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Conference netcad::hub_mgnt

Title:DEChub/HUBwatch/PROBEwatch CONFERENCE
Notice:Firmware -2, Doc -3, Power -4, HW kits -5, firm load -6&7
Moderator:NETCAD::COLELLADT
Created:Wed Nov 13 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4455
Total number of notes:16761

866.0. "Is HUBwatch needed?" by HGRNCC::FARADAYCHONG (Faraday Chong@hgo 852-8053590) Mon Mar 28 1994 11:46

    Questions on DEChub 900 installation/configuration:
    
    (1) A DEChub 900MS with only one DECconcentrator 900MX. The front panel
    FDDI A/B ports will be used for dual FDDI ring connection.
    
    (2) A DEChub 900MS with 2 x DECbridge 900MX and 2 x DECrepeater 900TM.
    A FDDI dual ring is formed by 2 x DECbridge 900MX via front panel A/B
    ports, or front-A back-B back-A front-B ports. One Ethernet on ThinWire
    or a flexible channel is formed from all four modules.
    
    Is HUBwatch needed to at all install/configure the above environments?
    
    We will ask the customer to buy HUBwatch for other reasons, we want to
    know whether it is needed during setup/configuration.
    
    Faraday
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866.1HUBwatch not needed, BUT...SLINK::HOODI'd rather be surfingMon Mar 28 1994 13:5023
There are two answers to your question:

(1) No, you do not *need* HUBwatch to configure or manage anything in a DEChub, 
    or to config or manage any DEChub module.  Everything is SNMP-manageable,
    and if you have a good SNMP tool, you can do it all without HUBwatch.  All
    the MIBs are publicly available.

(2) Yes, you need HUBwatch.  Managing the concentrator, bridge, backplane, et
    al, is an awful lot easier if you use the SNMP tool that was developed
    specifically to do that job.  With HUBwatch, you do not need to understand
    the nuances of the MIBs.  You do not need to know about side effects.  You
    don't have to try to guess which variables (groups of variables) do what
    you want.  You just do the configuration with a tool that's orders of
    magnitude easier to use than a generic SNMP browser.  

With your configuration, backplane management and port ligo types (to
allow A in front and B in back) is enough of a headache that just using 
the MIBs alone would be painful.  With HUBwatch, your customer can get that
configuration up within a day.  Without it, they'd spend a lot of manpower
reading through MIBs and playing around trying to get what they want.

Tom Hood
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866.2Do not sell a HUB without HUBwatchZUR01::SCHNEIDERRMon Mar 28 1994 13:5113
For any configuration on the DEChub, you need HUBwatch. It is not recomended to 
do configurations direct via a MIB-browser.

We told to our sales "Do not sell HUB900 without HUBwatch!!!!!!"

On the HUB itself, you have only a configuration port, to setup the SNMP agent 
(address, community, .....). All configuration, like backplane channels 
creation, you have to do over HUBwatch.
You can run the HUB without HUBwatch because all modules are by default 
connected to the THINWIRE channel. Except FDDI channels of course.


Roland
866.3UFP::LARUEJeff LaRue: U.S. Network Resource CenterThu Apr 14 1994 18:0610
    
    ...but be aware that the current version of Hubwatch does not support
    the configuration of the 900MX concentrator.  Also both the hub and
    the currently shipping 900MXs will need a firmware update inorder to
    support the configuring of the backplane A & B ports of the 900MX.
    
    This will be available in hte May '94 timeframe...according to the
    letter that is shipping with the 900MXs.
    
    -Jeff