Conference noted::ibmpc-95

I've been looking at the jinco web page and see that they 
have "Mother board size" listed as either "baby" or "full".  Since I've only
looked inside a few PCs in my life, and most of them appeared to have
the same size MB, what have I been looking at - Baby or Full?  An example
of what I've been looking at would be a Celebris FP Desktop system.

bjm

    Neither. The Digital systems usually, though not always, use slightly
    non-standard motherboard sizes.
    
    Most systems today use "baby" format motherboards. Older systems, and
    some higher power systems (PPRO, etc) may use full MB's. Many of the
    newest systems are going to the new ATX format boards - less
    interference between the CPU/memory and the I/O cards.
    
    None of the above will fit in the Digital PC's. 
    
    Chris
    

>>    None of the above will fit in the Digital PC's. 

Why does this not surprize me :-(

Thanks.  I'm actually "off the clock" today trying to decode all this stuff
as the Digital-owned PC at home will need to return to work and I'll need
to replace it (and I'm planning on starting from scratch).

Brian J.

    re: hndymn.zko.dec.com::MCCARTHY
    
    Hi Brian,
    
    If you want the latest and greatest, go with an ATX motherboard/case
    combo.  If you want maximum compatibility with most current boards, get
    a "standard" clone enclosure.  They'll usually be able to handle baby
    or 3/4 or larger motherboards.  That's what I've done since my early
    excursion into PCs with a Tandy DECstation DS320.
    
    Cheers,
    
    /Bill

    And if you want a PPRO system, use -only- an ATX combo, or you will
    find many of your expansion slots blocked by a large chunk of heat sink
    on the CPU...
    
    Chris
    

Were there actually any motherboards listed as "Full"?  I think that was the size
of the original AT.  I have not seen any in quite a while.

Burns

    re: .45 by skylab.zko.dec.com::FISHER
    
    >> Were there actually any motherboards listed as "Full"?
    
    I have at least one kicking around.
    
    /Bill

    Many of the early PPRO boards, especially the dual processor ones, are
    full size. They are still available. I've had 2 or 3 other full size
    motherboards in my systems over the last few years...I think I just
    sold off the last one a few months ago...
    
    Chris
    

    
    re: PPRO
    
    	PPRO MB's are usually sold as case, power supply, MB and Chip, due
    to the config and power differences over std Pentiums.
    
    								=Paul=