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Conference noted::windows95

Title:Microsoft Windows 95 ("Chicago")
Notice:Please read topics 1 to 22 before writing anything
Moderator:EEMELI::BACKSTROM
Created:Mon Nov 14 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2958
Total number of notes:19968

2829.0. "illegal operation" by MSAM00::KOKCHEEYIT () Thu Mar 06 1997 00:15

    Can someone help me to solve this problem ; I sometimes encounter
    this error message while running some of my 95's application. 
    This is one of them ;
    
    NETSCAPE caused an invalid page fault in
    module NETSCAPE.EXE at 0137:00456f7e.
    Registers:
    EAX=30303230 CS=0137 EIP=00456f7e EFLGS=00010206
    EBX=00ab4f60 SS=013f ESP=0093f584 EBP=0093f614
    ECX=00b2d0e8 DS=013f ESI=00ab44f0 FS=19cf
    EDX=00af9874 ES=013f EDI=00000000 GS=0000
    Bytes at CS:EIP:
    ff 50 04 39 7c 24 0c 75 e2 83 7e 70 00 74 08 8d 
    Stack dump:
    00000001 00ab44f0 00ab44f0 00ab4834 00af9874 004c7e9f 00ab44f0 005210d6
    00ab4758 00afe920 0093f684 0093f670 0093f67c 0093f678 005dac48 00ab4758 
    
    
    Q1 : Why is this happening, not all the time, but occasionally ?
    Q2 : How to solve this ? My PC is 486-based, 16M, 520M HDD.
    
    Thanks for any feedback..
    
    Regards,
    CY
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2829.1I'd rather switch than fight it...NQOS01::tunsrv2-tunnel.imc.das.dec.com::WernerStill crazy after all these years...Thu Mar 06 1997 11:1614
Welcome to the world of buggy software. This is a relatively common problem with many of 
the releases of the Netscape SW and other "rushed to market in Internet time" SW. I'd 
recommend getting a newer release off the Netscape Home Page - but not a Beta release. Or 
you could start using the MS Internet Explorer (go get version 3.01 off their Home Page 
and then also install the new Security bug fix that is posted on the MS Home Page. IE 
doesn't seem to have as many crash-causing bugs right now. 

I got so frustrated with this problem, which IMHO is a shared problem between the OS and 
the apps, neither of which is completely stable yet, that I moved to Windows NT 
Workstation. NT is a much more stable OS and behaves much better in the face of 
mis-behaving apps. I now have all of the stuff that I need running on NT, including 
Teamlinks V2.7 the AV Tunnel V1.1 and Exchange - works great and almost never crashes.

Norm 
2829.2Get browsers internally!PARZVL::ogodhcp-125-128-55.ogo.dec.com::kennedynuncam non paratusThu Mar 06 1997 14:257
Don't go the Netscape's home page.  For your Digital use version of
Netscape Navigator or Internet Explorer, go thru the IBG
kits distribution server:
	http://ibgzko.zko.dec.com/sdk/

They've negotiated licenses for Digital use.  Unless their policy has
changed, Netscape only allows free use to educational institutions.
2829.3.1 wrappedSMURF::PBECKPaul BeckThu Mar 06 1997 16:1323
<<< Note 2829.1 by NQOS01::tunsrv2-tunnel.imc.das.dec.com::Werner "Still crazy after all these years..." >>>
                    -< I'd rather switch than fight it... >-

    Welcome to the world of buggy software. This is a relatively common
    problem with many of  the releases of the Netscape SW and other
    "rushed to market in Internet time" SW. I'd  recommend getting a
    newer release off the Netscape Home Page - but not a Beta release.
    Or  you could start using the MS Internet Explorer (go get version
    3.01 off their Home Page  and then also install the new Security bug
    fix that is posted on the MS Home Page. IE  doesn't seem to have as
    many crash-causing bugs right now. 

    I got so frustrated with this problem, which IMHO is a shared
    problem between the OS and  the apps, neither of which is completely
    stable yet, that I moved to Windows NT  Workstation. NT is a much
    more stable OS and behaves much better in the face of  mis-behaving
    apps. I now have all of the stuff that I need running on NT,
    including  Teamlinks V2.7 the AV Tunnel V1.1 and Exchange - works
    great and almost never crashes.

Norm 

    
2829.4CANING::MTEAMSat Mar 08 1997 17:3413
    I got so frustrated with this problem, which IMHO is a shared
    problem between the OS and  the apps, neither of which is completely
    stable yet, that I moved to Windows NT  Workstation. NT is a much
    more stable OS and behaves much better in the face of  mis-behaving
    apps. I now have all of the stuff that I need running on NT,
    
    >> Most of time this is true.. however the newest version of Netscape
    crashes quite frequently on my NT4.0 system.  I guess that is why they
    call it a "beta"
    
    Jim