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Conference netcad::hub_mgnt

Title:DEChub/HUBwatch/PROBEwatch CONFERENCE
Notice:Firmware -2, Doc -3, Power -4, HW kits -5, firm load -6&7
Moderator:NETCAD::COLELLADT
Created:Wed Nov 13 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4455
Total number of notes:16761

2242.0. "How to switch VLAN?" by CHR27::YEUNG (im2bz2p,ru?) Tue May 02 1995 06:20

Is it possible for an application program to send SNMP commands to
a PS900TP to switch a port to another VLAN segment?

Thanks

Tim
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2242.1Check out the Chassis MIB.NETCAD::GALLAGHERTue May 02 1995 12:5010
Yes, it's possible.  It's not easy though.

HUBwatch uses the SNMP to communicate with the Hub Management Agent 
Module (MAM).  HUBwatch reads and sets objects in the Chassis MIB
to perform LAN Hopping.  (The Chassis MIB is available via ftp from
ftp.dec.com.)

Switching LANs is not easy or straightforward.
	
						-Shawn
2242.2ThanksCHR27::YEUNGim2bz2p,ru?Tue May 02 1995 14:116
Thanks.  I'll let the customer know.
They're planning a migration from several thickwires to hubs.
They currently use a blackbox dial to switch LANs.
They want to explore the possibility of using softare.

Tim
2242.3Tom seems a little upset.SLINK::HOODApril showers bring vacation daysTue May 02 1995 14:4322
An often heard quote at each Networks Academy...
"If you sell a DEChub 900 and do not sell at least one copy of HUBwatch..."

> They want to explore the possibility of using softare.
Geez!!!  HUBwatch for Windows is $495!  Guess what!  HUBwatch *is* software.

Yes, any application can do anything in SNMP to any DEChub product.  All the
MIBs are published.  Most people have a "c" compiler to write the code.  And
HUBwatch is nothing more than an application program.  But, it's an application
program developed by the same group that makes the DEChubs.  It is thoroughly
tested.  It has years of development work behind it.  AND IT'S CHEAP!

Save your customer a LOT of money and time.  Tell them to buy HUBwatch.
They don't like Windows?  Great!  We support Digital UNIX and OpenVMS VAX and 
a couple of other external platforms (soon).  It is ludicrous to encourage (or
even to not discourage) a customer from writing their own SNMP controller for
the DEChub 900 family.   Just doing the LAN hopping in HUBwatch is well over
30,000 lines of code!  Do you want your customer to waste their time and
money to do that??? 

Tom Hood
HUBwatch
2242.4My customer is NOT cheapCHR27::YEUNGim2bz2p,ru?Wed May 03 1995 05:1317
The customer already has HUBwatch for managing their 900EE.  Once
they migrate to DEChubs, they'll probably buy a few more DEChub licenses.

They want to write their own applications to switch VLANs because:
    1.	There's no API for HUBwatch.
    2.  They have an application called network monitor that collects
	all network traffic on a LAN.  It is very useful for debugging
	connection and network problems.  The network monitor runs on a
	dual Ethernet 4000/90.  But the customer has half a dozen LANs
	that they can potentially monitor.  They currently use a black
	box switch to select the two networks to monitor.  After migrating
	to DEChubs, they want to explore the possibility for upgrading
	the network monitor to switch the 4000/90 to the desired VLAN.

Thanks.

Tim
2242.5KAOFS::S_HYNDMANRide life's curvesWed May 03 1995 14:389
    
    
    	Sounds like you need port switching and an API into Hubwatch.
    
    Are there any plans for an API for Hubwatch?  I can see were customers
    like this are going to want to take advantage of port switching and lan 
    hopping capabilities long before enVISN has hit the streets.
    
    Scott 
2242.6SLINK::HOODApril showers bring vacation daysWed May 03 1995 14:488
No plans for HUBwatch API.

On the other hand, the backup and restore function will be coming soon.
With it, a customer could take a snapshot of a configuration, change the
configuration, take another snapshot, change it again, and take another
snapshot.  Then, restore any saved configuration at any time.  That should
take care of the reconfiguring-at-night problem.

2242.7KAOFS::S_HYNDMANRide life's curvesWed May 03 1995 17:046
    
    
    Can the saved configuration be loaded via a script or will it take
    someone clicking a mouse?
    
    Scott
2242.8SLINK::HOODApril showers bring vacation daysWed May 03 1995 18:285
Either way.  There is a command line (a cryptic one) for exactly the reasons
your customer wants.  Normal backups or restores would use a GUI.

Tom Hood
HUBwatch