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Title:DEChub/HUBwatch/PROBEwatch CONFERENCE
Notice:Firmware -2, Doc -3, Power -4, HW kits -5, firm load -6&7
Moderator:NETCAD::COLELLADT
Created:Wed Nov 13 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4455
Total number of notes:16761

1591.0. "HUBwatch hang accessing HUB900" by KERNEL::EVANSN () Wed Oct 19 1994 13:41

Configuration:

4000-60
48MB
VMS 5.5-2
DNVEXT 
MCC V.13
UCX V3.1 EC04
HUBWATCH V3.1
HUB900 V3.0.0
DECREPEATER 900TM V1.0G

When accessing HUB900 with watch/agent=hub900 the hub outline appears, it shades 
grey where modules should be and the process loops forever.

When accessing DECREPEATER 900TM no problem is seen, if community is changed to 
HUB900 from menu the HUB900 is seen to be ok.

This problem is seen on multiple HUBS from this system and was seen in version 2 
HUBwatch also. The process quotas and sysgen parameters are as in release notes.

There is no problem with the same hub from another system running with V2.0 
of HUBwatch.

Regards

Neal Evans - UK CSC
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1591.1Account ??SOS6::PEYRACHEJean-Yves Peyrache Country Support Group FranceWed Oct 19 1994 14:437
   have you tried on differents accounts (system, field...) ??
   
   have you tried to re-install Hubwatch ??

   Any messages in Windows thats you have started Hubwatch ??
   Jean-Yves
1591.2AnswersYUPPY::SEDTU6::KORMANtgif!!Thu Oct 20 1994 07:2216
Yes, We've tried from different accounts, after checking account quotas.
All the accounts are set up to run DECmcc, and do so OK. 

In the DECterm windows from which we fire HUBwatch, we get the normal messages 
as far as SLOT 1 ONLINE (or UP, I forget), SLOT 8 ONLINE, but no futher
information as to status of each slot's ports.

We initially saw the problem with HW V2.?, so we upgraded to V3.0 - same problem
stilll there. I can post the exact text of the windwow messages tomorrow if
that would be useful.

(ps - I'm working on the customer site and logged the problem with the support
centre after two of us couldn't figure it out)

Dave
1591.3Of course HUBwatch works!SLINK::HOODI'd rather be at the PenobscotThu Oct 20 1994 14:1315
Well, then.  If you can do everything you said, then HUBwatch must work.
(What's the Latin phrase for that kind of proof?)

Absolutely every bit of info you can provide would be helpful.  Or contact
me directly and we'll try to work it through.

One interesting tidbit is that if it is printing out the slot info on the
DECterm, then SNMP traffic is flowing.  There is a magic trick we can do
to watch all the SNMP traffic generated or received by HUBwatch.  Maybe
that will help.

Call me for more details or some help.

Tom Hood
HUBwatch
1591.4La nuit porte conseille....SOS6::PEYRACHEJean-Yves Peyrache Country Support Group FranceThu Oct 20 1994 15:0510
  Just an others ideas,

  watch your process with another decterm when you are in loop
  to see , if really the process works or if wait for any reasons

  Put an analyzer on the wire ,to see if you have some kinds of exchange
  between your HUB and your NMS

  Jean-Yves
1591.5SLINK::HOODI'd rather be at the PenobscotThu Oct 20 1994 15:146
>  Put an analyzer on the wire ,to see if you have some kinds of exchange
>  between your HUB and your NMS

This can be done from HUBwatch itself through an unofficial feature.

Tom
1591.6It's a covert operationROGER::GAUDETBecause the Earth is 2/3 waterThu Oct 20 1994 15:306
.5>> This can be done from HUBwatch itself through an unofficial feature.

But since this feature is classified, if Tom tells you about it, he'll have to
kill you.  :-)

...Roger... if_that_is_my_real_name
1591.7SLINK::HOODI'd rather be at the PenobscotThu Oct 20 1994 16:153
>...Roger... if_that_is_my_real_name

	I know it's actually Annette.
1591.8Yes, it's in COM all the time - magic words neededYUPPY::SEDTU6::KORMANtgif!!Fri Oct 21 1994 07:2413
    
    The process is definitely in a COM loop - we already tried watching
    it from another DECterm and it does no IO, just clocks up CPU seconds
    in real time!
    
    Tom - can I phone you from outside DEC to get the secret incantation -
    whats your number?
    
    Thanks,
    
    Dave
    
    
1591.9Keep quiet , i'm in confidence....PADNOM::PEYRACHEJean-Yves Peyrache Country Support Group FranceFri Oct 21 1994 07:4610
    
      Re:6,7
    
     As i known this "incantation"(Keyboard+Mouse) trace only Snmp Traffic,
     some Others data on the wire should be interesting...
    
      Hep, Mister Hood , before Kill me . you must catch me....
    
      Jean-Yves
    
1591.10KERNEL::EVANSNMon Oct 24 1994 10:2315
Dictatyping message from Dave

Special incantation has revealed that SNMP traffic ceases after the HUB outline
is diplayed. Prior to that SNMP traffic reveals no errors and appears to be 
sensible, i.e. seems to get all status information.

Dave is on customer site at Reuters in London, the external number is:

+44 71 324 6357.

Dave will not be on site this afternoon but will be tomorrow.

Regards

Neal Evans
1591.11FYI - trace sentYUPPY::SEDTU6::KORMANtgif!!Thu Oct 27 1994 07:475
    
    I've sent the results of the trace to TOM via mail...
    
    
    Dave
1591.12Did the trace arrive?YUPPY::SEDTU6::KORMANtgif!!Mon Nov 07 1994 13:357
    
    Tom - 
    
    Did  you get the trace? Any ideas?
    
    
    Dave