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Conference netcad::hub_mgnt

Title:DEChub/HUBwatch/PROBEwatch CONFERENCE
Notice:Firmware -2, Doc -3, Power -4, HW kits -5, firm load -6&7
Moderator:NETCAD::COLELLADT
Created:Wed Nov 13 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4455
Total number of notes:16761

2273.0. "purpose of void frame" by TKTVFS::OHTSUKA_MU () Fri May 12 1995 11:05

  Hi !
 
  What's the purpose of void frame except "ring purge" ?

  There are 5 DEChub900s with one DECswitch and one DECconcent900 each HUB.
  They form one DAS ring with a DECnis600 FDDI board.

  When I monitored traffic on this ring , there are several "viod frame " 
  traffic. 
  All hub module are disabled ring purge . 
  But sorce address of viod frames are each hub modules' one.
  FDDI utilization is very low. (1% by network advisor)

  Thanks .

  
  
  
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2273.1check out FDDI notes file for info on void framesNETCAD::BATTERSBYFri May 12 1995 12:475
    Look in the FDDI notes conf UPSAR::USER$411:[NOTES$LIBRARY]FDDI.NOTE;1
    Read notes 1251.2 and 972.1 for starters. Both these notes (and there
    are others), discuss void frames).
    
    Bob
2273.2NETCAD::B_CRONINFri May 12 1995 12:517
    
    Void frames are also used by stations using Frame Content Independent
    Stripping (also known as Bridge strip mode). This includes most DEC 
    equipment. After transmitting its frames, a station will transmit 1
    void frame, and then give up the token. It will strip frames based
    on a count of the number of frames it transmitted, and will stop
    stripping when the count = 0, or, the void frame is seen. 
2273.3void frames are used with FCISKAOFS::HXMP01::p_savoiePathworks Support CanadaFri May 12 1995 13:2121
Hi,
Void frames are used for frames stripping. There are 2 ways to strip 
frames, one is to check the source address, this method is called Source
Address Match (SAM), the other method is called Frame Content Independent
Stripping (FCIS). FDDI station such as bridges need to use FCIS otherwise
it would have to cache all the source addresses of the nodes connected on
its ports. Digital calls FCIS "Bridge Stripping", one of the screens of
the DECswitch displays this.
If using FCIS, when transmitting,the number of frames transmitted is 
counted, then at the end,it transmits a void frame followed by the token.
When this data comes around the ring back to the station that transmitted
it will strip an equal number of frames from the ring, and it will stop
stripping when:
		1. Frames stripped = frames transmitted
		2. The void frame is received.
		3. When it receives the token
It gets more complicated when frames are lost, maybe somebody else wants
to adventure in that...

Paul Savoie
MCS Support,Canada
2273.4THANKSTKTVFS::OHTSUKA_MUFri May 12 1995 19:472
 Thanks for your quick responce and very useful information reply !!