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Title:DEChub/HUBwatch/PROBEwatch CONFERENCE
Notice:Firmware -2, Doc -3, Power -4, HW kits -5, firm load -6&7
Moderator:NETCAD::COLELLADT
Created:Wed Nov 13 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4455
Total number of notes:16761

1226.0. "F/O budget for DR90FA ?" by BIS5::RUTTENS () Thu Jul 14 1994 10:51

    Does anyone know what the F/O power budget is for the DECrepeater 90 FA.
    The customer wants to know ths before he places any order. 
    I told him that the product is compliant with 10baseFL/FOIRL but this
    seems not tobe enough for him.
    
    
    Thks........P
    
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1226.1Installation and Config. Manual has itKALI::FORSBERGNIPG, Hub Products GroupMon Jul 18 1994 19:598
    This information should be in the product's Installation and
    Configuration Manual.  Can you obtain a copy of it?
    
    I understand that the power budget for the 90FA is the same as that
    for the 90FS.  I have the manual for the latter and can type in the
    information if you can't get it any other way.
    
    Erik
1226.2I'm interested too!VAXRIO::ROLFVaporware Design SpecialistWed Jul 27 1994 11:527
    Erik,
    
    if you could kindly type in the data, I would also be interested!
    
    Thanks
    
    Rolf
1226.3BIS5::RUTTENSMon Aug 01 1994 11:334
    the only thing I have is the owners manual.
    I can't find any information in this.
    
    P.
1226.4Light loss discussionKALI::FORSBERGNIPG, Hub Products GroupWed Aug 10 1994 15:1392
    Following is a discussion of light loss budget for our fiber-optic
    devices.  For further details, please consult Doug Belli of NIPG
    (kali::DBelli).
    
                        +---------------------------+
                        |  Fiber Optic Loss Budget  |
                        +---------------------------+



The following figures represent the calculated loss budget for fiber optic 
segments used to interconnect the following devices:

     DECRepeater 90FA  (DEFAR)
     DECRepeater 90FL  (DEFMR)
     DECBridge   90FL  (DEWGF)
     DECrepeater 90FS  (DEFMI)
     DECrepeater 900FP (DEFMM)

These figures account for the connectors at either end of the segment.  
Furthermore, these figures are calculated using the transmit and receive 
optical power levels of the above equipment.  When connecting to or from 
different devices, the transmit and receive optical power levels of the 
other devices must be taken into account.



     10-Base FL Worst-case Loss Budget (0 to 50 degrees C, end of life) 
     ------------------------------------------------------------------

Multimode, Graded 
Index Fiber Size       (um)    50/125  50/125  50/125  62.5/125  85/125  100/140

Numerical Aperture 
(NA)                    -       0.20    0.21    0.22    0.275    0.26    0.30

Minimum Average 
Transmit Power         (dBm)   -22.8   -23.3   -22.9   -19.0    -16.8   -13.5

Minimum Average 
Receive Sensitivity    (dBm)   -32.5   -32.5   -32.5   -32.5    -32.5   -32.5

10-BaseFL Loss Budget
(Pt,avg - Pr,avg)      (dB)      9.7     9.2     9.6    13.5     15.7    19.0



     FOIRL Compatibility
     -------------------

The older 802.3 FOIRL standard specified a -27.0 dBm minimum PEAK receive
power (Pr, avg = -30.0 dBm).  This power level represents a 2.5 dB lower
receiver sensitivity.  The worst-case loss budget for FOIRL compatibility
purposes should include this decrease in receiver sensitivity and is given 
below.



     FOIRL Worst-case Loss Budget (0 to 50 degrees C, End of Life)
     -------------------------------------------------------------

Minimum Peak
Transmit Power         (dBm)   -19.8   -20.3   -19.9   -16.0    -13.8   -10.5

Minimum Peak 
Received Power         (dBm)   -27.0   -27.0   -27.0   -27.0    -27.0   -27.0

FOIRL Loss Budget      (dB)      7.2     6.7     7.1     11.0    13.2    16.5



The older 802.3 FOIRL standard specified a maximum -9.0 dBm PEAK receive 
power, Pr,peak (Max Pr,avg = -12 dBm), and a maximum -10 dBm PEAK launch 
power, Pt,peak (Max Pt,avg = -13dBm).  When calculating the loss budget for 
FOIRL devices, a concern is that the higher output from the DEFAR, DEFMR, 
and DEWGF, in conjunction with the increased launch power into the two 
largest fiber sizes (85/125, and 100/140), does not overload FOIRL 
receivers.  The worst case numbers for FOIRL devices should therefore 
include the maximum launch power figures, which are given below.



     Best Case Maximum (Peak) Launch Power (0 to 50 deg. C, )
     --------------------------------------------------------

Maximum Peak
Transmit Power         (dBm)   -12.8   -13.3   -12.9    -9.0     -6.8*   -3.5*



*  Additional attenuation is required when connecting the above devices via 
   short lengths of 85/125 micron and 100/140 micron fiber optic cable.
1226.5DEFLM optical budget?VAXRIO::ROLFVaporware Design SpecialistFri Aug 12 1994 16:175
    What about the DEFLM? 
    
    Same as the devices mentioned?
    
    Rolf
1226.6I _think_ soKALI::FORSBERGNIPG, Hub Products GroupWed Aug 17 1994 13:534
    If the DEFLM is our little fiber optic MAU, yes, I believe that the
    same numbers apply.  I'm not absolutely sure on this; Doug Belli can
    provide more information.