. A re-boot is the only rescue 
option.

 This happens at least once a week to approx 6 different machines... Very strange

Access has many wonderful instances where the mouse pointer disappears along with the 
progress indicator, normally when trying to access anything large (100000+records) but 
has occasionally happened with small (sub1000 record db's) 

 The answer..........who knows, I just reboot, our halpdesk looked as confused as me. 
They come over when it happens, and say"right, give it a reboot and it'll come back"

 I knew That.

Still, that's life I s'pose.

Stuart
2902.8wrapped to <80 columnsTARKIN::LINBill LinTue Apr 29 1997 11:0226
      <<< Note 2902.7 by CHEFS::16.43.128.221::Mad "Blasphemer !!!!!!" >>>
                             -< 3 blind mice, etc >-

This problem has been bugging a few of us here. In Excel/Access/Windows95,
you can be  working away fine. Then you try to do something like opening a
mail with Excel  Calculating and hey presto, the mouse pointer disappears.
sometimes the pointer appears  on the menubars but not in the workarea,
sometimes not. A re-boot is the only rescue  option.

This happens at least once a week to approx 6 different machines... Very
strange

Access has many wonderful instances where the mouse pointer disappears
along with the  progress indicator, normally when trying to access anything
large (100000+records) but  has occasionally happened with small (sub1000
record db's) 

The answer..........who knows, I just reboot, our halpdesk looked as
confused as me.  They come over when it happens, and say"right, give it a
reboot and it'll come back"

I knew That.

Still, that's life I s'pose.

Stuart
2902.9TARKIN::LINBill LinTue Apr 29 1997 11:056
    re: .7 by CHEFS::16.43.128.221::Mad "Blasphemer
    
    Sounds like a hardware/driver issue, possibly video driver. 
    Descriptions of your systems would help...
    
    /Bill
2902.10System SpecsCHEFS::16.37.12.8::MadBlasphemer !!!!!!Wed Apr 30 1997 10:5510

 System is Celebris 5/90, 3.25GB Hdd (3 disks, 1x2gb,1*650mb 1*600mb),
 48mb Ram, onboard Video(Sorry don't know which) (Upgraded to 2MB).
 Running W95,Office 95.

 All other machines are similar, though generally less RAM.

Cheers
Mad
2902.11TARKIN::LINBill LinWed Apr 30 1997 11:2616
    re: .10 by CHEFS::16.37.12.8::Mad
    
    I presume you have the original Celebris 590 (not XL, not FX, not GL,
    etc.).  That system has onboard S3 864 (aka Vision864).  I've never had
    any problems with that system, using the software you're running. 
    Still, a video driver issue seems most likely.  You can try updated
    drivers from http://pcbu.ako.dec.com/~ftp/options/video/VS862019.EXE. I
    found this by browsing through desktop > options > video > Vision864.
    
    I hope this is the solution, but if anyone can think of other
    possibilities, please speak up.  Also, do pursue official escalation
    paths if you need this problem resolved in a timely manner.
    
    Cheers,
    
    /Bill
2902.12ThanksCHEFS::16.37.12.8::MadBlasphemer !!!!!!Wed Apr 30 1997 12:398
Many Thanks,

 I'll give it a try and keep you posted.


Jeers

Mad
2902.13Ah, But..........CHEFS::16.37.8.50::MadComplete HatstandWed Apr 30 1997 14:4517
Yep, found the file and downloaded.

 Er, there appear to be two versions of the S3.DRV, numbered spookily 
S3-1.drv and S3-2.DRV. Also the dll has tso copies as well, S3_16 and 
S3_32.

 Now assumption being the mother of all crashes, I am going to assume that 
S1-1.drv and S3_16.dll are partners as are the other 2(S3-2.drv and S3_32), 
one for w95 and one for 3.1*.

 Now I'm no rocket scientist (Clearly), so is it a case of copying these 
files into the Windows/System ?, or can I change drivers thru one of the 
wonderful(?) wizards within W95.

HEEELLLLPPPPP

Mad
2902.14Forget prevCHEFS::16.37.8.50::MadComplete HatstandWed Apr 30 1997 14:527
Forget the last mail,It's sorted.

Thanks for pointer to file.

Mad
(rocket scientist)
(Part-Time)
2902.15TARKIN::LINBill LinWed Apr 30 1997 14:589
    re: .14 by CHEFS::16.37.8.50::Mad
    
    Glad you got it sorted out.  I couldn't have helped; I haven't used
    those files myself.  I tend to stick to the ones included in the O.S.
    
    Bill
    
    p.s. Mad (rocket scientist)
    What a scary combination!