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Conference netcad::hub_mgnt

Title:DEChub/HUBwatch/PROBEwatch CONFERENCE
Notice:Firmware -2, Doc -3, Power -4, HW kits -5, firm load -6&7
Moderator:NETCAD::COLELLADT
Created:Wed Nov 13 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4455
Total number of notes:16761

3334.0. "Questions for you field types..." by NETCAD::THAYER () Wed Mar 06 1996 20:02

	Can you field types give a little feedback on typical
	installations you see at customer sites?

	1) What fraction of 90 and 900 modules go into hubs vs standalone?

	2) What fraction of 90 and 900 modules go into equipment closets
	   vs offices?

	3) Are there any particular modules, especially 900 modules, 
	   which are more likely to end up in offices?



			Thanks,  John
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3334.1A li'l late, but...RTP4ME::GALLAGHERPut me in coach!Mon Mar 11 1996 14:1616
    
    I'm an onsite resident at only one customer, so this is a limited
    reply:
    
    1)  All modules here are installed in hubs.
    	 4 - agents
    	15 - DEChub 90's
    	 1 - DEChub 900
    
    2)  All hubs are strategically layout in equipment closets
    
    3)  No, the customer has a policy that all network equipment to
    	located in a secure environment.
    
    You're welcome,
    Ed
3334.2From a SE's perspectiveBSS::RIGGENMon Mar 18 1996 18:1418
            1) What fraction of 90 and 900 modules go into hubs vs
               standalone?
    
    I usually sell about a 75% of modules in HUB chassis. 25% would be
    standalone. 
    
            2) What fraction of 90 and 900 modules go into equipment
               closets vs offices?
    
    90% of the time the equipment is installed in a Equipment Closet or
    Rackmount design. 
    
            3) Are there any particular modules, especially 900 modules,
               which are more likely to end up in offices?
    If any module has been sold into office configurations it would be the
    Roamabout Access Point product. In the 900 family it would be a PE Switch.
    
                          
3334.3Telephone Survey ResultsSNOFS1::KHOOJEANNIEHumpty Dumpty was pushedThu Mar 21 1996 01:0798
    Hi John
    
    Not all of this is relevant, but may be of interest if you haven't
    already seen it:
    
    Through a survey recently administered world-wide to DEChub 90/900
    customers, information was compiled to help us determine how customers
    configure DEChub products and how the flexibility of standalone to
    chassis configuration contributed to the customer buying patterns. 
    
    Of those surveyed 30% have never transferred a module, while 53% have 
    rarely and 15% sometimes have (less than 3-6 times per year) moved a
    module from standalone configuration to a chassis.  If a module is moved, 
    75% of the time it is from standalone/stackable to the chassis. 
    
    The result is - flexibility is an important marketing message but
    often not how the product is actually used.
    
    Of the customers surveyed only 30% currently have Digital stackable
    hubs in their networks.   In the near future 61% will add stackable hubs to
    their networks.  When the customers adds standalone/stackable configurations
    to their networks, six out of 7 times it will be to accommodate a remote
    site.
    
    When the customer was asked why they moved a module from its original 
    configuration to a chassis configuration, the most often stated
    reason was was a change in user environment: an increase the
    in number of connections needed, or the need to start small and grow.  
    I believe the remote site will grow beyond the stackable - more
    connections will be needed and chassis will be used.
    
    Will this change the behavior of the customer??
    
    Per the customer response, over the next 24 months the average number
    of module migration moves will increases by 46% while 46% will stay the
    same. 
    
    Although our customers are not actually moving modules today, they tend
    to believe they will in the future. 
    
    Backup Information - 
    
    Sample of the Worldwide Customers Surveyed:
    Maher Terminal
    Oracle
    Glaxo Wellcome
    Alcatel Italia
    Sagit Unilever
    Bank of Switzerland
    Liverpool Hospital
    
    93% of the surveys were answered by the network manager
    
    Characteristics of the network configuration of those surveyed: 
    76%    headquarters/campus facility 
    16%    a remote site of a large enterprise
     8%    a single site network	
    
    Total number of  sites supported between 1-50
    
    Total number nodes supported 150-15,000
    
    Percent of network currently comprised of: 
    
    45% had only DEChub 900s 	
     7% had only DEChub 90s  	
    48% had mixed 90/900 environments
    
    Note:  When the environment consisted of mixed 90/900 chassis,  the
    trend of the mix was a heavier concentration on 90 with a sprinkling of
    DEChub 900 chassis.
    
    A SAMPLING OF STATISTICIAL FACTS SHOWING HOW DECHUB PRODUCTS ARE
    CONFIGURED
    
    DEChub 90-series are used in a chassis configuration 90% of the time
    while, only 10% are used in a standalone or/stackable configuration.
    
    DEChub 900 MS modules are used in DEChub 900 chassis 99%.  Our
    customers surveyed are NOT using 900 modules as standalone modules.
    
    Flexibility (the ability to move a module from chassis to standalone or 
    standalone to chassis)  had little to no influence in purchase decision
    62% of the time, 38% of the time flexibility became a factor in the
    purchase decision. 
    
    Modules are transferred on average from standalone/stackable 
    configuration to a chassis  	
    
     0%  Often  		(7-10 time per year)    
    15%  Sometimes 	  	(3-6   times per year)   
    53%  Rarely 		(less than twice)
    30%  Never 
    
    If a module is moved, 75% of the time it is from standalone/stackable
    to the chassis.
    
                               
3334.4commentWOTVAX::GREENRCuriosity Killed The CatThu Mar 21 1996 18:2239
    John,
    my responses >
    
     Can you field types give a little feedback on typical
            installations you see at customer sites?
    
            1) What fraction of 90 and 900 modules go into hubs vs
    standalone?
    
    > My views based upon numbers via my distributor and reseller
    discussions 
    90 modules = 5% Standalone was nearer 15% but most now multistack conf
    		= 35% Stackable
    		= 60% In 90 or 900 chassis
    (Still seeing large numbers sold into chassis but proportions
    changing slowly towards stackable config)
    
    >900 modules
    		= 10% Standalone
                = 90% Chassis
    (Difficult to measure this one at present due to the poor availability
    of DEChub-ONEs)
            2) What fraction of 90 and 900 modules go into equipment
    closets
               vs offices?
    
    >70% into cabinets
    30% into office environments
            3) Are there any particular modules, especially 900 modules,
               which are more likely to end up in offices?
    
    Most likely modules in office space:
    Stackables Repeaters
    RouteAbout Access
    DECservers
    ROAMabout
    900 series are not generally perceived as cost effective in office
    environments