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Title:DEChub/HUBwatch/PROBEwatch CONFERENCE
Notice:Firmware -2, Doc -3, Power -4, HW kits -5, firm load -6&7
Moderator:NETCAD::COLELLADT
Created:Wed Nov 13 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4455
Total number of notes:16761

1797.0. "DECrepeater 900FP Collisions Questions" by CSC32::P_DICKERSON () Tue Dec 20 1994 16:10

    
    	I have a customer that would like to know why the collisions
    	he has on a port of a DECrepeater 900FP doesn't propagate to 
    	the other ports of the 900FP like a true repeater would.  All
    	the ports are pointed to one single group.  The port that has
    	the collisions is seeing over 50% collisions rate.  Can anyone 
    	explain to me why the DECrepeater 900FP is different in the 
    	way it handles collisions from other repeaters?
    
    	Phil Dickerson
    	Digital Network Support
      
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1797.1Collision enforcement - not propagationMSE1::SUTTONHe roams the seas in freedom...Tue Dec 20 1994 16:3423
    A collision doesn't propagate; what a repeater does is to enforce the
    collision throughout its' collision domain by sending out a
    96-microsecond 'jam' signal. Digital Equipment repeaters simply use
    alternating 1's and 0's for 96 bit times. This jam signal prevents any
    other stations on those segments from transmitting (unless they're
    broken) until everyone else in the collision domain has stopped.
    
    Repeaters can't "create" collisions on segments; a collision by
    definition is the existence of more than one station transmitting,
    detected by DC levels on the media (for coax) or simultaneous transmit
    and receive activity (for twisted pair or inter-repeater links). When a
    repeater senses a collision on one segment (the 'over 50% collisions
    rate' you mentioned), it sends out a jam signal for 96 microseconds
    (minimum) to ensure that no one on any other port tries to transmit and
    thus perpetuate the collision. So the DECrepeater 900FP is working the
    same way all IEEE802.3-compliant repeaters work: your LAN analyzer
    doesn't report collisions on the other ports, but you will see activity
    on those ports for the duration of the jam signal.
    
    Hope this helps.
    
    	Harry Sutton
    	Multivendor Systems Engineering