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Conference noted::ibmpc-95

Title:	IBM PCs, clones, DOS, etc.
Notice:	Intro in 1-11, Windows stuff in NOTED::MSWINDOWS please
Moderator:	TARKIN::LINND

Created:	Tue Jan 03 1995
Last Modified:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	3023
Total number of notes:	28404

2900.0. "Creating bootable DOS with network??" by BHAJEE::JAERVINEN (Ora, the Old Rural Amateur) Fri Jan 31 1997 10:57

    I couldn't think of another conference to put this in... the question
    may be stupid, but please bear with me - my'professional' PC career
    began with Windows NT in '92, I've never had anything to do with DOS
    networking.
    
    I need to create a bootable floppy (MS-DOS or Win95) that has enough
    networking stuff to be able to connect to a share on an NT server
    (NETBeui  preferred, TCP/IP is also ok). I know I need a redirector,
    driver, utilities, etc. but where do I get them? (I could take a
    Pathworks client I guess, but I understand it's only DECnet and/or
    TCP/IP and I'd prefer NETBeui).
    
    I have the developers library, but as far as I can see, the "16-bit
    operating systems" disk only has DOS 6.22 and various Windows variants
    but no DOS networking S/W.
    
    What's the easiest and quickest way to create one?

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
2900.1	Somewhere on ftp.microsoft.com...	SUBSYS::WARK		`Fri Jan 31 1997 12:01`	13
	Okay... For the network redirector, etc Microsoft has the bits on ftp.microsoft.com... You want the stuff from /bussys/clients and I think it was the MSCLIENT pieces I used, but may have been lanman... The drivers you may need to get from the network board vendor (I'm sure you already realized that)... I don't remember what, if any. board drivers came with the lanman clients.. At one time I had a bootable floppy with the Lantastic redirector and the FastBack+ backup code, since Fastback supported SCSI tapes over a network... I don't remember if I managed to get the Microsoft bits all on one floppy... I'm pretty sure I did... Steve Wark
2900.2		BHAJEE::JAERVINEN	Ora, the Old Rural Amateur	`Fri Jan 31 1997 12:09`	5
	re .1: Thanks, I'll have a look. The network cards are ours (for the time being) and I know where to find the drivers.
2900.3	NT Server 4.0 has a tool...	dlj.alf.dec.com::jennings	This space for rent	`Fri Jan 31 1997 14:15`	2
	Check Programs\Administrative Tools\Network Client Administrator on an NT Server for a tool to create a network boot disk.
2900.4	mswgcn.exe might work	WEDOIT::JOYCE		`Fri Jan 31 1997 14:24`	3
	I've been using mswgcn.exe that I found somewhere at the MS web site. Steve
2900.5	I'm using a SN2000 (cheapo card - $25 from a comp show)	PTOSS1::MATSCHERZ		`Fri Jan 31 1997 15:54`	15
	I did it via the NT3.51 client disks. This is a couple of disks that you can install to a hard drive and then copy the necessary files to a 3.5 floppy (i've got about 45k free on it now). If you just need to do this with a dec net card then the drivers are right on the disks . If you need to do this with another vendors card it's a little more work but you just have to copy over a driver for the lan driver to the floppy. Mine works pretty good. Boot the floppy with the netcard in place, copy all the install files for windows or whatever and just pop out the net card and the floppy and install. Works great ! L8tr.. Stevem.
2900.6		WOTVAX::HILTON	Save Water, drink beer	`Fri Jan 31 1997 15:54`	4
	I used to use PATHWORKS for this, did it all automatically from the setup program. Greg
2900.7	Pathworks no longer works...	fievel.shr.dec.com::FILGATE	Bruce Filgate SHR3-2/W4 237-6452	`Fri Jan 31 1997 17:25`	3
	the old pathworks does not support long file names and the new pathworks won't come close to fitting on a floppy.
2900.8		BHAJEE::JAERVINEN	Ora, the Old Rural Amateur	`Fri Jan 31 1997 20:21`	6
	Thanks for all the good advice... it's almost Friday midnight here so I'll try it all out on Monday. I just neet a bootable net-able system which _has_ to fit on one 3.5" floppy.