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    Shan
    
    Here goes 
    
    at 3:00 AM protien shake
    
    Breakfast 10 egg whites, 1 cup of rice
    
    Mid breakfast  Tuna and noodles
    
    Lunch 2 chicken Breasts, rice, salad with mostly vinegar tad oil
    dressing
    
    Mid day snack, fruit an apple, an orange 
    
    Dinner, chicken or lean steak, rice, veggies
    (diner is creative though, we alternate a lot with stir fry dinners,
    roast chicken, spag made with turkey, turkey meatloaf)
    
    
    Brian

Hmmmm.  I think the folks in here will chock is they see my diet

Before 5:00am work out - 	Nothing, I cant eat that early

Breakfast		-	2 bowls of ceral

Mid Morn Snak		-	Rice Cakes, Bannana or Snackwell treat

Lunch			-  	Pizza, Pasta, Rice, Salad

Dinner			-	Popcorn

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Drinks.  I can't drink, I never have been able to drink.  I have 1/2 cup of
	tea in the a.m. - a 12oz glass of flavored water or soda at lunch.
	and one more of the same at about 7:30pm

	On weekends when I have a mixed drink, I can ony handle 2 tops, I just
	can't put that much in my stomach - I'd be floating away. :-)


I really wish I could have Sarah live with me for 2 weeks and fix my diet.  :-)


Lou

spag?  euuww take it, that's spaghetti?

breakfast: (on lifting days, pro shake) oatmeal w/ other fiber/nut grain ceral,
	   bagel/toast (mostly plain), juice

mid morn:  3 eggs scrambled or veg omelet (the only things I can't bring from 
	   home) or yogurt, bagel or (on a running day) apple fritter or donut

lunch:	   turkey/chicken/tuna sandwich, couplacuppsa 'fresh' veg, maybe a 
	   desert

mid afnoon:turkey/chicken/tuna sandwich, more veggie

early pm:  (like right after i burst through the door home)  yogurt and pro 
	   shake on lifting day, otherwise apple/orange and grape juice on a 
	   running day [i lift/run w/in 1 hr of getting home]

dinner:    usually includes a meat, veg, rice or potatoe or pasta

nite snack:....ice cream (not everynite!) or popcorn

reg.

now ogre's meals are somewhat different: cookies, pizza, chips, cake, lotsa 
cheese; it's those ogre spells that do me in.

reg.

    Breakfast:  Bran or Rice type cereal (low fat milk), yogurt, granola
    bar and fruit salads comin out my yin-yang!
    
    Lunch: Tuna Fish on Wheat Bread, Skinless/Boneless Chinken with
    noodles and yes...sometimes Pizza!
    
    Supper: Meat products are hit hard here, beef, pork, chicken, etc...
    Lotsa fried food too...once I start a serious dieting program, alot of
    this will get cut out.
    
    Snacks:  Fruits - 90%, Chocolate - 10%
    
    Drinks: I have a least 1 litre of milk a day, and about 3 glasses of
    water, maybe a glass or two a day of a fruit juice and the odd pop.
    
    	Jay

    
    
    	This is what I've been doing the last couple weeks for meals.
    
    	Breakfast: 7-8 egg whites, bowl of cream of wheat (when I can)
    
    	Snack: 1 Met-Rx 
    
    	Lunch: 7 ounces of lean meat (usually chicken) 1 cup veggies,1 cup 
    		 of rice or 1 baked potato
    
    	Snack: 1 Met-Rx
    
    	Supper: 7-10 egg whites (and maybe some veggies)
    
    	Snack: fruit or if I work out or run I'll have a protien shake
    
    	Wayne

    Breakfast:  Oatmeal or Cream of Wheat (single serving) and water
    
    Lunch: 1/2 turkey roll-up, lettuce, tomato, onion, no mayo, and water
    
    Dinner:  Soup or light meal, and water
    
    :-)
    

    Jim! How are you able to exercise or even think on so little fuel?
    How many calories are you eating a day? And do you eat like that every
    day, or on select days?
    sarah

i agree! even if you're trying to lose weight while building muscle, you need 
weigh more calories (<---intended)!  just about any nutritionist that has become
hip to the new old ways will tell you that to lose weight, you must eat! your
body weight requires that you should consume 1lb x 10cal per day, just for 
maintenance.  granted, if you have a little bit extra to lose than build, you 
can cut back on some of the solid foods, but add in a few liquid meals.  not 
that i'm any adonis, etc as i am constantly battling the waistline (medical 
infractions not withstanding, i think i said that right), but anyone else i know
that has taken off the weight (myself here included) has consumed way more than
required and maintained a high aerobic with slight anaerobic conditioning.

not to mention with too little in the diet, if your training in any fashion 
regularly, you will surely become overtrained and can end up really hurting 
yourself.

reg.

    I'm not overtraining.  Fer sure.
    
    As I mentioned in my other note, I'm taking things VERY gradually.  In
    another conference I mentioned that at a health fair, they refused to
    give me a stress test because my risk factors were too high.  In the
    absence of a stress test, or a physician that will committ to a
    specific program, I am forced to plot my own course.  And since I
    prefer gradually giving up a sedentary life style, versus rehab from a
    heart attack, I'm moving slow.  My heart monitor keeps me going from
    day to day, because I can see small improvements on a daily basis that
    would otherwise be invisible.  
    
    My program calls for losing 60 pounds at one pound per week.  I can't
    imagine anything more frustrating than a ONE YEAR PLAN for weight loss,
    but there it is.  My hope is that it will come off faster, but I refuse
    to get my hopes up.  Fighting depression will not contribute much to
    the program.
    
    Consequently, my wieght loss calorie level is something like 1700-1800,
    which is about 10-15% below my maintenance level.  I have an occasional
    sweet or fat-free snack, and occasional juice, and sometimes salad or
    soup at lunch, so the portrait I gave is a little more severe than
    reality.  I did that mostly to poke fun at you guys that have to eat
    several horses a day to maintain your muscle mass.  Typically, I go
    OVER my weight-loss calorie limit, especially on weekends, though I try
    to do so in healthier ways than in the past.
    
    I am in no danger whatsoever of starvation.  I have seen gradual
    progress, so I am convinced that increased physical activity will do
    80% of the weight loss for me, and the other 20% will probably come
    about just from healthier eating habits, versus a major change in diet.
    
    I also take vitamins, and I try and listen to my body, while ignoring
    my mind (which thinks I need to eat WAY more than my body does).
    
    So, sorry to scare you guys.  I thought the happy face would help, but
    I should have clarified a bit more.
    
    But thanks for the concern!  Its encouraging!
    
    jeb
    
    (P.S.  As you know, I'm interested in strength training, but I haven't
    started that part yet, though I may start doing some (very) light reps
    this weekend, so again, I'm not overtraining yet)
    

    
    Since I've already yanked Reg's chain, I guess the Souther Beer Belly
    Builders plan should be discussed...(please read phonetically) :
    
    	Breakfast:  Biskuts an' GRAVY, summa that Red Ah kint.  Bacon,
    	'bout a poun'.  Sumthin lak duzzin ahg ahmlet, what's got ham
    	an lahtsa cheese an uhnions.  Mebby a coupla six-pax a Bud to wash
    	it down with.
    
    	Brunch:  Finish whatcha lefta that case-a Bud
    
    	Lunch:  Country frahd stake, with lotsa that brahwn gravy.  Rahce
    	or whirled taters, green beans, turnip greens or collards.  A
    	big-ole slahce of PEEcan pah, prolly with 'bout a quart of
    	'nilla ahce-cream on top.  Nigh-on a gallon-a ahce-tea,
    	extra-sweet (the trick is to make it a super-saturated solution
    	and add the sugar when the tea is STILL very hot; SEE, we kin
    	understand them chemestree terms even we have trouble makin' the
    	letter "C")
    
    	Afternoon snack:  What?!?!? We're outta BUD?  Ain't got no Jack
    	Black?  Well, reckon now we gotta run down to thu Jiffy Mart and
    	buy some.  Hell, YES, we're takin' the truck!  I AIN'T walkin' a
    	whole block to the store. 'Sides, we kin throw the beer bottles at
    	the road signs on the way and then the truck'll be clean fer
        later...
    
    	Supper:  Frahd chicken!  'Bout 6 thighs and legs fer me; lotsa
    	white sauce!  Hope you HUNGRY, we gonna have mashed taters an
    	chicken GRAVY.  Green bean caserole, biskuts, GRAVY, heck iff'f
    	you wanna salad, we got a WHOLE messa mayo-naze; I know how you
    	health nuts lak yor greens.  We gonna have smore Jack Daniel, how
    	'bout chew?  Got smore sweet ahce-tea, iff'n you want it.
    
    	DE-sert:  Got some more PEEcan pah, homemade, got homemade
    	ahcecream, Maw made some chawk-lit cake with butter-cream
    	ahcing.  We got some-a-them chawk-lit sprinkles an red-hots
    	fer the top-a yer ahcecream if ya want it...  Iff'n yer real lucky
    	Paw's got some 'shine we'll be passin' a-rount later.  'S pretty
    	good since he took all them led pahps outta the still.  No, naw,
    	we ain't got none-a that MAHCRO-brurey stuff a-rount these
    	pahrts...
    
    Sheesh, you eat enough like that and you volunteer to change your name
    to Bubba, even the ladies...
    
    (NON-standard disclaimer) No, I DON'T eat (or talk) like this, nor do I
    recommend it, even to my enemies.  Heck, I'm not even from the south
    (well, Florida isn't REALLY a southern state, is it?).  Shoot, these
    people can't even spell my name right...
    
    bob

    That was a riot Bob!
    
    	Very entertaining for a Monday mornin'!  Hyuck hyuck.
    
    Jay