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Conference netcad::hub_mgnt

Title:DEChub/HUBwatch/PROBEwatch CONFERENCE
Notice:Firmware -2, Doc -3, Power -4, HW kits -5, firm load -6&7
Moderator:NETCAD::COLELLADT
Created:Wed Nov 13 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4455
Total number of notes:16761

2928.0. "Where are those packets going ?" by GIDDAY::MUNN (Slothy Dogs Rule the Earth) Mon Oct 30 1995 20:14

    
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2928.1oops - here is the textGIDDAY::MUNNSlothy Dogs Rule the EarthMon Oct 30 1995 20:151
    
2928.2GIDDAY::MUNNSlothy Dogs Rule the EarthMon Oct 30 1995 20:1754
We are having a problem with something in a DEChub900 which is evading 
isolation.

The DEChub900 is mounted in a rack with an Alphastation 400 4/233. The 
Alpha station is connected to the hub via a DECrepeater 90C (thinwire 
repeater). It is the only device on the repeater. Also in the hub is a 
DECrepeater 90FS (DEFMI) which has 2 fibre pairs and a an AUI. There are 
thress fibres that go out of this repeater, two ont he fibre connectors and 
the third via a FOT on the AUI. In addition there is a DECbrouter90T1 
connected to a 512Kbps serial link to another site which is similar except 
that there is no thinwire repeater nd the alpha server is a 2100/MP500/275. 
It is connected to the hub via fibre.

The problem:

We first noticed the problem when the 400 4/233 NFS mounted a filesystem on 
the 2100. If you did anything that was largish in transfer size, the NSF 
client would inidcate the NFS server was not responding. But if you kept 
the dta size small it was fine. As a simple example, if you 'ls' the root 
of the NFS mount point (about 17 files), response is instant. But if you go 
into a subdirectory with about 700 files and 'ls' it will take over 5 
minutes to get the listing, with several NFS server not responding messages
. I don;t think you could call a directory listing of 800 files a heavy
duty task.

We also came up with another test.

If you ping the 2100 from the 400 all is OK. If you raise the packet size 
to 7000 bytes say, you will start to lose packets, i.e. sequence numbers a 
re skipped. It varies but upto 20 packets are lost before one is echoed.

BTW: The network is dead idle and a similar test from the 2100 to another 
2100 on the net on a 128Kbps line, via two routers passes both tests 
without fault.

Solution:

We can make the problem go away. If we connect the 400 to fibre (via a FOT, 
the 400 hs a DE205 in it), the problem disappears completely.

If we use another machine (a 200 2/233) on the Thinwire, the problem comes 
back. Put the new machine on fibre, it goes away. But if you ping the 400 
from the 200 there appears to be no problem.

By now it sounds pretty clear that the thinwire repeater is at fault except 
for the last test which would seem to indicate it's OK.
We got MCS to replace the thinwire repeater and the problem is still there, 
so it's probably not the repeater.

Any suggestions would be most welcome!!!!

/richard

    
2928.3Let us know if this issue is still being workedKEIKI::WHITEWed Nov 01 1995 03:076
    
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    	and Topic 2906 this conference.
    
    						Bill