Conference netcad::hub_mgnt

>   It turns out that half the functions required are not available in the 
>   HUBwatch product - Spanning Tree Disable, TRAPS etc. - and the MIBS are 
>   required to enable these controls. In trying to compile the ELAN and 
>   GIGAswitch MIBS into the Sun it accepted the ELAN one but errors on the G/S 

Rog, *every* V4.1 of HUBwatch on *every* platform supprts the same stuff.

Traps are not a part of HUBwatch.

See other notes from the past week or so about GIGAswitch managment.

For information about futures, you need to (everybody, all together
now) contact our product manager, Jack NAC::Forrest.


Tom Hood
clearVISN

Tom,

  Although some of .0's questions are for Jack Forrest, the one about
management is pertinent today.

~~   Q? Where does ManageWORKS (or is that ServerWORKS ???) feature in the 
~~   HUBwatch/ClearVISN storyline ?

  There's a lot of confusion in the field and in my head concerning, for
example, the overlap between ManageWORKS and Polycenter NetView. HUBwatch
is an entity manager, but ClearVISN (still no I/O ;-)) seems to be more
ambitious - so the picture gets even more complicated.

  A simple view would be that:

	o ManageWORKS is for PCs 
          - but what about all the network discovery & MIB browser stuff?

	o ClearVISN is for managing NPBU things
	  - but what about the StonyBrook bit that brings 3Com etc. into the
            picture?

	o Polycenter NetView is the solution when it comes to managing a
          complex network
	  - but can't you do that with ManageWORKS and ClearVISN?

  As you can see, some clarification from people "in the know" is needed...

Regards,

-John 

    Jack is *still* the right person.  At the recent field training
    done in Bedford, Mass, these points were all covered.  Perhaps
    you could convince Jack to post his answers here? ;-{)}
    
    Tom

        One model that might be helpful

                        Polycenter/NetView    <--- Enterprise Mgr

 Client/Server->  ServerWORKS       clearVISN <-- Network Infrastructure Mgr
    Manager
  
                             HUBwatch      <-- Entity/Element/Device
                                                Mgr

    There is obviously some overlap in functionality among the various
    products mentioned here. Even before we threw in clearVISN, there was
    overlap between POLYCENTER NetView and ManageWORKS. ServerWORKS totally
    overlapped ManageWORKS. Overlap is a fact of life when you are focusing
    on different markets. Of course if the overlap is greater than 50%, it
    doesn't make sense to have separate products - which is why ManageWORKS
    and ServerWORKS are combining forces.
    
    As far as the clearVISN overlap with ManageWORKS and NetView, our focus
    is the network infrastructure - primarily composed of Digital hardware. 
    We don't expect anyone to buy clearVISN, unless they have Digital
    Network hardware to manage. Many of the same kinds of tools apply here
    as apply for NetView and ManageWORKS - i.e. mapping, alarming, MIB
    browsing, etc. 
    
    In the market for network infrastructure hardware, we can't ask every
    customer to buy ManageWORKS or NetView - it's just seen as too
    proprietary compared to the competing hardware vendors who are
    supporting several of the leading management stations. We also have a
    significant number of customers who aren't ready to invest in a high
    end NMS, but still who would like mapping, alarming, etc.
    
    We are talking with both ServerWORKS and NetView people to see how we
    might be able to bundle things together in an integrated fashion. Our
    goal is that when you install clearVISN, and an NMS platform is
    present, then we augment the topology and alarming information rather
    than replace it or conflict with it. That will take a lot of work on
    our part because each NMS is different.
    
    Also note that we are planning anything more than a launch on the Unix
    NMS's that we support. 

   Jack
 
   This recent Press Release doesn't help us in the Field re: the earlier 
   entries in this string... Neither does it if the intention is to "divest" in 
   some of the ports in the near future in favour of ClearVISN on NT !
   									      
   									      
   									      
   								    CORP/96/219
 
                   Digital Expands UNIX Support for
                     HUBwatch Management Software
 
 MAYNARD, Mass., March 11, 1996 -- Digital Equipment Corporation 
 today announced availability of HUBwatch network management software 
 for HP-UX, Sun-OS and IBM AIX UNIX platforms, making it easier for 
 HP OpenView, SunNet Manager and NetView AIX users to integrate 
 Digital's networking products into their existing network management 
 structure.
 
      HUBwatch provides a powerful, low-cost, graphical Simple 
 Network Management Protocol (SNMP) interface that makes it easy to 
 configure and manage a broad range of Digital's networking hardware, 
 from the complete DEChub family to the industry-leading 
 GIGAswitch/FDDI product.  HUBwatch software is also available for 
 Digital UNIX, OpenVMS (VAX), and Microsoft Windows platforms. 
 
      "HUBwatch is very popular because of its intuitive 
 point-and-click graphical interface, which is common across 
 Digital's many network products," said Jack Forrest, product manager 
 for HUBwatch.  "Until today, customers with HP, Sun or IBM UNIX 
 management environments ran HUBwatch as a standalone application.  
 Now they can integrate HUBwatch into their management environment, 
 enabling them to manage more of their network from a single 
 platform." 
 
 About HUBwatch
 
      HUBwatch is best value in full-range management applications
 on the market today.  Designed to meet the critical needs of a
 changing network, HUBwatch includes simple point-and-click commands,
 descriptive icons and context-sensitive help to ensure easy 
 management by even a non-technical person. 
 
      For maximum flexibility, HUBwatch can be installed as an add-on
 application to existing management systems or as a standalone
 application.  It supports: 
 
      o DEChub modules
      o Digital MultiStack System
      o GIGAswitch/FDDI
      o Software configurable virtual local area networks (VLANs), 
        in conjunction with the DEChub 900 MultiSwitch and 
        PORTswitch modules.
 
 Pricing and Availability
 
      HUBwatch is available now for HP-UX and Sun SPARCstation 
 platforms. HUBwatch will be available on the IBM AIX platform in 60 
 days. HUBwatch is priced at $2,732 for all supported UNIX platforms. 
 
      Digital Equipment Corporation is the world's leader in open
 client/server solutions from personal computing to integrated
 worldwide information systems.  Digital's scalable Alpha platforms,
 storage, networking, software and services, together with industry-
 focused solutions from business partners, help organizations compete 
 and win in today's global marketplace. 
                                 ####
 Note to Editors:  Digital, the Digital logo, DEChub, HUBwatch, VAX, 
                   GIGAswitch/FDDI and OpenVMS are trademarks of 
                   Digital Equipment Corporation.  UNIX is a 
                   registered trademark in the United States and
                   other countries licensed exclusively throughout 
                   X/Open Company Ltd. HP OpenView, HP-UX, SunNet 
                   Manager, Sun SPARCstation, Sun OS, NetView and IBM 
                   AIX are the property of their respective owners. 
 
 CORP/96/219
 
      Linda Pugliano
      (508) 486-6617
      pugliano@delni.enet.dec.com