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Conference netcad::hub_mgnt

Title:DEChub/HUBwatch/PROBEwatch CONFERENCE
Notice:Firmware -2, Doc -3, Power -4, HW kits -5, firm load -6&7
Moderator:NETCAD::COLELLADT
Created:Wed Nov 13 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4455
Total number of notes:16761

3790.0. "WIN95 -> SLIP -> OBM ?" by EVOA00::DISCHLI () Tue Aug 13 1996 14:56

Hi,

I am trying to run hubwatch on windows 95 by connecting my pc to the HUB's
slip port with a null modem cable.

When configuring a dial-up networking client  WIN95 insist on a modem.

Is it possible to use the OBM port on the HUB's using null modem cable with 
WINDOWS 95 ?

If so, what are the steps.


Thanks
    
  Bertrand
    
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3790.1You can do it!NETRIX::"mark.wu@shg.mts.dec.com"Mark WuWed Aug 14 1996 11:5310
  Hi, It is no problem.
  I always use Win95/Hubwatch to config the HUB900,
  I also use Slip--OBM to config the HUB900.
  It is very simple just like normal operate.
  But make sure the RS232 cable is a cross-over cable.

Best/Regards
                                    Mark Wu 8/13
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3790.2How???SNOFS1::KHOOJEANNIEPoles are the best post-impressionistsThu Aug 15 1996 00:139
    What are the steps you took to do this?
    
    I have installed SLIP from the Win95 CD, and in dial-up networking I
    can choose between PPP and SLIP, but I don't know how to make a null
    modem work either.  Have tried Control Panel-Modems but this doesn't
    have null modem listed.
    
    Jeannie
    
3790.3Microsoft Does not support this.NETRIX::"vlathia@lkg.dec.com"Vijay LathiaFri Aug 16 1996 19:1319
I work in the clearVISN/MCM group and I had tried to this on both
Windows-NT and Windows-95 platform with the SLIP/TCP/IP software
that microsoft provides.

What I found was that:  Windows-95 does not support SLIP in the
manner in which we want to use it with the HUB and MCM.
Windows-NT's SLIP is configurable, such that you can choose "null
-modem" and it also allows to invoke a SLIP session without using
a telephone #.  For Windows-NT, the set-up instructions are already
provided in the MCM on-line doc.

Microsoft response response/excuse for this is:
  WIN-NT is a Network Operating System  and
  WIN-95 is a Desktop Operating System with limited networking support.

Vijay Lathia
508-486-6668
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3790.4Win95 SLIPHGOM19::MARKWUMon Aug 19 1996 01:024
    Win95 have a extend pack, that include SLIP,
    So if you want to use SLIP,please install the extend pack95.
    
    that's all.
3790.5Mark: Could you provide more info.NETRIX::"vlathia@lkg.dec.com"Vijay LathiaTue Aug 20 1996 19:3626
Mark:

Is the extended software, pack95 you mentioned, from Microsoft?
OR is it the Microsoft Plus for WIN95?

In your case, after installing the extended pack95, were you 
able to connect PC as

       (PC)---------[HUB-900]
               ^
              RS-232
              Null-Modem Cable
              to HUB OBM port

Or you had a different setup?  Does this setup have Null-Modem
for modem choice and does the SLIP sofotware allow to have a
SLIP connection without using a phone #?

Pls respond with more detail, since lot of external customers
and internal DEC folks have WIN-95 and they would like to use
this capability if it works.

Vijay Lathia.
508-486-6668

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3790.6Here is Mark Wu's further response..NETRIX::"vlathia@lkg.dec.com"vlathiaFri Aug 23 1996 15:4745
Based on the Mark's response below, WIN-95 does not support
the direct SLIP.  One can develop a custom modem drivers
using MS-WIN-DDK(Driver Developer Kit).  ClearVISN development
group's view is: if Microsoft readily supports it, we will
document it, otherwise there are no plans to develop custom
drivers.

Vijay Lathia
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Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 04:09:00 GMT
From: "MARK WU @SHG" <"MARK WU"@A1.HGOM19.SHG.mts.dec.com>
Subject: RE: Win95 SLIP
To: VMSMail User vlathia <vlathia@56348.MRGATE.mts.dec.com>
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Vlathia:

	Hi, I am Mark.

	I am sorry that I have a mistake in Win95-Slip.
	You are right the Win95-doesn't support direct-Slip.

	But I found something that you can have a read 
			if you have Win95-DDK :

	In "\Win95\INF" have some modem INF files that define the
	modem's init,dial,hangup command etc.

	In "\Win95\system" there have a VXD that control the modem's
	hardware named "UNIMODEM.VXD".

	So if you want to have a direct-link use slip,just add a modem
	at COM1 in contrl-panel,
	then modify the UNIMODEM.VXD's child process :
		like _Dial; _Setup; ......
 

Best/Regards
					Mark WU. 8/21
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