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Conference netcad::hub_mgnt

Title:DEChub/HUBwatch/PROBEwatch CONFERENCE
Notice:Firmware -2, Doc -3, Power -4, HW kits -5, firm load -6&7
Moderator:NETCAD::COLELLADT
Created:Wed Nov 13 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4455
Total number of notes:16761

3121.0. "DECswitch lossing 900HUB connections" by CSC32::L_MORSE () Thu Jan 04 1996 15:34

    
    
    A customer lost power to a 900HUB.  They could no longer see
    LAT services on DS900TM units in that hub.  They have a DS900EE
    connecting the HUB to the LAN segment with the LAT service
    nodes.  We noticed the Stubs of the DECswitch to be not connected
    to the backplan LAN.  We made the connections with Hubwatch just fine.
            
    The customer will get to the latest version of firmware for all
    modules, and the MAM and test.  We have seen the same behavior on 
    one of two 900HUB's at the CSC, we have the lastest firmware.  Is 
    there a problem with the HUB and the DECswitch units losing 
    to the HUB LAN connections ?  
    
    
    Larry Morse
    
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3121.1NETCAD::MILLBRANDTanswer mamThu Jan 04 1996 16:138
> Is there a problem with the HUB and the DECswitch units losing 
> to the HUB LAN connections ?  

Depends on how old your firmware is.  Significant work was done
in this area in general for DMHUB versions 4.0.x and 4.1.  The
upgrade may solve the problem.

	Dotsie
3121.2I have 4.1 releaseMLNORO::ORIANAWed Jan 10 1996 15:4313
	Hi,
	I have v4.1 DEChub 900MS firmware, but if I hot swapped the 
	DECswitch 900EF, the module looses the connections to the hub
	backplane. I have to reconfigure the DECswitch ports.
	
	For my customer this is a big problem.
	Any suggestion will be apreciated. 

	thanks 
	
	Monica Oriana
	
3121.3NETCAD::DOODYMichael DoodyWed Jan 10 1996 15:5925
    Monica, 
    
    If "FDDI Auto Healing" is turned off (this is the default), the
    behavior you describe is expected and intended. This is true of 
    all modules.
    
    If "FDDI Auto Healing" is turned on, in order for an FDDI module's
    backplane configuration to be restored, it must be the same kind of
    module (same SysObjectId) and it must be part of an FDDI ring on the
    backplane. This is true of any FDDI module including the 900EF. If both
    FDDI port are directed out the front, it behaves like a non-FDDI module
    in respect to Auto Healing.
    
    Unfortunately, there is an added restriction where if you swap a
    DECbridge 900MX for a DECswitch 900EF (or vice versa)  it is treated as
    a different kind of module (they have different sysObjectId's) and the
    configuration if not restored.
    
    
    In a future version of the MAM, we will be including an "Auto Restore"
    capability that will work for all module types, regardless of their LAN
    affiliations. And the 900MX / 900EF will be treated as equivalent.
    
    -Mike
    
3121.4MLNORO::ORIANAThu Jan 11 1996 11:3711
	
	Ciao Mike,

	if "FDDI Auto Healing" is turned on I'm able to save the connections
	of the modules with the Dual Ring internal to Hub, but I have to 
        reconfigure the connections of SM type. Is this a correct behaviour?
	And what about the ports with Ethernet internal to hub?

	thanks for your help. 

	Monica Oriana
3121.5NETCAD::DOODYMichael DoodyThu Jan 11 1996 11:5710
	>but I have to reconfigure the connections of SM type.
    
    		Not sure what you mean here. If you have configured an FDDI
    	module with tree backplane connections ( S and M ) they will be
    	restored. They must be connected to another module on the 
    	backplane for this to work. Just the same as rings (A,B)
    
    	Ethernet ports on the DECbridge 900MX and DECswitch 900EF 
    	will be restored as well. Repeaters are not involved (til the next
    	release).
3121.6MLNORO::ORIANAThu Jan 11 1996 12:3624
	
	Ciao,
	Thanks for your answer.
	Probablu I'm doing something wrong.

	I have configured my DEChub 900MS as following:
	slot 1: DECswitch 900EF with port 1 Dual Ring Internal to HUB
			             port 3 Ethernet internal to Hub connected 
		                            to Thinwire.
	slot 5: DEConcentrator 900MX with Dual Ring internal to HUB
	slot 7: DEConcentrator 900MX with S external and M internal to HUB
        slot 8: DECrepeater 90C

	FDDI Auto Healing Enable

	If I hot swap off the DECswitch  900 EF and then I reinsert the
	same module in the same slot, I can save the connection to Dual Ring
	but I loose the port 3 Ethernet connection of the DECswitch 900EF 
	and the M connection of the DEConcentrator 900MX.
	What is wrong?

	thanks again

	Monica
3121.7NETCAD::DOODYMichael DoodyThu Jan 11 1996 13:1614
	>but I loose the port 3 Ethernet connection of the DECswitch 900EF 
    		This should work. Maybe you have found a bug. You said you
    		have v4.1 of the MAM FW. What is the switch + concentrator
    		FW versions? I will try to reproduce the problem.
    	
	>and the M connection of the DEConcentrator 900MX.

    		This M port is not connected to anything; so you have lost
    		nothing. To be restored it must be connected to an
    		S port of another module on the backplane.
    
    
    	Regards,
    	-Mike
3121.8MLNORO::ORIANAThu Jan 11 1996 13:409
	thanks a lot for your answer.

	I have installed the Bridge Router SW v1.0 (RouteAbout SW).
	
	thanks again

	ciao
	Monica