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Title:DEChub/HUBwatch/PROBEwatch CONFERENCE
Notice:Firmware -2, Doc -3, Power -4, HW kits -5, firm load -6&7
Moderator:NETCAD::COLELLADT
Created:Wed Nov 13 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4455
Total number of notes:16761

1037.0. "V3 and Alarming ...." by PADNOM::PEYRACHE (Jean-Yves Peyrache Country Support Group France) Fri May 27 1994 11:06

  hi,


 i have played with alarming option under V3 of Hubwatch, and i have somes
questions/details regarding this implementation.


  first of all my configuration is a Dechub90 8 slot fully populated with
6  repeaters 90T and 1 decserver90TL (Nas V1.3) and Decagent90 V2.1.3

  applying a Power off/on on decserver90tl or on Decagent90 works as expected

   in Hubwatch Alarm Viewer windows a message appears :


     FRI MAY 27 11:11:37
     SNMP TRAP:cold start from 1.1.1.1        ===>ip address of my Decagent or  
     enterprise:[1.3.6.1.4.1.36.2.15.10.1.1]                Decserver90tl
     specific :[0]  


 Now i have trying to play  repeaters90T:
    
       _ disable an enable a port
       _ de-insert/insert a repeater90 in my hub      
       _  replace a Decrepeater90T by a Decrepeater90C

  Ok message appears on the Alarm windows but no right decoded !!!
   below a Display of cold start of Decrepeater90C

   FRI MAY 27 11:10:08
   SNMP TRAP : vendor specific from 1.1.1.1.
   enterprise:[1.3.6.4.36.2.15.10.1.1]
   specific:[4]
   varbind 1:1.3.6.1.4.36.2.18.10.2.4.1.1=1
   varbind 2:1.3.6.1.4.36.2.18.10.1.5.1.1=5                                     
   varbind 3:1.3.6.1.4.36.2.18.10.1.5.1.17=1.3.6.4.1.36.2.15.9.1.1

  if want to know this event , i must edit the Dechub90.mib and walk on it
  to decode all value...
   it'snt really easy for customer , i think........

   any comments/ideas will be welcomed

   thanks

   Jean-Yves
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1037.1Nope, it isn't easy.....yet.QUIVER::GALLAGHERFri May 27 1994 13:4625
Jean-Yves,

You're seeing an "enterprise specific populationChange" trap.  This, and
other enterprise specific traps, are defined in the dechub90's private
MIB.

The TRAP-TYPE definition is:

>populationChange TRAP-TYPE
>    ENTERPRISE  decagent90v1
>    VARIABLES   { da90CommunityIndex, dh90SlotIndex, dh90SlotObjectID }
>    DESCRIPTION
>        "A module has been added or discovered, or has been deleted or
>        undiscovered.  The objects dh90PopulationChange and
>        dh90PopulationLastChange have been updated to reflect this change.
>        The community index, slot index, and module object id are included in
>        the trap PDU."
>    ::= 4


Yes, you have to look at the TRAP-TYPE definition to understand what the
trap means.  And no, this is not "customer friendly".   I suspect future
versions of HubWatch will have more extensive decoding of enterprise 
specific traps.
						-Shawn
1037.2Suspect or morePADNOM::PEYRACHEJean-Yves Peyrache Country Support Group FranceFri May 27 1994 15:1611
>>Yes, you have to look at the TRAP-TYPE definition to understand what the
>>trap means.  And no, this is not "customer friendly".   I suspect future
>>versions of HubWatch will have more extensive decoding of enterprise 
>>specific traps.

  First thanks to reply,
  you suspect only ???
  i think it's a major feature ,that will be implemented right now !!!
  (like other hub vendors).

   Jean-Yves
1037.3agreeZUR01::SCHNEIDERRFri Jun 10 1994 06:0017
>  you suspect only ???
>  i think it's a major feature ,that will be implemented right now !!!
>  (like other hub vendors).
>
>   Jean-Yves



I agree comleatrly with Jean-Yves. I had no time to play arround with Alarming. 
But this means at the moment not to tell any customer about this feature 
because the risk they try it out :-)

Question: Who of our customer would accept such an implementation? Are all the 
traps undecoded????


Roland
1037.4If we could do it all right now we would.NACAD::GALLAGHERFri Jun 10 1994 14:3014
>I agree comleatrly with Jean-Yves. I had no time to play arround with Alarming. 
>But this means at the moment not to tell any customer about this feature 
>because the risk they try it out :-)
>

Perhaps you should try it.  By knowing something about it you can better
decide whether it's a feature that you can or can't tell customers about.

>Question: Who of our customer would accept such an implementation? Are all the 
>traps undecoded????

No, only enterprise specific traps are undecoded.  Standard traps are decoded.

						-Shawn
1037.5Need MORE INFO about ALARMS and TRAPS in V3MSDOA::REEDJohn Reed @CBO, DTN:367-6463, KB4FFE, SouthEastFri Sep 02 1994 16:5459
    
    
    I have a question about Hubwatch Trap Events.  I recently installed
    HUBwatch at a customer site, (VAX 4000/90, HUBwatch for VMS (v3),
    several DEChub90's) and the tool installed nicely.  I upgraded the
    DECagent 90 to the new DENMA021 Agent code which was very difficult.
    
    I tried NDU, (which didn't support the DECagent v1.0 firmware) and NCP
    trigger and load commands, but they didn't work.  I had to get my old
    DENMA_LOAD.EXE program from the DENMA011.A kit, and use the control-I
    trick to force the agent to request DENMA011.SYS from the load host.  I
    renamed DENMA021.SYS as 011, and the new V2.1.3 code was loaded.  The
    DCF010 kit did not contain a DENMA.EXE that requested v021 of DENMA
    code.  THIS SHOULD BE PART OF THE CONSOLIDATED KIT !!
    
    (Back to my question)  After I got the Hubwatch for VMS V3 (from most
    recent CD distribution) running, I loaded the IP addresses into the
    modules and various agens, and assigned trap addresses and communities.
    I opened the ALARMS viewer window, and we tried inserting and removing 
    modules, and powering off PC's and stations on the various HUB ports.  
    I received ALARM events in the VIEWER window, but only the Cold Start,
    and Generic traps were defined (translated into english).  The Module
    or "enterprise specific" traps were passed in their lengthy format
    1.4.1.15.1.4.3.5.x.y.z = 7 with the word "varbind" occasionally stuck in 
    there to confuse the user.
    
    IS there some way to compile these long numeric SNMP trap events into
    their english equivalent.  It sure would be nice to see text that said:
    "Agent DECagent3 reported Slot 4, Port 7: Link Down" or something like
    that.   The customer also asked for ways to show ALARMS that only have
    a certain level of importance.  He was annoyed that each time I powered
    up or powered down a PC, he would receive a TRAP message.  This trap
    message was VERY SIMILAR in appearance to the trap message that
    occurred when I pulled a repeater completed out of the HUB.  He wanted
    to be flagged in a MORE URGENT way, when a monumental thing such as
    removing a module occured.   He also wanted to see a message when I
    unplugged the DECagent itself (impossible I know, since the DECagent
    sends the message) but the POLLER should report "In an obvious way, in
    the same ALARM Viewer window" when the device can no longer be polled.
    
    I looked around in the Alarms SETUP, but I got a screen that displayed
    the file HUBWATCH$LIBRARY:hubwatch_alarmed_Agents.dat, but the file
    itself did not exist.  Nor did I find a template for this file.  I do
    not know how to create it.   There were pushbuttons for TRAPS, and
    SELECT but I don't know what they do.   If I push them, nothing seems
    to occur, and If I open the window after defining several modules and
    hitting "apply", or "OK", still the window opens without any data...
    
    How do I define permanent pollers, and what is the format of this file?
    
    I told the customer that I would get back to him soon on these issues. 
    Who should I contact to follow up on this ?
    
    Thanks;
    
    JR
    
    
    
1037.6LEVERS::SKABOExpect Nothing: You'll never be disappointedFri Sep 02 1994 19:0536
Hello John,

	From the HUBwatch V3.0 Release Notes to ensure that the POLLER/VIEWER
is displaing TRAPPS :

            o  The procedure for starting and stopping the Alarms Poller
                should include the following notes:


                     1. With the exception of DECserver 90M, 90TL,
                        and 900TM modules, there is no need to
                        manually set up trap addresses in the
                        various hub network modules. The terminal
                        server modules do not allow the setting
                        of the trap address by means of SNMP; you
                        must enable traps from the terminal server
                        console.

                        For all other network modules, the Alarms
                        Poller uses both the information from the
                        Alarmed Agents list box in the Alarms Setup
                        window, and the IP address of the network
                        management station to automatically set the
                        trap addresses.

                     2. To restart the Alarms Poller after it has
                        been stopped, you must open the HUBwatch
                        Alarms Setup Window. (This causes the
                        HUBwatch alarmed agents file to be read,
                        and the agents in the file to be registered
                        with the Event Daemon.)

	Hope this helps so TRAPPS are started....

	Tom Skabo - DEChub System Test
    
1037.7Where is ALARMED data file ?MSDOA::REEDJohn Reed @CBO, DTN:367-6463, KB4FFE, SouthEastFri Sep 02 1994 20:206
    Where is the Hubwatch ALARMED agents file, and what format is it
    written in?   I could not seem to find this file in the
    HUBWATCH$LIBRARY location.
    
    JR
    
1037.8HUBWATCH$ALARM_FILES locationNACAD::SKABOExpect Nothing U never disappointedTue Sep 06 1994 14:1545
    Hello John,
    
    	When you did the installation of HUBwatch the question below was
    asked:
    
    * System-wide translation for HUBWATCH$LIBRARY: [SYS$LOGIN]:
    
      The logical name HUBWATCH$ALARM_FILES may be defined as the directory
      which will be used for writing HUBwatch event polling and alarm
      logfiles.
    
      SYS$STARTUP:HUBWATCH$STARTUP.COM will define the system-wide logical
      name HUBWATCH$ALARM_FILES as SYS$MANAGER.  To assign a different
      system-wide translation for HUBWATCH$ALARM_FILES enter it below.
      You may also edit SYS$STARTUP:HUBWATCH$STARTUP.COM at a later time.
    
    If you took the default it would be put into SYS$LOGIN, and then when
    you added TRAPs to the ALRAM SETUP window, it will create a file
    called: HUBWATCH_ALARMED_AGENTS.DAT <-- which is a data file, see below
    for an example of the file:
    
    HUBWATCH_ALARMED_AGENTS.DAT
    
    #
    #  HUBwatch alarmed agents file.
    #  Created Fri Sep  2 11:35:10 1994
    #
    HUB_ID     :     the-hub
            IP                     : 16.20.128.188
            COMMUNITY              : "public"
            POLLING_INTERVAL       : 20
            NOTIFY_CONFIG_CHANGES  : TRUE
            NOTIFY_TRAPS           : TRUE
    #
    HUB_ID     :     dettm...
            IP                     : 16.20.128.195
            COMMUNITY              : "public"
            POLLING_INTERVAL       : 20
            NOTIFY_CONFIG_CHANGES  : TRUE
            NOTIFY_TRAPS           : TRUE
    #
    
    	Hope this helps....
    
    Tom Skabo - DEChub System Test