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Title:DEChub/HUBwatch/PROBEwatch CONFERENCE
Notice:Firmware -2, Doc -3, Power -4, HW kits -5, firm load -6&7
Moderator:NETCAD::COLELLADT
Created:Wed Nov 13 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4455
Total number of notes:16761

3173.0. "Can StackableHub supports 1 Logical Repeater?" by TLAV01::WITTAYAJ () Thu Jan 18 1996 03:45

    Hello all,
    	I will propose Stackable HUB with DECrepeater90FS and DECrepeater
    90T-16 to customer. I do not know a some specificatons that customer
    write in bidding specification and our StackableHub can fix it.
    The specification is " The StackableHub module must set to be
    1 Logical Repeater". Could you tell me what the 1 Logical Repeater is?
    
 Thanks a lot,
 Best Regards,
    TONY.
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3173.1Managed as a single entity?SNOFS1::KHOOJEANNIEHumpty Dumpty was pushedThu Jan 18 1996 04:1014
    They could mean that they want the stack to only count as 1 repeater
    hop in the Ethernet (IEEE 802.3 Transmission Model 1) rules.  In this case,
    the MultiStack would count as 2 hops, i.e. to get from an FS port to a T-16
    port, you go from the FS to the thinwire (1 hop) and then from the thinwire
    to the T-16 (another hop).
    
    (I'm not sure how the MultiStack rates against Transmission Model 2 ???)
    
    But I would take it to mean that they want to manage the stack
    as a single logical unit,  and in that case, we comply, as the 90FS
    proxy manages the T-16 and it all looks like one domain in HUBwatch.
    
    Jeannie
    
3173.2What is Transmission Model 2 ?TLAV02::WITTAYAJThu Jan 25 1996 00:318
    Thanks a lot,
       What do you mean about Transmission Model 2 ?
       Is it 1 repeater hop such as two DECrepeater900TMs in the same 
    Flexible (IMB) channel in HUB900 can do 1 repeater delay time ( I mean
    propagation time ) ?
    
    Bye 
    Tony. 
3173.3Model 2 ...SNOFS1::KHOOJEANNIEHumpty Dumpty was pushedThu Jan 25 1996 03:5516
    Hi Tony
    
    Model 1 and 2 are two different methods for verifying the operation of
    802.3 networks.
    
    Model 1 provides configuration rules in terms of repeater hops
    (the primary rule is that there shall be no more than 4 repeaters
    and 5 segments between any two nodes), whereas Model 2 tends to be
    used for more complex Ethernet configurations - it deals with
    maintaining an acceptable round trip signal propagation delay and
    interframe gap shrinkage (for which you have to calculate end-to-end values
    for path delay and segment variability over the entire network path).
    
    All the best
    Jeannie
                
3173.4First paragraph of .1 was correctNETCAD::HERTZBERGHistory: Love it or Leave it!Thu Jan 25 1996 13:087
    >>  Is it 1 repeater hop such as two DECrepeater900TMs in the same 
    >>  Flexible (IMB) channel in HUB900 ...
    
    No, it is not.  The multistack products cannot make two physical 
    repeaters act as one logical repeater.  It always takes a hop to get
    from any front panel port to the thinwire backbone, so there are two
    hops between front panel ports in different modules in the stack.