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Conference noted::ibmpc-95

Title:IBM PCs, clones, DOS, etc.
Notice:Intro in 1-11, Windows stuff in NOTED::MSWINDOWS please
Moderator:TARKIN::LINND
Created:Tue Jan 03 1995
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3023
Total number of notes:28404

561.0. "Official America OnLine (AOL) Topic" by EEMELI::BACKSTROM (bwk,pjp;SwTools;pg2;lines23-24) Tue Jan 03 1995 04:55

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561.1Modem problem with AOLDASPHB::PBAXTERMon Jan 09 1995 14:3512
561.2Problem ResolvedDASPHB::PBAXTERWed Jan 11 1995 11:5816
561.328.8 speed available via AOLNETCSC32::K_BELLKerry Bell, Haddam, Connecticut, USAWed Jan 11 1995 18:0212
561.4AOL or Compurserv for Internet?HGOM11::LAWRENCESun Jan 22 1995 15:033
561.5QUARK::LIONELFree advice is worth every centSun Jan 22 1995 15:217
561.6Somes thoughtsEDISTO::greeneMichael GreeneSun Jan 22 1995 16:2884
561.7MROA::EIBENSun Jan 22 1995 21:5013
561.8Tks folksBEJVC::LAWRENCETue Jan 24 1995 00:019
561.9DANGER::INGRAHAMAndyTue Jan 24 1995 00:5110
561.10NetcruiserDV780::TILLISONReverse PivotTue Jan 24 1995 15:0712
561.11CompuServe/AOL are Internet access providers??STOWOA::BUFTON::NBUFTONTue Jan 24 1995 16:4624
561.12MROA::EIBENTue Jan 24 1995 18:4516
561.13SPECXN::WITHERSBob WithersTue Jan 24 1995 20:3416
561.14AOL = endless supply of scratch floppiesDFSAXP::JPTelling tales of Parrotheads and PartiesThu Jan 26 1995 15:127
561.15Maybe he's already surfingANGST::BECKPaul BeckThu Jan 26 1995 15:372
561.16Free Trial KitsDASPHB::PBAXTERThu Jan 26 1995 15:5518
561.17NETCAD::S_HARRISThu Jan 26 1995 16:145
561.18NETCAD::SIMONCuriosier and curiosier...Thu Jan 26 1995 19:307
561.19Large Waste of MoneyDASPHB::PBAXTERFri Jan 27 1995 13:119
561.20NETCAD::SIMONCuriosier and curiosier...Sun Jan 29 1995 18:367
561.21MR4DEC::BMCWILLIAMSHome is where the office is ...Mon Jan 30 1995 01:357
561.22Shipping scrap at subsidized pricingESB02::TATOSIANThe Compleat TanglerMon Jan 30 1995 01:528
561.23Get a lot of free floppies this way...EPS::BOEHMMon Jan 30 1995 12:0013
561.24You got the latest versionDPDMAI::HARDMANSucker for what the cowgirls do...Mon Jan 30 1995 12:404
561.25TUXEDO::WRAYJohn Wray, Distributed Processing EngineeringMon Jan 30 1995 13:5523
561.26don't askDAVE::MITTONWindows in '95Mon Jan 30 1995 14:2026
561.27must everything be enforced to be right?R2ME2::DEVRIESLet your gentleness B evident 2 allMon Jan 30 1995 14:5612
561.28Comming soon on CD's everywhereDPDMAI::GRESSMon Jan 30 1995 23:149
561.29It hurts when I do this !!!DASPHB::PBAXTERTue Jan 31 1995 14:218
561.30Tit for tat...MOLAR::BRIENENOpen Network Management GroupTue Jan 31 1995 15:2010
561.31Other CDsEVMS::SCHUETZVMS Clusters - Memory ChannelTue Jan 31 1995 15:313
561.32ALEPPO::BOWKERJoe Bowker, KB1GPWed Feb 01 1995 16:095
561.33News Groups, restrictions, etc??DYOSW5::WILDERDoes virtual reality get swapped?Thu Feb 16 1995 13:5820
561.34ONE800::CODYThu Feb 16 1995 14:148
561.35PLAYER::BROWNLAn Internaut in CyberSpaceThu Feb 16 1995 14:286
561.36Mail...how??DYOSW5::WILDERDoes virtual reality get swapped?Thu Feb 16 1995 14:578
561.37DANGER::INGRAHAMAndyThu Feb 16 1995 15:084
561.38TUXEDO::WRAYJohn Wray, Distributed Processing EngineeringThu Feb 16 1995 17:3418
561.39SPEZKO::FRASERMobius Loop; see other sideFri Feb 17 1995 13:0011
561.40No word yet back from AOLDYOSW5::WILDERDoes virtual reality get swapped?Thu Feb 23 1995 12:137
561.41AOL's answer - finallyDYOSW5::WILDERDoes virtual reality get swapped?Mon Mar 20 1995 19:1715
561.42ALFAXP::MITCHAMThe Watkins ManWed Mar 22 1995 13:055
561.43AXEL::FOLEYRebel without a ClueWed Mar 22 1995 14:265
561.44LANDO::EIBENThu Mar 23 1995 00:2010
561.45Send your cards and letters...DYOSW5::WILDERDoes virtual reality get swapped?Wed Apr 05 1995 20:5115
561.46AXEL::FOLEYRebel without a ClueThu Apr 06 1995 14:236
561.47MU::porternow with less than 1% vmsThu Apr 06 1995 15:223
561.48Sounds like a fish story! :-)DPDMAI::HARDMANSucker for what the cowgirls do...Thu Apr 06 1995 15:537
561.49Home page at AOL?STAR::FDOLLWed Dec 27 1995 18:4715
561.50http://members.aol.com/StevenOwen/concerts.htmCONSLT::OWENStop Global WhiningThu Dec 28 1995 11:159
561.51AOL access number?KISMIF::KISMIF::JEMIOLOWed Apr 24 1996 19:238
561.52Nada.STAR::KRSNA::DKOSKOPerfection is the greatest enemy of the goodWed Apr 24 1996 20:4211
561.53QUARK::LIONELFree advice is worth every centWed Apr 24 1996 20:495
561.54SMURF::PBECKRob Peter and pay *me*...Wed Apr 24 1996 21:2313
561.55SOLVIT::ALLEN_Ron the pointThu Apr 25 1996 02:412
561.56http://www.netcom.com/bin/popinfo?state=MassachusettsSMURF::PBECKRob Peter and pay *me*...Thu Apr 25 1996 03:562
561.57STAR::KRSNA::DKOSKOPerfection is the greatest enemy of the goodThu Apr 25 1996 13:0516
561.58Maybe UltraNet?HELIX::WELLCOMESteve Wellcome MRO1-1/L31 Pole HJ33Thu Apr 25 1996 13:273
561.59Maybe TIAC?WHYNOW::NEWMANInstalled Base Marketing - DTN 223-5795Thu Apr 25 1996 13:522
561.60KAHALA::CODYThu Apr 25 1996 14:027
561.61UltraNet offers a Digital discount too....NETCAD::BATTERSBYDon't use time/words carelesslyThu Apr 25 1996 14:0810
561.62my GNN deal is not as goodWHOS01::ELKINDSteve Elkind, Digital Consulting @WHOThu Apr 25 1996 15:5414
561.63RLTIME::COOKThu Apr 25 1996 17:5812
561.64LEFTY::CWILLIAMSCD or not CD, that's the questionThu Apr 25 1996 18:038
561.65RLTIME::COOKThu Apr 25 1996 18:1221
561.66rates in NYC areaWHOS01::ELKINDSteve Elkind, Digital Consulting @WHOThu Apr 25 1996 21:0113
561.67Population density has a lot to do with rates tooNETCAD::BATTERSBYDon't use time/words carelesslyThu Apr 25 1996 21:157
561.68QUARK::LIONELFree advice is worth every centFri Apr 26 1996 00:474
561.69using network based modems ??FIREBL::LEEDSFrom VAXinated to AlphaholicMon May 27 1996 21:498
561.70You mean TCP?HOTLNE::DITue May 28 1996 13:397
561.71AOL and attachments after downloadinghndymn.zko.dec.com::MCCARTHYA Quinn Martin ProductionMon Feb 10 1997 10:4015
I did a quick search of this for 'mail' didn't see anything relating to
downloading.

I sent my father an attached jpg file which he viewed correctly via AOL's 
mail interface.  He then downloaded it, called my mother (it was a picture of
my son so he wanted to show it off!) to come look at it and he could no longer 
view the picture.  The text was there (ie "here is a picture of...") but not 
the attached file.

Does AOL's mail leave the attchments on the server ?  Is this an option maybe
(ie don't download the attachment)?

Thanks,

Brian J.
561.72CPCOD::CODYMon Feb 10 1997 12:184
    I have downloaded graphics files from AOL no problem.  What is your
    father using to view the file?
    
    PJ 
561.73stock - no customizationshndymn.zko.dec.com::MCCARTHYA Quinn Martin ProductionMon Feb 10 1997 13:168
>>    I have downloaded graphics files from AOL no problem.  What is your
>>    father using to view the file?

Nothing that I know of - it just showed up - I have no clue how AOL mail works
but I doubt very much he has a "helper app" (NS terms) to display the image.

bjm

561.74Try thisPOBOXA::KEEFERCraig PK03-1/R11, DTN:223-4902Mon Feb 10 1997 14:0012
>>>Does AOL's mail leave the attchments on the server ? Is this an option maybe

By default, AOL downloads the Email without downloading the attachments. There
is an option in the personal preferences that you check that will cause
attachments to be automatically downloaded with the email.

To download manually, log into AOL and bring up the Email message with the
attachment. There should be a "download" button to the left of the Email
message. Clicking on the download button should download the file attached
to the Email message.

-Craig
561.75I figured there had to be a switch !hndymn.zko.dec.com::MCCARTHYA Quinn Martin ProductionMon Feb 10 1997 17:063
Thanks Craig.


561.76AOL via TCP/IPVYGER::KIRKPATRICKIIAN KIRKPATRICK@AYOMon Mar 17 1997 08:0621
    I want to access AOL from work using TCP/IP.
    Instructions from AOL ...
    	Install software
    	change setup to TCP/IP
    	sign-on as new user
    	enter Screenname and password (rather than reg.no/password)
        you're in
    
    Well, not exactly..
        Install OK
        sign-on as new user
    		Initialise TCP/IP
    		then error unable to contact AmericaOnline.aol.com
    
    I noticed note 561.70 said an AOL file needed changed.
    Can you advise whcih file, and what needs to be changed.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Ian Kirkpatrick
     
561.77BHAJEE::JAERVINENOra, the Old Rural AmateurMon Mar 17 1997 09:015
    You need to set up access via a gateway (you're behind a firewall when
    at work).
    
    See http://nsl-too.pa.dec.com/nsl/gateway/
    
561.78How simple can it get?PGREEN::HAYESIIs that a warp nacelle in your pocket...?Mon Mar 17 1997 11:5126
    This is not specifically an AOL query, but it seems relevant.
    
    My in-laws (70+) are keen to get on-line - mainly to be able to e-mail
    sons who are in  NZ and Canada. They are not well off so cost is a
    major factor.
    
    I have given them an old 386/2Mb on which I've loaded Windows 3.1 which
    runs in Standard mode (not enough memory for enhanced - and No! it
    can't be upgraded).
    
    The question is: What service do I get them signed up to?
    
    What they need is a clean (read: easy to understand), simple (read:
    runs quickly enough) e-mail interface with the possiblity of a bit of
    web browsing if/when they get adventurous.
    
    The current round of software from AOL/Compuserve/et al seems not to
    meet either of the above requirements.
    
    If necessary, I'll even set up their system to use a DOS based client.
    
    Any opinions or experiences?
    
    Thanks,
    Ian.
    
561.79Round-about memory upgradesNEWVAX::PAVLICEKhttp://www.boardwatch.com/borgtee2.jpgMon Mar 17 1997 12:2822
    re: no upgrade
    
    If you have one free slot in the system, you could try to find an old
    junky AST Advantage board.  The base board could support up to another
    1.5 (or is it 2?) meg of (slow) memory (at AT bus speed).
    
    I used that trick when my main machine was a 386/SX-40 and I couldn't
    afford to buy new SIMMs (back in the days of $45+US per meg).
    
    It won't run very fast, but it might be enough to get into enhanced
    mode with about 4 meg of memory, if that's the major drawback with the 
    current configuration.
    
    Otherwise, if the motherboard is a standard size (big IF, perhaps), you
    might find some dirt-cheap 386 board at a show which CAN be upgraded
    and swap it out.
    
    Also, you MIGHT squeak by if you install the Linux operating system and
    the text-based Lynx browser, but under the circumstances, a turnkey 
    Windows solution is probably the most friendly solution.
    
    -- Russ
561.80WRKSYS::THOMASStop, look and listenMon Mar 17 1997 13:216
    RE .78
    
    Check out Juno (www.juno.com). Thay have a free E-mail service which 
    works well for a couple of people I know. No web access however.
    
    /Rich
561.81public services?STOWOA::tavo.ogo.dec.com::DiazOctavioMon Mar 17 1997 13:4213
I think you're in the UK, so I don't know if there is something similar in their 
community.

My in-laws are retired in Florida. Similar to you, I set them up with a 386 running 
Windows 3.1. I installed AOL, but two things happened:

1. They grew up with type writers, and have hard time using the mouse and GUIs. They 
prefer ASCII-type menus.

2. Their library system in Florida offers a free access to the library network, that 
is primarily intended for looking up for publications, but also includes a text 
based e-mail system that is enough for their needs, and can't beat the price, so 
after the trial period of AOL, they cancell it.
561.82.-1 reformatted for 80 columnsAXEL::FOLEYhttp://axel.zko.dec.comMon Mar 17 1997 14:0847
	Octavio, please re-size your window to support 80 columns. 
	See the end of this message for some text to do that.

<<< Note 561.81 by STOWOA::tavo.ogo.dec.com::Diaz "Octavio" >>> -< public
services? >-

I think you're in the UK, so I don't know if there is something similar in
their  community.

My in-laws are retired in Florida. Similar to you, I set them up with a
386 running  Windows 3.1. I installed AOL, but two things happened:

1. They grew up with type writers, and have hard time using the mouse and
GUIs. They  prefer ASCII-type menus.

2. Their library system in Florida offers a free access to the library
network, that  is primarily intended for looking up for publications, but
also includes a text  based e-mail system that is enough for their needs,
and can't beat the price, so  after the trial period of AOL, they cancell
it.


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561.83Edit TCP.CCLMKOTS3::TINIUSIt's always something.Mon Mar 17 1997 16:0712
Re: .76

Edit \AOL30\CCL\TCP.CCL and change the line

NetConnect 1 5190 10 AmericaOnline.aol.com

to

NetConnect 1 5190 10 telnet-gw.pa.dec.com

Regards,
-stephen