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Conference netcad::hub_mgnt

Title:DEChub/HUBwatch/PROBEwatch CONFERENCE
Notice:Firmware -2, Doc -3, Power -4, HW kits -5, firm load -6&7
Moderator:NETCAD::COLELLADT
Created:Wed Nov 13 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4455
Total number of notes:16761

1633.0. "db900mx & IP services" by CSC32::L_MORSE () Fri Oct 28 1994 16:16

    
    	A customer purchased a 900 hub with the db900mx as its IP
    	services module.  I have found that port 3 is the only port
    	that can connect to the internal thinwire and it points out
    	by default. (note 1059.1)  
    
    	How can the user connect to the HUB manager to configure the
    	hub if the only IP services module has its port(s) out by
    	default ?
    
    	The user has a DB90 that connects a thinwire run with the 	
    	hubwatch station to the dechub 900.
    
    	Larry Morse
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1633.1KAOFS::S_HYNDMANAcronym Decoder Ring ArchitectFri Oct 28 1994 18:1510
    
    
    	You could connect a thinwire MAU (the new one, not a desta) to one of 
    the AUI ports on the front pannel of the DECbridge 900 (don't use the
    DB90).  Give the HUB its ip address from the setup port.  Give the
    DB900MX its address by choosing the redirect option from the Hub
    manager.  Now you can access the hub via HUBwatch to point port 3 to
    the thinwire channel.
    
    Scott
1633.2NETCAD::ANILMon Oct 31 1994 21:406
    You do not need to connect anything to the backplane for IP services.
    The MAM does NOT communicate with a module via the thinwire or any
    other backplane LAN -- it does so via a dedicated serial line
    connection to every slot.
    
    Anil
1633.3NETCAD::SLAWRENCEWed Nov 02 1994 14:304
    .-1 is correct so long as the NMS is connected to the db900mx somehow. 
    
    .-2 suggests one way to do that (and eliminate the need for db90)
    
1633.4NETCAD::ANILWed Nov 02 1994 22:1836
    I don't understand the problem..
    
>    .-1 is correct so long as the NMS is connected to the db900mx somehow. 
    
    Why would the NMS not have a path to the db900mx (unless they are
    using OBM in which case no IP service is needed)..  is it because there
    are two unconnected networks, one bridged by the DB90 and one by
    the DB900?  If so, then one definitely should not solve the
    connectivity problem by connecting the DB900 thinwire into the hub
    backplane since this would overwhelm the DB90's workgroup
    side learning capacity.  The right way to have them coexist is
    to connect them through their external ports.
    
>    .-2 suggests one way to do that (and eliminate the need for db90)
    
    The typical customer would probably not toss a DB90 when they get
    a DB900.  Even if they did, they wouldn't need to connect the DB900 to
    the thinwire backplane for IP services.
    
    I've talked with more than one field person who assumed that modules
    talk to the MAM via backplane LANs.. it needs to be clarified that
    this is not the case.
    
    The only confusing case is when you bring in the external connection
    through a repeater (which by default connects to the thinwire) and
    the NMS is connected to the repeater but the repeater is not wired
    to the bridge externally (assuming that this is a first-time setup).
    Then the NMS can't talk to the bridge which makes it hard for
    it to provide IP services.  The solution of course is to
    connect the repeater to the bridge externally (at least during setup),
    or to connect the NMS into the bridge.  The latter is good practice
    anyway because it's best to have IP services be provided by the closest
    possible hub module.. thus reducing the chances of losing management
    connectivity due to a module, or LAN path, in between going down.
    
    Anil