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Title:File Shelving
Moderator:COOKIE::HOLSINGER
Created:Mon Mar 15 1993
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:346
Total number of notes:1204

344.0. "V2.1 install changes all Modified Dates on system disk" by COMEUP::SIMMONDS (loose canon) Thu May 29 1997 05:45

    Hi..
    
    Weird side-effect of installing V2.1 SSB on OpenVMS Alpha V7.1 as
    update to V2.0MUPA + special HSDRIVER :
    
    _Every_ file on the system disk had it's Modified Date changed to
    the date & time (+ a few minutes) that the installation began!
    (yet the file Revision Count was unchanged)
    
    Anyone else seen such weirdness?
    
    Thanks,
    John
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344.1SETFILENOMOVE might be the causeBACHUS::VERCAMMENYou never walk alone...Thu May 29 1997 09:0012
     John,
    
    
    I think this is due to the execution of the SETFILENOMOVE.COM
    	procedure, which is asked for during the installation.
    	If you answer 'YES', it will change the file characteristics
    	of (most) files on the system disk (NOMOVE attribute).
    
    Regards,
    
    
    	\Jan
344.2hmmm could be..COMEUP::SIMMONDSloose canonThu May 29 1997 21:585
    Jan, yes, that could well be it.. I will ask the person who installed
    HSM V2.1 whether that question arose and how they answered it..
    
    Thanks,
    John.
344.3nothing in Rel. Notes, but...COMEUP::SIMMONDSloose canonThu May 29 1997 22:4110
    Just spoke to the installer and she says there was no question about
    SETFILENOMOVE , just one question about using (or not) the existing HSM
    Catalogue file..
    
    I just noticed that all files on the system disk have been set 
    "Not Shelvable" ..
    Does the HSM installation do this?
    
    Thanks,
    John.
344.4HSM inst. performs SET FILE/NOSHELVABLE ATZIS3::KARTNER_MHOUSTON, we have a problemFri May 30 1997 04:278
       Yes indeed !
    
        The HSM installation process will perform a SET FILE/NOSHELVABLE
    	on OpenVMS system files but not on layered product files. Please
        check the modification dates of your layered products
    
                                                    hope this helps
                                                            Michael
344.5undocumented side-effectCOMEUP::SIMMONDSloose canonFri May 30 1997 05:015
    Re: .4
    
    Thanks.. So _why_ isn't this Documented in the V2.1 Release Notes??
    
    John.
344.6See HSM for OpenVMS Guide to OperationsATZIS3::KARTNER_MHOUSTON, we have a problemMon Jun 02 1997 05:5613
    Hi!
    
    This behaviour is stated in the 
    
    	HSM for OpenVMS Guide to Operations
    	6.5.2 OpenVMS System Files and System Disks Page 6-5
    
    								bye
    								Michael
    
    PS.: By  the way after a product update a full backup of the
    	 system disk has to be done anyway ;-) so whats the problem
    	 with the changed modification dates?
344.7topic shelved..COMEUP::SIMMONDSloose canonThu Jun 05 1997 05:155
    Re: .6
    
    Michael, Thanks for your help in clearing this query up!
    
    John.