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Conference netcad::hub_mgnt

Title:DEChub/HUBwatch/PROBEwatch CONFERENCE
Notice:Firmware -2, Doc -3, Power -4, HW kits -5, firm load -6&7
Moderator:NETCAD::COLELLADT
Created:Wed Nov 13 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4455
Total number of notes:16761

1909.0. "Hubwatch/FDDI(DEFEA) card problem?" by ZPOVC::RAMARAJ () Thu Jan 19 1995 09:56

    Is there any problem in running Hubwatch with a FDDI/EISA card?
    
    When used with our FDDI/EISA (DEFEA) card, hubwatch installs ok and
    strtndis.bat is ok.
    Pinging to the hubs and modules is ok.
    When is hubwatch is run from windows and the agent address given, a
    No response from agent error is given.
    
    With ethernet card everything is ok.
    
    What is different in FDDI cards and hubwatch?
    
    Raj
    Singapore
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1909.1confirm if FDDI NIC is supported ZPOVC::SINSPSFri Jan 20 1995 09:176
    Hi,
    
    Do we need to escalate this officially to get response ?
    Our customer is breathing down our neck to get this fixed !
    
    - LEH
1909.2Take advantage of the CSC support structureNETCAD::BATTERSBYFri Jan 20 1995 12:125
    If they are breathing that hard, (and perhaps aren't using 
    Listerine) :-), I'd escalate it. That way you will have the
    full support of the resources and information of the CSC folks.
    
    Bob
1909.3We're working on itROGER::GAUDETBecause the Earth is 2/3 waterFri Jan 20 1995 12:2314
RE: .1

My God, it's only been one day since you're original posting!  The notesfile
file is *NOT* the place to make time-critical requests.  We (engineering) try to
get in here to reply to requests as often as possible.  If you're not satisfied
with the response time in here, contact the product manager.

As for your problem with the DEFEA, I have asked the question of the appropriate
people.  The response so far is that he seems to recall someone having a problem
but does not remember the exact situation or solution.  Possibly something to do
with a parameter in PROTOCOL.INI.  As soon as more detail is avaiable, a
response will be posted.

...Roger...
1909.4my appology for mistaken on dateZPOVC::SINSPSMon Jan 23 1995 04:0715
    re .3
    
    >My God, it's only been one day since you're original posting!
    
    My appology. In my haste, I've mistaken the date of posting with
    another one in September last year.
    
    >Possibly something to do with a parameter in PROTOCOL.INI.
    
    Appreciate your assistance. Perhaps you could post copy of a working
    PROTOCOL.INI here ?
    
    Thanks,
    
    - LEH
1909.5One from a working systemROGER::GAUDETBecause the Earth is 2/3 waterMon Jan 23 1995 16:2831
I have attached a copy of the PROTOCOL.INI file from a PC in our system test
area that has a DEFEA installed (and yes, HUBwatch runs fine).  In addition,
here is the list of the relevant files and their dates.

>>> FILES <<<

protman.dos	13366	 4/25/94	 3:07:26pm
defea.dos	34443	 9/23/93	 9:32:08am
dllndis.exe	14627	 7/28/94	 3:35:04pm
netbind.com	 8513	 2/25/94	 4:55:36pm
schk.exe	 6782	 6/28/94	 9:43:42am
tcpip.exe	55467	 7/27/94	 4:50:42pm
tn.exe		52225	  7/6/94	12:39:18pm
bapi.exe	28565	  7/6/94	12:39:32pm

>>> PROTOCOL.INI <<<

[protocol manager]
    DRIVERNAME  = PROTMAN$
 
[DATALINK]
    DRIVERNAME  = DLL$MAC
    LG_BUFFERS  = 14
    SM_BUFFERS  = 6
    OUTSTANDING = 32
    BINDINGS    = DEFEA
    DECPARM     = C:\HUBWATCH\
;;  NI_IRQ      = 5
 
[DEFEA]
    DRIVERNAME =DEFEA$
1909.6still same messageZPOVC::SINSPSTue Jan 24 1995 23:2312
    re .5
    
    Thanks for your fast response.
    
    The customer have checked and verified their files to be similar as
    yours. He had also tried with similar settings in PROTOCOL.INI but the
    error message is still "NO RESPONSE FROM THE AGENT".
    
    Any other ideas ? BTW, he is using DEC3002 FDDI card. Would that make
    any difference ? 
    
    - LEH
1909.7System parameters, maybe?ROGER::GAUDETBecause the Earth is 2/3 waterWed Jan 25 1995 10:207
The only other thing I can think of is to check that the parameters in your
CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT files are set to the minimum values specified in the
HUBwatch READ_ME.TXT file, specifically BUFFERS and FILES.  For V3.1 there do no
appear to be any specific hints regarding the DEFEA but some of the minimum
parameter values for other cards may apply.

...Roger...
1909.8problem solved !ZPOVC::SINSPSThu Jan 26 1995 00:4711
    re .7
    
    Hi Roger,
    
    Although I've not spoke to the customer personally today but received 
    feedback from him that the problem has been solved !
    
    Thank you very much for your effort and help. I supposed we've gain 
    another satisfised customer.
    
    - LEH
1909.9Do tell ...ROGER::GAUDETBecause the Earth is 2/3 waterThu Jan 26 1995 12:406
That's great.  Please tell us what the solution was for the benefit of those who
may encounter similar problems in the future.  We're trying to accumulate and
write up such things in the "Hints on installing..." section of the READ_ME.TXT
file.

...Roger...
1909.10Certainly, once the answer is foundZPOVC::SINSPSFri Jan 27 1995 00:306
    re .9
    
    I would once I'm able to talk to the customer personally. Since the
    problem was solved, he may have went on vacation for couple of weeks.
    
    - LEH
1909.11Good moveROGER::GAUDETBecause the Earth is 2/3 waterFri Jan 27 1995 11:455
>>     problem was solved, he may have went on vacation for couple of weeks.

That would have been my first reaction, too!  :-)

...Roger...
1909.12re-run SETUP script solved !ZPOVC::SINSPSThu Feb 09 1995 04:5816
    re .11
    
    Hi Roger,
    
    I managed to speak to the customer today. 
    
    He mentioned that all he did was to run the SETUP script to let it 
    configure the PROTOCOL.INI file automatically.
    
    Surprisingly, he claimed that it didn't worked when he tried to modify
    the file manually as in my .6 reply. Does that sound possible ?
    
    Otherwise, could there be other files that are taken care and modified 
    by the SETUP script ?
    
    - LEH
1909.13Editiing PROTOCOL.INI is a black artROGER::GAUDETBecause the Earth is 2/3 waterThu Feb 09 1995 12:518
Yeah, it's possible.  The network config files are *VERY* picky about syntax. 
One misplaced character and things just don't work.  And, as your customer found
out, the error messages that appear when attempting to run a network application
are all but useless for helping to determine what is wrong/misconfigured.

I'm glad everything is working again.

...Roger...