Conference netcad::hub_mgnt

>    In a previous NOTE, I've read that the HUBwatch package might also
>    include PROBEwatch. Will it be concreat ?

In the future (V4 or later) PROBEwatch will be launchable by HUBwatch, but
I haven't heard anything about packaging the two of them together.

Tom Hood
HUBwhy

    
    To .1,
    
    Thank you. What about teh OSF1 version of PROBEwatch ??
    
    Renato
    
    

	I can't give you a PROBEwatch for OSF date anymore; the money to 
	pay for porting it got cut from the FY95 budget. I'm looking for 
	alternative means of paying for the port, but I don't have the 
	answer yet.

	Monitor NAC::NIPG:[MANAGE]STATUS.TXT for a new date.

We have a lot of customers which are very interested in Probewatch.
I have shown probewatch to several customers on Ultrix. But they do not 
want Ultrix, they need either OSF/1 ( Netview customers, new Digital 
customers ), or VMS ( DECmcc customers ).
Probewatch for Ultrix is a dead product, in the eyes of most customers.

If we want to make business, we need OSF/1 and VMS versions.

Regards,
Karl

Hey guys,

What line do we follow? What strategie do we have? Whats going on with you?

We have to tell our customer that OSF is the future, OSF its the way ....
We sell integrated tools, but we do not get the integration. Is it better to 
sell HP OPENview for the future? As I know they are able to integrate!! Jack, 
do you know how many projects are decided about Management. If we are not able 
to do such easy things like port a ULTRIX SW to OSF (Our marketing tells to all 
customer how easy this is), we should better finish the shutdown.

Please Jack could you give us some words about your strategie? What should we 
sell in the future? What should we tell the customer. Here in Switzerland we 
have some customers, just waiting for the OSF version. They desided to buy 
Polycenter and not HP or SUN, because they belived in DEC ???!!!........



Roland

    
    Here in the U.K. we have similar issues to thise mentioned in .-1.
    
    We have an evaulation unit on-site at Glaxo U.K. running NetView and
    customers top priority is ProbeWATCH.. We need the OSF/1 version asap.
    November is too late. HP OpenView has already been evaulated and
    implemented in the rest of the Glaxo organisation.
    
    Please keep us informed of progess of the port and any influence that
    large global account groups can assert to speed this process.
    
    Regards
    

I strongly agree with Roland (note 1205.5). We've been telling customers that
OSF/1 is the platform for network management, and now you tell us we can't
afford to port Probewatch. In my opinion, if we intend to stay in the network
management business, we cant afford NOT to port Probewatch.

Lars

    I also can not believe this. I work on a facilities management contract
    that is worth millions to DEC every year. We must deliver quality
    management of the customers network so therefore need good tools.
    
    We had proposed to the customer that we would manage there network with
    an integrated solution using netview.  Having to run Cisco works has
    already meant that we have had to buy a Sun / SunNet Manager to manage
    the routers. Now this probe is looking a bit like it also will not fit
    our view for managing the network.
    
    Managing the network with Netview, DECmcc and SunNet Manager is proving
    to be a major overhead when I think we can do it all with SunNet
    Manager. 
    
    This is going to make it very hard for the sales people around here to
    sell network management tools to any customers when we do not use the
    tools ourselves to manage large networks.
    

    John Murphy
               

    
    
    	If you need a solution today, you might want to use TEC Netprofessor
    or RMON probes.  It runs under OSF/1 and is integrated with Netview.  It
    also is up to three ports so you can manage three segments with one
    probe (nice since ours can't channel hop).
    
    
    Scott
    

John,

Me too with my UK customer. Further more, with the evaluation unit, they 
have stated 'PNV is the best IP management tool we have evaluated, much 
better than HP OV'. We're suceeding with the base unit but where's the 
value add appns?

>    Managing the network with Netview, DECmcc and SunNet Manager is proving
>    to be a major overhead when I think we can do it all with SunNet
>    Manager. 

Same issue, along with needing CiscoWorks, Optivity, (given these companies 
don't want to Tango at present), Hubwatch, ProbeWatch, 
the whole gambit! Also, we need to be building RMON into the actual 
hardware (like Cabletron customer is buying as benefit is RMON support 
built into unit). BTW, as with rest of replies, don't shoot me, 
this is customer feedback on what they need from DEC in the form of a 
Netview INTEGRATED platform,

Regards, Martin

	In Finland we have demoed ProbeWatch to quite a few customers,
	and they have been very interested in it. The problem is that
	they do not even consider buying it on Ultrix, but want it on
	OSF/1. 

	Please give us the product on OSF/1!


	Regards,
	
	Pirjo

    
    Can some-one please confirm the latest schedule for Probewatch/Digital
    UNIX support.
    
    Thank you.
    
    David.

    It will definitiely be released to SSB in July.

    Hi has it been released if so is their an spd / part no yet
    
    regards John
    

    It has not yet been released, but should be orderable now for 
    delivery in 4-6 weeks.
    
    QL-217A9-AA   PROBEwatch U/A TRAD LIC                 4,845.00
    QA-217AA-H8   PROBEwatch U/A CDRM KIT        	    150.00 
    
    
    The SPD number is 46.02.
    
    jack